subject:"\[Texascavers\] Cavers"

[Texascavers] Cavers find pristine mineshaft frozen in time for 200 years

2022-07-13 Thread Miles Abernathy

News from the UK:
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2022/jul/12/cavers-discover-mineshaft-alderley-edge-time-capsule

A pristine 200-year-old mineshaft that had been undisturbed since it was
> abandoned by miners during the Napoleonic wars has been discovered by
> cavers in Cheshire, revealing an almost unique “time capsule” of their
> underground life.
> The cobalt mine, at Alderley Edge
> ,
> was sealed by the miners when the shaft was abandoned, at a date that can
> be pinpointed fairly accurately thanks to one man who used candle soot to
> write his initials “WS” and the date 20 August 1810 on the rock wall


Miles Abernathy
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[Texascavers] Cavers lead cable car rescue in Italy

2021-05-23 Thread Lee H. Skinner


National Alpine Speleological Rescue Corps is leading the rescue operation


https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/23/europe/italy-cable-car-accident-intl


Le

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[Texascavers] Cavers (resend)

2021-05-02 Thread Dwight Deal

>From your fat-fingered caving friend.  This is resend Lee, because I tried to 
>answer from Mary’s new fart fone, apparently without success.



Two votes, one from Dwight and one from Mary. We both agree that if we want to 
be serious and not frivolous about a plural noun for cavers, that A Crawl of 
Cavers images us in both a low dark place and a post-cave environment. It could 
even have meaning for non-cavers.



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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers

2021-04-23 Thread Jerry

 I think it depends on the group. 

A group of expedition cavers would likely be a column of cavers as they have a 
purpose and a mission, well regimented and disciplined. Marching off into the 
unknown karst for fame and fortune. 

A group of recreational cavers would more likely be a giggle of cavers as 
they're out to have fun and see what they will see, looking forward to their 
apres caving party and drink. Marching off to have a laid back adventure. 

A group of spelunking cavers (boy scouts and other non-grotto affiliated 
spelunkers) would more likely be a clunk of cavers as they may leave trash and 
other mementos of their adventures. These folks have no idea what they're 
marching off to. 

Jerry.
 
-Original Message-
From: John Brooks 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers ; Sandia Grotto 

Sent: Fri, Apr 23, 2021 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers

Karsty’s


On Apr 23, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Lee H. Skinner  wrote:
 
What do you call a collection of cavers?  There are gaggles of geese, pods of 
whales and murders of crows. What term would do justice to the special nature 
of cavers?   I once suggested a column of cavers, as cave teams usually go 
single-file when traversing (especially well protected) cave passages.  Does 
anyone have a better idea?
 Lee Skinner
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers

2021-04-23 Thread Barb

A stink of cavers.


Barb Coons

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2021, at 6:55 PM, Jerry  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it depends on the group. 
> 
> A group of expedition cavers would likely be a column of cavers as they have 
> a purpose and a mission, well regimented and disciplined. Marching off into 
> the unknown karst for fame and fortune. 
> 
> A group of recreational cavers would more likely be a giggle of cavers as 
> they're out to have fun and see what they will see, looking forward to their 
> apres caving party and drink. Marching off to have a laid back adventure. 
> 
> A group of spelunking cavers (boy scouts and other non-grotto affiliated 
> spelunkers) would more likely be a clunk of cavers as they may leave trash 
> and other mementos of their adventures. These folks have no idea what they're 
> marching off to. 
> 
> Jerry.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Brooks 
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Cc: SWR >> New Mexico Cavers ; Sandia Grotto 
> 
> Sent: Fri, Apr 23, 2021 5:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers
> 
> Karsty’s
> 
> 
>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Lee H. Skinner  wrote:
>> 
> 
> What do you call a collection of cavers?  There are gaggles of geese, pods of 
> whales and murders of crows. What term would do justice to the special nature 
> of cavers?   I once suggested a column of cavers, as cave teams usually go 
> single-file when traversing (especially well protected) cave passages.  Does 
> anyone have a better idea?
> 
> Lee Skinner
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers

2021-04-23 Thread Katherine Arens

for speleopoliticians and project cavers:  a breakdown of cavers

On Apr 23, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Lee H. Skinner 
mailto:skin...@thuntek.net>> wrote:


What do you call a collection of cavers?  There are gaggles of geese, pods of 
whales and murders of crows. What term would do justice to the special nature 
of cavers?   I once suggested a column of cavers, as cave teams usually go 
single-file when traversing (especially well protected) cave passages.  Does 
anyone have a better idea?


Lee Skinner

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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers

2021-04-23 Thread John Brooks

Karsty’s


> On Apr 23, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Lee H. Skinner  wrote:
> 
> What do you call a collection of cavers?  There are gaggles of geese, pods of 
> whales and murders of crows. What term would do justice to the special nature 
> of cavers?   I once suggested a column of cavers, as cave teams usually go 
> single-file when traversing (especially well protected) cave passages.  Does 
> anyone have a better idea?
> 
> 
> 
> Lee Skinner
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[Texascavers] Cavers

2021-04-23 Thread Lee H. Skinner

What do you call a collection of cavers?  There are gaggles of geese, 
pods of whales and murders of crows. What term would do justice to the 
special nature of cavers?   I once suggested a *column of cavers*, as 
cave teams usually go single-file when traversing (especially well 
protected) cave passages.  Does anyone have a better idea?



Lee Skinner

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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers’ Storytelling Contest

2019-10-03 Thread Charles Loving

Besides I can't stay up past ten PM.

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:56 PM Charles Loving  wrote:

> Can't make it have a wake to attend.
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:51 PM Bill Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> The DFW Grotto is happy to once again conduct a Caver Storytelling
>> Contest at TCR. Last year it was a big hit. Five minute limit. A panel
>> of impartial judges. Only one entry per caver. We’ll begin at midnight
>> Friday night after the Gary Franklin Band finishes their set. Entries will
>> be videoed and posted on Facebook with approval.
>>
>> Think of your best caving story and practice it.
>>
>> Maybe you’ll win the contest and get your TCR registration fee refunded
>> to you as your prize.
>>
>>
>> Bill Steele
>>
>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>
>> Irving, Texas
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers’ Storytelling Contest

2019-10-03 Thread Charles Loving

Can't make it have a wake to attend.

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:51 PM Bill Steele  wrote:

> The DFW Grotto is happy to once again conduct a Caver Storytelling Contest
> at TCR. Last year it was a big hit. Five minute limit. A panel of
> impartial judges. Only one entry per caver. We’ll begin at midnight Friday
> night after the Gary Franklin Band finishes their set. Entries will be
> videoed and posted on Facebook with approval.
>
> Think of your best caving story and practice it.
>
> Maybe you’ll win the contest and get your TCR registration fee refunded to
> you as your prize.
>
>
> Bill Steele
>
> speleoste...@aol.com
>
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[Texascavers] Cavers’ Storytelling Contest

2019-10-03 Thread Bill Steele

The DFW Grotto is happy to once again conduct a Caver Storytelling Contest at 
TCR. Last year it was a big hit. Five minute limit. A panel of impartial 
judges. Only one entry per caver. We’ll begin at midnight Friday night after 
the Gary Franklin Band finishes their set. Entries will be videoed and posted 
on Facebook with approval. 
Think of your best caving story and practice it. 
Maybe you’ll win the contest and get your TCR registration fee refunded to you 
as your prize.

Bill Steele 
speleoste...@aol.com
Irving, Texas

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[Texascavers] cavers helping cavers

2019-03-30 Thread David

I would like to thank Mr. Fuzzy McG ( of the Wellington Caving Group
WCG ? ) for turning me on to the guitar music of Justin Johnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_6-6reMDRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-8jMFvP9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96XHr6E3awM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrQSTdvspNM

Sometimes we need someone to help show us that the world has not
totally all gone to H*ll - that there are still isolated remote pockets of
humanity and culture hidden in secret places, and that maybe there
might maybe possibly still be hope for the species homo sapien.

It all sounds even better while downing a cold bottle of Fentiman's Ginger
Beer.
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers socializing - Houston Style

2018-06-03 Thread Mike Flannigan



"You just can't advise hard-headed people that
are set in their ways."

You sure got that one right :-)



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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers in the News

2018-04-29 Thread Scott Boyd

He might have gone to a grotto meeting near you at one time. Bill is a
member of the DFW Grotto and a former member of the now-defunct Maverick
Grotto in Ft. Worth where I had met him back in about 2002(?). You may have
also seen him at one of the TSA Spring Conventions or an NSS convention.

Scott Boyd
(retired caver, but still lurking on Texascavers)
scottd...@gmail.com

On Sun, Apr 29, 2018, 1:05 AM David  wrote:

>
> https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2018/04/26/real-life-spider-man-new-species-of-tarantula-named-after-eagle-scout-speleologist-bill-steele/
>
> I have seen that guy somewhere.He looks familiar. Wasn't he that
> guy that came to a grotto meeting one time ?
>
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[Texascavers] Cavers in the News

2018-04-29 Thread David

https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2018/04/26/real-life-spider-man-new-species-of-tarantula-named-after-eagle-scout-speleologist-bill-steele/

I have seen that guy somewhere.He looks familiar. Wasn't he that
guy that came to a grotto meeting one time ?
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[Texascavers] cavers and caves in the news

2018-04-27 Thread David

Who would have thought it ? Cavers and caves near Carlsbad ??


