[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[PJO]

Eric,

I just saw the reference to InsideTiddlyWiki and then found the unfunded 
project. Had I known I'd have contributed. What's the status of this? This 
is badly needed! Have you considered an epublication on Kindle?
>
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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[blackHole]

Hi !
( 1 )
The couple
[[Target##sectionname]]
Anchor
works fine. Still "Anchor" is absent in the menu generated by 
<>.
Tested in Firefox 43.0.1 and Opera 36.0
( 2 )
I'm very glad to answer Mat's question ! At the present moment, I'm not 
studying programming in an Academic environment. I'm member of an informal 
group of persons taking private lessons from a graduate student in IT. 
Tiddlywiki cames in when we got as homework the realization of individual 
course notes and 
I asked for a way smarter than a static html page. Some are using Ms Word, 
some a CMS, some a pencil.
I choose Tiddlywiki option because: (1) an human readable file makes me 
feel more confidend than a murky one from a word processor, (2) learning to 
employ a CMS as well would result, in this situation, excessively demanding.

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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[Mat]

blackHole wrote:
 

> Regarding the choice of classic TiddlyWiki. I'm using it because I have 
> been asked to do so; probably my teacher is simply not still aware of the 
> existence of the newer version. I will inform him.
>

Interesting. In what context is it that you are asked to use TW? What 
educational-level? Is every student asked to use TW? What's the course and 
what task?
If you don't mind me asking :-)

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 12:56:00 PM UTC-7, blackHole wrote:
>
> ( 3 ) 
>
> No doubt it's my fault, but I can't make appear an anchor like
>
> Anchor
>
> in the table of contents generated by <>. Am I leaving out 
> some syntax ?
>

You have an EXTRA "/" at the end of the  (after the quoted sectionname).

Change it to:
Anchor

Let me know how it goes...

enjoy,
-e


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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[blackHole]

 

Hi !

 

( 1 ) 

I'm sorry for my carelessness. I will use [TWC] when appropriate.


( 2 ) 

I have seen SectionLinksPlugin and I find it extremely useful ! Its 
<> macro stands very close to what I'm looking for.


( 3 ) 

No doubt it's my fault, but I can't make appear an anchor like

Anchor

in the table of contents generated by <>. Am I leaving out some 
syntax ?


( 4 ) 

Now, perhaps, I can rephrase my first question in a more comprehensible 
form. I would like to have the possibility to place a macro, let's say 
<>, in the tiddler MyToc and get the linkified list of all 

Anchor

anchors, wherever appear in the whole document (it's to say in all 
Tiddlers).


( 5 ) 

I'm examining carefully Tobias Beer's Linkify. Great plugin also !


( 6 ) 

Regarding the choice of classic TiddlyWiki. I'm using it because I have 
been asked to do so; probably my teacher is simply not still aware of the 
existence of the newer version. I will inform him.


I thank you all for the replies !

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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[Mat]

blackHole wrote:

Recently I have learned about TiddlyWiki ( I'm using TiddlyWiki Classic; 
> version 2.8.1 I presume ), 
>

Welcome blackHole! May I just ask, how come you choose TW Classic rather 
than TW5? You're of course free to do so but I'm really curious why some 
people do so. Particularly, I'm wondering if it might have something to do 
with the name or if there are missing features in TW5?

If I understand your question you are looking for something like Tobias 
Beer's Linkify . That is a very, very cool 
plugin. Only for TW Classic so you're in luck. I wish it was available for 
TW5... but don't let this affect your answer to my question above, because 
you didn't know this, hehe.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[Eric Shulman]

On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 4:21:37 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I don't understand your question. If you create a link inside your text 
> (e.g. [[Define a Class]]) it will automatically create a link. If you click 
> on the link it will take you to the tiddler. If the tiddler doesn't exist, 
> you will be taken to a blank tiddler which you can begin editing to create 
> the tiddler.
> I believe that it worked this way both in TWC and TW5.
> If you want something more advanced than that type of auto-creation, you 
> will probably need to give more details. 
>

As you noted, the standard core behavior (for both TWC and TW5) provides 
syntax for links to tiddler titles (even if they don't exist).  However, 
the OP question was about links that work as "inner refererences" to 
specific places within a tiddler, similar to the HTML-standard  syntax for creating "anchor links" within a web page.

