[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread TonyM
Jed, Mate,

It seems to be a constant attribute of yours to under estimate the value of 
your contributions and how much people use them. True there is minimal 
feedback and no quantification of who in and what the community is using. 

A proxy for this is people in the community talking about your tools and 
mentioning them in response to others questions. For members to do this it 
is clear your tools are on their mind and on their computers.

I for one love, depend on and are very impressed with Multi-user, Single 
Executable and GenTags to name a few currently on my mind.

Your contributions are certainly in the top 10 list of the best community 
contributions.

With respect i suggest you suspend your disbelief and assume we are using 
everyone of your tools consistently.

Yours Sincerly
Tony

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[tw] Re: Faceted search

2018-04-05 Thread TonyM
Post Script

I should also of added, custom fields for with particular values 
For example 

   - source for a URL to where you found the info
   - file-location where supporting material is stored
   - etc...

Regards
Tony
 

On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 8:32:07 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Brady,
>
> Not only do I believe you can achieve this with TiddlyWiki, you can go a 
> lot further. The same data can be organised multiple ways. Using title, 
> tags and content search will get you a long way but do not under estimate 
> the use of fields as well. Once a field exists it can be searched for its 
> existence with has:field[fieldname] even before you questions the fields 
> content. Then fields can be used like tags with one or multiple values in a 
> list in each field.
>
> One of the keys is ensuring a tiddler is classified on creation or update. 
> A number of things can be done to encourage this.
>
> Jeds GenTags plugin https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/GenericTagFields/ 
> permits the building of Tag equivalent sets, which I plan to use for 
> categories and subjects and other organising keywords.
>
> Tag are great because we can apply any tag to any thing however as 
> complexity builds they become overwhelming. 
>
> To deal with this I initially used filters and lists that could list tags 
> that are tagged by another tag, I also used versions of the TableOfContents 
> that expose multiple hierarchies of tags starting with alternate master 
> tags.
>
> However in my more sophisticated wikis I plan to build independent 
> subject, category and keyword fields which have a curated set of "values" 
> so when entering content you are prompted to nominate one of more values 
> for each field, from a curated set of values. This will help prompt the 
> application of appropriate organising values.
>
> For Example
> Tags - adhoc or parent child relationships
> Category - One or more categories from a category list/hierarchy 
> Strict Category - One only categorie from a category list/hierarchy 
> Subject -  One or more subjects from a subject list/hierarchy 
> Strict Subject -  One only subject from a subject list/hierarchy 
> Keywords - any number of words, not in the text that may provide an avenue 
> to find the tiddler again
>
> After using the above methods you can also design searches that operate 
> across all values.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 12:16:26 AM UTC+10, Brady77 wrote:
>>
>> Dear members,
>>
>> you may have the same problem: the only way I can remember things is by 
>> having some *context*. How such a context is created depends on how 
>> people actually think. You may recall a person via a place where you met 
>> before. Or a time frame combined with a place. And emotions, maybe. 
>> Probably the most popular scheme for creating a context is 
>> *classification*. People tend to create "boxes" for things because they 
>> need some context (of course, to be able to rule those things later, but it 
>> is a different story). What are we forced to use in the IT world are 
>> *folders* and *tags*. Folders allow for creating a *hierarchy*, but 
>> don't allow to have a thing (a tiddler) to be in more than one folder at 
>> the same time - *just one context only*. Tags on the other hand are 
>> *flat* in structure, but allow for *more than one context*. Tiddlywiki 
>> allows for a combination: *tags hierarchy*. Great! So I developed a 
>> system of tags that helps me recall things quickly. Just to show you what I 
>> mean by a "system of tags":
>>
>> 1. Data format
>>
>> 1.1 Image
>>
>> 1.2 Webpage
>>
>> 1.3 Video
>>
>> 1.4  ...
>>
>> 2. Message form
>>
>> 2.1 Report
>>
>> 2.2 Tutorial
>>
>> 2.3 Overview
>>
>> 2.4 Promo
>>
>> 3. Topic
>>
>> 3.1 Business
>>
>>  3.1.1 Marketing
>>
>> 3.1.1.1 Content marketing
>>
>> 3.1.1.2 SEO
>>
>> 3.1.2 Trading
>>
>> 3.1.2.1 Stock
>>
>> 3.1.2.2 Cryptocurrency 
>>
>> 3.2 Art
>>
>> 3.2.1 Visual
>>
>> 3.2.1.1 Typography
>>
>> 3.2.1.2 Photography
>>
>> 3.2.1.3 Drawing
>>
>> 3.2.1.4 Architecture
>>
>> 3.2.2 Performing
>>
>> 3.2.2.1 Music
>>
>> 3.2.2.2 Movie 
>>
>> 4. Subject
>>
>> 4.1 TiddlyWiki
>>
>> 4.2 Cisco
>>
>> 4.3 Donald Trump
>>
>> 4.4 ...
>>
>>
>> What I created is a kind of faceted classification 
>> . Let me describe 
>> my ideal workflow, now:
>>
>> Say I came across an interesting post on Medium: *How to write something 
>> that people like to read. * I decided to save it into my TiddlyWiki. 
>> With Tiddlyclip I created new tiddler and added some tags, too: ["Webpage", 
>> "Tutorial", "Content marketing","Typography"].  
>>
>> A few weeks later I am writing a blog post to support my business, but I 
>> don't know how to write an interesting copy. Is there anything interesting 
>> in my TiddlyWiki? Let's have a look: First I would type "marketing" into 
>> the *search bar*. Next I want to narrow the fulltext search output to 
>> categories, so I choose "*show me tags 

[tw] Re: Faceted search

2018-04-05 Thread TonyM
Brady,

Not only do I believe you can achieve this with TiddlyWiki, you can go a 
lot further. The same data can be organised multiple ways. Using title, 
tags and content search will get you a long way but do not under estimate 
the use of fields as well. Once a field exists it can be searched for its 
existence with has:field[fieldname] even before you questions the fields 
content. Then fields can be used like tags with one or multiple values in a 
list in each field.

One of the keys is ensuring a tiddler is classified on creation or update. 
A number of things can be done to encourage this.

Jeds GenTags plugin https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/GenericTagFields/ 
permits the building of Tag equivalent sets, which I plan to use for 
categories and subjects and other organising keywords.

Tag are great because we can apply any tag to any thing however as 
complexity builds they become overwhelming. 

To deal with this I initially used filters and lists that could list tags 
that are tagged by another tag, I also used versions of the TableOfContents 
that expose multiple hierarchies of tags starting with alternate master 
tags.

However in my more sophisticated wikis I plan to build independent subject, 
category and keyword fields which have a curated set of "values" so when 
entering content you are prompted to nominate one of more values for each 
field, from a curated set of values. This will help prompt the application 
of appropriate organising values.