You can even purchase online a picture of a real caver from there on
various media from coffee cups to posters
ranging in price for just $ 12.95 to $ 55.  plus shipping.

   http://currentargus.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge_remote.asp?

That is the coolest thing ever.  What could be a more rare speleo-item
for a gift ?


Ref:

https://www.currentargus.com/story/entertainment/2018/04/26/cave-photographers-around-world-meet-carlsbad/551963002/
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[Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2018-02-02 Thread David

One of the unique things about cavers is how they sometimes help each other.

Yesterday, I visited some old-timer Houston cavers and they fed me a
delicious hand-made sandwich and a glass of cold tea.

Their house flooded with muddy yuck six months ago, and they are still
living in poor condition.

While I was there, the guy gutting their house and remodeling was a caver
in the late 70's in San Marcos and in the early 80's with GHG.   I recalled
meeting him once at Jim McLane's funeral.   But my memory was not good
enough to remember any other encounters.  Apparently many of you are
Facebook friends with him.

My Sequoia broke down again, and some cavers helped me.  It is getting a
new starter in a repair shop in Brenham.

I had to hitch-hike back to Houston.

I can vouch that hitch-hiking in 2018 is nothing like the nostalgic era of
1983 and 1984, when I did that frequently from College Station to other
destinations.I can state now as a fact that hitch-hiking is no longer
an option for travel in southeast Texas.  I got picked up by some
Protestant fundamentalist proseltyzers who tortured my last remaining
brain-cell for an hour - alleging adamantly that The Universe was only
8,000 years old.  Fortunately, I am now nearly deaf, and missed most of the
part about The Great English Speaking Serpent.

David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers

2018-02-01 Thread Mixon Bill

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[Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2018-02-01 Thread David

There is a caver who allegedly fell down the stairs a few days ago and
broke their arm pretty bad.

She has a gofundme page.

I wont embarass her here by naming her, but since she needs help, I will
drop a hint.

She has been very active in the NSS Arts Salon for many years.

If you want to help her and can't find her page, just ask around.

I am not in a position to help anybody at the moment and have my own
gofundme page, to support my charity service providing charity subpoenas
for indigents on trial.
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[Texascavers] Cavers in Bertram ?

2018-01-09 Thread David via Texascavers

>From David Locklear

I am brainstorming a road-trip from Houston to Bertram and back.   Sometime
in the next 4 days.

Probably leaving from Brenham and going thru Georgetown

dlocklea...@gmail.com
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[Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2017-11-09 Thread David via Texascavers

>From David Locklear

Numerous cavers helped me by looking at my experimental website and now I
have my first proto-type.

I finally have a basic grasp of how SQUARESPACE works and how ro make a
web-page by yourself.   You need a good computer and a very fast internet
connection.

David Locklear


Please email me privately for more web-page related suggestions

www.alr-subpoena.com

You have to click on VISITOR and enter their 5 letter code.

I hope to pay the annual fee soon and tweak it some more.   But unless I
get a new paying customer the effort won't matter.

Supposedly there is a code to get a discount, but I did not see where to
use it or how to get the discount.
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Re: [Texascavers] CAVERS

2017-08-03 Thread Jerry via Texascavers

--- Begin Message ---
Thanks, OMW !

Jerry.
 

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Subject: [Texascavers] CAVERS







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Re: [Texascavers] CAVERS

2017-08-03 Thread Nancy Weaver via Texascavers

eek.
nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] CAVERS

2017-08-03 Thread James Jasek via Texascavers

Excellent cartoons

Jim

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Re: [Texascavers] cavers in the news

2017-07-12 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers

That article claims that Meghalaya "harbours some of the longest and deepest 
cave systems in the world." Rather overstated in my opinion, since a check of 
Bob Gulden's World Long Cave list  puts the 
longest cave in India at no. 99 in the world and the second longest at no. 179. 
There are no Indian caves among the 242 in the World Deep list 
.


Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net


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To: CaveTex
Cc: dlocklea...@gmail.com
Cavers in the news:


http://indianewengland.com/2017/07/italian-speleologist-set-explore-meghalayas-caves/
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[Texascavers] cavers in the news

2017-07-12 Thread David via Texascavers

Cavers in the news:

http://indianewengland.com/2017/07/italian-speleologist-set-explore-meghalayas-caves/
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[Texascavers] cavers passing away - more obituaries

2016-10-18 Thread David via Texascavers

This past weekend, we bid our farewells to 3 former friends and caving
colleagues.

I was thinking that statistically, there were probably more than 3 that
left us in the
past year, but it would be very difficult to find that info.

So I did some basic Google searches.Below is a list of the first 6 that
popped up
( There were others )"The first one is a Texan.


1 )Glen Dale Gressett, 82
of Seminole, Texas
born: 12-18-33
died:  01-19-16

a pilot who loved flying, scuba diving, cave exploring, gold
mining, arrowhead hunting, and all water sports


2 )David Spencer Martin
born:  8-01-1950
died:  8-12-16

age 66, a resident of Wheaton, IL
He was a life time member of the National Speleological Society

3 )Katie Jane McClanahan Musch, 83
Alamagordo, NM

born:  2-12-33, Okra, Texas
died:  8-9-16

 Earlier in her life she was active in the study of crystals and
minerals and cave exploring

4 )Claron Dale Bjork
born:7-30-39, Murray, Utah
died: 7-5-16

   He enjoyed cave exploring and became a river rafting guide.  His
favorite subject in school was
   science, especially biology, and he went on to earn various degrees
in microbiology, aquatic biology,
   and a Ph.D. in entomology.

5 )Michael Hall
born:11-16-83 ( Portland, Oregon )
died: 7-21-16 ( Yelm, Washington car accident )

Lived near Olympia, Washington.   He loved cave exploring

6 )Kenneth Lynn “Kenny” Chandler

died: 5-18-16, in Woodville, Alababma
He was 58.

He loved cave exploring, but his favorite hobby was riding his
mountain bike
for miles through Kennamer Cove.


David Locklear
NSS # 27639
sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it needs to be reported somehow.
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Re: [Texascavers] cavers in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Nigel via Texascavers

Dave - Those are Talus caves.
Talus Cave Community Guide - New York Natural Heritage Program
http://www.acris.nynhp.org/guide.php?id=9948

www.necaveconservancy.org/about.php

Ice Cave Talus Community Guide - New York Natural Heritage Program
www.acris.nynhp.org/guide.php?id=9964

The western edge, Watertown, has the Black River caves. Closed to due bats, other issues, but I know a couple of folks from the Cornell Grotto who were mapping them in the late 1970's. One member did her part of her geology Master's on the Black River Caves.
Search on: new york black river caves
http://www.nnyliving.com/index.php/2012/11/26/shining-some-light-underground/

Caverns in the Adirondacks | USA Today
traveltips.usatoday.com › US Travel › US Travel Attractions & Tips › Adirondacks
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/caverns-adirondacks-62936.html

Nigel
>  I visited Eagle Cave in July this year. Who knew there were caves in the
> Adirondacks?! There is no limestone in sight, but a few caves similar to
> Enchanted Rock do exist.
>
> Mark Minton
> mmin...@caver.net
>
> On Wed, September 28, 2016 3:40 am, David via Texascavers wrote:
>> a news story from the Adirondacks
>>
>> On Sept. 21 at 12:23 p.m.
>>
>> DEC Ray Brook Dispatch received a call from a man reporting that his
>> caving partner sustained a head injury while caving in Eagle Cave on
>> Chimney Mountain.

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Re: [Texascavers] cavers in the news

2016-09-28 Thread Mark Minton via Texascavers

  I visited Eagle Cave in July this year. Who knew there were caves in the
Adirondacks?! There is no limestone in sight, but a few caves similar to
Enchanted Rock do exist.

Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On Wed, September 28, 2016 3:40 am, David via Texascavers wrote:
> a news story from the Adirondacks
>
> On Sept. 21 at 12:23 p.m.
>
> DEC Ray Brook Dispatch received a call from a man reporting that his
> caving partner sustained a head injury while caving in Eagle Cave on
> Chimney Mountain.

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[Texascavers] cavers in the news

2016-09-28 Thread David via Texascavers

a news story from the Adirondacks


On Sept. 21 at 12:23 p.m.

DEC Ray Brook Dispatch received a call from a man reporting that his caving
partner sustained a head injury while caving in Eagle Cave on Chimney
Mountain.

Eight DEC Forest Rangers responded to Chimney Mountain to retrieve the
injured 24-year-old man from Waterville, NY.  New York State Police
Aviation and two Advanced Life Support (ALS) medics also responded from
Lake Clear to a staged location in Indian Lake.  The team rescued the man
from the cave using technical rope system operations.  Once removed from
the cave, Forest Rangers and ALS medics evaluated the man and carried him
out via litter to the NYSP Aviation pick up point.  From there, the
helicopter flew him to the University of Vermont Medical Hospital in
Burlington, VT.

