[tw5] Re: [TW5] Plugins updated: ToDoNow, Listreveal, Reminders

2018-05-13 Thread Shay Shaked
Dear Thomas, 

I'm playing around with your ToDoNow again. I might need some dumb-proof 
explanation to a couple of things (perhaps you have more documentation?)

   1. How can I create subtasks inside a "ToDo" Tiddler, or, what would you 
   suggest for a big project that has a breakdown of smaller things? 
   2. Can you save a template of a project by modifying the "ToDo" tiddler or 
   would that break anything?
   3. What's the scope and the stuff it can do?

Thanks in advance, and thank you for this awesome work. 

On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 5:47:41 PM UTC-4, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hello TW-friends
>
> After quite some time I have updated most of my plugins on 
> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html with some minor and some deeper going 
> changes. Generally I have tried to make my stuff more robust for different 
> designs. Additionally I have been able to integrate some user feedback from 
> the last five months ore so. 
>
> As always: Please make a backup or two before updating. And if you update, 
> update all dependencies. 
>
> Enjoy and keep the feedback coming!
> Thomas
>
> ===
>
> From the readme of ToDoNow:
>
> Version 1.2.9
>
>- Minor redesign with better icons, context sensitive colours, less 
>whitespace and additional configuration options:
>   - hide the header of ToDoNow 
>   
>   - check and adjust author/creator info and task template
>   - translate all text, date and time formats on ToDoNow 
>    via translation tiddlers
>  - you can leave the translation empty to save the space
>   - independent save button (no longer a duplication of the core save 
>button, so adding an accesskey to the core version 
>
>  
>should not be a problem anymore)
>- listreveal updated to version 0.3.21
>- reminders updated to version 0.1.6
>
> Special thanks to Surya, Mark, Jasper and Josiah for feedback and 
> suggestions!
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-13 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I would be really worried about using this on a world-facing server. Or 
does WebBrick have security built in somehow?

-- Mark

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:29:38 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> My cpanel account permits the use of Ruby on Rails. Can you possibly 
> provide guidence on using this to serve tiddlywiki files that can be saved?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 12:32:45 AM UTC+10, Jim wrote:
>>
>> I use Ruby and so always have it installed. If you do too, here's a 
>> minimal server using Ruby Webrick. It just serves up files from the same 
>> folder and handles saving. 
>>
>> Once running, just point yor web browser at localhost:8000 to view the 
>> folder listing, and click on your wiki html file.
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826096da
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-13 Thread TonyM
Jim,

My cpanel account permits the use of Ruby on Rails. Can you possibly 
provide guidence on using this to serve tiddlywiki files that can be saved?

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 12:32:45 AM UTC+10, Jim wrote:
>
> I use Ruby and so always have it installed. If you do too, here's a 
> minimal server using Ruby Webrick. It just serves up files from the same 
> folder and handles saving. 
>
> Once running, just point yor web browser at localhost:8000 to view the 
> folder listing, and click on your wiki html file.
>
> https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826096da
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Page number in the bottom-middle of tiddler

2018-05-13 Thread TonyM
Mohammad,

I have used html tables with three columns, one row and then Left centre 
and Right Justify the text in the cells, these can be given 33% width (or 
variations there of.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 11:43:04 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> This works
>  left:45%; width:autho;
>
> or left:50%
>
> Best
> Mohammad
>
> On Friday, May 11, 2018 at 5:33:27 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> How is it if you add "width: 10%; left: 45%;" ?
>>
>>
>> I tried to have a page number in the bottom of tiddler (5px above tiddler 
>>> frame) 
>>>
>>> .td-footer {
>>>  background-color:#000;color:#fff;display:inline-block;text-
>>>  align:center;
>>>  position:absolute;
>>>  font-size:0.5em !important;
>>>  font-weight:700;
>>>  border-radius:50%;
>>>  padding:8px;
>>>  bottom:5px;margin: 0 auto;
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The number is shown at the bottom left of tiddler, I tried margin: 0 
>>> auto, but it does not work!
>>> I appreciate to take a look ne let me know how I can do this!
>>>
>>>
>>> !! NOTE
>>> I use a macro to read the tiddler filed called "page-number" and then 
>>> style it with .td-footer
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

2018-05-13 Thread TonyM
Kelsang,

Thanks for your input. I think a starters Q will help where we present 
key user perspective questions and perhaps a TiddlyWiki For Dummies section?

I will review your feedback in some detail.

Tony


On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 6:31:06 AM UTC+10, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> I hope this suggestion is applicable for this thread.
>
> There are two things that are very helpful and I wish there was more of 
> them around
>
>1. examples of how people use TW - although there are examples they 
>feel more like a show case rather than how someone uses TW in their daily 
>life.
>2. This one is the more important one:
>   1. When one starts with TW - if you are not a web develoer - it is 
>   overwhelming and frustrating - you know the idea of TW is great but you 
>   feel so stupid for not understanding what's possible or the meaning of 
> key 
>   words in the TW world and so you get a massive head confusion etc
>  - this affects the ability of the user to create/imagine what 
>  can be done with TW - resorting to using it as another text editor - 
> and as 
>  such it is pretty annoying 
>  - Sure, you cannot teach imagination - but if I know the meaning 
>  of a language and use it enough I will finally find ways of 
> expressing 
>  myself in that language that are unique to me and suit my needs
>   - TW is just a language
> 2. One of the greatest revelations for me was when I realized 
>   I can click on the edit button of TW that are shared on the web and 
> explore 
>   the relationship between what it says in the tiddler [text field and 
>   possibly other fields] and how it actually looks like. This has been 
> quite 
>   revolutionary for my learning of how 
>   3. So - Analysis of what you can write in a tiddler's field[s] and 
>   what effect they'll produce - such analysis could prove a great 
> learning 
>   resource for beginners
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:07:06 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am building something to curate and present *TiddlyWiki solutions* and 
>> the relevant components or techniques. 
>>
>> This is with the View to presenting Focused Content such that there are 
>> different ways for people to discover TiddlyWiki without scaring them off 
>> with TiddlyWikis true diversity of posiblities
>>
>> Please contribute general areas in which solutions can be found. Lets try 
>> not to get too detailed just list items that are popular or somewhat 
>> generic.
>>
>> There Is my list so far.
>>
>>
>>- 
>>- Bookmarks and Links
>>- Brainstorming
>>- Calendaring dates and Timelines
>>- Check Lists
>>- Collaboration
>>- Dashboards
>>- Data visualization
>>- Desktop Applications
>>- Education and Training
>>- Fun and games
>>- Game Campaigns
>>- Home and lifestyle
>>- Image galleries
>>- Journals and Diaries
>>- Knowledge bases, dictionaries and glossaries
>>- Mapping
>>- Mobile Applications
>>- Music
>>- Notes, Notebooks and Note-taking
>>- Personal Database
>>- Personal Notebooks
>>- Personal Productivity
>>- Personal WebSites
>>- Presentations and SlideShows
>>- Projects and Project Management
>>- Publishing
>>- Social media, sharing, comments
>>- Spreadsheets and maths
>>- Story and screenplay creation
>>- Tables, charts and graphs
>>- Task management and productivity
>>- Web Site Hosting
>>- Writing and editing
>>
>> I am working on a separate list and will post soon for Designers. The 
>> above are purely the end use type of solutions that can be achieved with 
>> TiddlyuWiki 
>>
>> Thanks in Advance for your Contribution.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-13 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I've made a PR:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3277