For Example
Tags - adhoc or parent child relationships
Category - One or more categories from a category list/hierarchy 
Strict Category - One only categorie from a category list/hierarchy 
Subject -  One or more subjects from a subject list/hierarchy 
Strict Subject -  One only subject from a subject list/hierarchy 
Keywords - any number of words, not in the text that may provide an avenue 
to find the tiddler again

After using the above methods you can also design searches that operate 
across all values.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 12:16:26 AM UTC+10, Brady77 wrote:
>
> Dear members,
>
> you may have the same problem: the only way I can remember things is by 
> having some *context*. How such a context is created depends on how 
> people actually think. You may recall a person via a place where you met 
> before. Or a time frame combined with a place. And emotions, maybe. 
> Probably the most popular scheme for creating a context is 
> *classification*. People tend to create "boxes" for things because they 
> need some context (of course, to be able to rule those things later, but it 
> is a different story). What are we forced to use in the IT world are 
> *folders* and *tags*. Folders allow for creating a *hierarchy*, but don't 
> allow to have a thing (a tiddler) to be in more than one folder at the same 
> time - *just one context only*. Tags on the other hand are *flat* in 
> structure, but allow for *more than one context*. Tiddlywiki allows for a 
> combination: *tags hierarchy*. Great! So I developed a system of tags 
> that helps me recall things quickly. Just to show you what I mean by a 
> "system of tags":
>
> 1. Data format
>
> 1.1 Image
>
> 1.2 Webpage
>
> 1.3 Video
>
> 1.4  ...
>
> 2. Message form
>
> 2.1 Report
>
> 2.2 Tutorial
>
> 2.3 Overview
>
> 2.4 Promo
>
> 3. Topic
>
> 3.1 Business
>
>  3.1.1 Marketing
>
> 3.1.1.1 Content marketing
>
> 3.1.1.2 SEO
>
> 3.1.2 Trading
>
> 3.1.2.1 Stock
>
> 3.1.2.2 Cryptocurrency 
>
> 3.2 Art
>
> 3.2.1 Visual
>
> 3.2.1.1 Typography
>
> 3.2.1.2 Photography
>
> 3.2.1.3 Drawing
>
> 3.2.1.4 Architecture
>
> 3.2.2 Performing
>
> 3.2.2.1 Music
>
> 3.2.2.2 Movie 
>
> 4. Subject
>
> 4.1 TiddlyWiki
>
> 4.2 Cisco
>
> 4.3 Donald Trump
>
> 4.4 ...
>
>
> What I created is a kind of faceted classification 
> . Let me describe 
> my ideal workflow, now:
>
> Say I came across an interesting post on Medium: *How to write something 
> that people like to read. * I decided to save it into my TiddlyWiki. With 
> Tiddlyclip I created new tiddler and added some tags, too: ["Webpage", 
> "Tutorial", "Content marketing","Typography"].  
>
> A few weeks later I am writing a blog post to support my business, but I 
> don't know how to write an interesting copy. Is there anything interesting 
> in my TiddlyWiki? Let's have a look: First I would type "marketing" into 
> the *search bar*. Next I want to narrow the fulltext search output to 
> categories, so I choose "*show me tags only"*. By clicking on a 
> "Marketing" keyword it will be added to the *search filter*. Now I have a 
> *list 
> of filtered tiddlers* from the Marketing *category *and all 
> *subcategories*. Beside the list of tiddlers there is a *list of related 
> tags.* What if I want to narrow my search again? I just click on 
> "Tutorial" (from the related tags list) to add the tag to the filter. There 
> are now two tags with a logical AND operator. If my list of tiddlers is 
> 

[tw] Re: Faceted search

2018-04-05 Thread Brady77
Thanks, Jed. I did try your interface. Your basic idea (i.e. filtering by 
related tags) is exactly what I am looking for. Should you find the 
mentioned workflow more user-friendly I would be really glad if you can 
bring it to life. I cannot help you with coding, but will be at hand to 
discuss it further / test it.

Thank you Diego for your support. You have read my mind. Every note that I 
take is just a waste of time if I cannot find it within seconds. What is 
also interesting with the proposed workflow: while you filter your contexts 
/by adding and removing related tags/, you may uncover relations that *you 
didn't expect to be there*. "Exploring" your Wiki is probably close-fitting 
term for my workflow. An adventurous expedition while you play with related 
tags. Just a side note: Tiddlywiki is a very powerful system not only for 
storing data, but for searching and filtering as well. The only problem is 
that it is *too complicated* for me to exploit its full potential. 
Thankfully, there is generous community to help me. Maybe the TiddlyWiki 
documentation should exist in two versions: first one for regular users 
like me with little (or none) technical skills and the second version for 
coders like Jed that can make it even better. Diego I will be happy if you 
add your ideas regarding the interface to make it even better.

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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
What's happening internally is that an array is being sorted first one way 
and then another way in Javascript. Whether the ordering from the first 
sort is retained depends on how the particular browser implements sorting. 
That's why it doesn't work everywhere. I feel kind of relieved -- I knew 
there was some reason I went through all those coding gyrations!

I'm rethinking my suggestion. You can't just append the deadline date and 
the title because the deadline is in UTC. Well, maybe *you* can. That will 
probably work most of the time for you (you're fairly close to the 
international timeline, right?) But it might not quite work right if you 
stay up late or travel abroad. 

To work all the time, your button will need to:

1. List through ToDo and ToDoNow tiddlers, finding a set that each has a 
distinct day (using the each day operator). 
2. Then use those to find the current day (wikifying <$view format=date 
...>, let's call it curDay) . Then 
3. Then inside an inner loop look for all tiddlers with sameday 
4. Then fill in the sortby field with curDay & title.

Steps 1-3 are very close to what I attempted the first time. So it's just 
the last step that's novel.

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 1:49:39 PM UTC-7, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> It works :-)
> But only in my browser. I tried it before only on TiddlyDesktop.
> There on TiddlyDesktop it didn't work (that doesn't matter- I decided now 
> that I won't use TiddlyDesktop anymore- t slow when I work with several 
> programs).
> But also not on AndTidwiki on my Android. And there I'll use and need the 
> tasklist most...
>
> Hm, and now?
> Should I have to do it like Mark said? No other possibility?
> Or won't Marks suggestion with the additional field "due-title" work on 
> AndTidwiki too?
> Maybe you don't know that and I just have to try... :-(
> Surya
>

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[tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-05 Thread TonyM
Josiah,

I can see FAB anywhere?

With respect what are to talking about, it is hard to comment on something 
we cant see?

Tony

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 2:04:48 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> No one commented on FAB yet? Its a fab idea!
>
> I think it may need a little work cross-platform to work relaibly the 
> same, but the design and idea behind it is really excellent.
>
> Josiah
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] enhance regexp or new filter "pick"

2018-04-05 Thread Stephan Hradek
As usual:


   1. Drag & Drop the link 
    
   into your tiddlywiki.
   2. Import the library (link)
   3. Go to Settings ($:/ControlPanel)
   4. Click on Plugins
   5. Get more plugins
   6. Open my plugin library
   7. install
   


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
thanks Jed. I think its an interesting idea to pursue. I see if can 
understand how to do it.

Best
Josiah

On Thursday, 5 April 2018 21:55:59 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> The executable has everything that is in the repo on gitlab, so It has all 
> the core plugins and editions available. The ones listed are just the ones 
> I typed in before getting bored.
>
> New wikis are made using the the createNewWiki message that uses a 
> modified version of the builtin init command. You can set a path to look 
> for more plugins using environment variables in the same way as with the 
> normal node version. Fetching them from somewhere would probably be a 
> plugin by itself but it is possible.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to reveal where a missing tiddler is mentioned?

