Re: [tw5] Re: Todolist Plugin: A wonderful Tiny to-do got new update (1.2.0)

[Pumin Wuvanich]

 hi Mohammad,

Just wonder if you plan to support due date / scheduled tasks ?

Thanks a lot,
Pumin
On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 1:47:18 PM UTC+7 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> I finally settled with Thomas Elmiger’s ToDoNow plug in along with 
> tgrosinger’s checklist plug in. I made ToDo tiddlers like Monday Breakfast, 
> Monday Lunch , Monday Dinner and so on from the ToDoNow Dashboard. Within 
> each of these ToDo tiddlers, I made a list of items to be made for that 
> particular time using tgrosinger’s checklist plug in. 
> I repeated this for all seven days of a week and set a deadline for all 
> these ToDo tiddlers. Once a deadline is completed, I will just change the 
> date to the same day of next week. That’s the planned workflow currently.
>
>
> For Carbocommander to work I will have to make a separate journal or daily 
> note tiddler daily.
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:04 PM arun babu  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mohammed for the reply. That's fine. I am still experimenting with 
>> it and will find some way out, maybe make some changes to the workflow i am 
>> planning.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arun
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:43 PM Mohammad Rahmani  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again Arun
>>> I actually did not implant any time reminder so I do not know how to do 
>>> that. I also think the reminder only works if you keep Tiddlywiki open in 
>>> the browser.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 7:10 PM arun babu  wrote:
>>>
 The last line in the above reply was supposed to be deleted. Please 
 ignore that line.

 Thanks,
 Arun.

 On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 8:07 PM arun babu  wrote:

> @Mohammed and PMario
>
>- Reason behind this request is that only I will be with my child 
>during the daytime for the next month or so. There is only one child 
> who is 2 
>and 1/2 yrs old now. So I have to take care of his food and hence it’s 
> a 
>temporary arrangement. But a long term plan was to track his daily 
> nutrient 
>intake using Carbocommander.  For this reason, a daily notes page 
>or journal page was central to my plan. 
>- Open the daily notes (journal) page and enter the food items for 
>that day in a checklist fashion - this was my initial plan. I wanted 
> to 
>avoid frequent repetition of the same food items. So I listed out 
> different 
>food items for each day in a week and thought of repeating it weekly.
>- Since projectify and ToDoNow use a central dashboard like 
>approach I couldn’t use them. So initially I used grosinger’s 
>checklist plug in for testing my plan out. It was working fine. 
>- But then I found "multiple list features" in Todolist a few days 
>back and I thought that it can help me to break each day into 
> breakfast, 
>lunch, dinner and so on easily. This is shown in the demo wiki.
>- Then what I needed was a template function to automatically 
>populate each day's food checklist into the respective daily notes 
> page. I 
>tried using the view-template option and snippets. Temporarily settled 
> with 
>snippets as of now. That’s what I was showing in the demo wiki. But 
> now I 
>understand that I will have to uncheck the checklist items when I use 
> it 
>the next time if I am using the snippet feature. Is there any other 
> way of auto-populating 
>the checklist for a particular day?  If nothing is working, I am 
>ok with manually typing each day's food plan. 
>- Then yesterday while checking the todo apps again, I got 
>interested in the remainder feature in ToDoNow.  If I could add a time 
> to 
>each todo which gives a remainder on reaching the deadline, that would 
> be 
>useful. I also have some daily todos other than these food checklists. 
> So a 
>remainder based on time (not date) will be a very useful feature. 
>
>
> To answer Mohammed's questions
>
>1. Do you want to only have a time stamp or you need the 
>functionality of ToDoNow!  - I need to add a particular time to 
>each todo as a deadline (not as a date)
>2. Does that mean to have a reminder? - Reason for adding a 
>particular time of a day is to receive notification or reminder on 
> reaching 
>the deadline.
>
> To answer PMario's questions
>
>1. You intend to create journals that contain the "copy" of a 
>predefined "plan" for 1 day --- Yes 
>2. This journal will be active for 1 day and then it may be 
>archived (no edit possible anymore.) --- Partly yes. I am thinking of 
>repeating the plan weekly on the same day (Monday plan will be 
> repeated on 
>the next Monday). How to repeat the plan is the other question - by 
> usi

[tw5] Re: New magic of $list widget in Tiddlywiki 5.1.24: The index attribute

[Mat]

Mohammad wrote:

> The $list widget in 5.1.24 has got a new attribute index!
>

Seems to be missing in the release notes 
.
 

> It is everywhere like a nice dog!
>

LOL! If it is everywhere, isn't it more like mosquitos then? But nice ones?

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

Going from attachments to code posted in posts, I want to make sure that 
the latest version I have working is available as something that can be 
imported into any TiddlyWiki.

So my most current version is attached, and it has:

   - has an option to display google calendar
   - a few sample links to TiddlyWiki.com/static tiddlers
   - a few sample links to Wikipedia articles, accessing the mobile version 
   of wiki pages
   - the tiddler is renamed to more generic "Refs"


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Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

But that's not an issue in the updated version I posted a little bit after 
walt's message.

On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 1:21:49 AM UTC-3 Mohammad wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:19 PM ludwa6  wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; after 
>> the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality seems 
>> to have been compromised.
>> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does 
>> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>>
>
> The problem with the sidebar is the currentTiddler variable! Use
>
> <$select tiddler="yourTid" field="curr-topic">
>
> and everywhere replace {{!!curr-topic}} with {{yourTid!!curr-topic}}
>
>>
>> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's macro 
>> definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, and that 
>> seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so well if 
>> it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>
>> \define AddTopic(topic) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>
>> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>   link
>> 
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
>>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
>>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:

> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to 
> be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
> about 
> this problem would be appreciated!


 Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
 \define AddTopic(topic) >>> [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
 }}}>$topic$

 <$select field="curr-topic">
 <>
 <>
 <>
   link
 

 Notes:
 * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
 uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all 
 special URI characters, not just space.
 * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
 tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
 corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
 {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
 transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
 {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used to 
 show a different selected topic.

 enjoy,
 -e 

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[tw5] Re: Just a neat use of Relinks "References" feature

[Charlie Veniot]

{{||$:/plugins/flibbles/relink/ui/TiddlerInfo/References}}

That will give slightly preformated content, so list of links to 
referencing tiddlers, preceded by the header "The following tiddlers 
contain fields, links, macros, transclusions, or widgets referencing this 
one:"

<$list 
filter="[relink:references!title[$:/StoryList]sort[title]]"/> 
was just to demonstrate that the real value is in the filter 
[relink:references!title[$:/StoryList]sort[title]].  As is, 
that list widget example does the same thing as the transclusion minus the 
header, and that's not so much of a big deal.

It's just that using a list widget provides way more flexibility than the 
transclusion.  The list can be formatted however anybody could want, having 
a modal per tiddler instead of a link per tiddler, or maybe setup the list 
of tiddlers in a table instead of a list, or whatever other custom 
layout/formatting.
On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 1:18:32 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:

> What does it do?
>
> On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 15:18:01 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dig into that relink tiddler a little and one quickly discovers that one 
>> can do this:
>>
>> <$list 
>> filter="[relink:references!title[$:/StoryList]sort[title]]"/>
>>
>> Woo-holy-guacamole-hoo!  Rock'n Roll !
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:09:34 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> {{||$:/plugins/flibbles/relink/ui/TiddlerInfo/References}}
>>>
>>> Slap that in the text of a tiddler (say tiddler A) and you will get a 
>>> list of every reference to tiddler A from pretty much everywhere:
>>>
>>>- any field (text and any other field including custom fields)
>>>- any transclusion
>>>- any link
>>>- any macro
>>>- any widget
>>>
>>> Kind of cool.
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:19 PM ludwa6  wrote:

> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; after
> the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality seems
> to have been compromised.
> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does
> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>

The problem with the sidebar is the currentTiddler variable! Use

<$select tiddler="yourTid" field="curr-topic">

and everywhere replace {{!!curr-topic}} with {{yourTid!!curr-topic}}

>
> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's macro
> definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, and that
> seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so well if
> it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
>
> \define AddTopic(topic)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Eric: Thanbk you.
>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like
>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix
 clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error
 msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to
 be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to
 remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about
 this problem would be appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> <$select field="curr-topic">
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>   link
>>> 
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter uses
>>> "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all special
>>> URI characters, not just space.
>>> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current
>>> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the
>>> corresponding  and  params simply fetch
>>> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you
>>> transclude the above content as a template (e.g.,
>>> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used to
>>> show a different selected topic.
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Just a neat use of Relinks "References" feature

[TW Tones]

What does it do?

On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 15:18:01 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dig into that relink tiddler a little and one quickly discovers that one 
> can do this:
>
> <$list 
> filter="[relink:references!title[$:/StoryList]sort[title]]"/>
>
> Woo-holy-guacamole-hoo!  Rock'n Roll !
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:09:34 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> {{||$:/plugins/flibbles/relink/ui/TiddlerInfo/References}}
>>
>> Slap that in the text of a tiddler (say tiddler A) and you will get a 
>> list of every reference to tiddler A from pretty much everywhere:
>>
>>- any field (text and any other field including custom fields)
>>- any transclusion
>>- any link
>>- any macro
>>- any widget
>>
>> Kind of cool.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: New magic of $list widget in Tiddlywiki 5.1.24: The index attribute

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Tones,
 Good points! Like you said, I believe the base 0 or 1 should be set by the
user! The PR has been recently merged and It is good
to write your feedback there.


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 8:10 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> Mohammad,
>
> I have long wanted this mechaisium my self. There are ways to emulate it,
> but a direct index variable is ideal.
>
> I wonder if the feature can be supported by the existing caching since
> this will have many possible uses and does become important when lists get
> longer. A zero OR one based index would also be helpful to avoid adding one
> every time in many cases.
>
> There are a whole class of situations when knowing the position is useful,
> the set index parameter can be used to access the nth item in a list, so
> you could use one list to map to another eg days of the week, 1, mon,
> monday etc...
>
> Also when generating a list then being able to enter a range of start and
> end values etc...
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Sunday, 25 April 2021 at 01:22:40 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> You may now, the $list widget, is the most common widget you use in
>> Tiddlywiki! It is everywhere like a nice dog!
>>
>> The $list widget in 5.1.24 has got a new attribute index! in which the
>> numeric index of each listed tiddler is stored  It can produce very nice
>> results like below
>>
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[About]sort[title]]" index="index">
>> 
>> <>: ''<$text text=<>/>'' (is first: <>, 
>> is last: <>)
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Displays as:
>>
>> 0: Acknowledgements (is first: yes, is last: no)
>> 1: Contributors (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 2: History of TiddlyWiki (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 3: License (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 4: Releases (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 5: RoadMap (is first: no, is last: yes)
>>
>> Ah this is lovely!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Experimental Chromium native saver

[TW Tones]

Folks,

This may be the opportunity to simplify saving and give the local storage 
plugin or its equivalent safe access to the local system. Thus users can 
access a read only online resource and use it as if it were a local app, 
with their own data stored locally.

Any way to reduce the complexity of using, especially saving tiddlywiki(s) 
will increase adoption. If the logic and and setup can be included in the 
original wiki then they become eminently deployable with self documented 
setups. This could include backups, localisation or cloning, I can quickly 
do this now with Timimi already in place, if such facilities can be 
introduced without a two step, browser specific install, all the better. 
Yes, all the appropriate authorisation is needed for security.

Tones




On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 17:42:18 UTC+10 Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> Hi Dyllon,
>
>
> I wrote a small module for saving using the Chromium file system API 
> (which is in the process of being standardized).
>
> Example TiddlyWiki 5 Saver Using HTML 5 File System Access API (github.com) 
> 
>
>
> Great stuff, I’ve been following the File System API with interest, and 
> would be keen to get a saver in the core once the spec settles down.
>
> Here’s a link for those unfamiliar:
>
> https://web.dev/file-system-access/
>
> I don’t know if any other browsers are planning to implement the API. It 
> seems like an obvious requirement for ChromeOS, but perhaps other browsers 
> will have less incentive to implement.
>
> The first time a save action is triggered, it prompts for a save location 
> but future saves should go to the same location.
>
> It's a bit dangerous because if saving fails, there is no way AFAIK to 
> disable the saver after it loads. I would be interested to know if anyone 
> knows a way to disable a saver after it has already loaded.
>
>
> I think you’re already following the correct approach: for the save() 
> method to synchronously return false if the save cannot proceed so that the 
> next saver in the cascade gets a chance.
>
> Another thought with respect to the File System API is that it may be 
> possible to write a syncadaptor module so that we can support TiddlyWiki 
> folders containing individual .tid files in the browser.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Should tags be singular or plural?

[TW Tones]

TT,

In a wide range of applications the plural and singular help guide the 
meaning. An example may be a book(s) database. So if I tag something as a 
book then there will be a view/tiddler called books that lists them. 
Perhaps a plugin to handle this would make sense, so it can be adopted when 
appropriate. As we know a tag need not have a tiddler by the same name, but 
what if that tiddler if opened listed all items so tagged (unless 
defeated), or a virtual plural tiddler existed eg books when book exists 
listing all items tagged book?

Perhaps we could just flag tags that represent instances of items so tagged 
eg contact if named/flagged automatically creates a contacts list. One 
which will be listed if you open/create the contacts tiddler.

Personally I would be inclined to move this into a field such as 
object-type which on giving it values of "contact or book" a suite of tools 
become active for handling contacts and books.

   - Tiddlers that list tiddlers so tagged (selectable sorts)
   - Filter that refers to all items so tagged
   - A view that shows all other fields associated to tiddlers so tagged

The point being when I use tiddlywiki to undertake a wide range of 
functions there immediately arises the need to add predictable support from 
templates, to lists, filters and statistics which I think we could 
automate, making the solutions design process somewhat automatic.

Tones 

On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 17:53:36 UTC+10 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

>  TW Tones wrote:
>
>> We could automate the use of singular and plural tags at least in some 
>> wikis.
>>
>> Ie any tiddler that has a title tagname+s lists the tiddlers with tagname
>>
>
> Could you give an example where *auto-convert* of tag would add value? 
>
> It could help clarify the issue.
>
> Best wishes
> TT 
>

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[tw5] Re: New magic of $list widget in Tiddlywiki 5.1.24: The index attribute

[TW Tones]

Mohammad,

I have long wanted this mechaisium my self. There are ways to emulate it, 
but a direct index variable is ideal. 

I wonder if the feature can be supported by the existing caching since this 
will have many possible uses and does become important when lists get 
longer. A zero OR one based index would also be helpful to avoid adding one 
every time in many cases.

There are a whole class of situations when knowing the position is useful, 
the set index parameter can be used to access the nth item in a list, so 
you could use one list to map to another eg days of the week, 1, mon, 
monday etc...

Also when generating a list then being able to enter a range of start and 
end values etc...

Regards
Tones


On Sunday, 25 April 2021 at 01:22:40 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:

> You may now, the $list widget, is the most common widget you use in 
> Tiddlywiki! It is everywhere like a nice dog!
>
> The $list widget in 5.1.24 has got a new attribute index! in which the 
> numeric index of each listed tiddler is stored  It can produce very nice 
> results like below
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[About]sort[title]]" index="index">
> 
> <>: ''<$text text=<>/>'' (is first: <>, 
> is last: <>)
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Displays as:
>
> 0: Acknowledgements (is first: yes, is last: no)
> 1: Contributors (is first: no, is last: no)
> 2: History of TiddlyWiki (is first: no, is last: no)
> 3: License (is first: no, is last: no)
> 4: Releases (is first: no, is last: no)
> 5: RoadMap (is first: no, is last: yes)
>
> Ah this is lovely!
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

I've got this funny thought, maybe completely off, that folk who like and 
are good at APL can easily be TiddlyWiki masters.

Folk like myself who like and are good at relational algebra, the math of 
SQL, can maybe come in a close second.

Maybe.  Just funny thoughts floating around in my sponge.

I'm, SQL aside, a 3GL/4GL programming kind of guy, which may be helpful 
somewhat.  Not being much of a fan of C/C++/javascript, and having no 
exposure to PHP and other languages, I'm not sure how helpful those would 
be as foundations for TiddlyWiki Master.  Maybe awesome, maybe not.

Regardless, the programming geek side of me would love to see comparisons 
re programming languages as useful foundations for TiddlyWiki programming.

