[tw] Re: To Jeremy Ruston - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...

2016-04-27 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Yes... I was wondering about that too.

It's like running into a crowded theater and yelling, "Does anyone know 
where the fire extinguisher is?"

Mark

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 7:14:18 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> What conversations are you referring to? I haven't seen anyone saying that 
> we should move toward a server model for anything. 

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

2016-04-27 Thread Jan

Hi Mat,
thanks for this interesting solution, it seems that here all snapshots 
are saved in one tiddler.
I need to store each story in a single Tiddler. This is necessary 
because I have to add metadata to the stories and because I want to be 
able to exchange these stories with other users of the Project.

Is it possible to change the code

*-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler, 
(SaveStory)***

\define saveSnapshot()
<$button
set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapText)$"
setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>
{{$:/core/images/done-button}}
Save
\end

*-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while closing 
all others.(OpenStory)*


\define loadSnapshot()
<$button
set="$:/StoryList!!list"
setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snapSelect)$}}>
{{$:/core/images/right-arrow}}
Load
\end

-Jan



Am 27.04.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Mat:

Maybe matabeles/tobias'  thing will help?

http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot

<:-)


On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:07:48 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hello,
I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I
would need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools.
What I would need most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows
*-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new
Tiddler, and (SaveStory)**
-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler
while closing all others. (OpenStory)*
I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.

Yours Jan

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[tw] Re: TypeError: tree is undefined when using markdown plugin

2016-04-27 Thread BJ
Good stuff, you have uncovered a bug in the navigator widget. (it initiates 
the creation/editing of tiddlers) When you create a new tiddler by editing 
the 'phantom' tiddler (shown as 'missing' in the story) the navigator 
assumes that the tiddler already exists. It should check and if it does not 
exist initialise the 'draft of' tiddler with an empty string.

What you see is the result of the preview with a undefined content - the 
'undefined' is given to the markdown extension, which then fails.

If you like you can report it as a bug on github (if you have a github 
account), otherwise I will open a bug.

All the best

BJ


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>
> Hi, BJ. Thanks for the interest.
>
>
>- Version 5.1.11
>- Firefox 45.0.2, though it also appears with TiddlyDesktop
>- I installed the plugin from the Official TiddlyWiki Plugin Library 
>(ControlPanel / Plugins / Get more plugins)
>
> I can reproduce and workaround the bug with the following steps in the 
> browser:
>
>- Create new Tiddler by clicking on link to nonexistent Tiddler
>- Set type to markdown
>- Error appears
>- Set type to TiddlyWiki 5
>- Save Tiddler (Wiki also saves at this point)
>- Edit Tiddler
>- Set type to markdown
>- Error appears
>- Cancel
>- Close window (just the window, not the whole browser)
>- Re-open window 
>- Re-load TW file from bookmark
>- Edit Tiddler
>- Set type to markdown 
>- Error does _not_ appear
>- Continue editing in markdown
>
> [EDIT] - I was just going through these steps again, and it appears to be 
> even easier. The error only appears if there is no text in the edit window. 
> If I have text there (anything at all), it allows me to set the type to 
> markdown without error. I've been setting the type first, so that when I 
> start typing, the preview window shows the content correctly. 
>
>
> Please let me know what else I can do to help (record video, try various 
> things, etc). I'm a sysadmin with 20y experience mucking about with stuff, 
> so if you need me to edit JS in the console or enable debugging or 
> anything, I'm happy to do so. Just send me instructions.
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 8:22:57 AM UTC-3, BJ wrote:
>>
>> Hi Adrian,
>> I would like to reproduce this problem and need some info -
>> what version of tiddlywiki is this? (the version is displayed in the info 
>> tab of the control panel - got to by click the 'cog' icon on the right - or 
>> alternatively place <> in a tiddler) 
>> what browser (and version) are you usings
>> where did you get the markdown plugin from?
>>
>> cheers
>> BJ 
>>
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[tw] Documentation Inconsistences in TiddlyWiki - My intended roadmap

2016-04-27 Thread Pau Deluca
As a technical translator and writer, one of the biggest issues I encounter 
-besides the obvious technical difficulties- is the quality and consistency 
of the original texts and the related technical info. 

For example: writing a workshop manual for a machine based on technical 
data in english provided by a japanese engineer is a constant challenge, as 
japanese engineers normally don't seem to like using prepositions in their 
phrases. So, it's only after some engineer-harassment how the original 
"port emergency generator red terminal contact box interface" gets properly 
understood (that's why I'm so expensive) and written down as "interface, in 
the contact box, for the red terminal coming from the port emergency 
generator"...  You get my point. 

One usual comment about software documentation -and TW5 is not an 
exception- is that its documentation is not easy to understand by 
unfamiliar users.

More as a to-do list for my self than in the spirit of controversy, I'm 
writing down the issues I find in the original TW documentation while 
porting it to the spanish edition, in order to gradually and recursively 
cope with them.

I will therefore focus on the spanish edition, refraining any other 
contribution until the spanish version is up and running and I get a full 
documentation snag-list to work effectively on.

My roadmap regarding TW5 documentation ideally looks like this:

   - Direct translation into spanish of the documents (done by half by now, 
   approx.)
   - Recursively adapt terms, examples and references (e.g., equivalences 
  in spanish for the Wikipedia links) (Done by one third now)
   - Systematise original TW5 documentation.
  - Replacement of direct formats by style macros in the following 
  cases (and the tasks related):
  - Direct formats --- e.g. "this is direct format" → <<.word "this is 
 a style macro">> The macro only affects the graphical rendering.
 - Defined concepts --- e.g. this is an emphasised ''concept'' → 
 this is a <<.def concept>> The macro retrieves the concept from a 
glossary 
 and renders it consistently.
 - TW components --- e.g. the ''Save'' button {{
 $:/core/images/save-button 
 }} → 
 the <<.button save-wiki>>
 - Anything else that needs to be consistently referred and 
 rendered because of importance, frequence or risk-of-error (e.g. 
tiddler 
 tag vs tag tiddler), that both the writer and the reader could easily 
be 
 led into mistake.
  - Filling, Re-linking and reformulating missing tiddlers
  - Gradual onion-rewrite of the current documentation in levels, in 
  accordance with:
 - User level definitions (e.g. beginner: average home/office user 
 with some internet experience. No troubleshooting abilities, no coding 
 experience...)
 - Usage level definitions (e.g. everyday use: create & delete 
 tiddlers. Minor interface tweaking, plugin import, no code hacking)
 - text function definitions (read-only, read-and-execute, 
 translate...)
  - Gradual revision of examples, external references...
  - Gradual writing of the missing documentation due to:
 - Release updates
 - Feature upgrades
 - solved issues...etc
  - Cascade the documentation into the different editions, 
  languages...etc
  
This is my intention, at least. I hope it may be useful. 


