date:20180425



On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 6:43:57 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
 

>
>- The truth is it is somehow hard to get away from quizzical looks 
>when I tell strangers about it, They think I said tiddlywinks and it 
>somewhat damages the authority that it should have.
>
>
When referring to it in the company of adults, I tend to refer to "TW" 
(tee-double-you) or "TW technology". Then the addressee feels sheepish 
because they don't know what "TW" refers to. 


-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

If you want to use it, go ahead. Putting something like "Derived from code 
by MAS" would be a nice touch. 

The whirlwind explanation for the bits of the code that matter. When you 
click on a link in the index (left side) a tiddler is set that is used by 
the panel on the right side. The problem is that the link has only 1 name, 
but since the target tiddler might be in an edited state, it may need to be 
invoked as "Draft of ". So the code takes the original link name, 
checks for the draft state, and accordingly displays with either the 
viewtemplate or the edittemplate. In addition, everything is wrapped 
internally with the navigation widget to prevent tiddlers from opening 
outside the TOC tree. Not sure how much of that will be needed for your 
concepts. Let me know if you have any questions.

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 6:57:33 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> By scenario I think you are referring to "Open in New Window" With the 
> ability to open the tiddler in the main story
>
> Given it works as a TOC but also provides in place editing, if we could 
> make it work on Open in New Window, On my Desktop I would have the outline 
> open and be able to either review the completed result but edit tiddlers in 
> the main browser window, or the reverse. It will certainly help working 
> with large numbers of tiddlers. It helps provide a powerful work 
> environment. Just open TableOfContents in a new window to see what I mean.
>
> The Truth is (as is common for me and TiddlyWiki) I can see a wide range 
> of possibilities I would like to pursue inspired by your code. I was 
> planing something in this direction for a very different reason - easy tabs.
>
> With your permission my I use and possibly rewrite your code towards these 
> new ideas? I will Include an acknowledgement if desired.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:29:58 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure what scenario you are thinking of.
>>
>> When you click on the indexed items in the TOC, a linkcatcher widget sets 
>> the value of a specified tiddler to the value of the link. That value is 
>> then used on the right side of the TOC to display the specified link 
>> tiddler. If you wanted to, you could make a separate tiddler that 
>> transcluded the tiddler previously specified. You could make that tiddler 
>> appear in it's own window. The thing is, I'm not sure what problem that 
>> solves.
>>
>> BTW, after one of your other posts, I realized that the "sortby" field 
>> isn't really necessary. Users can just use the tag pill to rearrange 
>> tiddler order among sibling tiddlers in the TOC.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 4:41:33 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I like this, it has a polished look and it helps the imagination of 
>>> whats possible grow, although simple in its own way.
>>>
>>> One somewhat powerful improvement would be to getting it fully working 
>>> on "Open in New Window" so it can be an Index to the side
>>>
>>>- With the ability to open the tiddler in the main story
>>>
>>> I have a few ideas I am exploring I plan to make it visible on any 
>>> tiddler if that tiddler has children with a toggle,
>>>
>>> I have a lot more ideas so if you want to develop it beyond its current 
>>> model "ping me"
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:13:39 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:

 This is an experimental TOC-based outliner for TW5.

 You will need the most recent TW (maybe it works in 5.1.14, but didn't 
 test).

 Your theme should be tweaked for a fluid story river and a fixed 
 sidebar. You will probably want to use it without the sidebar most of the 
 time.

 Probably you will want to use this in an empty TW, since it will litter 
 your TW with documentation tiddlers. Drag and drop the package into your 
 target TW5. If there is any popular response, maybe I will upgrade it to a 
 plugin.

 Start with the TWOutlier tiddler to learn more about the reasons and 
 usage for TWOutlier.

 Compared with commercial outliner projects, TWOutlier doesn't have as 
 many features, (thus it is an "outlier-outliner"), but does have these 
 advantages:

- Free (as in beer) 
- Doesn't need internet 
- Works on older tablets 
- Leverages TiddlyWiki Editor
- Should use images just like TW5

 It doesn't look as nice as the project Dave Gifford has going, but it 
 does have the advantage of allowing tiddlers to be edited right where they 
 are displayed. Links are internal to the TOC structure, helping to focus 
 attention inside the outline.

 Have fun,
 -- Mark

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-25 Thread Mohammad

Many thanks Jeremy!
I also hope you get back the full health as soon as possible.


Best regards
Mohammad

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:24:52 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:
>
> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls 
> the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
> French, German and Chinese translations
> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers 
> like 456 to ensure proper sorting
> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>
> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>
> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this 
> substantial release:
>
>- alexhough
>- anavarre
>- BramChen
>- BurningTreeC
>- diego898
>- flibbles
>- furicle
>- gernert
>- ibnishak
>- inmysocks
>- Marxsal
>- metebalci
>- mklauber
>- pmario
>- Skeeve
>- TheDiveO
>- tobibeer
>- twMat
>- xcazin
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

2018-04-25 Thread David Gifford

Hi Mark

Nice looking! And simply a very different tool - not to mention way more 
practical - than my little experiment.

I added this to the TiddlyWiki toolmap 
(https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM) under both the 'Navigation 
- table of contents' and the 'Writing and editing tools - Note taking' 
sections. The link is to this Google Group thread currently. If you give it 
a permanent location, let me know and I will gladly update the link.

Blessings, Dave

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 11:13:39 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This is an experimental TOC-based outliner for TW5.
>
> You will need the most recent TW (maybe it works in 5.1.14, but didn't 
> test).
>
> Your theme should be tweaked for a fluid story river and a fixed sidebar. 
> You will probably want to use it without the sidebar most of the time.
>
> Probably you will want to use this in an empty TW, since it will litter 
> your TW with documentation tiddlers. Drag and drop the package into your 
> target TW5. If there is any popular response, maybe I will upgrade it to a 
> plugin.
>
> Start with the TWOutlier tiddler to learn more about the reasons and usage 
> for TWOutlier.
>
> Compared with commercial outliner projects, TWOutlier doesn't have as many 
> features, (thus it is an "outlier-outliner"), but does have these 
> advantages:
>
>
>- Free (as in beer) 
>- Doesn't need internet 
>- Works on older tablets 
>- Leverages TiddlyWiki Editor
>- Should use images just like TW5
>
> It doesn't look as nice as the project Dave Gifford has going, but it does 
> have the advantage of allowing tiddlers to be edited right where they are 
> displayed. Links are internal to the TOC structure, helping to focus 
> attention inside the outline.
>
> Have fun,
> -- Mark
>

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[tw5] Re: Story to defaultTiddlers (Pull Request?)

Jan,

There is a way to get what you are after using a different workflow.

Open or have open all the tiddlers you want to reopen.

Use the Toolbar More > Permaview
You can simply book mark this to return to the same open set of tiddlers.

Or you can
No Go to the browser address bar and copy the whole thing

Eg:
http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html#TWOutlier:TWOutlier%20Home%20%5B%5BMake%20It%20Stick%5D%5D


Or perhaps you can 

Paste it into your home page with pretty link
[[MyView|http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html#TWOutlier:TWOutlier%20Home%20%5B%5BMake%20It%20Stick%5D%5D]]

Click on this to open in a new tab.

I am sure the is a way to get this to open in the current tab from a 
WikiLink.