There.  If one is going to digress, might as well go for broke ...

Let me see what kind of little introduction to macros video I can put 
together tomorrow.  It will be very very basic.



On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:31:00 PM UTC-3 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> Aha @Charlie a legal cheater ;)
> I do know some C, a bit php (be it rusty) and i still write bash-scripts.
> So yes! A q&d macro demo, bring it n :-)
>
> (maybe in an online session somewhere?? :-)  )
>
> Ray
>
> Op za 24 apr. 2021 om 22:18 schreef Hans Wobbe :
>
>> @ludwa6: Walt:
>>
>> I made a few tweaks to Eric's code to suit my own uses.  I did not put 
>> this into my sidebar, by now, you know that would be relatively simple to 
>> do.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; 
>>> after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality 
>>> seems to have been compromised.
>>> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does 
>>> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>>>
>>> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's 
>>> macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, 
>>> and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so 
>>> well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>>>
>>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>>
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>   link
>>> >> width="100%">
>>>
>>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 @Eric: Thanbk you.  
 This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
 TiddlyWikiLinks.

 Cheers,
 Hans

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems 
>> to be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
>> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
>> about 
>> this problem would be appreciated!
>
>
> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
> \define AddTopic(topic)  [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
> }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select field="curr-topic">
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> Notes:
> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
> uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all 
> special URI characters, not just space.
> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used 
> to show a different selected topic.
>
> enjoy,
> -e 
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[tw5] Re: Change the color of the tag-pill macro?

[PMario]

Hi,
I'm not really sure what you want. But every tag can be a tiddler eg: done. 
[1]

If you edit the "done" tag you can change the "color" and the "icon" field. 

Is that what you want?
-mario

[1] https://tiddlywiki.com/#done

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[tw5] Re: Datatable Integration in TW5

[PMario]

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:34:35 PM UTC+2 dode...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you for your feedback. The alternatives look nice but i miss 
> grouping. So tioday I wrote my own javascript version without jQuery. I 
> hope to integrate it in TiddlyWiki on Monday. For a demo see: 
> https://jsfiddle.net/Joost75/0tad8hgu/#&togetherjs=OzCsdP3kCO


Nice code and nice looking table! 

But that's not, how TW works. TW has it's own rendering mechanism, similar 
to react, which constantly updates the DOM according to tiddler state. TW 
stores everything in tiddlers. 

The whole UI state, is stored in tiddlers. The TW DOM is rewritten with 
every key press or UI interaction if needed.

So as soon as you click a button, or edit a tiddler, your DOM structure 
will be destroyed and your sorting will start from zero. 

You'll need to create a TW widget, if you want to use JS code. But I think 
that's not necessary. 

>From your OP and JsFiddler 1 journal entry is 1 tiddler. ad looks similar 
to this. eg:

title:  CC Vision 
category: CC SA
period: Q2
assignee: abc

A sorted "by period" table should look like this: 

[image: table-example-01.gif]
That's nice.  I'm not sure, what the "selector" is for. 

I'm pretty sure, that all of this can be done with pure wikitext, without 
any javascript code. ... 

I personally would add a tag to every tiddler eg: journal, which will allow 
me to easily select "all" jouernals. It's also possible, to select all 
tiddlers that have a field "period" or "category" ... It only needs to be 
sure, that those fields exist. ...

Your table looks very similar to the core "timeline" macro. So I'd start 
from there: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#timeline%20Macro:%5B%5Btimeline%20Macro%5D%5D%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2Ftimeline%20%5B%5Btimeline%20Macro%20(Examples)%5D%5D

Just some thoughts. 
-mario

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Re: [tw5] Presenting: list-table-draggable - drag'n drop rows of data

[Mat]

Updated  v.0.0.7

Drag'n drop reordering should now work properly.
Thanks @History Buff.

<:-)

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:41:21 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:

> @note2 - yeah, perhaps an official plugin. Or maybe something like the 
> list-links macro could be replaced with a more generic solution to present 
> items with a template.
>
> @Mohammad - yes, as you understood, updating one list also updates the 
> other lists that use the same list field. I kind of think there is some 
> value in seeing this to think that very thought. 
>
> @History Buff - Darn, I agree; *something is not working with the DnD*! I 
> have to look into this. Thanks for reporting.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:47:34 PM UTC+2 History Buff wrote:
>
>> I like this. However, in the examples, I tried to arrange one through 
>> four top to bottom and could never get there. I may have not been doing 
>> something right, but the behavior didn't seem consistent from one drop to 
>> the next.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:46:20 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Mat,
>>>  Nice idea! Clever solution!
>>>
>>> One minor comment: (ignore)
>>> In the demo page of plugin I tried reorder rows in example two and then 
>>> I saw other examples updated! I know the reason!
>>> But I suggest what do you think if a stateTiddler or variable is used 
>>> here so it keeps tables independent!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 5:44 PM Mat  wrote:
>>>
 *"Don't be a square. Be a table."* 
 - Aristotle

 The *TWaddleur* proudly presents
 list-table-draggable 
 ~ structured data in draggable rows ~

 Where the core macros *list-links-draggable* and 
 *list-tagged-draggable* merely shows each list item as the *title*, 
 the rendered list, *list-table-draggable* lets you show each list item 
 as a *row with complex data*.

 The data is presented in a *table* e.g styled like tab-separated values 
 :

 [image: tsv.png]

 ...and, as noted, you might want to drag'n drop to rearrange them.

 <:-)

 P.S I think this functionality should be possible by default in TW. Do 
 you agree?

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Re: [tw5] Presenting: list-table-draggable - drag'n drop rows of data

[Mat]

@note2 - yeah, perhaps an official plugin. Or maybe something like the 
list-links macro could be replaced with a more generic solution to present 
items with a template.

@Mohammad - yes, as you understood, updating one list also updates the 
other lists that use the same list field. I kind of think there is some 
value in seeing this to think that very thought. 

@History Buff - Darn, I agree; *something is not working with the DnD*! I 
have to look into this. Thanks for reporting.

<:-)

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:47:34 PM UTC+2 History Buff wrote:

> I like this. However, in the examples, I tried to arrange one through four 
> top to bottom and could never get there. I may have not been doing 
> something right, but the behavior didn't seem consistent from one drop to 
> the next.
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:46:20 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Mat,
>>  Nice idea! Clever solution!
>>
>> One minor comment: (ignore)
>> In the demo page of plugin I tried reorder rows in example two and then I 
>> saw other examples updated! I know the reason!
>> But I suggest what do you think if a stateTiddler or variable is used 
>> here so it keeps tables independent!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 5:44 PM Mat  wrote:
>>
>>> *"Don't be a square. Be a table."* 
>>> - Aristotle
>>>
>>> The *TWaddleur* proudly presents
>>> list-table-draggable 
>>> ~ structured data in draggable rows ~
>>>
>>> Where the core macros *list-links-draggable* and *list-tagged-draggable* 
>>> merely 
>>> shows each list item as the *title*, the rendered list, 
>>> *list-table-draggable* lets you show each list item as a *row 
>>> with complex data*.
>>>
>>> The data is presented in a *table* e.g styled like tab-separated values 
>>> :
>>>
>>> [image: tsv.png]
>>>
>>> ...and, as noted, you might want to drag'n drop to rearrange them.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>> P.S I think this functionality should be possible by default in TW. Do 
>>> you agree?
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Ray Vermey]

Aha @Charlie a legal cheater ;)
I do know some C, a bit php (be it rusty) and i still write bash-scripts.
So yes! A q&d macro demo, bring it n :-)

(maybe in an online session somewhere?? :-)  )

Ray

Op za 24 apr. 2021 om 22:18 schreef Hans Wobbe :

> @ludwa6: Walt:
>
> I made a few tweaks to Eric's code to suit my own uses.  I did not put
> this into my sidebar, by now, you know that would be relatively simple to
> do.
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; after
>> the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality seems
>> to have been compromised.
>> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does
>> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>>
>> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's macro
>> definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, and that
>> seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so well if
>> it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>
>> \define AddTopic(topic) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>
>> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>   link
>> 
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Eric: Thanbk you.
>>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like
>>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:

> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix
> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error
> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to
> be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to
> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about
> this problem would be appreciated!


 Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
 \define AddTopic(topic) >>> [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]]
 }}}>$topic$

 <$select field="curr-topic">
 <>
 <>
 <>
   link
 

 Notes:
 * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter
 uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all
 special URI characters, not just space.
 * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current
 tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the
 corresponding  and  params simply fetch
 {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you
 transclude the above content as a template (e.g.,
 {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used to
 show a different selected topic.

 enjoy,
 -e

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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Hans Wobbe]

@ludwa6: Walt:

I made a few tweaks to Eric's code to suit my own uses.  I did not put this 
into my sidebar, by now, you know that would be relatively simple to do.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:

> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; after 
> the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality seems 
> to have been compromised.
> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does 
> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>
> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's macro 
> definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, and that 
> seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so well if 
> it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
>
> \define AddTopic(topic)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
 clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
 msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to 
 be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
 remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about 
 this problem would be appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> <$select field="curr-topic">
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>   link
>>> 
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter uses 
>>> "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all special 
>>> URI characters, not just space.
>>> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
>>> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
>>> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
>>> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
>>> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
>>> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used to 
>>> show a different selected topic.
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e 
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Presenting: list-table-draggable - drag'n drop rows of data

[History Buff]

I like this. However, in the examples, I tried to arrange one through four 
top to bottom and could never get there. I may have not been doing 
something right, but the behavior didn't seem consistent from one drop to 
the next.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:46:20 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:

> Mat,
>  Nice idea! Clever solution!
>
> One minor comment: (ignore)
> In the demo page of plugin I tried reorder rows in example two and then I 
> saw other examples updated! I know the reason!
> But I suggest what do you think if a stateTiddler or variable is used here 
> so it keeps tables independent!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 5:44 PM Mat  wrote:
>
>> *"Don't be a square. Be a table."* 
>> - Aristotle
>>
>> The *TWaddleur* proudly presents
>> list-table-draggable 
>> ~ structured data in draggable rows ~
>>
>> Where the core macros *list-links-draggable* and *list-tagged-draggable* 
>> merely 
>> shows each list item as the *title*, the rendered list, 
>> *list-table-draggable* lets you show each list item as a *row 
>> with complex data*.
>>
>> The data is presented in a *table* e.g styled like tab-separated values 
>> :
>>
>> [image: tsv.png]
>>
>> ...and, as noted, you might want to drag'n drop to rearrange them.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> P.S I think this functionality should be possible by default in TW. Do 
>> you agree?
>>
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[tw5] Re: Wikitext img failing under node.js (5.1.23)

[Pumin Wuvanich]

hello Adithya,

May you please elaborate how to change uploadURL variable?  I need to do 
the same, and couldn't find it.

Best Regards,
Pumin

On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 4:32:35 AM UTC+7 bmad...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Saq, 
>
> This plugin is very nice. Thanks for the contribution!
>
> It runs beautifully - I had to make a small change in the JS to make it 
> work on my TiddlyServer installation though!
>
> I changed "var uploadURL = '/api/upload';" to "var uploadURL = 
> 'api/upload';" Because the initial / was making it call the api on the home 
> directory instead of the subdirectory. Once I did that it worked perfectly!
>
> Thanks again,
> Adithya
>

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[tw5] Re: Datatable Integration in TW5

[joost van den Dool]

Thank you for your feedback. The alternatives look nice but i miss 
grouping. So tioday I wrote my own javascript version without jQuery. I 
hope to integrate it in TiddlyWiki on Monday. For a demo 
see: https://jsfiddle.net/Joost75/0tad8hgu/#&togetherjs=OzCsdP3kCO

Kind regards, 

Joost

Op zaterdag 24 april 2021 om 19:18:41 UTC+2 schreef Mark S.:

> Like pMario says, its always better if you can get a native solution. Your 
> JS script isn't going to know about tiddlers, fields, filters, etc.
>
> "Datatables" looks a lot like Dynamic Tables (
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables). 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:52:29 AM UTC-7 PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi Joost, 
>> And welcome!
>>
>> If you have a look here https://links.tiddlywiki.com/topics/tables/ you 
>> may find something useful, that already works for TW?
>>
>> Including jQuery plugins isn't the best way to go with TW, because the 
>> step on each others toes. 
>>
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

Oh no no no, be much less circumspect, for the sheer fun/joy of it.

Pff, it is like who does not call snot-rags kleenex instead of tissue?  In 
my corner of the world, anyway.

In your context, silly putty is such a poetic way to describe, concise yet 
conjures up a plethora of happy qualities about Silly Putty that fit 
TiddlyWiki oh-so-well.

So wax poetic, my friend.  Wax poetic.

And do enjoy the fresh air.  Loads of wisdom in taking little breaks from 
paralysis by analysis and from analysis by paralysis.

I am going to get my own dose of vitamin D toute sweet.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:54:34 PM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:

> Guess i should be more circumspect in my use of such parochial cultural 
> refs (not to mention a registered trademark 
>  -sorry, Crayola!) but again: 
> the feeling of working with TiddlyWiki is a lot like Silly Putty™, in that 
> you can stretch it and shape it into just about anything you can imagine.  
> Problem is: how does one ever manage to establish boundaries in such a 
> medium?  Am practically paralysed by the possibilities, ATM.  Gotta unplug 
> and get some fresh air!  /w
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:22:22 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just so you know, you totally had me at silly-putty.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:20:27 PM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> This is so freakin' awesome. Next to that moment in 1993 when i booted 
>>> up Netscape Navigator v0.9 beta for my first-ever experience of surfing the 
>>> WWW, this is like the most horizon-expanding experience i can recall having 
>>> at the keyboard. Transclusion within a single wiki is cool enough, though 
>>> Wikpedia's had that going for quite some time, but being able to transclude 
>>> content from any static site on the web, and plug that in anywhere you want 
>>> on your own silly-putty site so easily as this... This Changes Everything!  
>>>  /walt
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:00:26 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really 
 nice in a narrow sidebar:

 \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
 >>> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
 \end

 \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
 >>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
  
 }}}>$topic$
 \end

 <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
 
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 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:

> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; 
> after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that 
> functionality 
> seems to have been compromised.
> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and 
> does it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>
> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's 
> macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, 
> and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so 
> well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
>
> \define AddTopic(topic)  [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
> }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
>  width="100%">
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
 clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level 
 error 
 msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems 
 to be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way 
 to 
 remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
 about 
 this problem would be appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >> [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
>>> }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> <$select field="curr-topic">
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>   link
>>> 
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
>>> uses "encodeuri[

Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[CJ Veniot]

Well, I've been programming ever since receiving a Commodore Vic-20 almost
40 years ago at the age of 13, and I am at my best (I think; definitely
having the most fun) dealing with complex and highly intertwingled
information/problems and architecting solutions with the tools at hand.

So the answer to "how do you come up with such a thing" would be, in short:
I bring 40 years of experience/skill/practices to the thing.

The long answer should probably involve a bunch of short and digestible
videos on specific little things that subconsciously (i.e. without
necessarily spelling it out) demonstrate things that are instinctive to me
which might lead to questions requiring other topical video demonstrations.

How about a quick and dirty demo of macro basics ?