The incident concluded at 8:02 p.m.

Ref:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Siamese+Ponds/@43.5849058,-74.2414092,11z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x6814ae93312d63e9!8m2!3d43.5849058!4d-74.2414092

DEC = Dept. of Environmental Conservation

https://mikekelseyadventures.wordpress.com/tag/eagle-cave/


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[Texascavers] cavers helping cavers

2014-09-15 Thread David via Texascavers

From David Locklear
dlocklea...@gmail.com

I would like to thank about a dozen cavers for helping this past week
develop my new business flyer.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4yuhd2oqwj8qgpz/Criminal%20Process%20Server.pdf?dl=0

It isn't perfect yet, but it is far better than what I could have put together
by myself.

The hard part now is just getting potential customers to read it.
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[Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2014-08-30 Thread David via Texascavers

Hit delete button now.

This post is from David Locklear.

dlocklea...@gmail.com

This is a follow-up to a post 2 weeks ago about helping a retired caver
clean out his old house.

Today, I delivered some of his donated items to my rental unit in Brenham.
Some of the items once belonged to caver Donna Mosesmann.  The 3 links
below are the same photo, just enlarged.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ywbji1dxbbyx9u3/IMAG0214.jpg?dl=0

https:// https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g8rik5x0ic07aj/IMAG0215.jpg?dl=0
www.dropbox.com
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g8rik5x0ic07aj/IMAG0215.jpg?dl=0
/s/2g8rik5x0ic07aj/IMAG0215.jpg?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g8rik5x0ic07aj/IMAG0215.jpg?dl=0dl
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g8rik5x0ic07aj/IMAG0215.jpg?dl=0=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2g8rik5x0ic07aj/IMAG0215.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rl0tscy7olhxpl3/IMAG0216.jpg?dl=0

All of tose items and more fit inside my old Honda Fit, for the 2 hour
road-trip.

Unfortunately, the photo does not show the caving related items, but you
can see a souvenir plate of Mammoth Cave, a beanie-baby bat, an antique
Carlsbad ash-tray, and a cover shot of an issue of The Texas Caver
featuring a photo of a real caver.

In the background, is a huge storage unit, and unfortunately buried in
there is my caving gear, and about $ 1,000 worth of caver related items.

It is my goal that in 50 years, that the usable items here in this unit
will get passed on to a younger caver, but I am afraid the likely scenario
is the stuff will get auctioned off, or thrown away, and probably much
sooner than I am planning for.

Only a handful of people know, about my buried treasure here, which are the
people reading this message.

David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2014-08-30 Thread Crash Kennedy via Texascavers

David,

If you are paying even $100 a month for your storage unit (which is a
really good price), then you are paying $1200 a year.  So the cost of the
unit is more than what you say the contents are worth.  In 50 years you
will have paid over $60,000.  That is just poor economics.

Jim


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:09 PM, David via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 snip  In the background, is a huge storage unit, and unfortunately
 buried in there is my caving gear, and about $ 1,000 worth of caver related
 items.

 It is my goal that in 50 years, that the usable items here in this unit
 will get passed on to a younger caver, but I am afraid the likely scenario
 is the stuff will get auctioned off, or thrown away, and probably much
 sooner than I am planning for.

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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2014-08-30 Thread Julia Germany via Texascavers

Hi David!

You might want to consider donating your cave gear now to your local grotto. If 
it's in good shape, they can use it as loaner gear for newbies who have none.

The commemorative items like Mammoth and CaCa would make excellent donations to 
the TCMA for their auction at TCR. The money raised is used for cave 
conservation.

julia germany
germa...@aol.com 



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 On Aug 30, 2014, at 16:23, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 David,
 
 If you are paying even $100 a month for your storage unit (which is a really 
 good price), then you are paying $1200 a year.  So the cost of the unit is 
 more than what you say the contents are worth.  In 50 years you will have 
 paid over $60,000.  That is just poor economics.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:09 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 snip  In the background, is a huge storage unit, and unfortunately buried 
 in there is my caving gear, and about $ 1,000 worth of caver related items.
 It is my goal that in 50 years, that the usable items here in this unit will 
 get passed on to a younger caver, but I am afraid the likely scenario is the 
 stuff will get auctioned off, or thrown away, and probably much sooner than 
 I am planning for.
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2014-08-30 Thread Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers

Maybe you can auction all those items off instead of giving it away for
free. Proceeds pay for your storage and whatever is left donated to the
grotto to help maintain existing grotto gear and run the various websites
we have for member recruitment.

Maybe do it sooner than later to stop the cash bleed having to rent that
storage space in Brenham.



On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Hi David!

 You might want to consider donating your cave gear now to your local
 grotto. If it's in good shape, they can use it as loaner gear for newbies
 who have none.

 The commemorative items like Mammoth and CaCa would make excellent
 donations to the TCMA for their auction at TCR. The money raised is used
 for cave conservation.

 julia germany
 germa...@aol.com



 - from julia's cell

 On Aug 30, 2014, at 16:23, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 David,

 If you are paying even $100 a month for your storage unit (which is a
 really good price), then you are paying $1200 a year.  So the cost of the
 unit is more than what you say the contents are worth.  In 50 years you
 will have paid over $60,000.  That is just poor economics.

 Jim


 On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:09 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 snip  In the background, is a huge storage unit, and unfortunately
 buried in there is my caving gear, and about $ 1,000 worth of caver related
 items.

 It is my goal that in 50 years, that the usable items here in this unit
 will get passed on to a younger caver, but I am afraid the likely scenario
 is the stuff will get auctioned off, or thrown away, and probably much
 sooner than I am planning for.

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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers helping cavers

2014-08-30 Thread Mallory via Texascavers

David, quote me a price for that MACA plate and I'll start helping you pay for 
your storage unit right now. :) 

Mallory
mmay...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 30, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Lyndon Tiu via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Maybe you can auction all those items off instead of giving it away for free. 
 Proceeds pay for your storage and whatever is left donated to the grotto to 
 help maintain existing grotto gear and run the various websites we have for 
 member recruitment.
 
 Maybe do it sooner than later to stop the cash bleed having to rent that 
 storage space in Brenham.
 
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Hi David!
 
 You might want to consider donating your cave gear now to your local grotto. 
 If it's in good shape, they can use it as loaner gear for newbies who have 
 none.
 
 The commemorative items like Mammoth and CaCa would make excellent donations 
 to the TCMA for their auction at TCR. The money raised is used for cave 
 conservation.
 
 julia germany
 germa...@aol.com 
 
 
 
 - from julia's cell
 
 On Aug 30, 2014, at 16:23, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 David,
 
 If you are paying even $100 a month for your storage unit (which is a 
 really good price), then you are paying $1200 a year.  So the cost of the 
 unit is more than what you say the contents are worth.  In 50 years you 
 will have paid over $60,000.  That is just poor economics.
 
 Jim
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:09 PM, David via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 snip  In the background, is a huge storage unit, and unfortunately 
 buried in there is my caving gear, and about $ 1,000 worth of caver 
 related items.
 It is my goal that in 50 years, that the usable items here in this unit 
 will get passed on to a younger caver, but I am afraid the likely scenario 
 is the stuff will get auctioned off, or thrown away, and probably much 
 sooner than I am planning for.
 
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[Texascavers] cavers in the news

2013-10-30 Thread David

Is this old news ?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2013/10/29/hi-tech-explorers-set-out-to-map-ancient-rome-s-aqueducts

Sewerlunking finally getting some international recognition.

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] cavers on Linkedin

2013-10-18 Thread David

This is a follow-up post to something I wrote a few months ago.

Many cavers who hold some sort of regular job, have a Linkedin account.

Since my last post, Linkedin has become even more intrusive and aggressive.

The changes to the service these past few days are obvious and confusing.

You will most likely be bombarded with request to connect to me, but I
assure you
that I have no control over that. I will accept a link request
from a caver, but only for the purpose of explaining what my job is
about ( meaning not for socializing )

I think you can now link with somebody, eventhough they didn't approve
it like the
way you put someone in a Google+ Circle. I say that because in my contact
list is a crooked attorney ( oxymoron ? ) that I would never associate
with.   Also,
people I have deleted show up in my contact list.They all have a
grey logo of Linkedin
while the real contacts get a blue logo.

The NSA is probably really confused about all this, presuming they are
not really
the ones in control of it.

To me continued

David Locklear

P.S.

Sorry I will miss TCR.Sorry I will miss the birthday party, and
the meetings.

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RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-10 Thread Louise Power

From one federal employee perspective, we have to continue to husband our 
resources since we don't know when we're going back to work and even though 
the House has voted for us to get back pay when we return to work, the Senate 
hasn't...for heavens sake, they won't even pay death benefits for fallen 
military people. In addition, even if the senate votes back pay, none of that 
will come until we go back to work and we're not sure when that will be. You 
might think this is a great vacation, but I still owe $$$ for my recent 
hospital visit and I still have mortgage payments and cat food to buy. Shame 
on Congress for putting us through this. I'm a federal employee and I vote. (I 
am now stepping down from my soap box. Hard to type from up here.)