Yours,

Pau.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Updated KaTeX plugin - align, matrix

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Matt

> I just made an update to the KaTeX plugin (modified the katex.min.css and 
> katex.min.js).
> It can now take aligned and matrix environments (hard work of gagern in the 
> KaTeX developers group). 

Is this a forked version of KaTeX? Or a later version than is currently 
integrated with TiddlyWiki?

The upcoming version 5.1.12 includes KaTeX v0.6.0.

http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Just thought I'd share it (in an empty tiddlywiki) here, if anyone 
> wants/needs it. 
> 
> Matt
> 
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Re: [tw] To Jeremy Rushton - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Josiah is making a subtle, and useful, point in relation to some of the remarks 
I’ve made in the past.

Those remarks were about the way that TiddlyWiki has a central duality: it 
exists both in its standalone HTML file form, and as a much more traditional 
Node.js server application. Both aspects of TiddlyWiki are important; in 
particular, the Node.js configuration is used to build the standalone 
configuration in the first place.

The concerns that I have expressed are about the tension between developing and 
promoting the standalone features that make TiddlyWiki unique versus the 
server-based features that (could) make TiddlyWiki much more familiar to a 
general audience.

I interpreted Josiah’s remarks as being a vote of support for continuing to 
emphasise the standalone configuration, and thus the unique use cases that can 
only be tackled by TiddlyWiki. He’s echoing a thought we’ve discussed before: 
that most of the users of TiddlyWiki are invisible, because it is used 
privately, and so posting here makes good sense.

Josiah’s suggesting of making it easier to post to social networks is one of 
the core ideas explored by the IndieWebCamp community:

https://indiewebcamp.com

I’d agree that such functionality would be useful in TW. I frequently draft 
GitHub issues in TiddlyWiki (as a Markdown tiddler) and then manually copy and 
paste it into GitHub. Direct posting via the API would be pretty useful 
sometimes.

In closing, my personal opinion remains that it is the standalone configuration 
that makes TiddlyWiki special, and that the Node.js configuration exists to 
serve that configuration. I do want to improve the multi-user experience, but 
even there I want to retain the value of the standalone configuration, by 
making it easy to work on updates offline and collaboratively merge them later.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 26 Apr 2016, at 13:30, proge...@assays.tv wrote:
> 
> Ciao Jeremy
> 
> Both here and on the Dev channel I have seen you write about your concerns, 
> in last few days, about taking TW too far towards server dependent systems.
> 
> I TOTALLY AGREE.
> 
> I am one of the silent users of TW. I developed, for my own use, many 
> customized versions. I never publish them. I just use them locally.
> 
> The idea TW step more towards on-line server mediated systems would erase its 
> specialness, IMO.
> 
> The one area where TW might be improved, for me, is being able to POST to 
> social networks more easily. BUT interactive stuff that REQUIRES DEPENDENT 
> linkage to function is not a good idea to have at the front.
> 
> Its not that I, in anyway, think that "scaling up for server services" is bad 
> per se. However, the MINIMALIST MODEL of the ONE-PAGE is, undoubtedly, its 
> brilliance.
> 
> Many thanks for inventing this thing,
> Josiah
> 
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

2016-04-27 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
I'm trying to understand your use case. If users have access to your TW, 
can't they already just use the dropdown list to select and display a 
particular story? How will having the list in a separate tiddler help you 
share metadata?

It almost sounds like you want to share not just a list of tiddlers but the 
contents of the tiddlers as well -- basically an export.

Thanks,
Mark

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mat, 
> thanks for this interesting solution, it seems that here all snapshots are 
> saved in one tiddler.
> I need to store each story in a single Tiddler. This is necessary because 
> I have to add metadata to the stories and because I want to be able to 
> exchange these stories with other users of the Project.
> Is it possible to change the code
>
> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler, 
> (SaveStory)*
>
> \define saveSnapshot()
> <$button
> set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapText)$"
> setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>
> {{$:/core/images/done-button}}
> Save
> \end
>
>
> *-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
> closing all others.(OpenStory)*
>
> \define loadSnapshot() <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" 
> setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snapSelect)$}}> {{$:/core/images/right-arrow}} 
> Load \end
>
> -Jan
>
>
>
> Am 27.04.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Mat:
>
> Maybe matabeles/tobias'  thing will help? 
>
>
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:07:48 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I would 
>> need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools. What I would 
>> need most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows 
>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new 
>> Tiddler, and (SaveStory)*
>> * -to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
>> closing all others. (OpenStory)*
>> I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.
>>
>> Yours Jan 
>>
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[tw] Re: Issues with "nested" button, trying to list all tags and further click them

2016-04-27 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Joc,

I don't know how to solve your 'nested' button, but as a workaround you can 
use a menu item in your top menu to open a tiddler - say ShowTags - which 
transcludes the Tag tab in the sidebar.

Tiddler ShowTags containing:

{{$:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Tags}}

I used that workaround - for tags and extended for system tags as well - in 
my Top toolbar plugin 

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw] Issues with "nested" button, trying to list all tags and further click them

2016-04-27 Thread Joc
Hi. I am fairly new to TiddlyWiki5...

I am using topmenu plugin (http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/) and I would 
like to create a button, which, when clicked, would popup all tags and 
would allow me to click them and select specific tiddler...

I have no issue listing all tags:
<$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]sort[title]]" 
template="$:/plugins/tongerner/topmenu/menu-template" />



But when I try to "nest" them inside button, I have issue. When clicked, 
the list shows, however it is not further clickable (i.e. when clicking on 
certain tag, the button "closes")

<$button popup=<> class="tc-btn-invisible 
tc-untagged-label tc-tag-label">
Tags

<$reveal state=<> type="popup" 
position="below">

<$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]sort[title]]" 
template="$:/plugins/tongerner/topmenu/menu-template" />



What would be the best way to make such (at least two level) "pop-up tree":
- level one, pop-up all tags (on button click)
- level two, pop-up tiddler (on tag click)
...of course, on tiddler click, I'd like to open it :)

Any help would be appreciated,
 Joc.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

2016-04-27 Thread Jan

Hello Mark,
I am working on a collection of excercises for theatre-classes.
Tiddlers describing Exercises are combined for lessons vía stories.
Thus the stories - like shold be tagged to sort them and described which 
aim shall be achieved.
The idea is to work together on this collection and to exchange 
exercises and lessons. It is necessary to import just the new 
storytiddler (and the tiddlers that don't exist yet, but that's another 
task) in order not to make a mess.
If you are interested  the in TWC version here it  is(alas in german): 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/837chmzhxky7wjm/DS%20Arbeitsfassung.html?dl=0
If you type storydemo in the searchfield you see the kind of 
storytiddler I would like to generate. This one was generated 
automatically which collects information from fields in the tiddlers of 
the story...


