Re: [tw5] Re: Adjusting IFrame Trick I would like to implement in TW

[Ste]

Could this be used with ethercalc (https://ethercalc.net/) or other node.js 
apps? 

I remember someone dropped social Calc spreadsheets into tiddlywiki ages and 
ages ago. 

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyshow v3.0 beta 2: Major improvement

[Ste]

For a moment I thought Mohammed was back! (any one heard from him?) 
But a cool looking slide show thing! 

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[tw5] Tiddly Mail

[Ste]

Is this a trick question? :)
It would be interesting.. Amazing... Different? 

I don't think it exists but if your about to reveal it...?! 

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[tw5] Re: How to use TiddlyWiki API in BoxLinux version

[Ste]

:( get well soon Jed

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[tw5] [off topic] why do people want a static tiddlywiki?

[Ste]

Coming from a place of ignorance.. 
Why are so many people keen to change tiddlywiki into a static site? What are 
the advantages? 
Is tiddlywiki not a static site? What's the difference? 

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[tw5] Re: A beautiful post that describes the Joy of Tiddlywiki

[Ste]

Mighty be helpful... 
Twederation https://github.com/inmysocks/TW5-TWederation

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[tw5] Re: How many of you use core TiddlyWIki?

[Ste]

I just grab those plugins... Gotta catch em all.. 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Android Browser

[Ste]

There is Quinoid too. https://github.com/Marxsal/Quinoid01

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[tw5] Re: [off topic] why do people want a static tiddlywiki?

[Ste]

Thanks all for the insight.
So if there were a plugin (Google anaylytics plugin) which let Google treat 
each tiddler as it's own page and you had your wiki set to no edit AND your 
wiki was small so opens quick.. 

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[tw5] Re: A plugin for diagrams and figures?

[Ste]

I've been using mathcha.io for my svg diagramming needs. 

On Wednesday, 7 October 2020 at 13:44:26 UTC+1 justinehe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'll try this during the weekend, thank you!
>
> On Tuesday, 6 October 2020 at 19:06:26 UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Jin,
>>
>> There are a number of graphics and flow chart tools for tiddlywiki, but 
>> you can use any tool that produces and output that tiddlywiki can use. You 
>> could learn SVG or get a free tool like inkscape to create and edit SVG 
>> files which by their nature can be small for simple circle, conic sections 
>> and other math related you may look at latex and other addins.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 5 October 2020 18:40:24 UTC+11, jin wrote:
>>>
>>> Our classes officially started today and I wanted to take notes in TW 
>>> however there are diagrams, figures in some subjects like a simple circle, 
>>> conic sections and other math related and I was wondering if there's like a 
>>> plugin for this because its such a hassle to import pictures but if not 
>>> then I will stick to importing
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How can you make a Q form in Tiddlywiki?

[Ste]

I've had a go at this but ran out of steam.. 
And someone did a macro/ plugin once too. 

Here's my stuff of you want to unpick it 
http://stephenteachertests.tiddlyspot.com/#Intreactive%20text

And the macro is ifAisB by Thomas https://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html

Ste
On Wednesday, 7 October 2020 at 14:48:05 UTC+1 justinehe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I want to implement Q exercises on my TW where it shows if what I typed 
> or clicked was correct or not. How can I achieve this?
>

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[tw5] Re: A plugin for diagrams and figures?

[Ste]

and of course https://editor.method.ac/

On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 16:05:22 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> Just discovered 
>
> https://vecta.io/
>
> Also, bringing it back to TiddlyWiki:
>
> https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html
>
> On Sunday, 11 October 2020 at 07:55:25 UTC+1 justinehe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you Ste, this is a great site!
>>
>> On Thursday, 8 October 2020 at 01:14:32 UTC+8 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using mathcha.io for my svg diagramming needs. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 7 October 2020 at 13:44:26 UTC+1 justinehe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll try this during the weekend, thank you!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 6 October 2020 at 19:06:26 UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jin,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a number of graphics and flow chart tools for tiddlywiki, 
>>>>> but you can use any tool that produces and output that tiddlywiki can 
>>>>> use. 
>>>>> You could learn SVG or get a free tool like inkscape to create and edit 
>>>>> SVG 
>>>>> files which by their nature can be small for simple circle, conic 
>>>>> sections 
>>>>> and other math related you may look at latex and other addins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Tones
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 5 October 2020 18:40:24 UTC+11, jin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our classes officially started today and I wanted to take notes in TW 
>>>>>> however there are diagrams, figures in some subjects like a simple 
>>>>>> circle, 
>>>>>> conic sections and other math related and I was wondering if there's 
>>>>>> like a 
>>>>>> plugin for this because its such a hassle to import pictures but if not 
>>>>>> then I will stick to importing
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: A plugin for diagrams and figures?

[Ste]

Just discovered 

https://vecta.io/

Also, bringing it back to TiddlyWiki:

https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html

On Sunday, 11 October 2020 at 07:55:25 UTC+1 justinehe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Ste, this is a great site!
>
> On Thursday, 8 October 2020 at 01:14:32 UTC+8 Ste wrote:
>
>> I've been using mathcha.io for my svg diagramming needs. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, 7 October 2020 at 13:44:26 UTC+1 justinehe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll try this during the weekend, thank you!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 6 October 2020 at 19:06:26 UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jin,
>>>>
>>>> There are a number of graphics and flow chart tools for tiddlywiki, but 
>>>> you can use any tool that produces and output that tiddlywiki can use. You 
>>>> could learn SVG or get a free tool like inkscape to create and edit SVG 
>>>> files which by their nature can be small for simple circle, conic sections 
>>>> and other math related you may look at latex and other addins.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 5 October 2020 18:40:24 UTC+11, jin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Our classes officially started today and I wanted to take notes in TW 
>>>>> however there are diagrams, figures in some subjects like a simple 
>>>>> circle, 
>>>>> conic sections and other math related and I was wondering if there's like 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> plugin for this because its such a hassle to import pictures but if not 
>>>>> then I will stick to importing
>>>>>
>>>>

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[tw5] Re: A beautiful Tiddlywiki shared by Evan Blaster

[Ste]

@David MY EYES.. MY EYES... IT BURNS.. :D... 

Most impressive. 

On Tuesday, 6 October 2020 at 01:26:09 UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:

> Almost as beautiful as mine: https://giffmex.org/experiments/redesign.html
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:07:41 AM UTC-5 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> This Tiddlywiki shared by Evan Blaster on Twitter 
>> ! 
>>
>> https://imitone.com/discover-midi/
>>
>> You can create very useful yet very eye-catching wiki using lovely 
>> Tiddlywiki! 
>>
>>
>> --Atro
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

[Ste]

That's looking really good on mobile! 

On Saturday, 17 October 2020 at 09:38:34 UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:

> Hello dear TiddlyWikians :)
>
> Right now I'm working on a better Muuri storyview. You can find its 
> progress and Demo page here: 
> https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri/
>
> It's more simple than previous versions and has less bells and whistles...
>
> As always, I welcome ideas, criticism and help :)
>
> all the best, BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

[Ste]

On mobile. Looks good. I can drag things round nicely.
 The columns button doesn't seem to make any difference. 
I set it to one thinking that would push everything into a single column 
but it remained at two. 
I also couldn't drag to an extra column for 3 or more, but that's probably 
not a bad thing on mobile. 
Ste

On Saturday, 17 October 2020 at 10:04:58 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> That's looking really good on mobile! 
>
> On Saturday, 17 October 2020 at 09:38:34 UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:
>
>> Hello dear TiddlyWikians :)
>>
>> Right now I'm working on a better Muuri storyview. You can find its 
>> progress and Demo page here: 
>> https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri/
>>
>> It's more simple than previous versions and has less bells and whistles...
>>
>> As always, I welcome ideas, criticism and help :)
>>
>> all the best, BTC
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How can you make a Q form in Tiddlywiki?

[Ste]

More stuff 
https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#z=QdZ1Fu6olKjFAV3zIosKvY5Q
On Sunday, 11 October 2020 at 22:29:29 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Jin,
>
> If this was to help with your studies, there is a few flashcard solutions 
> to help study. i will post if I find a finished solutions.
>
> Tones
>
>
> On Sunday, 11 October 2020 17:54:04 UTC+11, jin wrote:
>>
>> Hello! I'll do this someday since we are too bombarded with homeworks and 
>> assignments, thank you for the replies! 
>>
>> On Thursday, 8 October 2020 at 06:13:55 UTC+8 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Jin,
>>>
>>> There is a flash cards plugin that may be a way to go. The answer is on 
>>> the back of an animated cars
>>>
>>> You need to somehow set a toggle for the answer, and if the correct 
>>> answer is given conditionally display the result.
>>>
>>> otherwise if you just want to conceal the answer you could do so with 
>>> the details widget, the user click to see the answer.
>>>
>>> With computer based Q multiple choice can be better simply because 
>>> determining a textual answer is correct can be complex.
>>>
>>> others have used tiddlywiki this way so a bit of a search for 
>>> "tiddlywiki" +quiz and other related keywords should help you find previous 
>>> work.
>>> Presentation or slides may be other keywords.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:48:05 UTC+11, jin wrote:

 I want to implement Q exercises on my TW where it shows if what I 
 typed or clicked was correct or not. How can I achieve this?

>>>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyTools/timer.html - Calendar feature improvements

[Ste]

Hi Eric, 
This is probably a silly question, I've not really had a look at this in 
detail but have admired the updates 
from a distance. 
But... Can your stuff be used with/ work with 
http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/?

Ste

On Saturday, 17 October 2020 at 16:01:04 UTC+1 hww...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric:
>
> Your focused and persistent dedication to these Timer functions is 
> amazing!  I have not appreciated the value of good time support this much 
> since my early days with APL back in the 1970s.
>
> It is completely transforming the way I Navigate through TiddlyWiki files.
>
> Thank you very much!!
>
> Best,
> Hans
>
>
> On Saturday, October 17, 2020 at 8:42:32 AM UTC-4 Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>>  
>> Another update to http://TiddlyTools.com/timer.html:
>>
>> Events for a given calendar day are now sorted by the name of the 
>> EventList/Timeline/.ics tiddler in which they are defined.
>>
>> This makes it possible to prioritize the use of custom event colors by 
>> changing the names of the defining tiddlers.
>>
>> For example, if you want your SchoolEvents color to take precedence over 
>> any other custom event colors,
>> you could rename "SchoolEvents" to "1SchoolEvents".  Note that you can 
>> use the caption field on the tiddler
>> to "hide" it's real name, so it could still appear as "School Events" in 
>> the Calendar interface.
>>
>> Also note that this sorting extends to the event description text as 
>> well.  Thus, if there are several events
>> on the same day that are all defined in the same EventList/Timeline/.ics 
>> tiddler, they will now be sorted
>> alphabetically by description.
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyTools/timer.html - Calendar feature improvements

[Ste]

Wow! Ty Eric!!! 

On Sunday, 18 October 2020 at 09:44:28 UTC+1 Anthony wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> I've been wondering whether it would be possible to identify 'event 
> collections' so this is great.
>
> Unfortunately, my 'On This Day' calendar seems to have stopped working. 
> Using my TW with a version of TiddlyTools/Time/Calendar from 12th October 
> 2020 at 4:39am works fine but having updated to yesterday's version (17th 
> October 2020 at 1:22pm) none of my events now show on the calendar. This is 
> probably my fault as the tidders tagged with the event tag are not of type 
> 'text/plain' so that I can get the 'date;detail' information from tiddler 
> fields using, for example, the following where the information is taken 
> from a tiddler for a particular person in the project:
>
> <$view tiddler="Frances Hamilton Arnold (1956-)" field="birth-date" 
> format="date" template="0MM0DD" />;Frances Hamilton Arnold (1956-)
>
> My reasoning for doing this is so that I only need to input details once 
> in one place, using fields and then it's available elsewhere in the 
> project. Maybe this is a bad approach but seemed logical to me. If I create 
> a tidder tagged with the event tag making it 'text/plain' then it seems to 
> work fine. I can send you the file to your gmail account if that helps?
>
> Do I need to re-think the way I do this?
>
> As ever, many thanks for this fantastic project and it's spurred me on to 
> try to learn more and extend my TW abilities.
>
> Take care,
>
> Anthony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Sidebar in popup for mobile view

[Ste]

Jd's mobile layout is good and the official menu bar plugin might do for 
you.
I can't remember if that's in the current release or just the pre release 
of the next update. 
Jd's is here: 
http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/ 
On Saturday, 10 October 2020 at 08:04:32 UTC+1 Shareda wrote:

> Hello! Is there any common solution for mobile to get the sidebar 
> appearing in popup frame? Now sidebar appears in the start of the story 
> river and that is not handy to scroll up and down loosing the current 
> position.

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[tw5] Re: Sidebar in popup for mobile view

[Ste]

How odd. You should be able to give JD a shout. He's active in here. 
In the meantime would would 
https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TopStoryView
Solve your problem? 

On Tuesday, 13 October 2020 at 15:06:37 UTC+1 Shareda wrote:

> Problem: no auto-scrolling when navigate. 
> Hi!
> When I turn on JD Mobile Layout -- autoscrolling turns off. If I click any 
> link then the target tiddler opens somwhere down, but current scroll 
> position does not change.
> Maybe someone know where I should look to unterstand and solve this?
>  
> суббота, 10 октября 2020 г. в 22:17:41 UTC+6, Shareda: 
>
>> Oh, thank you! I did not know about JD Mobile Layout. It looks great and 
>> fits my needs! 
>> суббота, 10 октября 2020 г. в 16:06:14 UTC+6, Ste: 
>>
>>> Jd's mobile layout is good and the official menu bar plugin might do for 
>>> you.
>>> I can't remember if that's in the current release or just the pre 
>>> release of the next update. 
>>> Jd's is here: 
>>> http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>> On Saturday, 10 October 2020 at 08:04:32 UTC+1 Shareda wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello! Is there any common solution for mobile to get the sidebar 
>>>> appearing in popup frame? Now sidebar appears in the start of the story 
>>>> river and that is not handy to scroll up and down loosing the current 
>>>> position.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Ste]

So perhaps a better question would be...which of your mobile themes/ 
topbars plays best with this theme (I'm sure I tried it on mobile with the 
topbar plugin disabled and there wasn't anything, but that could be user 
error...)

On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:48:25 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> Hi JD,
> Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
> The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
> I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some description 
> for mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes for this 
> before) :)
>
> Liking the 
>
> On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too! 
>>
>> Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is available! 
>> Thanks again
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> JD,
>>>
>>> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
>>> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at the 
>>> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
>>> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
>>> width of the stories.
>>> I did not update to that for my use.
>>>
>>> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that 
>>> works well.
>>>
>>> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave 
>>> is necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Ste]

Hi JD,
Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some description for 
mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes for this before) 
:)

Liking the 

On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:

> Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too! 
>
> Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is available! 
> Thanks again
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> JD,
>>
>> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
>> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at the 
>> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
>> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
>> width of the stories.
>> I did not update to that for my use.
>>
>> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that 
>> works well.
>>
>> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave is 
>> necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] A small update to rboue's Three.js plugin

[Ste]

I appreciate this is an old old thread but does the three.js plugin mean I 
can display stl files in tiddlywiki... And if so do any kind genius know 
how i'd do that? I am an engineer of little brain... 

