[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[Victor Dorneanu]

> if I may suggest you something, I think it is way better to go for 
"server" solution of tiddlty wiki like TW5-Bob 
 or node js than single file wiki

I've used nodeJS solution before on my local machine and it got laggy. I 
guess you can still improve performance but that wasn't the main factor 
I've switched to single files. 

The reason therefor was: I wanted to be able to edit my wikis from 
_everywhere_. That also includes smartphones. And I also didn't want to 
setup a nodeJS environment somewhere in the cloud or using a VPS to host 
the Tiddlywiki instance (I've also tested nodeJS version of Tiddlywiki 
using termux , but that kind of complicated things). 
Besides that I still wanted to "own" the data, that's why I also didn't go 
for tiddlyspot for example. 

Now I use the TiddlyDrive Add-on for Google Drive 

 
which perfectly fits my needs: I can access it from everywhere, using any 
client (smartphone, desktop, chrome, firefox) and it's easy and convenient 
to use. From there I export the files to some S3 bucket, which is publicly 
available. 

But I think this is off-topic and doesn't really have to with the initial 
topic. 

> If you want to search the full tiddlers text and other fields from inside 
a wiki ultimately you actually want these tiddlers inside your wiki

Yeah, but that's exactly what I do not want :) I want to separate concerns 
(like I've mentioned above). There are also 3rd party solutions that allow 
searching in a big JSON database (since we can extract everything from the 
Tiddlywiki in JSON format). I've done this previously with hugo (check out this 
site , especially lunr.js 
). 

To come to a conclusion: I think I need to investigate more time how I want 
to use my *zettelkasten* and my *bibliography*. At the moment I'm just 
feeding those 2 systems with data and in a 2nd process I actually link 
between tiddlers. At that point I might find best practices how to deal 
with "external" tiddlers. Currently I just need to know if there are 
already tiddlers related to a topic and if yes, _where_ are they :) 

Thanks for your valuable input. 

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Victor/skaczm...@gmail.com,
>
> With respect this experience of yours skaczm...@gmail.com is not mine. I 
> thus feel I need to present a dissenting view.
>
> Unless very big, or editing the current tiddler incorrectly or with too 
> much occurring on the screen at once my single file wikis are almost never 
> "laggy", in every case there are options to reduce such lag. This can be 
> helped with large wikis on servers if using special features such as 
> external media and skinny tiddlers but many of the same techniques used on 
> single file wikis, can be needed even on a server wiki, due to the way it 
> is loaded into browser memory. Keep in mind skinny tiddlers are like 
> searchwikis indexes, you can not necessarily search there content unless 
> they are loaded.
>
> Victor specifically,
>
> If you want to search the full tiddlers text and other fields from inside 
> a wiki ultimately you actually want these tiddlers inside your wiki. 
> Depending on the way you will maintain your data a lot can still be done. 
> As I suggested in my previous relies a lot of this is what is you work flow 
> and wiki interchange, why are you searching, what kind of thing are you 
> looking for and what do you want to do with it when you find it? As I 
> suggested if you are looking for details within a bibliography entry go to 
> that dedicated wiki. 
>
> Typically Bibliographies and Glossaries and other kinds of cumulative 
> reference information shared through out an organisation are independent 
> resources and the title is the key to that reference and find for 
> integration into other solutions. Thus the search wikis indexing of titles 
> is sufficient, if you need deeper research go to the reference wiki, then 
> have a method to transfer your results to the current wiki if needed.
>
> Alternatively you could publish your bibliography as a plugin tiddler and 
> drop it on your working wiki, or via a library.
>
> Regards
> Tones 
>
>
> On Monday, 9 November 2020 07:01:15 UTC+11, skaczm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> @Victor Dorneanu, buddy, if I may suggest you something, I think it is 
>> way better to go for "server" solution of tiddlty wiki like TW5-Bob 
>>  or node js than single file wiki. I 
>> used single file approach when I started with Tiddly Wiki and it gets laggy 
>> very quick and you are not able to get anything from this wiki if enything 
>> breaks. In "server approach" each tiddler is a separate file, each image is 
>> kept in its original, file form instead of hard coding it. You have much 
>> more 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[TW Tones]

Victor/skaczm...@gmail.com,

With respect this experience of yours skaczm...@gmail.com is not mine. I 
thus feel I need to present a dissenting view.

Unless very big, or editing the current tiddler incorrectly or with too 
much occurring on the screen at once my single file wikis are almost never 
"laggy", in every case there are options to reduce such lag. This can be 
helped with large wikis on servers if using special features such as 
external media and skinny tiddlers but many of the same techniques used on 
single file wikis, can be needed even on a server wiki, due to the way it 
is loaded into browser memory. Keep in mind skinny tiddlers are like 
searchwikis indexes, you can not necessarily search there content unless 
they are loaded.