Thanks for your interest
Jan




Am 27.04.2016 um 22:06 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
I'm trying to understand your use case. If users have access to your 
TW, can't they already just use the dropdown list to select and 
display a particular story? How will having the list in a separate 
tiddler help you share metadata?


It almost sounds like you want to share not just a list of tiddlers 
but the contents of the tiddlers as well -- basically an export.


Thanks,
Mark

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

Hi Mat,
thanks for this interesting solution, it seems that here all
snapshots are saved in one tiddler.
I need to store each story in a single Tiddler. This is necessary
because I have to add metadata to the stories and because I want
to be able to exchange these stories with other users of the Project.
Is it possible to change the code

*-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler, 
(SaveStory)***

\define saveSnapshot()
<$button
set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapText)$"
setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>
{{$:/core/images/done-button}}
Save
\end

*-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
closing all others.(OpenStory)*


\define loadSnapshot()
<$button
set="$:/StoryList!!list"
setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snapSelect)$}}>
{{$:/core/images/right-arrow}}
Load
\end

-Jan



Am 27.04.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Mat:

Maybe matabeles/tobias'  thing will help?


http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot



<:-)


On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:07:48 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hello,
I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately
I would need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s
TiddlyTools. What I would need most is the
OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows
*-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a
new Tiddler, and (SaveStory)**
-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a
Tiddler while closing all others. (OpenStory)*
I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.

Yours Jan

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[tw] Re: Presenting: QuickTid

2016-04-27 Thread Mat
QuickTid updated.

If you too ain't got no time for no clicking around then you GOTTA have 
QuickTid . 

<:-)




On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 6:56:43 PM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Happy to give you a tool I've been fantasizing about for years, not least 
> for "live" note taking situations like lectures.
>
>
> QuickTid  (QT) lets you create 
> individual tiddlers very fast. Features include
>
>- direct edit template access
>- "pin" content to reuse it
>- pre-made, selectable, content
>- silent creation of tiddler
>
>
> It is in beta stage (not plugin-packaged) and tweaks are still needed.
>
> QT is a total remake of FastNewTiddler 
>  (by Jed Carty and me) that caused 
> a little stir about a year ago.
>
> Feedback is very welcome.
>
>
> <:-)
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[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

2016-04-27 Thread Pau Deluca
There are some strange shortcut behaviours of text editors on Firefox 45.0.2

Both bulleted and numbered lists behave weirdly when handled by shortcuts:

Ctrl-L and Ctrl-N work only at the first level. Trying to nest the items by 
composing Ctrl-L or Ctrl-N twice toggles on and off the first item 
indicator (* #)

Combining nested bulleted and numbered items by shortcuts don't work:

Trying to *# by composing Ctrl-L+Ctrl-N inverts the order and inserts a 
space between both indicators (# *)
Trying to #* by composing Ctrl-N+Ctrl-L inverts the order and inserts a 
space between both indicators (* #)

P.-)


El sábado, 23 de abril de 2016, 14:14:24 (UTC+2), Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Now that the editor toolbar work is completed, I’d like to release 
> TiddlyWiki 5.1.12 in the next couple of days. I’d be very grateful for help 
> with testing this release; there are a lot of changes this time around 
> which brings a potential for things to go wrong. 
>
> There’s a prerelease available for testing: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>
> Please give it a try - be cautious about your personal data, and take 
> careful backups. Perform a test upgrade of your wikis and check for any 
> problems: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html 
>
> Please let me know if you spot any issues. This is a great time to submit 
> documentation updates but I’m afraid its too late for any further 
> functional changes. In particular if you have published TiddlyWiki 
> resources that are not currently linked from 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease do please consider submitting a pull 
> request. 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

2016-04-27 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hello,

Technically, this modification of matebele's version does just what you 
want:

\define saveSnapshot()
<$button> Save Snapshot
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$(snapshot)$" $field="text" 
$value={{$:/StoryList!!list}} 
tags="Snapshot">

\end

\define showSnapshot()
<$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" setTo={{$(snap)$}}>Show Snapshot
\end

;Show Snapshot

<$select tiddler="$:/_snapshots" field="
story-name" default='(none)'>
<$list filter="[tag[Snapshot]]" variable="currentIndex">
>><>


<$set name="snap" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
<>


;Save Snapshot

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/_snapshots" 
field="story-name"/>
<$set name="snapshot" value={{$:/_snapshots!!story-name}}>
<>


Be sure to back up before trying this! You will need to create an 
additional tiddler $:/_snapshots. 

But I'm guessing that you won't like the way it works -- all the tiddlers 
are listed one after another in a single line rather than in list. I 
imagine it will take a javáscript macro to be able to make it into a 
standard list.

Mark

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 3:24:46 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello Mark,
> I am working on a collection of excercises for theatre-classes. 
> Tiddlers describing Exercises are combined for lessons vía stories. 
> Thus the stories - like shold be tagged to sort them and described which 
> aim shall be achieved. 
> The idea is to work together on this collection and to exchange exercises 
> and lessons. It is necessary to import just the new storytiddler (and the 
> tiddlers that don't exist yet, but that's another task) in order not to 
> make a mess.
> If you are interested  the in TWC version here it  is(alas in german): 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/837chmzhxky7wjm/DS%20Arbeitsfassung.html?dl=0
> If you type storydemo in the searchfield you see the kind of storytiddler 
> I would like to generate. This one was generated automatically which 
> collects information from fields in the tiddlers of the story...
>
> Thanks for your interest
> Jan
>
>
>
>
> Am 27.04.2016 um 22:06 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> I'm trying to understand your use case. If users have access to your TW, 
> can't they already just use the dropdown list to select and display a 
> particular story? How will having the list in a separate tiddler help you 
> share metadata?
>
> It almost sounds like you want to share not just a list of tiddlers but 
> the contents of the tiddlers as well -- basically an export.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:19:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Mat, 
>> thanks for this interesting solution, it seems that here all snapshots 
>> are saved in one tiddler.
>> I need to store each story in a single Tiddler. This is necessary because 
>> I have to add metadata to the stories and because I want to be able to 
>> exchange these stories with other users of the Project.
>> Is it possible to change the code
>>
>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler, 
>> (SaveStory)*
>>
>> \define saveSnapshot()
>> <$button
>> set="$:/_snapshots##$(snapText)$"
>> setTo={{$:/StoryList!!list}}>
>> {{$:/core/images/done-button}}
>> Save
>> \end
>>
>>
>> *-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
>> closing all others.(OpenStory)*
>>
>> \define loadSnapshot() <$button set="$:/StoryList!!list" 
>> setTo={{$:/_snapshots##$(snapSelect)$}}> {{$:/core/images/right-arrow}} 
>> Load \end
>>
>> -Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 27.04.2016 um 14:59 schrieb Mat:
>>
>> Maybe matabeles/tobias'  thing will help? 
>>
>>
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 2:07:48 PM UTC+2, Jan wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I would 
>>> need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools. What I would 
>>> need most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows 
>>> *-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new 
>>> Tiddler, and (SaveStory)*
>>> * -to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
>>> closing all others. (OpenStory)*
>>> I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.
>>>
>>> Yours Jan 
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

2016-04-27 Thread Alex Hough
Hi Jeremy,

Yes indeed , the editor looks and feels really good

One of the things it does is to encourage experimentation right away in the
edit template. With the preview page, I think that seeing the
transformation happen instantly is one of the features that makes TW so
addictive.