On Monday, 16 October 2017 at 21:48:25 UTC+1 inmy...@gmail.com wrote:

> For another project I had to use three.js a bit and because everything 
> goes with TiddlyWiki I started playing around with the Three.js plugin. I 
> made a small modification to the $view3js widget so that you can now pass 
> arguments to the three js program from tiddlywiki. You can pass a json 
> object to the widget as the opts input to be passed to the main function 
> for the three js program. It is a bit awkward at the moment but I will 
> hopefully clean it up in the future.
>
> It is a small update and the credit still belongs to rboue.
>
> I am not sure if many people are going to have use for this but I don't 
> know how to contact rboue and this may be useful for someone. I made a 
> quick demo here http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/ThreeJS/ if you 
> change the values on the range widgets it will rotate the object around the 
> x y or z axis.
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[tw5] Re: Google Groups Forum Changes

[Ste]

My face feature of the new Google groups..., they say it in such a positive 
way,,, is that you can't reply on mobile from the mobile view. You have to 
check the 'desktop site' option first. Brilliant. 
On Saturday, 22 August 2020 at 09:30:35 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 8:55:41 AM UTC+2, TW Tones wrote:
> ...
>
>> Have you seen the message, at least on the online forum?, where I live, I 
>> tend not to subscribe to emails
>>
>>> The new Google Groups offers all your favourite features with a fresh 
>>> look and will replace classic Groups soon
>>
>>
>> I urge you to look and complain, where it does not at least provide 
>> equivalence. Google Groups is not perfect but many of us depend on it, so 
>> please do not wait until it is too late.
>>
>
> +1
>
> You are right. Everyone should look at the new UI. ,,, *If the new UI is 
> selected, you can switch back with the "Cog icon" Settings at the top of 
> the page. Click and select: "Return to Classic Google Groups"*
>
> *You will be presented with a dialogue, that asks for feedback*. ... 
> That's the possibility to give feedback about how bad the new UI is -- From 
> my point of view!
>
>
>- The "thread" lines use way too much vertical space, so I can't get 
>an overview
>   - With classic view I can see 33 lines
>   - With new I can see: 15
>   - Browser zoom is set to 130%
>
>
>- The Group Header / Intro element in the new UI is a "scrollable" 
>which hides important information for new users
>   - Users need to scroll down to see the important stuff
>- The new group header is always visible, which is useless, since it 
>doesn't show the important content, without scrolling
>- The new group header should show the whole greeting text and it 
>should go out of the way once the user starts to scroll down
>
>
>- In the left toolbar the "Favorite Lists" are _not_ sortable!
>   - So groups, that I only visit from time to time are at the top and
>   - The important groups are hard to reach 
>   - That's a big regression
>
>
>- The thread title should be the most visible element. 
>- With the new UI a user-icon / avatar is the number 1 column, 
>- That's completely useless since most users don't provide an avatar
>   - There is no use to see the blue default icon for 90% of the posts
>- No 2 column is a list of "posters"
>   - That's not important enough to be column 2
>   - The thread title needs to be column 1 or 2
>- There is no information about how many posts and how many views a 
>thread has .. 
>- This info is IMPORTANT
>
>
> You can copy paste this list if you think I'm right. ... You can remove 
> the lines, where you think I'm wrong.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

[Ste]

I shall investigate!

On Friday, 21 August 2020 at 00:40:27 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> Ste,
>
> Using a new sharepoint Wikipage library, I load a wiki with the .aspx 
> extension, I then enforced checkout on the wikifile (Whole of library 
> setting) and only the one person who has it checked out can save. This 
> method permits serial editing, one editor after another.
>
> I chose a Wikipage library because office 365 favours documents in such 
> libraries and loads them faster (anecdotal evidence) as they need to load 
> to interact like any webpage.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, 13 August 2020 10:19:35 UTC+10, Ste wrote:
>>
>> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
>> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and 
>> then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a 
>> better way. 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] A small update to rboue's Three.js plugin

[Ste]

Ah. Ok. Isn't the stl baked into three.js? I'll have a look. 
Just prodding at the edges of embedding models from onshape.com which 
although it does a good link share won't allow it to be embedded because of 
reasons. Was hoping stl export and tiddlywiki could be a pain free ish 
solution. 
Thanks for the reply. 

On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 19:04:36 UTC+1 inmy...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think that you would need to add the stl loader component for 3js to the 
> plugin, or as a separate plugin, but it is certainly possible.
>
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 10:48:25 PM UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> For another project I had to use three.js a bit and because everything 
>> goes with TiddlyWiki I started playing around with the Three.js plugin. I 
>> made a small modification to the $view3js widget so that you can now pass 
>> arguments to the three js program from tiddlywiki. You can pass a json 
>> object to the widget as the opts input to be passed to the main function 
>> for the three js program. It is a bit awkward at the moment but I will 
>> hopefully clean it up in the future.
>>
>> It is a small update and the credit still belongs to rboue.
>>
>> I am not sure if many people are going to have use for this but I don't 
>> know how to contact rboue and this may be useful for someone. I made a 
>> quick demo here http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/ThreeJS/ if you 
>> change the values on the range widgets it will rotate the object around the 
>> x y or z axis.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

[Ste]

No. It throws up a RSofE so it's view only. 

On Thursday, 20 August 2020 at 04:07:23 UTC+1 JD wrote:

> Hi Ste, I maybe hijacking this thread but I'd like to confirm before I 
> invest time in it. Will saving work in a wiki hosted by droppages, when I 
> insert it into Teams?
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 9:19:35 AM UTC+9, Ste wrote:
>>
>> I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm 
>> just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and 
>> then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a 
>> better way. 
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: April Mackenzie is looking for a place in Oxford (England)

[Ste]

Glad to hear your doing mostly ok. Hope you continue to recover. I'm sure 
April is pleased too :D. 


On Monday, 21 September 2020 at 21:30:17 UTC+1 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Ste and TT. After recovering from the bad bit of COVID in June I've 
> had a couple of minor relapses which suggest that I might have a degree of 
> "long COVID". Definitely not as bad as some of the stories I have read, and 
> I'm learning to manage it. I've been working away on Federatial client work 
> and on TW5 (see https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commits/master and 
> associated GitHub threads). Most importantly, I was able to spend plenty of 
> time over the summer with friends and family, making the most of the 
> opportunity before things get difficult again.
>
> As to moving to Oxford, I warmly encourage it! It's a glorious city that 
> is functionally a suburb of London while being riddled with rivers and 
> green spaces.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 21 Sep 2020, at 19:52, Ste  wrote:
>
> Speaking of "The Founder.' he's been uncharacterisicly quiet for a while 
> or have I just missed his replies? 
>
> You ok Jeremy? 
>
> To answer April's question decent and cheap in Oxford is something of an 
> oxymoron :)
>
> On Monday, 21 September 2020 at 17:37:51 UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> She writes me ...
>>
>> As I get older I'd like to live near The Founder for a while.
>>
>> TiddlyWiki is most interesting. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> My third daughter, Felice, is a computer scientist. She encouraged me.
>>
>>  
>>
>> It would not be stalking JR, just honor.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Are there decent cheapish places in the area to lodge in? 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Yours, as ever, April
>>
>>
>> Suggestions can be sent to me privately to forward to April.
>> TT 
>>
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[tw5] Re: how to trasclude all tiddlers with popup windows automatically?

[Ste]

Mohammed's sliders (to be found at the top of this thread 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/GHbwtMIrA3I
Also has a pop up though as a thumbnail view. 
On Monday, 21 September 2020 at 15:58:24 UTC+1 dami...@gmail.com wrote:

> I AM an ignorant, and admitted that from my first message. I'm just a 
> physician. Don't know about all this stuff, but I admire people who do.
>
> I already had tried something like the code in your last message, but the 
> "preview" plugin is much better. With your way, it just shows a bare 
> skeleton of the linked tiddler, without formatting, or links, or images.
>
> Since I don't know how to install and try the contribution of linonetwo 
> from GitHub directly, I think I'll wait till tobibeer merges with his 
> suggestion and then I'll download the preview plugin again.
>
> Thanks for all, Mr. Gifford. And strikke, too. You people are truly nice.
>
>
>
>
> El lunes, 21 de septiembre de 2020 a las 16:36:39 UTC+2, David Gifford 
> escribió:
>
>> Wasn't suggesting you are ignorant. Sorry if I gave you that impression.
>>
>> This is a step in the right direction: add this at the top of a tiddler 
>> with links, then save and hover:
>>
>> \define tv-wikilink-tooltip()
>>
>> <$transclude field="text" mode="inline"/>
>>
>> \end
>>
>> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:32:50 AM UTC-5 dami...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In fact, I've been to tobibeer Github's page, and a one named linonetwo 
>>> has made a pull request called "Make link auto close": 
>>> https://github.com/tobibeer/tw5-preview/pull/3/files
>>>
>>> So I understand I'm not that ignorant and there is not an auto-close 
>>> option, but maybe there will be in the near future!
>>>
>>> Now I'm trying to see if I can use that contribution from linonetwo
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> El lunes, 21 de septiembre de 2020 a las 16:23:27 UTC+2, David Gifford 
>>> escribió:
>>>
 I looked over the preview and appear plugins but don't find 
 configuration settings for the amount of time after hover to close the 
 popup. 

 There might be a way to tweak this macro: 
 https://tiddlywiki.com/#tv-wikilink-tooltip%20Variable%20(Examples)

 so that it a) transcludes the text field in block mode, and b) make it 
 a global macro so that it does not have to be pasted at the top of every 
 tiddler. 

 There are some bright minds here, who may know how to do that.

 On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 8:37:03 AM UTC-5 dami...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Clarification: for Tobias Beer, "sticky" means that the popup does not 
> close in you click inside the popup. For me, "sticky" means it doesn't 
> dissapear once you don't hover over the link anymore. I would like the 
> popups to not be sticky in my sense.
>
> El lunes, 21 de septiembre de 2020 a las 15:33:34 UTC+2, Damián Gil 
> escribió:
>
>> Also, it's interesting that the popups in Andy Matuschak's notes 
>> appear fast as hell. They appear much faster online that the popups on 
>> my 
>> own, locally-stored Tiddly html file. Even though I have reduced the 
>> $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview/defaults/delay 
>> <#m_-5804361280602763110_m_-3301657790240617217_m_840949458223782062_m_242969253000540177_m_-6384522440022683868_m_4192599386984245267_%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftobibeer%2Fpreview%2Fdefaults%2Fdelay>
>>   
>> to 0 milliseconds. 
>>
>> El lunes, 21 de septiembre de 2020 a las 15:19:29 UTC+2, Damián Gil 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> I followed your instructions, and I think I'm near. I've installed 
>>> appear and preview. The problem is that the previews are sticky, no 
>>> matter 
>>> what you do. I have tried to change   
>>> $:/plugins/tobibeer/preview/defaults/class 
>>> <#m_-5804361280602763110_m_-3301657790240617217_m_840949458223782062_m_242969253000540177_m_-6384522440022683868_m_4192599386984245267_m_-7820903980050201131_%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftobibeer%2Fpreview%2Fdefaults%2Fclass>
>>>   
>>> to "popup", "appear", and " tc-preview-tiddler", and the preview keeps 
>>> sticky. In Andy Matuschak's notes is not annoying because the popups 
>>> dissapear inmediately if you cease to hover.
>>>
>>> Maybe the problem is that I'm using a "static exported html" without 
>>> knowing it. I don't know what "static" means. I have an html file in my 
>>> HDD 
>>> which I open with TiddlyDesktop. It just seems there is no option for 
>>> not 
>>> making the popups sticky.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> El lunes, 21 de septiembre de 2020 a las 14:47:38 UTC+2, David 
>>> Gifford escribió:
>>>
 Hi Dam, looks like Birthe gave you the same I answer I just did by 
 Twitter. I concur with Birthe that the preview plugin is the way, and 
 that 
 while it sounds good in theory, it is actually quite annoying. Also, I 
 am 
 almost 100% certain it will not work in static 

[tw5] Re: April Mackenzie is looking for a place in Oxford (England)

[Ste]

Speaking of "The Founder.' he's been uncharacterisicly quiet for a while or 
have I just missed his replies? 
You ok Jeremy? 

To answer April's question decent and cheap in Oxford is something of an 
oxymoron :)

On Monday, 21 September 2020 at 17:37:51 UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> She writes me ...
>
> As I get older I'd like to live near The Founder for a while.
>
> TiddlyWiki is most interesting. 
>
>  
>
> My third daughter, Felice, is a computer scientist. She encouraged me.
>
>  
>
> It would not be stalking JR, just honor.
>
>  
>
> Are there decent cheapish places in the area to lodge in? 
>
>  
>
>  Yours, as ever, April
>
>
> Suggestions can be sent to me privately to forward to April.
> TT 
>

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[tw5] Re: combining and syncing Tiddlywiki and Moodle

[Ste]

Unless you have a cracking IT dept that has customised and tweaked the 
moodle to make it nice my general advice would be.. Don't use the moodle. 
Moodle is clunky and creaky and updating resources on it is a faff. 
I tended to work round the moodle so if you add a label and press the <> 
button you can inject html into it 
I embedded my Pearltrees.com collections of resources and my wiki straight 
into the moodle. 
That way I could update both.. The students would see any changes instantly 
/ after a refresh and I didn't have to interact with the moodle ever 
again..... 

Ste

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 10:45:06 UTC+1 Jan wrote:

> Hello Community,
> Our school-board has just adopted a moodle-based LearningManagementSystem.
> Though I am a convinced TiddlyWikian I will use it because it brings 
> advantages in learning-scenarios.
> To name these advantages
> -Authentification
> -GroupManagement
> -Activities like H5P,
> -Analytics
>
> ...of course als TW has great advantages
> - Much faster editing and developping halfbaked thoughts to public texts.
> - Searching, combining...
> - Beauty ;-)
> - the priceless advantage of independence and the guarantee to be able 
> to take your notes and texts with you in a form that is readable 
> deployable anywhere else and for decades...
> (I already lost months of work in moodle where either I or the LMS quit 
> the institution )
>
> My desire would be to merge the advantages.
>
> One thing that would be great would be a tool to exchange content. For 
> example it would have helped me a lot if there had been an 
> export-to-TW-tool to export the courses at the university.
> One the other hand I would love to prepare a Moodle-Course in TW 
> (collect, sort and combine ideas and content)
>
> It seems there has been a tool for this back in 2007 for TW Classic and 
> an old version of moodle ( http://moodle.tiddlyspot.com/ ) It would be 
> great to relaunch this project for the new versions.
>
> What are your Ideas?
> Has anyone here already taken a look on moodle-programming and knows 
> how this could be achieved?
>
> Best whishes Jan
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: combining and syncing Tiddlywiki and Moodle

[Ste]

I think the overriding factor for moodle choice is it's free! But Google 
classroom is so much better 
Get yourself a Pearltrees account (free one available you can n work as 
teams in it... and has the advantage that its yours! Here's mine 
pearltrees.com/stephenteacher). Upload your docs and collect your bookmarks 
to build up your resources. Iframe embed that into your moodle through a 
label. It looks slick. Look at my moodle you can say... People will say 
ooohhh... It Is 'in the moodle' but means you don't have to wrestle with 
the moodle apart from setting assignments which isn't too painful... Though 
I did give up trying to set up a self marking maths questions... (it's in 
there!) 
Iframe embed permalinks from your tidliwikis. This will save you much 
stress. 
Another thing I used to do was host assignment docs etc. in drop box and 
link to them from the moodle. I had a sycronisation program from 
portableapps.com (quietly install without bothering the nice IT dept) which 
copied folders from my work cloud drive to my hard drive every hour and the 
folder it copied into was my Dropbox folder so any updates to 
assignments... Spelling correction... Date change.. Clarification.. would 
be live to the students in at most an hour. 