On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 2:43 PM Ray Vermey  wrote:

> @charlie Veniot:
>
> Well the screenshot shows an oversight of TW documentation i guess?
> My 1st question would be: How do you make such a thing?
> And more importantly: where do i learn the basic commands for this?
> Yes i can look into the code of the wiki but that code only says about say
> 50% something to me.
> So i miss the information on how to program
>
> Thanks for your friendly answer.
>
> Ray
>
> Op za 24 apr. 2021 om 17:32 schreef Charlie Veniot :
>
>> Hey, my "gigle" stuff would be impossible to share.  It might leave most
>> folk quite scared.
>>
>> The Google stuff:  Add a Google calendar to your website
>> 
>>
>>- in my example, I excluded all of my calendars (private, shared, and
>>public)
>>- you can pick and choose which of your calendars to include
>>   - if your website is public, nobody but you will see your private
>>   stuff, and shared stuff will only be visible to you and the specific 
>> gmail
>>   users you've selected; the rest of the world will only see the public 
>> stuff
>>
>> As for the TiddlyWiki code, that I learned by digging into
>> TiddlyWiki.com, and hacking away at things to understand them.
>>
>> Maybe we can peck away at the code chunk by chunk to explain what is
>> going on.
>>
>> What is the first thing you would like to know about ?
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-3 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie where can i find the gigle stuff you just showed?
>>> Looks awesome.
>>>
>>> Are there tutorials somewhere to learn to understand the code uses?
>>> I copy and paste the code in a tiddler, i see the result, but understand
>>> half of the code used.
>>> Do you know where i can learn to understand this stuff?
>>>
>>> This stuff i mean:
>>>
>>> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>>> >> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>   link
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> Op za 24 apr. 2021 om 16:05 schreef Charlie Veniot :
>>>
 Screenshot for the $hit$ and the giggle$:

 [image: Screenshot 2021-04-24 11.02.24 AM - Display 1.png]

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:00:26 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really
> nice in a narrow sidebar:
>
> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>  https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
> \end
>
> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
> }}}>$topic$
> \end
>
> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
>   link
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar;
>> after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that 
>> functionality
>> seems to have been compromised.
>> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and
>> does it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>>
>> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's
>> macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code,
>> and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so
>> well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>
>> \define AddTopic(topic) > [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]]
>> }}}>$topic$
>>
>> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>   link
>> > width="100%">
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>> On Sa

[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[ludwa6]

Guess i should be more circumspect in my use of such parochial cultural 
refs (not to mention a registered trademark 
 -sorry, Crayola!) but again: 
the feeling of working with TiddlyWiki is a lot like Silly Putty™, in that 
you can stretch it and shape it into just about anything you can imagine.  
Problem is: how does one ever manage to establish boundaries in such a 
medium?  Am practically paralysed by the possibilities, ATM.  Gotta unplug 
and get some fresh air!  /w

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:22:22 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just so you know, you totally had me at silly-putty.
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:20:27 PM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> This is so freakin' awesome. Next to that moment in 1993 when i booted up 
>> Netscape Navigator v0.9 beta for my first-ever experience of surfing the 
>> WWW, this is like the most horizon-expanding experience i can recall having 
>> at the keyboard. Transclusion within a single wiki is cool enough, though 
>> Wikpedia's had that going for quite some time, but being able to transclude 
>> content from any static site on the web, and plug that in anywhere you want 
>> on your own silly-putty site so easily as this... This Changes Everything!  
>>  /walt
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:00:26 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really 
>>> nice in a narrow sidebar:
>>>
>>> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>>> >> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>>> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
>>>  
>>> }}}>$topic$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>   link
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; 
 after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality 
 seems to have been compromised.
 @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and 
 does it display & function correctly in your sidebar?

 Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's 
 macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, 
 and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so 
 well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w

 8<--(snip)->8

 \define AddTopic(topic) >>> [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
 }}}>$topic$

 <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
 
 <>
 <>
 <>
   link
 >>> width="100%">

 8<--(snip)->8
 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level 
>>> error 
>>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems 
>>> to be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way 
>>> to 
>>> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
>>> about 
>>> this problem would be appreciated!
>>
>>
>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>> \define AddTopic(topic) > [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
>> }}}>$topic$
>>
>> <$select field="curr-topic">
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>   link
>> 
>>
>> Notes:
>> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
>> uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all 
>> special URI characters, not just space.
>> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the 
>> *current 
>> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
>> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
>> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
>> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
>> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used 
>> to show a different selected topic.
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I change the color of external links?

[muynars...@gmail.com]

Thanks, that was exactly what I needed!

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-3 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Try out the tiddlers in the attached zip file.  I hope that helps you out.
>
> Cheers !
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:13:20 PM UTC-3 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I know that for changing the color of internal tiddlers I have to do the 
>> following:
>>
>>
>>1. Create a new tiddler with any name
>>2. Add the tag $:/tags/Stylesheet to it
>>3. Create the css class .green a { color:green }; inside this tiddler
>>4. Call the class on the link with the syntax @@.green [[link]] @@
>>
>> Doing this procedure, the word link will be an internal Tiddlywiki link 
>> and its color will be green regardless of the color defined on my themes. 
>> However ,if I use this same syntax for external links... Let's say 
>> "@@.green [[link|https://www.google.com]] @@". It doesn't work... 
>>
>> I've tried the following:
>>
>> * @@.green [[link|https://www.google.com]] @@
>> * @@.green [[link]] @@
>>
>> And my result was:
>>
>>
>> Am I missing some detail here? How can I change the color of external 
>> links on Tiddlywiki?
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Should tags be singular or plural?

[Charlie Veniot]

Why two tiddlers?  A tag doesn't necessarily need to have a matching 
tiddler.

That said, I sometimes do create the two tiddlers.   For example, a tiddler 
for the "battleship" tag, and a "Battleships" tiddler to list the tiddlers 
tagged "battleship".

My reason to create a "battleship" tiddler: as documentation for the 
particular tag, including a lenghty description about the tag (purpose 
etc.), maybe some links to external information related to battleship, and 
a transclusion of the "Battleships" tiddler that lists all of the tiddlers 
tagged "battleship".

Why a distinct "Battleships" tiddler?  For each and every spot I want to 
show the list of Battleships (sidebar, transcluded in whatever other 
tiddlers).  Just the list and not all of the documentation that exists in 
"battleship".  More likely, I'd use something like "Battleships List" 
instead of "Battleships".

Something like that.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:11:44 PM UTC-3 si wrote:

> On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 15:55:04 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:51:48 AM UTC-3 note2... wrote:
>>
>>> Si
>>>
>>> I pondered   over this some time and apply the following practice:
>>>
>>> A tag is singular like "Task"
>>> The plural "Tasks" is a tiddler that lists all stages tiddlers or offers 
>>> editing functions of some sort
>>>
>>> Pit.W
>>>

 Ditto for this kid.
>>
>> What kind of ship is this?  It is a battleship.  "battleship" is my tag.  
>>  "Battleships" is my tiddler listing all tiddlers tagged "battleship". 
>>
>> Yeah, I've got the game on my mind...
>>
>
> I used to do this, but I felt it was kind of redundant. It seemed a bit 
> much to be creating two new tiddlers every time I wanted to introduce a new 
> category.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Ray Vermey]

@charlie Veniot:

Well the screenshot shows an oversight of TW documentation i guess?
My 1st question would be: How do you make such a thing?
And more importantly: where do i learn the basic commands for this?
Yes i can look into the code of the wiki but that code only says about say
50% something to me.
So i miss the information on how to program

Thanks for your friendly answer.

Ray

Op za 24 apr. 2021 om 17:32 schreef Charlie Veniot :

> Hey, my "gigle" stuff would be impossible to share.  It might leave most
> folk quite scared.
>
> The Google stuff:  Add a Google calendar to your website
> 
>
>- in my example, I excluded all of my calendars (private, shared, and
>public)
>- you can pick and choose which of your calendars to include
>   - if your website is public, nobody but you will see your private
>   stuff, and shared stuff will only be visible to you and the specific 
> gmail
>   users you've selected; the rest of the world will only see the public 
> stuff
>
> As for the TiddlyWiki code, that I learned by digging into TiddlyWiki.com,
> and hacking away at things to understand them.
>
> Maybe we can peck away at the code chunk by chunk to explain what is going
> on.
>
> What is the first thing you would like to know about ?
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-3 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Charlie where can i find the gigle stuff you just showed?
>> Looks awesome.
>>
>> Are there tutorials somewhere to learn to understand the code uses?
>> I copy and paste the code in a tiddler, i see the result, but understand
>> half of the code used.
>> Do you know where i can learn to understand this stuff?
>>
>> This stuff i mean:
>>
>> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>> > https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
>> \end
>>
>> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>
>> \end
>>
>> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>>   link
>> 
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> Op za 24 apr. 2021 om 16:05 schreef Charlie Veniot :
>>
>>> Screenshot for the $hit$ and the giggle$:
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-04-24 11.02.24 AM - Display 1.png]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:00:26 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
 My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really
 nice in a narrow sidebar:

 \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
 >>> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
 \end

 \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
 >>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
 }}}>$topic$
 \end

 <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
 
 <>
 <>
 <>
 
 
 <>
 <>
 <>
 
   link
 


 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:

> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar;
> after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality
> seems to have been compromised.
> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and
> does it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>
> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's
> macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code,
> and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so
> well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
>
> \define AddTopic(topic)  [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]]
> }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
>  width="100%">
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> @Eric: Thanbk you.
>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like
>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix
 clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level 
 error
 msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems
 to be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way 
 to
 remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
 about
 this problem would be appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >

[tw5] Re: How can I change the color of external links?

[Charlie Veniot]

G'day,

Try out the tiddlers in the attached zip file.  I hope that helps you out.

Cheers !

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:13:20 PM UTC-3 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know that for changing the color of internal tiddlers I have to do the 
> following:
>
>
>1. Create a new tiddler with any name
>2. Add the tag $:/tags/Stylesheet to it
>3. Create the css class .green a { color:green }; inside this tiddler
>4. Call the class on the link with the syntax @@.green [[link]] @@
>
> Doing this procedure, the word link will be an internal Tiddlywiki link 
> and its color will be green regardless of the color defined on my themes. 
> However ,if I use this same syntax for external links... Let's say 
> "@@.green [[link|https://www.google.com]] @@". It doesn't work... 
>
> I've tried the following:
>
> * @@.green [[link|https://www.google.com]] @@
> * @@.green [[link]] @@
>
> And my result was:
>
>
> Am I missing some detail here? How can I change the color of external 
> links on Tiddlywiki?
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Change the color of the tag-pill macro?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Is it fine to use your own tag-pill macro

\define my-tag-pill(tag) $tag$

span.tc-tag-label-new {
display: inline-block;
padding: 0.16em 0.7em;
font-size: 0.9em;
font-weight: 400;
line-height: 1.2em;
color: #ff;
white-space: nowrap;
vertical-align: baseline;
background-color: brown;
border-radius: 1em;
}



Example
<< my-tag-pill  tag:"Macros">>


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 9:37 PM si  wrote:

> I'm building something in my wiki that makes use of the tag-pill macro
> , but I need to change the
> color to distinguish it from regular tags. Is there any way to do this?
>
> I feel like it might be possible with the "element-attributes" parameter
> but I don't actually understand what it is for.
>
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[tw5] Re: A tour through my Zettelkasten

[ludwa6]

Building my instance off this template, i'm now trying to develop a few 
topical Bibliographies, each with a list of Sources, but it's not working 
the way you show in the video, @Soren.

When i click the "Sources" tool, it opens up a "New Source" tiddler that 
contains only the following set of fields by default; the "Bibliography" 
field that appears at top of the list in your video at min.24'54" does not 
show up in mine -neither by default nor in the dropdown list of Field Names 
with which i might customise the tiddler (tho i suppose this should be done 
at the level of a View Template, right)?

Also: the "Bibliography" tab in SideBar appears rather enigmatic for the 
new user of this skeleton Zettelkasten, who has no Bibliography as of yet, 
no bibtex entries to "Process," and no clue as to how to make one.  I tried 
using the Search box in that widget, using pulldown param "Author" to 
search for the Source i created using the "New Source" tool, but it does 
not appear... And neither does it appear in the table on SourceList tiddler 
tho -being created via New Source tool- it is of course properly tagged.

Of course: i could implement the "Reading List" feature that i built in 
another instance, following your earlier video tutorial 
 -which works great- 
but i'm trying to use this Zettelkasten instance as-is, without introducing 
any new code.  To that end: am i missing something, or is something missing 
from the this version, i wonder?

/walt

On Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 6:06:29 PM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> The public version lacks some functionality that is important for editing 
> and has a bunch of settings changed that are a bit of a pain to change 
> back, so it'll be much better if I do a second build off of the "real" 
> private version. I've attached a first 15-minute attempt at this.
>
> Things that could use improvement here:
>
>- There are no instructions at all, so you'll have to figure out how 
>to get started on your own. Some of the conventions tiddlers are missing 
>and would be nice to have.
>- I included all the red, yellow, and black tag tiddlers, but since 
>there is no content in this version, most of them are not tagging 
> anything, 
>so they don't show up in the tags list. Also, some of the tag tiddlers 
> have 
>content that probably won't be very useful for you in them.
>- There's a button for the ReadingInbox on the toolbar, but said inbox 
>is not included in the edition at present. You can hide or delete that 
>button tiddler.
>
> Please let me know what else does not work right – I'd love to add a build 
> of this edition to my standard publish process in the future.
> On Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 6:52:30 AM UTC-5 stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1 to Walt's post.  Thanks, Soren, for the great contribution to the 
>> community. This really helped me understand how to implement a Zettelkasten 
>> in TW.  I, too, have been wondering how to filter out your content and keep 
>> the skeleton, if that is at all possible. Thanks again.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> On Saturday, April 17, 2021 at 7:17:38 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Wow.  For all the buzz around the Digital Gardening/ Mind-Mapping space, 
>>> this is so far and away beyond anything i have seen... An amazing gift to 
>>> the commons, Soren; i just gotta give your system a try.
>>>
>>> To that end, i have just one question: what would be the easiest way to 
>>> filter out & delete all your content from the downloaded .html file, 
>>> without losing any of the many useful functions that you have outlined & 
>>> demoed so well?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:15:49 AM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>
 For those who have been interested in my public Zettelkasten wiki 
  in the past (or might be 
 interested in it now), I've just put up an extensive discussion of 
 Zettelkasten and how I've implemented it in my TiddlyWiki on my YouTube 
 channel:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjpjE5pMZMI

 Here are the segments if you're curious:

 *About Zettelkasten:*
 0:00 Welcome and introduction
 1:00 Public and private versions of my Zettelkasten
 2:08 What is a Zettelkasten?
 4:16 What idea tiddlers look like and how we navigate through them
 6:28 Implementation evolves with the content

 *Organizing my Zettelkasten and relating ideas:*
 7:06 Why I use CamelCase names
 8:12 Expressing relationships by linking
 9:40 Expressing memberships by tagging
 10:07 Tags serve in many roles – topics/indexes, publicity level, 
 lists, types, pseudo-types, and maintenance
 15:42 Index tiddlers provide overviews of a topic area
 17:33 Transclusion can combine with the ‘description’ field to create 
 overviews
 18:42 Why I don’t use tags for all overviews
 19:28 Str

[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

Just so you know, you totally had me at silly-putty.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:20:27 PM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:

> This is so freakin' awesome. Next to that moment in 1993 when i booted up 
> Netscape Navigator v0.9 beta for my first-ever experience of surfing the 
> WWW, this is like the most horizon-expanding experience i can recall having 
> at the keyboard. Transclusion within a single wiki is cool enough, though 
> Wikpedia's had that going for quite some time, but being able to transclude 
> content from any static site on the web, and plug that in anywhere you want 
> on your own silly-putty site so easily as this... This Changes Everything!  
>  /walt
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:00:26 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really 
>> nice in a narrow sidebar:
>>
>> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>> > https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
>> \end
>>
>> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
>>  
>> }}}>$topic$
>> \end
>>
>> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>>   link
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; 
>>> after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality 
>>> seems to have been compromised.
>>> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does 
>>> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>>>
>>> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's 
>>> macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, 
>>> and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so 
>>> well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>>>
>>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>>
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>   link
>>> >> width="100%">
>>>
>>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 @Eric: Thanbk you.  
 This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
 TiddlyWikiLinks.

 Cheers,
 Hans

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems 
>> to be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
>> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
>> about 
>> this problem would be appreciated!
>
>
> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
> \define AddTopic(topic)  [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
> }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select field="curr-topic">
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> Notes:
> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
> uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all 
> special URI characters, not just space.
> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used 
> to show a different selected topic.
>
> enjoy,
> -e 
>


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[tw5] Re: Datatable Integration in TW5

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Like pMario says, its always better if you can get a native solution. Your 
JS script isn't going to know about tiddlers, fields, filters, etc.

"Datatables" looks a lot like Dynamic Tables 
(https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables). 



On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:52:29 AM UTC-7 PMario wrote:

> Hi Joost, 
> And welcome!
>
> If you have a look here https://links.tiddlywiki.com/topics/tables/ you 
> may find something useful, that already works for TW?
>
> Including jQuery plugins isn't the best way to go with TW, because the 
> step on each others toes. 
>
> -mario
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Should tags be singular or plural?