For the future, the search filter from advanced search could be
incorporated along with the [[link]]. Like I mentioned before somewhere,
there is a scale of complexity which starts with formating moves onto links
then into filters and macros. I think the toolbar could be a great way of
introducing these features.


Alex

On 27 April 2016 at 10:37, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Wow, the editor looks perfect to me. This will increase the usability of
> tw a lot.
>
>
> Thanks Bo, much appreciated.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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[tw] Docu-macros: Missing .controlpanel-tab Theme-tweaks

2016-04-27 Thread Pau Deluca
Hi!

I'd need some advise to add the ControlPanel tab "Theme Tweaks" to the 
documentation macro <<.controlpanel-tab [parameter]>> or to define a new 
equivalent macro.

The difficulty I find there is that "Theme Tweaks" tab is not defined like 
$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Info or $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance, but 
(logically) as $:/themes/tiddlywiki/[theme]/themetweaks, as its contents 
vary depending on the chosen theme. 

My attempts to fiddle in the macro definition are by now sterile.

Thanks for all help.

P.-)


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Guidance on naming convention for custom core tiddler

2016-04-27 Thread Mal
Hegart and Mario,

Thanks for the helpful replies.

I think I will follow Mario's advice and put my new module into a plugin 
format.

Regards,

Mal


On Tuesday, 26 April 2016 20:16:58 UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:47:18 AM UTC+2, Mal wrote:
>>
>> ... use a prefix like "$:/mal/modules...", or "$:/_mal/modules..."?
>>
>
> Yes, that's definitely the way to go. core is for official tw core only
>
> unwritten best practice atm is: 
>
> plugins .. $:/plugins//
> themes .. $:/themes//
>
> languages .. $:/languages/xx-YY .. eg: $:/languages/de-DE, ..de-AT, de-CH 
> ...
>
> your own system tiddlers .. $:/_anyName or $:/_mal/anyName if you prefer 
> this.
>
> The underline just takes care, that your own tiddlers are listed at the 
> top of a "standard" list filter. So this is just for convenience. 
>
> If you create javascript /modules/ you should probably use the "plugin" 
> convention
>
>
> just some thoughts
>
> -m
>
>
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[tw] Re: To Jeremy Ruston - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...

2016-04-27 Thread Mat
Hegart, 
 

> I did a  search for your funny little dunce-hat emoticon in the 
> TiddlyWikiDev  
> forums, and came across many instances of posts you've made there, so I 
> know you know about "the Dev channel".
>

Ah, sorry, I had just never heard the Dev group being referred to as the 
Dev *channel*, that's all. But then, which threads there does Josiah refer 
to?

(Dunce-hat!? I'm but a beautiful cone head 
!
 
)

...

The no-server-needed was definitely what enabled me to begin using TW.. If 
some server based or server interactive solutions came up, that did not 
take away the current TW format but worked as a parallel fork, I'd be fine 
with that too. Were additional multi-file offline solutions to come, beyond 
the nodejs version we have, I'd be fine with that too. I'm not saying I'd 
use any of them, I don't know that -  but of course TW would reach a larger 
user base and likely attract even more competence, brains, solutions, and 
ideas that cross-pollinate and bring benefit also for the current TW.


<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Category task list and Calendar plugin

2016-04-27 Thread Shaw McAllan
Thanks, Arkady.
 
:)
-S

On Wednesday, 27 April 2016 05:00:05 UTC+1, Arkady Grudzinsky wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 8:13:32 AM UTC-7, Shaw McAllan wrote:
>
>
>> I'm curious about one thing though - if I have two task lists is there a 
>> way to display the tasks from both of them at the same time under the one 
>> "unfinished"/"finished" section?
>>
> You can modify the list filter:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[New Project 1]][tag[New Project 
> 2]]+[tag[task]!tag[done]]">
> 
>
> This will show the incomplete task list from both New Project 1 and New 
> Project 2
> ​
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[tw] [TW5] Commit message dosen't match in #2396

2016-04-27 Thread Myeongjin Lee
Commit message dosen't match in #2396, which is named 'Cleanup language 
editions',

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Re: [tw] Re: Docu-macros: Missing .controlpanel-tab Theme-tweaks

2016-04-27 Thread Pau Deluca
I've just commit and PR a workaround:

I've created a core tiddler tagged as a control panel tab, that transcludes 
the contents of the plugin. This leaves the plugin untouched and reads the 
name of the tab from the core tiddler (and I presume that it would allow 
that further theme customisations including a theme-tweaks feature could be 
added to the control panel, maybe as a filter, rather than as a direct 
transclusion of a particular plugin tiddler).

The patch seems to work fine, so <<.controlpanel-tab Theme-tweaks>> 
retrieves the caption field from the newly created core tiddler and shows 
the contents of the plugin tiddler.

I presume that I could take a similar approach to add Sources to the 
parameters of .info-tab, so <<.info-tab Sources>> retrieves the translated 
tab name.

Does it seem right?

P.-)


