[tw] [TW5] Using variables in a macro

2015-05-17 Thread Chong
Each topic that I want an article on has several sections, and I break 
these up into tabs. For example if I want an article about zebras, I'll 
have separate tiddlers for their physical characteristics, their behaviour, 
and diet, and then the Zebra tiddler just contains all the others in 
tabs. So this'll just consist of:

tabs [[Zebra - diet]] [[Zebra - behaviour]] [[zebra - physical 
characteristics]]

Problem is I'm going to be writing a lot of these (and there's more than 3 
tabs), and I don't want to fill in the name of the animal every time. 
I want to make a template like this:

tabs [[title - diet]] [[title - behaviour]] [[title - 
physical characteristics]]

But it obviously doesn't work (please forgive my ignorance). Anyone know 
how to do this?

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Re: [tw] Re: How to get an ultra minimized version of TW5

2015-05-17 Thread David Gifford
Hi Mario,

I meant the shadow tiddlers for translating core features. Sorry I wasn't
clear.

Dave

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 9:35 AM, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 2:36:40 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:

 The language components take up a fair bit of filesize, I think. Would be
 nice to have a TW5 without them. But that is probably wishful thinking as I
 think they are pretty much inextricably engraved into TW5.


 The language files have always been plugins. Just tiddlywiki.com included
 them all. If you have a look at tiddlywiki.com, there is only english
 left.
 All other languages are installed as plugins from the ControlPanel.

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[tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme

2015-05-17 Thread Birthe C
Hi Mat

The topbar with the menu icon is only visible on small screen.


Birthe


Den søndag den 17. maj 2015 kl. 18.43.35 UTC+2 skrev Mat:

 I'm unsure how to get any page tools or mobile bar to show up. In the 
 ctrlpanel there are already some selected alternatives, but where to they 
 actually show up?

 :-)


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[tw] Help converting a couple of tiddlers from TWC to TW5

2015-05-17 Thread Andy Arnold
Good Morning,

I've spent 40+ years writing code and converting files  databases.  This 
problem should be easy, but it has me stumped.

I have a TWC tiddler (StyleSheetCustom) that defines some new css style 
names.  The new css defines fore/background color combinations as single 
words.  It also combines several font family terms into a single term 
(loco26). Here's a few lines...
.backYellow{color: #000; background:yellow;}
.backGainsboro{color: #000; background: #DCDCDC;}
.backYellow30{color: #8B3A3A; background: yellow; font-size:30px;}

and I have another tiddler (Motive Power Paint) that uses the new css...
* {{backYellow30{{{loco26{nbsp;C}}}{{loco18{APON 
}}}{{loco26{V}}}{{loco18{ALLEY}}}{{loco26{ R}}}{{loco18{AILROADnbsp;}}} }}}

The idea is to show 'CAPON VALLEY RAILROAD' in a common type face and a 
common fore/background color pair with the C V R in a larger font-size than 
the rest of the phrase.

I only want to do this for a few tiddlers; so I'm not looking for a 
theme-level solution.  

Can someone please send me to some links, etc. that have example 
solutions?  

Thanks

--Andy

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[tw] Re: How to get an ultra minimized version of TW5

2015-05-17 Thread PMario
On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 2:36:40 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:

 The language components take up a fair bit of filesize, I think. Would be 
 nice to have a TW5 without them. But that is probably wishful thinking as I 
 think they are pretty much inextricably engraved into TW5.


The language files have always been plugins. Just tiddlywiki.com included 
them all. If you have a look at tiddlywiki.com, there is only english left. 
All other languages are installed as plugins from the ControlPanel. 

-m

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[tw] Re: Help converting a couple of tiddlers from TWC to TW5

2015-05-17 Thread Eric Shulman
On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 7:27:20 AM UTC-7, Andy Arnold wrote:

 I've spent 40+ years writing code and converting files  databases.  This 
 problem should be easy, but it has me stumped.