So use the moodle but drive your content in it from external sources. 
The label is your friend :)
On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 13:39:35 UTC+1 Jan wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> I have to admit what you say is ture... compared to TW moodle is 
> complicated and clumpsy. 
> Preparing a course for the next semester is a drag.
> But it alllows you to organize and engage students into tasks and collect 
> their results in a very concise way.  I guess that is why the school-board 
> took this choice.
> And for me as for most of those who work in institutions who use moodles 
> it would not be the smartes carreer-option to disdain such a choice.
>
> Therefore: The idea is not to switch to moodle but to be able to feed the 
> moodle from TW and to save back courses to TW...
>
> Best wishes Jan
>
>
>
>
> Am 01.10.2020 um 11:57 schrieb Ste:
>
> Unless you have a cracking IT dept that has customised and tweaked the 
> moodle to make it nice my general advice would be.. Don't use the moodle.  
> Moodle is clunky and creaky and updating resources on it is a faff. 
> I tended to work round the moodle so if you add a label and press the <> 
> button you can inject html into it 
> I embedded my Pearltrees.com collections of resources and my wiki straight 
> into the moodle. 
> That way I could update both.. The students would see any changes 
> instantly / after a refresh and I didn't have to interact with the moodle 
> ever again. 
>
> Ste
>
> On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 10:45:06 UTC+1 Jan wrote:
>
>> Hello Community, 
>> Our school-board has just adopted a moodle-based 
>> LearningManagementSystem. 
>> Though I am a convinced TiddlyWikian I will use it because it brings 
>> advantages in learning-scenarios. 
>> To name these advantages 
>> -Authentification 
>> -GroupManagement 
>> -Activities like H5P, 
>> -Analytics 
>>
>> ...of course als TW has great advantages 
>> - Much faster editing and developping halfbaked thoughts to public texts. 
>> - Searching, combining... 
>> - Beauty ;-) 
>> - the priceless advantage of independence and the guarantee to be able 
>> to take your notes and texts with you in a form that is readable 
>> deployable anywhere else and for decades... 
>> (I already lost months of work in moodle where either I or the LMS quit 
>> the institution ) 
>>
>> My desire would be to merge the advantages. 
>>
>> One thing that would be great would be a tool to exchange content. For 
>> example it would have helped me a lot if there had been an 
>> export-to-TW-tool to export the courses at the university. 
>> One the other hand I would love to prepare a Moodle-Course in TW 
>> (collect, sort and combine ideas and content) 
>>
>> It seems there has been a tool for this back in 2007 for TW Classic and 
>> an old version of moodle ( http://moodle.tiddlyspot.com/ ) It would be 
>> great to relaunch this project for the new versions. 
>>
>> What are your Ideas? 
>> Has anyone here already taken a look on moodle-programming and knows 
>> how this could be achieved? 
>>
>> Best whishes Jan 
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Another Python Server

[Ste]

Excellent stuff! Even if I don't quite understand it :D Thanks for sharing. 

On Sunday, 27 September 2020 at 21:54:08 UTC+1 green...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> I wanted to share a new project I've been working on. It is a python 
> server for hosting/saving tiddlywiki html files.  I started with the Ruby 
> Server one, and the "Easy local saving with Python" thread and kind of 
> expanded from there. 
>
> https://github.com/itsamenathan/tiddlysaver-python
>
> Thanks
> Nathan
>

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[tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

[Ste]

Finally got around to having a play on the not small screen.
I'm sure it's because of stuff I already had installed but with stories, I 
dragged over your stylesheet saq, there are no columns.
I can drag tiddlers around nicely vertically in each story though, which I 
quite like!
I have tried with stories disabled and I am also unable to make muri 
columns.
When I shift to small screen view it defaults to two muri columns and can't 
be toggled to one.
Will have a tinker...

Ste


On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 23:48:13 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

> TT et al,
>
> In relation to different operational modes,
>
> I have being thinking about this a lot and use a few modes in my own 
> wikis, but I would love to see them adopted more widely
>
> They follow this format
>
>- A config tiddler eg $:/config/author-mode
>- Which includes a field config-values containing a list of values or 
>a filter
>- The text contains the selected mode value
>- A field can be added to any tiddler eg author-mode whose value will 
>override that in $:/config/author-mode if present
>- A matching macro <> that returns the current mode on 
>any tiddler after testing if the field author-mode overrides it.
>- Then in tiddlers you can include code that responds to different 
>modes
>- I have a config tool that detects and displays the values for 
>selection on any tiddler containing config-values
>
> Standard modes starts with wiki-mode which has the values of view update 
> edit etc...
>
> Then I recommend the following modes at a minimum;
>
>- author-mode
>- designer-mode
>- debug-mode
>
> When I find my exhaustive list I will share.
>
> So each will have;
>
>- A config tiddler and Config-values
>- A matching fieldname
>- A matching macro that returns the value
>- The ability to select the value from a list or filter in 
>config-values
>
> Something I have learned.
>
>- Sometimes it is better not to code parts of a tiddler to operate in 
>one mode or the other, but do this within the macros you use last
>- Imagin a field macro 
><>
>- Within this macro you can determine the wiki-mode or local override 
>and display the field according to the mode eg view update or edit.
>
>
> A new topic for comments posted
>
>
> Tones
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 22:27:50 UTC+11, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I think in actual practice I'd use Muuri to *arrange a site* for online 
>>>> publishing I do NOT want users to mess with.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, yes I didn't think about that so much. There's the option to disable 
>>> dragging and to hide the dragging button from the pagecontrols menu, then 
>>> disabling the dragging-keyboard-shortcut by removing the tag 
>>> $:/tags/KeyboardShortcut and doing the same for the columns button and the 
>>> two columns shortcuts...
>>>
>>> What I'm getting at is its a tool for content/organisation by developers 
>>>> as much as for end users. Yes?
>>>
>>>
>>> Which tool do you mean? Muuri itself or the dragging on/off button?
>>>
>>
>> Yeah. The controls. 
>>
>> Maybe? Maybe some hidden option to HIDE the tool could aid publishers 
>>>> publish their arrangement without worry the end user will mess with it?
>>>
>>>
>>> I would go with the options described above...
>>>
>>
>> Right. FYI I'll likely write a macro do the settings for the contexts I 
>> need on one press.
>>
>> My *point* was to highlight some *auteur* issues that are implicit and 
>> make them more explicit.
>> I wasn't really expecting you to DO anything :-). 
>> Rather, highlight that Muuri can be viewed as an EXCELLENT "author's 
>> arrangement tool" and not just an end-consumer tool.
>>
>> I think if you made that clearer it might well increase uptake? In brief, 
>> for site design, it makes an otherwise tiresome task easier. 
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Ste]

Oh bugger! 
Eeep.
Let's hope it's a temporary thing! 


On Friday, 23 October 2020 at 20:44:47 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Ste]

Might be time to rent a pi and get bob-ing
https://www.mythic-beasts.com/
Here is hoping they get things back up. 
The wayback machine is also good for getting that tiddlyspot that's not 
been updated for 
a while but is still usefull. 
Less good for last weeks updates. :(

On Sunday, 25 October 2020 at 15:56:52 UTC Mark S. wrote:

> You would need to set up something like store.php or tw-receiver on the 
> site. It would be interesting to know how large the tiddlyspot collection 
> was (is?) . I'm guessing when it hit a certain size it triggered an 
> internal Dreamhost audit.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 8:53:11 AM UTC-7, Hans Wobbe wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ciao TT:
>>
>> I gather you are a fan of DreamHost.  If you have a moment I would 
>> appreciate a brief comment on how easy/difficult it might be to set up a 
>> personal account that could host a single TW file.
>>
>> I've browsed their site a bit and it looks appealing, but I could not 
>> find anything that reassures me specifically with respect to TW.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Eric
>>>
>>> I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.
>>>
>>> TT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know 
> about the problem.
>

 I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
 simple fix".

 Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
 http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com

 -e

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Mat on Hangouts - any questions?

[Ste]

Is it too late? 
Mat.. How do you remain so devilishly handsome while doing so much tiddlywiki? 

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[tw5] Re: TiddlySmile ...

[Ste]

April Mic'nZee of Oxford, New Oxford, has written into complain about a plugin 
name. 

April writes, 

I am displeased by the title of the plugin 'JSON mangler'. My little Timmy 
mangled his JSON and it was a night in A and E and five stitches! 

A cautionary tale and we all hope little Timmy has recovered. 

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[tw5] Re: Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

[Ste]

I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm just 
hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and then 
inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a better way. 

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[tw5] Re: http://evanbalster.com/ where are you!!!!

[Ste]

Hi Mark, sorry to mither...

I've created buttons which copy the entire macro to a new tiddler, create 
error messages and do nothing at all (I swear once I heard it laughing at 
me...) but not one of my bumbling attempts at tiddlywiki-speak have made 
the text of the date, and only the text of the date, appear in another 
field or tiddler.

To clarify...

enter a date in a field.

Use your wonderful macro to add a number of days (probably in another field)

Put the text output of that in a final field.   <--This be the bit that 
killing me :)

Smile as vis.js finally recognises the output!

:)
On Thursday, 9 July 2020 at 17:40:46 UTC+1 Mark S. wrote:

>
> https://marxsal.github.io/various/playground.html#Date%20Conversion%20Macros
>
> You can calculate future dates. Coupled with the range widget, you could 
> calculate a series of dates every X days apart. To poke it back into a 
> field requires a button or other action widget, as always.
>
> If you have an app that depends on thousands of dates being calculated 
> when the TW loads, then this might not be the solution for you. Javascript 
> will always be faster. However, even Javascript has some serious date range 
> limitations built in, surprisingly enough.
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 8:49:10 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>>
>> Ste, it may be worth considering that TW now has math functionality that 
>> was not available when Evan made his plugin. Also, I recall digging up some 
>> algo for how to calculate future dates that Mark used for some problem. 
>> Maybe he has a ready made solution that you can use.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>

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[tw5] [Tangetially tiddlywiki] mathcha

[Ste]

I've just discovered https://www.mathcha.io/ and like it a lot  Not as much as 
tiddlywiki, obviously ;)

I bring it up here for a few reasons;

a) some people here might appreciate using https://www.mathcha.io/

b) In my fantasy future mathcha and tiddlywiki collide and make something 
awsome!

c) Could mathcha provide some input into the ongoing thoughts of wysiwyg 
tiddlers?

Ste

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[tw5] Re: IF you are a Mathematician. What tools would you like ready installed in wiki for Maths use?

[Ste]

TT you asked this a while ago! 
Lego Kit: for MATHEMATICIANS? Thoughts?

(I can't get the link from a search from mobile) 

As Diego says Katex is essential (and the reason I initially pickled tiddlywiki)
Evans maths plugin
Possibly mathcell (I've rescued a copy from the wayback machine.) 
Simple graphing library (graph-tw5) with some extra magic provided by Birthe (I 
think) which lets sliders alter the graph in real time. 
Personally... My templates to let equations list other equations in which a 
variable appears in (now I'd sell it as 'roam like functionality for your 
equations, backlinks to show which other equations contain your variables' 
example here: stephenteacher.glitch.me)

And then all the tweaks I've made to tiddlywiki! 

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[tw5] Re: 'page turning' facility

[Ste]

Mohammed's slides might also be a solution. 

http://tiddlyshow.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw5] Automatic creation of Tiddler on Save?

[Ste]

Creating an empty tiddler if [[thing inside]] doesn't exist when you click on 
the link is the default behaviour in tiddlywiki. 

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[tw5] Re: Ideas for an UN-official community plugin library

[Ste]

Off topic but I keep reading this as U.N.Official community plugin library and 
get half way though thinking 'wow.. Tiddlywiki being used by the UN and they 
have a plugin library for it!!! That's amazing' before reading the title 
correctly. 

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[tw5] Re: Release: Muuri StoryView v0.2.0

[Ste]

Just had a quick look on my phone and moving anything freezes it in place 
and it kind of.. Judders before a RSOE

On Wednesday, 6 January 2021 at 09:27:05 UTC BurningTreeC wrote:

> I've *updated* both the *Muuri *and the *Muuri-Kanban* plugins to version 
> v0.2.6 and v0.1.4 respectively
>
> For the Muuri plugin I've added the option to auto-save after dragging and 
> I've fixed the bug @Sylvain mentioned above (grid dimensions not refreshing 
> when window dimensions change)
>
> For the Muuri-Kanban plugin I've added the auto-save configuration option 
> in the plugin-config (works only with the Muuri plugin v0.2.6 and above) 
> and updated some styles
>
>
> best wishes,
> BTC
>
> TW Tones schrieb am Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2021 um 00:18:30 UTC+1:
>
>> Thank you BTC,
>>
>> Very nice. I need to use this for some big decisions shortly, Lets see if 
>> I can share the methods I use.
>>
>> The option to add more buttons, need only be a hack, its the possibility 
>> for a designer to add additional handling to cards and columns that's 
>> needed,  they can take responsibility for spacing etc...
>>
>>- Such a customisation may be as little as a tick button, or a help 
>>icon etc...
>>- Personally I use muuri and Kanban on a large screen, so I have 
>>plenty of real-estate.
>>
>> One thing I believe Muuri can achieve that other layouts can't, is to 
>> support "large, single or multiple 'pain of glass' dashboard's", given the 
>> versatility of content in tiddlers, including iFrames to other sites and 
>> resources that a Muuri could be used in NOC's (Network Operating Centres) 
>> or Operation centre for space or traffic control.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Tuesday, 5 January 2021 at 20:00:56 UTC+11 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks @Tones,
>>>
>>> The top drop area will be at the bottom in the next update
>>> I'll add a link button to open an item in the StoryRiver
>>> I'll also make the  show conditionally if the item contains text and 
>>> style it a bit more simple
>>>
>>> About the option to add more buttons: I'd like to keep it as simple as 
>>> possuble since space is limited on those items and they shouldn't cover too 
>>> much space.
>>> Showing the subtitle though is an option I'll think about
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Simon
>>> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 5. Januar 2021 um 03:50:44 UTC+1:
>>>
 BTC,

 Great stuff. I particularly like your Kanban and like the way you are 
 leveraging the history for "compound tiddlers". 

 I really like the way you handle various drag and drop handling

- Although the top + area to start new columns is great, after 
building my board, I would like to be able to hide it, or toggle it, or 
perhaps move it to the bottom.

 Other possible improvements from my perspective

- Option to hide the  when no text exists for a card (good for 
simple lists)
- Perhaps the ability to toggle the display of the text when it 
exists
- love the inline edit, but a link to the actual tiddler would be 
helpful.

 More advanced features

- It would be nice if we could introduce our own buttons and 
subtitle to each column and cards, 
   - Much like the viewToolBar and subtitle works on tiddlers. 
   - This would allow a designer to add more advanced features to 
   the board and cards
  - Archive, tagging, long description under the heading and 
  more. Even the existing subtitle, for a tiddler.
  - And like the  viewToolBar and subtitle conditional 
  lists/reveals would allow response to the current tiddler.
   - A similar bottom bar on each column or card would also permit 
   useful tools to be introduced to cards
- Could Muuri be activated and deactivated with the new Layout 
switch?

 Personal use under investigation.

 I am keen to look at building a sophisticated evaluation tool making 
 use of your Kanban as so far it seems potentially the most extensible so 
 far.

- I would want to extend it as an addon to you Kanban rather than 
forking it, thus we can make use of it with Muuri
- This would mean I need to find ways to link a tiddler in one 
column with another and sort them accordingly.
- Build some advanced history list tools, usable elsewhere as well
   - Eg; access the list in the set order elsewhere than in the 
   Kanban
   - List each history list, remove the prefix list and/or indicate 
   that lists currentTiddler. Helps access where you were last active.

 Bug?

 There seems to be a bug somewhere that caused this item to be listed in 
 the history tiddler and currentTiddler field, possibly the result of a 
 drag 
 operation. I will attempt to reproduce and document.

[tw5] My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[Ste]

Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I put 
up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my colleagues 
to the dark side.

Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
(only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D

So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D

Ste

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[tw5] Re: Requesting Help to Port My TiddlySpot Files

[Ste]

I'm looking at this at the moment...I keep thinking..'Oh..I'll just edit 
this' on my wiki, then cry quietly as I remember that tiddlyspot is broken 
:(
I was thinking node.js with bob to serve multiple wikis.
So far Iv'e turned up https://www.mythic-beasts.com/ for about £70 a 
year...I think, or a combo of Domain reg from google, Hosting 
from https://www.cloudflare.com/ and serving 
from https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/ at $2.50 a month.  I 
haven't committed to anything yetGoing to boot up my pi and check I 
manage to get it all running before I throw cash after it.  The joys of the 
command line.