[si]

On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 15:55:04 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:51:48 AM UTC-3 note2... wrote:
>
>> Si
>>
>> I pondered   over this some time and apply the following practice:
>>
>> A tag is singular like "Task"
>> The plural "Tasks" is a tiddler that lists all stages tiddlers or offers 
>> editing functions of some sort
>>
>> Pit.W
>>
>>>
>>> Ditto for this kid.
>
> What kind of ship is this?  It is a battleship.  "battleship" is my tag.  
>  "Battleships" is my tiddler listing all tiddlers tagged "battleship". 
>
> Yeah, I've got the game on my mind...
>

I used to do this, but I felt it was kind of redundant. It seemed a bit 
much to be creating two new tiddlers every time I wanted to introduce a new 
category.

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Re: [tw5] Should tags be singular or plural?

[si]

I used to do this, but I felt it was kind of redundant. I was having to 
create two new tiddlers every time I introduced a new category.

On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 15:55:04 UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:51:48 AM UTC-3 note2... wrote:
>
>> Si
>>
>> I pondered   over this some time and apply the following practice:
>>
>> A tag is singular like "Task"
>> The plural "Tasks" is a tiddler that lists all stages tiddlers or offers 
>> editing functions of some sort
>>
>> Pit.W
>>
>>>
>>> Ditto for this kid.
>
> What kind of ship is this?  It is a battleship.  "battleship" is my tag.  
>  "Battleships" is my tiddler listing all tiddlers tagged "battleship". 
>
> Yeah, I've got the game on my mind...
>

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[tw5] Change the color of the tag-pill macro?

[si]

I'm building something in my wiki that makes use of the tag-pill macro 
, but I need to change the color 
to distinguish it from regular tags. Is there any way to do this?

I feel like it might be possible with the "element-attributes" parameter 
but I don't actually understand what it is for.

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[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[Saq Imtiaz]

Creating a new fresh wiki and testing it for the same problem is a very 
good idea.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:58:05 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> I see... I'm not completely sure if it happens on a fresh install to be 
> honest, I'll check it. The instance of the Tiddlywiki I'm using is being 
> created for some years already and I've installed and uninstalled many 
> stuff on it. I may have crashed something accidentally...
>
> Both $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/filesystem and $:/core show me the version 
> 5.1.23 as well.
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:36:14 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Apologies, the second should have been  $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/filesystem
>> You may as well confirm the version number for $:/core as well.
>>
>> Unless someone else chimes in the next day or so with an idea as to what 
>> the issue is, I suggest opening a ticket on Github.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:16:58 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean two plugins? The addresses you gave me are the same.  But 
>>> the  $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb version is 5.1.23 too:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:08:33 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's really odd. I am not sure why the $:/StoryList is being sent 
 from the server to your clients.

 Can you check the version numbers of the following plugins:
 $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
 $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> The `$:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer` has just the word `no` 
> inside it.
>
> And inside the `$:/config/SyncFilter` there is:
>
> `[is[tiddler]] -[[$:/core]] -[[$:/library/sjcl.js]] 
> -[prefix[$:/boot/]] -[prefix[$:/HistoryList]] 
> -[status[pending]plugin-type[import]] -[[$:/isEncrypted]] 
> -[prefix[$:/status/]] -[prefix[$:/state/]] -[prefix[$:/temp/]]`
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Can you post the contents of the following (shadow) tiddlers:
>> $:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer
>> $:/config/SyncFilter
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:18:54 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 
 5.1.22 but should be resolved in 5.1.23


 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 
 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the 
> kind of thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, 
> right? 
>
> It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its 
> source code. 
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.
>>
>> With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river 
>> (list of open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is 
>> updated. and 
>> All views of the same wiki also update.
>>
>> I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is 
>> not saved.
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality 
>>> that I use a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external 
>>> application 
>>> that's not related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening 
>>> links with 
>>> the follow syntax:
>>>
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
>>>
>>> Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki 
>>> once I have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is 
>>> that if I 
>>> open a different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes 
>>> all my 
>>> tabs on the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an 
>>> example, 
>>> let's say that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and 
>>> then I 
>>> open a different set of tiddlers on the following link:
>>>
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
>>> [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]
>>>
>>> In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the 
>>> browser containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] 
>>> [[tiddler2]] [[tiddle

[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[muynars...@gmail.com]

I see... I'm not completely sure if it happens on a fresh install to be 
honest, I'll check it. The instance of the Tiddlywiki I'm using is being 
created for some years already and I've installed and uninstalled many 
stuff on it. I may have crashed something accidentally...

Both $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/filesystem and $:/core show me the version 
5.1.23 as well.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:36:14 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Apologies, the second should have been  $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/filesystem
> You may as well confirm the version number for $:/core as well.
>
> Unless someone else chimes in the next day or so with an idea as to what 
> the issue is, I suggest opening a ticket on Github.
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:16:58 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Do you mean two plugins? The addresses you gave me are the same.  But 
>> the  $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb version is 5.1.23 too:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:08:33 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> That's really odd. I am not sure why the $:/StoryList is being sent from 
>>> the server to your clients.
>>>
>>> Can you check the version numbers of the following plugins:
>>> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
>>> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The `$:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer` has just the word `no` 
 inside it.

 And inside the `$:/config/SyncFilter` there is:

 `[is[tiddler]] -[[$:/core]] -[[$:/library/sjcl.js]] -[prefix[$:/boot/]] 
 -[prefix[$:/HistoryList]] -[status[pending]plugin-type[import]] 
 -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/status/]] -[prefix[$:/state/]] 
 -[prefix[$:/temp/]]`




 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Can you post the contents of the following (shadow) tiddlers:
> $:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer
> $:/config/SyncFilter
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:18:54 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 
>>> 5.1.22 but should be resolved in 5.1.23
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the 
 kind of thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, 
 right? 

 It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its 
 source code. 

 On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:

> This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.
>
> With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river 
> (list of open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is 
> updated. and 
> All views of the same wiki also update.
>
> I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is 
> not saved.
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that 
>> I use a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application 
>> that's 
>> not related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with 
>> the 
>> follow syntax:
>>
>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
>>
>> Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki 
>> once I have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is 
>> that if I 
>> open a different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes 
>> all my 
>> tabs on the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an 
>> example, 
>> let's say that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and 
>> then I 
>> open a different set of tiddlers on the following link:
>>
>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
>> [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]
>>
>> In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the 
>> browser containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] 
>> [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]] will change to 
>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
>> [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs 
>> will 
>> have the same content. Is it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from 
>> updating its 
>> pages like

[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[Saq Imtiaz]

Apologies, the second should have been  $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/filesystem
You may as well confirm the version number for $:/core as well.

Unless someone else chimes in the next day or so with an idea as to what 
the issue is, I suggest opening a ticket on Github.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:16:58 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> Do you mean two plugins? The addresses you gave me are the same.  But the  
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb version is 5.1.23 too:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:08:33 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That's really odd. I am not sure why the $:/StoryList is being sent from 
>> the server to your clients.
>>
>> Can you check the version numbers of the following plugins:
>> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
>> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The `$:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer` has just the word `no` 
>>> inside it.
>>>
>>> And inside the `$:/config/SyncFilter` there is:
>>>
>>> `[is[tiddler]] -[[$:/core]] -[[$:/library/sjcl.js]] -[prefix[$:/boot/]] 
>>> -[prefix[$:/HistoryList]] -[status[pending]plugin-type[import]] 
>>> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/status/]] -[prefix[$:/state/]] 
>>> -[prefix[$:/temp/]]`
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can you post the contents of the following (shadow) tiddlers:
 $:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer
 $:/config/SyncFilter

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:18:54 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 
>> 5.1.22 but should be resolved in 5.1.23
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the 
>>> kind of thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, right? 
>>>
>>> It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its 
>>> source code. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.

 With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river 
 (list of open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is 
 updated. and 
 All views of the same wiki also update.

 I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is 
 not saved.
 Regards
 Tones

 On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that 
> I use a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application 
> that's 
> not related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with 
> the 
> follow syntax:
>
> http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
>
> Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki once 
> I have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is that if I 
> open 
> a different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes all my 
> tabs 
> on the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an example, 
> let's 
> say that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and then I 
> open a 
> different set of tiddlers on the following link:
>
> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
> [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]
>
> In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the 
> browser containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] 
> [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]] will change to 
> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
> [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs 
> will 
> have the same content. Is it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from 
> updating its 
> pages like that? Just so if I open different sets of tiddlers on 
> different 
> pages on the browser they will remain the same no matter how much 
> time 
> passes by?
>


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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[ludwa6]

This is so freakin' awesome. Next to that moment in 1993 when i booted up 
Netscape Navigator v0.9 beta for my first-ever experience of surfing the 
WWW, this is like the most horizon-expanding experience i can recall having 
at the keyboard. Transclusion within a single wiki is cool enough, though 
Wikpedia's had that going for quite some time, but being able to transclude 
content from any static site on the web, and plug that in anywhere you want 
on your own silly-putty site so easily as this... This Changes Everything!  
 /walt

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:00:26 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really 
> nice in a narrow sidebar:
>
> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>  https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
> \end
>
> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
>  
> }}}>$topic$
> \end
>
> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
>   link
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; after 
>> the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality seems 
>> to have been compromised.
>> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does 
>> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>>
>> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's macro 
>> definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, and that 
>> seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so well if 
>> it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>
>> \define AddTopic(topic) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>
>> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>   link
>> 
>>
>> 8<--(snip)->8
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
>>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
>>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:

> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to 
> be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
> about 
> this problem would be appreciated!


 Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
 \define AddTopic(topic) >>> [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
 }}}>$topic$

 <$select field="curr-topic">
 <>
 <>
 <>
   link
 

 Notes:
 * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
 uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all 
 special URI characters, not just space.
 * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
 tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
 corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
 {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
 transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
 {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used to 
 show a different selected topic.

 enjoy,
 -e 

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[muynars...@gmail.com]

Do you mean two plugins? The addresses you gave me are the same.  But the  
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb version is 5.1.23 too:



On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:08:33 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's really odd. I am not sure why the $:/StoryList is being sent from 
> the server to your clients.
>
> Can you check the version numbers of the following plugins:
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The `$:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer` has just the word `no` 
>> inside it.
>>
>> And inside the `$:/config/SyncFilter` there is:
>>
>> `[is[tiddler]] -[[$:/core]] -[[$:/library/sjcl.js]] -[prefix[$:/boot/]] 
>> -[prefix[$:/HistoryList]] -[status[pending]plugin-type[import]] 
>> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/status/]] -[prefix[$:/state/]] 
>> -[prefix[$:/temp/]]`
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you post the contents of the following (shadow) tiddlers:
>>> $:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer
>>> $:/config/SyncFilter
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:18:54 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 
> 5.1.22 but should be resolved in 5.1.23
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the kind 
>> of thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, right? 
>>
>> It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its 
>> source code. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.
>>>
>>> With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river (list 
>>> of open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is updated. and 
>>> All 
>>> views of the same wiki also update.
>>>
>>> I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is not 
>>> saved.
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that I 
 use a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application 
 that's 
 not related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with the 
 follow syntax:

 http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]

 Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki once 
 I have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is that if I 
 open 
 a different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes all my 
 tabs 
 on the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an example, 
 let's 
 say that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and then I 
 open a 
 different set of tiddlers on the following link:

 http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
 [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]

 In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the 
 browser containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] 
 [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]] will change to 
 http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
 [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs 
 will 
 have the same content. Is it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from updating 
 its 
 pages like that? Just so if I open different sets of tiddlers on 
 different 
 pages on the browser they will remain the same no matter how much time 
 passes by?

>>>

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[tw5] How can I change the color of external links?

[muynars...@gmail.com]

I know that for changing the color of internal tiddlers I have to do the 
following:


   1. Create a new tiddler with any name
   2. Add the tag $:/tags/Stylesheet to it
   3. Create the css class .green a { color:green }; inside this tiddler
   4. Call the class on the link with the syntax @@.green [[link]] @@

Doing this procedure, the word link will be an internal Tiddlywiki link and 
its color will be green regardless of the color defined on my themes. 
However ,if I use this same syntax for external links... Let's say 
"@@.green [[link|https://www.google.com]] @@". It doesn't work... 

I've tried the following:

* @@.green [[link|https://www.google.com]] @@
* @@.green [[link]] @@

And my result was:


Am I missing some detail here? How can I change the color of external links 
on Tiddlywiki?

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[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[Saq Imtiaz]

That's really odd. I am not sure why the $:/StoryList is being sent from 
the server to your clients.

Can you check the version numbers of the following plugins:
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> The `$:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer` has just the word `no` inside 
> it.
>
> And inside the `$:/config/SyncFilter` there is:
>
> `[is[tiddler]] -[[$:/core]] -[[$:/library/sjcl.js]] -[prefix[$:/boot/]] 
> -[prefix[$:/HistoryList]] -[status[pending]plugin-type[import]] 
> -[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/status/]] -[prefix[$:/state/]] 
> -[prefix[$:/temp/]]`
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can you post the contents of the following (shadow) tiddlers:
>> $:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer
>> $:/config/SyncFilter
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:18:54 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 
 5.1.22 but should be resolved in 5.1.23


 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the kind 
> of thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, right? 
>
> It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its 
> source code. 
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.
>>
>> With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river (list 
>> of open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is updated. and 
>> All 
>> views of the same wiki also update.
>>
>> I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is not 
>> saved.
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that I 
>>> use a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application 
>>> that's 
>>> not related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with the 
>>> follow syntax:
>>>
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
>>>
>>> Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki once I 
>>> have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is that if I 
>>> open a 
>>> different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes all my tabs 
>>> on 
>>> the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an example, let's 
>>> say 
>>> that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and then I open a 
>>> different set of tiddlers on the following link:
>>>
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
>>> [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]
>>>
>>> In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the 
>>> browser containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] 
>>> [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]] will change to 
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] 
>>> [[differentTiddler2]] [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs will 
>>> have the same content. Is it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from updating 
>>> its 
>>> pages like that? Just so if I open different sets of tiddlers on 
>>> different 
>>> pages on the browser they will remain the same no matter how much time 
>>> passes by?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: New magic of $list widget in Tiddlywiki 5.1.24: The index attribute

[Charlie Veniot]

I'm not all that crazy about the choice of "index" as the keyword to handle 
that.

To me, index means index to an item in a data tiddler.

Now index means *that* or *this*.  When somebody is referring to index, in 
what context?  As in data tiddlers, or as in numerically identifiying 
<$list> items in a sequence?

Overloading the word index.  That annoys the daylights out of me.


On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:22:40 PM UTC-3 Mohammad wrote:

> You may now, the $list widget, is the most common widget you use in 
> Tiddlywiki! It is everywhere like a nice dog!
>
> The $list widget in 5.1.24 has got a new attribute index! in which the 
> numeric index of each listed tiddler is stored  It can produce very nice 
> results like below
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[About]sort[title]]" index="index">
> 
> <>: ''<$text text=<>/>'' (is first: <>, 
> is last: <>)
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Displays as:
>
> 0: Acknowledgements (is first: yes, is last: no)
> 1: Contributors (is first: no, is last: no)
> 2: History of TiddlyWiki (is first: no, is last: no)
> 3: License (is first: no, is last: no)
> 4: Releases (is first: no, is last: no)
> 5: RoadMap (is first: no, is last: yes)
>
> Ah this is lovely!
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[muynars...@gmail.com]

The `$:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer` has just the word `no` inside 
it.

And inside the `$:/config/SyncFilter` there is:

`[is[tiddler]] -[[$:/core]] -[[$:/library/sjcl.js]] -[prefix[$:/boot/]] 
-[prefix[$:/HistoryList]] -[status[pending]plugin-type[import]] 
-[[$:/isEncrypted]] -[prefix[$:/status/]] -[prefix[$:/state/]] 
-[prefix[$:/temp/]]`




On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can you post the contents of the following (shadow) tiddlers:
> $:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer
> $:/config/SyncFilter
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:18:54 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 
>>> 5.1.22 but should be resolved in 5.1.23
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the kind 
 of thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, right? 

 It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its 
 source code. 