2018-04-05 Thread Mat

>
>
> try this: <$list 
> filter="[search[{{!!title}}]]"><>
>


I have no idea if the logic is correct, but the syntax is probably wrong. 
It should probably be; 

 <$list filter="[search{!!title}]"><>


<:-)

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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Thomas,

It works :-)
But only in my browser. I tried it before only on TiddlyDesktop.
There on TiddlyDesktop it didn't work (that doesn't matter- I decided now 
that I won't use TiddlyDesktop anymore- t slow when I work with several 
programs).
But also not on AndTidwiki on my Android. And there I'll use and need the 
tasklist most...

Hm, and now?
Should I have to do it like Mark said? No other possibility?
Or won't Marks suggestion with the additional field "due-title" work on 
AndTidwiki too?
Maybe you don't know that and I just have to try... :-(
Surya

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[tw] Re: How to tag separate paragraphs in different tiddlers and then transclude them?

2018-04-05 Thread 'Vytas' via TiddlyWiki
I am not sure, whether I should start a new discussion, so I'll ask the 
question the more experienced community members here:

Is it (in principle) possible to EDIT the text of a tiddler from the 
EDIT-WINDOW of some other tiddler? 
If it is in principle possible, could somebody describe what should I, in 
the first place, learn about TiddlyWiki fundamentals to be able to achieve 
something like that?

Thank you!

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[tw] Re: History: Is TiddlyWiki A Card-Index System?

2018-04-05 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao TonyM

Lovely reply. Actually I don't think we disagree at all. The point I was, 
centrally, trying to make was that TW is NOT inherently any kind of 
Card-Index. 

You CAN use it to construct Card Indices, no problem. And it is. And I 
think YOU were saying that? Right? That I agree with FULLY.

BUT. my key point was not opinion actually (despite some of my opinions 
around that)--rather it was focused on "what is the minimal unit in TW?" 
Its is certainly NOT a Card Index. Its a fragment before that. That 
fragment, Tiddler, can take on the guise of a Card Index but its basic 
state isn't one unless you intended that. Its just as much more like a note 
on the back of a fag packet :-).

Josiah , x

TonyM wrote:
>
> You say "2) [TW]  its native metaphor of basic data (fragments) are more 
> in-kin with "back-of-an-envelope" notes and "post-it-notes" of any size. 
> Card Index cards already have an implying of a series, a purposive 
> collection. Notes on scrap paper usually don't."
>
> That is your interpretation of TW "structure" or lack of, I do not share 
> this. I see it's potential both as unstructured and structured (multiple 
> alternatives).
>

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[tw] Links to external tiddler via static file?

2018-04-05 Thread David A. Gershman
Hello,

I'm setting up a collection of TiddlyWiki files (straight HTML, not
Node-based or anything special) and have a Tiddler I've been importing
to all of the TiddlyWiki files, which is a list of the TiddlyWiki
files.  Let me explain:

I'm creating several "Notebooks", each notebook is a single TiddlyWiki
file.  Currently, I have a "Notebooks" Tiddler which I maintain a list
of all the notebooks (with links to them).  I want this Tiddler in all
of my Notebooks.  To do so, everytime I update the "Notebooks" Tiddler
in a master file, I then need to import it to all of my other notebooks
TiddlyWiki files.

My hopeful solution, was to create this "Notebooks" Tiddler in a single
location, and just have every other notebook file /point/ to the "master
list".  So, given any Notebook TiddlyWiki file, when the user clicks on
the "Notebooks" tab or link, the TiddlyWiki file will not import, just
go pull the Tiddler from the master location.

For example, perhaps I am currently viewing /CoolInformation.html/ and
could have something like:

[ext[Notebooks|/path/to/master.html#ListOfNotebooks]]


However, this will open a new tab with the /master.html/ file.  I'm
wondering if there is a way to "pull" the "ListOfNotebooks" Tiddler for
viewing as if it was already in the /CoolInformation.html/ file?

Thanks!

--David

P.S. I've been putting HTML formatting in these emails.  Is this
acceptable?  Some mailing lists frown upon it and prefer strict text.


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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi again

O.k. we need the title: 

<$set name="listfilter" value="""[all[]tag[ToDo]][all[]tag[ToDoNow]] 
+[days:todo-deadline[17]] +[sort[title]sort[todo-deadline]]""">

My result:


If this is not what you want (sort by date, then by title = location), then 
maybe you want a list by location, then by date? 
In this case you would have to switch the sorts: 
*+[sort[todo-deadline]sort[title]]*

The sorts are kind of inverted, like in Excel. The last sort wins, but if 
the criterion is the same in the last sort, e.g. "12.04.2018", then the 
items with that identical attribute are still in the order of the previous 
sort. 

Hope that helps.
Cheers, Thomas


Am Donnerstag, 5. April 2018 21:46:52 UTC+2 schrieb Surya:
>
> Hello Thomas,
>
> I have been so happy reading your post :-) It would have been so easy...
> But... unfortunately it doesn't work on my wiki. The list is sorted by 
> todo-deadline, but then not by title.
>
> Maybe it is because of my titles??
> Every task begins like this:
>
>- K01: Text of task
>- K02: Text of task
>- K03: Text of task
>- 
>- K10: Text of task
>- K11: Text of task
>- K12: Text of task
>- and so on
>
> The beginning is the location, where I have to do it. Maybe, the problem 
> are the numbers?
> Surya
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Your boredom level I'd rather not know about :-) It makes me slightly 
nervous as i am extremely boring.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread Jed Carty
The executable has everything that is in the repo on gitlab, so It has all 
the core plugins and editions available. The ones listed are just the ones 
I typed in before getting bored.

New wikis are made using the the createNewWiki message that uses a modified 
version of the builtin init command. You can set a path to look for more 
plugins using environment variables in the same way as with the normal node 
version. Fetching them from somewhere would probably be a plugin by itself 
but it is possible.

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[tw] Re: Faceted search

2018-04-05 Thread Diego Mesa
I think this is a great idea. I've long thought that in a knowledge 
organization system like TW, search should be a FIRST CLASS entity! Things 
like a large, central search bar and meaningful navigation, and 
stratification of results as you've described.

I think something like this should 100% be the next TW priority!