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 7:32:49 AM UTC-7, Jim wrote:
>
> > You should add this as a PR as saver #21 at TiddlyWiki.com
>
> I'm not against it, but have no idea.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please contribute

2018-05-13 Thread kelsang sherab
I hope this suggestion is applicable for this thread.

There are two things that are very helpful and I wish there was more of 
them around

   1. examples of how people use TW - although there are examples they feel 
   more like a show case rather than how someone uses TW in their daily life.
   2. This one is the more important one:
  1. When one starts with TW - if you are not a web develoer - it is 
  overwhelming and frustrating - you know the idea of TW is great but you 
  feel so stupid for not understanding what's possible or the meaning of 
key 
  words in the TW world and so you get a massive head confusion etc
 - this affects the ability of the user to create/imagine what can 
 be done with TW - resorting to using it as another text editor - and 
as 
 such it is pretty annoying 
 - Sure, you cannot teach imagination - but if I know the meaning 
 of a language and use it enough I will finally find ways of expressing 
 myself in that language that are unique to me and suit my needs
  - TW is just a language
2. One of the greatest revelations for me was when I realized I 
  can click on the edit button of TW that are shared on the web and explore 
  the relationship between what it says in the tiddler [text field and 
  possibly other fields] and how it actually looks like. This has been 
quite 
  revolutionary for my learning of how 
  3. So - Analysis of what you can write in a tiddler's field[s] and 
  what effect they'll produce - such analysis could prove a great learning 
  resource for beginners
   
Cheers


On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 4:07:06 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I am building something to curate and present *TiddlyWiki solutions* and 
> the relevant components or techniques. 
>
> This is with the View to presenting Focused Content such that there are 
> different ways for people to discover TiddlyWiki without scaring them off 
> with TiddlyWikis true diversity of posiblities
>
> Please contribute general areas in which solutions can be found. Lets try 
> not to get too detailed just list items that are popular or somewhat 
> generic.
>
> There Is my list so far.
>
>
>- 
>- Bookmarks and Links
>- Brainstorming
>- Calendaring dates and Timelines
>- Check Lists
>- Collaboration
>- Dashboards
>- Data visualization
>- Desktop Applications
>- Education and Training
>- Fun and games
>- Game Campaigns
>- Home and lifestyle
>- Image galleries
>- Journals and Diaries
>- Knowledge bases, dictionaries and glossaries
>- Mapping
>- Mobile Applications
>- Music
>- Notes, Notebooks and Note-taking
>- Personal Database
>- Personal Notebooks
>- Personal Productivity
>- Personal WebSites
>- Presentations and SlideShows
>- Projects and Project Management
>- Publishing
>- Social media, sharing, comments
>- Spreadsheets and maths
>- Story and screenplay creation
>- Tables, charts and graphs
>- Task management and productivity
>- Web Site Hosting
>- Writing and editing
>
> I am working on a separate list and will post soon for Designers. The 
> above are purely the end use type of solutions that can be achieved with 
> TiddlyuWiki 
>
> Thanks in Advance for your Contribution.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC

>
> do I need to give a special tag to this "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal   
> tiddler?
>
>>
>>
No, you only need to edit $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal and change the 
<$button ...> to <$button ... 
accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> if it's not already there
also, to be able to access the new-journal button it must be visible in the 
sidebar on top below the site title and site subtitle (in the sidebar - 
tools - check the checkbox for new journal)

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Mohammad
Jed,
 Many thanks for your effort!
I have downloaded the 32B version and use it with Chrome. The pallet can 
not be changed.
When I select from example Blanca I have a tiddler ($__palette.tid) with 
this content

title: $:/palette
created: 20180513160046150
modified: 20180513160047382

$:/palettes/Blanca



But nothing happened in TW just blinking and still TW uses the old pallet.

/Mohammad


On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 12:36:21 AM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Bob version 1.0.0 is now available.
>
> It is the renamed version of the MultiUser plugin. For people who aren't 
> familiar with the old MultiUser plugin the basic features are:
>
> - Serve multiple wikis
> - Two-way syncing of changes between the browser and file system
> - Multiple people can use and edit served wikis simultaneously
> - A static file server for images and other media (include files from the 
> local file system in the wiki)
>
> Changes from the last version of the MultiUser plugin are:
> - Changing the name
> - Adding a message that lets you stop queued scripts in progress
>
> Plugin repo: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>
> Single executable version: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.0
>
> Let me know if you find bugs.
>
>
> Updating to Bob from MultiUser will take a few changes.
>
> single executable version
>
> If you are using the single executable version then you will need to edit 
> the tiddlywiki.info file in the IndexWiki folder. There is a line 
> (probably line 4) that reads
> "OokTech/MultiUser"
> change that line to
> "OokTech/Bob"
>
> plugin version
>
> If you are using the plugin version, in addition to changing the 
> tiddlywiki.info file for your root wiki, you will need to either: 1) 
> change the remote url of the plugin repo or 2) just delete the old plugin 
> and clone Bob again.
>
> Other than that, everything should be compatible.
>
>
> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here
> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
> or if you prefer there  is a link for PayPal here
>
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_button_id=ZG94CTLHTKYRE
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread kelsang sherab
do I need to give a special tag to this "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal   
tiddler?