 On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:

> This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.
>
> With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river (list 
> of open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is updated. and All 
> views of the same wiki also update.
>
> I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is not 
> saved.
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that I 
>> use a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application 
>> that's 
>> not related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with the 
>> follow syntax:
>>
>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
>>
>> Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki once I 
>> have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is that if I open 
>> a 
>> different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes all my tabs 
>> on 
>> the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an example, let's 
>> say 
>> that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and then I open a 
>> different set of tiddlers on the following link:
>>
>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
>> [[differentTiddler3]]
>>
>> In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the browser 
>> containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] 
>> [[tiddler3]] will change to 
>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
>> [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs will have the same content. 
>> Is 
>> it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from updating its pages like that? Just 
>> so 
>> if I open different sets of tiddlers on different pages on the browser 
>> they 
>> will remain the same no matter how much time passes by?
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: New magic of $list widget in Tiddlywiki 5.1.24: The index attribute

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you Saq!
I noted this in the TW-Scripts! That is quite correct!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:58 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> Important to be aware though that the refresh performance is of necessity
> rather slow when using this new attribute, so I would not suggest using it
> with larger numbers of tiddlers or complex templates where performance is a
> concern.
>
> For a small list like the one posted as an example in this thread, the
> performance different should be negligible.
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:22:40 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> You may now, the $list widget, is the most common widget you use in
>> Tiddlywiki! It is everywhere like a nice dog!
>>
>> The $list widget in 5.1.24 has got a new attribute index! in which the
>> numeric index of each listed tiddler is stored  It can produce very nice
>> results like below
>>
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[About]sort[title]]" index="index">
>> 
>> <>: ''<$text text=<>/>'' (is first: <>, 
>> is last: <>)
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Displays as:
>>
>> 0: Acknowledgements (is first: yes, is last: no)
>> 1: Contributors (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 2: History of TiddlyWiki (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 3: License (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 4: Releases (is first: no, is last: no)
>> 5: RoadMap (is first: no, is last: yes)
>>
>> Ah this is lovely!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

Hey, my "gigle" stuff would be impossible to share.  It might leave most 
folk quite scared.

The Google stuff:  Add a Google calendar to your website 


   - in my example, I excluded all of my calendars (private, shared, and 
   public)
   - you can pick and choose which of your calendars to include
  - if your website is public, nobody but you will see your private 
  stuff, and shared stuff will only be visible to you and the specific 
gmail 
  users you've selected; the rest of the world will only see the public 
stuff
   
As for the TiddlyWiki code, that I learned by digging into TiddlyWiki.com, 
and hacking away at things to understand them.

Maybe we can peck away at the code chunk by chunk to explain what is going 
on.

What is the first thing you would like to know about ?


On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-3 rayv...@gmail.com wrote:

> Charlie where can i find the gigle stuff you just showed?
> Looks awesome.
>
> Are there tutorials somewhere to learn to understand the code uses?
> I copy and paste the code in a tiddler, i see the result, but understand 
> half of the code used.
> Do you know where i can learn to understand this stuff?
>
> This stuff i mean:
>
> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>  https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
> \end
>
> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>
> \end
>
> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
>   link
> 
>
> Thanks
>
> Ray
>
> Op za 24 apr. 2021 om 16:05 schreef Charlie Veniot :
>
>> Screenshot for the $hit$ and the giggle$:
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-04-24 11.02.24 AM - Display 1.png]
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:00:26 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really 
>>> nice in a narrow sidebar:
>>>
>>> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>>> >> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>>> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
>>>  
>>> }}}>$topic$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>   link
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; 
 after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality 
 seems to have been compromised.
 @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and 
 does it display & function correctly in your sidebar?

 Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's 
 macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, 
 and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so 
 well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w

 8<--(snip)->8

 \define AddTopic(topic) >>> [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
 }}}>$topic$

 <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
 
 <>
 <>
 <>
   link
 >>> width="100%">

 8<--(snip)->8
 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level 
>>> error 
>>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems 
>>> to be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way 
>>> to 
>>> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
>>> about 
>>> this problem would be appreciated!
>>
>>
>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>> \define AddTopic(topic) > [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
>> }}}>$topic$
>>
>> <$select field="curr-topic">
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>   link
>> 
>>
>> Notes:
>> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
>> uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all 
>> special URI characters, not just space.
>> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the 
>> *current 
>> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
>> corresponding  

[tw5] Re: New magic of $list widget in Tiddlywiki 5.1.24: The index attribute

[Saq Imtiaz]

Important to be aware though that the refresh performance is of necessity 
rather slow when using this new attribute, so I would not suggest using it 
with larger numbers of tiddlers or complex templates where performance is a 
concern. 

For a small list like the one posted as an example in this thread, the 
performance different should be negligible.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:22:40 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

> You may now, the $list widget, is the most common widget you use in 
> Tiddlywiki! It is everywhere like a nice dog!
>
> The $list widget in 5.1.24 has got a new attribute index! in which the 
> numeric index of each listed tiddler is stored  It can produce very nice 
> results like below
>
>
> <$list filter="[tag[About]sort[title]]" index="index">
> 
> <>: ''<$text text=<>/>'' (is first: <>, 
> is last: <>)
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Displays as:
>
> 0: Acknowledgements (is first: yes, is last: no)
> 1: Contributors (is first: no, is last: no)
> 2: History of TiddlyWiki (is first: no, is last: no)
> 3: License (is first: no, is last: no)
> 4: Releases (is first: no, is last: no)
> 5: RoadMap (is first: no, is last: yes)
>
> Ah this is lovely!
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[Saq Imtiaz]

Can you post the contents of the following (shadow) tiddlers:
$:/config/SyncSystemTiddlersFromServer
$:/config/SyncFilter

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:18:54 PM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 5.1.22 
>> but should be resolved in 5.1.23
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the kind of 
>>> thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, right? 
>>>
>>> It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its source 
>>> code. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.

 With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river (list of 
 open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is updated. and All 
 views of the same wiki also update.

 I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is not 
 saved.
 Regards
 Tones

 On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that I 
> use a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application that's 
> not related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with the 
> follow syntax:
>
> http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
>
> Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki once I 
> have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is that if I open 
> a 
> different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes all my tabs 
> on 
> the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an example, let's 
> say 
> that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and then I open a 
> different set of tiddlers on the following link:
>
> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
> [[differentTiddler3]]
>
> In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the browser 
> containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] 
> [[tiddler3]] will change to 
> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
> [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs will have the same content. 
> Is 
> it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from updating its pages like that? Just so 
> if I open different sets of tiddlers on different pages on the browser 
> they 
> will remain the same no matter how much time passes by?
>


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[tw5] New magic of $list widget in Tiddlywiki 5.1.24: The index attribute

[Mohammad Rahmani]

You may now, the $list widget, is the most common widget you use in
Tiddlywiki! It is everywhere like a nice dog!

The $list widget in 5.1.24 has got a new attribute index! in which the
numeric index of each listed tiddler is stored  It can produce very nice
results like below


<$list filter="[tag[About]sort[title]]" index="index">

<>: ''<$text text=<>/>'' (is first:
<>, is last: <>)





Displays as:

0: Acknowledgements (is first: yes, is last: no)
1: Contributors (is first: no, is last: no)
2: History of TiddlyWiki (is first: no, is last: no)
3: License (is first: no, is last: no)
4: Releases (is first: no, is last: no)
5: RoadMap (is first: no, is last: yes)

Ah this is lovely!




Best wishes
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[muynars...@gmail.com]

Running the command "tiddlywiki --version" I see 5.1.23...

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:24:58 AM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 5.1.22 
> but should be resolved in 5.1.23
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the kind of 
>> thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, right? 
>>
>> It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its source 
>> code. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.
>>>
>>> With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river (list of 
>>> open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is updated. and All 
>>> views of the same wiki also update.
>>>
>>> I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is not 
>>> saved.
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>

 I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that I use 
 a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application that's not 
 related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with the follow 
 syntax:

 http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]

 Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki once I 
 have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is that if I open a 
 different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes all my tabs on 
 the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an example, let's say 
 that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and then I open a 
 different set of tiddlers on the following link:

 http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
 [[differentTiddler3]]

 In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the browser 
 containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] 
 [[tiddler3]] will change to 
 http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
 [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs will have the same content. 
 Is 
 it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from updating its pages like that? Just so 
 if I open different sets of tiddlers on different pages on the browser 
 they 
 will remain the same no matter how much time passes by?

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Streams 0.2 preview

[Saq Imtiaz]

 Apologies for the typos, I'm on my phone this evening.


On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:56:37 PM UTC+2 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> @Mike if you can post a file with an example of a node structure you want 
> to clone, I can help you figure a solution for it.
>
> For pasting in lists for other places, try saving the node with alt+enter. 
> By default it splits on \n\n though that is configurable in the settings.
> This works for copying and pasting from a webpage in a web browser, though 
> it doesn't respect hierarchy so is suitable for flat lists only.
>  I have no idea about Word and it's I'll, haven't used them in about ten 
> years.
>
> I posted a proof of concept a while back for using Streams as an editor 
> for lists in wikitext. There might be ideas useful to you in there as well.
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:43:21 PM UTC+2 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Saq,
>>
>> I checked out the new get-stream-root and it seems to deal with a missing 
>> parent tiddler correctly now. I am fine with installing relink ... it is a 
>> great plugin on its own and I'm not sure why I don't have in installed in 
>> all my tiddlywikis.
>>
>> The specific use cases that I have for cloning parent nodes are Daily 
>> logs, Action item logs and Agendas. But thinking more about it, it almost 
>> seems like those need something like sub-streams where you could have a 
>> common linked stream structure with tiddler-specific sub-streams. I don't 
>> think the complexity is worth the gain. I think just a clone-stream button 
>> that will copy the existing structure to a new tiddler would be sufficient. 
>> That is something I could likely hack together given enough time ... 
>> dealing with title lists is not my forté but maybe I can reuse some of the 
>> results of my previous struggles.
>>
>> The other automation that I want to figure out is how to best import 
>> unordered lists via copy and paste from other sources into streams as I am 
>> always bringing in lists from other places. Copying bulleted lists from 
>> LibreOffice and MSOffice products seems to copy the bullet characters so 
>> those could likely be cues to break a part the list in the proper way. I am 
>> not sure what copying a list from a webpage would do ... maybe they come 
>> with the  tags. 
>>
>>- 
>>
>>Item one
>>- 
>>
>>item two
>>- 
>>   
>>   sub-item of two
>>   - 
>>  
>>  sub-sub-item of two
>>  - 
>>
>>item three
>>
>> Copying from LibreOffice Writer gives the above and I think that matches 
>> what Word and Outlook give. I have no idea how to trigger that parsing 
>> action on pasting the text but maybe a keyboard shortcut or bullet dropdown 
>> option is doable.
>>
>> /Mike
>>
>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 6:17:40 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Relink is indeed a necessary dependency for Streams to handle renaming 
>>> of tiddlers. I wish there was a way to make it mandatory to have installed, 
>>> if not installed automatically with Streams.
>>>
>>> The get-stream-root[] filter is completely broken. Thank you for making 
>>> me realize that. I wrote that in about 5 minutes at the end of a long day 
>>> before posting this version.. I really shouldn't have. I am surprised it 
>>> works at all! So as to not make the same mistake twice, I'll wait until 
>>> tomorrow to push a new version.
>>>
>>> One thought, what makes more sense: 
>>>
>>> [[mytiddler]get-stream-root[]] or [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] ?
>>> Note that with the suffix includeall, you can get all the intermediate 
>>> tiddlers as well, starting with the root and ending with the tiddler you 
>>> started at.. e.g.: [[mytiddler]get-stream-root:includeall[]]
>>>
>>> This form makes me wonder if [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] is the way to 
>>> go, so that the filter can only ever have one input title.
>>>
>>> Regarding cloning a root tiddler, it will break some of the keyboard and 
>>> drag and drop behaviour as well. If the desire is to be able to create a 
>>> node structure easily for things you do frequently, the code and approach I 
>>> posted for Arun above is probably the way to go rather than cloning 
>>> tiddlers. If I am misunderstanding the use case, please do elaborate.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 4:08:47 PM UTC+2 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thank you for your hard work, Saq. I am getting a lot of use out of 
 streams.

 I played around with get-steam-root on your site. As I understand it, 
 the use of the relink plugin is recommended/necessary for doing 
 stream-root 
 tiddler renames and having everything work since the built-in rename 
 doesn't seem to keep all the connections. Is that the case? The main 
 functionality of streams works through a standard rename (with the 
 renaming 
 of all tags and list fields) but get-stream-root breaks because the 
 "parent" fields

[tw5] Re: Streams 0.2 preview

[Saq Imtiaz]

@Mike if you can post a file with an example of a node structure you want 
to clone, I can help you figure a solution for it.

For pasting in lists for other places, try saving the node with alt+enter. 
By default it splits on \n\n though that is configurable in the settings.
This works for copying and pasting from a webpage in a web browser, though 
it doesn't respect hierarchy so is suitable for flat lists only.
 I have no idea about Word and it's I'll, haven't used them in about ten 
years.

I posted a proof of concept a while back for using Streams as an editor for 
lists in wikitext. There might be ideas useful to you in there as well.

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 4:43:21 PM UTC+2 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Saq,
>
> I checked out the new get-stream-root and it seems to deal with a missing 
> parent tiddler correctly now. I am fine with installing relink ... it is a 
> great plugin on its own and I'm not sure why I don't have in installed in 
> all my tiddlywikis.
>
> The specific use cases that I have for cloning parent nodes are Daily 
> logs, Action item logs and Agendas. But thinking more about it, it almost 
> seems like those need something like sub-streams where you could have a 
> common linked stream structure with tiddler-specific sub-streams. I don't 
> think the complexity is worth the gain. I think just a clone-stream button 
> that will copy the existing structure to a new tiddler would be sufficient. 
> That is something I could likely hack together given enough time ... 
> dealing with title lists is not my forté but maybe I can reuse some of the 
> results of my previous struggles.
>
> The other automation that I want to figure out is how to best import 
> unordered lists via copy and paste from other sources into streams as I am 
> always bringing in lists from other places. Copying bulleted lists from 
> LibreOffice and MSOffice products seems to copy the bullet characters so 
> those could likely be cues to break a part the list in the proper way. I am 
> not sure what copying a list from a webpage would do ... maybe they come 
> with the  tags. 
>
>- 
>
>Item one
>- 
>
>item two
>- 
>   
>   sub-item of two
>   - 
>  
>  sub-sub-item of two
>  - 
>
>item three
>
> Copying from LibreOffice Writer gives the above and I think that matches 
> what Word and Outlook give. I have no idea how to trigger that parsing 
> action on pasting the text but maybe a keyboard shortcut or bullet dropdown 
> option is doable.
>
> /Mike
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 6:17:40 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Relink is indeed a necessary dependency for Streams to handle renaming of 
>> tiddlers. I wish there was a way to make it mandatory to have installed, if 
>> not installed automatically with Streams.
>>
>> The get-stream-root[] filter is completely broken. Thank you for making 
>> me realize that. I wrote that in about 5 minutes at the end of a long day 
>> before posting this version.. I really shouldn't have. I am surprised it 
>> works at all! So as to not make the same mistake twice, I'll wait until 
>> tomorrow to push a new version.
>>
>> One thought, what makes more sense: 
>>
>> [[mytiddler]get-stream-root[]] or [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] ?
>> Note that with the suffix includeall, you can get all the intermediate 
>> tiddlers as well, starting with the root and ending with the tiddler you 
>> started at.. e.g.: [[mytiddler]get-stream-root:includeall[]]
>>
>> This form makes me wonder if [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] is the way to 
>> go, so that the filter can only ever have one input title.
>>
>> Regarding cloning a root tiddler, it will break some of the keyboard and 
>> drag and drop behaviour as well. If the desire is to be able to create a 
>> node structure easily for things you do frequently, the code and approach I 
>> posted for Arun above is probably the way to go rather than cloning 
>> tiddlers. If I am misunderstanding the use case, please do elaborate.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saq
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 4:08:47 PM UTC+2 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your hard work, Saq. I am getting a lot of use out of 
>>> streams.
>>>
>>> I played around with get-steam-root on your site. As I understand it, 
>>> the use of the relink plugin is recommended/necessary for doing stream-root 
>>> tiddler renames and having everything work since the built-in rename 
>>> doesn't seem to keep all the connections. Is that the case? The main 
>>> functionality of streams works through a standard rename (with the renaming 
>>> of all tags and list fields) but get-stream-root breaks because the 
>>> "parent" fields don't get updated and returns the input node rather than 
>>> the last valid parent found. For instance, given this example stream,
>>>
>>> Parent
>>> |node
>>> ||subnode
>>> |||sub-sub-node
>>>
>>> [[sub-sub-node]get-stream-root[]] will return "sub-sub-no

Re: [tw5] Should tags be singular or plural?