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:16:26 AM UTC-5, Petr Bradáč wrote:
>
> Dear members,
>
> you may have the same problem: the only way I can remember things is by 
> having some *context*. How such a context is created depends on how 
> people actually think. You may recall a person via a place where you met 
> before. Or a time frame combined with a place. And emotions, maybe. 
> Probably the most popular scheme for creating a context is 
> *classification*. People tend to create "boxes" for things because they 
> need some context (of course, to be able to rule those things later, but it 
> is a different story). What are we forced to use in the IT world are 
> *folders* and *tags*. Folders allow for creating a *hierarchy*, but don't 
> allow to have a thing (a tiddler) to be in more than one folder at the same 
> time - *just one context only*. Tags on the other hand are *flat* in 
> structure, but allow for *more than one context*. Tiddlywiki allows for a 
> combination: *tags hierarchy*. Great! So I developed a system of tags 
> that helps me recall things quickly. Just to show you what I mean by a 
> "system of tags":
>
> 1. Data format
>
> 1.1 Image
>
> 1.2 Webpage
>
> 1.3 Video
>
> 1.4  ...
>
> 2. Message form
>
> 2.1 Report
>
> 2.2 Tutorial
>
> 2.3 Overview
>
> 2.4 Promo
>
> 3. Topic
>
> 3.1 Business
>
>  3.1.1 Marketing
>
> 3.1.1.1 Content marketing
>
> 3.1.1.2 SEO
>
> 3.1.2 Trading
>
> 3.1.2.1 Stock
>
> 3.1.2.2 Cryptocurrency 
>
> 3.2 Art
>
> 3.2.1 Visual
>
> 3.2.1.1 Typography
>
> 3.2.1.2 Photography
>
> 3.2.1.3 Drawing
>
> 3.2.1.4 Architecture
>
> 3.2.2 Performing
>
> 3.2.2.1 Music
>
> 3.2.2.2 Movie 
>
> 4. Subject
>
> 4.1 TiddlyWiki
>
> 4.2 Cisco
>
> 4.3 Donald Trump
>
> 4.4 ...
>
>
> What I created is a kind of faceted classification 
> . Let me describe 
> my ideal workflow, now:
>
> Say I came across an interesting post on Medium: *How to write something 
> that people like to read. * I decided to save it into my TiddlyWiki. With 
> Tiddlyclip I created new tiddler and added some tags, too: ["Webpage", 
> "Tutorial", "Content marketing","Typography"].  
>
> A few weeks later I am writing a blog post to support my business, but I 
> don't know how to write an interesting copy. Is there anything interesting 
> in my TiddlyWiki? Let's have a look: First I would type "marketing" into 
> the *search bar*. Next I want to narrow the fulltext search output to 
> categories, so I choose "*show me tags only"*. By clicking on a 
> "Marketing" keyword it will be added to the *search filter*. Now I have a 
> *list 
> of filtered tiddlers* from the Marketing *category *and all 
> *subcategories*. Beside the list of tiddlers there is a *list of related 
> tags.* What if I want to narrow my search again? I just click on 
> "Tutorial" (from the related tags list) to add the tag to the filter. There 
> are now two tags with a logical AND operator. If my list of tiddlers is 
> still too long, I may narrow it again by choosing "Content marketing". 
> Voila, my article is there! ;)
>
> Do you think it is feasible to create something like this? Something what 
> Amazon has on his pages - a faceted search. Sorry for my complicated 
> description.
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hello Thomas,

I have been so happy reading your post :-) It would have been so easy...
But... unfortunately it doesn't work on my wiki. The list is sorted by 
todo-deadline, but then not by title.

Maybe it is because of my titles??
Every task begins like this:

   - K01: Text of task
   - K02: Text of task
   - K03: Text of task
   - 
   - K10: Text of task
   - K11: Text of task
   - K12: Text of task
   - and so on

The beginning is the location, where I have to do it. Maybe, the problem 
are the numbers?
Surya

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[tw] Re: Faceted search

2018-04-05 Thread Jed Carty
While the interface you describe is much better than what I made (some 
improvements to to tiddlywiki since I made it would allow the sort of 
interface you are describing), I have something similar in my bookmarks 
plugin.

Look at the Bookmarks Sorted By Tags tab 
here 
https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/Bookmarks/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2FOokTech%2FBookmarks%2FBookmarks,
 
you select tags using the drop down menu.

There are a lot of improvements needed before it is as nice as what you 
describe, but it is possible.

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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Surya

In my test this works: 

<$set name="listfilter" value="""[all[]tag[ToDo]][all[]tag[ToDoNow]] 
+[days:todo-deadline[17]] +[sort[title]sort[todo-deadline]]""">


<$list filter=<> emptyMessage="<>">
   <>





I think you can even remove *sort[title] *as sorting by title might be the 
default. I get the same result without it in any case.

In my experience it is the best way to put the sorting steps in a separate 
"run" of the type AND according to 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Expression

And hey, it took me a while to grasp that concept ;–)

Good luck!
Thomas

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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You would just put a button at the top that says "Refresh Data."  An 
inconvenience, but not too difficult.

-- Mark

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 10:54:08 AM UTC-7, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> yes, like you mentioned, your code doesn't work (I tried it nevertheless, 
> just to see what it does). It sorts only by title. Also the "look" is 
> different.
>
> Your second suggestion with the button that creates a new field 
> "due-title":
> How could I update the fields of all tasks, before calling the 
> list-tiddler?
>
> Surya
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] enhance regexp or new filter "pick"

2018-04-05 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
I can't find your plugin library???

On Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:23:05 UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018 16:30:43 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>>
>> @Stephan
>>
>> Any news on this? Is your plugin created? Really looking forward to it 
>> and I think it will be very useful :-)
>>
>> https://skeeve.github.io/tw5-plugins/ 
>

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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Mark,

yes, like you mentioned, your code doesn't work (I tried it nevertheless, 
just to see what it does). It sorts only by title. Also the "look" is 
different.

Your second suggestion with the button that creates a new field "due-title":
How could I update the fields of all tasks, before calling the list-tiddler?

Surya

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[tw] Re: Work on Spaced Repetition System

2018-04-05 Thread Diego Mesa
Forgot to actually answer - All you have to do is make a new tiddler, tag 
it with the name of the "Deck" it belongs to (it can belong to multiple 
decks), tag it with "Flash Card", and give it a question and answer field. 

When I finish up some stuff at work, you guys have inspired me to come back 
and work on this again! 

Best,
Diego

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:17:58 AM UTC-5, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey thanks JD,
>
> You bring up a great missing feature right now. Cards are just tiddlers 
> that are tagged "flash card", with a question and answer field. 
>
> The other fields are (should be) automatically created, and in the final 
> plugin version would be hidden from the view template. 
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:23:03 AM UTC-5, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hey man, this is amazing work. Is there documentation for creating a new 
>> card (besides cloning existing ones)? 
>>
>> This is really helpful to my Nihongo studies!
>>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 6:58:04 AM UTC+9, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I mentioned in other places that I would be working on something like 
>>> this. Instead of polluting other threads, Ill post updates and misc in here 
>>> (though specific questions related to other things will still leak outside 
>>> of this thread!).
>>>
>>> So far, I've been reading 
>>>
>>> https://apps.ankiweb.net/docs/manual.html
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> https://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm
>>>
>>> And have come up with a *basic* design for now which will evolve. Right 
>>> now, I have questions as cards tagged with "Flash Card", and when you input 
>>> a new one, they begin with the following fields:
>>>
>>> question: 3+1
>>> answer: 4
>>> repetition: 1
>>>
>>> We then have two major parts:
>>>
>>>- Quizzer
>>>   - Shows a question
>>>   - Lets you rate its difficulty
>>>   - Calculate the next minimum time this question should be shown
>>>   - Selector
>>>- When you're ready to begin quizzing, get all questions whos time 
>>>   is up and are ready to be shown
>>>   
>>>
>>> So far I've worked on the quizzer (question/answering), and have a 
>>> template with the following content:
>>>
>>> \define againQuality() 0
>>> \define hardQuality() 1
>>> \define goodQuality() 2
>>> \define easyQuality() 3
>>> \define updateActions()
>>> 
>>> <$formula-vars eq="$(quality)$ + 1">
>>> <$action-setfield $field="eq" $value=<>/>
>>> <$formula-vars repetition="{{!!repetition}} + 1">
>>> <$action-setfield $field="repetition" $value=<>/>
>>> <$formula-vars due="<> + 20">
>>> <$action-setfield $field="due" $value=<>/>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-field" $param="state"/>
>>>
>>> 
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler"/>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[Flash Card]]">
>>> <$fieldmangler>
>>> Question: {{!!question}}
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[all[current]!has:field[state]]">
>>> <$button>
>>> Show Answer
>>> 
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="state"
>>> />
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[all[current]has:field[state]]">
>>> Answer: {{!!answer}}
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> <$button>
>>> Again
>>> 
>>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <$button>
>>> Hard
>>> 
>>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <$button>
>>> Good
>>> 
>>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <$button>
>>> Easy
>>> 
>>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> This will at least let you answer a question, and mark how hard/easy it 
>>> was for you, and calculate the relevant fields for the next time it should 
>>> be shown. 
>>>
>>> I still have to actually implement the correct calculations for due, eq, 
>>> etc. These are just place holders for right now. 
>>>
>>> The next piece is the selector, which will be responsible for going 
>>> through all questions "due" field and selecting the ones that are ready to 
>>> be shown - this should very straight forward. 
>>>
>>> Any comments/feedback is very welcome!
>>>
>>> Diego
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
AFAIK, there currently is no way to do a multiple sort this way. The last 
sort you invoke will win. In theory you should be able to use two nested 
lists, with the outer list issuing one tiddler per day and the inner list 
finding all tiddlers on the sameday (using the sameday operator). 
Unfortunately, it appears that the sameday operator might be buggy, or 
perhaps the ToDo application doesn't format dates correctly. I'll post my 
code here -- maybe someone can figure out what's wrong.