On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 3:15:01 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> ... then create a tiddler "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal" and put your 
> desired accesskey in the text field, like j
>
> On most browsers the key can be accessed by holding "Alt" and pressing the 
> key
> On firefox it seems that that key can be configured - try "Alt" or 
> "Alt+Shift" or "Ctrl+Alt" plus the defined key
> If that doesn't work on firefox, it's either something that can be 
> configured - or a bug.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi, as I explained in my 5th post:

after importing, save the wiki and reload it. Changing the access key would 
also need to save and reload.
the key defined in $:/config/accessKey/new-tiddler then is the key to use 
with your browser's defined key for accessing access-keys. On chrome it's 
"Alt" - on firefox-esr it's "Alt+Shift" ... plus the defined key

if you're using a new firefox it may need a config change, I tried it and 
had to change something to make access-keys work. Normally it should be 
supported by all browsers

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread kelsang sherab
@BurningTreeC - 
Hi - once I imported your three files - I am not sure what to do next.

I cannot find any visible indication that the files did anything to the 
system.

The files are on the system with the following names:


   1. $:/core/modules/widgets/button.js 
   <#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fwidgets%2Fbutton.js>
   2. $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler 
   <#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FButtons%2Fnew-tiddler>
   3. $:/config/accessKey/new-tiddler 
   <#%24%3A%2Fconfig%2FaccessKey%2Fnew-tiddler>


But nothing else seems to be happneing

would you mind please clarifying

cheers

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 3:00:22 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> you can simply import the three files here at the bottom, then save your 
> wiki and reload it. Try it with an empty wiki first
>
>
> if you want to add keys to other buttons, you can open the button tiddler 
> (for example $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal) and add 
> "accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}" to the <$button ... 
> message="..." class="..." 
> accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> ... 
> change new-journal accordingly to the name of the button you're editing
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread kelsang sherab
@Mohammad 
That's a great  little sight!!


On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:30:34 PM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> @BTC
>  You can have a look at
>  http://showroom.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Best
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:59:44 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> @BTC
>>  I use TiddlyDesktop and it works for me!
>> I just tried Alt+n and it creates a new Tiddler
>>
>> One question
>>  I use Zoomin storyview with one tiddler at a time on screen. I have 
>> added two small buttons at the bottom of tiddler to let me navigate to
>> next/previous tiddler in the storyriver.
>> Is it possible to use your method to add Spacebar key for next or arrow 
>> keys or page Up/Down keys for Next/Previous
>> tiddler.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:45:25 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>> @Mohammad , you're welcome!
>>>
>>> let me know if it works for you
>>>
>>> BTC
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
It looks like there is a bug where if you create a new folder in and put a 
new .tid file inside that folder it isn't found until a server restart. I 
haven't had any trouble creating tiddlers in folders that already existed 
and have at least one .tid file in them.

One thing to watch out for is that one side effect of the file system 
monitor is if a .tid file has a title listed that doesn't match the file 
name it will rename the file. This may behave strangely if you save a file 
without a title field or a blank title field.

It also looks like renaming a tiddler by changing the title in the .tid 
file doesn't remove the old version from the browser.

So there is still work to be done in terms of handling name changes and 
folders.

This may never be finished.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Xavier Cazin
Hi Jed,

Well done! This bug has ceased to exist!

I may have one or two new ones for your consideration, unless I do
something wrong:

   - When I create new .tid tiddlers on the filesystem while Bob is
   running, they don't appear in the wiki, and are even deleted if put at the
   root of the tiddlers directory.
   - I don't seem to be able to run scripts that write files (which is kind
   of useful to tell whether they actually run!). An scripts entry like "test"
   : "echo 'Hi' >$HOME/hitest.txt" produces no results, or at least I can't
   find them.

Cheers,

Xavier.

-- Xavier Cazin

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:

> And that was the 'best' kind of error. Seemingly inconsistent, only
> discovered after releasing version 1.0.0, caused by invisible whitespace,
> it only appeared because I fixed another error that had been hiding it and
> now that I know what happened it is completely obvious.
>
> Version 1.0.1 which hopefully fixes these problems is here:
>
> Single executable: https://github.com/OokTech/
> TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.1
>
> Plugin: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
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[tw5] Re: What happened to my tiddler Type field?

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi @Jim , yes this is a bug

I've found a possible fix for it, see here 

In the meantime, enabling links to missing tiddlers doesn't show the bug 
and I hope the fix or a variant gets it to the core

all the best, BTC

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread Silverfox
Yesss !

I'm so happy it works
Thank you so much for giving the solution and also for all the details that 
contribute to leverage my coding skill.

I can go on improving my plugin now... 

Nicolas

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread Mohammad
Let me to try that.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 9:08:35 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> It can be used with every button
>
>
>- open the tiddler where the button is
>- look for the <$button ...>
>- make it <$button ... accesskey="u">
>- or make it <$button ... accesskey={{$:/config/accessKey/mybutton}}> 
>and create the tiddler $:/config/accessKey/mybutton and put "u" in the 
> text 
>field (or your key)
>- that's all, using Alt+yourkey triggers the button as if it was 
>clicked
>
> I tried space, it works if you add accesskey=" " or if you put a space in 
> your config tiddler (no " " in the config tiddler, just a space)
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
Yes, I removed a lot of redundant messages, each one came from a different 
part of deleting a tiddler but now that it is mostly stable there should 
generally only be one.

There is no in-wiki way to delete a child wiki. To delete a wiki delete the 
folder and in the Bob settings -> manual settings tab remove the wiki from 
the listed wikis, save the settings and refresh the routes using the 
buttons there.

I could probably add one but I think that most of the time doing it 
manually by deleting the folder is acceptable. If people want a delete wiki 
option inside the wiki itself I can add one, I just need to make sure it 
isn't easy to accidentally delete something.

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[tw5] Showroom at http://showroom.tiddlyspot.com/

2018-05-13 Thread Mohammad
Showroom at http://showroom.tiddlyspot.com/ is a simple and useful 
presentation edition.
I appreciate @Birthe the creator  of this plugin.