 I have a TWC tiddler (StyleSheetCustom) that defines some new css style 
 names.  The new css defines fore/background color combinations as single 
 words.  It also combines several font family terms into a single term 
 (loco26). Here's a few lines...
 .backYellow{color: #000; background:yellow;}
 .backGainsboro{color: #000; background: #DCDCDC;}
 .backYellow30{color: #8B3A3A; background: yellow; font-size:30px;}

 and I have another tiddler (Motive Power Paint) that uses the new css...
 * {{backYellow30{{{loco26{nbsp;C}}}{{loco18{APON 
 }}}{{loco26{V}}}{{loco18{ALLEY}}}{{loco26{ R}}}{{loco18{AILROADnbsp;}}} }}}

 The idea is to show 'CAPON VALLEY RAILROAD' in a common type face and a 
 common fore/background color pair with the C V R in a larger font-size than 
 the rest of the phrase.
 I only want to do this for a few tiddlers; so I'm not looking for a 
 theme-level solution.  
 Can someone please send me to some links, etc. that have example 
 solutions? 


Your stylesheet definitions are OK as-is.  Just paste them into a new 
tiddler in your TW5 document, and add the tag $:/tags/Stylesheet so that 
the core will recognize it as CSS definitions.

However, the syntax for *using* the CSS classnames in inline content has 
changed from TWC to TW5.

The TWC classwrapper syntax is:
   {{classname{...content...}}} 

The TW5 classwrapper syntax is:
   @@.classname content@@
   (note: the dot (.) before the classname and the space separating the 
classname from the content are important!)

For your particular use-case, it's just a tiny bit trickier because you are 
*nesting* the classes, and in inline mode, the @@ syntax doesn't nest.
However, you can easily work around this by using HTML for the outer 
wrapper, like this:

span class=backYellow30
@@.loco26 nbsp;C.loco18 APON@@
@@.loco26 V.loco18 ALLEY@@
@@.loco26 R.loco18 AILROADnbsp;@@
/span

Note also that, for this particular use case, you can use the 
::first-letter pseudo-element in your CSS definitions to achieve the same 
results (first letter of each word in a larger font)

.loco2618
   { font-size:18pt; }
.loco2618::first-letter
   { display:inline-block;font-size:26pt; }

Then, you can use it like this:
span class=backYellow30
@@.loco2618 nbsp;CAPON@@
@@.loco2618 VALLEY@@
@@.loco2618 RAILROADnbsp;@@
/span

enjoy,
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Re: [tw] Re: Dynamic filter with all option

2015-05-17 Thread Brian Gates
Thanks again, that should do the trick. I ended up promoting the fields to tags 
in any event.

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com
wrote:

 errata: I left out the outer square brackets on the filter=... bits:
 it should have been this:
 $reveal type=match text=All state=!!school_filter
 $list filter=[has[school]]
...
 /$list
 /$reveal
 $reveal type=nomatch text=All state=!!school_filter
 $list filter=[school{!!school_filter}]
...
 /$list
 /$reveal

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Re: [tw] Re: Dynamic filter with all option

2015-05-17 Thread Brian Gates
Ok one more crazy question. If I wanted checkboxes to show/hide spells of 
certain levels 1-9, is there anything I could do there? Level exists as tag and 
field.




Would love to be able to sort across levels also. 




So, show spells level 1,2, and 3 sorted by name.

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com
wrote:

 errata: I left out the outer square brackets on the filter=... bits:
 it should have been this:
 $reveal type=match text=All state=!!school_filter
 $list filter=[has[school]]
...
 /$list
 /$reveal
 $reveal type=nomatch text=All state=!!school_filter
 $list filter=[school{!!school_filter}]
...
 /$list
 /$reveal

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[tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme

2015-05-17 Thread Mat
I'm unsure how to get any page tools or mobile bar to show up. In the 
ctrlpanel there are already some selected alternatives, but where to they 
actually show up?

:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Using variables in a macro

2015-05-17 Thread Eric Shulman
On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 7:18:12 AM UTC-7, Chong wrote:

 Each topic that I want an article on has several sections, and I break 
 these up into tabs. For example if I want an article about zebras, I'll 
 have separate tiddlers for their physical characteristics, their behaviour, 
 and diet, and then the Zebra tiddler just contains all the others in 
 tabs. So this'll just consist of:

 tabs [[Zebra - diet]] [[Zebra - behaviour]] [[zebra - physical 
 characteristics]]

 Problem is I'm going to be writing a lot of these (and there's more than 3 
 tabs), and I don't want to fill in the name of the animal every time. 
 I want to make a template like this:

 tabs [[title - diet]] [[title - behaviour]] [[title - 
 physical characteristics]]

 But it obviously doesn't work (please forgive my ignorance). Anyone know 
 how to do this?