Regards
Tony





On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:06:17 AM UTC+10, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello, 
> I made  a tiny button which inserts the Tiddlers of the storylist into the 
> defaultTiddlers-Field.
>
> <$set name="myStory" filter="[list[$:/StoryList]!tag[excludeStory]]">
> <$button>{{$:/core/images/save-button}} Story to Default
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/DefaultTiddlers" $value=<>/>
> 
> 
>
> I think this is very practical because you may not want to have dynamic 
> defaultTiddlers all the time but consolidate a special moment. 
> Because there is enough space in the $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Basics 
> 
>  
> below the defaultTiddlers-Field I would like to put it there. 
>
> And I would call the other button which sets the field to storyList 
> Dynamic Default Tiddlers.
>
> Does anyone else think this might be practical.
>
>
> Best wishes Jan
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

Yahoo,

Thanks Jeremy et al..

Love it.

Tony

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:54:52 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:
>
> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls 
> the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
> French, German and Chinese translations
> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers 
> like 456 to ensure proper sorting
> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>
> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>
> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this 
> substantial release:
>
>- alexhough
>- anavarre
>- BramChen
>- BurningTreeC
>- diego898
>- flibbles
>- furicle
>- gernert
>- ibnishak
>- inmysocks
>- Marxsal
>- metebalci
>- mklauber
>- pmario
>- Skeeve
>- TheDiveO
>- tobibeer
>- twMat
>- xcazin
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Sorting table of contents by multiple parameters

Fadel,

Any where you want you can extend access to the tag pill for opening or 
organising items with particular tags, my examples added this to the view 
template so it automatically appears on every tiddler.

Other wise add it to you wiki text as follows.

eg The Current Tiddler
{{||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}

or a particular tagname
{{tagname||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}

If the current tiddler is so tagged or not. That is all

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:59:33 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:
>
> I understand, but what I'm asking is isn't that functionality already 
> built into the default tiddlywiki?
>
> In the version that I'm using, which is the same as the version on the 
> main tiddlywiki.com page, if you tag tiddler A with another tiddler B, a 
> tag pill appears under the title, which you can click to display a list of 
> all tiddlers tagging tiddler B, which can be reordered by drag and drop.
>
> Is what you suggested any different? Maybe I'm missing something. 
>
> Regards.
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:42:38 AM UTC+3, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Fadel,
>>
>> The the code examples lets you create a "tag Pill" that appears on any 
>> tiddler that is used to tag other tiddlers. Thus you have immediate access 
>> to the tag pill such that you can reorder  them.
>>
>> Glad I could help
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 5:46:46 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> I had no idea I could re-arrange by drag and drop from the tag pill drop 
>>> down, thanks for the pointer!
>>>
>>> I couldn't think of a creative use for the code examples you gave 
>>> though. It seemed to me like the functionality is already built in?
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 4:27:19 AM UTC+3, TonyM wrote:

 Fadel,

 As a little side note/brain dump, since what you are doing here is 
 effectively altering the order of items tagging a given tiddler you can 
 use 
 the show as tag pill.

 {{TableOfContents||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}
 or use the macro
 <>

 The Popup list of items tagging TableOfContents is thus sort-able using 
 drag and drop, try it. I always install the Open All 
 plugin $:/plugins/ajh/openall (I am trying to locate the Source) which 
 adds 
 the ability to open all items so tagged from the Tag pill popup.
 Note: all tiddlers tagged with the current tiddler can also be found in 
 Info button tagging, however by default this is not drag-able (as yet).

 Once you have a populated list in the relevant tiddler eg 
 TableOfContents in the "list" field you could perhaps provide alternate 
 ways to sort the items in this list with a click. Alpha, date field etc.. 
 I 
 am yet to explore this in detail.

 If you use the macrocall method to invoke the tag macro you can make 
 this use the current tiddler
 <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>
 Thus this can be placed in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate to 
 appear in all tiddlers.

 Alternatively I have just placed <$macrocall $name="tag" 
 tag=<>/> in the core tiddler $:/
 core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle 
 NB: This will over ride the shadow tiddler.

 Wrapping it in the following, it will only show if the current tiddler 
 tags at least one tiddler.

 <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]limit[1]]" variable=null>
 <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>

 I hope this gives you some thing to play with.

 Regards
 Tony

 On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 2:32:03 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> From what I understand, the default sort for the table of contents is 
> by the *created* field. The *list* field overrides the sort by 
> putting the listed tiddler titles on top in listed order.
>
> What I'd like to achieve is to sort the contents by title, but keep 
> the ability of the *list* field to prioritize some of the tiddlers. 
> I'm not sure how to do this, since I'm not very familiar with the inner 
> workings. 
>
> The way I imagine it is by populating the *list *field as below
> list: Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 sort[title] Tiddler200 Tiddler300
>
> But of course, this doesn't work. Could anyone point me in the right 
> direction?
>

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

Mark,

By scenario I think you are referring to "Open in New Window" With the 
ability to open the tiddler in the main story

Given it works as a TOC but also provides in place editing, if we could 
make it work on Open in New Window, On my Desktop I would have the outline 
open and be able to either review the completed result but edit tiddlers in 
the main browser window, or the reverse. It will certainly help working 
with large numbers of tiddlers. It helps provide a powerful work 
environment. Just open TableOfContents in a new window to see what I mean.

The Truth is (as is common for me and TiddlyWiki) I can see a wide range of 
possibilities I would like to pursue inspired by your code. I was planing 
something in this direction for a very different reason - easy tabs.

With your permission my I use and possibly rewrite your code towards these 
new ideas? I will Include an acknowledgement if desired.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:29:58 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what scenario you are thinking of.
>
> When you click on the indexed items in the TOC, a linkcatcher widget sets 
> the value of a specified tiddler to the value of the link. That value is 
> then used on the right side of the TOC to display the specified link 
> tiddler. If you wanted to, you could make a separate tiddler that 
> transcluded the tiddler previously specified. You could make that tiddler 
> appear in it's own window. The thing is, I'm not sure what problem that 
> solves.
>
> BTW, after one of your other posts, I realized that the "sortby" field 
> isn't really necessary. Users can just use the tag pill to rearrange 
> tiddler order among sibling tiddlers in the TOC.
>
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 4:41:33 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I like this, it has a polished look and it helps the imagination of whats 
>> possible grow, although simple in its own way.
>>
>> One somewhat powerful improvement would be to getting it fully working on 
>> "Open in New Window" so it can be an Index to the side
>>
>>- With the ability to open the tiddler in the main story
>>
>> I have a few ideas I am exploring I plan to make it visible on any 
>> tiddler if that tiddler has children with a toggle,
>>
>> I have a lot more ideas so if you want to develop it beyond its current 
>> model "ping me"
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:13:39 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> This is an experimental TOC-based outliner for TW5.
>>>
>>> You will need the most recent TW (maybe it works in 5.1.14, but didn't 
>>> test).
>>>
>>> Your theme should be tweaked for a fluid story river and a fixed 
>>> sidebar. You will probably want to use it without the sidebar most of the 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Probably you will want to use this in an empty TW, since it will litter 
>>> your TW with documentation tiddlers. Drag and drop the package into your 
>>> target TW5. If there is any popular response, maybe I will upgrade it to a 
>>> plugin.
>>>
>>> Start with the TWOutlier tiddler to learn more about the reasons and 
>>> usage for TWOutlier.
>>>
>>> Compared with commercial outliner projects, TWOutlier doesn't have as 
>>> many features, (thus it is an "outlier-outliner"), but does have these 
>>> advantages:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Free (as in beer) 
>>>- Doesn't need internet 
>>>- Works on older tablets 
>>>- Leverages TiddlyWiki Editor
>>>- Should use images just like TW5
>>>
>>> It doesn't look as nice as the project Dave Gifford has going, but it 
>>> does have the advantage of allowing tiddlers to be edited right where they 
>>> are displayed. Links are internal to the TOC structure, helping to focus 
>>> attention inside the outline.
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

I believe Wiki cam from the Hawaiian language.