From: stefan.crea...@arm.com
To: dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 15:37:45 -0700
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough









I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P
 
From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]


Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM

To: CaveTex

Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough
 
I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.




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RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-10 Thread Louise Power

No, passes are only good when the parks are open and with the furlough, there 
are no open parks open. I think they gave somebody a ticket for jogging in one 
of the DC parks.

CC: ca...@caver.net; donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
From: germa...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 18:46:20 -0500
To: james.c.br...@me.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

Does that pass supersede an idiotic closure of national park access?

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On Oct 9, 2013, at 18:21, James Brown james.c.br...@me.com wrote:

I have a free lifetime pass.  I'm not a Senior.  

James
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On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote:

I did not go to Big Bend National Park last weekendSo much for buying a 
yearly passThink I could sue the Gub'ment ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:

I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
Arches NP this past week.

Sent cellularly.-Don
On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:

I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P

From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM

To: CaveTex

Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

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RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-10 Thread Louise Power

Then you'd also have to convince them that you haven't heard any newscasts, 
since that's all that's been on recently. Our local newscasts start every day 
with This is (whatever number) day of the government shutdown. Reminds me 
(remember, I'm a really old person) of the News during the Iran Hostage period: 
This is day 132 of the Iran hostage crisis. Instead of calling this a 
shutdown or furlough, they should call it the American public hostage crisis.

Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:20:50 -0500
From: gi...@att.net
To: germa...@aol.com
CC: james.c.br...@me.com; ca...@caver.net; donarb...@mac.com; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

A helicopter will work wonders when the front gate's locked. Oh, no sir. We 
didn't see any sighs.
--Ediger

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

Does that pass supersede an idiotic closure of national park access?

- from julia's cell
On Oct 9, 2013, at 18:21, James Brown james.c.br...@me.com wrote:

I have a free lifetime pass.  I'm not a Senior.  

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On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote:

I did not go to Big Bend National Park last weekendSo much for buying a 
yearly passThink I could sue the Gub'ment ?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:

I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
Arches NP this past week.

Sent cellularly.-Don
On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:

I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P

From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM

To: CaveTex

Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

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RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-10 Thread Stefan Creaser

I don’t watch any American news programs, coz there’s usually not any “news” on 
them.

From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:14 AM
To: Gill Ediger; Julia Germany
Cc: James Brown; Bill Bentley; Don Arburn; texas cavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

Then you'd also have to convince them that you haven't heard any newscasts, 
since that's all that's been on recently. Our local newscasts start every day 
with This is (whatever number) day of the government shutdown. Reminds me 
(remember, I'm a really old person) of the News during the Iran Hostage period: 
This is day 132 of the Iran hostage crisis. Instead of calling this a 
shutdown or furlough, they should call it the American public hostage crisis.

Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:20:50 -0500
From: gi...@att.net
To: germa...@aol.com
CC: james.c.br...@me.com; ca...@caver.net; donarb...@mac.com; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough
A helicopter will work wonders when the front gate's locked. Oh, no sir. We 
didn't see any sighs.

--Ediger

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Julia Germany 
germa...@aol.commailto:germa...@aol.com wrote:
Does that pass supersede an idiotic closure of national park access?

- from julia's cell

On Oct 9, 2013, at 18:21, James Brown 
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On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bill Bentley 
ca...@caver.netmailto:ca...@caver.net wrote:
I did not go to Big Bend National Park last weekend
So much for buying a yearly pass
Think I could sue the Gub'ment ?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Don Arburn donarb...@mac.commailto:donarb...@mac.com wrote:
I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
Arches NP this past week.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser 
stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P

From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
To: CaveTex
Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-10 Thread Herman Miller

I continue to go to work everyday with the promise of backpay but
thankfully I have been able to postpone most of my bills until I start
getting paid again.  Work is harder now as I do not have the support staff
I used to and I may end up missing the first two days of TCR as I cant take
leave currently as I am a critical employee of the government.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-10 Thread Julia Germany

Sadly true, Nico!

-Original Message-
From: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
To: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com; Mailing List 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 10, 2013 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

The agency that sometimes shoots people on the wrong side of the river

El jueves, 10 de octubre de 2013, Herman Miller  escribió:

I'm a federal agent under DHS in one of the most controversial and scorned 
agencies in the country.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:

Who do you work for? We've been banned from our office until this is over. 
Drove past the office yesterday and the parking lot looked very vacant. Only 
ones allowed to continue are law enforcement and fire dispatch. And our hazmat 
person is on call.

Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:35:23 -0500
From: her...@cavechat.org
To: dlocklea...@gmail.com
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

I continue to go to work everyday with the promise of backpay but thankfully I 
have been able to postpone most of my bills until I start getting paid again.  
Work is harder now as I do not have the support staff I used to and I may end 
up missing the first two days of TCR as I cant take leave currently as I am a 
critical employee of the government.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-10 Thread Louise Power

I'll see your DHS and raise you a BLM (but only for those living in the 11 
western states, almost nobody else knows who we are.)

Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:10:26 -0500
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough
From: her...@cavechat.org
To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com

I'm a federal agent under DHS in one of the most controversial and scorned 
agencies in the country.

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:

Who do you work for? We've been banned from our office until this is over. 
Drove past the office yesterday and the parking lot looked very vacant. Only 
ones allowed to continue are law enforcement and fire dispatch. And our hazmat 
person is on call.

Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:35:23 -0500
From: her...@cavechat.org
To: dlocklea...@gmail.com

CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

I continue to go to work everyday with the promise of backpay but thankfully I 
have been able to postpone most of my bills until I start getting paid again.  
Work is harder now as I do not have the support staff I used to and I may end 
up missing the first two days of TCR as I cant take leave currently as I am a 
critical employee of the government.

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

[Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread David

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

RE: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread Stefan Creaser

I think it's affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P

From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
To: CaveTex
Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough


I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread Don Arburn

I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
Arches NP this past week.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

 On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
 
 I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P
  
 From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
 To: CaveTex
 Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough
  
 I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread Bill Bentley

I did not go to Big Bend National Park last weekend
So much for buying a yearly pass
Think I could sue the Gub'ment ?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:

I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
Arches NP this past week.

Sent cellularly.

-Don


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I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P

 

From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
To: CaveTex
Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

 

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.


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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread James Brown

I have a free lifetime pass.  I'm not a Senior.  

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On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote:

 I did not go to Big Bend National Park last weekend
 So much for buying a yearly pass
 Think I could sue the Gub'ment ?
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
 
 
 Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
 Arches NP this past week.
 
 Sent cellularly.
 -Don
 
 On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
 
 I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P
  
 From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
 To: CaveTex
 Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough
  
 I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread Julia Germany

Does that pass supersede an idiotic closure of national park access?

- from julia's cell

 On Oct 9, 2013, at 18:21, James Brown james.c.br...@me.com wrote:
 
 I have a free lifetime pass.  I'm not a Senior.  
 
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 On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote:
 
 I did not go to Big Bend National Park last weekend
 So much for buying a yearly pass
 Think I could sue the Gub'ment ?
 
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
 
 
 Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
 Arches NP this past week.
 
 Sent cellularly.
 -Don
 
 On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
 
 I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P
  
 From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
 To: CaveTex
 Subject: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough
  
 I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread Gill Edigar

A helicopter will work wonders when the front gate's locked. Oh, no sir.
We didn't see any sighs.

--Ediger


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 Does that pass supersede an idiotic closure of national park access?

 - from julia's cell

 On Oct 9, 2013, at 18:21, James Brown james.c.br...@me.com wrote:

 I have a free lifetime pass.  I'm not a Senior.  

 James

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 On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote:

 I did not go to Big Bend National Park last weekend
 So much for buying a yearly pass
 Think I could sue the Gub'ment ?

 *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*


 Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:

 I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP
  Arches NP this past week.

 Sent cellularly.
 -Don

 On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:

  I think it’s affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P*
 ***

 ** **

 *From:* David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com dlocklea...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
 *To:* CaveTex
 *Subject:* [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

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 I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.

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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

2013-10-09 Thread Logan McNatt


Oh sure, try to blame the government shutdown when all they did was run a 
background check on you. =-O

On 10/9/2013 5:41 PM, Don Arburn wrote:

I was kicked out of Mesa Verde NP and blocked from entering Canyonlands NP  
Arches NP this past week.

Sent cellularly.
-Don

On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com 
mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:


I think it's affecting them by preventing some of them going to work :-P

*From:*David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:28 PM
*To:* CaveTex
*Subject:* [Texascavers] Cavers on furlough

I am curious how the furlough is affecting cavers.