There are some issues right now with forward/backward and reordering the 
slides.
Also it would be great if it supports the shortcut for navigation 
(next/previous/main list)


Best
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-13 Thread Jim
Both of these work - a remote image and a local image:


[img[https:
//discourse-cdn-sjc1.com/sketchup/uploads/default/6259/f745c81b340274a6.png]]

[img[00439.png]]



On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 12:18:33 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> No, I meant images to external files. Adding images to TW directly slows 
> it down very quickly. 
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 7:32:49 AM UTC-7, Jim wrote:
>>
>> I've updated the file to create a back-up file on save. It might slow 
>> things down on large TW's but better to be safe than sorry.
>>
>> > You should add this as a PR as saver #21 at TiddlyWiki.com
>>
>> I'm not against it, but have no idea.
>>
>> > Will this also serve images?
>>
>> Images in a TW (which is just html)? Then yes it works. 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:32:45 AM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
>>>
>>> I use Ruby and so always have it installed. If you do too, here's a 
>>> minimal server using Ruby Webrick. It just serves up files from the same 
>>> folder and handles saving. 
>>>
>>> Once running, just point yor web browser at localhost:8000 to view the 
>>> folder listing, and click on your wiki html file.
>>>
>>> https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826096da
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
It can be used with every button


   - open the tiddler where the button is
   - look for the <$button ...>
   - make it <$button ... accesskey="u">
   - or make it <$button ... accesskey={{$:/config/accessKey/mybutton}}> 
   and create the tiddler $:/config/accessKey/mybutton and put "u" in the text 
   field (or your key)
   - that's all, using Alt+yourkey triggers the button as if it was clicked

I tried space, it works if you add accesskey=" " or if you put a space in 
your config tiddler (no " " in the config tiddler, just a space)

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread Mohammad
@BTC
 You can have a look at
 http://showroom.tiddlyspot.com/

Best

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:59:44 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> @BTC
>  I use TiddlyDesktop and it works for me!
> I just tried Alt+n and it creates a new Tiddler
>
> One question
>  I use Zoomin storyview with one tiddler at a time on screen. I have added 
> two small buttons at the bottom of tiddler to let me navigate to
> next/previous tiddler in the storyriver.
> Is it possible to use your method to add Spacebar key for next or arrow 
> keys or page Up/Down keys for Next/Previous
> tiddler.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 8:45:25 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> @Mohammad , you're welcome!
>>
>> let me know if it works for you
>>
>> BTC
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread Mohammad
@BTC
 I use TiddlyDesktop and it works for me!
I just tried Alt+n and it creates a new Tiddler

One question
 I use Zoomin storyview with one tiddler at a time on screen. I have added 
two small buttons at the bottom of tiddler to let me navigate to
next/previous tiddler in the storyriver.
Is it possible to use your method to add Spacebar key for next or arrow 
keys or page Up/Down keys for Next/Previous
tiddler.


Cheers
Mohammad

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> @Mohammad , you're welcome!
>
> let me know if it works for you
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Stobot
Jed,

Looks to be all fixed on my end after testing the 64-bit Windows 
executable. Also noticed that while delete used to generate 4 messages in 
the "terminal?", it now only does 1 - which makes activity much clearer - I 
assume that go fixed somewhere along the way. 

I should ask - what's the proper way of deleting a wiki after creating one? 
Is just deleting the file folder sufficient, or is there an in-wiki way of 
doing it?

Thanks again!

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 11:50:48 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> And that was the 'best' kind of error. Seemingly inconsistent, only 
> discovered after releasing version 1.0.0, caused by invisible whitespace, 
> it only appeared because I fixed another error that had been hiding it and 
> now that I know what happened it is completely obvious.
>
> Version 1.0.1 which hopefully fixes these problems is here:
>
> Single executable: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.1
>
> Plugin: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
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[tw5] Re: Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-13 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
No, I meant images to external files. Adding images to TW directly slows it 
down very quickly. 

-- Mark

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 7:32:49 AM UTC-7, Jim wrote:
>
> I've updated the file to create a back-up file on save. It might slow 
> things down on large TW's but better to be safe than sorry.
>
> > You should add this as a PR as saver #21 at TiddlyWiki.com
>
> I'm not against it, but have no idea.
>
> > Will this also serve images?
>
> Images in a TW (which is just html)? Then yes it works. 
>
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:32:45 AM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
>>
>> I use Ruby and so always have it installed. If you do too, here's a 
>> minimal server using Ruby Webrick. It just serves up files from the same 
>> folder and handles saving. 
>>
>> Once running, just point yor web browser at localhost:8000 to view the 
>> folder listing, and click on your wiki html file.
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826096da
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
@Mohammad , you're welcome!

let me know if it works for you

BTC

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread Mohammad
Many thanks!
 Shortcut keys are very important specially when you use TW for 
presentation.

Right now TW is heavily depend on mouse clicks.

I hope Jeremy respond to this pull request soon!

/Best

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:20:17 PM UTC+4:30, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> At the moment there are no keyboard shortcuts besides the ones you can 
> define using the keyboard widget, but they only work within a textarea or 
> an input field
>
> I made a pull request for keyboard shortcuts today using the "accesskey" 
> attribute (see here: 
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_accesskey.asp) on buttons. That 
> would let you define a keyboard key, that triggers the new-tiddler button 
> when you press that key in combination with the key that's defined in your 
> browser for accessing access-keys.
>
> I already have it working in a testing wiki and it works really fine. 
> Buttons must be visible to be able to access them or - like in the sidebar 
> by the "retain" attribute of the reveal widget - only hidden visually. That 
> means, if the sidebar is closed one can still access the page-control 
> buttons with an access-key.
>
> If you want to try this out, it's only a small tweak
>
>
> best wishes, BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17

2018-05-13 Thread Ed
Many Thanks to Jeremy and the othersof the cool TiddlyWiki wizard gang!
Awesome!!
Cheers, Ed.
= = = = = =
.
.