You can create a macro that takes the animal name as a parameter, and then 
invokes the tabs macro using that param value, like this:

\define animaltabs(animal)
tabs [[$animal$ - diet]] [[$animal$ - behaviour]] [[$animal$ - physical 
characteristics]]
\end

Then, just call it like this:
animaltabs Zebra
animaltabs Monkey
animaltabs Lion
etc.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Comments on a tiddlywiki blogthing

2015-05-17 Thread Jed Carty
Hashover consists of some php scripts and related files stored on the same 
server as the tiddlywiki html file, because of this it isn't something that 
could be used on tiddlyspot. It also isn't a replacement for federation, 
which if I understand it correctly will allow things that work more closely 
with tiddlywiki itself. Perhaps a commenting system like this in 
conjunction with federation would be useful because then people without 
wikis could still interact.

This is the fist of the possibilities that I have tried out, I just got 
lucky and it was pretty easy to implement in a tiddlywiki. There may be 
better alternatives. One of the problems with this one is that due to the 
license it uses I can't bundle anything for the tiddlywiki side of things 
with the hashover code.

I am hoping to use hashover to take and store the comments to get around 
tiddlywiki being unable to give people selective write privileges like it 
would have to do to allow comments directly. While tiddlywiki can probably 
be set up to read the contents of xml files I think it will be easier than 
that. Hashover generates the javascript used to display the comments as it 
is needed, and the part that actually holds the comment information is a 
json object (or something very similar anyway). So what I want to do is 
instead of having hashover both take the comments and display them, I would 
like to have hashover take and store comments and then have it send 
tiddlywiki the comments in json format. That way I can make a tool to 
automate putting the comments into tiddlers and display them however I 
want. This will also allow some more advanced comment moderation, which is 
sadly lacking in hashover.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Comments on a tiddlywiki blogthing

2015-05-17 Thread Andreas Hahn

Interesting project and it seems to work really well, nice !

From what I have gathered, it does sound conceivable to implement a 
syncadaptor module for tiddlywiki that interfaces with hashover either 
directly or through a php proxy script, thereby treating comments 
including writing and reading operations as normal operations on tiddlers.


/Andreas


Am 18.05.2015 um 04:35 schrieb Jed Carty:
Hashover consists of some php scripts and related files stored on the 
same server as the tiddlywiki html file, because of this it isn't 
something that could be used on tiddlyspot. It also isn't a 
replacement for federation, which if I understand it correctly will 
allow things that work more closely with tiddlywiki itself. Perhaps a 
commenting system like this in conjunction with federation would be 
useful because then people without wikis could still interact.


This is the fist of the possibilities that I have tried out, I just 
got lucky and it was pretty easy to implement in a tiddlywiki. There 
may be better alternatives. One of the problems with this one is that 
due to the license it uses I can't bundle anything for the tiddlywiki 
side of things with the hashover code.


I am hoping to use hashover to take and store the comments to get 
around tiddlywiki being unable to give people selective write 
privileges like it would have to do to allow comments directly. While 
tiddlywiki can probably be set up to read the contents of xml files I 
think it will be easier than that. Hashover generates the javascript 
used to display the comments as it is needed, and the part that 
actually holds the comment information is a json object (or something 
very similar anyway). So what I want to do is instead of having 
hashover both take the comments and display them, I would like to have 
hashover take and store comments and then have it send tiddlywiki the 
comments in json format. That way I can make a tool to automate 
putting the comments into tiddlers and display them however I want. 
This will also allow some more advanced comment moderation, which is 
sadly lacking in hashover.

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[tw] Embedded PDF problem

2015-05-17 Thread PJO
One of my uses of TiddlyWiki for some years has been to publish the agenda 
of an annual general meeting and a few related items in a small wiki.

Last year I switched to TW5 and embedded a couple of one page PDF files 
without any problem. They displayed nicely.

This year I updated the contents of the wiki and republished it. Today I 
got word that some pages were blank. They were certainly ok when I 
published them with Chrome a few weeks ago. Now, I find that they are ok 
with Firefox but not with either Chrome or with Internet Explorer (all 
latest versions). I just tried the latest TW5 (5.1.8) with the same 
results. 

Suggestions welcome.