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[Texascavers] Cavers help recover German bomber in French Cave

2013-09-22 Thread Frank Binney

A crashed German bomber hidden at the bottom of a 100 meter deep pit in the
French Pyrenees during World War II is being recovered by a team of cavers,
archeologists and historians. Makes a good read:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24159975

(And my apologies if this has already been posted on CaveTex--I hadn't seen
it before)


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[Texascavers] Cavers present study project to U.S. Sen. Heinrich

2013-07-17 Thread Lee H. Skinner


From the Carlsbad Current-Argus:

http://tinyurl.com/ljpk93f

Lee Skinner

[Texascavers] Cavers present study project to U.S. Sen. Heinrich

2013-07-17 Thread Lee H. Skinner


From the Carlsbad Current-Argus:

http://tinyurl.com/ljpk93f

Lee Skinner

[Texascavers] Cavers present study project to U.S. Sen. Heinrich

2013-07-17 Thread Lee H. Skinner


From the Carlsbad Current-Argus:

http://tinyurl.com/ljpk93f

Lee Skinner

Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Steele

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an especially relevant 
 song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)
 
 Mark
 
 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.
 
 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for 
 the
 music of the rock band, The Doors.
 
 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when it
 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?
 
 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.
 
 Here is a very interesting video related to him.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4
 
 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band were 
 playing
 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw
 
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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Preston Forsythe

I remember when my roommate came back from Christmas break to Calif. in '66 
or '67, and he was all up in the air about the Doors, so that was all we 
listened to for some time.


Preston...The Doors music had a sound different from that Muhlenberg Sound.

=
- Original Message - 
From: Phil Winkler pw...@dca.net

To: Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com; Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music



And, People are strange which fits many of us quite well.

At 5/21/2013 09:09 AM -0500, Bill Steele wrote:

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an
especially relevant song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)

 Mark

 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep
respect for the
 music of the rock band, The Doors.

 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of 
 music on

 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and
80's.Remember when it
 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

 Here is a very interesting video related to him.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver
band were playing
 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

 David Locklear

 Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Minton

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an especially 
relevant song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)


Mark

At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:

I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for the
music of the rock band, The Doors.

I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when it
was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

Here is a very interesting video related to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band 
were playing

it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

David Locklear


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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Steele

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an especially relevant 
 song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)
 
 Mark
 
 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.
 
 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for 
 the
 music of the rock band, The Doors.
 
 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when it
 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?
 
 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.
 
 Here is a very interesting video related to him.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4
 
 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band were 
 playing
 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw
 
 David Locklear
 
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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Phil Winkler


And, People are strange which fits many of us quite well.

At 5/21/2013 09:09 AM -0500, Bill Steele wrote:

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an 
especially relevant song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)


 Mark

 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep 
respect for the

 music of the rock band, The Doors.

 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 
80's.Remember when it

 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

 Here is a very interesting video related to him.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver 
band were playing

 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

 David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Preston Forsythe

I remember when my roommate came back from Christmas break to Calif. in '66 
or '67, and he was all up in the air about the Doors, so that was all we 
listened to for some time.


Preston...The Doors music had a sound different from that Muhlenberg Sound.

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And, People are strange which fits many of us quite well.

At 5/21/2013 09:09 AM -0500, Bill Steele wrote:

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an
especially relevant song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)

 Mark

 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep
respect for the
 music of the rock band, The Doors.

 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of 
 music on

 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and
80's.Remember when it
 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

 Here is a very interesting video related to him.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver
band were playing
 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

 David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Minton

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an especially 
relevant song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)


Mark

At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:

I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for the
music of the rock band, The Doors.

I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when it
was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

Here is a very interesting video related to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band 
were playing

it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

David Locklear


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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Bill Steele

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an especially relevant 
 song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)
 
 Mark
 
 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.
 
 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for 
 the
 music of the rock band, The Doors.
 
 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when it
 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?
 
 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.
 
 Here is a very interesting video related to him.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4
 
 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band were 
 playing
 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw
 
 David Locklear
 
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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Phil Winkler


And, People are strange which fits many of us quite well.

At 5/21/2013 09:09 AM -0500, Bill Steele wrote:

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an 
especially relevant song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)


 Mark

 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep 
respect for the

 music of the rock band, The Doors.

 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 
80's.Remember when it

 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

 Here is a very interesting video related to him.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver 
band were playing

 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

 David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-21 Thread Preston Forsythe

I remember when my roommate came back from Christmas break to Calif. in '66 
or '67, and he was all up in the air about the Doors, so that was all we 
listened to for some time.


Preston...The Doors music had a sound different from that Muhlenberg Sound.

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Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
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And, People are strange which fits many of us quite well.

At 5/21/2013 09:09 AM -0500, Bill Steele wrote:

And The End.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

Maybe cavers like the Doors because they made an
especially relevant song, Break On Through (To the Other Side).  ;-)

 Mark

 At 12:01 AM 5/21/2013, David wrote:
 I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

 I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep
respect for the
 music of the rock band, The Doors.

 I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of 
 music on

 their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and
80's.Remember when it
 was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

 Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

 Here is a very interesting video related to him.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

 Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver
band were playing
 it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

 David Locklear

 Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
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[Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-20 Thread David

I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for
the
music of the rock band, The Doors.

I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when
it
was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

Here is a very interesting video related to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band were
playing
it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

David Locklear

[Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-20 Thread David

I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for
the
music of the rock band, The Doors.

I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when
it
was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

Here is a very interesting video related to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band were
playing
it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

David Locklear

[Texascavers] cavers and music

2013-05-20 Thread David

I have never met a single caver that did not like music.

I don't think I have ever met a caver that did not have a deep respect for
the
music of the rock band, The Doors.

I bet many cavers went on road-trips and listened to that type of music on
their portable 8-track players back in the 70's and 80's.Remember when
it
was so cool to have an 8-track player in your car ?

Today we lost one of the band members of The Doors.

Here is a very interesting video related to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoRFAbdmKD4

Here is what that might sound like today if my favorite caver band were
playing
it at TCR ( hint, hint ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4FYpIvUIw

David Locklear

[Texascavers] Cavers Assist Bats

2011-06-20 Thread dirtdoc



Great! Some ammunition to fire back at those well-intentioned ignoramuses who 
are attacking cavers and the NSS convention. 





  

CAVERS ASSIST BATS IN DEVELOPING RESISTANCE AGAINST WNS. 





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Subject: [Texascavers] Some Bats Survive WNS

[Texascavers] Cavers Assist Bats

2011-06-20 Thread dirtdoc



Great! Some ammunition to fire back at those well-intentioned ignoramuses who 
are attacking cavers and the NSS convention. 





  

CAVERS ASSIST BATS IN DEVELOPING RESISTANCE AGAINST WNS. 





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Subject: [Texascavers] Some Bats Survive WNS

[Texascavers] Cavers Assist Bats

2011-06-20 Thread dirtdoc



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are attacking cavers and the NSS convention. 





  

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Subject: [Texascavers] Some Bats Survive WNS

[Texascavers] Cavers wanted to rappel the One American Center in downtown Austin

2011-06-08 Thread Tim White

I hope the subject got your attention. ;-)

Some of you may know me as the NCRC Southeast Regional Coordinator, or the 
Editor of the Vertical Section's Nylon Highway, or as a CaveChat Moderator, but 
I'm reaching out to the Texas caving community today wearing another hat, as 
the Southeast Regional Tech Manager for Over the Edge. 

Over the Edge is a special events company that provides events for non-profit 
organizations in North America. Participants are invited to raise pledges in 
exchange for the experience of rappelling over the edge of a local TALL 
building.

OTE is recruiting Ropes Volunteers for an event in Austin, TX on June 25, 2011  
This is a great event with proceeds going to Make-A-Wish Foundation of South 
and Central Texas. 

Below is the blurb right off of OTE's website. Bottom line...for a day and a 
half of volunteering you get to rappel the 32 stories of One American Center in 
downtown Austin for free! Caver and NCRC Instructor, Glenn Segrest will be the 
Level 3 rope access technician in charge of this event, so you would be working 
under him. This is a GREAT time and very rewarding. So much so, that many other 
cavers that you may know now work for OTE. (Nina and Jeff Martin of IMO, 
Rebecca Segrest; NCRC Instructors, Bill Putnam; SCCi and NSS BOG member, along 
with others)   

To sign up as a Ropes Volunteer go to: 
http://www.overtheedgeusa.com/default.asp?mn=1.432.473

To learn more about Over the Edge for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of Central  
South Texas go to:
http://www.austinovertheedge.com/

Feel free to repost this and pass it on to anyone that you think would like to 
help.

-
Ropes Volunteers
Volunteering… Building Better Communities
WE NEED YOU, SIGN UP TODAY!

This event simply cannot exist without the gracious support of community minded 
individuals like you. Our non-profit partners throughout North America rely on 
the time, commitment and efforts of local volunteers. Our volunteers are strong 
communicators with a passion for helping others and are utilized in a support 
capacity to assist our industrial rope specialists. You play a vital role in 
ensuring that a professional, seamless, safe event happens. We are grateful for 
your consideration and respect your time constraints ensuring that we schedule 
only what is necessary.