Op zaterdag 12 mei 2018 13:39:05 UTC+2 schreef Jeremy Ruston:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.17:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> There are several important bug fixes and some minor improvements:
>
>- Fixed incorrect location of the plugin library
>- Fixed problems with the “new journal” button overwriting data under 
>some circumstances
>- Fixed some problems with Etag handling with the WebDAV saver
>- Fixed animation timing problem with the reveal widget
>- Improved usability of the “red screen of embarrassment”
>- Added support for integral metadata in CSS files
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups.
>
> Finally, I’d like the thank everyone who contributed to this release:
>
> • @BramChen
> • @BurningTreeC
> • @danielo515
> • @icarito
> • @ldorigo
> • @mklauber
> • @sukima
> • @tobibeer
> • @twMat
>
> Feel free to leave any comments or questions here.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Ed
Jed, you're the man! 8-))

Op zondag 13 mei 2018 17:50:48 UTC+2 schreef Jed Carty:
>
> And that was the 'best' kind of error. Seemingly inconsistent, only 
> discovered after releasing version 1.0.0, caused by invisible whitespace, 
> it only appeared because I fixed another error that had been hiding it and 
> now that I know what happened it is completely obvious.
>
> Version 1.0.1 which hopefully fixes these problems is here:
>
> Single executable: 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.1
>
> Plugin: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
And that was the 'best' kind of error. Seemingly inconsistent, only 
discovered after releasing version 1.0.0, caused by invisible whitespace, 
it only appeared because I fixed another error that had been hiding it and 
now that I know what happened it is completely obvious.

Version 1.0.1 which hopefully fixes these problems is here:

Single executable: 
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.1

Plugin: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
I've figured out that on firefox-esr it works out of the box, on the newest 
firefox it may need some tuning.

If it doesn't work, one can try to open "about:config" in a new tab, then 
"accept the risks", then search for "chromeaccess" - only one entry should 
remain. double-click that entry and set it to 18. Then Alt+Shift+key should 
work

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
As far as I can tell the current problem is that there are newlines being 
added to the end of tiddlers. The state tiddlers are saved correctly but 
they are checked against an exact match and the newline is preventing the 
match from working.

I still need to find how to fix it. I switched to using the built-in method 
of saving tiddlers using the renderTiddler function and that is when the 
problem came in. I may have to switch back to using my custom version.

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[tw5] Re: What happened to my tiddler Type field?

2018-05-13 Thread Jim
Brilliant! Thank you.  

Is it a bug?


On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 10:37:57 AM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:21:17 AM UTC-7, Jim wrote:
>>
>> Good morning. 
>>
>> I'm not sure what I did but does anyone know how to fix this?
>>
>
> In the Control Panel, Settings tab, make sure that
>[x] Enable links to missing tiddlers 
> is checked.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>

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[tw5] Re: What happened to my tiddler Type field?

2018-05-13 Thread Eric Shulman
On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 5:21:17 AM UTC-7, Jim wrote:
>
> Good morning. 
>
> I'm not sure what I did but does anyone know how to fix this?
>

In the Control Panel, Settings tab, make sure that
   [x] Enable links to missing tiddlers 
is checked.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
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InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals

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[tw5] Re: Minimal Ruby Server

2018-05-13 Thread Jim
I've updated the file to create a back-up file on save. It might slow 
things down on large TW's but better to be safe than sorry.

> You should add this as a PR as saver #21 at TiddlyWiki.com

I'm not against it, but have no idea.

> Will this also serve images?

Images in a TW (which is just html)? Then yes it works. 

On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 10:32:45 AM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
>
> I use Ruby and so always have it installed. If you do too, here's a 
> minimal server using Ruby Webrick. It just serves up files from the same 
> folder and handles saving. 
>
> Once running, just point yor web browser at localhost:8000 to view the 
> folder listing, and click on your wiki html file.
>
> https://gist.github.com/jimfoltz/ee791c1bdd30ce137bc23cce826096da
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
... then create a tiddler "$:/config/accessKey/new-journal" and put your 
desired accesskey in the text field, like j

On most browsers the key can be accessed by holding "Alt" and pressing the 
key
On firefox it seems that that key can be configured - try "Alt" or 
"Alt+Shift" or "Ctrl+Alt" plus the defined key
If that doesn't work on firefox, it's either something that can be 
configured - or a bug.


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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
you can simply import the three files here at the bottom, then save your 
wiki and reload it. Try it with an empty wiki first


if you want to add keys to other buttons, you can open the button tiddler 
(for example $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal) and add 
"accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}" to the <$button ... 
message="..." class="..." 
accessKey={{$:/config/accessKey/new-journal}}> ... 
change new-journal accordingly to the name of the button you're editing

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$__config_accessKey_new-tiddler.json
Description: application/json


$__core_ui_Buttons_new-tiddler.json
Description: application/json


$__core_modules_widgets_button.js.json
Description: application/json


[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread kelsang sherab
I would not mind trying this except I haven no techniacl knowledge of how 
to make it

thanks

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 1:50:17 PM UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> At the moment there are no keyboard shortcuts besides the ones you can 
> define using the keyboard widget, but they only work within a textarea or 
> an input field
>
> I made a pull request for keyboard shortcuts today using the "accesskey" 
> attribute (see here: 
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_accesskey.asp) on buttons. That 
> would let you define a keyboard key, that triggers the new-tiddler button 
> when you press that key in combination with the key that's defined in your 
> browser for accessing access-keys.
>
> I already have it working in a testing wiki and it works really fine. 
> Buttons must be visible to be able to access them or - like in the sidebar 
> by the "retain" attribute of the reveal widget - only hidden visually. That 
> means, if the sidebar is closed one can still access the page-control 
> buttons with an access-key.
>
> If you want to try this out, it's only a small tweak
>
>
> best wishes, BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
Silverfox, I've tested both variants and they both work.

This is your widget with my changes:

/*\
title: $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/d3/CirclePackWidget.js 
D3.js version: V5 plugin
type: application/javascript
module-type: widget

A widget for displaying Zoomable Circle Packing. Derived from 
https://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/7607535

\*/
(function(){

/*jslint node: true, browser: true */
/*global $tw: false */
"use strict";


var Widget = require("$:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js").widget,
d3 = require("$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/d3/d3.js");


var CirclePackWidget = function(parseTreeNode,options) {
this.initialise(parseTreeNode,options);
};

/*
Inherit from the base widget class
*/
CirclePackWidget.prototype = new Widget();

/*
Render this widget into the DOM
*/
CirclePackWidget.prototype.render = function(parent,nextSibling) {
  var self = this; //added by BurningTreeC
// Save the parent dom node
this.parentDomNode = parent;
// Compute our attributes
this.computeAttributes();
// Execute our logic
this.execute();
// Create the chart
var chart = this.createChart(parent,nextSibling);
this.updateChart = chart.updateChart;
if(this.updateChart) {
this.updateChart();
}
// Insert the chart into the DOM and render any children
parent.insertBefore(chart.domNode,nextSibling);
this.domNodes.push(chart.domNode);
};