Victor specifically,

If you want to search the full tiddlers text and other fields from inside a 
wiki ultimately you actually want these tiddlers inside your wiki. 
Depending on the way you will maintain your data a lot can still be done. 
As I suggested in my previous relies a lot of this is what is you work flow 
and wiki interchange, why are you searching, what kind of thing are you 
looking for and what do you want to do with it when you find it? As I 
suggested if you are looking for details within a bibliography entry go to 
that dedicated wiki. 

Typically Bibliographies and Glossaries and other kinds of cumulative 
reference information shared through out an organisation are independent 
resources and the title is the key to that reference and find for 
integration into other solutions. Thus the search wikis indexing of titles 
is sufficient, if you need deeper research go to the reference wiki, then 
have a method to transfer your results to the current wiki if needed.

Alternatively you could publish your bibliography as a plugin tiddler and 
drop it on your working wiki, or via a library.

Regards
Tones 


On Monday, 9 November 2020 07:01:15 UTC+11, skaczm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> @Victor Dorneanu, buddy, if I may suggest you something, I think it is 
> way better to go for "server" solution of tiddlty wiki like TW5-Bob 
>  or node js than single file wiki. I 
> used single file approach when I started with Tiddly Wiki and it gets laggy 
> very quick and you are not able to get anything from this wiki if enything 
> breaks. In "server approach" each tiddler is a separate file, each image is 
> kept in its original, file form instead of hard coding it. You have much 
> more possibilities to remediate in case of trouble.
>
> niedziela, 8 listopada 2020 o 20:53:29 UTC+1 skaczm...@gmail.com 
> napisał(a):
>
>> I did tests of TW-Searchwikis  
>> plugin today and it seems to me like it is only looking for text in title 
>> and tags, not in the body of tiddler. Please tell me if it is possible to 
>> make it look for searched text also in the body of tiddler, because without 
>> that it is useless for me, because I decided to use generic and auto 
>> incremented names of tiddlers in order to save time and confusion of coming 
>> up with unique names.
>>
>> piątek, 6 listopada 2020 o 09:16:28 UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a):
>>
>>> Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this 
>>> *might 
>>> *work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search 
>>> across multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a 
>>> method how to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way. 
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input. 
>>>
>>> Victor 
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Victor,

 Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki)  can contain 
 the search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of 
 each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on 
 your on your  *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the 
 bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a 
 search of the *zettelkasten wiki*
 On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more 
 references to the same bibliographic link.

 We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to 
 develop the appropriate practice.

 Regards
 Tones


 On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Victor,
>
> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
> Bibliography. 
>
> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
> tiddlers.
>
> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
> back link is 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

@Victor Dorneanu, buddy, if I may suggest you something, I think it is way 
better to go for "server" solution of tiddlty wiki like TW5-Bob 
 or node js than single file wiki. I 
used single file approach when I started with Tiddly Wiki and it gets laggy 
very quick and you are not able to get anything from this wiki if enything 
breaks. In "server approach" each tiddler is a separate file, each image is 
kept in its original, file form instead of hard coding it. You have much 
more possibilities to remediate in case of trouble.

niedziela, 8 listopada 2020 o 20:53:29 UTC+1 skaczm...@gmail.com napisał(a):

> I did tests of TW-Searchwikis  
> plugin today and it seems to me like it is only looking for text in title 
> and tags, not in the body of tiddler. Please tell me if it is possible to 
> make it look for searched text also in the body of tiddler, because without 
> that it is useless for me, because I decided to use generic and auto 
> incremented names of tiddlers in order to save time and confusion of coming 
> up with unique names.
>
> piątek, 6 listopada 2020 o 09:16:28 UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a):
>
>> Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this 
>> *might 
>> *work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search 
>> across multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a 
>> method how to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way. 
>>
>> Thanks for your input. 
>>
>> Victor 
>>
>> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Victor,
>>>
>>> Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki)  can contain the 
>>> search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of 
>>> each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on 
>>> your on your  *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the 
>>> bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a 
>>> search of the *zettelkasten wiki*
>>> On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more 
>>> references to the same bibliographic link.
>>>
>>> We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to 
>>> develop the appropriate practice.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:

 Victor,

 Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
 Bibliography. 

 What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
 tiddlers.

 Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
 entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
 using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
 to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
 back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic 
 entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The 
 backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to 
 the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. 

 A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of 
 "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie 
 wikitext, 
 widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most 
 intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - 
 yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many 
 problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building 
 tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" 
 or self referential.