<$set name="listfilter" value="""[all[]tag[ToDo]][all[]tag[ToDoNow]] 
+[has[todo-deadline]days:todo-deadline[7]eachday[todo-deadline]sort[todo-deadline]]""">
<$set name="listfilter2" 
value="""[tag[ToDo]has[todo-deadline]sameday{!!todo-deadline}] 
[tag[ToDoNow]has[todo-deadline]sameday{!!todo-deadline}] +[sort[]]""">



<$list filter=<> emptyMessage="<>">
<$list filter=<> >

   <>







The other approach would be to use a button that creates a new field (maybe 
due-title) that concatenates the due date and the title. Then you could 
sort by due-title. The downside is that you have to update the fields 
before doing your listing.

Good luck!
Mark


On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 7:22:42 AM UTC-7, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I use the plugin ToDoNow (https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html) and added a 
> tiddler for showing me the overdue tasks and the tasks for today and the 
> next seven days with:
> <$set name="listfilter" value="""[all[]tag[ToDo]][all[]tag[ToDoNow]] 
> +[days:todo-deadline[7]sort[todo-deadline]]""">
>
> 
> <$list filter=<> emptyMessage="< 'Relax-Nothing-to-do'>>">
><>
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> Now I'd like to additionally sort the tasklist by title. It should be 
> sorted at first by todo-deadline and then by title.
> I tried it with
> <$set name="listfilter" value="""[all[]tag[ToDo]][all[]tag[ToDoNow]] 
> +[days:todo-deadline[7]sort[title]sort[todo-deadline]]""">
>
> 
> <$list filter=<> emptyMessage="< 'Relax-Nothing-to-do'>>">
><>
> 
> 
>
> 
>
> But that doesn't work.
>
>
> I tried to combine in different ways the original with this
>
>  <$list filter="[tag[Composers]each[surname]get[surname]sort[]]" 
> variable="name"> <$list 
> filter="[tag[Composers]surnamesort[middlename]sort[givenname]]">  
> <$link> <$view field="surname"/>, <$view field="givenname"/> <$view 
> field="middlename"/> 
>
> But they also didn't work.
>
>
> How can I write it, that the double sort works?
>
> Do you know any help for this?
> Thanks :-) Surya
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Jed & Kevin

FWIW, its quite easy in Windows to achieve the minimalisation, or hiding, 
of the "console" window.

But I think Jed is right that this is an issue for O/S specific wrappers. 
I'm not sure it should be his problem. But, rather people who use it and 
re-wrap it to support specific TW apps they are promoting???

Best wishes
@TiddlyTweeter 

On Thursday, 5 April 2018 09:44:31 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> In order:
>
> I am sure there is some way to make this run without a terminal opening, 
> but I suspect that it would require an additional wrapper on the 
> executable. I can look into it but I have the process for building these 
> automated because I don't use them (I have my wikis running on a server I 
> carry around) finding out the os-specific wrappers needed to suppress the 
> terminal is going to be a low priority.
>
> Tiddlers are saved individually right after editing them (but for now 
> drafts are not saved), so unless you kill the server almost immediately 
> after making a change everything should be saved, and even if you do kill 
> the server right after making a change only that change would be lost.
>
> Yes, it looks in the folder where the executable is. I have a usb stick 
> with all there executables on it and can plug it into a computer with 
> windows osx or linux and run it with the same wikis. The executable is just 
> the node version of tiddlywiki with the multiuser plugin packaged into a 
> single executable that give the wiki path as ./IndexWiki. There is a little 
> bit more that creates the index wiki if it doesn't already exist and to 
> open up the wiki automatically in the default browser, but as far as normal 
> operation goes it is the same. And if you want to use the wikis the normal 
> way using node they are just normal wikis.
>

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[tw] Re: Work on Spaced Repetition System

2018-04-05 Thread Diego Mesa
Hey thanks JD,

You bring up a great missing feature right now. Cards are just tiddlers 
that are tagged "flash card", with a question and answer field. 

The other fields are (should be) automatically created, and in the final 
plugin version would be hidden from the view template. 

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:23:03 AM UTC-5, JD wrote:
>
> Hey man, this is amazing work. Is there documentation for creating a new 
> card (besides cloning existing ones)? 
>
> This is really helpful to my Nihongo studies!
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 6:58:04 AM UTC+9, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I mentioned in other places that I would be working on something like 
>> this. Instead of polluting other threads, Ill post updates and misc in here 
>> (though specific questions related to other things will still leak outside 
>> of this thread!).
>>
>> So far, I've been reading 
>>
>> https://apps.ankiweb.net/docs/manual.html
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm
>>
>> And have come up with a *basic* design for now which will evolve. Right 
>> now, I have questions as cards tagged with "Flash Card", and when you input 
>> a new one, they begin with the following fields:
>>
>> question: 3+1
>> answer: 4
>> repetition: 1
>>
>> We then have two major parts:
>>
>>- Quizzer
>>   - Shows a question
>>   - Lets you rate its difficulty
>>   - Calculate the next minimum time this question should be shown
>>   - Selector
>>- When you're ready to begin quizzing, get all questions whos time is 
>>   up and are ready to be shown
>>   
>>
>> So far I've worked on the quizzer (question/answering), and have a 
>> template with the following content:
>>
>> \define againQuality() 0
>> \define hardQuality() 1
>> \define goodQuality() 2
>> \define easyQuality() 3
>> \define updateActions()
>> 
>> <$formula-vars eq="$(quality)$ + 1">
>> <$action-setfield $field="eq" $value=<>/>
>> <$formula-vars repetition="{{!!repetition}} + 1">
>> <$action-setfield $field="repetition" $value=<>/>
>> <$formula-vars due="<> + 20">
>> <$action-setfield $field="due" $value=<>/>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-field" $param="state"/>
>>
>> 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler"/>
>> \end
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[Flash Card]]">
>> <$fieldmangler>
>> Question: {{!!question}}
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[current]!has:field[state]]">
>> <$button>
>> Show Answer
>> 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="state"/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[current]has:field[state]]">
>> Answer: {{!!answer}}
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> <$button>
>> Again
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <$button>
>> Hard
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <$button>
>> Good
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <$button>
>> Easy
>> 
>> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> This will at least let you answer a question, and mark how hard/easy it 
>> was for you, and calculate the relevant fields for the next time it should 
>> be shown. 
>>
>> I still have to actually implement the correct calculations for due, eq, 
>> etc. These are just place holders for right now. 
>>
>> The next piece is the selector, which will be responsible for going 
>> through all questions "due" field and selecting the ones that are ready to 
>> be shown - this should very straight forward. 
>>
>> Any comments/feedback is very welcome!
>>
>> Diego
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Jed

This is a great bit of kit!