CirclePackWidget.prototype.createChart = function(parent,nextSibling) {
  var self = this; //added by BurningTreeC
// Get the data we're plotting
var root = this.wiki.getTiddlerData(this.myDataTiddler);
// Create SVG element
var margin = {top: 20, right: 10, bottom: 20, left: 10},
width = 800 - margin.left - margin.right,
height = 800 - margin.top - margin.bottom;
var svg = d3.select(parent).insert("svg",function() {return nextSibling;})
.attr("viewBox", "0 0 800 800")
.attr("preserveAspectRatio", "xMinYMin meet")
.attr("width", width + margin.left + margin.right)
.attr("height", height + margin.top + margin.bottom);

var diameter = +svg.attr("width"),
g = svg.append("g").attr("transform", "translate(2,2)"),
format = d3.format(",d");

var pack = d3.pack()
.size([diameter - 4, diameter - 4]);
var monAction ="";

  root = d3.hierarchy(root)
  .sum(function(d) { return d.size; })
  .sort(function(a, b) { return b.value - a.value; });

  var node = g.selectAll(".node")
.data(pack(root).descendants())
.enter().append("g")
//   .attr("class", function(d) { return d.children ? "node" : "leaf node"; 
})
  .attr("fill", function(d) { return d.children ? "steelblue" : 
"#FFEBCC"; })
  .attr("fill-opacity", function(d) { return d.children ? ".3" : "1"; })
  .attr("stroke", "rgb(31, 119, 180)")
  .attr("stroke-width", "1px")
.attr("stroke-opacity", ".5")
  .attr("transform", function(d) { return "translate(" + d.x + "," + 
d.y + ")"; })
// .on("dblclick",function(d){ alert( "<$action-navigate $to='" 
+d.data.name +"'/>"); });
.on("dblclick",function(d){ monAction = "<$action-navigate $to='" 
+d.data.name +"'/>";
  self.dispatchEvent({type: "tm-navigate", 
navigateTo: d.data.name}); //added by BurningTreeC
}); //was missing


  node.append("title")
  .text(function(d) { return d.data.name + "\n" + format(d.value); })

  

  node.append("circle")
  .attr("r", function(d) { return d.r; });

  node.filter(function(d) { return !d.children; }).append("text")
  .attr("dy", "0.3em")
  .text(function(d) { return d.data.name.substring(0, d.r / 3); })
  .attr("font", "arial")
  .attr("font-size","9px")
  .attr("fill","black")
  .attr("text-anchor","middle")
  ;
  
// Return the svg node
return {
domNode: svg._groups[0][0],
};

};


/*
Compute the internal state of the widget
*/
CirclePackWidget.prototype.execute = function() {
// Get the parameters from the attributes
this.myDataTiddler = this.getAttribute("data");
};

/*
Selectively refreshes the widget if needed. Returns true if the widget or 
any of its children needed re-rendering
*/
CirclePackWidget.prototype.refresh = function(changedTiddlers) {
var changedAttributes = this.computeAttributes();
if(changedAttributes.data || changedTiddlers[this.myDataTiddler]) {
this.refreshSelf();
return true;
} 
return false;
};

exports.d3circlepackclick = CirclePackWidget;

})();



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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
... I use "invokeActionString" if I pass actions to the widget from within 
a tiddler like

<$mywidget actions="<$action-dosomething/>"/>

... and dispatchEvent() if I want to do what you're trying to accomplish.

just look at the widget.js tiddler. all the prototype functions are 
accessible from within your widget with "this.invokeActionString()", 
"this.dispatchEvent()" and so on.
you need to define the "self" variable which saves the "this" variable (if 
it's called variable - I don't know) - because "this" will be something 
different in your ".on('dblclick', function(e) { ... });" - but "self" will 
be the original "this"

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/this

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
alternativelly, as I've looked at d3circlepackclick.js now where you 
have: monAction = "<$action-navigate $to='" +d.data.name +"'/>";

you can use:

self.invokeActionString(monAction,self,d,null);

instead of dispatchEvent() if you have an action string like your 
"monAction"

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
I don't know if this works out-of-the-box but I'd try:

//this on top:
var self = this;

//here your code
//more code

//then this
.on("dblclick",function(d){ 
var targetTiddler = d.data.name;
self.dispatchEvent({type: "tm-navigate", navigateTo: targetTiddler)});
});


dispatchEvent() is defined in widget.js and lets you dispatch an event from 
another widget ... look on tiddlywiki.com and search for "tm-" for a list 
of possible events you can dispatch and their parameters

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
... From within your clicclic function you can also:

self.dispatchEvent({type: "tm-navigate", navigateTo: targetTiddler)});

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
Hi Silverfox,

I think there are different ways one can accomplish what you want to do.

First, I think "this.invokeActions(...)" in your code should be 
"self.invokeActions(...)" and you should define a variable: var self = this 
on top of the scope:

YourWidget.prototype.render = function(parent,nextSibling) { 
var self = this;

...

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread Silverfox
Wahoo... thank you but honestly I'm a bit lost...

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 2:01:44 PM UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Now that I am looking at what I did with SnapSVG it isn't as simple as I 
> had remembered.
>
> The simplest way would be to make a widget based on the button widget, for 
> the snapsvg plugin I made I created a new widget for it that was more 
> general.
>
> Unfortunately neither of those is quick and both probably require some 
> in-depth knowledge of tiddlywiki. If you want to see an example here is the 
> widget I made for SnapSVG:
>
>
> https://github.com/inmysocks/TW5-SnapSVG/blob/master/Javascript/SnapWidget.js
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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread BurningTreeC
At the moment there are no keyboard shortcuts besides the ones you can 
define using the keyboard widget, but they only work within a textarea or 
an input field

I made a pull request for keyboard shortcuts today using the "accesskey" 
attribute (see here: 
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_accesskey.asp) on buttons. That 
would let you define a keyboard key, that triggers the new-tiddler button 
when you press that key in combination with the key that's defined in your 
browser for accessing access-keys.

I already have it working in a testing wiki and it works really fine. 
Buttons must be visible to be able to access them or - like in the sidebar 
by the "retain" attribute of the reveal widget - only hidden visually. That 
means, if the sidebar is closed one can still access the page-control 
buttons with an access-key.

If you want to try this out, it's only a small tweak


best wishes, BTC

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
This is an odd bug. It is using the shadow tiddlers instead of the normal 
tiddlers overwriting them. It is either caused by a change in 5.1.17 or by 
the change that fixed the infinite loop when importing images.