 I hope this explains what I have said a little better.

 Regards
 Tones

 On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 
>
> > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, 
> you can have the search also look for the use of that term in 
> *zettelkasten*
>
> But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and 
> *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, 
> right? 
>
> > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could 
> package and install it on any wiki.
>
> What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I 
> keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. 
>
> To give you a more precise example: 
>
>- I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book 
>
> 
>   - There I have a link to GTD 
>    which is 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

I did tests of TW-Searchwikis  
plugin today and it seems to me like it is only looking for text in title 
and tags, not in the body of tiddler. Please tell me if it is possible to 
make it look for searched text also in the body of tiddler, because without 
that it is useless for me, because I decided to use generic and auto 
incremented names of tiddlers in order to save time and confusion of coming 
up with unique names.

piątek, 6 listopada 2020 o 09:16:28 UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a):

> Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this *might 
> *work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search 
> across multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a 
> method how to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way. 
>
> Thanks for your input. 
>
> Victor 
>
> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Victor,
>>
>> Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki)  can contain the 
>> search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of 
>> each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on 
>> your on your  *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the 
>> bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a 
>> search of the *zettelkasten wiki*
>> On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more 
>> references to the same bibliographic link.
>>
>> We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to 
>> develop the appropriate practice.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>> Victor,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
>>> Bibliography. 
>>>
>>> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
>>> tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
>>> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
>>> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
>>> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
>>> back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic 
>>> entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The 
>>> backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to 
>>> the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. 
>>>
>>> A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of 
>>> "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie wikitext, 
>>> widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most 
>>> intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - 
>>> yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many 
>>> problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building 
>>> tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" 
>>> or self referential.
>>>
>>> I hope this explains what I have said a little better.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:

 I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 

 > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, 
 you can have the search also look for the use of that term in 
 *zettelkasten*

 But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and 
 *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, 
 right? 

 > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could 
 package and install it on any wiki.

 What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I 
 keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. 

 To give you a more precise example: 

- I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book 

 
   - There I have a link to GTD 
    which is part of the 
   *zettelkasten*
   - In the GTD tiddler  
   itself I have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks 
   @bimlas for that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in 
   *bibliography*
   - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting 
   Things Done - Note 3 
   
 ) 
   in the *zettelkasten* wiki
  - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things 
  Done - Note 3 
  
  
  which tiddlers in *zettelkasten 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[Victor Dorneanu]

Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this *might 
*work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search across 
multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a method how 
to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way. 

Thanks for your input. 

Victor 

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Victor,
>
> Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki)  can contain the 
> search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of 
> each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on 
> your on your  *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the 
> bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a 
> search of the *zettelkasten wiki*
> On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more references 
> to the same bibliographic link.
>
> We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to 
> develop the appropriate practice.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>>
>> Victor,
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
>> Bibliography. 
>>
>> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
>> tiddlers.
>>
>> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
>> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
>> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
>> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
>> back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic 
>> entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The 
>> backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to 
>> the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. 
>>
>> A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of 
>> "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie wikitext, 
>> widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most 
>> intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - 
>> yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many 
>> problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building 
>> tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" 
>> or self referential.
>>
>> I hope this explains what I have said a little better.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 
>>>
>>> > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, 
>>> you can have the search also look for the use of that term in 
>>> *zettelkasten*
>>>
>>> But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and 
>>> *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, 
>>> right? 
>>>
>>> > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could package 
>>> and install it on any wiki.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I 
>>> keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. 
>>>
>>> To give you a more precise example: 
>>>
>>>- I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book 
>>>
>>> 
>>>   - There I have a link to GTD  
>>>   which is part of the *zettelkasten*
>>>   - In the GTD tiddler  itself 
>>>   I have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks @bimlas 
>>>   for that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in 
>>>   *bibliography*
>>>   - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting 
>>>   Things Done - Note 3 
>>>   
>>> ) 
>>>   in the *zettelkasten* wiki
>>>  - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things Done 
>>>  - Note 3 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  which tiddlers in *zettelkasten *(and not only) are pointing 
>>>  to it  
>>>  
>>>
>>> I hope this helps. 
>>>
>>> Victor 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:02:59 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Victor,

 At the same time as you search for a Glossary item, in your 
 *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, you can have the search also look for the 
 use of that term in *zettelkasten .* that is effectively what the 
 backlinks would be. If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big 
 you could package and install it on any wiki. Drag and drop update. If you 
 could go further you copuld let you add glossary items in any wiki but 
 have 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[TW Tones]

Victor,

Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki)  can contain the 
search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of 
each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on 
your on your  *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the 
bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a 
search of the *zettelkasten wiki*
On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more references 
to the same bibliographic link.