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[tw] Re: Embedded PDF problem

2015-05-17 Thread PJO
Just to add to this, the embedded PDFs in last year's wiki (5.0.10-beta) no 
longer display in Chrome, so I assume the problem is somewhere in Chrome 
and not TW5. I'm using Chrome's built-in PDF viewer.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Comments on a tiddlywiki blogthing

2015-05-17 Thread Mat
Hijacker here, commenting on his own answers:
 

 Where, actually, are the comments stored? And in what format? I couldn't 
 find info on this on their site.
 EDIT: HashOver is self-hosted, as users post comments, individual XML 
 files are created in a subdirectory named after the page URL under a 
 specified directory in the hashover/scripts/settings.php file.



XML - isn't this something TW can read? Does this mean it could actually be 
imported into TW?

One thing that I'm guess might work is this, but set for xml:

 object data=text.txt type=text/plain
  Text file not used.
 /object 

:-)

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[tw] [TW5] ToC not showing slider arrows

2015-05-17 Thread Mat
I recall a previous suggestion to put the Controlpanel in a ToC tiddler 
display (ie. the menu on the left in a tiddler). I can't find the 
proposal right now, but a major objection against it was that the ToC in a 
tiddler is not suitable for smaller screens such as mobile. It's a fair 
objection, at the moment, but I hope separate themes for different size 
screens will allow flexibility in this because the current Controlpanel 
would be much nicer with a ToC.

...however, I just got an idea to put the Controlpanel as a ToC in the 
sidebar. The sidebar has a kind of mixed role both for actual use 
operations and for system admin, so why not? And we actually already have 
the tab Tools that is in common with the Controlpanel. 
For testing, I put up http://twctrlb.tiddlyspot.com/ and created tab 
Settings

But as you can see, I don't get the ToC slider-arrows to show. Might it 
have something to do with that the titles are prefixed $:/?

Any ideas how to solve this?

Thank you

:-)

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[tw] How to get an ultra minimized version of TW5

2015-05-17 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello, 

I want to get a TW5 as barebones as possible, with only the parts I know I will 
need. I'm not talking about an empty version, neither a minimized one. I'm 
talking about getting rid of some core widgets and functionalities that I don't 
want or need at certain scenarios. I though about using some filter to remove 
that particular tiddlers on the build section of tiddlywiky.info. Is that 
correct? If so, could someone post me an example? 

Another topic for improvement would be to get a minimized version of the core. 

Thanks to anyone who helps me. 

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[tw] Re: Help converting a couple of tiddlers from TWC to TW5

2015-05-17 Thread PMario
HI Andy, 

On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 4:27:20 PM UTC+2, Andy Arnold wrote:

 Good Morning,

 I've spent 40+ years writing code and converting files  databases.  This 
 problem should be easy, but it has me stumped.


Nice to see, that an old stager likes TW ;)
 

 The idea is to show 'CAPON VALLEY RAILROAD' in a common type face and a 
 common fore/background color pair with the C V R in a larger font-size than 
 the rest of the phrase.


In TW I'd use the following mechanism, which imo is much easier to read. 

Define a CSS stylesheet tiddler eg: myStyleSheet   tag it $:/tags/Stylesheet

.zz em {
  display:inline-block; 
  font-style: normal;
}

.zz em:first-letter{ 
  color: red; 
  font-size: 130%; 
}

Your text

@@.zz
* //CAPON// VALLEY //RAILROAD//
** CAPON //VALLEY// RAILROAD
@@

or

*.zz //CAPON// VALLEY //RAILROAD//

As you see. I'm missusing the italics format here. ... you could also use 
eg: strikethrough, where the CSS would look like this

.zz strike{
  display:inline-block; 
  text-decoration:none;
}

.zz strike:first-letter{ 
  color: red; 
  font-size: 130%; 
}

and the text: 

@@.zz
* ~~CAPON~~ VALLEY ~~RAILROAD~~
@@



With this CSS you get a similar result to Erics suggestion

.xx{
  display:inline-block; 
  font-style: normal;
}

.xx:first-letter { 
  color: red; 
  font-size: 130%; 
}

@@.xx Some.xx text@@ ... but I think it's hard to read


have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme

2015-05-17 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Mat, 

As Birthe said the mobile menu is only visible on small screens or Windows. As 
it is stated on the Hello there tiddler try making the window slimmer. Your 
opinion is very important to me! 

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[tw] Re: My vision of a mobile theme

2015-05-17 Thread Mat
Birthe, Danielo - thanks, that makes sense. And it is one of those see it 
once and then you know forever things so it is fine for UI.