Ste



On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 21:59:07 UTC Mark S. wrote:

> I'm thinking as far as an offer goes, you might have the most luck posting 
> at https://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ . With or without chocolate.
>
> For setting up your own, you would need to find a web host, preferably one 
> that charges per space used rather than 
> un-metered-but-with-secret-restrictions. Then you would use store.php 
> (older) or tw-receiver to serve up your own tw host. There might be 
> additional complications if you wanted to protect your files via ssl. When 
> I looked at hosts, it seemed that most of them wanted to sell one rate for 
> 1 to 3 years, and then twice that rate afterwards. Most of them that charge 
> per storage space were more expensive. For a personal site, I might just 
> depend on TW's own encryption rather than worrying about a site getting 
> hacked.
>
> Re hosting for everyone, all the public files listed in the tiddlytoolmap 
> seem to come to about a half gig. So if the total space was under one gig, 
> then there's at least one website offering services at $6/month plus 
> probably $14/year for domain name registration.
>
> The question of size keeps coming up. It's hard to estimate how much a 
> site would cost when the total size is unknown.
>
> Well, this probably hasn't helped much, but should prompt other 
> conversations.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-8 Alvin wrote:
>
>> Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
>>
>> Did my question fall through the cracks? I don't think it can get 
>> COVID-19, so there's no need to social distance. Would it help if I offered 
>> chocolate for an answer?
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:24:15 PM UTC-6 Alvin wrote:
>>
>>> I offered to foot the bill for another hosting service for Simon and 
>>> Daniel to use to move the TiddlySpot domain, but all I've heard so far is 
>>> crickets. So I would like to take my ClassicTW files that were on 
>>> TiddlySpot and put them online somewhere else. I would appreciate it if 
>>> anyone can provide step by step instructions how to do that. I also need to 
>>> know how to keep them password protected. Thank you so much.
>>>
>>> If someone wants to contact me (Alvin dot Orzechowski at sign gmail dot 
>>> com) about my offer, please do so directly.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Requesting Help to Port My TiddlySpot Files

[Ste]

Just to edit my response, now I've actually read the thread carefully, 
oops, I'm slightly off track in my reply...I'm just looking at individual 
hosting.  I'd happily chuck some cash somebody's way for continued 
tiddlyspot workingness.  I'm guessing no one has heard anything regarding 
the future of the site?

On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 10:48:32 UTC Ste wrote:

> I'm looking at this at the moment...I keep thinking..'Oh..I'll just edit 
> this' on my wiki, then cry quietly as I remember that tiddlyspot is broken 
> :(
> I was thinking node.js with bob to serve multiple wikis.
> So far Iv'e turned up https://www.mythic-beasts.com/ for about £70 a 
> year...I think, or a combo of Domain reg from google, Hosting from 
> https://www.cloudflare.com/ and serving from 
> https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/ at $2.50 a month.  I 
> haven't committed to anything yetGoing to boot up my pi and check I 
> manage to get it all running before I throw cash after it.  The joys of the 
> command line.
>
> Ste
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 21:59:07 UTC Mark S. wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking as far as an offer goes, you might have the most luck 
>> posting at https://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ . With or without chocolate.
>>
>> For setting up your own, you would need to find a web host, preferably 
>> one that charges per space used rather than 
>> un-metered-but-with-secret-restrictions. Then you would use store.php 
>> (older) or tw-receiver to serve up your own tw host. There might be 
>> additional complications if you wanted to protect your files via ssl. When 
>> I looked at hosts, it seemed that most of them wanted to sell one rate for 
>> 1 to 3 years, and then twice that rate afterwards. Most of them that charge 
>> per storage space were more expensive. For a personal site, I might just 
>> depend on TW's own encryption rather than worrying about a site getting 
>> hacked.
>>
>> Re hosting for everyone, all the public files listed in the tiddlytoolmap 
>> seem to come to about a half gig. So if the total space was under one gig, 
>> then there's at least one website offering services at $6/month plus 
>> probably $14/year for domain name registration.
>>
>> The question of size keeps coming up. It's hard to estimate how much a 
>> site would cost when the total size is unknown.
>>
>> Well, this probably hasn't helped much, but should prompt other 
>> conversations.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-8 Alvin wrote:
>>
>>> Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
>>>
>>> Did my question fall through the cracks? I don't think it can get 
>>> COVID-19, so there's no need to social distance. Would it help if I offered 
>>> chocolate for an answer?
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:24:15 PM UTC-6 Alvin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I offered to foot the bill for another hosting service for Simon and 
>>>> Daniel to use to move the TiddlySpot domain, but all I've heard so far is 
>>>> crickets. So I would like to take my ClassicTW files that were on 
>>>> TiddlySpot and put them online somewhere else. I would appreciate it if 
>>>> anyone can provide step by step instructions how to do that. I also need 
>>>> to 
>>>> know how to keep them password protected. Thank you so much.
>>>>
>>>> If someone wants to contact me (Alvin dot Orzechowski at sign gmail dot 
>>>> com) about my offer, please do so directly.
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] BOB, Quick bit of Feedback

[Ste]

Hi Jed, :)
I've just dived back into Bob (Now there is a sentence..) and installed it 
on Termux on my phone.
Just a couple of things...

If I wget BobExe for linux, how do I run it from the command line?

I went with the manual install instructions.

git clone --depth=1 --branch v5.1.21 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.git git clone --depth=1 
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob.git TiddlyWiki5/plugins/OokTech/Bob 
mkdir TiddlyWiki5/Wikis cp -r TiddlyWiki5/plugins/OokTech/Bob/MultiUserWiki 
TiddlyWiki5/Wikis/BobWiki/ 

This worked mostly, (Once I realised I needed to change the version number 
of Tiddlywiki).  The server would start and then crash out saying it was 
unable to find folders.
The problem was that all the folders were lower case first letters, but 
error messages were thrown saying that folders with Uppercase first letters 
were not found.
Renaming the folders to change the case of the first letter seemed to cause 
different errors and editing the config only caught a couple of them.
Eventually, I got around the problem by setting up symlinks for, for 
example, Plugins, to plugins, and now it runs just fine!

Thanks for the BOB.  It is much appreciated.

Ste

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[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[Ste]

You have tracked me down! 

On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 23:17:47 UTC David Gifford wrote:

> I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQWc-alBMQ=249s
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Ste,
>>  Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I 
>>> put up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my 
>>> colleagues to the dark side.
>>>
>>> Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
>>> engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
>>> most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
>>> (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
>>> searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
>>> quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D
>>>
>>> So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D
>>>
>>> Ste
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Any way to auto generate the graph view to show the link between note like obsidian?

[Ste]

There is tidgraph https://ihm4u.github.io/tw5plugs/
Or the more full on tiddlymap.org
There is also graph widget http://emkayonline.github.io/tw5visjs/
But I've never been able to get it to work (not that I have tried very hard)
Hope that's what you are asking! 
On Saturday, 5 December 2020 at 07:28:56 UTC imleg...@gmail.com wrote:

> As the title said, it is a grateful feature, but haven't found anything 
> similar in tw yet

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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Ste]

They is all so good! I can't choose! N

On Saturday, 5 December 2020 at 17:38:21 UTC jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just wanted to double check that the four entries I found in this thread 
> are correct, please see below.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On 5 Dec 2020, at 17:30, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
> I need to close the competition now, and put up the voting form. I will 
> take the latest entries from this thread.
>
> Springer, it looks like you may have different versions up on your site. 
> If so, it would be helpful if you could repost your final entries here.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 30 Nov 2020, at 05:49, Atronoush  wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>  Yes, I agree :-).
>
> Mask artwork was in response to Jeremy request: reflect the current 
> situation and events of year. Unfortunately because of the license issue it 
> seems we cannot use the artworks with masks!
>
> --Atro
>
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 11:45:41 PM UTC+3:30 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> What we need is the TW Kitty wearing a mask. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 9:00:39 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:
>>
>>> The colorful mask is sent again! There was a need to align horizontally 
>>> center the elements.
>>>
>>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Atronoush Parsi  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Jeremy,
  Here I send two banner images, both created in Inkscape. So, you or 
 other interested people can edit and customize it.

 Artwork one: The circles means TW is a modular, lego-wise framework and 
 also it is maintained by a lovely community (group of users [outer 
 circles] 
 and group of developers [inner circles])
 [image: TW5.1.23.png]

 Artwork two: This second artwork reflects the pandemic


 [image: TW5.1.23_mask.png]
 Artwork three: same as two with colorful face mask
 [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]


 --Atro


 P.s: The second artwork uses a free open source icon from flaticon.

 On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:55 AM Jeremy Ruston  
 wrote:

> TiddlyWiki v5.1.23 is nearing release with many exciting updates; see 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease to try it out. As usual, I’d like 
> to hold a competition to design the banner image that is shown on the 
> splash screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>
> The rules for the competition are:
>
> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new 
> in 5.1.23” when it is displayed within HelloThere
> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a 
> runner-up in a previous competition
> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>
> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>
> v5.1.22 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
> v5.1.21 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>
> Inspiration might come from some of the new features in v5.1.22, or 
> perhaps reflect something of the uniqueness of this peculiar year. If 
> you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills 
> to 
> produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case 
> another 
> person would like to work on the artwork.
>
> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is 
> more than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>
> Best wishes and many thanks,
>
> Jeremy
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Re: [tw5] Latex plain text in Tiddlywiki with Katex plugin?

[Ste]

The LaTeX functionality provided by KaTeX can be found on the KaTeX website 
https://katex.org/docs/supported.html


On Monday, 23 November 2020 at 20:15:13 UTC Javier Rojas wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:46:18AM -0800, Jeronimo Minino wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Wikitext offers great formatting options, but in specific use cases 
> there 
> > can be a legitimate need for some more granularity in controling 
> features 
> > like line breaks, indents and line spacing.
>
> These you should be able to achieve by using HTML directly (e.g.,
> inserting ``s where you need a line break) and HTML + CSS (to adjust
> line spacing, create a `text goes here`)
>
> > Besides of mathematical and chemical typesetting: Is it also possible to 
> > have some Latex plain text typesetting in Tiddlywiki using the Katex 
> plugin?
>
> I ... suspect not, but I'm not sure.
>
> > Background:
> > 
> > Much of the formatting we apply to plain text in Foreign Language 
> teaching 
> > materials (slides, handouts and the like) can be considered "semantic 
> > formatting". 
> > Wikitext can not offer all of the text formatting features we need 
> -maybe 
> > in part this is due to limitations imposed by the browsers.
> >
> > If Latex plain text compatibility in Tiddlywiki is possible, I would 
> > definitely want to go down the rabbithole of making out a workflow. This 
> > might involve doing the writing in a dedicated Latex editor, and then 
> > exporting/pasting the text into tiddlers.
>
> Please tell us more about what (typographical, I guess) problems you
> need to solve (which from what you say you already know how to solve
> with plain LaTeX), so we can brainstorm a
> tiddlywiki-friendly/browser-friendly solution to them. I, for one,
> would be happy to pitch in.
>
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
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[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[Ste]

Hi Stan,
Thanks for the kind words.
It's still there on tiddlyspot, it's the editing capability which is
down and out at the momenent on tiddlyspot.
stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com

On Saturday, 28 November 2020 at 13:39:18 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ste, I watched your video thanks to Dave Gifford sharing the link.  I was 
> particularly impressed with your Engineer's Notebook and the structure 
> which you went through pretty fast.  Since TiddlySpot is down, is there 
> someplace to take a look at the  Engineer's Notebook TW? I am about to 
> start the second edition of my Numerical Analysis book and you have given 
> me a great idea for ancillary material.   There is no way a college student 
> in Engineering cannot figure out how to navigate a wiki.  
>
> Thanks,
> Stan
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:42:56 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Thank you David!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 2:47:47 AM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQWc-alBMQ=249s
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ste,
>>>>  Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Mohammad
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I 
>>>>> put up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my 
>>>>> colleagues to the dark side.
>>>>>
>>>>> Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
>>>>> engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
>>>>> (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
>>>>> searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
>>>>> quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D
>>>>>
>>>>> So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D
>>>>>
>>>>> Ste
>>>>>
>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Newbie with few distinct questions

[Ste]

Hello and welcome to the tiddlyverse! 
I can't answer your area conversion question in terms of getting javascript
running but I can point you to 
https://github.com/joshuafontany/TiddlyWikiFormula
which lets you do that kind of thin natively in tiddlywiki. 
For example I've done a forces calculator 
http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Simple%20Frame%20Calculator
Hope that helps. 
Stephen
On Saturday, 12 December 2020 at 02:08:04 UTC Alex DP wrote:

> Hello to you all.
>
> TiddlyWiki is fun to work with. However, the documentation is like a 
> fishing expedition. Someday you catch something and the next you are 
> frustrated. It is hard to understand how come a product as mature as 
> TiddlyWiki does not have a comprehensive and well organised documentation 
> system.
>
> Okay, here are my questions:
> ---
> I finally found an easy way to insert computer language codes using:
> ```sql
> -- Retourne toutes les fiches dont le champ prenom commence par J 
> (Jacques, John):
> SELECT nom,
>prenom
> FROM client
> WHERE prenom LIKE 'J%'
> ```
> at first I used:
> <$codeblock code="SELECT * FROM users WHERE deleted = false" 
> language="sql" />
>
> My question is, what is the difference between these two approaches?
> --
> I would like to implement the "Icon - copy to clipboard" function that 
> will facilitate the grabbing of code snippets. I could not find anything 
> about it.
>
> My question is, how can I implement the copy to clipboard feature?
> ---
> I copied my TiddlyWiki in a sub-directory of a shared hosting I have. I 
> implemented a php saving approach. The TW is hard to find and this is good. 
> I do not mind if people have a look at the content (after all, sharing is 
> and should be the primary purpose of Internet). However, I would not 
> appreciate if some hooligan came and vandalised my site.
>
> My question is, how can I implement a password system so the editing of 
> tiddlers and access to the backend (control panel) is protected? I do not 
> want to use a static site generator since I use three different computes to 
> edit the site.
> ---
> I wrote a minimalistic surface converter (i.e. acre to square miles or 
> hectare ...) using a very small javascript and some html (table). I copied 
> the whole thing in a tiddler and it did not work. I got the infamous:
> Blocked script execution in '' because the document's frame is 
> sandboxed and the 'allow-scripts' permission is not set. For sure, 
> TiddlyWiki put the data of a tiddler in a sandbox iframe for security 
> reason. I do not want to change javascript and form permission for the 
> iframe.
>
> My question is, I can I implement this small but useful calculator?
> -
> Thank you to all of you
>
> Regards, 
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines

[Ste]

There is also http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/

On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 09:24:35 UTC arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

>  Check this Tweet 
>  or may be 
> dynalist 
> toolmap 
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 12:04:43 PM UTC+5:30 bimlas wrote:
>
>> PlantUML plugin  is 
>> able to display various diagrams, e.g. PlantUML Gantt chart 
>> . Use the text below to create a new 
>> tiddler in the plugin demo.
>>
>> <$plantuml source="""
>> @startgantt
>> [Prototype design] lasts 15 days
>> [Test prototype] lasts 10 days
>> -- All example --
>> [Task 1 (1 day)] lasts 1 day
>> [T2 (5 days)] lasts 5 days
>> [T3 (1 week)] lasts 1 week
>> [T4 (1 week and 4 days)] lasts 1 week and 4 days
>> [T5 (2 weeks)] lasts 2 weeks
>> @endgantt
>> """/>
>>
>>
>> wolf...@gmail.com a következőt írta (2020. december 23., szerda, 6:16:34 
>> UTC+1):
>>
>>> For those that like to plot history on timeline  how would you do it 
>>>
>>>
>>> My favorite kind timeline is  
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Grand_Unified_Timeline_of_Human_History/Roman_Empire
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines

[Ste]

There is also http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/

On Wednesday, 23 December 2020 at 09:24:35 UTC arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

>  Check this Tweet 
>  or may be 
> dynalist 
> toolmap 
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 12:04:43 PM UTC+5:30 bimlas wrote:
>
>> PlantUML plugin  is 
>> able to display various diagrams, e.g. PlantUML Gantt chart 
>> . Use the text below to create a new 
>> tiddler in the plugin demo.
>>
>> <$plantuml source="""
>> @startgantt
>> [Prototype design] lasts 15 days
>> [Test prototype] lasts 10 days
>> -- All example --
>> [Task 1 (1 day)] lasts 1 day
>> [T2 (5 days)] lasts 5 days
>> [T3 (1 week)] lasts 1 week
>> [T4 (1 week and 4 days)] lasts 1 week and 4 days
>> [T5 (2 weeks)] lasts 2 weeks
>> @endgantt
>> """/>
>>
>>
>> wolf...@gmail.com a következőt írta (2020. december 23., szerda, 6:16:34 
>> UTC+1):
>>
>>> For those that like to plot history on timeline  how would you do it 
>>>
>>>
>>> My favorite kind timeline is  
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Grand_Unified_Timeline_of_Human_History/Roman_Empire
>>>  
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.23

[Ste]

Hooray! Well that's my xmas day sorted.. The kids can do their own 
Christmas dinner ;) 
Thank you Jeremy and all.
Hope everyone has good Christmas! 
Ste
On Thursday, 24 December 2020 at 16:22:54 UTC saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> *If you are using the single file version of TiddlyWiki, you can upgrade 
> here:*
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
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[tw5] Git hub saver

[Ste]

I'm sure it's my own muppetry and that I'm trying to do this on my phone 
but, I can succesfully upload pre upgrade wiki but not post upgrade wiki to 
github using the git hub saving mechanism. I am getting a 404 error. Any 
one else finding this?