El miércoles, 27 de abril de 2016, 11:31:52 (UTC+2), Jeremy Ruston escribió:
>
> Hi Pau
>
> The difficulty is that the ThemeTweaks tab is not part of the core; it is 
> part of the “Vanilla” theme plugin. So it should not be named with a 
> $:/core prefix.
>
> The `controlpanel-tab` is defined like this:
>
> \define .controlpanel-tab(_) <<.tab "$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/$_$">>
>
> Could you perhaps just invoke the underlying `tab` macro directly:
>
> <<.tab "$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks">>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:27, Pau Deluca  
> wrote:
>
> SOLVED:
>
> I finally found a way to add ThemeTweaks to the list of available 
> parameters of the macro <<.controlpanel-tab >>:
>
>
>- I created a tiddler named *$:/**core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks*, 
>tagged as *$:/**tags/ControlPane*l, 
>- text body transcludes the tiddler 
>*$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks*, 
>- field caption receives the value of the translated tab's name. In 
>this case "Ajustes del tema"
>
> This keeps the tab ThemeTweaks in the control panel whilst allowing the 
> usage of <<.controlpanel-tab ThemeTweaks>>, while 
> *$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks* remains untouched and 
> available for future updates with -as long as I can test- no further 
> problem.
>
> Using the name  *$:/_**core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks* makes the tab to 
> appear in the control panel, but doesn't solve the macro issue.
>
> With your permission, I will prepare a ThemeTweaks tab-patch, as well as 
> the corresponding update of the parameter list in the documentation.
>
> P.-)
>
>
> El miércoles, 27 de abril de 2016, 8:17:43 (UTC+2), Pau Deluca escribió:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'd need some advise to add the ControlPanel tab "Theme Tweaks" to the 
>> documentation macro <<.controlpanel-tab [parameter]>> or to define a new 
>> equivalent macro.
>>
>> The difficulty I find there is that "Theme Tweaks" tab is not defined 
>> like $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Info or $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance, 
>> but (logically enough) as $:/themes/tiddlywiki/[theme]/themetweaks, as its 
>> contents should vary depending on the chosen theme -even if it doesn't-, 
>> which also makes that the translatable lines of that tab cannot be included 
>> in the translators plugin, but must be directly translated in the tiddler 
>> theme by theme.
>>
>> My attempts to fiddle in the macro definition are by now sterile. 
>>
>> Thanks for all help.
>>
>> P.-)
>>
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Docu-macros: Missing .controlpanel-tab Theme-tweaks

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Pau

Sorry for the confusion.

The approach you’re suggesting won’t work. The trouble is that the theme tweaks 
tab is part of the “vanilla” theme plugin, and not part of the core. That means 
that it would be wrong to embed it in a tiddler with the $:/core prefix.

Can you use the approach I suggested below of invoking the <<.tab>> macro 
directly?

Best wishes

Jeremy



> On 27 Apr 2016, at 11:28, Pau Deluca  wrote:
> 
> I've just commit and PR a workaround:
> 
> I've created a core tiddler tagged as a control panel tab, that transcludes 
> the contents of the plugin. This leaves the plugin untouched and reads the 
> name of the tab from the core tiddler (and I presume that it would allow that 
> further theme customisations including a theme-tweaks feature could be added 
> to the control panel, maybe as a filter, rather than as a direct transclusion 
> of a particular plugin tiddler).
> 
> The patch seems to work fine, so <<.controlpanel-tab Theme-tweaks>> retrieves 
> the caption field from the newly created core tiddler and shows the contents 
> of the plugin tiddler.
> 
> I presume that I could take a similar approach to add Sources to the 
> parameters of .info-tab, so <<.info-tab Sources>> retrieves the translated 
> tab name.
> 
> Does it seem right?
> 
> P.-)
> 
> 
> El miércoles, 27 de abril de 2016, 11:31:52 (UTC+2), Jeremy Ruston escribió:
> Hi Pau
> 
> The difficulty is that the ThemeTweaks tab is not part of the core; it is 
> part of the “Vanilla” theme plugin. So it should not be named with a $:/core 
> prefix.
> 
> The `controlpanel-tab` is defined like this:
> 
> \define .controlpanel-tab(_) <<.tab "$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/$_$">>
> 
> Could you perhaps just invoke the underlying `tab` macro directly:
> 
> <<.tab "$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks">>
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:27, Pau Deluca alamier.com 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> SOLVED:
>> 
>> I finally found a way to add ThemeTweaks to the list of available parameters 
>> of the macro <<.controlpanel-tab >>:
>> 
>> I created a tiddler named $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks, tagged as 
>> $:/tags/ControlPanel, 
>> text body transcludes the tiddler $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks, 
>> field caption receives the value of the translated tab's name. In this case 
>> "Ajustes del tema"
>> This keeps the tab ThemeTweaks in the control panel whilst allowing the 
>> usage of <<.controlpanel-tab ThemeTweaks>>, while 
>> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks remains untouched and available for 
>> future updates with -as long as I can test- no further problem.
>> 
>> Using the name  $:/_core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks makes the tab to appear 
>> in the control panel, but doesn't solve the macro issue.
>> 
>> With your permission, I will prepare a ThemeTweaks tab-patch, as well as the 
>> corresponding update of the parameter list in the documentation.
>> 
>> P.-)
>> 
>> 
>> El miércoles, 27 de abril de 2016, 8:17:43 (UTC+2), Pau Deluca escribió:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I'd need some advise to add the ControlPanel tab "Theme Tweaks" to the 
>> documentation macro <<.controlpanel-tab [parameter]>> or to define a new 
>> equivalent macro.
>> 
>> The difficulty I find there is that "Theme Tweaks" tab is not defined like 
>> $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Info or $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance, but 
>> (logically enough) as $:/themes/tiddlywiki/[theme]/themetweaks, as its 
>> contents should vary depending on the chosen theme -even if it doesn't-, 
>> which also makes that the translatable lines of that tab cannot be included 
>> in the translators plugin, but must be directly translated in the tiddler 
>> theme by theme.
>> 
>> My attempts to fiddle in the macro definition are by now sterile. 
>> 
>> Thanks for all help.
>> 
>> P.-)
>> 
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Re: [tw] Use core images in a button

2016-04-27 Thread David Myers
Advanced search only shows a single copy.

plus the 'import' tiddler retains details of when I imported just now

I propose that you don't worry, my problem is solved, thanks to super rapid
response.

(did I mention I love TW everything about it is great).


D

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi David
>
> Sorry, should have been more clear, I had clearly deleted it at some point
> by accident, probably when importing / exporting something else.
>
>
> Because it’s part of the core plugin you can’t have actually deleted it,
> just overwritten it with something else. So you should be able to open the
> extraneous tiddler in your wiki and then delete your local copy, allowing
> the core shadow version to reassert itself.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Just dragged it into my TW5 from tiddlywiki.com
>
> problem solved.
>
>
> D
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi David
>>
>> That was far too silly, it never even occured to me that I may not have
>> it !
>>
>>
>> Well, you should have it; it’s part of the core plugin. I was speculating
>> whether you might have accidentally deleted it.
>>
>> What do you see if you search for “spiral” in the shadow tab of
>> $:/AdvancedSearch?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jeremy.
>>
>> D
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David
>>>
>>> Your example below works for me when I paste it into an empty TW. Maybe
>>> you’ve accidentally overwritten the $:/core/images/spiral tiddler?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:16, David Myers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" title="Edit this tiddler">
>>> {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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[tw] Re: TypeError: tree is undefined when using markdown plugin

2016-04-27 Thread BJ
Hi Adrian,
I would like to reproduce this problem and need some info -
what version of tiddlywiki is this? (the version is displayed in the info 
tab of the control panel - got to by click the 'cog' icon on the right - or 
alternatively place <> in a tiddler) 
what browser (and version) are you usings
where did you get the markdown plugin from?