The time commitment we request is:
30-45 min webinar 14-21 days in advance (sign in to follow) 
2-3 hrs staff training on equipment usage, and industrial safety practice and 
procedures usually the day before the event 
6-12 hrs of time on Event Day

What you get out of it:
A great experience of helping completely terrified people go over the edge!
A great sense of community and pride knowing that you made a difference
A big thank you from our local non-profit partner!
A nifty shirt, lunch and all the event day fixings!
An exclusive rappelling experience that very few have ever done! 


Be safe, 
Tim White  NSS 26949 RE FE  
Editor, Nylon Highway 
- 
Southeast Region Coordinator- 
National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS


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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers wanted to rappel the One American Center in downtown Austin

2011-06-08 Thread Bob Booth

I volunteered for the OTE event in Cleveland (on a somewhat smaller
building) and had a great time; I recommend it!

Bob

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Tim White kd4...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I hope the subject got your attention. ;-)

 Some of you may know me as the NCRC Southeast Regional Coordinator, or the
 Editor of the Vertical Section's Nylon Highway, or as a CaveChat Moderator,
 but I'm reaching out to the Texas caving community today wearing another
 hat, as the Southeast Regional Tech Manager for Over the Edge.

 Over the Edge is a special events company that provides events for
 non-profit organizations in North America. Participants are invited to raise
 pledges in exchange for the experience of rappelling over the edge of a
 local TALL building.

 OTE is recruiting Ropes Volunteers for an event in Austin, TX on June 25,
 2011  This is a great event with proceeds going to Make-A-Wish Foundation of
 South and Central Texas.

 Below is the blurb right off of OTE's website. Bottom line...for a day and
 a half of volunteering you get to rappel the 32 stories of One American
 Center in downtown Austin for free! Caver and NCRC Instructor, Glenn Segrest
 will be the Level 3 rope access technician in charge of this event, so you
 would be working under him. This is a GREAT time and very rewarding. So much
 so, that many other cavers that you may know now work for OTE. (Nina and
 Jeff Martin of IMO, Rebecca Segrest; NCRC Instructors, Bill Putnam; SCCi and
 NSS BOG member, along with others)

 To sign up as a Ropes Volunteer go to:
 http://www.overtheedgeusa.com/default.asp?mn=1.432.473

 To learn more about Over the Edge for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of Central
  South Texas go to:
 http://www.austinovertheedge.com/

 Feel free to repost this and pass it on to anyone that you think would like
 to help.

 -
 Ropes Volunteers
 Volunteering… Building Better Communities
 WE NEED YOU, SIGN UP TODAY!

 This event simply cannot exist without the gracious support of community
 minded individuals like you. Our non-profit partners throughout North
 America rely on the time, commitment and efforts of local volunteers. Our
 volunteers are strong communicators with a passion for helping others and
 are utilized in a support capacity to assist our industrial rope
 specialists. You play a vital role in ensuring that a professional,
 seamless, safe event happens. We are grateful for your consideration and
 respect your time constraints ensuring that we schedule only what is
 necessary.

 The time commitment we request is:
 30-45 min webinar 14-21 days in advance (sign in to follow)
 2-3 hrs staff training on equipment usage, and industrial safety practice
 and procedures usually the day before the event
 6-12 hrs of time on Event Day

 What you get out of it:
 A great experience of helping completely terrified people go over the edge!
 A great sense of community and pride knowing that you made a difference
 A big thank you from our local non-profit partner!
 A nifty shirt, lunch and all the event day fixings!
 An exclusive rappelling experience that very few have ever done!


 Be safe,
 Tim White  NSS 26949 RE FE
 Editor, Nylon Highway
 -
 Southeast Region Coordinator-
 National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS


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[Texascavers] Cavers wanted to rappel the One American Center in downtown Austin

2011-06-08 Thread Tim White

I hope the subject got your attention. ;-)

Some of you may know me as the NCRC Southeast Regional Coordinator, or the 
Editor of the Vertical Section's Nylon Highway, or as a CaveChat Moderator, but 
I'm reaching out to the Texas caving community today wearing another hat, as 
the Southeast Regional Tech Manager for Over the Edge. 

Over the Edge is a special events company that provides events for non-profit 
organizations in North America. Participants are invited to raise pledges in 
exchange for the experience of rappelling over the edge of a local TALL 
building.

OTE is recruiting Ropes Volunteers for an event in Austin, TX on June 25, 2011  
This is a great event with proceeds going to Make-A-Wish Foundation of South 
and Central Texas. 

Below is the blurb right off of OTE's website. Bottom line...for a day and a 
half of volunteering you get to rappel the 32 stories of One American Center in 
downtown Austin for free! Caver and NCRC Instructor, Glenn Segrest will be the 
Level 3 rope access technician in charge of this event, so you would be working 
under him. This is a GREAT time and very rewarding. So much so, that many other 
cavers that you may know now work for OTE. (Nina and Jeff Martin of IMO, 
Rebecca Segrest; NCRC Instructors, Bill Putnam; SCCi and NSS BOG member, along 
with others)   

To sign up as a Ropes Volunteer go to: 
http://www.overtheedgeusa.com/default.asp?mn=1.432.473

To learn more about Over the Edge for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of Central  
South Texas go to:
http://www.austinovertheedge.com/

Feel free to repost this and pass it on to anyone that you think would like to 
help.

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the time, commitment and efforts of local volunteers. Our volunteers are strong 
communicators with a passion for helping others and are utilized in a support 
capacity to assist our industrial rope specialists. You play a vital role in 
ensuring that a professional, seamless, safe event happens. We are grateful for 
your consideration and respect your time constraints ensuring that we schedule 
only what is necessary.

The time commitment we request is:
30-45 min webinar 14-21 days in advance (sign in to follow) 
2-3 hrs staff training on equipment usage, and industrial safety practice and 
procedures usually the day before the event 
6-12 hrs of time on Event Day

What you get out of it:
A great experience of helping completely terrified people go over the edge!
A great sense of community and pride knowing that you made a difference
A big thank you from our local non-profit partner!
A nifty shirt, lunch and all the event day fixings!
An exclusive rappelling experience that very few have ever done! 


Be safe, 
Tim White  NSS 26949 RE FE  
Editor, Nylon Highway 
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National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS


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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers wanted to rappel the One American Center in downtown Austin

2011-06-08 Thread Bob Booth

I volunteered for the OTE event in Cleveland (on a somewhat smaller
building) and had a great time; I recommend it!

Bob

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Tim White kd4...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I hope the subject got your attention. ;-)

 Some of you may know me as the NCRC Southeast Regional Coordinator, or the
 Editor of the Vertical Section's Nylon Highway, or as a CaveChat Moderator,
 but I'm reaching out to the Texas caving community today wearing another
 hat, as the Southeast Regional Tech Manager for Over the Edge.

 Over the Edge is a special events company that provides events for
 non-profit organizations in North America. Participants are invited to raise
 pledges in exchange for the experience of rappelling over the edge of a
 local TALL building.

 OTE is recruiting Ropes Volunteers for an event in Austin, TX on June 25,
 2011  This is a great event with proceeds going to Make-A-Wish Foundation of
 South and Central Texas.

 Below is the blurb right off of OTE's website. Bottom line...for a day and
 a half of volunteering you get to rappel the 32 stories of One American
 Center in downtown Austin for free! Caver and NCRC Instructor, Glenn Segrest
 will be the Level 3 rope access technician in charge of this event, so you
 would be working under him. This is a GREAT time and very rewarding. So much
 so, that many other cavers that you may know now work for OTE. (Nina and
 Jeff Martin of IMO, Rebecca Segrest; NCRC Instructors, Bill Putnam; SCCi and
 NSS BOG member, along with others)

 To sign up as a Ropes Volunteer go to:
 http://www.overtheedgeusa.com/default.asp?mn=1.432.473

 To learn more about Over the Edge for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of Central
  South Texas go to:
 http://www.austinovertheedge.com/

 Feel free to repost this and pass it on to anyone that you think would like
 to help.

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 Ropes Volunteers
 Volunteering… Building Better Communities
 WE NEED YOU, SIGN UP TODAY!

 This event simply cannot exist without the gracious support of community
 minded individuals like you. Our non-profit partners throughout North
 America rely on the time, commitment and efforts of local volunteers. Our
 volunteers are strong communicators with a passion for helping others and
 are utilized in a support capacity to assist our industrial rope
 specialists. You play a vital role in ensuring that a professional,
 seamless, safe event happens. We are grateful for your consideration and
 respect your time constraints ensuring that we schedule only what is
 necessary.

 The time commitment we request is:
 30-45 min webinar 14-21 days in advance (sign in to follow)
 2-3 hrs staff training on equipment usage, and industrial safety practice
 and procedures usually the day before the event
 6-12 hrs of time on Event Day

 What you get out of it:
 A great experience of helping completely terrified people go over the edge!
 A great sense of community and pride knowing that you made a difference
 A big thank you from our local non-profit partner!
 A nifty shirt, lunch and all the event day fixings!
 An exclusive rappelling experience that very few have ever done!