We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to develop 
the appropriate practice.

Regards
Tones

On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Victor,
>
> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
> Bibliography. 
>
> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
> tiddlers.
>
> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
> back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic 
> entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The 
> backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to 
> the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. 
>
> A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of 
> "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie wikitext, 
> widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most 
> intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - 
> yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many 
> problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building 
> tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" 
> or self referential.
>
> I hope this explains what I have said a little better.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 
>>
>> > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, 
>> you can have the search also look for the use of that term in 
>> *zettelkasten*
>>
>> But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and 
>> *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, right? 
>>
>> > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could package 
>> and install it on any wiki.
>>
>> What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I 
>> keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. 
>>
>> To give you a more precise example: 
>>
>>- I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book 
>>
>> 
>>   - There I have a link to GTD  
>>   which is part of the *zettelkasten*
>>   - In the GTD tiddler  itself 
>>   I have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks @bimlas for 
>>   that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in *bibliography*
>>   - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting 
>>   Things Done - Note 3 
>>   
>> ) 
>>   in the *zettelkasten* wiki
>>  - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things Done 
>>  - Note 3 
>>  
>>  
>>  which tiddlers in *zettelkasten *(and not only) are pointing to 
>>  it  
>>  
>>
>> I hope this helps. 
>>
>> Victor 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:02:59 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Victor,
>>>
>>> At the same time as you search for a Glossary item, in your 
>>> *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, you can have the search also look for the 
>>> use of that term in *zettelkasten .* that is effectively what the 
>>> backlinks would be. If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big 
>>> you could package and install it on any wiki. Drag and drop update. If you 
>>> could go further you copuld let you add glossary items in any wiki but have 
>>> a tool to export additions and include them in the central wiki.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:40:48 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:

 Hi everybody,

 somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First of 
 all thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and I 
 think that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely the 
 perfect tool. 

 As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more 
 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[TW Tones]

Victor,

Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
Bibliography. 

What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
tiddlers.

Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic 
entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The 
backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to 
the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. 

A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of 
"soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie wikitext, 
widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most 
intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - 
yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many 
problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building 
tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" 
or self referential.

I hope this explains what I have said a little better.

Regards
Tones

On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 
>
> > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, 
> you can have the search also look for the use of that term in 
> *zettelkasten*
>
> But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and 
> *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, right? 
>
> > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could package 
> and install it on any wiki.
>
> What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I 
> keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. 
>
> To give you a more precise example: 
>
>- I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book 
>
> 
>   - There I have a link to GTD  
>   which is part of the *zettelkasten*
>   - In the GTD tiddler  itself I 
>   have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks @bimlas for 
>   that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in *bibliography*
>   - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting 
>   Things Done - Note 3 
>   ) 
>   in the *zettelkasten* wiki
>  - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things Done - 
>  Note 3 
>  
>  
>  which tiddlers in *zettelkasten *(and not only) are pointing to 
>  it  
>  
>
> I hope this helps. 
>
> Victor 
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:02:59 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Victor,
>>
>> At the same time as you search for a Glossary item, in your 
>> *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, you can have the search also look for the use 
>> of that term in *zettelkasten .* that is effectively what the backlinks 
>> would be. If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could 
>> package and install it on any wiki. Drag and drop update. If you could go 
>> further you copuld let you add glossary items in any wiki but have a tool 
>> to export additions and include them in the central wiki.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:40:48 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First of 
>>> all thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and I 
>>> think that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely the 
>>> perfect tool. 
>>>
>>> As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more 
>>> comprehensive explanation:
>>>
>>>
>>>- the reason why I've splitted "concerns"/domains/contexts in 
>>>multiple wikis is because of the size: I don't want to have a big 
>>> bloated 
>>>wiki, instead I want to have multiple ones 
>>>- one for the zettelkasten 
>>>   - one for the bibliography
>>>   - individual ones for several domains like IT security, 
>>>   nutrition, sports etc. 
>>>   - one for collection of bookmarks
>>>   - etc.
>>>- now when I create links e.g. from the *zettelkasten* to the 
>>>*bibliography* wiki, I also need to specify the location of the wiki 
>>>as well (like I've described at the beginning of this thread)
>>>   - imagine after some years you'll have hundreds of links from one 
>>>   wiki to another
>>>   - let's say the 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[David Gifford]

1. Some kind of search and replace would probably be the fastest way to 
update links from linking to "bib.html" to linking to "bibliography.html". 
See 
https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#z=qvnb1tyGX-Zfd0n7kl_Moj-d=replace
 
for several tools. Obviously, thinking through your file naming conventions 
carefully beforehand will save you headaches later.