It may be a bit before I track down a fix that won't break something else.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Ed
Hear, hear,

I really can understand you plea for the excecutable

Also great Stobot, that you were trying out multi-acces feature.I will have 
36 people in the audience
end of May so I could divide them in groups, actually hope that everocy can 
bring his laptop in the theatre.

If something is going amiss, well that will teach us something, of course 
I''l forewarn the group, that this 
is just version 01. They're supposed to be the kind of people who are very 
inquisitve, so there really seems 
no harm in it.

If anybody else would try out multi-acces with a group of people adding 
tiddlers, just starting new tiddler, 
write some text and close it again to save, then I surely would love to 
hear about the results.

Tschüß, Edm.
= = = = = = =
.
.

Op zondag 13 mei 2018 14:05:52 UTC+2 schreef Stobot:
>
> Jed - again thank you so much
>
> I'm seeing the same thing as Ed with the settings - noticing on both 
> toolbars and the "fluid story" setting which I always change. 
>
> As far as users, the best I was able to test was at work with 8 of us. I 
> setup a edit-text and button to add tiddlers and had all of us add as much 
> as we could, as fast as we could. Worked flawlessly under those conditions 
> - even with people all over the country, some connecting in via VPN to be 
> on-network. I agree that simultaneous edits would be a tougher test, but I 
> plan to design somewhat around that to mitigate it a bit. 
>
> Arlen mentioned "don't need executable" - so for what it's worth I feel 
> much differently :) I've been using TiddlyWiki a very long time and relied 
> heavily on TiddlyLock back in what are now the "classic days" for all of my 
> multi-editor wikis. Not until your plugin did I have something that works, 
> and was simple enough to understand for a casual non-IT windows user. I 
> read this community's comments every day and I know the ones most vocal 
> have the knowledge to handle the "normal" solution, but I've been 
> completely lost when trying to figure out any of the other server variants, 
> and I assume I'm not alone, though I certainly *feel* like I'm in the 
> minority. People like me know 0 javascript, know very little about git 
> (have only interacted with it to download your executable) and know very 
> little about how servers work etc. Regardless of my constraints, I've 
> introduced *hundreds* of people at my company alone to TiddlyWiki. I only 
> rant about this because I really want TiddlyWiki to grow and thrive, and I 
> want to make sure the community has a full picture of who their audience 
> is. I suspect if we took the number or readers of this Google Group and 
> subtracted the number of contributors, we'd find a lot like me. 
>
> All of which is to say I'm very thankful that you Jed - and the rest of 
> the contributors continue to support this awesome software!
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 7:11:58 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> Xavier,
>>
>> Every time I fix something some old bug comes back. Thank you for letting 
>> me know, I will try and find it. We may get Bob 1.0.1 sooner than I hoped.
>>
>

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[tw5] What happened to my tiddler Type field?

2018-05-13 Thread Jim


Good morning. 


I'm not sure what I did but does anyone know how to fix this?




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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
Stobot,

Thanks for testing! That is really good to hear, I was worried about that.

And I should stop referring to the plugin version as the normal version. It 
is normal in the sense as being the closest to just tiddlywiki, but from 
the response to this plugin it isn't the most commonly used method.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Stobot
Jed - again thank you so much

I'm seeing the same thing as Ed with the settings - noticing on both 
toolbars and the "fluid story" setting which I always change. 

As far as users, the best I was able to test was at work with 8 of us. I 
setup a edit-text and button to add tiddlers and had all of us add as much 
as we could, as fast as we could. Worked flawlessly under those conditions 
- even with people all over the country, some connecting in via VPN to be 
on-network. I agree that simultaneous edits would be a tougher test, but I 
plan to design somewhat around that to mitigate it a bit. 

Arlen mentioned "don't need executable" - so for what it's worth I feel 
much differently :) I've been using TiddlyWiki a very long time and relied 
heavily on TiddlyLock back in what are now the "classic days" for all of my 
multi-editor wikis. Not until your plugin did I have something that works, 
and was simple enough to understand for a casual non-IT windows user. I 
read this community's comments every day and I know the ones most vocal 
have the knowledge to handle the "normal" solution, but I've been 
completely lost when trying to figure out any of the other server variants, 
and I assume I'm not alone, though I certainly *feel* like I'm in the 
minority. People like me know 0 javascript, know very little about git 
(have only interacted with it to download your executable) and know very 
little about how servers work etc. Regardless of my constraints, I've 
introduced *hundreds* of people at my company alone to TiddlyWiki. I only 
rant about this because I really want TiddlyWiki to grow and thrive, and I 
want to make sure the community has a full picture of who their audience 
is. I suspect if we took the number or readers of this Google Group and 
subtracted the number of contributors, we'd find a lot like me. 

All of which is to say I'm very thankful that you Jed - and the rest of the 
contributors continue to support this awesome software!

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 7:11:58 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Xavier,
>
> Every time I fix something some old bug comes back. Thank you for letting 
> me know, I will try and find it. We may get Bob 1.0.1 sooner than I hoped.
>

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
Now that I am looking at what I did with SnapSVG it isn't as simple as I 
had remembered.

The simplest way would be to make a widget based on the button widget, for 
the snapsvg plugin I made I created a new widget for it that was more 
general.

Unfortunately neither of those is quick and both probably require some 
in-depth knowledge of tiddlywiki. If you want to see an example here is the 
widget I made for SnapSVG:

https://github.com/inmysocks/TW5-SnapSVG/blob/master/Javascript/SnapWidget.js

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[tw5] Re: How to click on a D3 (svg) object to open a tiddler ?

2018-05-13 Thread Silverfox
My skills are definitely too limited...

Here is what I've done : 

D3 double click entent activates a "cliclic" function 

in this function I wrote : 

> function cliclic(targetTiddler) {

//   alert("node " + targetTiddler + " was double clicked");

  console.log("targetTiddler",targetTiddler);

console.log("event",event.type);  

var d3Click = this.invokeActions(targetTiddler,event.type); 
>   

console.log("d3Click",d3Click);

}

 


But this returns a script error "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 
'invokeActions' of undefined"

I really do not catch how to use it all...

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
I believe that the files that end with ~ are lock files that are meant to 
prevent multiple applications from changing the same file at the same time. 
But I am not certain.