[Charlie Veniot]

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 5:51:48 AM UTC-3 note2... wrote:

> Si
>
> I pondered   over this some time and apply the following practice:
>
> A tag is singular like "Task"
> The plural "Tasks" is a tiddler that lists all stages tiddlers or offers 
> editing functions of some sort
>
> Pit.W
>
>>
>> Ditto for this kid.

What kind of ship is this?  It is a battleship.  "battleship" is my tag.  
 "Battleships" is my tiddler listing all tiddlers tagged "battleship". 

Yeah, I've got the game on my mind...

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Re: [tw5] Presenting: list-table-draggable - drag'n drop rows of data

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Mat,
 Nice idea! Clever solution!

One minor comment: (ignore)
In the demo page of plugin I tried reorder rows in example two and then I
saw other examples updated! I know the reason!
But I suggest what do you think if a stateTiddler or variable is used here
so it keeps tables independent!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 5:44 PM Mat  wrote:

> *"Don't be a square. Be a table."*
> - Aristotle
>
> The *TWaddleur* proudly presents
> list-table-draggable 
> ~ structured data in draggable rows ~
>
> Where the core macros *list-links-draggable* and *list-tagged-draggable* 
> merely
> shows each list item as the *title*, the rendered list,
> *list-table-draggable* lets you show each list item as a *row
> with complex data*.
>
> The data is presented in a *table* e.g styled like tab-separated values
> :
>
> [image: tsv.png]
>
> ...and, as noted, you might want to drag'n drop to rearrange them.
>
> <:-)
>
> P.S I think this functionality should be possible by default in TW. Do you
> agree?
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[tw5] Re: Get backlinks from fields

[Charlie Veniot]

If that bit of TiddlyWiki code is in some tiddler (let's just say tiddler 
XYZ), and you are transcluding tiddler XYZ in other tiddlers ...

It may be simply the difference between transcluding via {{ XYZ }} versus 
transcluding via {{ || XYZ }} ?

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-3 jonb...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is so helpful, thanks very much! Currently experimenting with your 
> recommendation in that thread, something like:
>
> <$list 
> filter="[relink:references!is[system]!title[$:/StoryList]sort[title]]"/>
>
> Unfortunately it isn't giving me what I expected (maybe  
> isn't set correctly). But I'm sure I'll figure it out soon! 
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:21:24 PM UTC-6 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Continued/elaborated/expanded in a separate thread:  Just a neat use of 
>> Relinks "References" feature 
>> 
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:02:53 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> G'day,
>>>
>>> When the relink plugin is installed, that adds a "Relink References" tab 
>>> to a tiddlers "information".
>>>
>>> That shows "The following tiddlers contain fields, links, macros, 
>>> transclusions, or widgets referencing this one."
>>>
>>> Relink might provide a way for you to get what you're looking for.
>>>
>>> Give it a spin.
>>>
>>> Install the relink plugin, then add the following line in the text of 
>>> Tiddler B:
>>>
>>> {{||$:/plugins/flibbles/relink/ui/TiddlerInfo/References}}
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:50:07 AM UTC-3 jonb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Tiddler A links to Tiddler B, but only in a custom field, not in the 
 main text body. I have backlinks showing on every tiddler, a la Stroll, 
 but 
 the backlink[] operator does not pick up on links in fields, apparently. 
 Any ideas about how to go about making those appear? Am I going to have to 
 mess with the core JavaScript that indexes backlinks? Would prefer not 
 to...

 Thanks in advance!

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Streams 0.2 preview

[Michael Wiktowy]

Hi Saq,

I checked out the new get-stream-root and it seems to deal with a missing 
parent tiddler correctly now. I am fine with installing relink ... it is a 
great plugin on its own and I'm not sure why I don't have in installed in 
all my tiddlywikis.

The specific use cases that I have for cloning parent nodes are Daily logs, 
Action item logs and Agendas. But thinking more about it, it almost seems 
like those need something like sub-streams where you could have a common 
linked stream structure with tiddler-specific sub-streams. I don't think 
the complexity is worth the gain. I think just a clone-stream button that 
will copy the existing structure to a new tiddler would be sufficient. That 
is something I could likely hack together given enough time ... dealing 
with title lists is not my forté but maybe I can reuse some of the results 
of my previous struggles.

The other automation that I want to figure out is how to best import 
unordered lists via copy and paste from other sources into streams as I am 
always bringing in lists from other places. Copying bulleted lists from 
LibreOffice and MSOffice products seems to copy the bullet characters so 
those could likely be cues to break a part the list in the proper way. I am 
not sure what copying a list from a webpage would do ... maybe they come 
with the  tags. 
   
   - 
   
   Item one
   - 
   
   item two
   - 
  
  sub-item of two
  - 
 
 sub-sub-item of two
 - 
   
   item three
   
Copying from LibreOffice Writer gives the above and I think that matches 
what Word and Outlook give. I have no idea how to trigger that parsing 
action on pasting the text but maybe a keyboard shortcut or bullet dropdown 
option is doable.

/Mike

On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 6:17:40 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> Relink is indeed a necessary dependency for Streams to handle renaming of 
> tiddlers. I wish there was a way to make it mandatory to have installed, if 
> not installed automatically with Streams.
>
> The get-stream-root[] filter is completely broken. Thank you for making me 
> realize that. I wrote that in about 5 minutes at the end of a long day 
> before posting this version.. I really shouldn't have. I am surprised it 
> works at all! So as to not make the same mistake twice, I'll wait until 
> tomorrow to push a new version.
>
> One thought, what makes more sense: 
>
> [[mytiddler]get-stream-root[]] or [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] ?
> Note that with the suffix includeall, you can get all the intermediate 
> tiddlers as well, starting with the root and ending with the tiddler you 
> started at.. e.g.: [[mytiddler]get-stream-root:includeall[]]
>
> This form makes me wonder if [get-stream-root[mytiddler]] is the way to 
> go, so that the filter can only ever have one input title.
>
> Regarding cloning a root tiddler, it will break some of the keyboard and 
> drag and drop behaviour as well. If the desire is to be able to create a 
> node structure easily for things you do frequently, the code and approach I 
> posted for Arun above is probably the way to go rather than cloning 
> tiddlers. If I am misunderstanding the use case, please do elaborate.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 4:08:47 PM UTC+2 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your hard work, Saq. I am getting a lot of use out of 
>> streams.
>>
>> I played around with get-steam-root on your site. As I understand it, the 
>> use of the relink plugin is recommended/necessary for doing stream-root 
>> tiddler renames and having everything work since the built-in rename 
>> doesn't seem to keep all the connections. Is that the case? The main 
>> functionality of streams works through a standard rename (with the renaming 
>> of all tags and list fields) but get-stream-root breaks because the 
>> "parent" fields don't get updated and returns the input node rather than 
>> the last valid parent found. For instance, given this example stream,
>>
>> Parent
>> |node
>> ||subnode
>> |||sub-sub-node
>>
>> [[sub-sub-node]get-stream-root[]] will return "sub-sub-node" if "Parent" 
>> doesn't exist (because of deletion or rename). I would have expected it to 
>> go as far as it could and return "node" but maybe just returning itself is 
>> more useful from a diagnostic point of view.
>>
>> I'm also playing around with the consequences and handling of cloning the 
>> stream-root to reuse streams for agendas/daily logs. get-stream-root 
>> doesn't detect that extra root (likely outside the scope of your intent) 
>> but there are other ways to detect if something isn't the original root ... 
>> I just need to figure out the new conditional/comparison filters to compare 
>>  with field:parent.
>>
>> /Mike
>> On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 12:59:55 PM UTC-3 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Apologies for the delay with getting Streams 0.2 released, the last few 
>>> months have been hectic.
>>>
>>> I've found some time to res

[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

If one wants to save on screen real estate, that one tiddler could include 
all sorts of links to external content.

For example:

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?height=600&wkst=1&bgcolor=%23ff&ctz=America%2FHalifax&showNav=1&showPrint=1&showTabs=1&showCalendars=1&mode=MONTH";>Calendar


On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:05:10 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> Screenshot for the $hit$ and the giggle$:
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-04-24 11.02.24 AM - Display 1.png]
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 11:00:26 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really 
>> nice in a narrow sidebar:
>>
>> \define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
>> > https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] }}}>$topic$
>> \end
>>
>> \define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
>> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
>>  
>> }}}>$topic$
>> \end
>>
>> <$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>>   link
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; 
>>> after the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality 
>>> seems to have been compromised.
>>> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does 
>>> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>>>
>>> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's 
>>> macro definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, 
>>> and that seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so 
>>> well if it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>>>
>>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>>
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>   link
>>> >> width="100%">
>>>
>>> 8<--(snip)->8
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 @Eric: Thanbk you.  
 This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
 TiddlyWikiLinks.

 Cheers,
 Hans

 On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems 
>> to be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
>> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight 
>> about 
>> this problem would be appreciated!
>
>
> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
> \define AddTopic(topic)  [[$topic$]encodeuri[]addprefix[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
> }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select field="curr-topic">
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> Notes:
> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter 
> uses "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all 
> special URI characters, not just space.
> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used 
> to show a different selected topic.
>
> enjoy,
> -e 
>


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Re: [tw5] Can you help with these missing tiddlers or sites?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Rather than reposting the updated list, I've posted it here:

https://marxsal.github.io/tw-resources/#Plain%20listing%20bad%20URLs






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Re: [tw5] Can you help with these missing tiddlers or sites?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm sort of thinking that archive.org is kind of a last resort. I'm hoping 
some of these sites have new homes somewhere else. On two of the entries, 
there were RSOE script errors, so archive.org may mess with the code.

I'm tagging archived sites with "Archived-site" .

Thanks!
On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:47:46 AM UTC-7 jeff@gmail.com wrote:

> Some of them are safely archived on the wayback-machine:
>
> Title: checklistdemo (TASK1)
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20180815055803/http://grosinger.net/tw5-checklist/
>
>
> Title: Hamburg Usability Living Lab for SME (EXAP)
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20171225102023/http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de/#Herzlich%20Willkommen
>
>
> Title: Lucky Sushi online store
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20171126155520/http://luckysushi.ru/habarovsk/heeg35.html#index
>
> Title: Newtids (WRT7)
> http://newtids.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Title: TiddlyWiki5 Coding
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190508033757/http://cjhunt.github.io/
>
> Title: UI2-MyStory
> https://web.archive.org/web/20201107230946/https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:06:17 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>  This link
>>
>> Title: DesignWriteStudio presentations (Spring 2018)
>>> Url: 
>>> https://designwritestudio.updog.co/#Spring%202018%20Studio%20Presentations
>>> Problem: designwritestudio.updog.co sent an invalid response.
>>
>>
>> belongs to Steve Schneider (SUNY Polytechnic Institute)
>>
>> The latest post from shows the link http://designwritestudio.com/  works!
>> See presentations tagged with *final-presentation*
>>
>> Ref: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/O07Ca5WxHos/m/9RtEtprdAAAJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:34 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The following contain short titles, urls, and associated problem with 
>>> accessing. I know in some cases the title isn't great, but usually the URL 
>>> provides a clue. I could have included the descriptions, but those can be 
>>> really long. Some of these are actual 404 pages, but others have pages but 
>>> no corresponding tiddler.
>>>
>>> You can reply here, or on my github respository: 
>>> https://github.com/Marxsal/tw-resources
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Title: Anchor links using HTML(LI1)
>>> Url: 
>>> https://00ss.github.io/documentation/tiddlywiki.html#Anchor%20Links%20using%20HTML
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: checklistdemo (TASK1)
>>> Url: https://grosinger.net/tw5-checklist/
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: Condition.json (LS1)
>>> Url: https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/condition.json
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: DesignWriteStudio presentations (Spring 2018)
>>> Url: 
>>> https://designwritestudio.updog.co/#Spring%202018%20Studio%20Presentations
>>> Problem: designwritestudio.updog.co sent an invalid response.
>>>
>>> Title: escapecss
>>> Url: https://burningtreec.github.io/TW5-escapecss/
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: FilteredTags by bimlas (TAG)
>>> Url: 
>>> https://bimlas.gitlab.io/#Filter%20by%20multiple%20tags%20easily%3A%20FilteredTag%20example
>>> Problem: Missing
>>>
>>> Title: GitNote (EXAP)
>>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/gitnote/
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: Hamburg Usability Living Lab for SME (EXAP)
>>> Url: http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de/#Herzlich%20Willkommen
>>> Problem: Missing
>>>
>>> Title: here (SPD1)
>>> Url: http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Harmonic%20Lattice
>>> Problem: Missing
>>>
>>> Title: Inspect variable and macro definitions
>>> Url: 
>>> https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/clutterstack-TW5-com/#Inspect%20variable%20and%20macro%20definitions
>>> Problem: Landing tiddler missing
>>>
>>> Title: Inspect variable and macro definitions (TIDM)
>>> Url: 
>>> https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/clutterstack-TW5-com/#Inspect%20variable%20and%20macro%20definitions
>>> Problem: This macro doesn't seem to be on the site.
>>>
>>> Title: LinuxNote (EXAP)
>>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/linuxnote/
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: Lucky Sushi online store
>>> Url: http://luckysushi.ru/habarovsk/heeg35.html#index
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: My first steps with TiddlyWiki
>>> Url: http://erwans-learning-tw.bitballoon.com/
>>> Problem: No site
>>>
>>> Title: MyStory (NAV2)
>>> Url: 
>>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FMyStory
>>> Problem: Missing tiddler
>>>
>>> Title: Newtids (WRT7)
>>> Url: http://newtids.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> Problem: 504 Gateway Time-out
>>>
>>> Title: Reminders (TASK2)
>>> Url: 
>>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Freminders
>>> Problem: Tiddler landing spot missing
>>>
>>> Title: Stephen Teacher Academic Resources
>>> Url: http://stephenteacher.uk.to/Star2
>>> Problem: Site can’t be reached
>>>
>>> Title: Teknologia (EXAP)
>>> Url: http://teknologia.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> Problem: 404
>>>
>>> Title: TiddlyNote
>>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/tiddl

Re: [tw5] Can you help with these missing tiddlers or sites?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks!