   - I am used to the name and understand the real cost of changing the 
   name, so are somewhat reluctant for this to happen. However I know there 
   comes a time.
   - The truth is it is somehow hard to get away from quizzical looks when 
   I tell strangers about it, They think I said tiddlywinks and it somewhat 
   damages the authority that it should have.
   - The fact is If I said Raspberry Pi  I would possibly get the same 
   looks, I imagine apple once caused this.
   - It is a short 4 syllable name with each being quite "sharp" and the 
   mouth does not roll onto the next syllable try thinking about the 
   transition by saying 121c vs  tid lee wick ee
   
Other discussions in this forum of late have discussed the shear complexity 
of describing tiddlywiki due to its diverse nature. We do need to have 
distinct focus areas or we will only attract those who stumble on it from a 
related keyword or work of mouth.
 

Without starting a Guessing Competition I would think a word 
like Chameleon  combined with a suitable IT related word like 
info-chameleon cloud-chameleon. 
All the big brands in the world become somewhat obscure/abstract because 
they do not want the name to suggest too much when they actually provide 
many products and services.
In some ways that is what tiddlyWiki does, it is a Wiki, the best wiki, but 
it is much more.

Regards
Tony




On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:39:41 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Lost Admin wrote:
>>
>> For me TiddlyWiki is a wiki. To me, the defining characteristic is that a 
>> wiki is a self-editing website. That is the content can be edited directly 
>> on/from/in the website itself...
>>
>
> Absolutely right IMO. But its also more, I think ... if "self-editing" 
> includes "serious self-coding". AFAIK, the dynamic reformulation of the 
> "Wiki Workings" in TiddlyWiki is somewhat more than self-editing?
>
> What I am trying to get at is not so much what is shared with "Wikis"--it 
> is what is different (an evolution)?
>
> J.
>

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[tw5] Re: discussion: codemirror editor and improved indentation handling

Thomas,

Are you inserting the above in a stylesheet then entering tabs with the 
code mirror editor.

Because when I do it does not seem to honour the tabs in the text in view 
mode.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:24:48 AM UTC+10, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Mario and Tony
>
> Just a short note on tab styling. In my design approach on 
> https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html
> I use the following CSS to see tab indenting everywhere:
>
> body {
> -moz-tab-size: 3;
> tab-size: 3;
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas 
>
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[tw5] Re: ckeditor 4.9.2 blank edit mode

armlet

In case its CSS try selecting the non existent text, if you can hightlight 
or copy text it may be white on white. If so you could use the browser 
developer tools to inspect the text and locate the CSS class causing this.


Regards
Tony

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:03:43 AM UTC+10, armlet wrote:
>
> I am using BJ's plugin ($:/plugins/bj/visualeditor 1.11.0) and local 
> ckeditor library.
> I just downloaded the latest ckeditor 4.9.2 today.
> The text/x-htmlp type tiddlers display correctly in render mode. But it 
> shows blank edit area in edit mode. The edit area is just plain blank, not 
> even a 'loading ckeditor' message.
> Any ideas how to fix it?
> I have to revert back to the previous version 4.8 before having a solution.
> Thanks in advance.
>

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

I'm not sure what scenario you are thinking of.

When you click on the indexed items in the TOC, a linkcatcher widget sets 
the value of a specified tiddler to the value of the link. That value is 
then used on the right side of the TOC to display the specified link 
tiddler. If you wanted to, you could make a separate tiddler that 
transcluded the tiddler previously specified. You could make that tiddler 
appear in it's own window. The thing is, I'm not sure what problem that 
solves.

BTW, after one of your other posts, I realized that the "sortby" field 
isn't really necessary. Users can just use the tag pill to rearrange 
tiddler order among sibling tiddlers in the TOC.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 4:41:33 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I like this, it has a polished look and it helps the imagination of whats 
> possible grow, although simple in its own way.
>
> One somewhat powerful improvement would be to getting it fully working on 
> "Open in New Window" so it can be an Index to the side
>
>- With the ability to open the tiddler in the main story
>
> I have a few ideas I am exploring I plan to make it visible on any tiddler 
> if that tiddler has children with a toggle,
>
> I have a lot more ideas so if you want to develop it beyond its current 
> model "ping me"
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:13:39 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> This is an experimental TOC-based outliner for TW5.
>>
>> You will need the most recent TW (maybe it works in 5.1.14, but didn't 
>> test).
>>
>> Your theme should be tweaked for a fluid story river and a fixed sidebar. 
>> You will probably want to use it without the sidebar most of the time.
>>
>> Probably you will want to use this in an empty TW, since it will litter 
>> your TW with documentation tiddlers. Drag and drop the package into your 
>> target TW5. If there is any popular response, maybe I will upgrade it to a 
>> plugin.
>>
>> Start with the TWOutlier tiddler to learn more about the reasons and 
>> usage for TWOutlier.
>>
>> Compared with commercial outliner projects, TWOutlier doesn't have as 
>> many features, (thus it is an "outlier-outliner"), but does have these 
>> advantages:
>>
>>
>>- Free (as in beer) 
>>- Doesn't need internet 
>>- Works on older tablets 
>>- Leverages TiddlyWiki Editor
>>- Should use images just like TW5
>>
>> It doesn't look as nice as the project Dave Gifford has going, but it 
>> does have the advantage of allowing tiddlers to be edited right where they 
>> are displayed. Links are internal to the TOC structure, helping to focus 
>> attention inside the outline.
>>
>> Have fun,
>> -- Mark
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

Mark,

I like this, it has a polished look and it helps the imagination of whats 
possible grow, although simple in its own way.

One somewhat powerful improvement would be to getting it fully working on 
"Open in New Window" so it can be an Index to the side

   - With the ability to open the tiddler in the main story

I have a few ideas I am exploring I plan to make it visible on any tiddler 
if that tiddler has children with a toggle,

I have a lot more ideas so if you want to develop it beyond its current 
model "ping me"

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 2:13:39 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This is an experimental TOC-based outliner for TW5.
>
> You will need the most recent TW (maybe it works in 5.1.14, but didn't 
> test).
>
> Your theme should be tweaked for a fluid story river and a fixed sidebar. 
> You will probably want to use it without the sidebar most of the time.
>
> Probably you will want to use this in an empty TW, since it will litter 
> your TW with documentation tiddlers. Drag and drop the package into your 
> target TW5. If there is any popular response, maybe I will upgrade it to a 
> plugin.
>
> Start with the TWOutlier tiddler to learn more about the reasons and usage 
> for TWOutlier.
>
> Compared with commercial outliner projects, TWOutlier doesn't have as many 
> features, (thus it is an "outlier-outliner"), but does have these 
> advantages:
>
>
>- Free (as in beer) 
>- Doesn't need internet 
>- Works on older tablets 
>- Leverages TiddlyWiki Editor
>- Should use images just like TW5
>
> It doesn't look as nice as the project Dave Gifford has going, but it does 
> have the advantage of allowing tiddlers to be edited right where they are 
> displayed. Links are internal to the TOC structure, helping to focus 
> attention inside the outline.
>
> Have fun,
> -- Mark
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Story to defaultTiddlers (Pull Request?)

2018-04-25 Thread Jan

Hi Mario,
Thanks for your answer.
i would not mind having simply "[list[$:/StoryList]]" as a filter to
set the default Tiddlers. After all you can still control them manually
afterwards.