2. Showing a list of tiddlers in another file that link to a tiddler in the 
present file, as far as I know, is impossible.

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 1:40:48 AM UTC-6 Victor Dorneanu wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First of all 
> thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and I think 
> that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely the perfect 
> tool. 
>
> As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more 
> comprehensive explanation:
>
>
>- the reason why I've splitted "concerns"/domains/contexts in multiple 
>wikis is because of the size: I don't want to have a big bloated wiki, 
>instead I want to have multiple ones 
>- one for the zettelkasten 
>   - one for the bibliography
>   - individual ones for several domains like IT security, nutrition, 
>   sports etc. 
>   - one for collection of bookmarks
>   - etc.
>- now when I create links e.g. from the *zettelkasten* to the 
>*bibliography* wiki, I also need to specify the location of the wiki 
>as well (like I've described at the beginning of this thread)
>   - imagine after some years you'll have hundreds of links from one 
>   wiki to another
>   - let's say the location of one wiki changes (bib.html changes to 
>   bibliography.html) 
>   - then I'll have to update the links to reflect the new wiki 
>   location (bibliography.html)
>   - and that's what I mean by "elegant"
>  - regardless of the method I use to interlink between multiple 
>  wikis there should be a way to update multiple links easily 
>  - and this solution should also work in 15 years :D 
>   - one thing that is not solved yet (at least I haven't found a 
>solution):
>   - let's stick to the *zettelkasten* -> *bibliography* example (you 
>   have several tiddlers in *zettelkasten* containing links to 
>   tiddlers in *bibliography*)
>   - inserting links in the *zettelkasten* to some tiddlers in the 
>   *bibliography* wiki is easy (I still use the macro mentioned before)
>   - but how do I show *backlinks* in the *bibliography* wiki?
>  - more specific: how can I show which tiddlers in the 
>  *zettelkasten* wiki point to _this_ specific tiddler in the 
>  *bibliography* wiki?
>  
> I hope my post is not that confusing. I'm looking forward to your comments 
> and suggestions. 
>
> Victor 
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:05:57 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Victor,
>>
>> I will backup David's suggestion of Mohammad's searchWikis because you 
>> can link to specific tiddler in another wiki but they key is what you want 
>> to achieve. 
>>
>> The first rule is you can do anything with links you can on any website, 
>> use permalinks and permaviews, drag and drop between wikis, iframe one in 
>> another and create link that open in the the same target windows/tab. Bob 
>> or bobexe is critical if you may open the same wiki for edit in different 
>> tabs, windows or browsers.
>>
>> Copy to clipboard is a way to take a search string from one wiki to 
>> another and a lot more can be done.
>>
>> I recently responded to someone else's questions on the same subject and 
>> someone else was talking about capturing bookmarks with tiddlywiki which 
>> can include tiddlywiki itself.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 20:29:22 UTC+10, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd 
>>> like to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
>>> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>>>
>>> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>>>  which uses several macros to 
>>> have something like:
>>>
>>> <<. docs Documentation>>
>>>
>>> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
>>> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location 
>>> of the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>>>
>>> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>>>  where I have:
>>>
>>> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
>>> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
>>> articles etc.)
>>>
>>> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>>>
>>> KR, 
>>> Victor 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[Victor Dorneanu]

I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 

> as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, you 
can have the search also look for the use of that term in *zettelkasten*

But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and 
*bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, right? 

> If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could package 
and install it on any wiki.

What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I keep 
track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. 

To give you a more precise example: 

   - I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book 
   

  - There I have a link to GTD  
  which is part of the *zettelkasten*
  - In the GTD tiddler  itself I 
  have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks @bimlas for 
  that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in *bibliography*
  - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting Things 
  Done - Note 3 
  ) 
  in the *zettelkasten* wiki
 - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things Done - 
 Note 3 
  
 which tiddlers in *zettelkasten *(and not only) are pointing to 
 it  
 

I hope this helps. 