cheers
BJ 

On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 10:16:50 PM UTC+1, Adrian Goins wrote:
>
> Howdy, all. I'm really excited about TW, and I started working with it 
> this morning. I'd like to compose in Markdown, since I use it in a number 
> of other places and am very comfortable with it. The markdown plugin works 
> great, but when I re-open the wiki and create a new document and set the 
> content type to "Markdown (text/x-markdown)," I get a big nasty red popup 
> that says "TypeError: tree is undefined." Restarting has no effect. I've 
> uninstalled and reinstalled the plugin, started a new wiki, and done 
> everything I can think of. This error returns consistently.
>
> This seems to be connected to the Markdown plugin, since the error only 
> appears when setting the content type. I'm unable to find anything about it 
> anywhere online, so maybe I'm just overlooking something simple?
>
> Thanks in advance for any guidance.
>
> Adrian
>
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[tw] Re: To Jeremy Ruston - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...

2016-04-27 Thread Hegart Dmishiv
Hi Mat,

(Dunce-hat!? I'm but a beautiful cone head 
> !
>  
> )
>

Ah, I see, sorry, showing my age here again.
 

> The no-server-needed was definitely what enabled me to begin using TW.. If 
> some server based or server interactive solutions came up, that did not 
> take away the current TW format but worked as a parallel fork, I'd be fine 
> with that too. Were additional multi-file offline solutions to come, beyond 
> the nodejs version we have, I'd be fine with that too. I'm not saying I'd 
> use any of them, I don't know that -  but of course TW would reach a larger 
> user base and likely attract even more competence, brains, solutions, and 
> ideas that cross-pollinate and bring benefit also for the current TW.
>

On that we can totally agree. I don't use Node.js at all. I have used 
GitHub to host a TW instance, and had to deal with tiddlers as individual 
files in that setup, similar to the way Node.js does. I currently have 
several TWs hosted on Dropbox, which I'm not a fan of either, but I use it 
because that's what the *{{DesignWrite}}* course uses currently. Beyond 
that, as long as any future developments of TiddlyWiki don't impinge on the 
single-file nature of the TWs I use, I'm all for other people being able to 
use TW the way they want to. I see no problem with the co-existance of both 
single-file and server-based TiddlyWiki development.

Hegart.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent a certain tiddler to be saved

2016-04-27 Thread The Bo
Hey Mat,

it prevents a tiddler to be saved but it doesn't work for the tiddler 
$:/status/UserName because the tiddler is deleted after saving. So there is 
no "_canonical_uri" set for the tiddler.

@Jeremy
Ok so that solution is a dead end. Do you have another idea?

Regards,
The Bo
Am Freitag, 22. April 2016 17:32:49 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>
> Ok, I got this to work (copied on Jeremys earlier instructions)
>
> I put this in one tiddler
>
> title: $:/core/save/all
>
> \define saveTiddlerFilter()
> [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]] 
> -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] 
> -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[YOURTIDDLER]] 
>  +[sort[title]] $(publishFilter)$
> \end
>
>- {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}
>
>
> ...and this in another
>
> title: MyButton
>
>  <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-download-file" $param=
> "" filename="index.html"/>
> Special Save
> 
>
> Comically, I forgot to change the $param so left it with that dummy name.
>
> This saves everything except the marked pink.
>
> <:-)
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[tw] TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

2016-04-27 Thread Jan Johannpeter

Hello,
I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I would 
need some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools. What I would 
need most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows
-to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new 
Tiddler, and (SaveStory)
-to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
closing all others. (OpenStory)

I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.

Yours Jan

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Re: [tw] Use core images in a button

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi David

Your example below works for me when I paste it into an empty TW. Maybe you’ve 
accidentally overwritten the $:/core/images/spiral tiddler?

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:16, David Myers  wrote:
> 
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" title="Edit this tiddler">
> {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
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Re: [tw] Use core images in a button

2016-04-27 Thread David Myers
OMG !

That was far too silly, it never even occured to me that I may not have it !

Thanks Jeremy.

D


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> Hi David
>
> Your example below works for me when I paste it into an empty TW. Maybe
> you’ve accidentally overwritten the $:/core/images/spiral tiddler?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:16, David Myers  wrote:
>
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" title="Edit this tiddler">
> {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
> 
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Docu-macros: Missing .controlpanel-tab Theme-tweaks

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Pau

The difficulty is that the ThemeTweaks tab is not part of the core; it is part 
of the “Vanilla” theme plugin. So it should not be named with a $:/core prefix.

The `controlpanel-tab` is defined like this:

\define .controlpanel-tab(_) <<.tab "$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/$_$">>

Could you perhaps just invoke the underlying `tab` macro directly:

<<.tab "$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks">>

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:27, Pau Deluca  wrote:
> 
> SOLVED:
> 
> I finally found a way to add ThemeTweaks to the list of available parameters 
> of the macro <<.controlpanel-tab >>:
> 
> I created a tiddler named $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks, tagged as 
> $:/tags/ControlPanel, 
> text body transcludes the tiddler $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks, 
> field caption receives the value of the translated tab's name. In this case 
> "Ajustes del tema"
> This keeps the tab ThemeTweaks in the control panel whilst allowing the usage 
> of <<.controlpanel-tab ThemeTweaks>>, while 
> $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks remains untouched and available for 
> future updates with -as long as I can test- no further problem.
> 
> Using the name  $:/_core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks makes the tab to appear 
> in the control panel, but doesn't solve the macro issue.
> 
> With your permission, I will prepare a ThemeTweaks tab-patch, as well as the 
> corresponding update of the parameter list in the documentation.
> 
> P.-)
> 
> 
> El miércoles, 27 de abril de 2016, 8:17:43 (UTC+2), Pau Deluca escribió:
> Hi!
> 
> I'd need some advise to add the ControlPanel tab "Theme Tweaks" to the 
> documentation macro <<.controlpanel-tab [parameter]>> or to define a new 
> equivalent macro.
> 
> The difficulty I find there is that "Theme Tweaks" tab is not defined like 
> $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Info or $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance, but 
> (logically enough) as $:/themes/tiddlywiki/[theme]/themetweaks, as its 
> contents should vary depending on the chosen theme -even if it doesn't-, 
> which also makes that the translatable lines of that tab cannot be included 
> in the translators plugin, but must be directly translated in the tiddler 
> theme by theme.
> 
> My attempts to fiddle in the macro definition are by now sterile. 
> 
> Thanks for all help.
> 
> P.-)
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[tw] Use core images in a button

2016-04-27 Thread David Myers
Hello all,

This seems like it should be really easy, but I can't find the answer 
anywhere, and my test are not working.