What do you mean by writing: That is plugin-territory. The Problem is
that a plugin would have to change a core ControlPanel.

Greetings Jan

Am 25.04.2018 um 10:59 schrieb PMario:

Hi,

I do like the idea, but this proposal, as it is, is "plugin-territory"!

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 11:06:17 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote:

<$set name="myStory" filter="[list[$:/StoryList]!tag[excludeStory]]">

For me the problem is: excludeStory tag.

We had a lot of problems with TiddlyWikiClassic and all the different
"excludeXXX" tags. ... because in the end you need to tag the
"excludeXXX" tag tiddler with "excludeFromLists" ... and so on.

The second problem with this tag is, that if I do import your
"excludeStory" tagged tiddler to my TW, I may expect it to be gone,
because I may want, that it is part of the defaultTiddlers .. and so
on ... and so on.

So for me this is a real "show stopper" for the core.

just my 2 cents.
-m
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[tw5] Re: Customice font sice of sidebar

Xabriña,

What part of the sideBar are you talking about because there are a number 
of places, and sizes there. eg SideBar Tab title/Content etc...

Where exactly is this problem of yours occurring?

It will be easier to help with more info

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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

Hi Maarten
> 
> how can I update a TW running with Node.JS?

There are some instructions here:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Maarten
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:54:52 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of TiddlyWiki.
>> 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>> 
>> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>> 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>> 
>> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:
>> 
>> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
>> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
>> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls 
>> the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
>> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
>> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
>> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
>> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
>> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
>> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
>> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
>> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
>> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
>> French, German and Chinese translations
>> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers like 
>> 456 to ensure proper sorting
>> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>> 
>> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>> 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>> 
>> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this 
>> substantial release:
>> alexhough
>> anavarre
>> BramChen
>> BurningTreeC
>> diego898
>> flibbles
>> furicle
>> gernert
>> ibnishak
>> inmysocks
>> Marxsal
>> metebalci
>> mklauber
>> pmario
>> Skeeve
>> TheDiveO
>> tobibeer
>> twMat
>> xcazin
>> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-25 Thread Diego Mesa

Jeremy,

Congrats! Im honored to have my name there! Thank you to everyone who keeps 
working on this great tool! 

Diego

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:54:52 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:
>
> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls 
> the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
> French, German and Chinese translations
> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers 
> like 456 to ensure proper sorting
> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>
> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>
> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this 
> substantial release:
>
>- alexhough
>- anavarre
>- BramChen
>- BurningTreeC
>- diego898
>- flibbles
>- furicle
>- gernert
>- ibnishak
>- inmysocks
>- Marxsal
>- metebalci
>- mklauber
>- pmario
>- Skeeve
>- TheDiveO
>- tobibeer
>- twMat
>- xcazin
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

It certainly *looks* broken, but per this part of the text:


The Action Send Message Widget 
>  joins all the tags into 
> one large tag. The Action Set Field Widget 
>  appends the tags as 
> individual tags.


It's actually doing what it should be doing.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:23:10 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> Darn. Very last example  for 
> CheckBoxWidget produces faulty tags. Hope it is the example doc and not the 
> widget.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-25 Thread Maarten

thanks Jeremy,

how can I update a TW running with Node.JS?

Maarten


On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:54:52 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:
>
> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls 
> the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
> French, German and Chinese translations
> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers 
> like 456 to ensure proper sorting
> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>
> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>
> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this 
> substantial release:
>
>- alexhough
>- anavarre
>- BramChen
>- BurningTreeC
>- diego898
>- flibbles
>- furicle
>- gernert
>- ibnishak
>- inmysocks
>- Marxsal
>- metebalci
>- mklauber
>- pmario
>- Skeeve
>- TheDiveO
>- tobibeer
>- twMat
>- xcazin
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-25 Thread Maarten

thanks Jermey,

where can I find an instruction how to update TW from 5.1.15 to 5.1.16 
running with Node.JS?

Maarten

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:54:52 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:
>
> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls 
> the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
> French, German and Chinese translations
> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers 
> like 456 to ensure proper sorting
> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>
> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>
> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this 
> substantial release:
>
>- alexhough
>- anavarre
>- BramChen
>- BurningTreeC
>- diego898
>- flibbles
>- furicle
>- gernert
>- ibnishak
>- inmysocks
>- Marxsal
>- metebalci
>- mklauber
>- pmario
>- Skeeve
>- TheDiveO
>- tobibeer
>- twMat
>- xcazin
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-25 Thread Mat

Darn. Very last example  for 
CheckBoxWidget produces faulty tags. Hope it is the example doc and not the 
widget.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-25 Thread Mat

Sooo much goodness.

Thank you Jeremy!!!

<:-)

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[tw5] Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-25 Thread Ste Wilson

YAY! 
Thanks for all the effort you put into this. Hope the elbow improves. 

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[tw5] Re: TopStoryView plugon with no icon!

2018-04-25 Thread Mohammad

Thank you Mat!

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:15:06 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad
>
> in the just-about-to-be-released-update there is an improvement that 
> renders that plugin unnecessary:
>
>>
>>- Simplified 
>>
>> 
>>  the 
>>page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls the top of 
>>the tiddler to the top of the viewport
>>
>> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of TiddlyWiki.

https://tiddlywiki.com/ 

Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:

https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html 

There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:

* “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
* A new “range” widget for creating sliders
* Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls the 
top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
* Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
* Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
* Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
* A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
* A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
* A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
* Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
* Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
* New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
French, German and Chinese translations
* A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers like 
456 to ensure proper sorting
* Tweaked, more readable font settings

Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases

My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this substantial 
release:
alexhough
anavarre
BramChen
BurningTreeC
diego898
flibbles
furicle
gernert
ibnishak
inmysocks
Marxsal
metebalci
mklauber
pmario
Skeeve
TheDiveO
tobibeer
twMat
xcazin
As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to edit menus

Hi Morgaine, and welcome here :)

The Muuri plugin originally comes from Uwe Stuehler, but I made the version
you find on muritest.tiddlyspot.com or tiddlytouch.tiddlyspot.com, the
first is the demo page, the latter is the plugin page...

I believe you intend the filtering function, is that right? Selecting only
some tiddlers and hiding the others?

Large parts of that are handled by the muuri plugin and not by tiddlywiki
itself, though it's possible to do with wikitext only, too, just not
exactly like shown on haltu.github.io/muuri

Look at http://tiddlytouch.tiddlyspot.com - in the sidebar I've enabled the
search field to filter the tiddlers using the search input... If you insert
a search expression in the search field and then click the button that
looks kinda like an antenna, the tiddlers get filtered and only the ones
which match the search are shown

Are you looking for a way to implement that on your page using a dropdown
or similar?

all the best,
Simon

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to edit menus

2018-04-25 Thread Morgaine O'Herne

Thanks, that did help. I have my tagpills all labelled.
 Now what I want to do (if you saw my second comment), is make all the
items with a tagpill's tag come up, and everything else go away. Like this
demo: https://haltu.github.io/muuri/
How do I do that?

Much thanks in advance,
Morgaine

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Ton Gerner  wrote:

> Hi Morgaine,
>
> See the Help of both plugins:
>
> 1) Control panel > Plugins > tab Plugins
> 2) Click '>' at the plugin
> 3) Click the tab Help and read that.
>
> Extended information can be found at:
>
> http://tw5topmenu.tiddlyspot.com/
> http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Ton
>
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[tw5] ckeditor 4.9.2 blank edit mode

2018-04-25 Thread armlet

I downloaded the latest ckeditor 4.9.2.
The text/x-htmlp type tiddlers display correctly in render mode. But it 
shows blank edit area in edit mode.
Any ideas how to fix it?
I have to revert back to the previous version 4.8 before having a solution.
Thanks in advance.