For TWC, I created this plugin:
   http://www.tiddlytools.com/#SectionLinksPlugin

Note: there is no equivalent plugin for TW5... in part, because tiddler 
"sections" are no longer a TiddlyWiki construct.  Instead, the TW5 
philosophy is to create separate tiddlers that define the smallest units of 
"semantic content", and then use standard TW5 navigation, widgets, and 
macros to aggregate and interact with the content in the larger context of 
the entire document.

Also, if you want your answer for TW Classic you should probably change 
> your question or start a new question with the term [TWC] in the title. 
> This will alert people that you need help regarding TWC. I think the answer 
> C Pa was suggesting applied to TW5. TWC is getting old now, and there's 
> going to be fewer people and resources that can help you with issues. You 
> might consider TW5 instead.
>

I agree.  Even though there is no equivalent SectionLinksPlugin for TW5, it 
is a good idea to start all *new* projects using TW5 rather than TWC, since 
TWC'scode base (v2.8.1), though still functional, is VERY old and is no 
longer being actively developed, and the architecture provided by TW5 is 
*much* more powerful and flexible than TWC.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas" (tm)
InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals

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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I don't understand your question. If you create a link inside your text 
(e.g. [[Define a Class]]) it will automatically create a link. If you click 
on the link it will take you to the tiddler. If the tiddler doesn't exist, 
you will be taken to a blank tiddler which you can begin editing to create 
the tiddler.

I believe that it worked this way both in TWC and TW5.

If you want something more advanced than that type of auto-creation, you 
will probably need to give more details. 

Also, if you want your answer for TW Classic you should probably change 
your question or start a new question with the term [TWC] in the title. 
This will alert people that you need help regarding TWC. I think the answer 
C Pa was suggesting applied to TW5. TWC is getting old now, and there's 
going to be fewer people and resources that can help you with issues. You 
might consider TW5 instead.

Good luck!
Mark



On Saturday, April 22, 2017 at 6:14:18 AM UTC-7, blackHole wrote:
>
> Hi !
>
>  
>
> Recently I have learned about TiddlyWiki ( I'm using TiddlyWiki Classic; 
> version 2.8.1 I presume ), but I have tried to learn as much as I could, 
> and now I'm using it to develop a quite long tutorial about programming.
>
>  
>
> My problem is that I need to "automatize" the creation of inner 
> references, it's to say I would like to insert inside the text something  
> looking 
> like "some text ... (HowTo: Define a class) ... some more text" and 
> "magically" find in the tiddler "HowTo" a link "Define a class" pointing to 
> the pertinent, tiddle.
>
>  
>
> Is it practicable ??
>
>  
>
> Thanks for your replies !!
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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

[blackHole]

Hi ! Thank you so much for the reply !

( 1 ) 
How can I create the list of all internal links in all tiddlers ? Does 
exist a specific macro or a plugin ?

( 2 )
Let's say, as example, that we are talking about HTML. The above mentioned 
list should contain all  
bar tags. 
A link pointing to an anchor could be added in a text written many time 
after the anchor creation.
Therefore the point is how to keep an automatically updated list of all 
available anchors.
Anyway a even a list of all bar tags will be very useful.

Bye!

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[tw] Re: Automatically referencing to hot spots

['c pa' via TiddlyWiki]

Dear Mr. Hole,

Yes this is practical. You need to decide how you want it to work, based on 
your needs

Easiest way: [[HowTo:Define a class]] creates a link in this tiddler to a 
tiddler named "HowTo:Define a class"

Then in a different tiddler you can create a list that returns all internal 
links in all tiddlers, from that filter, filter for the prefix "How To:", 
that returns all tiddlers with an internal link to a How To tiddler. 

Is that what you're looking for?

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