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[tw5] Re: Git hub saver

[Ste]

Just reread my own post.. Let me clarify... Using the git hub saving in 
tiddlywiki works in pre release but not from newly upgraded. This is true 
both with the file on my phone or the new file uploaded to git hub and 
trying the github saver from there. 
XMLHttpRequest error code: 401
Sorry. It's a 401. Not a 404.. I'm losing the plot.. Mulled wine time! 

On Thursday, 24 December 2020 at 19:10:55 UTC Ste wrote:

> I'm sure it's my own muppetry and that I'm trying to do this on my phone 
> but, I can succesfully upload pre upgrade wiki but not post upgrade wiki to 
> github using the git hub saving mechanism. I am getting a 404 error. Any 
> one else finding this?

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[tw5] Re: Git hub saver

[Ste]

Cheers Saq! 
Refilled in all fields and for some reason.. It works..! 


On Thursday, 24 December 2020 at 19:25:22 UTC Ste wrote:

> Just reread my own post.. Let me clarify... Using the git hub saving in 
> tiddlywiki works in pre release but not from newly upgraded. This is true 
> both with the file on my phone or the new file uploaded to git hub and 
> trying the github saver from there. 
> XMLHttpRequest error code: 401
> Sorry. It's a 401. Not a 404.. I'm losing the plot.. Mulled wine time! 
>
> On Thursday, 24 December 2020 at 19:10:55 UTC Ste wrote:
>
>> I'm sure it's my own muppetry and that I'm trying to do this on my phone 
>> but, I can succesfully upload pre upgrade wiki but not post upgrade wiki to 
>> github using the git hub saving mechanism. I am getting a 404 error. Any 
>> one else finding this?
>
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Re: [tw5] Compress JSON with JSONCRUSH

[Ste]

So could it be employed to get those tiddly sites in a link working 
consistently that we were playing with? If memory serves it stalled because 
of special chars in the url. Or did it get finesses and done and I just 
missed it! :)
On Tuesday, 15 December 2020 at 11:07:36 UTC jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just to add that the library is designed to encode/compress JSON so that 
> it can be more efficiently stored in URLs. It avoids characters that have 
> to be escaped when URI encoded. So it is not exactly a general purpose JSON 
> compression library; for that straightforward ZIP compression would seem to 
> make more sense.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 14 Dec 2020, at 21:52, TW Tones  wrote:
>
> Jan,
>
> I have recently being importing CSV files containing data, and generating 
> large plugins/JSON files with JSON Mangler. In this case a product 
> inventory from an online store.
>
> Whilst I can see value for compression/expansion of a JSON file on import 
> and export, when it is in the Wiki the main value is in being able to 
> access the (shadow) tiddlers within. Although if a wiki was to be a 
> repository of json data it would benefit from compression. 
>
> There is now the zip plugin in the pre-release of course.
>
> Interesting.
> Tones
>
> On Tuesday, 15 December 2020 at 02:49:47 UTC+11 Jan wrote:
>
>> Hi Tiddlywikians. 
>> I just encountered the a library which can verry efficiently reduce the 
>> size of JSON files. 
>>
>> https://github.com/KilledByAPixel/JSONCrush 
>>
>> So far I do not have a TW-usecase for this. But I want to share it with 
>> you because maybe someone else can build something with that. 
>>
>> Best wishes Jan 
>>
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[tw5] Re: How to create a new field and translate multiple values with a dictionary?

[Ste]

Mohammed's tiddly commander thing also allows batch operations. 
I'll try and dig out the link when I get chance of no one beats me to it. 
On Friday, 11 December 2020 at 10:54:48 UTC Eric Shulman wrote:

> Here's some sample filter logic for each of the conditions you want:
>
> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 8:52:42 PM UTC-8 Harry wrote:
>
>> I want to filter all entries born before 1948 (in the birth_year field) 
>> who has not died or been purged (in the c_status field), and assign them 
>> value "retired".
>>
>
> *birth_date < 1948 and not c_status=dead and not c_status=purged*
> <$button> assign retired
> <$list filter="[has[birth_year]]">
><$list 
> filter="[get[birth_year]compare:integer:lt[1948]then!c_status[dead]!c_status[purged]]">
>   <$action-setfield c_status="retired" />
>
> 
> 
>
> I would also appreciate general guidance on filtering field value of a 
>> certain numeric range (say greater than 1952, or between 1936 and 1978)
>>
>
> *birth_date > 1952*
> <$list filter="[has[birth_year]]">
><$list 
> filter="[get[birth_year]compare:integer:gt[1952]then]">
>   <>
>
> 
>
> *birth_date between 1936 and 1978 (inclusive)*
> <$list filter="[has[birth_year]]">
><$list 
> filter="[get[birth_year]compare:integer:gteq[1936]compare:integer:lteq[1978]then]">
>   <>
>
> 
>  
>
>> or value of a particular vector (say contains either 
>> 1,3,8,16,33,47,287,1345, etc, 
>>
>
> *somefield contains any of 1,3,8,16,33,47,287,1345,*
> <$list filter="[has[somefield]]">
><$list filter="[enlist[1 3 8 16 33 47 287 1345 
> ]match{!!somefield}then]">
>   <>
>
> 
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Showing off: Muuri StoryView 0.2.0 Prerelease

[Ste]

Hi.  Was just wondering if the mobile view could be set to toggle between 
on and two coloumns? 
On Sunday, 20 December 2020 at 15:54:57 UTC BurningTreeC wrote:

> @Saq,
>
> > what would be neat is if Muuri looked for a storyViewConfig tiddler 
> attribute on the list widget, and if it didn't exist used a default value 
> for the config tiddler.
>
> that would indeed be neat. should that storyViewConfig be a single tiddler 
> (like a data tiddler) or a namespace?
>
> > Then a layout with multiple stories could just specify a storyViewConfig 
> attribute for each extra stories list view, and if Muuri was used it would 
> be able to use that configTiddler. This way a layout does not need to know 
> if Muuri might be used, and installing Muuri would not necessitate editing 
> shadow tiddlers.
>
> understood, yes that would be great...
>
> In the meantime I've updated the plugin so that also the dragHandle and 
> the connectionSelector can be configured by a config tiddler
>
>
>
> saq.i...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2020 um 16:24:24 
> UTC+1:
>
>> @BTC what would be neat is if Muuri looked for a storyViewConfig tiddler 
>> attribute on the list widget, and if it didn't exist used a default value 
>> for the config tiddler.
>>
>> Then a layout with multiple stories could just specify a storyViewConfig 
>> attribute for each extra stories list view, and if Muuri was used it would 
>> be able to use that configTiddler. This way a layout does not need to know 
>> if Muuri might be used, and installing Muuri would not necessitate editing 
>> shadow tiddlers.
>>
>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 4:17:14 PM UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>> @Saq, right now almost every configuration for the main muuri story (the 
>>> one in the story river) is done using a config tiddler. Only the connection 
>>> with another Grid must be done with an attribute on the list widget. I 
>>> could make that also configurable using a config tiddler
>>>
>>> saq.i...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2020 um 14:47:11 
>>> UTC+1:
>>>
 @BTC yeah there isn't an obvious solution that comes to mind but I will 
 think about it. 

 I considered a config tiddler that is determined by the name of the 
 storylist, but that would preclude two muuri with the same storylist.

 On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 2:42:05 PM UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:

> Hi Saq,
>
> > In principle I quite like that the storyview gets its 
> attributes/settings from the ListWidget. In practice however this means 
> having to edit shadow tiddlers. I am wondering if there is way around 
> that...
>
> Yes that's the downside of it - I haven't found another way around it 
> but I'm open for ideas
>
> best wishes
>
> saq.i...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2020 um 14:37:09 
> UTC+1:
>
>> Looks good @BTC!
>>
>> Love the dragHandle support.
>>
>> In principle I quite like that the storyview gets its 
>> attributes/settings from the ListWidget. In practice however this means 
>> having to edit shadow tiddlers. I am wondering if there is way around 
>> that...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Saq
>>
>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 11:45:56 AM UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi TiddlyWiki folks,
>>>
>>> I want to show you my Muuri StoryView plugin version 0.2.0 
>>> Prerelease.
>>>
>>> It contains various Bugfixes and can overall be considered more 
>>> stable
>>>
>>> New Feature:
>>>
>>>- Drop Actions: actions triggered when dropping an item from one 
>>>grid into another grid
>>>   - the actionTiddler and modifier variables are available 
>>>   within the action-string, containing the title of the dragged 
>>> item 
>>>   respectively the modifier keys held while dragging
>>>
>>> Missing Feature:
>>>
>>>- A configuration panel. I'm currently overhauling it.
>>>
>>> You play with it at https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri
>>>
>>> On the Demo page there's a Sidebar Grid where you can drop tiddlers 
>>> into. Holding shift while dragging adds a tag to that Tiddler. Holding 
>>> ctrl-shift while dragging shifts the Tiddler to edit mode.
>>>
>>> That's just a Demo of what can be built with the Muuri StoryView.
>>>
>>> If we think about it - having a Muuri StoryView in the main river on 
>>> the left and having one or two Grids in the SideBar with some defined 
>>> dropActions makes the whole TiddlyWiki a Kanban on steroids :)
>>>
>>>
>>> As always, I'm open for critics and ideas, just leave me a post
>>>
>>> all the best, BTC
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How did you find Tiddlywiki?

[Ste]

Does the Google Analytics plugin not open tiddlywiki a to Google without 
going static? 
When enabled Analytics can tell me what tiddlers people have been to. 
Genuine question. I really don't know enough about these things. 

On Monday, 16 November 2020 at 20:50:18 UTC TW Tones wrote:

> Good Questions Mohammad
>
> TiddlyWiki.com does have static tiddlers already, hence why it can come up 
> in search engines however the links remain in the static environment rather 
> than opening the full wiki. Any one trying to reach out publicly that has 
> an internet hosted tiddlywiki should have the additional static tiddlers 
> which link back to the full wiki, and a splash screen when loading the full 
> wiki. We do not have a template for this or easy community solutions to do 
> this, they could be developed with haste.
>
> Generate static html websites that generate a zip file you can save to the 
> server host location, perhaps with appropriate search index file etc, then 
> decompress and its done, we then need a way to generate new zip file with 
> changes only since the last export date to post updated static pages only.
>
> Regardsa
> Tones
>
>
>
> On Monday, 16 November 2020 at 23:52:50 UTC+11 PMario wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 3:48:56 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> 1. Does GitHub repo need better keywords, description?
>>>
>>
>> may be
>>
>> 2. Is it required to have a demo website introducing Tiddlywiki in a 
>>> better way?
>>>
>>
>> I think we should have more regular presence on youtube, and may be 
>> different users should create their own "static site" blogs. 
>>  
>>
>>> 3. Is it required to use static website to be indexed by search engines?
>>>
>>
>> IMO this would be an advantage. I think goolge would prefer static sites.
>>
>> -mario
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The-Book Chapter 10

[Ste]

It was mentioned somewhere on here recently!
https://my-tw-notes.droppages.com/TheBook.pdf

On Thursday, 19 November 2020 at 18:28:25 UTC dieg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello! 
>
> Just a re-ping on this project! Does anyone know?
>
> On Saturday, July 25, 2020 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I just want to checkup on this wonderful project! Has it been completed?
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 2:37:37 AM UTC-6, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>>>
>>> After the Christmas stop I continue writing The-Book. I think is 
>>> important to include a little chapter with some architectural aspects of 
>>> Tiddlywiki.
>>> The attached pages contains the beginning.I saw the Tiddlywiki Hangout 
>>> 10 to fill the pages.
>>>
>>>
>>> * PLEASE:*
>>>
>>> * All experts in Tiddlywiki, check the table. If there is missing or bad 
>>> information, please tell me.
>>> * What more information do you think should be included in this chapter?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> The-Book keep moving forward.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Google Group New Interface

[Ste]

Yep...you have to go to the menu in the browser and click 'show desktop 
site'

On Thursday, 19 November 2020 at 18:22:43 UTC bimlas wrote:

> I know a thread has already been opened for the new forum somewhere, but I 
> can't find it, so here's one of the big negatives (I think): I can't write 
> a reply on Android because I don't have a button to press!
> Mohammad a következőt írta (2020. október 22., csütörtök, 7:38:45 UTC+2):
>
>> In the new interface we have missed some great features we have got used 
>> to. But it seems the new GG interface has brought some of them back.
>>
>> 1. Mark a post/message as favorite using star button at the right of post 
>> title and then see them under Starred conversation from left side bar
>>
>> 2. Label conversation like tag in previous version. Group admin has 
>> blocked this feature now, but if open you can label a message from top bar
>>
>> 3. To list all message labeled (tagged) say with Bob from left sidebar 
>> click on Labels and then click on Bob 
>>
>> 4. You can organize favorite groups into folder
>>
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[tw5] Re: Modal question (last question today, I promise)

[Ste]

Ah! Have looked! Very nice. Like a posher version of Jed's help 
Button macro! (it's somewhere from inmysocks). 

On Saturday, 7 November 2020 at 15:25:29 UTC David Gifford wrote:

> Here is what it looks like in practice. Click "Golden Rule, the" from the 
> articles tab. https://giffmex.org/experiments/asterisk.modal.nt1.html
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:02:36 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> I have been playing around with Eric's "hack" today. And I created an 
>> editortoolbar button to insert the macro.
>>
>> Used in conjunction with the Freelinks plugin, this appears to be a 
>> really great way to create and read content:
>>
>> 1. Create an article with minimal content, and add subordinate content 
>> that can be viewed in modals without leaving the originating tiddler. This 
>> is helpful since closing a target tiddler in some situations/view modes in 
>> TiddlyWiki does not take you back to the originating tiddler. 
>> 2. By inserting the macro with a button, and inputting the title, you 
>> create a 'link' that shows the tiddler in the modal if it exists, and you 
>> have a button in the modal to create the tiddler in edit mode if it does 
>> not.
>> 3. If you want links also without doing two separate steps, you can use 
>> the Freelinks plugin.
>>
>> Now if only the comptext plugin gave you autocomplete suggestions for 
>> this macro as it does for links...but even so, it is a great process for 
>> writing articles uncluttered by all the details, but giving instant access 
>> to those details without leaving the context of the article.
>>
>> Thanks again, Eric!
>>
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 6:06:18 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Any way to add a link to the tiddler after the title of the tiddler in a 
>>> modal? Or render the title as a link?
>>>
>>> I would like to make more use of modals, but I know some users will want 
>>> to click on a link in the modal to open up the actual tiddler, so they can 
>>> print, drag, edit, etc.
>>>
>>> I know it's as simple as copying the title and putting it in the search 
>>> window, but some people will not pick up on that...
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Modal question (last question today, I promise)

[Ste]

I may be way off here, I didn't really understand the queston, but here 
Is Jeds code for the help button which is what your link reminded me of. 