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[tw5] Re: Sorting table of contents by multiple parameters

I understand, but what I'm asking is isn't that functionality already built 
into the default tiddlywiki?

In the version that I'm using, which is the same as the version on the main 
tiddlywiki.com page, if you tag tiddler A with another tiddler B, a tag 
pill appears under the title, which you can click to display a list of all 
tiddlers tagging tiddler B, which can be reordered by drag and drop.

Is what you suggested any different? Maybe I'm missing something. 

Regards.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:42:38 AM UTC+3, TonyM wrote:
>
> Fadel,
>
> The the code examples lets you create a "tag Pill" that appears on any 
> tiddler that is used to tag other tiddlers. Thus you have immediate access 
> to the tag pill such that you can reorder  them.
>
> Glad I could help
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 5:46:46 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> I had no idea I could re-arrange by drag and drop from the tag pill drop 
>> down, thanks for the pointer!
>>
>> I couldn't think of a creative use for the code examples you gave though. 
>> It seemed to me like the functionality is already built in?
>>
>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 4:27:19 AM UTC+3, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Fadel,
>>>
>>> As a little side note/brain dump, since what you are doing here is 
>>> effectively altering the order of items tagging a given tiddler you can use 
>>> the show as tag pill.
>>>
>>>
>>> {{TableOfContents||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}
>>> or use the macro
>>> <>
>>>
>>> The Popup list of items tagging TableOfContents is thus sort-able using 
>>> drag and drop, try it. I always install the Open All 
>>> plugin $:/plugins/ajh/openall (I am trying to locate the Source) which adds 
>>> the ability to open all items so tagged from the Tag pill popup.
>>> Note: all tiddlers tagged with the current tiddler can also be found in 
>>> Info button tagging, however by default this is not drag-able (as yet).
>>>
>>> Once you have a populated list in the relevant tiddler eg 
>>> TableOfContents in the "list" field you could perhaps provide alternate 
>>> ways to sort the items in this list with a click. Alpha, date field etc.. I 
>>> am yet to explore this in detail.
>>>
>>> If you use the macrocall method to invoke the tag macro you can make 
>>> this use the current tiddler
>>> <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>
>>> Thus this can be placed in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate to 
>>> appear in all tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Alternatively I have just placed <$macrocall $name="tag" 
>>> tag=<>/> in the core tiddler $:/
>>> core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle 
>>> NB: This will over ride the shadow tiddler.
>>>
>>> Wrapping it in the following, it will only show if the current tiddler 
>>> tags at least one tiddler.
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]limit[1]]" variable=null>
>>> <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I hope this gives you some thing to play with.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 2:32:03 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:

 Hi,

 From what I understand, the default sort for the table of contents is 
 by the *created* field. The *list* field overrides the sort by putting 
 the listed tiddler titles on top in listed order.

 What I'd like to achieve is to sort the contents by title, but keep the 
 ability of the *list* field to prioritize some of the tiddlers. I'm 
 not sure how to do this, since I'm not very familiar with the inner 
 workings. 

 The way I imagine it is by populating the *list *field as below
 list: Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 sort[title] Tiddler200 Tiddler300

 But of course, this doesn't work. Could anyone point me in the right 
 direction?

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Sorting table of contents by multiple parameters

Yeah I tried that one, but I wasn't able to adapt it to my use case. It 
seems to be easy to adapt for a specific standard sort criteria 
(title,created,modified...), but isn't clear on how to use it to achieve a 
manual "list" sort.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:04:07 AM UTC+3, Mark S. wrote:
>
> OK, there is another way, if you don't mind putting sort criteria in your 
> tiddlers. See:
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20change%20the%20sort%20order%20of%20sub-branches%20in%20a%20TOC%20macro
>
> for details.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 3:31:01 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I think you would have to re-write the macro. There is a sort argument 
>> for the macro, but it would get applied at every sub-level so wouldn't be 
>> useful unless you only have one level of tiddlers.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 1:04:04 PM UTC-7, Fadel M wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for replying! That's a good way to do it.
>>>
>>> Ah, so there's no way to do it without excluding the unsorted tiddlers 
>>> from the sort?
>>> I can't understand how the default sort does it though. You just have to 
>>> write the name of the tiddlers you want first in the *list* field, and 
>>> the rest are automatically sorted by *created*. Is it just that it's a 
>>> more low level thing than toc macros?
>>>
>>> Also, while this solution is more than enough for my purposes, I'm 
>>> curious as to whether there is a way to do it automatically without a 
>>> button? Perhaps by modifying the way the macro works?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC+3, Mark S. wrote:

 If you want to use the existing toc macros then you will need to modify 
 the list field of your root (top) tiddler.  Here's an example that 
 rearranges the default listing for HelloThere on tiddlywiki.com, :-) 
 putting Examples first, and Discover TiddlyWiki last.

 <$button> <$action-listops $tiddler=HelloThere $field="list" 
 $filter="Examples [tag[HelloThere]![Examples]![Discover TiddlyWiki]sort[]] 
 [[Discover TiddlyWiki]]"/> Populate 'myfield'  


 For your situation,  you will need some way to discriminate sorted 
 tiddlers from non- sorted tiddlers. Then you can use a filter in your 
 button like

 Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 [tag[sorted]sort[title]] Tiddler200 

 --Mark
 On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 9:32:03 AM UTC-7, Fadel M wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> From what I understand, the default sort for the table of contents is 
> by the *created* field. The *list* field overrides the sort by 
> putting the listed tiddler titles on top in listed order.
>
> What I'd like to achieve is to sort the contents by title, but keep 
> the ability of the *list* field to prioritize some of the tiddlers. 
> I'm not sure how to do this, since I'm not very familiar with the inner 
> workings. 
>
> The way I imagine it is by populating the *list *field as below
> list: Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 sort[title] Tiddler200 Tiddler300
>
> But of course, this doesn't work. Could anyone point me in the right 
> direction?
>


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[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

Lost Admin wrote:
>
> For me TiddlyWiki is a wiki. To me, the defining characteristic is that a 
> wiki is a self-editing website. That is the content can be edited directly 
> on/from/in the website itself...
>

Absolutely right IMO. But its also more, I think ... if "self-editing" 
includes "serious self-coding". AFAIK, the dynamic reformulation of the 
"Wiki Workings" in TiddlyWiki is somewhat more than than self-editing?

What I am trying to get at is not so much what is shared with "Wikis"--it 
is what is different (an evolution)?

J.

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[tw5] discussion: codemirror editor and improved indentation handling

2018-04-25 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Hi Mario and Tony

Just a short note on tab styling. In my design approach on 
https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html
I use the following CSS to see tab indenting everywhere:

body {
-moz-tab-size: 3;
tab-size: 3;
}

Cheers,
Thomas 

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[tw5] TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

This is an experimental TOC-based outliner for TW5.

You will need the most recent TW (maybe it works in 5.1.14, but didn't
test).

Your theme should be tweaked for a fluid story river and a fixed sidebar.
You will probably want to use it without the sidebar most of the time.

Probably you will want to use this in an empty TW, since it will litter
your TW with documentation tiddlers. Drag and drop the package into your
target TW5. If there is any popular response, maybe I will upgrade it to a
plugin.

Start with the TWOutlier tiddler to learn more about the reasons and usage
for TWOutlier.