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 9:06:17 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>  This link
>
> Title: DesignWriteStudio presentations (Spring 2018)
>> Url: 
>> https://designwritestudio.updog.co/#Spring%202018%20Studio%20Presentations
>> Problem: designwritestudio.updog.co sent an invalid response.
>
>
> belongs to Steve Schneider (SUNY Polytechnic Institute)
>
> The latest post from shows the link http://designwritestudio.com/  works!
> See presentations tagged with *final-presentation*
>
> Ref: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/O07Ca5WxHos/m/9RtEtprdAAAJ
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:34 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> The following contain short titles, urls, and associated problem with 
>> accessing. I know in some cases the title isn't great, but usually the URL 
>> provides a clue. I could have included the descriptions, but those can be 
>> really long. Some of these are actual 404 pages, but others have pages but 
>> no corresponding tiddler.
>>
>> You can reply here, or on my github respository: 
>> https://github.com/Marxsal/tw-resources
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Title: Anchor links using HTML(LI1)
>> Url: 
>> https://00ss.github.io/documentation/tiddlywiki.html#Anchor%20Links%20using%20HTML
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: checklistdemo (TASK1)
>> Url: https://grosinger.net/tw5-checklist/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: Condition.json (LS1)
>> Url: https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/condition.json
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: DesignWriteStudio presentations (Spring 2018)
>> Url: 
>> https://designwritestudio.updog.co/#Spring%202018%20Studio%20Presentations
>> Problem: designwritestudio.updog.co sent an invalid response.
>>
>> Title: escapecss
>> Url: https://burningtreec.github.io/TW5-escapecss/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: FilteredTags by bimlas (TAG)
>> Url: 
>> https://bimlas.gitlab.io/#Filter%20by%20multiple%20tags%20easily%3A%20FilteredTag%20example
>> Problem: Missing
>>
>> Title: GitNote (EXAP)
>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/gitnote/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: Hamburg Usability Living Lab for SME (EXAP)
>> Url: http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de/#Herzlich%20Willkommen
>> Problem: Missing
>>
>> Title: here (SPD1)
>> Url: http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Harmonic%20Lattice
>> Problem: Missing
>>
>> Title: Inspect variable and macro definitions
>> Url: 
>> https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/clutterstack-TW5-com/#Inspect%20variable%20and%20macro%20definitions
>> Problem: Landing tiddler missing
>>
>> Title: Inspect variable and macro definitions (TIDM)
>> Url: 
>> https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/clutterstack-TW5-com/#Inspect%20variable%20and%20macro%20definitions
>> Problem: This macro doesn't seem to be on the site.
>>
>> Title: LinuxNote (EXAP)
>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/linuxnote/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: Lucky Sushi online store
>> Url: http://luckysushi.ru/habarovsk/heeg35.html#index
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: My first steps with TiddlyWiki
>> Url: http://erwans-learning-tw.bitballoon.com/
>> Problem: No site
>>
>> Title: MyStory (NAV2)
>> Url: 
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FMyStory
>> Problem: Missing tiddler
>>
>> Title: Newtids (WRT7)
>> Url: http://newtids.tiddlyspot.com/
>> Problem: 504 Gateway Time-out
>>
>> Title: Reminders (TASK2)
>> Url: 
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Freminders
>> Problem: Tiddler landing spot missing
>>
>> Title: Stephen Teacher Academic Resources
>> Url: http://stephenteacher.uk.to/Star2
>> Problem: Site can’t be reached
>>
>> Title: Teknologia (EXAP)
>> Url: http://teknologia.tiddlyspot.com/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: TiddlyNote
>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/tiddlynote/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: TiddlyWiki5 Coding
>> Url: http://cjhunt.github.io/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: UI2-MyStory
>> Url: 
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FMyStory
>> Problem: Missing tiddler
>>
>> Title: Unpack CSV rows to individual tiddlers (SPD1)
>> Url: https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/csv_unpack.html
>> Problem: Redirects
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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

My revised version uses Wikipedia's "mobile" view , which looks really nice 
in a narrow sidebar:

\define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] 
}}}>$topic$
\end

\define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=]addsuffix[&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile]]
 
}}}>$topic$
\end

<$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">

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  link



On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:49:48 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:

> Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; after 
> the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality seems 
> to have been compromised.
> @Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does 
> it display & function correctly in your sidebar?
>
> Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's macro 
> definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, and that 
> seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so well if 
> it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
>
> \define AddTopic(topic)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> 8<--(snip)->8
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
>> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
>> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
 PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
 clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
 msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to 
 be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
 remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about 
 this problem would be appreciated!
>>>
>>>
>>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>>> \define AddTopic(topic) >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>>
>>> <$select field="curr-topic">
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>>   link
>>> 
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter uses 
>>> "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all special 
>>> URI characters, not just space.
>>> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
>>> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
>>> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
>>> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
>>> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
>>> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used to 
>>> show a different selected topic.
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e 
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Presenting: list-table-draggable - drag'n drop rows of data

[Hans Huber]

Maybe itshould rather be an official plugin in order to keep the default
version slim?

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 15:14 Mat  wrote:

> *"Don't be a square. Be a table."*
> - Aristotle
>
> The *TWaddleur* proudly presents
> list-table-draggable 
> ~ structured data in draggable rows ~
>
> Where the core macros *list-links-draggable* and *list-tagged-draggable* 
> merely
> shows each list item as the *title*, the rendered list,
> *list-table-draggable* lets you show each list item as a *row
> with complex data*.
>
> The data is presented in a *table* e.g styled like tab-separated values
> :
>
> [image: tsv.png]
>
> ...and, as noted, you might want to drag'n drop to rearrange them.
>
> <:-)
>
> P.S I think this functionality should be possible by default in TW. Do you
> agree?
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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Charlie Veniot]

That is good stuff, Eric.  Thanks!

If you don't mind me standing on your shoulders for a moment:

If one prefers the one tiddler to handle it all (well, 
TiddlyWiki.com/static and Wikipedia, others at your discretion) ...

\define AddTiddlyWikiTopic( topic )
https://tiddlywiki.com/static/]addsuffix[.html]] 
}}}>$topic$
\end

\define AddWikipediaTopic( topic )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
}}}>$topic$
\end

<$select tiddler={{Docs!!title}} field="curr-topic">

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  link



On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 9:30:04 AM UTC-3 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to be 
>> objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to remove 
>> that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about this 
>> problem would be appreciated!
>
>
> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
> \define AddTopic(topic)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select field="curr-topic">
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> Notes:
> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter uses 
> "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all special 
> URI characters, not just space.
> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) 
> and each transcluded instance can be used to show a different selected 
> topic.
>
> enjoy,
> -e 
>

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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[ludwa6]

Thanks @Eric : it does indeed work nicely -only not in the sidebar; after 
the streamlining you've done on Charlie's script, that functionality seems 
to have been compromised.
@Hans: Have you implemented Eric's script without modification, and does it 
display & function correctly in your sidebar?

Anyway: Without really understanding the code, i'm now using Eric's macro 
definition line at the top, followed by Charlie's UI-related code, and that 
seems to work pretty well, tho the sidebar view doesn't flow so well if 
it's set too narrow; i can certainly live w/ this -happy!/w

8<--(snip)->8

\define AddTopic(topic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
}}}>$topic$

<$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">

<>
<>
<>
  link


8<--(snip)->8
On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:07:33 PM UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Eric: Thanbk you.  
> This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
> TiddlyWikiLinks.
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
>>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to 
>>> be objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to 
>>> remove that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about 
>>> this problem would be appreciated!
>>
>>
>> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
>> \define AddTopic(topic) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>>
>> <$select field="curr-topic">
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>   link
>> 
>>
>> Notes:
>> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter uses 
>> "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all special 
>> URI characters, not just space.
>> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
>> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
>> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
>> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
>> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., 
>> {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) and each transcluded instance can be used to 
>> show a different selected topic.
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e 
>>
>

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[tw5] Presenting: list-table-draggable - drag'n drop rows of data

[Mat]

*"Don't be a square. Be a table."* 
- Aristotle

The *TWaddleur* proudly presents
list-table-draggable 
~ structured data in draggable rows ~

Where the core macros *list-links-draggable* and *list-tagged-draggable* merely 
shows each list item as the *title*, the rendered list, 
*list-table-draggable* lets you show each list item as a *row with complex 
data*.

The data is presented in a *table* e.g styled like tab-separated values 
:

[image: tsv.png]

...and, as noted, you might want to drag'n drop to rearrange them.

<:-)

P.S I think this functionality should be possible by default in TW. Do you 
agree?

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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Hans Wobbe]

@Eric: Thanbk you.  
This works nicely and is, of course, quite extensible to sites like 
TiddlyWikiLinks.

Cheers,
Hans

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 8:30:04 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix 
>> clause back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error 
>> msg, but the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to be 
>> objecting to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to remove 
>> that w/o reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about this 
>> problem would be appreciated!
>
>
> Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
> \define AddTopic(topic)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] }}}>$topic$
>
> <$select field="curr-topic">
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> Notes:
> * The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter uses 
> "encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all special 
> URI characters, not just space.
> * The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
> tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
> corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
> {{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
> transclude the above content as a template (e.g., {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) 
> and each transcluded instance can be used to show a different selected 
> topic.
>
> enjoy,
> -e 
>

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Re: [tw5] [LFF] [Discussion] Using the layout switching mecanism to host a landingpage on the tiddlywiki website.

[Odin]

Hi Alvaro,

Thanks for replying! 
TailwindCSS includes a script that purges all unused CSS from the CSS file, 
which is really handy. So the extra CSS for this landing page is about 
11kb. All in all, it adds 0,3MB to the TiddlyWiki website file. Which isn't 
that bad I think.

"...   you add a lof of noise in html. You need add too many classes for 
each element, and it is very similar to use inline styles but with 
shortcuts. (I know it, I am sometime too purist/perfectionist)"

This is off-topic, but I think it is just a difference in design 
philosophy. After a while, it is easy to read the classes, and this way you 
don't have to ever see the CSS file. (google object/component-orientated 
CSS vs utility-first CSS).




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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 3:16:22 AM UTC-7 ludwa6 wrote:

> PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix clause 
> back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error msg, but 
> the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to be objecting 
> to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to remove that w/o 
> reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about this problem 
> would be appreciated!


Try this in a tiddler named "ShowWikipediaFrame":
\define AddTopic(topic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]] 
}}}>$topic$

<$select field="curr-topic">
<>
<>
<>
  link


Notes:
* The filter  in AddTopic  needed a closing "]]".  Also, the filter uses 
"encodeuri[]" rather than "split[ ]join[%2520]".  This handles all special 
URI characters, not just space.
* The target tiddler for storing the $select widget value is the *current 
tiddler*, rather than "Wikipedia" (or {{Wikipedia!!title}}) and the 
corresponding  and  params simply fetch 
{{!!curr-topic}} (i.e., from the current tiddler).  This allows you 
transclude the above content as a template (e.g., {{||ShowWikipediaFrame}}) 
and each transcluded instance can be used to show a different selected 
topic.

enjoy,
-e 

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[tw5] Re: Datatable Integration in TW5

[PMario]

Hi Joost, 
And welcome!

If you have a look here https://links.tiddlywiki.com/topics/tables/ you may 
find something useful, that already works for TW?

Including jQuery plugins isn't the best way to go with TW, because the step 
on each others toes. 

-mario

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[tw5] Datatable Integration in TW5

[joost van den Dool]

Goodafternoon,

I started since a while to play with TW5 and I love it. I created a 
personal planning tool with weekly logs, journal items and stakeholder 
pages. My next step is to create an activity overview. Each activity is a 
tiddler and in the overview I show title, category, assignee and quarter 
(in which the activity should be done e.g. 2021Q2).
Now i would like to use the JavaScript framework datatables 
(https://datatables.net/) to enhance this table with sorting and grouping. 
For instance I want to group on category or quarter to get better insight.
I made a tiddler which I tagged as $:/tags/RawMarkup and set the type 
to: text/vnd.tiddlywiki the content of the tidder is:
https://cdn.datatables.net/1.10.24/css/jquery.dataTables.css";>
https://cdn.datatables.net/rowgroup/1.1.2/css/rowGroup.dataTables.min.css";>
https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/3.5.1/jquery.min.js";>
https://cdn.datatables.net/1.10.24/js/jquery.dataTables.js";>
https://cdn.datatables.net/rowgroup/1.1.2/js/dataTables.rowGroup.min.js";>

$(document).ready( function () {

debugger;

$(table).DataTable( {
paging: false,
order: [[2, 'asc']],
rowGroup: {
dataSrc: 2
}
} );
} );


this is the logic I tested first in a standalone html page to test the 
datatable.  Running this I get an uncaught exception. When I look in the 
develop console of my Chrome browser I see that table is not defined. Also 
when I try other jQuery commands on table it fails. Although jQuery on the 
document works. 

Anyone an idea how to include this great library to enhance my tables?

Kind regards, Joost

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[tw5] Re: German documentation / deutsche Dokumentation

[PMario]

Hi Frank,

Sorry for the late reply. 
I'm maintaining the German edition and did just create a github issue.  
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/5629
I did read your post and liked it a lot. It seems you doubled the number of 
translated tiddlers. That's really cool!
I'll definitely try to include your translations into the existing version. 
Just "bump" this thread or the github issue, in case I forget about it ;)

--

Hallo Fank, 
Ich habe dieses "post" vor ein paar Tagen schon gesehen und mich sehr über 
die Unterstützung gefreut! Allerdings war es schon ziemlich spät ;)

Ich habe zudem auf github ein neues "issue" angelegt. Siehe link oben. 

Wir können uns hier oder auf github weiter unterhalten. .. Auch in Deutsch, 
wenn Dir das lieber ist.
Ich werde Deine neu übersetzten Tiddler so bald als möglich übernehmen. ... 

Allerdings brauche ich auch ab und zu einen kleine "Schubser" damit was 
weiter geht ;) Also hab keine Scheu, diesen "thread" hier oder auf github 
ab und zu, zu reaktivieren, damit es nicht in Vergessenheit gerät.

mit sonnigen Grüßen aus der Nähe von Salzburg
Mario

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Re: [tw5] [LFF] [Discussion] Using the layout switching mecanism to host a landingpage on the tiddlywiki website.

[Álvaro]

Hi Odin

Great work! It looks great.And the idea of use other layout is wonderful.

Tailwind (Bootstrap, ...) is a great tool for prototyping a webpage. But I 
don't like it because, as you said, you need add extra load to the webpage, 
and also you add a lof of noise in html. You need add too many classes for 
each element, and it is very similar to use inline styles but with 
shortcuts. (I know it, I am sometime too purist/perfectionist)

Regards,
Álvaro
El sábado, 24 de abril de 2021 a las 0:27:28 UTC+2, j.te...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> Hi there Odin,
>
> Oh wow!
> Classy and clever...that will certainly be nice to have 
> for the next version of TW. Hopefully you and Jeremy 
> can figure something out.
>
> There's nothing like an enticing landing page to attract 
> prospective new users.
>
> Beautiful stuff Odin!
>
> Best regards,
> Julio
>
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 3:23:53 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Odin,
>>  Great job! I hope we can have a great Tiddlywiki landing page!
>>  Go with Jeremy and hopefully TW 5.1.24 has such a landing page!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:12 PM Odin  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I spent some time learning the Tailwind CSS framework 
>>>  and made a concept of a landing page for 
>>> TiddlyWiki.  A landing 
>>> page is something that has come up earlier in this forum as something that 
>>> could improve the new user experience (1) 
>>> . 
>>> PM mario has made a proposal earlier (2) 
>>> , 
>>> but I couldn't find any follow-up on this.
>>>
>>> TiddlyWIki 5.1.23 introduced a page-layout switching mechanism that I 
>>> used to include the landing page inside TiddlyWiki. This allows visitors to 
>>> switch instantly from the landing page to the normal TiddlyWiki website. So 
>>> with this proposal, we keep all the documentation within a press of a 
>>> button. (Jeremy used this for the TiddlyWiki-on-fission project to make 
>>> a login screen ).
>>>
>>> Furthermore, I think having a landing page as a layout opens up the 
>>> possibility to use TiddlyWikis power to have content dynamically generated 
>>> on the landing page. It would also be really cool to showcase some widgets 
>>> and macros and have the user be able to interact with them inside the 
>>> landing page. For example the section 'get started' uses transclusion to 
>>> use the saving tiddler (the one that has the grid of cards with saving 
>>> options). 
>>>
>>> I am hoping to spark some discussion on this idea. Is it will be 
>>> feasible to use? If so, I am looking for feedback on the landing page. I 
>>> used a standard color scheme that comes with TailwindCSS, but it is of 
>>> course possible to insert another color scheme.
>>> What kind of sections do you think would help TiddlyWiki's visibility? 
>>> How can we include more complicated widgets and macros within HTML without 
>>> it breaking?
>>>
>>> I've hosted the file on tiddlyhost so you can take a look: 
>>> https://landingpage-example.tiddlyhost.com/
>>>
>>> pros:
>>> * A pretty landing page is a welcoming experience for new users. Other 
>>> 'competitors' have landing pages as well that look really aesthetically 
>>> pleasing. It could help grow the TiddlyWiki community grow.
>>> * It is built inside the TiddyWiki website. Pressing the `documentation` 
>>> button or the `try it out` button instantly switches the view to the normal 
>>> TiddlyWiki layout.
>>> * It may be possible to include content dynamically on the landing page 
>>> via list widgets. 
>>> * (if it works) We could showcase the powers of widgets, macros etc. 
>>> right on the landing page. Although I ran into some issues (see the 
>>> WikiText section) and haven't figured out how to work around this.
>>> * No worries about multiple URLs
>>> * Using tailwind CSS helps create a contemporary looking website
>>>
>>> Cons:
>>> * adds an extra 0.3 mb to the website going from 5.8 mb to 6.1 mb.
>>> * The navigation links in the navbar also open up non-existent tiddlers 
>>> in the background. After switching to the normal layout, these will be on 
>>> top of the story river.
>>>
>>> 1) https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/gH7u07ar_KI/m/LzARDYqZAAAJ
>>> 2) https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/QW7QMfr0kA0/m/8Zq-xTxsBwAJ
>>>
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>>> 

[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[ludwa6]