Am I right in thinking that at the moment the wikis listed under "Wiki 
Edition" ...



... are compiled into the executable?

I was wondering if it would be possible to have a "Wiki Template Gallery" 
that is outside the executable to copy boilerplate wikis from? They would 
not need be in the default install, just IF the Wiki Edition drop down 
could detect they are there and copy over?

Why am I interested in that? 

Because it helps support using your tool in many scenarios --- being able 
to provide "template TW" suited to different types of user group.

For instance, say I wanted to make a portable system for gamers, how can I 
give them some different types of game campaign structures to start from?

Basically, I think the integration of relevant "Wikis as templates" into 
tools like your multi-user, is exactly the way to go to connect with wider 
audiences. 

I'd rather not have to compile them into an executable IF they could just 
be held in (an optional) sub-dir that the Wiki-Edition could detect?

This is just a thought. I hope I'm being clear enough.

Ask if there is ambiguity.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to reveal where a missing tiddler is mentioned?

2018-04-05 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
 You could have a button process that runs 3 different list-based actions. 
The first one finds all the missing tiddlers and then creates them, tagging 
them with "Delete". The 2nd finds the backlink tiddlers and tags them with 
"HasMissing". The 3rd set deletes all tiddlers tagged with "Delete".

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[tw] Double sort of filtered list for ToDoNow

2018-04-05 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi,

I use the plugin ToDoNow (https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html) and added a tiddler 
for showing me the overdue tasks and the tasks for today and the next seven 
days with:
<$set name="listfilter" value="""[all[]tag[ToDo]][all[]tag[ToDoNow]] 
+[days:todo-deadline[7]sort[todo-deadline]]""">


<$list filter=<> emptyMessage="<>">
   <>






Now I'd like to additionally sort the tasklist by title. It should be 
sorted at first by todo-deadline and then by title.
I tried it with
<$set name="listfilter" value="""[all[]tag[ToDo]][all[]tag[ToDoNow]] 
+[days:todo-deadline[7]sort[title]sort[todo-deadline]]""">


<$list filter=<> emptyMessage="<>">
   <>





But that doesn't work.


I tried to combine in different ways the original with this

 <$list filter="[tag[Composers]each[surname]get[surname]sort[]]" 
variable="name"> <$list 
filter="[tag[Composers]surnamesort[middlename]sort[givenname]]">  
<$link> <$view field="surname"/>, <$view field="givenname"/> <$view 
field="middlename"/> 

But they also didn't work.


How can I write it, that the double sort works?

Do you know any help for this?
Thanks :-) Surya

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[tw] Re: [TW5] enhance regexp or new filter "pick"

2018-04-05 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Dienstag, 3. April 2018 16:30:43 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>
> @Stephan
>
> Any news on this? Is your plugin created? Really looking forward to it and 
> I think it will be very useful :-)
>
> https://skeeve.github.io/tw5-plugins/ 

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[tw] Re: Work on Spaced Repetition System

2018-04-05 Thread JD
Hey man, this is amazing work. Is there documentation for creating a new 
card (besides cloning existing ones)? 

This is really helpful to my Nihongo studies!

On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 6:58:04 AM UTC+9, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I mentioned in other places that I would be working on something like 
> this. Instead of polluting other threads, Ill post updates and misc in here 
> (though specific questions related to other things will still leak outside 
> of this thread!).
>
> So far, I've been reading 
>
> https://apps.ankiweb.net/docs/manual.html
>
> and
>
> https://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm
>
> And have come up with a *basic* design for now which will evolve. Right 
> now, I have questions as cards tagged with "Flash Card", and when you input 
> a new one, they begin with the following fields:
>
> question: 3+1
> answer: 4
> repetition: 1
>
> We then have two major parts:
>
>- Quizzer
>   - Shows a question
>   - Lets you rate its difficulty
>   - Calculate the next minimum time this question should be shown
>   - Selector
>- When you're ready to begin quizzing, get all questions whos time is 
>   up and are ready to be shown
>   
>
> So far I've worked on the quizzer (question/answering), and have a 
> template with the following content:
>
> \define againQuality() 0
> \define hardQuality() 1
> \define goodQuality() 2
> \define easyQuality() 3
> \define updateActions()
> 
> <$formula-vars eq="$(quality)$ + 1">
> <$action-setfield $field="eq" $value=<>/>
> <$formula-vars repetition="{{!!repetition}} + 1">
> <$action-setfield $field="repetition" $value=<>/>
> <$formula-vars due="<> + 20">
> <$action-setfield $field="due" $value=<>/>
>  
> 
> 
>
> 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-remove-field" $param="state"/>
>
> 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler"/>
> \end
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[Flash Card]]">
> <$fieldmangler>
> Question: {{!!question}}
> 
> 
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]!has:field[state]]">
> <$button>
> Show Answer
> 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="state"/>
> 
> 
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]has:field[state]]">
> Answer: {{!!answer}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> <$button>
> Again
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
> <$button>
> Hard
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
> <$button>
> Good
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
> <$button>
> Easy
> 
> <$action-setfield $field="quality" $value=<>/>
> <>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> This will at least let you answer a question, and mark how hard/easy it 
> was for you, and calculate the relevant fields for the next time it should 
> be shown. 
>
> I still have to actually implement the correct calculations for due, eq, 
> etc. These are just place holders for right now. 
>
> The next piece is the selector, which will be responsible for going 
> through all questions "due" field and selecting the ones that are ready to 
> be shown - this should very straight forward. 
>
> Any comments/feedback is very welcome!
>
> Diego
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] enhance regexp or new filter "pick"

2018-04-05 Thread Stephan Hradek
In case someone is interested: https://skeeve.github.io/tw5-plugins/

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[tw] Re: Feedback wanted for plugin idea: domain-specific backticks

2018-04-05 Thread Stephan Hradek
What about simply creating templates?

The notation then is a bit different. Instead og


`define: vector space` and `equation: α(u + v) = αu + αv`


you would need to write

{{vector space||define}} and {{α(u + v) = αu + αv||equation}}

For this you just need to define a tiddler called "define", containing

<>

and a tiddler equation containing

my great equation is (<>)

(as an example)







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[tw] Faceted search

2018-04-05 Thread Petr Bradáč
Dear members,

you may have the same problem: the only way I can remember things is by 
having some *context*. How such a context is created depends on how people 
actually think. You may recall a person via a place where you met before. 
Or a time frame combined with a place. And emotions, maybe. Probably the 
most popular scheme for creating a context is *classification*. People tend 
to create "boxes" for things because they need some context (of course, to 
be able to rule those things later, but it is a different story). What are 
we forced to use in the IT world are *folders* and *tags*. Folders allow 
for creating a *hierarchy*, but don't allow to have a thing (a tiddler) to 
be in more than one folder at the same time - *just one context only*. Tags 
on the other hand are *flat* in structure, but allow for *more than one 
context*. Tiddlywiki allows for a combination: *tags hierarchy*. Great! So 
I developed a system of tags that helps me recall things quickly. Just to 
show you what I mean by a "system of tags":

1. Data format

1.1 Image

1.2 Webpage

1.3 Video

1.4  ...