\define HelpButton(label, ButtonText:?)
^^(<$button popup="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$""" 
class='tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink'>$ButtonText$)<$reveal 
type='popup' state="""$:/temp/popup/$(currentTiddler)$/$label$"""><$transclude
 
field="""$label$"""/>^^
\end

On Saturday, 7 November 2020 at 18:48:07 UTC Ste wrote:

> Ah! Have looked! Very nice. Like a posher version of Jed's help 
> Button macro! (it's somewhere from inmysocks). 
>
> On Saturday, 7 November 2020 at 15:25:29 UTC David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Here is what it looks like in practice. Click "Golden Rule, the" from the 
>> articles tab. https://giffmex.org/experiments/asterisk.modal.nt1.html
>>
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:02:36 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> I have been playing around with Eric's "hack" today. And I created an 
>>> editortoolbar button to insert the macro.
>>>
>>> Used in conjunction with the Freelinks plugin, this appears to be a 
>>> really great way to create and read content:
>>>
>>> 1. Create an article with minimal content, and add subordinate content 
>>> that can be viewed in modals without leaving the originating tiddler. This 
>>> is helpful since closing a target tiddler in some situations/view modes in 
>>> TiddlyWiki does not take you back to the originating tiddler. 
>>> 2. By inserting the macro with a button, and inputting the title, you 
>>> create a 'link' that shows the tiddler in the modal if it exists, and you 
>>> have a button in the modal to create the tiddler in edit mode if it does 
>>> not.
>>> 3. If you want links also without doing two separate steps, you can use 
>>> the Freelinks plugin.
>>>
>>> Now if only the comptext plugin gave you autocomplete suggestions for 
>>> this macro as it does for links...but even so, it is a great process for 
>>> writing articles uncluttered by all the details, but giving instant access 
>>> to those details without leaving the context of the article.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Eric!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 6:06:18 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Any way to add a link to the tiddler after the title of the tiddler in 
>>>> a modal? Or render the title as a link?
>>>>
>>>> I would like to make more use of modals, but I know some users will 
>>>> want to click on a link in the modal to open up the actual tiddler, so 
>>>> they 
>>>> can print, drag, edit, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I know it's as simple as copying the title and putting it in the search 
>>>> window, but some people will not pick up on that...
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Empty: The size empty.html

[Ste]

Welcome back  Mohammad!
Diving in with some heavyweight thoughts!
Fit tiddlywiki on a floppy!...(I found some in an old lap top bag the other 
daynone of my students knew what it was.)
I've not been a party to the dev/ github discussions but as much as new and 
shiny appeals, losing say, tidgraph...NO.  But then my existing wiki 
isn't going anywhere I guess (at least now I have a backup from 
tiddlyspot!).
Or would it be a case of SOME things breaking, SOME things still working?  
How radical an overhaul is it?
Tiddlywiki classic, 5.1-classic and shiny...hmmm

Ste



On Tuesday, 3 November 2020 at 14:58:40 UTC Charlie Veniot wrote:

> I'm an instant fan of your thoughts.
>
> Your post makes me think of Linux  (Tiny Core Linux 
> <http://tinycorelinux.net/> and, even more so, the stripped-down version: 
> Micro Core Linux.)  It would be neat for TiddlyWiki to have a Debian-like 
> repository <https://packages.debian.org/stable/> and something akin to a 
> package manager.
>
> Yeah, I dream kind of grandiose...
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 3:00:21 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the 
>> recent releases. 
>> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One question 
>> is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the below table
>>
>> Release   Size (kb)
>> 5.1.12   1820
>> 5.1.15   2025
>> 5.1.17   2033
>> 5.1.19   2153
>> 5.1.21   2235
>> 5.1.22   2197
>> 5.1.12   2282
>>
>> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki  can be? 
>> Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different 
>> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, 
>> before going to have bigger empty.html
>>
>>
>> Suggestions
>> *A. Use official plugins*
>> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip 
>> everything extra)
>> 2. Put extra features in official plugins
>>
>> *B. Start a new generation *
>> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part)
>> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx
>> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes
>>
>> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest
>> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward 
>> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx
>> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile approach, 
>> like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi input 
>> filters)
>> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout
>> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved 
>> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub)
>> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding)
>> 6. ...
>>
>> I am sure people can suggest more here
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>> TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and 
>> solutions in Tiddlywiki
>> TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations on 
>> tiddlers
>> TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki 
>> trashbin tool
>> TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and 
>> bookmarking tool
>> TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, 
>> prioritize, and plan your work
>>
>> https://github.com/kookma
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Lightweight diagrams (e.g. concept maps)?

[Ste]

All for diagrams and drawings! I find myself using a variety of tools 
though as lot of packages don't do things like dimensions/ line lengths or 
a centre lineI basically want AutoCAD LT but for .svg 
:) https://editor.method.ac/ does in a pinch for simple stuff.  Bizarrely 
PowerPoint has quite robust drawing and line animation features these 
days!...reads back...GANTT charts you say?!  where?

On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 20:25:23 UTC Sean Boyle wrote:

> It feels silly replying to myself, but...
>
> Some possibilities are:
>
>- mxgraph - this is the basis for draw.io, which has a GUI,   A GUI 
>is not strictly necessary, but would be handy for some things - free
>- JointJS - Seems to support the usual diagram types, including BPMN 
>free
>- yEd - I really like the layout options, being able to import SVG 
>nodes.  It is free for any use, but if the underlying libraries (yFiles) 
>are to be used, they have commercial licencing..
>
> The trick is finding someone with the chops to be able to integrate 
> something like one of these, then stick around to update from time to 
> time.  I get the impression that most people are not really interested in 
> diagrams to sit alongside the notes in a tiddler.  The closest thing so far 
> is viz and railroad, which are both rather limited.
>
>
> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:26:00 AM UTC-7 Sean Boyle wrote:
>
>> Hi Victor,
>> Thanks for the reply!
>>
>> Yes, I tried out PlantUML (nice sequence diagram, btw).  I don't know if 
>> it is still that way, but it used to be that the drawing was pushed to an 
>> internet server for processing.  I'm more interested in something which is 
>> self-contained, especially since some of my diagrams could be considered 
>> sensitive, but in general I like self-contained solutions.  Some others 
>> which I have tried out are:
>> * Mermaid
>> * Graphviz
>> * Railroad
>> * Tidgraph
>> * edit in an external tool, render, and import the SVG (usually yEd)
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 6:54:19 AM UTC-7 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> there is also PlantUML: http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml
>>>
>>> I've used this for some proof-of-concept I was doing:
>>> https://tiddly.info/serverless#about
>>>
>>> KR, 
>>> Victor 
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 1:08:57 AM UTC+1 Sean Boyle wrote:
>>>
 Pinging this topic again.  It appears that diagramming plugins come, 
 then are abandoned.  I have taken to using graphviz (viz plugin) and it 
 works reasonably well (only a bit quirky) and if there were some 
 reasonable 
 ways of adding symbols for creating graphs such as flowchart, CORAS, BPMN, 
 sequence, communication diagrams, it would fulfill 90% of my needs.  
 Having 
 said that, are there any efforts out there for incorporating lightweight 
 graphing with extensible symbol sets, or diagramming?

 On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7 Sean Boyle wrote:

> I found that sequence diagrammes seem to copy / paste, but DAG and 
> GANTT do not.
>
>
> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 1:44:16 PM UTC-7, Sean Boyle wrote:
>>
>> My workaround is to use the online editor: 
>> https://mermaidjs.github.io/mermaid-live-editor/#/edit/eyJjb2RlIjoiZ3JhcGggVERcbkFbQ2hyaXN0bWFzXSAtLT58R2V0IG1vbmV5fCBCKEdvIHNob3BwaW5nKVxuQiAtLT4gQ3tMZXQgbWUgdGhpbmt9XG5DIC0tPnxPbmV8IERbTGFwdG9wXVxuQyAtLT58VHdvfCBFW2lQaG9uZV1cbkMgLS0-fFRocmVlfCBGW0Nhcl1cbiIsIm1lcm1haWQiOnsidGhlbWUiOiJkZWZhdWx0In19
>>  , 
>> save as SVG, import to TW, and transclude.  That seems to work OK for 
>> copy/paste to other windows.  It does seem to be a problem for other 
>> graphical stuff, like railroad diagrams.
>>
>> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 4:39:51 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao Sean
>>>
>>> I agree that Mermaid for TiddlyWiki is good. Its simple plain text 
>>> syntax is excellent and fits TW editing style very well. 
>>>
>>> Regarding the non-printability. That is a known issue with that type 
>>> of graphic rendering. I'm not sure that its easily fixable. The way I 
>>> get 
>>> round it if I need to print a Mermaid diagram is to take a screen 
>>> capture 
>>> save as a file and link to that image in the TW. Its too laborious a 
>>> method 
>>> for other than occasional use, but a work-around for limited cases.
>>>
>>> You are right: looks like its been basically abandoned. Part of the 
>>> issue is I think the author probably concluded that no one was 
>>> interested. 
>>> He has other good graphic tools that equally haven't got much notice.
>>>
>>> As far as I can see it needs a bit of tweeking -- one issue I 
>>> sometimes encountered was getting the text to fit properly. But the 
>>> core is 
>>> there and functional.
>>>
>>> As far as getting the plugin revised. I dunno. I don't have skill 

[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Ste]

Well thats some good news!

On Thursday, 29 October 2020 at 07:29:57 UTC Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 4:08:56 PM UTC-7, FFT wrote:
>>
>> Site is working once again.
>>
>
> Note that TiddlySpot is currently READ-ONLY.
>
> You can access your TiddlySpot site(s), but you cannot save any updates to 
> TiddlySpot.  In addition, neither the download link (e.g. 
> http://mysite.tiddlyspot.com/download) nor the backup directory (e.g. 
> http://mysite.tiddlyspot.com/backup) are available.
>
> To save a local copy of your TiddlySpot site, open the $:/ControlPanel 
> "Saving", "TiddlySpot Saver" tab and clear the Wiki Name and/or Password 
> input.  Then, when you press the save button in the sidebar, it will 
> trigger the TWCore standard "Download Saver" handling.
>
> -e
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Are there any alternatives to the mermaid.js plugin?

[Ste]

There is rail road diagrams in the core or at least an official plugin. Not 
sure if that would help? 
On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 20:59:27 UTC+1 si wrote:

> Hi TT,
>
> Yes I will add more detail.
>
> I currently use mermaid to quickly add graphs while I'm writing. I only 
> use it for basic graphs like this:
>
>
> I love TiddlyMap but it is not practical for making a lot of small graphs. 
> The above graph can be written really quickly and easily in the mermaid 
> language.
>
> Si.
>
> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:31:30 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Its buggy. Its not maintained. It is a shame :-(.
>>
>> If TiddlyMap  won't do as a replacement then you 
>> maybe need to say a bit more.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:19:29 UTC+2, si wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been using the mermaid plugin 
>>>  to draw simple networks/graphs 
>>> in my wiki. It's nice because it's super quick to use.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it's pretty buggy and has not been updated to the latest 
>>> version of mermaid for a while.
>>>
>>> Anyone know of any alternatives options out there?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tufte-like sidenotes: generate random ids

[Ste]

Tufte looks interesting!
 

On Tuesday, 3 November 2020 at 23:28:16 UTC Anjar wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> Some of you may be familiar with Edward Tufte (
> https://edwardtufte.github.io/tufte-css/), and I think his sidenote 
> approach can be useful in TiddlyWiki as well if one wants to add comments 
> to the contents of a tiddler. I tried to make a simple macro which work 
> fairly well, but to make a new number for each comment, I need to generate 
> a unique ID for it. Is this possible or do I need another approach? For 
> example, I added highlighting on hover which may reduce the need for unique 
> identifiers., but it would still be nice for say printing. 
>
> \define comment(txt)
>  class="margin-toggle sidenote-number">
> 
>  id="sn-demo"
> class="margin-toggle"/>$txt$
> \end
>
> 
> .comment:hover .sidenote {
> background-color: yellow;
> }
>
> input.margin-toggle {
> display: none;
> }
>
> label.sidenote-number {
> display: inline;
> }
>
> label.margin-toggle:not(.sidenote-number) {
> display: none;
> }
>
> .sidenote,
> .marginnote {
> float: right;
> clear: right;
> margin-right: -60%;
> width: 50%;
> margin-top: 0.3rem;
> margin-bottom: 0;
> font-size: 1.1rem;
> line-height: 1.3;
> vertical-align: baseline;
> position: relative;
> }
>
> .sidenote-number {
> counter-increment: sidenote-counter;
> }
>
> .sidenote-number:after,
> .sidenote:before {
> font-family: et-book-roman-old-style;
> position: relative;
> vertical-align: baseline;
> }
>
> .sidenote-number:after {
> content: counter(sidenote-counter);
> font-size: 1rem;
> top: -0.5rem;
> left: 0.1rem;
> }
>
> .sidenote:before {
> content: counter(sidenote-counter) " ";
> font-size: 1rem;
> top: -0.5rem;
> }
> 
>
> This<> is an<> example< "right?">>
>
>
> Best,
> Anders
>

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[tw5] Re: Next features in Projectify?

[Ste]

I might be missing something but for projects I would want to be able to 
set a future start date and duration/ finish date. 
And a Gantt chart! :) (vis.js timeline?)


On Wednesday, 6 January 2021 at 17:22:44 UTC Nicolas Petton wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I have now implemented all the features I really care about in
> Projectify (https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/projectify.html), so I was
> wondering what other people might miss in the plugin.
>
> On my todo-list I have the following (in no particular order):
>
> * Add support for recurring tasks
> * Add support for project templates (to be used when creating new
> projects)
> * Make project card colours customizable
> * Add documentation about implementing specific workflows (GTD setup, etc.)
> * Add support for filtering by tags in the project list/cards
> * Add a search input for filtering the project list/cards
> * Add a kanban view
>
> Is there anything else you think should be added to the plugin? Anything
> from the list above that should be prioritized?
>
> Thanks!
> Nico
>

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[tw5] Re: Comment: The centrality of MORPHING

[Ste]

Couldn't let a discussion of morph pass without a link to some plasticine 
goodness from the past
https://youtu.be/cmir5jwOMes

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 23:03:04 UTC TW Tones wrote:

> TT,
>
> Perhaps you could extend your definition of morphing, in this context?
>
> I would be more to think of shuffling and arranging things, including 
> relationships. But the UI also helps me present or represent information 
> and data many ways.
>
> Yes, more flexible than we can even imagine.
>
> Tones
> On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 20:31:57 UTC+11 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> I been thinking about what TW in practice is for me. Basically it seems 
>> to be about human-enabled-Morphing. Its flex is pretty astounding.
>>
>> Just a comment.
>> TT
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Habit/Mood Tracking using TW?

[Ste]

@bluespire
 i just did a quick search for that to have a look but just found lots of 
gold mining sites... Off topic.. But. Tiddlywiki the name doesn't have that 
problem :)

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 20:05:41 UTC bluespire wrote:

> The Trilium project is similar to TW5, and also allows scripts within its 
> note blocks. They have a weight tracker as part of their example. IIRC, one 
> note has the code to the read the metadata of other notes (these are 
> analogous to the fields on TW5), and then graph the weight over time.
>
> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 3:23:57 AM UTC-6 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> TonyM & Manish
>>
>> TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> ... with Unicode Characters I saw a lot of emoticons, thinking 
>>>
>>
>> I certainly agree we could innovate on "Tracking" toolology.
>>
>> For instance a "toggle" button that selected a specific emoticon to 
>> express a state of being, as Tones implies.
>>
>> Also, Mat, some time ago provided a proof of concept of using the SVG 
>> editor to annotate another SVG. For instance have an anatomical SVG of a 
>> typical  back and mark where the pain is. 
>>
>> I think the real point is to simply define what the needs are on 
>> "Tracking" and kick it about a bit more.
>>
>> IMO TW is very well suited to develop the whole "Track my state" thing 
>> even better than it currently does.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] [Plugin] Presenting TW5-Uglify! Plugin compression the TiddlyWIki way!

[Ste]

Uglified TW 5.1.24 is 1297 kB 
Time to get out the floppy disks... 
On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 17:32:41 UTC TiddlyTweeter wrote:

>  Flibbles wrote:
>
>> The freezing on modification is one issue I'm not sure what to do with. 
>> Apparently TW5 *completely rerenders itself* after every change, and 
>> without modifying the core, I don't think there's a way for Uglify to 
>> recognize the difference between a rendering from a change, and rendering 
>> because TW is saving to disk. 
>>
>
> *""Freezing" is NOT a problem I think! *So long as the user knows they *have 
> to wait *they won't conclude it is a crash. And I WAS aware I might need 
> to wait from the docs you provided already, so, no sweat. Though one thing 
> that users maybe need fully grasp is its use is a *one-way-ticket*. It 
> only needs to go to work once and you are done!
>
> Great piece of work!
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Tamasha Presentation Plugin [planned for early Feb]

[Ste]

But.. We have only just had Christmas.. It can't be December already! 
I'll have a look at this as I made good use of tiddlyshow! 