PS to my last: have fixed part of the problem: by adding the suffix clause 
back into macro (as below), it now pulls not a system-level error msg, but 
the error msg from wikipedia.org site itself, which seems to be objecting 
to the .html extension only... yet i can't find a way to remove that w/o 
reverting to the lower-level error msg.  Any insight about this problem 
would be appreciated!  /walt
 8<-(snip)->8

\define AddTopic( topic )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/]addsuffix[.html]] 
}}}>$topic$
\end

 8<-(snip)->8

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 10:59:27 AM UTC+1 ludwa6 wrote:

> Amazing:  Adding topics from tiddlywiki.com/static to browse from within 
> my own TW instance is a cinch, i find.  Have added an entry for "WikiText", 
> and now i can drill down in 2 clicks for a quick how-to that saves me a 
> good minute or few of context-switching penalty, that will quickly amount 
> to hours of time saved.  Even if that's all we do with it, i can't imagine 
> why anyone would NOT such a documentation utility in their wiki.  Certainly 
> i'll be including this in all my instances from now on.
>
> Now going further: I'm wondering how this might be adapted to other 
> reference sites, even if non-tiddly; could this be possible?  I cloned the 
> tiddler from your latest upload, @Charlie, to see if i can adapt it to pull 
> from my most-commonly referenced site: wikipedia.org.  Called my new 
> tiddler "Wikipedia", changed every instance where your code calls "TW Ref" 
> to a "Wikipedia" call, and swapped in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ as 
> the base URL -deleting the suffix .html, since wikipedia doesn't use that, 
> interestingly.  Now i've got a "Wikipedia" tab in my sidebar, with a new 
> pulldown list for the 3 Wikipedia topics i added, so the UI works fine... 
> But this new utility pulls no content, save the error msg:  "It may have 
> been moved, edited or deleted."
>
> So i'm wondering: is there a bug in my adaptation of code appended below? 
> Or is there some more fundamental problem -like maybe it only works with a 
> TW static site?
>
> /walt
>
> 8<---(snip)--->8
>
> \define AddTopic( topic )
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ }}}>$topic$
> \end
>
> <$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
>   link
> 
>
> 8<---(snip)--->8
>
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:32:07 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> G'day walt (I'm not sure I'm comfortable writing slash walt ...)
>>
>> Oh no, not from TiddlyWiki.com.
>>
>> From tiddlywiki.com/static/
>>
>> So the static pages exported to TiddlyWiki.com/static, not theTiddlyWiki 
>> instance itself (that you get at tiddlywiki.com).
>>
>> Embedding content from a whole TiddlyWiki instance would be way too slow 
>> performance-wise for this kid.
>>
>> Individual static pages on request, that's pretty fast.
>>
>> Please, do take a look at the last attachment I posted in this thread 
>> yesterday (April 22):  unzip that attachment, import the tiddler into any 
>> tiddlywiki (I like to try things right in tiddlywiki.com).
>>
>> If you have any questions about the content in that tiddler or how to add 
>> other items in that select widget, get back to me/us here
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Just a thought: embedding TiddlyWiki documentation in our TiddlyWikis?

[ludwa6]

Amazing:  Adding topics from tiddlywiki.com/static to browse from within my 
own TW instance is a cinch, i find.  Have added an entry for "WikiText", 
and now i can drill down in 2 clicks for a quick how-to that saves me a 
good minute or few of context-switching penalty, that will quickly amount 
to hours of time saved.  Even if that's all we do with it, i can't imagine 
why anyone would NOT such a documentation utility in their wiki.  Certainly 
i'll be including this in all my instances from now on.

Now going further: I'm wondering how this might be adapted to other 
reference sites, even if non-tiddly; could this be possible?  I cloned the 
tiddler from your latest upload, @Charlie, to see if i can adapt it to pull 
from my most-commonly referenced site: wikipedia.org.  Called my new 
tiddler "Wikipedia", changed every instance where your code calls "TW Ref" 
to a "Wikipedia" call, and swapped in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ as the 
base URL -deleting the suffix .html, since wikipedia doesn't use that, 
interestingly.  Now i've got a "Wikipedia" tab in my sidebar, with a new 
pulldown list for the 3 Wikipedia topics i added, so the UI works fine... 
But this new utility pulls no content, save the error msg:  "It may have 
been moved, edited or deleted."

So i'm wondering: is there a bug in my adaptation of code appended below? 
Or is there some more fundamental problem -like maybe it only works with a 
TW static site?

/walt

8<---(snip)--->8

\define AddTopic( topic )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ }}}>$topic$
\end

<$select tiddler={{Wikipedia!!title}} field="curr-topic">

<>
<>
<>
  link


8<---(snip)--->8

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:32:07 PM UTC+1 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> G'day walt (I'm not sure I'm comfortable writing slash walt ...)
>
> Oh no, not from TiddlyWiki.com.
>
> From tiddlywiki.com/static/
>
> So the static pages exported to TiddlyWiki.com/static, not theTiddlyWiki 
> instance itself (that you get at tiddlywiki.com).
>
> Embedding content from a whole TiddlyWiki instance would be way too slow 
> performance-wise for this kid.
>
> Individual static pages on request, that's pretty fast.
>
> Please, do take a look at the last attachment I posted in this thread 
> yesterday (April 22):  unzip that attachment, import the tiddler into any 
> tiddlywiki (I like to try things right in tiddlywiki.com).
>
> If you have any questions about the content in that tiddler or how to add 
> other items in that select widget, get back to me/us here
>

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Re: [tw5] Should tags be singular or plural?

[Hans Huber]

Si

I pondered   over this some time and apply the following practice:

A tag is singular like "Task"
The plural "Tasks" is a tiddler that lists all stages tiddlers or offers
editing functions of some sort



Pit.W


On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 15:51 si  wrote:

> When using tags to indicate "types", which do you prefer and why?
>
>- Task vs Tasks
>- Source vs Sources
>- Book vs Books
>- Song vs Songs
>- Idea vs Ideas
>- Template vs Templates
>- Definition vs Definitions
>
> Trivial question I know. Just wondering if people have a preference, and
> if there is any good reason to pick one over the other.
>
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Re: [tw5] Can you help with these missing tiddlers or sites?

[Jevane]

Some of them are safely archived on the wayback-machine:

Title: checklistdemo (TASK1)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180815055803/http://grosinger.net/tw5-checklist/

Title: Hamburg Usability Living Lab for SME (EXAP)
https://web.archive.org/web/20171225102023/http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de/#Herzlich%20Willkommen

Title: Lucky Sushi online store
https://web.archive.org/web/20171126155520/http://luckysushi.ru/habarovsk/heeg35.html#index

Title: Newtids (WRT7)
http://newtids.tiddlyspot.com/

Title: TiddlyWiki5 Coding
https://web.archive.org/web/20190508033757/http://cjhunt.github.io/

Title: UI2-MyStory
https://web.archive.org/web/20201107230946/https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html

On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 6:06:17 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>  This link
>
> Title: DesignWriteStudio presentations (Spring 2018)
>> Url: 
>> https://designwritestudio.updog.co/#Spring%202018%20Studio%20Presentations
>> Problem: designwritestudio.updog.co sent an invalid response.
>
>
> belongs to Steve Schneider (SUNY Polytechnic Institute)
>
> The latest post from shows the link http://designwritestudio.com/  works!
> See presentations tagged with *final-presentation*
>
> Ref: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/O07Ca5WxHos/m/9RtEtprdAAAJ
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:34 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> The following contain short titles, urls, and associated problem with 
>> accessing. I know in some cases the title isn't great, but usually the URL 
>> provides a clue. I could have included the descriptions, but those can be 
>> really long. Some of these are actual 404 pages, but others have pages but 
>> no corresponding tiddler.
>>
>> You can reply here, or on my github respository: 
>> https://github.com/Marxsal/tw-resources
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Title: Anchor links using HTML(LI1)
>> Url: 
>> https://00ss.github.io/documentation/tiddlywiki.html#Anchor%20Links%20using%20HTML
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: checklistdemo (TASK1)
>> Url: https://grosinger.net/tw5-checklist/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: Condition.json (LS1)
>> Url: https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/condition.json
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: DesignWriteStudio presentations (Spring 2018)
>> Url: 
>> https://designwritestudio.updog.co/#Spring%202018%20Studio%20Presentations
>> Problem: designwritestudio.updog.co sent an invalid response.
>>
>> Title: escapecss
>> Url: https://burningtreec.github.io/TW5-escapecss/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: FilteredTags by bimlas (TAG)
>> Url: 
>> https://bimlas.gitlab.io/#Filter%20by%20multiple%20tags%20easily%3A%20FilteredTag%20example
>> Problem: Missing
>>
>> Title: GitNote (EXAP)
>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/gitnote/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: Hamburg Usability Living Lab for SME (EXAP)
>> Url: http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de/#Herzlich%20Willkommen
>> Problem: Missing
>>
>> Title: here (SPD1)
>> Url: http://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html#Harmonic%20Lattice
>> Problem: Missing
>>
>> Title: Inspect variable and macro definitions
>> Url: 
>> https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/clutterstack-TW5-com/#Inspect%20variable%20and%20macro%20definitions
>> Problem: Landing tiddler missing
>>
>> Title: Inspect variable and macro definitions (TIDM)
>> Url: 
>> https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/clutterstack-TW5-com/#Inspect%20variable%20and%20macro%20definitions
>> Problem: This macro doesn't seem to be on the site.
>>
>> Title: LinuxNote (EXAP)
>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/linuxnote/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: Lucky Sushi online store
>> Url: http://luckysushi.ru/habarovsk/heeg35.html#index
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: My first steps with TiddlyWiki
>> Url: http://erwans-learning-tw.bitballoon.com/
>> Problem: No site
>>
>> Title: MyStory (NAV2)
>> Url: 
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FMyStory
>> Problem: Missing tiddler
>>
>> Title: Newtids (WRT7)
>> Url: http://newtids.tiddlyspot.com/
>> Problem: 504 Gateway Time-out
>>
>> Title: Reminders (TASK2)
>> Url: 
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2Freminders
>> Problem: Tiddler landing spot missing
>>
>> Title: Stephen Teacher Academic Resources
>> Url: http://stephenteacher.uk.to/Star2
>> Problem: Site can’t be reached
>>
>> Title: Teknologia (EXAP)
>> Url: http://teknologia.tiddlyspot.com/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: TiddlyNote
>> Url: https://librenote.aerobaticapp.com/tiddlynote/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: TiddlyWiki5 Coding
>> Url: http://cjhunt.github.io/
>> Problem: 404
>>
>> Title: UI2-MyStory
>> Url: 
>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FMyStory
>> Problem: Missing tiddler
>>
>> Title: Unpack CSV rows to individual tiddlers (SPD1)
>> Url: https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/csv_unpack.html
>> Problem: Redirects
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[tw5] Re: Should tags be singular or plural?

[TiddlyTweeter]

 TW Tones wrote:

> We could automate the use of singular and plural tags at least in some 
> wikis.
>
> Ie any tiddler that has a title tagname+s lists the tiddlers with tagname
>

Could you give an example where *auto-convert* of tag would add value? 

It could help clarify the issue.

Best wishes
TT 

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Re: [tw5] Should tags be singular or plural?

[Jeremy Ruston]

A useful technique to help us harmonise the tags on the links aggregator might 
be for the scraper to define a list of tag aliases to be applied when the links 
are gathered. So, a contributor might use the tag “Plugins” with the aggregator 
aliasing it to “Plugin”. That way we can clean things up quickly, in one 
stroke. We could also build a little tool to generate a JSON file for each 
contributor to import containing their links with the “fixed” tags. It would be 
optional whether the contributor wanted to apply the changes, or stick with 
their own idiosyncratic tags.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 24 Apr 2021, at 06:19, TW Tones  wrote:
> 
> We could automate the use of singular and plural tags at least in some wikis.
> 
> Ie any tiddler that has a title tagname+s lists the tiddlers with tagname.
> 
> Tones
> 
> On Saturday, 24 April 2021 at 07:01:05 UTC+10 PMario wrote:
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 6:37:52 PM UTC+2 Mark S. wrote:
> This discussion isn't entirely academic. On Tiddlylinks there is about 1 tag 
> for every 3 URLs ! One of the reasons is singular/plural. Should it be 
> "Plugin" (19), or "Plugins" (59) ?
> 
> Yea, I know, the "plugin (19)" are mine. ... For exactly the reason, I posted 
> here. 
> And my tags are lowercase, for a similar reason.
> 
> I did add some tags to my plugins, that use the "TW links" convention to play 
> nice. 
> 
> The good thing is. The page search finds them. So IMO we can live with it ;)
> 
> -mario
> 
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Re: [tw5] Experimental Chromium native saver

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Dyllon,


> I wrote a small module for saving using the Chromium file system API (which 
> is in the process of being standardized).
> 
> Example TiddlyWiki 5 Saver Using HTML 5 File System Access API (github.com) 
> 
Great stuff, I’ve been following the File System API with interest, and would 
be keen to get a saver in the core once the spec settles down.

Here’s a link for those unfamiliar:

https://web.dev/file-system-access/ 

I don’t know if any other browsers are planning to implement the API. It seems 
like an obvious requirement for ChromeOS, but perhaps other browsers will have 
less incentive to implement.

> The first time a save action is triggered, it prompts for a save location but 
> future saves should go to the same location.
> 
> It's a bit dangerous because if saving fails, there is no way AFAIK to 
> disable the saver after it loads. I would be interested to know if anyone 
> knows a way to disable a saver after it has already loaded.

I think you’re already following the correct approach: for the save() method to 
synchronously return false if the save cannot proceed so that the next saver in 
the cascade gets a chance.

Another thought with respect to the File System API is that it may be possible 
to write a syncadaptor module so that we can support TiddlyWiki folders 
containing individual .tid files in the browser.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: Stop Tiddlywiki updating different tabs with the same content

[Saq Imtiaz]

Which version of TW are you using? This was an issue introduced in 5.1.22 
but should be resolved in 5.1.23


On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 7:49:28 AM UTC+2 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification... My guess is that this is not the kind of 
> thing that I can change directly on the Tiddlywiki page, right? 
>
> It seems like the kind of change that requires changes inside its source 
> code. 
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:08:04 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> This does not happen on the Bob version of tiddlywiki on node.
>>
>> With vanilla node The trick is when you update the story river (list of 
>> open tiddlers) the tiddler $:/StoryList list field is updated. and All 
>> views of the same wiki also update.
>>
>> I do not know the answer but it involves ensuring this change is not 
>> saved.
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 23 April 2021 at 00:37:10 UTC+10 muynars...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I use the node.js version of tiddlywiki... One functionality that I use 
>>> a lot is calling tiddlers to open from an external application that's not 
>>> related with Tiddlywiki, the way I do it is opening links with the follow 
>>> syntax:
>>>
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] [[tiddler3]]
>>>
>>> Doing this, I can open specifically tiddlers on my Tiddlywiki once I 
>>> have their names. So far everything is ok. The problem is that if I open a 
>>> different set of tiddlers on a new page, after some minutes all my tabs on 
>>> the browser update to the same set of tiddlers... As an example, let's say 
>>> that I've opened the set of tiddler above on a page, and then I open a 
>>> different set of tiddlers on the following link:
>>>
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
>>> [[differentTiddler3]]
>>>
>>> In this case, after some time, my first Tiddlywiki tab on the browser 
>>> containing http://localhost:8089/#:[[tiddller1]] [[tiddler2]] 
>>> [[tiddler3]] will change to 
>>> http://localhost:8089/#:[[differentTiddller1]] [[differentTiddler2]] 
>>> [[differentTiddler3]]... And both of my tabs will have the same content. Is 
>>> it possible to stop Tiddlywiki from updating its pages like that? Just so 
>>> if I open different sets of tiddlers on different pages on the browser they 
>>> will remain the same no matter how much time passes by?
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Experimental Chromium native saver

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Dyllon,
 Interesting! How can I give a try?



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:53 AM Dyllon Gagnier 
wrote:

> I wrote a small module for saving using the Chromium file system API
> (which is in the process of being standardized).
>
> Example TiddlyWiki 5 Saver Using HTML 5 File System Access API (github.com)
> 
>
> The first time a save action is triggered, it prompts for a save location
> but future saves should go to the same location.
>
> It's a bit dangerous because if saving fails, there is no way AFAIK to
> disable the saver after it loads. I would be interested to know if anyone
> knows a way to disable a saver after it has already loaded.
>
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