Compared with commercial outliner projects, TWOutlier doesn't have as many
features, (thus it is an "outlier-outliner"), but does have these
advantages:

- Free (as in beer)
- Doesn't need internet
- Works on older tablets
- Leverages TiddlyWiki Editor
- Should use images just like TW5

It doesn't look as nice as the project Dave Gifford has going, but it does
have the advantage of allowing tiddlers to be edited right where they are
displayed. Links are internal to the TOC structure, helping to focus
attention inside the outline.

Have fun,
-- Mark

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Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

2018-04-25 Thread Lost Admin

For me TiddlyWiki is a wiki. To me, the defining characteristic is that a 
wiki is a self-editing website. That is the content can be edited directly 
on/from/in the website itself. While collaboration is certainly very 
common, I don't view this as "core" to my internal definition of "wiki" 
(although I believe it is considered to be core in most definitions).

I have no opinion on the name changing or staying the same.

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[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

PMario wrote:
Then use: It's a personal web notebook.

Because TiddlyWiki is NOT intrinsically a personal notebook. 

Its a Vole Tracker Collaboration Project :-)

What happens is when I ask "WHAT is TiddlyWiki" I get AN APPLICATION reply.

In a way its good. In another way its, somehow, VERY incorrect.

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

On the prerelease I am listed as @inmysock instead of @inmysocks so it 
points to a non-existent GitHub user. As much as I enjoy that I should 
probably change it. Is it easier for you if I make a pull request with the 
change?

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Re: [tw5] Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

Hi Josiah


> By way of background the question ...
> 
> Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is seen as a "Wiki"?
> 
> 1 - It seems to be VERY different to other "Wiki" systems in its fundamental 
> workings & potential.

The obvious characteristic of a wiki is that anyone can edit it. However, I’ve 
always thought that more interesting characteristic of wikis at their best is 
the way that they elevate linking to be part of the punctuation of writing. In 
other words, features like links, recent changes lists, orphan lists, missing 
lists, etc.

To me, the anyone-can-edit thing is more of a social thing: a moderation policy.

> 2 - So, is it helpful to describe it as a Wiki, now?

Probably not, ever since Wikipedia and WikiL**ks hijacked the popular meaning 
of the word.

> 3 - I always have trouble explaining what is IS, because its so flexible. Is 
> "Wiki" appropriate for such flex? Could there be as better terminology?

This sounds like a version of the perennial question “Should we rename 
TiddlyWiki?”. My take on that is:

a) I’d probably call the next backwards-incompatible version of TiddlyWiki 
something else
b) In technical terms, renaming TiddlyWiki5 could be a monster undertaking 
depending on how far one went. The name “TiddlyWiki” is riddled through the 
code and the user interface
c) Having said that, one could imagine some new names to be simpler than 
others. For example, a name that still abbreviated to TW might be handy
d) If it’s not called TiddlyWiki then we’d probably want to rename “tiddler” too

> 4 - BTW, I never have trouble instancing clear USE CASES of TiddlyWki. These 
> are far MORE diverse than any other "Wiki" I have ever seen. In fact I'm not 
> sure such diverse FUNCTION is anything much to do with any "Wiki" per se.

Wikis have actually often had application-building functionality right from the 
beginning. Back in the ‘90s something called http://twiki.org/ 
 was popular, and it still pitches itself as an app building 
platform. 

> 5 - I'd like to be able to describe what TiddlyWiki IS in a way that 
> potential users could better understand it before adopting it. I am NOT sure 
> if "Wiki" is a decent denominator to have in the mix.

I personally don’t think the name is an impediment to understanding TiddlyWiki; 
I think for most people it’s just a string of letters. Having said that, as 
we’ve discussed elsewhere, there are people that viscerally hate the name, and 
it would certainly be true that they’d be happy if we changed the name.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Just thoughts.
> Josiah
> 
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[tw5] Re: [marketing TW] How can we create many specific entrances?

Mat wrote:
>
> ... maybe I don't fully understand what you mean with it? The thing is, 
> WHO would do this outreaching? You? How? E-mail people? As someone who is 
> concerned about the TW project I'd really appreciate that but wouldn't 
> count on it being a long lasting effort (or am I wrong?).
>

Ciaoi Mat,

I mean the kind of thing that in the thread on Gaming, in process... 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/kSh3AVQBcwk

I think its a clear example of a "demand area" that if a bit of energy is 
put into would fruit far better than leaving it without doing that. 

By pro-actively noticing some demand work can evolve from being implicit 
to  EXPLICIT. It opens up more than if you treat everything the same. 
"Marketing" is an active process based on guesses about demand. I think the 
"Games Case" is substantive instance that is currently in our faces already 
and that TW uptake in that field could be far greater IF we can help supply 
appropriate "products".

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

Hi, 

Then use: It's a personal web notebook.

-m

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[tw5] Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

By way of background the question ...



*Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is seen as a "Wiki"?*
1 - It seems to be VERY different to other "Wiki" systems in its 
fundamental workings & potential.

2 - So, is it helpful to describe it as a Wiki, now?

3 - I always have trouble explaining what is IS, because its so flexible. 
Is "Wiki" appropriate for such flex? Could there be as better terminology?

4 - BTW, I never have trouble instancing clear USE CASES of TiddlyWki. 
These are far MORE diverse than any other "Wiki" I have ever seen. In fact 
I'm not sure such diverse FUNCTION is anything much to do with any "Wiki" 
per se.

5 - I'd like to be able to describe what TiddlyWiki IS in a way that 
potential users could better understand it before adopting it. I am NOT 
sure if "Wiki" is a decent denominator to have in the mix.

Just thoughts.
Josiah


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Re: [tw5] Preparing for v5.1.16

Thanks Tony, I’ve added your examples for v5.1.16,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 25 Apr 2018, at 01:00, TonyM  wrote:
> 
> Some quick examples to add to the range widget documentation (tested on 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/)
> 
> 1-10
> <$range field=number-field min=-1 max=10 default=1 increment=1 > 
> {{!!number-field}}
> 
> 0 to 1 for percentages
> 
> <$range tiddler="Settings tiddler" field=number-field min=0 max=1 default=.01 
> increment=.01 > {{Settings tiddler!!number-field}}
> 
> Ideally all command/widgets should have a "code template" we can copy to 
> clipboard
> 
> <$range tiddler="" field="" min=1 max=10 increment=1 default=1 
> class="">
> 
> Otherwise it is time consuming for the user to build the command
> 
> If the commands feature demands it we may present multiple forms of the code 
> template.
> 
> Regards
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 8:16:49 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> I’ve posted another update with the last minute changes proposed today. 
> Please give it a try and let me know of any issues; I now plan to make the 
> release tomorrow,
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>> On 24 Apr 2018, at 08:22, Jeremy Ruston > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm afraid my progress has been slower for the last 3 weeks than I'd hoped 
>> due to suddenly succumbing to something called bursitis of my elbows (which 
>> is a medical term for “expert torture administered via the elbows”). 
>> Maddening condition for a programmer: typing, using a touch screen or 
>> trackpad all induce nerve-shredding agony. It's slowly getting better but I 
>> can still only type for short bursts. On the positive side, it's given me 
>> some welcome insights into everyday life for people who rely on assistive 
>> technologies.
>> 
>> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
>> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
>> release).
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy.
>> 
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com <>
>> https://jermolene.com 
>> 
>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:51, Matthew Lauber > wrote:
>> 
>>> Any word on the range widget PR here?  
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> If there's something that needs done with it, I'm happy to add to the PR.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matt Lauber
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 10:10:06 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 
>>>  Adding a <$range> 
>>> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 
>>>  Modify the is operator 
>>> to allow multiple types to be specified.
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot of 
>>> exciting new features:
>>> 
>>> * Copying to the clipboard
>>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>>> better extensibility and customisability
>>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability via 
>>> declarative JSON rules
>>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>>> scrolling and zooming
>>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>> 
>>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>> 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>>> 
>>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>> 
>>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Jeremy.
>>> 
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[tw5] Re: sidebar background opacity

2018-04-25 Thread HC Haase

This is strange.. 

saved/reload
It worked, 

but after I modify something in the wiki and 
save/reload the sidebar "color"* dont hide*.