On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 04:51:16 UTC TW Tones wrote:

> Looks Promising Mohammad, thanks for you continuing contributions.
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 at 14:26:23 UTC+11 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tamasha is a pure wikitext (pure Tiddlywiki scripts no JS) plugin for 
>> presentation and slideshow.
>> The idea was taken from my older plugin Tiddlyshow (
>> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/)
>>
>> The reason to develop another presentation plugin was to have a simpler 
>> and a more natural TW plugin. Tamasha is around 20kb and has many features 
>> of MS Powerpoint and Google Slides and Beamer LaTeX. The other reason was 
>> the increasing need of such tools for my own online classes. The lectures 
>> can be distributed simply as a single or few Tiddlywiki files.
>>
>> To shine your ideas buried in tiddlers just tag them and fire your 
>> presentation by calling a small macro whenever you want. A tiddler can be 
>> part of several presentations.
>> You can even have two or more presentations in a single tiddler just by 
>> calling the presenter macro several times with different settings.
>>
>> It supports almost all Tiddlywiki features, and works with most plugins 
>> and themes, e.g. KaTeX, Highlight.js, Shiraz, Streams, Todolist, Notebook, 
>> Projectify, ...
>> Tamasha supports templates (to customize what to display) and themes 
>> (fonts, colors and fancy things,...)
>> Like all commercial presentation software, it supports keyboard shortcuts 
>> for navigation, ...
>>
>> I plan to add features like export a presentation to PDF, export to zip 
>> file, zooming and online annotation and laser pointer, ...
>>
>> I have attached a small video to present the under development Tamasha.
>>
>> I like to *get your feedback* in advance to see what you like to have in 
>> a presentation plugin. Share with me your wish list.
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyMenu

[Ste]

That's cool! :)

On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 14:32:09 UTC Anjar wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just made a minimalistic setup for a "menu landing page"; home is just a 
> grid with menu items that takes you to a full width tiddler. The menu items 
> are simply tiddlers tagged with "Menu" where the title becomes the link text
>
> Demo: http://andjar.github.io/TiddlyMenu
> Code: https://github.com/andjar/TiddlyMenu
>
>
> Best,
> Anders
>

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[tw5] Re: Just a wee token of appreciation

[Ste]

Awww, TY :D
On Saturday, 9 January 2021 at 14:14:41 UTC Charlie Veniot wrote:

> I'm feeling in a mood of appreciation this morn', so I figured I ought to 
> scratch that itch.
>
> *Thank-you all for your quite fantastic contributions to this community.*
>
> In case this kind of thing floats anybody else's boat as much as it floats 
> mine, I share one of my favourite little gems on the web:  The Little 
> Book of Contentment 
> .
>
> Although 2021 offers a bright lite at the end of the covid-19 tunnel, it 
> feels a bit like 2020 is still so frigging clingy.  Maybe fun little reads 
> can offer happy little distractions?
>
> Cheers !
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: RemNote

[Ste]

It does look very TiddlyWiki doesn't it!

On Sunday, 10 January 2021 at 13:06:43 UTC arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Ander,
>
> I couldn't find much in this page  
> https://github.com/rvasoya/PDFAnnotation.
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 8:47 AM Anjar  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the heads up! A plugin for PDF annotations sounds useful for 
>> TiddlyWiki too - say a tiddler per comment - it doesn't seem to complicated 
>> either, see https://github.com/rvasoya/PDFAnnotation
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Anders
>>
>> lørdag 9. januar 2021 kl. 18:16:48 UTC+1 skrev arunnn...@gmail.com:
>>
>>> Remnote is getting launched in product hunt on January 13th. Remnote 
>>> launched a pro version two days back with subscription plans. Highlight of 
>>> the latest update is inbuilt pdf annotation. For details check out this 
>>> page.
>>> Remnote update page 
>>> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 10:35:35 AM UTC+5:30 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Is RemNote inspired by Tiddlywiki or is a Tiddlywiki customized edition?

 See

 https://www.remnote.io/document/sfmopXEDNmphepu48
 https://www.remnote.io/


 As Kebi stated, his TiddlyResearch is inspired from RemNote. The 
 similarity is amazing

 --Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Release: Muuri StoryView v0.2.0

[Ste]

Yay! One column in mobile view! Ty! 


On Sunday, 3 January 2021 at 13:19:41 UTC BurningTreeC wrote:

> >Editor toolbar buttons have a condition field that must be fulfilled to 
> display the button. Perhaps something similar for Page Toolbar buttons 
> would be useful.
>
> @Saq, yes you're right, that would be useful. Maybe we can get that into 
> the core ... :)
>
> best wishes,
> Simon
>
> saq.i...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 3. Januar 2021 um 14:06:09 UTC+1:
>
>> Random quick thought.
>>
>> Editor toolbar buttons have a condition field that must be fulfilled to 
>> display the button. Perhaps something similar for Page Toolbar buttons 
>> would be useful.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 1:20:08 PM UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>>> I've released the Muuri StoryView v0.2.2 with some additions and fixes,
>>>
>>> see the Changelog: 
>>> https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri/#Changelog
>>>
>>> BurningTreeC schrieb am Sonntag, 3. Januar 2021 um 13:05:44 UTC+1:
>>>
 Ahoi Jan,

 >Two tiny ideas: 
 >-It would be good if the PageControls-Icons would automatically 
 dissappear when the muuri-view is not active. 
 >-Otherwise the switch for the number of collummns could be used to 
 activate muuri at the first click if it had not been active before

 These are good ideas and I could imagine to consider the second one for 
 the plugin. I already tried the first one and it seemed unpractical to me 
 because the buttons still showed up under the "Tools" Tab but without 
 icons...
 I'll give your second idea a test-drive

 best wishes,
 Simon

 Jan schrieb am Sonntag, 3. Januar 2021 um 12:35:45 UTC+1:

> Ahoi Simon!
>
> The Kanban will come as a separate plugin the next days or so 
>
>
> That is a good idea! I just started puzzeling what is needed to get 
> this to work... I guess I will wait then. 
>
> Two tiny ideas: 
> -It would be good if the PageControls-Icons would automatically 
> dissappear when the muuri-view is not active. 
> -Otherwise the switch for the number of collummns could be used to 
> activate muuri at the first click if it had not been active before. 
>
> Best wishes Jan
>
>
> >I wanted to create a git hub account for some time...now you got my 
> first star ever ;-)
>
> Then I say thank you for the star!
>
> Simon
>
> Jan schrieb am Sonntag, 3. Januar 2021 um 12:04:44 UTC+1:
>
>> Hey Simon,
>> A gorgeous KanBan-Design. 
>> I wanted to create a git hub account for some time...now you got my 
>> first star ever ;-)
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> Am 01.01.2021 um 21:01 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>>
>> I hereby announce the release of the *Muuri StoryView* plugin 
>> version 0.2.0
>>
>> The Demo page with installation instructions can be found at:
>>
>> https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri
>>
>> The GitHub repository is located at 
>> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/tiddlywiki-muuri
>>
>>
>> For issues please consider leaving me an issue over at GitHub or here 
>> in this Google Groups thread
>>
>> If you have questions about the usage or ideas for the next release 
>> please leave me a comment here
>>
>> I hope someone finds this plugin useful,
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Project Name

[Ste]

I think I'm with a gentle drift away from the tiddly to TWsomething. It 
could just become the initials... Kentucky Fried Chicken is now just KFC. 
TWP could be Tiddly Wiki Platform.. Total Wiki.. Transformational Word 
Producer... 
As others have said.. I don't think the name is the biggest hurdle.. But 
'What do I do with this thing and how do I do it?' might be... 

On Thursday, 31 December 2020 at 17:54:50 UTC coda coder wrote:

> Meant to add...
>
> Cards? Hypercard used cards... and how old is that? Predates the web by 
> almost 10 years. 
>
> @Jeremy I appreciate your point about the conversation inevitably reducing 
> to name--offerings, but the deeper, more fundamental and technical stuff 
> should happen "in another place", surely?
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 11:24:59 AM UTC-6 taale...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> So, what if we create a place other than here (n Tiddlywiki.com?) for 
>> possible names, so we have somewhere to brainstorm without bogging down the 
>> list?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 10:02 AM PMario  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, 
>>> At first I thought xememex is complicated, but then I thought about it. 
>>> I did play a little bit with it. 
>>>
>>> As wikipedia tells us: memex is a hypthetical thing 
>>> , It may come from "memory ex
>>> tension",
>>> Quote: "The memex would provide an "enlarged intimate supplement to 
>>> one's memory"." ... I think that's just a different description for TW. 
>>>
>>> xememex could be the "Next electronical memory extension". As Jeremy 
>>> told us, this name has an interesting "feature". We can read it forward and 
>>> backward. 
>>>
>>> xememex .. or ..  xememexnice! right? 
>>>
>>> We nickname TiddlyWiki with TW or TW5  
>>>
>>> We can nickname xememex as meX ... Which for me would be: me eXtended .(I 
>>> do like this one ;) 
>>>
>>> *Conclusion for me:*
>>>
>>> Tiddlers can be renamed to: Cards 
>>>
>>> xememex.com can be the organisation
>>>
>>> "xememex ToolBox" can be the product. ... Short: meX 
>>>
>>> and xememex can be a "word mark" / logo ... IMO if the first 2 letters 
>>> are greyed out a little bit, it's much easier to read.  
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents about the name. 
>>>
>>> -mario
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Project Name

[Ste]

@Mark S
Quite quintessential?! 

On Thursday, 31 December 2020 at 19:43:47 UTC Mark S. wrote:

> Quinessence
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 9:50:32 AM UTC-8 HP wrote:
>
>> I chip in: Quinely
>>
>> No software found with this name. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 6:24:59 PM UTC+1 taale...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, what if we create a place other than here (n Tiddlywiki.com?) for 
>>> possible names, so we have somewhere to brainstorm without bogging down the 
>>> list?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 10:02 AM PMario  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, 
 At first I thought xememex is complicated, but then I thought about it. 
 I did play a little bit with it. 

 As wikipedia tells us: memex is a hypthetical thing 
 , It may come from "memory ex
 tension",
 Quote: "The memex would provide an "enlarged intimate supplement to 
 one's memory"." ... I think that's just a different description for 
 TW. 

 xememex could be the "Next electronical memory extension". As Jeremy 
 told us, this name has an interesting "feature". We can read it forward 
 and 
 backward. 

 xememex .. or ..  xememexnice! right? 

 We nickname TiddlyWiki with TW or TW5  

 We can nickname xememex as meX ... Which for me would be: me eXtended .(I 
 do like this one ;) 

 *Conclusion for me:*

 Tiddlers can be renamed to: Cards 

 xememex.com can be the organisation

 "xememex ToolBox" can be the product. ... Short: meX 

 and xememex can be a "word mark" / logo ... IMO if the first 2 letters 
 are greyed out a little bit, it's much easier to read.  

 Just my 2 cents about the name. 

 -mario

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[tw5] Re: Release: Muuri StoryView v0.2.0

[Ste]

@BTC
Your a muuri machine! Buttery smooth once more! 

On Thursday, 7 January 2021 at 17:05:43 UTC BurningTreeC wrote:

> Hi @Ste, I've released the *Muuri plugin v0.2.7 *and the *Muuri-Kanban 
> plugin v0.1.6*
>
> both are bugfix releases and also the bug you reported should be fixed
>
> best wishes,
> BTC
> BurningTreeC schrieb am Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2021 um 09:02:38 UTC+1:
>
>>
>> @Ste, I can confirm this is a bug. I'll see what I can do to fix it
>> Ste schrieb am Donnerstag, 7. Januar 2021 um 00:06:35 UTC+1:
>>
>>> Just had a quick look on my phone and moving anything freezes it in 
>>> place and it kind of.. Judders before a RSOE
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 6 January 2021 at 09:27:05 UTC BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've *updated* both the *Muuri *and the *Muuri-Kanban* plugins to 
>>>> version v0.2.6 and v0.1.4 respectively
>>>>
>>>> For the Muuri plugin I've added the option to auto-save after dragging 
>>>> and I've fixed the bug @Sylvain mentioned above (grid dimensions not 
>>>> refreshing when window dimensions change)
>>>>
>>>> For the Muuri-Kanban plugin I've added the auto-save configuration 
>>>> option in the plugin-config (works only with the Muuri plugin v0.2.6 and 
>>>> above) and updated some styles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> best wishes,
>>>> BTC
>>>>
>>>> TW Tones schrieb am Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2021 um 00:18:30 UTC+1:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you BTC,
>>>>>
>>>>> Very nice. I need to use this for some big decisions shortly, Lets see 
>>>>> if I can share the methods I use.
>>>>>
>>>>> The option to add more buttons, need only be a hack, its the 
>>>>> possibility for a designer to add additional handling to cards and 
>>>>> columns 
>>>>> that's needed,  they can take responsibility for spacing etc...
>>>>>
>>>>>- Such a customisation may be as little as a tick button, or a 
>>>>>help icon etc...
>>>>>- Personally I use muuri and Kanban on a large screen, so I have 
>>>>>plenty of real-estate.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I believe Muuri can achieve that other layouts can't, is to 
>>>>> support "large, single or multiple 'pain of glass' dashboard's", given 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> versatility of content in tiddlers, including iFrames to other sites and 
>>>>> resources that a Muuri could be used in NOC's (Network Operating Centres) 
>>>>> or Operation centre for space or traffic control.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Tones
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 5 January 2021 at 20:00:56 UTC+11 BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks @Tones,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The top drop area will be at the bottom in the next update
>>>>>> I'll add a link button to open an item in the StoryRiver
>>>>>> I'll also make the  show conditionally if the item contains text 
>>>>>> and style it a bit more simple
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the option to add more buttons: I'd like to keep it as simple 
>>>>>> as possuble since space is limited on those items and they shouldn't 
>>>>>> cover 
>>>>>> too much space.
>>>>>> Showing the subtitle though is an option I'll think about
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 5. Januar 2021 um 03:50:44 UTC+1:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTC,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great stuff. I particularly like your Kanban and like the way you 
>>>>>>> are leveraging the history for "compound tiddlers". 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really like the way you handle various drag and drop handling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>- Although the top + area to start new columns is great, after 
>>>>>>>building my board, I would like to be able to hide it, or toggle it, 
>>>>>>> or 
>>>>>>>perhaps move it to the bottom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other possible improvements from my perspective
>>>>>>>
>>>>>&

Re: [tw5] Can Latex (Katex) plugin do normal text?

[Ste]

You should get tiddlywiki up on https://katex.org/users.html! 


On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 18:40:57 UTC Ste wrote:

> Thank you! 
>
> On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 15:19:52 UTC jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Ste
>>
>>
>> On 31 Jan 2021, at 12:18, Ste  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On the subject of KaTeX... Jeremy... can you update the plunging to the 
>> latest version pleaaase? 
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the prompt. I’ve updated the plugin to KaTeX v0.12.0 here:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/f2aba29d94cddcff6d7c188c4aa0b668995d8002
>>
>> You can try it out here:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
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[tw5] Re: Tamasha Presentation Plugin [planned for early Feb]

[Ste]

Excellent update. All slides are now readable in full on my phone/ portrait 
mode! 