I would like to create a 'reveal' button that use the  
$:/core/images/spiral image as the target for the click.

I know how to make a general reveal button.

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" popup=<>>
Button Text

<$reveal type="nomatch" state=<> text="">

This is the contents that are revealed when pressing the button, you can 
include any type of tiddly wiki
item within this section, including buttons (and possibly transclusions?  
need to test).

Just ensure the contents are between the ``reveal`` tags



I have even used the 'edit' tiddler icon in the past (sample below)

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" title="Edit this tiddler">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-tiddler"/>
{{$:/core/images/edit-button}}


But can't work out how to do the same for the other core images.

I've tried

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" title="Edit this tiddler">
{{$:/core/images/spiral}}


But get no image showing up, so I tried with an 
[img[{{$:/core/images/edit-button}}]] 
but again no joy.

I'm guessing the problem is somehow related to my desire to transclue a 
system tiddler.

Any help will be greately appreciated.

David

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

2016-04-27 Thread The Bo
Wow, the editor looks perfect to me. This will increase the usability of tw 
a lot.


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[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

2016-04-27 Thread The Bo


Am Samstag, 23. April 2016 14:14:24 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> Now that the editor toolbar work is completed, I’d like to release 
> TiddlyWiki 5.1.12 in the next couple of days. I’d be very grateful for help 
> with testing this release; there are a lot of changes this time around 
> which brings a potential for things to go wrong. 
>
> There’s a prerelease available for testing: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>
> Please give it a try - be cautious about your personal data, and take 
> careful backups. Perform a test upgrade of your wikis and check for any 
> problems: 
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/upgrade.html 
>
> Please let me know if you spot any issues. This is a great time to submit 
> documentation updates but I’m afraid its too late for any further 
> functional changes. In particular if you have published TiddlyWiki 
> resources that are not currently linked from 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease do please consider submitting a pull 
> request. 
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> Best wishes 
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Prevent a certain tiddler to be saved

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Bo

I think you may need to pull back and describe your overall goals here. Your 
original post included this idea:

> My idea was to set _canonical_uri for the $:/status/UserName to a lokal 
> .tid-file (username.tid) so that the username is transcluded by that file.

The trouble is that _canonical_uri only works in certain circumstances, and 
when it does, it works asynchronously. I don’t think you’ll be able to get this 
to work in the way that you describe. The code that reads the username from 
that tiddler doesn’t know how to resolve the _canonical_uri field, and as I 
say, it’s synchronous, so couldn’t work anyway.

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> Wow, the editor looks perfect to me. This will increase the usability of tw a 
> lot.

Thanks Bo, much appreciated.

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Use core images in a button

2016-04-27 Thread David Myers
Sorry, should have been more clear, I had clearly deleted it at some point
by accident, probably when importing / exporting something else.

Just dragged it into my TW5 from tiddlywiki.com

problem solved.


D

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi David
>
> That was far too silly, it never even occured to me that I may not have it
> !
>
>
> Well, you should have it; it’s part of the core plugin. I was speculating
> whether you might have accidentally deleted it.
>
> What do you see if you search for “spiral” in the shadow tab of
> $:/AdvancedSearch?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> Thanks Jeremy.
>
> D
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi David
>>
>> Your example below works for me when I paste it into an empty TW. Maybe
>> you’ve accidentally overwritten the $:/core/images/spiral tiddler?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:16, David Myers 
>> wrote:
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[tw] Re: Docu-macros: Missing .controlpanel-tab Theme-tweaks

2016-04-27 Thread Pau Deluca
SOLVED:

I finally found a way to add ThemeTweaks to the list of available 
parameters of the macro <<.controlpanel-tab >>:


   - I created a tiddler named *$:/**core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks*, 
   tagged as *$:/**tags/ControlPane*l, 
   - text body transcludes the tiddler 
   *$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks*, 
   - field caption receives the value of the translated tab's name. In this 
   case "Ajustes del tema"
   
This keeps the tab ThemeTweaks in the control panel whilst allowing the 
usage of <<.controlpanel-tab ThemeTweaks>>, while 
*$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/themetweaks* remains untouched and available 
for future updates with -as long as I can test- no further problem.

Using the name  *$:/_**core/ui/ControlPanel/ThemeTweaks* makes the tab to 
appear in the control panel, but doesn't solve the macro issue.

With your permission, I will prepare a ThemeTweaks tab-patch, as well as 
the corresponding update of the parameter list in the documentation.

P.-)


El miércoles, 27 de abril de 2016, 8:17:43 (UTC+2), Pau Deluca escribió:
>
> Hi!
>
> I'd need some advise to add the ControlPanel tab "Theme Tweaks" to the 
> documentation macro <<.controlpanel-tab [parameter]>> or to define a new 
> equivalent macro.
>
> The difficulty I find there is that "Theme Tweaks" tab is not defined like 
> $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Info or $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Appearance, but 
> (logically enough) as $:/themes/tiddlywiki/[theme]/themetweaks, as its 
> contents should vary depending on the chosen theme -even if it doesn't-, 
> which also makes that the translatable lines of that tab cannot be included 
> in the translators plugin, but must be directly translated in the tiddler 
> theme by theme.
>
> My attempts to fiddle in the macro definition are by now sterile. 
>
> Thanks for all help.
>
> P.-)
>
>
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Re: [tw] Use core images in a button

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi David

> That was far too silly, it never even occured to me that I may not have it !

Well, you should have it; it’s part of the core plugin. I was speculating 
whether you might have accidentally deleted it.

What do you see if you search for “spiral” in the shadow tab of 
$:/AdvancedSearch?

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> 
> Thanks Jeremy.
> 
> D
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jeremy Ruston  > wrote:
> Hi David
> 
> Your example below works for me when I paste it into an empty TW. Maybe 
> you’ve accidentally overwritten the $:/core/images/spiral tiddler?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
>> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:16, David Myers > > wrote:
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>> {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
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Re: [tw] Use core images in a button

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi David

> Sorry, should have been more clear, I had clearly deleted it at some point by 
> accident, probably when importing / exporting something else.

Because it’s part of the core plugin you can’t have actually deleted it, just 
overwritten it with something else. So you should be able to open the 
extraneous tiddler in your wiki and then delete your local copy, allowing the 
core shadow version to reassert itself.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Just dragged it into my TW5 from tiddlywiki.com 
> 
> problem solved.
> 
> 
> D
> 
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Jeremy Ruston  > wrote:
> Hi David
> 
>> That was far too silly, it never even occured to me that I may not have it !
> 
> Well, you should have it; it’s part of the core plugin. I was speculating 
> whether you might have accidentally deleted it.
> 
> What do you see if you search for “spiral” in the shadow tab of 
> $:/AdvancedSearch?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks Jeremy.
>> 
>> D
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jeremy Ruston > > wrote:
>> Hi David
>> 
>> Your example below works for me when I paste it into an empty TW. Maybe 
>> you’ve accidentally overwritten the $:/core/images/spiral tiddler?
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Apr 2016, at 10:16, David Myers >> > wrote:
>>> 
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Category task list and Calendar plugin

2016-04-27 Thread Jed Carty
I am glad people are using this. Hopefully in a few weeks I will be back to 
updating my things regularly and the twederation things will hopefully  make 
collaborating on creating plugins easier. 