 Be safe,
 Tim White  NSS 26949 RE FE
 Editor, Nylon Highway
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 National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS


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[Texascavers] Cavers wanted to rappel the One American Center in downtown Austin

2011-06-08 Thread Tim White

I hope the subject got your attention. ;-)

Some of you may know me as the NCRC Southeast Regional Coordinator, or the 
Editor of the Vertical Section's Nylon Highway, or as a CaveChat Moderator, but 
I'm reaching out to the Texas caving community today wearing another hat, as 
the Southeast Regional Tech Manager for Over the Edge. 

Over the Edge is a special events company that provides events for non-profit 
organizations in North America. Participants are invited to raise pledges in 
exchange for the experience of rappelling over the edge of a local TALL 
building.

OTE is recruiting Ropes Volunteers for an event in Austin, TX on June 25, 2011  
This is a great event with proceeds going to Make-A-Wish Foundation of South 
and Central Texas. 

Below is the blurb right off of OTE's website. Bottom line...for a day and a 
half of volunteering you get to rappel the 32 stories of One American Center in 
downtown Austin for free! Caver and NCRC Instructor, Glenn Segrest will be the 
Level 3 rope access technician in charge of this event, so you would be working 
under him. This is a GREAT time and very rewarding. So much so, that many other 
cavers that you may know now work for OTE. (Nina and Jeff Martin of IMO, 
Rebecca Segrest; NCRC Instructors, Bill Putnam; SCCi and NSS BOG member, along 
with others)   

To sign up as a Ropes Volunteer go to: 
http://www.overtheedgeusa.com/default.asp?mn=1.432.473

To learn more about Over the Edge for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of Central  
South Texas go to:
http://www.austinovertheedge.com/

Feel free to repost this and pass it on to anyone that you think would like to 
help.

-
Ropes Volunteers
Volunteering… Building Better Communities
WE NEED YOU, SIGN UP TODAY!

This event simply cannot exist without the gracious support of community minded 
individuals like you. Our non-profit partners throughout North America rely on 
the time, commitment and efforts of local volunteers. Our volunteers are strong 
communicators with a passion for helping others and are utilized in a support 
capacity to assist our industrial rope specialists. You play a vital role in 
ensuring that a professional, seamless, safe event happens. We are grateful for 
your consideration and respect your time constraints ensuring that we schedule 
only what is necessary.

The time commitment we request is:
30-45 min webinar 14-21 days in advance (sign in to follow) 
2-3 hrs staff training on equipment usage, and industrial safety practice and 
procedures usually the day before the event 
6-12 hrs of time on Event Day

What you get out of it:
A great experience of helping completely terrified people go over the edge!
A great sense of community and pride knowing that you made a difference
A big thank you from our local non-profit partner!
A nifty shirt, lunch and all the event day fixings!
An exclusive rappelling experience that very few have ever done! 


Be safe, 
Tim White  NSS 26949 RE FE  
Editor, Nylon Highway 
- 
Southeast Region Coordinator- 
National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS


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Re: [Texascavers] Cavers wanted to rappel the One American Center in downtown Austin

2011-06-08 Thread Bob Booth

I volunteered for the OTE event in Cleveland (on a somewhat smaller
building) and had a great time; I recommend it!

Bob

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Tim White kd4...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I hope the subject got your attention. ;-)

 Some of you may know me as the NCRC Southeast Regional Coordinator, or the
 Editor of the Vertical Section's Nylon Highway, or as a CaveChat Moderator,
 but I'm reaching out to the Texas caving community today wearing another
 hat, as the Southeast Regional Tech Manager for Over the Edge.

 Over the Edge is a special events company that provides events for
 non-profit organizations in North America. Participants are invited to raise
 pledges in exchange for the experience of rappelling over the edge of a
 local TALL building.

 OTE is recruiting Ropes Volunteers for an event in Austin, TX on June 25,
 2011  This is a great event with proceeds going to Make-A-Wish Foundation of
 South and Central Texas.

 Below is the blurb right off of OTE's website. Bottom line...for a day and
 a half of volunteering you get to rappel the 32 stories of One American
 Center in downtown Austin for free! Caver and NCRC Instructor, Glenn Segrest
 will be the Level 3 rope access technician in charge of this event, so you
 would be working under him. This is a GREAT time and very rewarding. So much
 so, that many other cavers that you may know now work for OTE. (Nina and
 Jeff Martin of IMO, Rebecca Segrest; NCRC Instructors, Bill Putnam; SCCi and
 NSS BOG member, along with others)

 To sign up as a Ropes Volunteer go to:
 http://www.overtheedgeusa.com/default.asp?mn=1.432.473

 To learn more about Over the Edge for the Make-A-Wish Foundation of Central
  South Texas go to:
 http://www.austinovertheedge.com/

 Feel free to repost this and pass it on to anyone that you think would like
 to help.

 -
 Ropes Volunteers
 Volunteering… Building Better Communities
 WE NEED YOU, SIGN UP TODAY!

 This event simply cannot exist without the gracious support of community
 minded individuals like you. Our non-profit partners throughout North
 America rely on the time, commitment and efforts of local volunteers. Our
 volunteers are strong communicators with a passion for helping others and
 are utilized in a support capacity to assist our industrial rope
 specialists. You play a vital role in ensuring that a professional,
 seamless, safe event happens. We are grateful for your consideration and
 respect your time constraints ensuring that we schedule only what is
 necessary.

 The time commitment we request is:
 30-45 min webinar 14-21 days in advance (sign in to follow)
 2-3 hrs staff training on equipment usage, and industrial safety practice
 and procedures usually the day before the event
 6-12 hrs of time on Event Day

 What you get out of it:
 A great experience of helping completely terrified people go over the edge!
 A great sense of community and pride knowing that you made a difference
 A big thank you from our local non-profit partner!
 A nifty shirt, lunch and all the event day fixings!
 An exclusive rappelling experience that very few have ever done!


 Be safe,
 Tim White  NSS 26949 RE FE
 Editor, Nylon Highway
 -
 Southeast Region Coordinator-
 National Cave Rescue Commission, NSS


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[Texascavers] cavers at arch sites

2011-01-21 Thread Mixon Bill

To add a note (probably politicially incorrect) about the cavers who  
used to support their caving habit by working at archaeological sites:  
I recall they used to refer to themselves as digroes. -- Mixon


A fearless man cannot be brave.

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RE: [Texascavers] cavers at arch sites

2011-01-21 Thread Fritz Holt

Probably? I love it. My, how times have changed.

Geezer

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 11:56 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] cavers at arch sites

To add a note (probably politicially incorrect) about the cavers who  
used to support their caving habit by working at archaeological sites:  
I recall they used to refer to themselves as digroes. -- Mixon

A fearless man cannot be brave.

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[Texascavers] Cavers in Puerto Rico?

2011-01-05 Thread John P Brooks

Does anyone have any caver contacts in Puerto Rico? I will be down there in a 
few weeks...and think it would be fun to going caving for a day or two.

Please respond OFF LIST.

[Texascavers] cavers in the news

2010-12-19 Thread David

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/4456332/Cavers-get-funds-to-explore-deeper

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[Texascavers] cavers recycle

2010-10-19 Thread Sam Young

The 2010 TCR contributed 6 pounds of plastic and 11 pounds of aluminum.  The 
plastic drink bottle which was filled with urine is on its way to the landfill.

. Sam

RE: [Texascavers] cavers recycle

2010-10-19 Thread Fritz Holt

And it's not Halloween yet.

F

From: Sam Young [mailto:youn...@centurytel.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:05 PM
To: cavers texas
Subject: [Texascavers] cavers recycle

The 2010 TCR contributed 6 pounds of plastic and 11 pounds of aluminum.  The 
plastic drink bottle which was filled with urine is on its way to the landfill.

. Sam

Re: [Texascavers] cavers recycle

2010-10-19 Thread tbsamsel


Did you run a pregnancy test on the urine filled bottle?Oct 19, 2010 03:05:31 PM, youn...@centurytel.net wrote:



The 2010 TCR contributed 6 pounds of plastic and 11 
pounds of aluminum. The plastic drink bottle which was filled with urine 
is on its way to the landfill.

. Sam


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RE: [Texascavers] cavers recycle

2010-10-19 Thread Linda Palit

Thanks Sam, for again, being the recycle hero!  We really appreciate your
efforts bring the containers and taking them back.  

From: Sam Young [mailto:youn...@centurytel.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:05 PM
To: cavers texas
Subject: [Texascavers] cavers recycle

The 2010 TCR contributed 6 pounds of plastic and 11 pounds of aluminum.  The
plastic drink bottle which was filled with urine is on its way to the
landfill.

. Sam

[Texascavers] cavers recycle

2010-10-13 Thread Sam Young

Recycling containers will be available at TCR for the collection of aluminum 
cans and plastic bottles.  Look for them near the Bexar Grotto camp and the 
food area.  The aluminum will be contributed to Green Guy Recycling of San 
Marcos, the providers of the containers.