Victor 

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:02:59 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Victor,
>
> At the same time as you search for a Glossary item, in your 
> *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, you can have the search also look for the use 
> of that term in *zettelkasten .* that is effectively what the backlinks 
> would be. If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could 
> package and install it on any wiki. Drag and drop update. If you could go 
> further you copuld let you add glossary items in any wiki but have a tool 
> to export additions and include them in the central wiki.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:40:48 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First of 
>> all thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and I 
>> think that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely the 
>> perfect tool. 
>>
>> As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more 
>> comprehensive explanation:
>>
>>
>>- the reason why I've splitted "concerns"/domains/contexts in 
>>multiple wikis is because of the size: I don't want to have a big bloated 
>>wiki, instead I want to have multiple ones 
>>- one for the zettelkasten 
>>   - one for the bibliography
>>   - individual ones for several domains like IT security, nutrition, 
>>   sports etc. 
>>   - one for collection of bookmarks
>>   - etc.
>>- now when I create links e.g. from the *zettelkasten* to the 
>>*bibliography* wiki, I also need to specify the location of the wiki 
>>as well (like I've described at the beginning of this thread)
>>   - imagine after some years you'll have hundreds of links from one 
>>   wiki to another
>>   - let's say the location of one wiki changes (bib.html changes to 
>>   bibliography.html) 
>>   - then I'll have to update the links to reflect the new wiki 
>>   location (bibliography.html)
>>   - and that's what I mean by "elegant"
>>  - regardless of the method I use to interlink between multiple 
>>  wikis there should be a way to update multiple links easily 
>>  - and this solution should also work in 15 years :D 
>>   - one thing that is not solved yet (at least I haven't found a 
>>solution):
>>   - let's stick to the *zettelkasten* -> *bibliography* example (you 
>>   have several tiddlers in *zettelkasten* containing links to 
>>   tiddlers in *bibliography*)
>>   - inserting links in the *zettelkasten* to some tiddlers in the 
>>   *bibliography* wiki is easy (I still use the macro mentioned 
>>   before)
>>   - but how do I show *backlinks* in the *bibliography* wiki?
>>  - more specific: how can I show which tiddlers in the 
>>  *zettelkasten* wiki point to _this_ specific tiddler in the 
>>  *bibliography* wiki?
>>  
>> I hope my post is not that confusing. I'm looking forward to your 
>> comments and suggestions. 
>>
>> Victor 
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:05:57 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Victor,
>>>
>>> I will backup David's suggestion of Mohammad's searchWikis because you 
>>> can link to specific tiddler in another wiki but they key is what you want 
>>> to achieve. 
>>>
>>> The first rule is you can do 

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[TW Tones]

Victor,

At the same time as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten 
*tiddlywiki, 
you can have the search also look for the use of that term in *zettelkasten 
.* that is effectively what the backlinks would be. If you kept a glossary 
centrally and its not too big you could package and install it on any wiki. 
Drag and drop update. If you could go further you copuld let you add 
glossary items in any wiki but have a tool to export additions and include 
them in the central wiki.

Regards
Tones

On Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:40:48 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First of all 
> thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and I think 
> that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely the perfect 
> tool. 
>
> As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more 
> comprehensive explanation:
>
>
>- the reason why I've splitted "concerns"/domains/contexts in multiple 
>wikis is because of the size: I don't want to have a big bloated wiki, 
>instead I want to have multiple ones 
>- one for the zettelkasten 
>   - one for the bibliography
>   - individual ones for several domains like IT security, nutrition, 
>   sports etc. 
>   - one for collection of bookmarks
>   - etc.
>- now when I create links e.g. from the *zettelkasten* to the 
>*bibliography* wiki, I also need to specify the location of the wiki 
>as well (like I've described at the beginning of this thread)
>   - imagine after some years you'll have hundreds of links from one 
>   wiki to another
>   - let's say the location of one wiki changes (bib.html changes to 
>   bibliography.html) 
>   - then I'll have to update the links to reflect the new wiki 
>   location (bibliography.html)
>   - and that's what I mean by "elegant"
>  - regardless of the method I use to interlink between multiple 
>  wikis there should be a way to update multiple links easily 
>  - and this solution should also work in 15 years :D 
>   - one thing that is not solved yet (at least I haven't found a 
>solution):
>   - let's stick to the *zettelkasten* -> *bibliography* example (you 
>   have several tiddlers in *zettelkasten* containing links to 
>   tiddlers in *bibliography*)
>   - inserting links in the *zettelkasten* to some tiddlers in the 
>   *bibliography* wiki is easy (I still use the macro mentioned before)
>   - but how do I show *backlinks* in the *bibliography* wiki?
>  - more specific: how can I show which tiddlers in the 
>  *zettelkasten* wiki point to _this_ specific tiddler in the 
>  *bibliography* wiki?
>  
> I hope my post is not that confusing. I'm looking forward to your comments 
> and suggestions. 
>
> Victor 
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:05:57 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Victor,
>>
>> I will backup David's suggestion of Mohammad's searchWikis because you 
>> can link to specific tiddler in another wiki but they key is what you want 
>> to achieve. 
>>
>> The first rule is you can do anything with links you can on any website, 
>> use permalinks and permaviews, drag and drop between wikis, iframe one in 
>> another and create link that open in the the same target windows/tab. Bob 
>> or bobexe is critical if you may open the same wiki for edit in different 
>> tabs, windows or browsers.
>>
>> Copy to clipboard is a way to take a search string from one wiki to 
>> another and a lot more can be done.
>>
>> I recently responded to someone else's questions on the same subject and 
>> someone else was talking about capturing bookmarks with tiddlywiki which 
>> can include tiddlywiki itself.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 20:29:22 UTC+10, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd 
>>> like to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
>>> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>>>
>>> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>>>  which uses several macros to 
>>> have something like:
>>>
>>> <<. docs Documentation>>
>>>
>>> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
>>> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location 
>>> of the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>>>
>>> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>>>  where I have:
>>>
>>> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
>>> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
>>> articles etc.)
>>>
>>> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>>>
>>> KR, 
>>> Victor 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[Victor Dorneanu]