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[tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

2016-04-27 Thread Mat
Maybe matabeles/tobias'  thing will help?

http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot

<:-)


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> Hello,
> I am finally trying to migrate my TWC into TW5. Unfortunately I would need 
> some very plugins which I found on Eric’s TiddlyTools. What I would need 
> most is the OpenStory/SaveStoryPlugins which allows 
> -to create a button which saves a list of open Tiddlers in a new Tiddler, 
> and (SaveStory)
> -to create a button to open all Tiddlers contained in a Tiddler while 
> closing all others. (OpenStory)
> I would be very happy, if there was a way to do this.
>
> Yours Jan 
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[tw] Re: Presenting: updated SideEditor

2016-04-27 Thread Mat
Update again. 

There was a problem with the version number so TW interpreted the previous 
update as an older version, effectively refusing to import it.

Further, the arrow tool button to toggle the SideEditor is now possible to 
hide just like other tool buttons. Particularly useful if you're using the 
SideEditor in demos and don't want to confuse people with the arrow button.

Also some styling improvements to indicate clearer what parts are active.

The code is still not fully polished and your CSS teachers eyes will think 
he's chopping onion.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] A substitute for the javascript Confirm and Alert boxes?

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Thanks Devin, I was going to reply to make the same point.

In practice, I think all of the alert()'s in the core could actually be 
replaced; I don't think any of them rely on the synchronous behaviour.

It's the confirm()s and prompt()s that are the difficulty; they are used freely 
in navigator.js in a manner which requires them to be synchronous. But I've 
always considered that to be a bit of a hack, and I'd be delighted to wake up 
and find that they had been refactored away. But I think it would be quite 
tricky: we'd have to completely change how we handle the associated messages in 
navigator.js.

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> On 26 Apr 2016, at 22:54, Devin Weaver  wrote:
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> I have looked into this. The problem is that any type of user themed 
> confirmation prompt is asynchronous. But the browser built in version 
> actually blocks code execution. In the places that TiddlyWiki needs a 
> confirmation it depends on that code blocking. In other words the need to use 
> the browsers built in confirm dialog is deeply embedded in the TW code and 
> would require significant work to change the core design and support 
> asynchronous user input.
> 
> Sadly, I don't think Jeremey nor any of the contributors are up to the task 
> with everything else going on.
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[tw] Re: TypeError: tree is undefined when using markdown plugin

2016-04-27 Thread Adrian Goins
Hi, BJ. Thanks for the interest.


   - Version 5.1.11
   - Firefox 45.0.2, though it also appears with TiddlyDesktop
   - I installed the plugin from the Official TiddlyWiki Plugin Library 
   (ControlPanel / Plugins / Get more plugins)

I can reproduce and workaround the bug with the following steps in the 
browser:

   - Create new Tiddler by clicking on link to nonexistent Tiddler
   - Set type to markdown
   - Error appears
   - Set type to TiddlyWiki 5
   - Save Tiddler (Wiki also saves at this point)
   - Edit Tiddler
   - Set type to markdown
   - Error appears
   - Cancel
   - Close window (just the window, not the whole browser)
   - Re-open window 
   - Re-load TW file from bookmark
   - Edit Tiddler
   - Set type to markdown 
   - Error does _not_ appear
   - Continue editing in markdown
   
Please let me know what else I can do to help (record video, try various 
things, etc). I'm a sysadmin with 20y experience mucking about with stuff, 
so if you need me to edit JS in the console or enable debugging or 
anything, I'm happy to do so. Just send me instructions.

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> Hi Adrian,
> I would like to reproduce this problem and need some info -
> what version of tiddlywiki is this? (the version is displayed in the info 
> tab of the control panel - got to by click the 'cog' icon on the right - or 
> alternatively place <> in a tiddler) 
> what browser (and version) are you usings
> where did you get the markdown plugin from?
>
> cheers
> BJ 
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Re: [tw] Plugin Localization

2016-04-27 Thread Myeongjin Lee
Where is localization for vanilla place in, core or plugin?

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Re: [tw] Plugin Localization

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Myeongjin

> Where is localization for vanilla place in, core or plugin?

At the moment, of course, none of the official plugins are localisable, and a 
translation plugin is only expected to contain translations for the core 
strings.

I think that the easiest arrangement for users would be to make two changes:

1) To make it possible a language plugin to include translations of plugin(s) 
as well as the core strings
2) To make it possible to have multiple language plugins active at once: 
instead of switching between plugin libraries, we'd switch between languages, 
and use all the available plugins that target the current language

With that arrangement, we could ship a single fr-FR plugin that contains 
translations for the core and all the official plugins. Third party developers 
would be able to ship their own supplemental fr-FR plugin containing the 
translations for their own plugins. So, eventually, there might be a 
`languages/TiddlyTools/fr-FR` plugin.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw] Fwd: Mozilla Add-ons: TiddlyFox extension for Firefox has been resigned on AMO

2016-04-27 Thread Jeremy Ruston
It seems that Mozilla have been having some problems with the signing process 
for add-ons, including TiddlyFox. It appears that installing the newly 
re-signed version will fix things, but please post here if you run into any 
problems over the next few weeks.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> Subject: Mozilla Add-ons: TiddlyFox extension for Firefox has been resigned 
> on AMO
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> 
> 
> Your add-on, TiddlyFox extension for Firefox, has been automatically signed.
> 
> We recently discovered a problem with the expiration date of add-on 
> signatures.
> As a result, for the next few weeks Firefox will not be able to recognize the
> signatures of some add-ons. We are contacting you because your add-on,
> TiddlyFox extension for Firefox, is affected.
> 
> To address this problem, we're signing the affected add-ons again and letting
> you know in case you need to deploy this update to your users. The details of
> this issue can be found here:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267318
> 
> This signing process involved re-packaging add-on files and adding the string
> '.1-signed' to their version numbers. The current review status of your add-on
> will remain the same. Alternatively, you can upload a new version and have it
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[tw] Re: To Jeremy Ruston - TW STAND-ALONE is MY thing ...

2016-04-27 Thread Jed Carty
What conversations are you referring to? I haven't seen anyone saying that we 
should move toward a server model for anything. 

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