And the problem you are describing is the same as what Xavier mentioned, 
for some reason shadow tiddlers are not being saved. This happened before 
and I fixed it but something I did during the last update broke it again.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
Xavier,

Every time I fix something some old bug comes back. Thank you for letting 
me know, I will try and find it. We may get Bob 1.0.1 sooner than I hoped.

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Re: [tw5] [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Xavier Cazin
Hi Jed,

Thanks, I'm eager to test Bob further! One glitch I just noticed, though:
after the update, I can't seem to be able to tweak the theme from the
control panel, or even change the theme: the new value is saved, but it
looks like it is then reversed to its previous state, as if the shadow
value took control back.

Cheers,
X.

-- Xavier Cazin

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:

> Bob version 1.0.0 is now available.
>
> It is the renamed version of the MultiUser plugin. For people who aren't
> familiar with the old MultiUser plugin the basic features are:
>
> - Serve multiple wikis
> - Two-way syncing of changes between the browser and file system
> - Multiple people can use and edit served wikis simultaneously
> - A static file server for images and other media (include files from the
> local file system in the wiki)
>
> Changes from the last version of the MultiUser plugin are:
> - Changing the name
> - Adding a message that lets you stop queued scripts in progress
>
> Plugin repo: https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>
> Single executable version: https://github.com/OokTech/
> TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.0
>
> Let me know if you find bugs.
>
>
> Updating to Bob from MultiUser will take a few changes.
>
> single executable version
>
> If you are using the single executable version then you will need to edit
> the tiddlywiki.info file in the IndexWiki folder. There is a line
> (probably line 4) that reads
> "OokTech/MultiUser"
> change that line to
> "OokTech/Bob"
>
> plugin version
>
> If you are using the plugin version, in addition to changing the
> tiddlywiki.info file for your root wiki, you will need to either: 1)
> change the remote url of the plugin repo or 2) just delete the old plugin
> and clone Bob again.
>
> Other than that, everything should be compatible.
>
>
> If you want to support the development OokTech has a patreon page here
> https://www.patreon.com/OokTech
> or if you prefer there  is a link for PayPal here
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick_
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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Bob version 1.0.0 Sourdough (formerly MultiUser)

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
I am answering the last questions from the previous MultiUser thread here 
to move to a shorter thread for people using this in the browser and 
because they are relevant here. So please put new replies in this thread 
instead.

Ed,

1) I have added more default mime-types so as long as I didn't miss any 
that you want to use you won't have to edit it. But if you do make a 
mimeMap in the settings it takes precedence over the default version. 
Unfortunately at the moment removing objects from the settings json isn't 
quite as straight forward as removing single field properties. To remove 
your custom mime-map first either rename or delete the tiddler 
$:/WikiSettings/split/mimeMap and then in the settings in the 
$:/ControlPanel it should show 
"mimeMap": "$:/WikiSettings/split/mimeMap"
and if you click on the value $:/WikiSettings/split/mimeMap it should let 
you delete it like a normal field.

2) The "suppressBrowser": "" line is a property that doesn't have a value. 
If this is set to true than the browser won't open automatically when you 
start up the single executable version of Bob. Having extra or unused 
properties in the settings doesn't cause any problems other than possibly 
visual clutter.

3) I am glad it works well! I am not sure if much of the praise for it 
working on old hardware should go to me, that sounds like praise for Jeremy 
and the tiddlywiki devs who have worked on making it efficient.

4) I have no idea how many people could simultaneously edit a wiki at the 
same time, I haven't had a chance to have more than 3 active people on the 
same wiki at one time. I did a test where I had 10 or 15 browser windows 
open at the same time and they all had their own connection without any 
trouble, but that isn't the same as simultaneous editors. To my knowledge 
there is no built-in limit to the number of simultaneous connections the 
server can support so the limit would probably come from hardware or 
communication limitations. This may be a much longer answer than you were 
hoping for.

I hope that it could easily support 36 people, each new connection adds 
almost no overhead on the server. I expect that the biggest problem would 
be people getting in each others way if they are all trying to edit 
simultaneously. Another problems is tiddler naming, the only mechanism for 
preventing overwrites of tiddlers is that the edit button is disabled. If 
you have 10 people who try to create a tiddler with the same name (like New 
Tiddler), each one will overwrite the previous persons edits.

There isn't a lot of communication required between the server and the 
browser. There is the initial page load over http(s) which may be slow for 
people if you have everyone trying to load it at the same time. That 
shouldn't kill the server, just slow it down.

When editing a tiddler normally (clicking on the edit button or new tiddler 
button) there is only one message sent when the tiddler is saved. I have 
been able to import single file wikis that have hundreds of tiddlers into a 
Bob wiki without any trouble and for that each tiddler gets its own message 
sent. That is from one connection instead of having a hundred different 
messages on a hundred connections, I don't know if that would make a 
difference.

I have not had a wiki crash because of too many simultaneous edits but it 
may be possible. I think that a more likely result is losing edits, someone 
may create a tiddler that doesn't get saved by the server if there are too 
many tiddlers being created at one time. I haven't seen this happen yet, 
but I think that is the most likely problem.

Tony,

Let me know if you run into any problems!

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-13 Thread Jed Carty
New questions should move over to the thread about the release of Bob v 
1.0.0 so that this is usable for people using the web interface.

Ed,

I will put your answers in the new thread.

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[tw5] Re: what's the keyboard shortcut for new tiddler???

2018-05-13 Thread Sebastián Ortega
If not, is there any way to set it up one?

On Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:19:29 UTC+2, kelsang sherab wrote:
>
> is there a keyboard shortcut for new tiddler?
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Re: [tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

2018-05-13 Thread 'Vytas' via TiddlyWiki
Thomas,

it is a pleasure to read the thoughts and experience you share! It is great 
that you can share and show a part of process you go through. This makes 
the group richer!

You mentioned *"In all my main wikis". *When do you know it is time to 
start a new wiki? It seemed to me that there are many people here of the 
opinion that one can lose a big advantage of TW being a single 
file/database with a search function, if you have more than one wiki. What 
do you think?

By the way, the article is also interesting. But I'll will push you a 
little bit with respect to* "many aspects of learning I learned (and 
maintain) through TW". *How does *TW* help with 
*" * know, when to take a break*
*  * know, that the best ideas often come during the break (while jogging 
in my case)*
*  * realize, when something is good enough"*?

Best wishes!

Vytas

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