 Your opinion is very important to me!

I'd be happy to make a run through of my thoughts if you want me to.

:-)



One thing that I (think that I would) want is 


On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 8:48:17 PM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

 Hello Mat, 

 As Birthe said the mobile menu is only visible on small screens or 
 Windows. As it is stated on the Hello there tiddler try making the window 
 slimmer. Your opinion is very important to me! 

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[tw] [TW5] Comments on a tiddlywiki blogthing

2015-05-17 Thread Jed Carty
After a false start, I was able to get hashover 
http://tildehash.com/?page=hashover to work with tiddlywiki over on my 
site 
http://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#I%20have%20a%20working%20comments%20system%20in%20tiddlywiki.
 
Hashover is a free open source self-hosted commenting system that uses PHP 
and javascript. There are some very brief and probably not very helpful 
instructions for setting it up here 
http://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#Adding%20comments%20sections%20to%20tiddlers%20on%20a%20tiddlywiki%20using%20hashover,
 
I will hopefully make them better at some point.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Comments on a tiddlywiki blogthing

2015-05-17 Thread Mat
Interesting stuff.

Where, actually, are the comments stored? And in what format? I couldn't 
find info on this on their site.

They state Restricted use of HTML tags... could you paste in static 
tiddlers? (..you may have some thoughts on the recent github thread 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1676 regarding what we 
need for static tiddlers)

And, could the posts be individually *wrapped *into tiddlers?

:-)


On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 9:23:51 PM UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:

 After a false start, I was able to get hashover 
 http://tildehash.com/?page=hashover to work with tiddlywiki over on my 
 site 
 http://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#I%20have%20a%20working%20comments%20system%20in%20tiddlywiki.
  
 Hashover is a free open source self-hosted commenting system that uses PHP 
 and javascript. There are some very brief and probably not very helpful 
 instructions for setting it up here 
 http://ooktech.com/jed/externalbrain/#Adding%20comments%20sections%20to%20tiddlers%20on%20a%20tiddlywiki%20using%20hashover,
  
 I will hopefully make them better at some point.


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[tw] Re: Dynamic filter with all option

2015-05-17 Thread Jed Carty
The most straight forward way is to have a reveal widget that shows the 
list of everything when 'all' is selected, and shows the list for the 
specific tag when any other option is selected. You may also be able to 
make a macro that returns tag[SomeSchool] when the field isn't 'all' and 
returns an empty string when the field is 'all'. It is too late for me to 
think about the second option too much now. I think I have some example in 
one of the plugins I made. I may remember in the morning.

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Re: [tw] Re: Dynamic filter with all option

2015-05-17 Thread Eric Shulman
On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 10:03:42 PM UTC-7, Brian Gates wrote:

 Right, but if I wanted to filter by a Spell field school, and I wanted 
 an all option, what might I do?  I don't have the same luxury of 
 necessarily specifying Spell as the tag, I have to fill in something for 
 the filter.


To get all tiddlers that has a school field, regardless of the value, you 
would need to use the has[school] filter instead of 
school!!schoolfilter.

You can accomplish this by using a pair of $reveal widgets that uses the 
{{!!school_filter}} input as the state:

$reveal type=match text=All state=!!school_filter
$list filter=has[school]
   ...
/$list
/$reveal
$reveal type=nomatch text=All state=!!school_filter
$list filter=school{!!school_filter}
   ...
/$list
/$reveal

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Re: [tw] Re: Dynamic filter with all option

2015-05-17 Thread Eric Shulman
errata: I left out the outer square brackets on the filter=... bits:

it should have been this:


 $reveal type=match text=All state=!!school_filter
 $list filter=[has[school]]
...
 /$list
 /$reveal
 $reveal type=nomatch text=All state=!!school_filter
 $list filter=[school{!!school_filter}]
...
 /$list
 /$reveal


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[tw] Re: How to get an ultra minimized version of TW5

2015-05-17 Thread David Gifford
The language components take up a fair bit of filesize, I think. Would be 
nice to have a TW5 without them. But that is probably wishful thinking as I 
think they are pretty much inextricably engraved into TW5.

Dave

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Re: [tw] How to get an ultra minimized version of TW5

2015-05-17 Thread Felix Küppers
Hola,

 Another topic for improvement would be to get a minimized version of the 
 core. 


I posted here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1643

-Felix

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