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[tw5] Re: Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?

2018-04-25 Thread Mark Thomas

I'd definitely like to see what you've done with stat blocks.

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 8:36:36 AM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> That said, one of my long term goals is to produce a D module entirely 
> contained in a tiddlywiki.  So, maps, creatures, descriptions, plots, are 
> all collected and linked in one place.  At this time, for D 5e, I've 
> created:
>  * Stat Block edit and view templates for creatures.  Based on (
> https://valloric.github.io/statblock5e/)
>  * A svg based grid system for mapping locations.  Based on (
> https://campaignwiki.org/gridmapper.svg)
>  * A very hacky way of implementing maps, where locations show up as links 
> on the background image.  
>  * A system for including soundboards with specific 
> locations/events/tiddlers, so you can have thematic music if you want.  
> Based on (https://tabletopaudio.com/soundpad.html) and including most of 
> their sounds as a separate plugin.  
>
> If anyone have an interest in any of these features, I'll be happy to pull 
> out a example wiki people can play with.  The stat bl
>
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 8:20:01 AM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>
>> I've got a few campaigns I'm planning/running in TiddlyWiki, but nothing 
>> I can just pickup and hand off as a plugin or edition.  I'm happy to answer 
>> questions though.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 11:41:36 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?
>>>
>>> There seems to be pent-up demand for examples, coding and variant ways 
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> The problem is I can't really quote anything, link to it, as it doesn't 
>>> exist.
>>>
>>> Can't we do better for obvious demands?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> @TiddlyTweeter
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?

I was considering working on the same thing. So yes, I am interested.

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[tw5] Customice font sice of sidebar

Hello everyone.

I would like to know if it is possible to change the font size of the sidebar, 
only the sidebar, and if there is a way that in long entries you can adjust the 
text in two lines instead of being cut as it happens to me continuously .

Thanks in advance.

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[tw5] Re: Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?

2018-04-25 Thread Matthew Lauber

That said, one of my long term goals is to produce a D module entirely 
contained in a tiddlywiki.  So, maps, creatures, descriptions, plots, are 
all collected and linked in one place.  At this time, for D 5e, I've 
created:
 * Stat Block edit and view templates for creatures.  Based on 
(https://valloric.github.io/statblock5e/)
 * A svg based grid system for mapping locations.  Based on 
(https://campaignwiki.org/gridmapper.svg)
 * A very hacky way of implementing maps, where locations show up as links 
on the background image.  
 * A system for including soundboards with specific 
locations/events/tiddlers, so you can have thematic music if you want.  
Based on (https://tabletopaudio.com/soundpad.html) and including most of 
their sounds as a separate plugin.  

If anyone have an interest in any of these features, I'll be happy to pull 
out a example wiki people can play with.  The stat bl

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 8:20:01 AM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> I've got a few campaigns I'm planning/running in TiddlyWiki, but nothing I 
> can just pickup and hand off as a plugin or edition.  I'm happy to answer 
> questions though.
>
> Matt
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 11:41:36 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?
>>
>> There seems to be pent-up demand for examples, coding and variant ways 
>> forward.
>>
>> The problem is I can't really quote anything, link to it, as it doesn't 
>> exist.
>>
>> Can't we do better for obvious demands?
>>
>> Best wishes
>> @TiddlyTweeter
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: sidebar background opacity


>
> thank you
>  it worked... but
>
> now it also make the side panel background of the* jd mobile layout* 
> (which is terrific on phone screens) transparent.. and that makes it 
> impossible to read anything. So I did some guess work (since I don't really 
> write code) and added a @media to fix it.
>
>
that's how you do it! 

>
> So this is code
>
> @media (min-width: 960px) {
>
> .tc-sidebar-scrollable {
>  background-color: rgba(244, 244, 244, 0.4);
> }
>
> <$reveal state="$:/state/sidebar" type="nomatch" text="yes">
>
> .tc-sidebar-scrollable {
>  display: none;
> }
>
> 
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Any recommendation on how to integrate this tiddler properly in to the 
> wiki so it is not "lost" when I forget about it?
>

I'm used to make a $:/styles tiddler for such utility styles - or 
$:/_styles so it shows up on top of the system tiddlers list

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to re-order table of content items?

2018-04-25 Thread kelsang sherab

It works!
Thanks

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 6:10:09 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If you use tag based TOC there's an easy workaround. ... Just create a tag 
> pill like eg: <>
>
> If you click it, you'll get a dropdown. This dropdown is drag & drop-able. 
> If you change order there, it will modify the "list-field in the HelloThere 
> tiddler, which in turn is used to sort the tagged list. 
>
> If you want to change order often, there should be a permanent solution. 
> But IMO this is a fast "hack" 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

Thanks Fadel M and Jed Carty !!!

Now I have it clear and I understand it perfectly.

It is not done directly as in the programs that I mentioned earlier, but it can 
be done by going around it.

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[tw5] Re: sidebar background opacity

2018-04-25 Thread HC Haase

thank you
 it worked... but

now it also make the side panel background of the* jd mobile layout* (which 
is terrific on phone screens) transparent.. and that makes it impossible to 
read anything. So I did some guess work (since I don't really write code) 
and added a @media to fix it.


So this is code

@media (min-width: 960px) {

.tc-sidebar-scrollable {
 background-color: rgba(244, 244, 244, 0.4);
}

<$reveal state="$:/state/sidebar" type="nomatch" text="yes">

.tc-sidebar-scrollable {
 display: none;
}


}






Any recommendation on how to integrate this tiddler properly in to the wiki 
so it is not "lost" when I forget about it?

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

Xabriña,

If you have already created your table of contents using the macro, then it's 
simple. If not, refer to this guide first 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Adding%20a%20table%20of%20contents%20to%20the%20sidebar

To learn more about fields check this tiddler
https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields

Basically what you do is you edit a tiddler, and at the bottom you find some 
fields, which you can enter text in. If the field you want is not available 
(for example caption is probably not there by default), you can just add the 
field you want by naming it, giving it a value and then clicking the add 
button. 

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[tw5] Re: sidebar background opacity

below that, add this so that the background doesn't show when the sidebar's 
hidden

<$reveal state="$:/state/sidebar" type="nomatch" text="yes">

.tc-sidebar-scrollable {
display: none;
}



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[tw5] Re: sidebar background opacity

Hi @HC Haase

you can just put this in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet :

.tc-sidebar-scrollable {
background-color: rgba(244, 244, 244, 0.6);
}

where the last value is the opacity - 1 is fully opaque, 0 fully transparent
 

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[tw5] sidebar background opacity

2018-04-25 Thread HC Haase

Is there a way to give the sidebar a slight opaque background colour?

when I put a background image (just to spice things up now and then) the 
sidebar becomes hard to read and the DarkPhoto theme is not looking good in 
my opinion.

in the Muuri plugin there is a opaque sidebar but there is too many things 
going when I just want the sidebar.