. Sam

[Texascavers] Cavers all dressed up, circa 1981

2010-10-13 Thread Frank Binney

I recently scanned some black and white negatives of a Texas caver wedding
back in 1981. You might be surprised at some of the portraits of cavers you
know today, all dressed up in their 70s-era best for a church ceremony.
Here's a public link of the album on my Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2093366id=1172443723l=32e1790d48
(You don't have to be a Facebook member to view the images).
Frank
PS--I'm bummed out that I can't make it back to Texas this weekend to take
more embarrassing photos like these at TCR.


Frank Binney
Frank Binney  Associates
Interpretive Planning and Media Development
P.O. Box 258
Woodacre, CA 94973
415.488.1200 Voice
 




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[Texascavers] Cavers Needed at Honey Creek Cave, this Friday Saturday, April 2nd 3rd

2010-03-31 Thread ellie :)

*Cavers Needed at Honey Creek Cave this Friday  Saturday, April 2nd  3rd *

*Friday, April 2nd *cavers will be going in around 7am with the divers
(Chester Hot Tub and Creature). We need 3 more solid commitments for this
trip.

*Saturday, April 3rd* cavers will be going in around 9am. We have about 15
signed up but need more.

Both trips average 10 hours. There may be door prizes :)

Please make sure you have:
Wetsuit
Sturdy Lace-up Boots
Enough food to last 8-10 hours

Please contact me at ellie.tho...@gmail.com with what days you are available

[Texascavers] cavers in the news

2010-03-07 Thread David

You don't often see a caver interview in the news:

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/local/ci_14526888

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Re: [Texascavers] cavers in the news

2010-03-07 Thread Chris Vreeland

From the article: We don't just walk around in the woods and ... Ah!  
There's a cave!


Clearly, I've been doing it wrong. :-)


On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:39 AM, David wrote:


You don't often see a caver interview in the news:

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/local/ci_14526888

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[Texascavers] cavers and Facebook

2009-12-31 Thread David

Have you ever wondered,

what ever happened to some caver that you haven't heard from
in years ?

Some can be found on Facebook.

Any of you remember this guy?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10268285878ref=searchsid=1818118612.2031751878..1

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RE: [Texascavers] cavers in the news

2009-09-15 Thread Louise Power


The article said: ...with a longitude of more than four miles.

 

I think I'd be very careful believing someone who didn't know the difference 
between length and longitude.

 

Louise
 
 From: dlocklea...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:14:35 -0500
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: [Texascavers] cavers in the news
 
 I think someone's mentioned this already, but this is the official
 Aggie version of the story:
 
 http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2009/09/14/News/Marine.Biology.Professors.Research.Reaches.New.Depths-3770406.shtml
 
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Re: [Texascavers] cavers in the news

2009-09-15 Thread Gill Edigar

It was the reporter (Spanish surname) or translator. It appears that the
article may have been originally in Spanish or Portuguese. The word
longitud means length in Spanish or, perhaps, distance as in English
distance from the Prime Meridian or longitude.--Ediger

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comwrote:

  The article said: ...with a longitude of more than four miles.

 I think I'd be very careful believing someone who didn't know the
 difference between length and longitude.

 Louise

[Texascavers] cavers in the news

2009-09-14 Thread David

I think someone's mentioned this already, but this is the official
Aggie version of the story:

http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2009/09/14/News/Marine.Biology.Professors.Research.Reaches.New.Depths-3770406.shtml

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[Texascavers] cavers in comic books

2009-07-04 Thread David

Here is something that might appeal to cavers:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2009/06/29/image-comics-announces-underground/

http://www.comicbook.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/underground-1.jpg

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[Texascavers] Cavers in Houston?

2009-04-18 Thread Mike Flannigan



Is there a caving get-together is Houston today?

Must be - 6 so far and it's still raining hard.


Mike


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[Texascavers] Cavers, Zeitgeist Religion

2007-09-21 Thread William H. Russell


Cavers,
As cavers we have a special interest in civil rights and particularly 
the right of association with foreigners, of travel, and not to have 
a policy that isolates the US from the rest of the world.  The 
Zeitgeist video implies that the 9/11 disaster was orchestrated by 
the administration as an excuse to curtail our civil rights.  To tie 
the defense of civil rights to 9/11 conspiracy theories is a 
disservice to the defense of civil rights.  To get into the type of 
arguments they present about who is responsible for 9/11 appears to 
me to be an exercise in futility.  The producers of Zeitgeist are the 
true beliers and conspiracy is their religion.  But the 
administration that says, trust me you are in danger and we are 
doing only what is necessary is even worse (and they were elected.)


And, their critique of Christianity because of its similarity to 
previous religions is not compelling.  The problem with Noah's ark is 
not that other religions had floods with an ark, but that someone 
gathering all the animals of the world and building a boat to put 
them in strikes many people as a project unlikely to be successful. 
Bill Russell

--
William Hart Russell
4806 Red River Street
Austin, TX  78751
H: 512-453-4774 (messages)
CELL:  512-940-8336

[Texascavers] Cavers and the Virginia Tech shootings

2007-04-20 Thread Gill Ediger

Some of you have heard me say over the years that the VPI Grotto (was 
Virginia Polytechnic Institute back then, now is Virginia Tech) had the 
best Student Grotto (and probably the best caving club in general) in the 
entire country--even outclassing the UTG which, at the time was pretty hard 
to do. They had the advantage of having small caves within a few blocks of 
the campus and good caves not much farther away. Their Grotto meetings were 
scheduled for Friday evenings, after which they would retire to one of the 
local caves for training and experience gathering. Waiting for them outside 
the cave upon their egress, was a campfire, several kegs of beer, and some 
of the very best caving companionship, leadership, and showmanship that any 
caver could ask for. Little wonder that the VPI Grotto attracted and kept 
and claimed some of the finest cavers in the country. Having much talent to 
choose from they maintained a strong recruitment and training organization 
and cavers with a fierce sense of committment to their club and to each 
others as cavers, and many of their members enjoyed reputations as 
downright wild and crazy, something for which most everyone took at least a 
little bit of either credit or shame. Many of their members migrated into 
positions of responsibility in other local and regional caving 
organizations, in the NSS, and in groups like the CRF. Many are in education.


As you can imagine, several of them stayed on at VT for advanced degrees 
and some are now professors there. Many still live in Blackburg and follow 
other pursuits. Some have children who have attended or are currently 
enrolled. Even those VPI cavers who've moved away--some to Texas--still 
have close ties with former caving buddies currently living and/or working 
in Blacksburg and VT.


I was fortunate to be a peripheral part of their craziness for a few years 
back in the '70s (even hosted their New Year's party at my house) and on 
account of that and their bad memories I am still tolerated by their more 
compassionate members and am allowed to sit in on their email forum (SIVTAC).


I happened to be sitting at my computer on Monday morning when the first 
messages came through:


   From: Philip Balister phi...@balister.org
   Subject: God Bless the Internet

   http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2742309
   For those without scanners 

Then:

 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:13:47 -0500
 From: Jay Kennedy caver_...@hotmail.com

 The shooting is all over the news. MSNBC says 17 being treated at
 Montgomery Regional, one dead.
 What a tragic event...
 Doc Kennedy

A few minutes later, also from Jay:

 Now they're saying 20 dead on campus.
 Also, 28 being treated for gunshot wounds, one in critical condition.
 Doc

And not far behind:

 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:55:22 -0400
 From: Mike Richardson sablepant...@hotmail.com

 I hate to bring this up but Bob Simonds works in Norris Hall... does
 anyone have word on him?

The message about Bob working in Norris Hall had just arrived when my 
landlady knocked on my door; Turn on your TV, she said. Thirty people 
have been shot in Blacksburg. I hadn't even considered the TV. But I 
watched as the earliest reports and video unfolded.


The report that follows is from Bob Simonds who is a professor of 
engineering and was the subject of the email message mentioned above. It is 
(something--I can't think of a proper word) damned scarey, I guess, that 
within the first few seconds of coming into Norris Hall the gunman passed 
within a few feet of Bob's open office door. But let Bob tell the story 
from here.


--Ediger

-fwd
From: Bob Simonds rsimo...@vt.edu
Subject: Somebody was beating on a piece of plywood

Or at least, that's the closest I could come up with. But there
wasn't supposed to be any construction going on in that area of the
building. After living in Norris for twenty-something years, I have
been pretty aware of all the many construction projects that have
happened there over the years. And the rhythm didn't sound quite
right for somebody hammering in a nail. Beyond that, I really didn't
give it much more thought.

Then Gene Cole, one of our custodians, ran down the hall outside my
office, totally freaked, yelling about somebody having a gun and
shooting. (I haven't seen Gene since. I hope he is okay.) That's when
what I was hearing sank in. I slammed the door to my office, turned
off my light and started emailing out and checking email coming in. I
got a message about a shooting in one of the dorms from sometime
before. And one from Philip

From:   phi...@balister.org
Date:   April 16, 2007 9:54:50 AM EDT
To: rsimo...@vt.edu

FUCKING LOCK THE DOOR

Philip seldom swears and *never* uses all caps. It didn't matter; my
door was locked anyway.

Then I began hearing sirens, lots of them. I sort of lost track of
the time for a while. Eventually

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