On Monday, 1 February 2021 at 13:47:39 UTC coda coder wrote:

> STARRED.
>
> Very clean, very impressive.
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:02:54 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tamasha app and plugin has got a new beta update. This is only for test 
>> purposes!
>>
>> See Tamasha 0.4.2 
>>
>> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Tamasha
>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Tamasha/
>>
>> Feb 1st, 2021
>>
>> [NEW] slide background color for individual tiddler was added
>> [FIXED] cleanup CSS and user interface
>> [FIXED] the progressbar macro was merged with progressbar ui
>> [FIXED] the progressbar show correct percent for first slide
>> [FIXED] all navigation macros included go home and goe end were put in 
>> the single tiddler $:/plugins/kookma/tamasha/macros/navigator
>>
>> *Please star it, if you like it.*
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 6:55 AM Mohammad Rahmani  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tamasha is a pure wikitext (pure Tiddlywiki scripts no JS) plugin for 
>>> presentation and slideshow.
>>> The idea was taken from my older plugin Tiddlyshow (
>>> https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/)
>>>
>>> The reason to develop another presentation plugin was to have a simpler 
>>> and a more natural TW plugin. Tamasha is around 20kb and has many features 
>>> of MS Powerpoint and Google Slides and Beamer LaTeX. The other reason was 
>>> the increasing need of such tools for my own online classes. The lectures 
>>> can be distributed simply as a single or few Tiddlywiki files.
>>>
>>> To shine your ideas buried in tiddlers just tag them and fire your 
>>> presentation by calling a small macro whenever you want. A tiddler can be 
>>> part of several presentations.
>>> You can even have two or more presentations in a single tiddler just by 
>>> calling the presenter macro several times with different settings.
>>>
>>> It supports almost all Tiddlywiki features, and works with most plugins 
>>> and themes, e.g. KaTeX, Highlight.js, Shiraz, Streams, Todolist, Notebook, 
>>> Projectify, ...
>>> Tamasha supports templates (to customize what to display) and themes 
>>> (fonts, colors and fancy things,...)
>>> Like all commercial presentation software, it supports keyboard 
>>> shortcuts for navigation, ...
>>>
>>> I plan to add features like export a presentation to PDF, export to zip 
>>> file, zooming and online annotation and laser pointer, ...
>>>
>>> I have attached a small video to present the under development Tamasha.
>>>
>>> I like to *get your feedback* in advance to see what you like to have 
>>> in a presentation plugin. Share with me your wish list.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Can Latex (Katex) plugin do normal text?

[Ste]

Thank you! 

On Sunday, 31 January 2021 at 15:19:52 UTC jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Ste
>
>
> On 31 Jan 2021, at 12:18, Ste  wrote:
>
>
> On the subject of KaTeX... Jeremy... can you update the plunging to the 
> latest version pleaaase? 
>
>
> Thanks for the prompt. I’ve updated the plugin to KaTeX v0.12.0 here:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/f2aba29d94cddcff6d7c188c4aa0b668995d8002
>
> You can try it out here:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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Re: [tw5] Can Latex (Katex) plugin do normal text?

[Ste]

A full list of supported katex functions can be found here
https://katex.org/docs/supported.html

If you want to use latex without the hassle of installing can I suggest 
overleaf.com? 

On the subject of KaTeX... Jeremy... can you update the plunging to the 
latest version pleaaase? 

Ste

On Friday, 29 January 2021 at 11:59:51 UTC jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> As I understand it, the KaTeX plugin only supports the parts of LaTeX for 
> mathematical notation, and not the full functionality.
>
> By the way, one wouldn’t generally need to use the <$latex> widget 
> directly, instead one can use the $$ syntax:
>
> $$
> f(x) = \int_{-\infty}^\infty\hat f(\xi)\,e^{2 \pi i \xi x}\,d\xi
> $$
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 29 Jan 2021, at 11:20, 'JWHoneycutt' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have a research fellow who uses Latex to make beautiful documents on a 
> Windows PC using some IDE (Integrated Development Environment).
>
> I would like to know if the Latex/Katex plugin can handle "plain" text (no 
> math or chemistry notation) on my MacOS (10.15) with Tiddlywiki (5.1.23). 
> Taking examples from the founding textbook of Latex: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bsh3m6edv09mcuu/Knuth_The-TeXBook.pdf?dl=0 does 
> not seem to work.
>
> 1) I copy a block of code into a tiddler
>
> 2) Wrap the block inside <$latex text=""" ... """ 
> displayMode="true">
>
> 3) Occasionally, I get red text (which means I am using an illegal code?)
>
> JWHoneycutt
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Re: [tw5] Re: [Update] Tamasha Presentation Plugin

[Ste]

Thanks Mo, 
I'll have a play with that code tomorrow. 

Ste

On Wednesday, 3 February 2021 at 19:57:16 UTC Nicolas Petton wrote:

> Mohammad Rahmani  writes:
>
> >> If the font sizes are relative to vh, it surprises me that
> >> on the bigger resolution screen (3000x2000) the text reaches near to the
> >> bottom edge,
> >> while on the smaller resolution screen (1366x768px) the text does not 
> grow
> >> that large.
> >> I attach the 2 screenshots.
> >>
> >>
> > May be @Nico can explain this better, but font size scaled based on 
> height
> > not width!
>
> There's still some tweaking to be done, adjusting font sizes and line
> heights based on viewport dimensions can be a bit tricky, especially
> because ideally you'd want to display the same amount of lines per slide
> in "author" (normal) mode and "presentation" (full-screen) mode.
>
> The code in the main branch on GitHub should handle various viewport
> dimensions a bit better, but I haven't tried on very large displays like
> 3000x2000px.
>
> Cheers,
> Nico
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Re: [tw5] Tamasha Presentation Plugin [planned for early Feb]

[Ste]

Hi Mohammed
JD's white space theme (I think) has that hover over and disappear effect 
your looking for. I have no clue how he achieved it... M

On Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 19:56:53 UTC Nicolas Petton wrote:

> Mohammad Rahmani  writes:
>
> > Hope someone come with a solution (of course without JS)
>
> Why not use a bit of JavaScript there? Are you trying to avoid
> JavaScript for some reason?
>
> Cheers,
> Nico
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[tw5] Re: Bag Tag?

[Ste]

Bags and recipe's?! 

On Saturday, 30 January 2021 at 04:49:24 UTC PMario wrote:

> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 8:13:41 PM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> PMario wrote:
>>
>>> The "bag - field" is internally used by the TiddlyWeb adaptor. ... 
>>> "bags" and "recipes" where used by TiddlySpace, which doesn't exist 
>>> anymore. .. 
>>>
>>
>> Ha! I just tried adding a field called "*bag*" to a TW in the editor. It 
>> won't accept it. I assume we are honoring TiddlySpace legacy in that 
>> behavior?
>>
>
> Not really. ... The "bag" and "recipe" mechanism is still a valid concept 
> that works with the right backend. ... and it works with TW5. So it's there 
> for compatibility reasons. 
> -mario
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly as a knowledge base alternative to Jira and Wikimedia or blogs for software technical deocumentation

[Ste]

Dare I utter the word.. Twederation? 
https://github.com/inmysocks/TW5-TWederation

On Saturday, 30 January 2021 at 17:05:25 UTC ludwa6 wrote:

> Hey @charlie: you may have lost a job, but i suspect your career is far 
> from over.  Tell ya what, mate: if you could tweak that ORM-ish TiddlyWiki 
> in such a way that users of your system documentation could easily 
> contribute edits or even comments-in-context, i suspect you would find the 
> sponsorship that you seek tout-de-suite!  ;-)
>
> /walt
>
> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 2:36:48 PM UTC cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Holy moly, I am extremely emotional all of a sudden.
>>
>> In my 25-year career, unceremoniously terminated last December, I never 
>> felt anybody at any level up the chain really had any clue what kind of 
>> work I did.  It never mattered much because the job itself was 
>> oh-so-gratifying in every possible way, and my occasional celebratory 
>> self-pats on the back easily sustained me.
>>
>> I am not used to having any kind of recognition for "job well done", and 
>> definitely not in such a glowing way.  I am stunned, and that is just about 
>> the greatest gift anybody has ever given me.  In my French-Acadian way, I'd 
>> say the sensation is: "Taberslack! Tcheu moseusse de caresse!".  (i.e. 
>> "Wow!  That is some compliment!")
>>
>> So thank-you, big time.  (I've been busy polishing up my résumé and 
>> trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up.  I must get back to 
>> my "ORM-ish à la TiddlyWiki 
>> " 
>> project.)
>>
>> All of that aside: I was once told that I "coddled" my users too much.  
>> Well, take care of the little guys in the trenches (i.e. their needs), and 
>> you can take that hill.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 10:02:19 AM UTC-4 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> @charlie: clearly you speak as one who's been around this loop a good 
>>> few times already, and your advice about engaging a "lead visionary" 
>>> (custodian/ librarian/ evangelist) is right-on, IMHO.
>>>
>>> Moreover: I think that work you shared in an earlier thread 
>>>  is an 
>>> awe-inspiring display of mastery over a number of skill-sets that such a 
>>> project lead would do very well to have, including Information 
>>> Architecture, Relational Database Modelling, advanced TW5 interface design, 
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> All that being said: what you've built there is (to invoke ESR's 
>>> immortal metaphor) a Cathedral, not a Bazaar... And i wonder to what extent 
>>> such an application might serve the needs of users in the context that 
>>> Cedric describes. 
>>>
>>> Bottom line: i think Charlie's closing point is really the clincher: 
>>> whatever it is that users will actually find helpful (as indicated not by 
>>> what they say up front, but what they actually do after the fact!) is what 
>>> will carry the day.  So it is that i've had to swallow the bitter pill of 
>>> using Google Docs  vs Wiki for collaborative documentation-building so many 
>>> times already... (just thinking about it makes me wanna puke :-)
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 1:32:27 PM UTC work.ced...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I also would like to add that the backend developer wants to leave the 
 company and that I am new there so the solution that I am looking for 
 should be very easy to set up and use quickly. I hope that Tiddly will be 
 the right one. 

 Le samedi 30 janvier 2021 à 14:28:54 UTC+1, C J a écrit :

> Thank you for your answers! 
>
> I am interested in the git synchronisation and the different 
> aforementioned plugins and approaches. I do not know how to do the git 
> sync 
> and I would need an example.
>
> However, I would like to make it collaborative. Ludwa06 and Finn said 
> that it is difficult for a team. 
> I do not know GitHub pages. Is it free? We use a private GitLab 
> business account so I am not sure that it would be the solution.
>
> If you could provide me with a recipe to use it like Finn with the 
> implementation of Charlie and Sylvain's ideas I will try it on Monday.
>
> To be honest I will compare it to Notion, Bookstack and Tettra. 
> Knowing that we are a very small company (14 employees including 4 
> full-time developers) I have to find a free solution while escaping from 
> the messy situation where nobody knows how the guy who is just sitting 
> next 
> to you installs software, runs programs, writes his code and deploys it, 
> etc. 
>
> This situation has consequences: if someone is absent or leaves the 
> company the onboarding is very hard. Last Monday I spend all my time 
> trying 
> to set up a program. Finally, on Tuesday its developer told me that he 
> has 
> a lot of steps to explain to me, that I have to follow to 

[tw5] Re: [Update] Tamasha Presentation Plugin

[Ste]

Hi Mo and TT, 
Just to second that. I've just been tinkering moving some of my 
presentations from your previous excellent slide show to your new excellent 
slide show and my images just aren't small enough to fit inside the frame! 
On Wednesday, 3 February 2021 at 09:55:23 UTC TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao Mohammad
>
> *All looking good! *Only issue I see is really a *question *, rather than 
> a big problem..
> (BTW, the slide Long Long Tid 
>  is NOT long 
> enough to illustrate the issue on desktop  :-) .)
>
> Personally, for very long Tiddlers I would like the OPTION for a scroller. 
> I think it would increase the range of uses possible. 
> For instance: for a *library of poems *where the texts are longer than 
> screen height.
>
> I know it might sound odd; in that presentations tend to BRIEF text. 
> BUT a valid use of them can be for longer things sometimes.
>
> So, just a thought: to have option for a SCROLLER for longer Tiddlers?
>
> Overall its brilliant!
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 2 February 2021 at 19:42:45 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> I would like to announce the new experimental release of Tamasha plugin.
>>
>> *Code and demo*
>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Tamasha
>> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Tamasha
>>
>> This beta release has some new features
>>
>> *Release 0.4.3*
>> Feb 2nd, 2021
>> [NEW] Experimental font size using linear scaling based on vh
>> [NEW] kimia theme which hides slide number and nav buttons and uses 
>> default Tiddlywiki default setting
>> [NEW] classes to hide UI elements (slide number, nav buttons, progress 
>> bar)
>>
>> The size kept around 34Kb as of the previous update.
>>
>> *Please contribute with your feedback*
>> There are some ongoing experiments on automatic font scaling based on the 
>> screen size. I like people who have access to big screens, especially a 
>> video projector (which can create a big picture around 2m x 2m) give a try 
>> and send me their feedback on the font size, readability and overflow. The 
>> feedback can be posted here or preferably to  
>> https://github.com/kookma/TW-Tamasha 
>> On the other end, feedback from the small screens is welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Strol v. Mentat

[Ste]

Muuri plugin. That's the one. 

On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 15:03:08 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

>
> Horizontalsomeones done itlooked really good as well, having a 
> brain fart and can't think of the plugin name..hammer.js? by burning tree? 
> hopefully someone with a better memory will be along shortly.
> On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 14:14:22 UTC+1 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello Merv,
>>
>> I preface this by saying I didn't design any of the plugins in question, 
>> though I have been messing with them a lot recently for my own project.
>>
>> As David stated you can use the backlink system, relinks, and 
>> autocomplete from Stroll with the interface of Mentat.
>>
>> However, with the current TiddlyWiki version Mentat is very unstable and 
>> even if you can bring it under control something as simple as flipping 
>> between themes causes it to act up again. I love the concept of Mentat but 
>> it definitely needs some love.
>>
>> This is a link to one of my posts outlining all the steps I took in 
>> trying to get Mentat to work (you can also see the final one where I found 
>> that switching between themes broke it again): 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kCSxf7DaXYw/m/gFA9ZTm-AwAJ
>>
>> Stroll is definitely, at least in my opinion, much more polished and 
>> stable, even the two column display which I enjoy immensely! My only wish 
>> is that there was a horizontal view option.
>>
>> Hope this was helpful in some way!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 8:20:32 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Merv, 
>>>
>>> You could definitely set up the backlink system, relinks and 
>>> autocomplete from Stroll on Mentat. The two column aspect of Stroll would 
>>> not work, but then, if you have Mentat, you have a way to arrange your 
>>> tiddlers, so a second column would be unnecessary. See 
>>> https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#Add%20Stroll%20to%20your%20TW 
>>> for tips on transferring just the backlinks to another file. Blessings.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 6:48:11 AM UTC-5 mervinme...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just discovered the plugin Mentat. 
>>>> https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/   I find the possibilities 
>>>> fascinating.  I am using Stroll for some of my wikis.  At first glance, 
>>>> the 
>>>> two appear to be incompatible.  I was wondering if anybody has done any 
>>>> experimenting with combining these two systems.  What were the results?
>>>>
>>>> Merv
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: [Song] Wiki Wiki

[Ste]

Right! We need to get DJ Jerm and MC Mario on the case to mix up some 
tiddly beats :)

That raised a smile :)

On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 21:41:16 UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> This is a nice "Wikki-Wikki" song too ... https://youtu.be/80HZCap3aWU  
> 
>
> On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 22:22:36 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Here is remix of the previous ... https://youtu.be/Q1B9IdiAWnI
>>
>> On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 22:16:55 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> There are other wiki songs ... like ...  https://youtu.be/hISA_7WBNIs
>>>
>>> TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
 https://youtu.be/QtnzvUfO0wE

>>>

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[tw5] Vanishing content!

[Ste]

Ok... 
This one has me stumped.. 
I have a tiddler titled Thermodynamics. 
When I'm in edit mode the preview shows correctly however when I'm view, 
nothing shows. 
I have cloned the tiddler, all is fine. But when I change the clone name 
from Thermodynamics 1 to Thermodynamics the content vanishes once again. I 
have deleted and redone it just using a small text but putting the title to 
Thermodynamics stops it displaying. 
It used to display... (a couple of weeks ago I think is the last time I 
looked)I'm don't think I've changed anything.. 
It displays on my depreciated tiddlyspot version... 
I'm viewing on mobile chrome. 
https://tmc.stephenteacher.com/txtbook.html#Thermodynamic
Any help/ suggestions?! 

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