Hi everybody,

somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First of all 
thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and I think 
that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely the perfect 
tool. 

As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more comprehensive 
explanation:


   - the reason why I've splitted "concerns"/domains/contexts in multiple 
   wikis is because of the size: I don't want to have a big bloated wiki, 
   instead I want to have multiple ones 
   - one for the zettelkasten 
  - one for the bibliography
  - individual ones for several domains like IT security, nutrition, 
  sports etc. 
  - one for collection of bookmarks
  - etc.
   - now when I create links e.g. from the *zettelkasten* to the 
   *bibliography* wiki, I also need to specify the location of the wiki as 
   well (like I've described at the beginning of this thread)
  - imagine after some years you'll have hundreds of links from one 
  wiki to another
  - let's say the location of one wiki changes (bib.html changes to 
  bibliography.html) 
  - then I'll have to update the links to reflect the new wiki location 
  (bibliography.html)
  - and that's what I mean by "elegant"
 - regardless of the method I use to interlink between multiple 
 wikis there should be a way to update multiple links easily 
 - and this solution should also work in 15 years :D 
  - one thing that is not solved yet (at least I haven't found a 
   solution):
  - let's stick to the *zettelkasten* -> *bibliography* example (you 
  have several tiddlers in *zettelkasten* containing links to tiddlers 
  in *bibliography*)
  - inserting links in the *zettelkasten* to some tiddlers in the 
  *bibliography* wiki is easy (I still use the macro mentioned before)
  - but how do I show *backlinks* in the *bibliography* wiki?
 - more specific: how can I show which tiddlers in the 
 *zettelkasten* wiki point to _this_ specific tiddler in the 
 *bibliography* wiki?
 
I hope my post is not that confusing. I'm looking forward to your comments 
and suggestions. 

Victor 
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:05:57 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Victor,
>
> I will backup David's suggestion of Mohammad's searchWikis because you can 
> link to specific tiddler in another wiki but they key is what you want to 
> achieve. 
>
> The first rule is you can do anything with links you can on any website, 
> use permalinks and permaviews, drag and drop between wikis, iframe one in 
> another and create link that open in the the same target windows/tab. Bob 
> or bobexe is critical if you may open the same wiki for edit in different 
> tabs, windows or browsers.
>
> Copy to clipboard is a way to take a search string from one wiki to 
> another and a lot more can be done.
>
> I recently responded to someone else's questions on the same subject and 
> someone else was talking about capturing bookmarks with tiddlywiki which 
> can include tiddlywiki itself.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 20:29:22 UTC+10, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>
>> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd 
>> like to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
>> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>>
>> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>>  which uses several macros to 
>> have something like:
>>
>> <<. docs Documentation>>
>>
>> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
>> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location 
>> of the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>>
>> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>>  where I have:
>>
>> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
>> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
>> articles etc.)
>>
>> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>>
>> KR, 
>> Victor 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[TW Tones]

Victor,

I will backup David's suggestion of Mohammad's searchWikis because you can 
link to specific tiddler in another wiki but they key is what you want to 
achieve. 

The first rule is you can do anything with links you can on any website, 
use permalinks and permaviews, drag and drop between wikis, iframe one in 
another and create link that open in the the same target windows/tab. Bob 
or bobexe is critical if you may open the same wiki for edit in different 
tabs, windows or browsers.

Copy to clipboard is a way to take a search string from one wiki to another 
and a lot more can be done.

I recently responded to someone else's questions on the same subject and 
someone else was talking about capturing bookmarks with tiddlywiki which 
can include tiddlywiki itself.