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

The caption field, if it exists, is displayed by the TOC macros. So if you 
name the tiddler as Fadel suggested than you don't have a naming conflict 
and can set the caption fields to History (or whatever name you wish to 
display) and it will display what you want. You don't have to manually 
create your table of contents.

So you make a tiddler called BMW History, in the tiddler you create a field 
called 'caption' and in that field you put History

Then in the table of contents that tiddler will be listed as History, but 
it will be the tiddler called BMW History.

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

Hi, QuaraMan!
The solution that you propose is for me to come out in the TOC the tidders as I 
want or to make a transclusion of everything in a tiddler ???

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

Hello and thank you Fadel M !!!
I do not fully understand your solution. Would you have a TOC expanded with the 
same structure that I've presented to you in the way you tell me ???

I mean that I have this in TOC:

+ Citroen
 History (only the history of Citroen)
 Models (only Citroen models)
 Factories (only Citroen factories)
+ BMW
 History (only the history of BMW)
 Models (BMW models only)
 Factories (only BMW factories)


I had already thought about using the tiddler fields, but I did not know how to 
use them to get what I want.

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

Mat,

That is the same problem that an empty textedit widget has, and I think the 
select widget too. So it isn't unexpected. Unfortunately I am not sure what 
to do to fix it since defaulting to the text field and current tiddler is 
used a lot in tiddlywiki and changing that in general would break a lot.

I just noticed that the checkbox widget doesn't have this problem so I 
guess there is some precedent for it. I am not sure what the checkbox 
widget does when no attributes are given.

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

2018-04-25 Thread xanatoswetzel

Hi Xabriña,

I would solve it like this:

[Tiddler A] Citroen
[[History|Tiddler A/history]]
[[Models|Tiddler A/models]]
[[Factories|Tiddler A/factories]]
[Tiddler B] BMW
[[History|Tiddler B/history]]
[[Models|Tiddler B/models]]
[[Factories|Tiddler B/factories]]

so you need to create tiddlers with the prefix "Tiddler A" or "Tiddler B" 
then a separating item (for example "/" or "_") and then the sub tiddler 
name.

hope that helps.
QuaraMan

Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2018 11:33:06 UTC+2 schrieb Xabriña:
>
> Hello everyone, I also have the same problem as Sai Thota.
> I have used programs like TreeDbNotes, Cherry Tree and KeepNotes. In these 
> programs you could have subnodes with the same name in different nodes.
> For example:
> [Tiddler A] Citroen
> [sub tiddler A] History
> [sub tiddler A] Models
> [sub tiddler A] Factories
> [Tiddler B] BMW
> [sub tiddler B] History
> [sub tiddler B] Models
> [sub tiddler B] Factories
>
> How could this be done in Tiddlywiki ??? If it is possible to do it. I am 
> interested in the visualization in the TOC.
> Thanks and greetings to all.
>

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

Hi Xabriña,

To achieve this you can edit the caption field of the tiddlers. This keeps the 
title that is viewed when you open the tiddler, but changes what is displayed 
in the table of contents.

So for example you can name the tiddler title "Citroën history", then add a 
caption field and call it "History". This tiddler will now appear in the table 
of contents as "History". However, the tiddler titles have to be unique, 
unfortunately. 

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[tw5] Re: how to give same sub-tiddler name in multiple tiddlers

Hello everyone, I also have the same problem as Sai Thota.
I have used programs like TreeDbNotes, Cherry Tree and KeepNotes. In these 
programs you could have subnodes with the same name in different nodes.
For example:
[Tiddler A] Citroen
[sub tiddler A] History
[sub tiddler A] Models
[sub tiddler A] Factories
[Tiddler B] BMW
[sub tiddler B] History
[sub tiddler B] Models
[sub tiddler B] Factories

How could this be done in Tiddlywiki ??? If it is possible to do it. I am 
interested in the visualization in the TOC.
Thanks and greetings to all.

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler width and sidebar position

Hi Sjaak, 

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 1:46:22 PM UTC+2, Sjaak Adriaanse wrote:
>
> I updated from 5.0.12-beta to 5.1.15, 
>

BACKUP FIRST

That's a big jump. ... I think your problem is, that you may have imported 
some theme-tweaks to your new TW, that are not compatible with the existing 
stable version. 

   - So you could download a new empty.html from tiddlywiki.com
   - Then drag and drop your work.html from the OS file-browser to the open 
   empty.html 
   - It will show you the import list 
   - Check this list and __only__ import your content to the new TW. 

Especially have a look for tiddlers that* start with $:/* . 
SystemTiddlers ... They may contain stuff that is not compatible anymore. 

Also have a look at your plugins.  Some of them may be outdated and may 
behave strange with the current version

TW stable implemented a lot of functions into the core, that had been 
plugins in beta. ... 

Just some thoughts. 

mario

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[tw5] Re: Story to defaultTiddlers (Pull Request?)

Hi, 

I do like the idea, but this proposal, as it is, is "plugin-territory"!

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 11:06:17 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
>
> <$set name="myStory" filter="[list[$:/StoryList]!tag[excludeStory]]">
>

For me the problem is: excludeStory tag.

We had a lot of problems with TiddlyWikiClassic and all the different 
"excludeXXX" tags. ... because in the end you need to tag the "excludeXXX" 
tag tiddler with "excludeFromLists" ... and so on.

The second problem with this tag is, that if I do import your 
"excludeStory" tagged tiddler to my TW, I may expect it to be gone, because 
I may want, that it is part of the defaultTiddlers .. and so on ... and so 
on. 

So for me this is a real "show stopper" for the core. 

just my 2 cents. 
-m

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler width and sidebar position

2018-04-25 Thread Sjaak Adriaanse

Hi Ed,

Changing the sidebar layout to 'Fluid story, fixed sidebar' fixed the first 
problem, thanks! 

But the sidebar still behaves strangely. It tries to be as low on the 
screen as possible, depending on what it displays. But when I click f.i. 
the 'recent' tab the head of the sidebar moves upward out of view (because 
the column with recent tiddlers is so long). I can not reach other tabs and 
I also can not scroll (moving the scrollbar only scrolls the story river). 
Is this also caused by the 'fixed sidebar' option? These problems did not 
occur in 5.0.12-beta, where I could not tweak the sidebar layout.

Greetings,
Sjaak

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 3:24:40 PM UTC+2, Ed wrote:
>
> Hi Sjaak,
>
> Did you click on the double chevron in upper right corner,
> that will change the size of the story river and reveal the sidebar.
>
> Other standard choices, two actually.
> Click "Open Control Panel" icon.
> Click "Appearances"
> Click "Team Tweaks"
> Find "Sidebar lay-out"
> There are two options: "Fixed Story, fluid sidebar" & "Fluid story, fixed 
> sidebar"
>
> Vriendelijke Groeten! Ed.
>
> Op dinsdag 24 april 2018 13:46:22 UTC+2 schreef Sjaak Adriaanse:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I updated from 5.0.12-beta to 5.1.15, but now the tiddlers take up the 
>> whole width of the screen, so the sidebar disappears behind them. Also the 
>> sidebar is positioned too far to the bottom of the screen. How can I change 
>> the standard tiddler width and sidebar position?
>>
>> At the moment my experience with TW is content-only (tiddlers, links, 
>> tags) but I want to dig deeper in the possibilities.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Sjaak
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

Hi Tony, 

I can "hear you" ... but it's OT here. That's why I moved this discussion 
to its own thread: discussion: codemirror editor and improved indentation 
handling 

have fun!
mario

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