2. Message form

2.1 Report

2.2 Tutorial

2.3 Overview

2.4 Promo

3. Topic

3.1 Business

 3.1.1 Marketing

3.1.1.1 Content marketing

3.1.1.2 SEO

3.1.2 Trading

3.1.2.1 Stock

3.1.2.2 Cryptocurrency 

3.2 Art

3.2.1 Visual

3.2.1.1 Typography

3.2.1.2 Photography

3.2.1.3 Drawing

3.2.1.4 Architecture

3.2.2 Performing

3.2.2.1 Music

3.2.2.2 Movie 

4. Subject

4.1 TiddlyWiki

4.2 Cisco

4.3 Donald Trump

4.4 ...


What I created is a kind of faceted classification 
. Let me describe my 
ideal workflow, now:

Say I came across an interesting post on Medium: *How to write something 
that people like to read. * I decided to save it into my TiddlyWiki. With 
Tiddlyclip I created new tiddler and added some tags, too: ["Webpage", 
"Tutorial", "Content marketing","Typography"].  

A few weeks later I am writing a blog post to support my business, but I 
don't know how to write an interesting copy. Is there anything interesting 
in my TiddlyWiki? Let's have a look: First I would type "marketing" into 
the *search bar*. Next I want to narrow the fulltext search output to 
categories, so I choose "*show me tags only"*. By clicking on a "Marketing" 
keyword it will be added to the *search filter*. Now I have a *list of 
filtered tiddlers* from the Marketing *category *and all *subcategories*. 
Beside the list of tiddlers there is a *list of related tags.* What if I 
want to narrow my search again? I just click on "Tutorial" (from the 
related tags list) to add the tag to the filter. There are now two tags 
with a logical AND operator. If my list of tiddlers is still too long, I 
may narrow it again by choosing "Content marketing". Voila, my article is 
there! ;)

Do you think it is feasible to create something like this? Something what 
Amazon has on his pages - a faceted search. Sorry for my complicated 
description.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to reveal where a missing tiddler is mentioned?

2018-04-05 Thread Stephan Hradek
I'd like to understand the issue, soI've put your tiddler into a "New 
Tiddler" on tiddlywiki.com.

It shows 189 missing tiddlers, but the table is empty,

What do I need to do in order to see what you see?

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[tw] Re: [TW5]] Regexp to find tiddlers with a title of max length

2018-04-05 Thread Stephan Hradek
I do not completely understan your question.

But this is an explanation for regexp:


   - [\w{1,4}$]


   -   This would match almost ANY title, because you say: Find 1-4 
  characters at the end of the title.
   

   - [^\w{1,4}$]
  - This would match titles having 1-4 characters
  

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Re: [tw] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-04-05 Thread JD
Hi Bardy, thanks for the feedback! Yeah, looks like I forgot to test this 
with the different story views. 

I just updated the theme and now it should work with Zoomin view. I also 
changed how I applied the swiping ability. Plus, the image tiddlers are 
separated from the theme now (I don't want to overwrite core system 
tiddlers)

Please do tell if problems persist, and if you discover new ones :)

On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 5:52:50 PM UTC+9, bardy wrote:
>
> tried. very nice. you're genious
>
> some quick questions:
> I like zoomin mode, but if set storyview to "zoomin", the story width gets 
> bigger and bigger, and the bottom scroll bar appears. 
>
> and tried http://j.d.material.muri.tiddlyspot.com/, after click "V" "more 
> actions", the pop memu div is hiden under below tiddler. maybe add some 
> z-index?
> 1 load http://j.d.material.muri.tiddlyspot.com/
> 2 click + to add tiddler ,and type "test"
> 3 save
> 4 click V to see "more actions", and the pop memu div is hiden under below 
> tiddler. maybe add some z-index?
>
>

Thanks Josiah! Anybody with ideas to make this theme work better 
cross-platform, please do inform. My knowledge of both TW5 and CSS are very 
limited, and I haven't even started learning JS, meaning I'm not even aware 
of what could be made more efficient here lol


On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 1:04:48 AM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> No one commented on FAB yet? Its a fab idea!
>
> I think it may need a little work cross-platform to work relaibly the 
> same, but the design and idea behind it is really excellent.
>
> Josiah 

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[tw] [TW5]] Regexp to find tiddlers with a title of max length

2018-04-05 Thread Matthew Petty
The filter operator minlength is very useful, but I really want to find 
tiddlers with a title of a maximum length, and maxlength doesn't exist. For 
example to find missing tiddlers with only 4 or 5 character titles, which 
will most likely be abbreviations.

What would the filter for that be? I've tried 
regexp[\w{1,4}$]
but it doesn't work. I think what I need is to find tiddlers with a title 
between 1 and 4 characters, and "\w" is any alphanumeric character.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread Jed Carty
A setting to prevent the wiki from opening up automatically should be easy 
enough to add. I will add an issue on GitHub to add it.

And I am a bit surprised that anyone is using this consistently.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to reveal where a missing tiddler is mentioned?

2018-04-05 Thread Matthew Petty
That doesn't seem to work - it returns a long list of tiddler titles, but 
not ones that seem related to the missing one, or the tiddler containing 
the overall list.
It shows the same list of titles for every missing tiddler in the table, 
including $core. The list of titles returned go from $ to A to Z, but is 
not a list of all tiddlers in the wiki. They don't seem to have anything in 
common (tags etc).




On Thursday, 5 April 2018 12:57:02 UTC+4, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Matthew,
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:14:18 AM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:
>>
>>
>> Then I tried: <$list filter="[search[{{!!title}}]]">
>> But that returned a bunch of stuff I don't understand.
>>
>
> try this: <$list 
> filter="[search[{{!!title}}]]"><>
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: Populating the list field of a tiddler that is a tag

2018-04-05 Thread TonyM
Your Welcome Steve,

An Update on my note in the Previouse post. 

I said "note the has[fieldname] filter demands the field have a value, even 
one space character."

If you add the "suffix" we can say
has:field[fieldname]
will detect if the field exists with or without any value.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 7:02:10 AM UTC+10, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> Thanks, Tony, for the insights.And, for reminding me of the GenTags 
>  plugin; I'd lost 
> track of that one, and it is really helpful.  //steve.
>
> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 7:28:54 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Steven,
>>
>> I suppose the importance of the tag field is its supporting tools like 
>> tag pills, filters and tags as tiddlers. Personally I have started to 
>> reduce my use of tags in favour of reserving them for adhoc or hierarchical 
>> relationships.
>>
>> The list fields is a special case of using a field as a list of titles, 
>> where if you have drag-able lists, for example of items tagged with a 
>> specific tag you can set the order with drag and drop. Thus I leave it 
>> alone for that purpose.
>>
>> Even the existence of a field can act like a tag once you become familiar 
>> with field filters note the has[fieldname] filter demands the field have a 
>> value, even one space character.
>>
>> I am gradually starting to use custom fields, listops and tools rather 
>> than using too many tags. One use of using another field as a list of 
>> titles (not the tags or list fields) is for subjects or categories that 
>> differ from tags. Once a tag exists it is available to all tiddlers to tag 
>> them, if you use tags for subjects and categories it is not easy to tell 
>> the different functions of different tags unless you add this to the naming 
>> standard.
>>
>> Of late I am playing with Jeds GenTags plugin 
>>   
>> Which provides the partial equivalent of additional tags fields, which I 
>> am using for subjects and Categories, each additional field has its own 
>> list of candidate titles, rather than from all tags.
>>
>> I am starting to see limitations with the tabs widget, that may have 
>> something to do with your students issue, however your code snipit I would 
>> describe as "Populate a field with a list of titles" could help here.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing
>> I hope my perspective throws a little light on the subject.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Saturday, 24 March 2018 07:59:54 UTC+11, Steven Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>> Not a technical problem, a visual problem. He wanted to be able to leaf 
>>> through illustrations without shifting tiddlers, and the tabs approach 
>>> wasn't really doing it for him. Mostly: I'm interested here in 
>>> understanding how list field differs from tag field, and how they can be 
>>> used to accomplish different types of things. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 4:17:10 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:

 What was the problem with the <> approach? If it was just the sort 
 order, add a field "sortby" to each illustration with a double buffered 
 illustration number ("01", "02" ... "31" )

 Then 

 <>>> \\

  "$:/state/tab2" "tc-vertical">>

 should work.
  
 -- Mark

 On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 10:51:27 AM UTC-7, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> Hmm. Let me try again:
>
> At 
> http://tombofhorrors.tiddlyspot.com/#Illustrations:Illustrations%20Description
>  the 
> author uses <> to present images tagged with "Illustrations". This 
> is 
> ok, but not super ideal.  
> I suggested he create a new tiddler called "Show the Illustrations" 
> that made use of a list of tiddlers so that they could be identified and 
> sorted. The <> was of limited value, so I suggested he 
> might use the list field instead (We ultimately ended up developing a 
> tag-based 
> macro 
> 
>  instead 
> of using a list field...). 
>
> While exploring list fields, it was annoying to manually populate a 
> list field with every tagged tiddler, so we wrote that short one-time use 
> button script that essentially put the contents of the <> field 
> into 
> a <> field of a specified tiddler. (It was also a way to introduce 
> the use of the ActionListOps widget)(on reflection, there was probably a 
> faster way to copy the contents of the tag field of a tiddler into the 
> list 
> field of another tiddler, but I didn't think of that until now).
>
> Our discussion generated some interesting questions about the nature 
> of list fields, as well as the nature of the tags field, and when it was 
> useful / appropriate to use tags and when it was useful / appropriate to 
> use list fields. That's really my question. 
>
> Thanks for 

[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread TonyM
Jed,

I think the feature "open up the wiki automatically in the default browser" 
is a great feature especially on first run. I know have this launched at 
login to my Windows Box and a pinned tab for the index wiki.

In fact one feature of multi-user is I can open a wiki when needed and need 
not worry about accidental duplicate opens. 

As a result of this frequent use I would like to disable this open in 
default browser, is it practical for me to do so? Perhaps this could be a 
feature/Setting in future releases.

Thanks in Advance
Tony
 

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 5:44:31 PM UTC+10, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> In order:
>
> I am sure there is some way to make this run without a terminal opening, 
> but I suspect that it would require an additional wrapper on the 
> executable. I can look into it but I have the process for building these 
> automated because I don't use them (I have my wikis running on a server I 
> carry around) finding out the os-specific wrappers needed to suppress the 
> terminal is going to be a low priority.
>
> Tiddlers are saved individually right after editing them (but for now 
> drafts are not saved), so unless you kill the server almost immediately 
> after making a change everything should be saved, and even if you do kill 
> the server right after making a change only that change would be lost.
>
> Yes, it looks in the folder where the executable is. I have a usb stick 
> with all there executables on it and can plug it into a computer with 
> windows osx or linux and run it with the same wikis. The executable is just 
> the node version of tiddlywiki with the multiuser plugin packaged into a 
> single executable that give the wiki path as ./IndexWiki. There is a little 
> bit more that creates the index wiki if it doesn't already exist and to 
> open up the wiki automatically in the default browser, but as far as normal 
> operation goes it is the same. And if you want to use the wikis the normal 
> way using node they are just normal wikis.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Possible to reveal where a missing tiddler is mentioned?

2018-04-05 Thread PMario
Hi Matthew,

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 9:14:18 AM UTC+2, Matthew Petty wrote:
>
>
> Then I tried: <$list filter="[search[{{!!title}}]]">
> But that returned a bunch of stuff I don't understand.
>

try this: <$list 
filter="[search[{{!!title}}]]"><>

-m

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[tw] Re: Vorstellung meines Wikis: Anleitung für TW5 (f. blutige Anfänger) & Körperpflege/Reinigungsmittel palmölfrei selbst herstellen

2018-04-05 Thread Stephan Hradek
Okay…

Dann etwas freundlicher.

Du hast sicherlich viel Zeit und Mühe in den Inhalt Deiner Seite gesteckt. 
Leider kann ich das nicht richtig goutieren, alldieweil mir die farbliche 
Gestaltung Deiner Seite nicht konveniert.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Single executable version of tiddlywiki

2018-04-05 Thread Jed Carty
Kevin,

In order:

I am sure there is some way to make this run without a terminal opening, 
but I suspect that it would require an additional wrapper on the 
executable. I can look into it but I have the process for building these 
automated because I don't use them (I have my wikis running on a server I 
carry around) finding out the os-specific wrappers needed to suppress the 
terminal is going to be a low priority.

Tiddlers are saved individually right after editing them (but for now 
drafts are not saved), so unless you kill the server almost immediately 
after making a change everything should be saved, and even if you do kill 
the server right after making a change only that change would be lost.

Yes, it looks in the folder where the executable is. I have a usb stick 
with all there executables on it and can plug it into a computer with 
windows osx or linux and run it with the same wikis. The executable is just 
the node version of tiddlywiki with the multiuser plugin packaged into a 
single executable that give the wiki path as ./IndexWiki. There is a little 
bit more that creates the index wiki if it doesn't already exist and to 
open up the wiki automatically in the default browser, but as far as normal 
operation goes it is the same. And if you want to use the wikis the normal 
way using node they are just normal wikis.

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[tw] [TW5] Possible to reveal where a missing tiddler is mentioned?

2018-04-05 Thread Matthew Petty
I am going through and finding all my missing tiddlers. It's just a 
housekeeping thing - I don't know if it's worth it.

I have a table like this:
<$count filter="[all[missing]]"> missing tiddlers.




Missing



Linked to by


<$list filter="[all[missing]sort[date]random[10]]">

<$list filter="[list[Lists/Missing - Table with links]]" variable="mytag">
<$checkbox tag=<>> <>?


{{!!title||$:/core/ui/Buttons/edit}}  
<$link to={{!!title}}>
<$view field="title"/>



 WHAT GOES HERE





and a list of tags to use for the checkboxes: person abbreviation location 
org list tool role date

That gives a table with a random selection of 10 missing tiddlers, and 
checkboxes so I can easily set their tags so they show up in lists 
correctly (and this creates the tiddler at the same time).


What could I put in the last column to reveal which tiddler mentions the 
missing tiddler? I might want to go there and change it.

I tried: <>
But that returned nothing, because you can't backlink to something that 
doesn't exist.

Then I tried: <$list filter="[search[{{!!title}}]]">
But that returned a bunch of stuff I don't understand.

Any ideas?

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