Regards
Tones

On Sunday, 13 September 2020 20:29:22 UTC+10, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>
> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd like 
> to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>
> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>  which uses several macros to 
> have something like:
>
> <<. docs Documentation>>
>
> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location of 
> the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>
> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>  where I have:
>
> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
> articles etc.)
>
> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>
> KR, 
> Victor 
>

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[David Gifford]

I don't know if it meets your criteria for 'elegant', but try 
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Searchwikis/

In a nutshell, you create indexes in content wikis, transfer the indexes to 
a central index wiki, and it searches the indexes and the links are links 
to the tiddlers in the content wikis.

See an early, modified version of it in action at my Spanish site 
https://giffmex.org/wiki/.  'testamento' is the search term in the busqueda 
tab, and below the search window you can see the results from the indexes 
of numerous files. The links are external links to the tiddlers in other 
files that contain the content.

The only drawback to this is that you need to remember to redo the index 
each time you edit the file, and also add the index tiddler to the central 
file where the search is. Since both of the people posting here are only 
talking about two files total, that makes it easy.

On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 5:29:22 AM UTC-5 Victor Dorneanu wrote:

> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd like 
> to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>
> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>  which uses several macros to 
> have something like:
>
> <<. docs Documentation>>
>
> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location of 
> the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>
> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>  where I have:
>
> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
> articles etc.)
>
> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>
> KR, 
> Victor 
>

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

I want to achieve the same on my Zettelkasten type wiki. I want separate 
wiki just for resources and implement them in other knowledge management 
wiki. 

niedziela, 13 września 2020 o 12:29:22 UTC+2 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a):

> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd like 
> to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>
> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>  which uses several macros to 
> have something like:
>
> <<. docs Documentation>>
>
> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location of 
> the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>
> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>  where I have:
>
> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
> articles etc.)
>
> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>
> KR, 
> Victor 
>

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[tony]

>any "elegant" solution how to create links between tiddlers in different 
wikis.

tl;dr so far ... LocalSearchEngine 
 + 
iframe internal wiki(s) + dragging permalinks (or right click copy link 
address)

I've been ruminating over the same thing as performance has been degrading 
as my main wiki gets bloated in tiddler quantity (~3.5K count)

My issue is overloading with all tiddlers in one wiki; in my case: planning 
scheduling tiddlers (stuff i do) with note tiddlers (stuff i reference) + 
playing plugins

FWIW My even more lazy inelegant dirtier solution :-) 

I've been using Duarte's Local Search Engine 
 (LSE) 
method + InnerWiki + dragging permalinks 
 between wikis

   - Under chrome://settings/searchEngines my LSE is searchengine: 
   wikiserver; keyword: wiki; url:
   http://localhost:8080/myfolder/wiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]
   - Easy and simple as: Ctrl-l to get address bar focus + wiki + searchterm
   - And/or drag and drop from InnerWiki [1]

The workflow reduced alot of cognitive friction when the wikis are housed 
in 1 folder as in TiddlyServer  
and LSEs can be assigned per wiki(s).  And really has changed the way i 
view wiki state with wiki.html as a more temporary pool collection versus a 
more permanent document/database/wiki/thing
I look forward to more simple and creative solutions from others! But for 
me, the hard part is semantic chunking of wikis which is not a technical 
issue :-\

Best,
tony

[1] Host your inner wiki (latest toy)
   
   - i dont use the InnerWikiPlugin 
     as it is over my 
   lazy head and too complicated for my setup, YMMV 
   - Create a new tiddler with the name of your wiki, say KnowledgeBase
   - add an iframe in the tiddler body text 
   - where src = the path to you wiki, KnowledgeBase.html
   - The rendered tiddler will have the InnerWiki and right-click on most 
   OS will allow for permalink copy to paste in the HostWiki, both absolute 
   and relative linking works or just drag and drop with Optionally display 
   tiddler titles as links 
    = yes
   - Formal clean up can come later...
   - absolute link: 
   
[ext[link|http://localhost:8080/KnowledgeBase.html#post%20solution%20for%20cross%20links]
   - relative link: 
   [ext[link|./KnowledgeBase.html#post%20solution%20for%20cross%20links]]
   - usually I just work and save in the InnerWiki directly 
   - What's crazy is the InnerWiki operates independently with direct 
   access but can open directly in another tab and i drag and drop 
   TiddlerLinks between the OuterWiki host and InnerWiki

On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 3:29:22 AM UTC-7 Victor Dorneanu wrote:

> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd like 
> to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>
> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>  which uses several macros to 
> have something like:
>
> <<. docs Documentation>>
>
> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location of 
> the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>
> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>  where I have:
>
> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
> articles etc.)
>
> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>
> KR, 
> Victor 
>

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