Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Hi Nigel, Yes, I had tried Tboltmon v 2.60 but probably because it was very late and a senior moment I didn't notice the GPSTM tab which precisely have the lights function that I was talking about, thank you for the hint. The capability of turning the lights is not important, it is just aesthetics. I have enclosed my board in a recycled HiFi cabinet, mounted the separate panel board at the front and these monitoring LEDs are visible at the front panel. Then I labeled them and now I have a permanent Comm fault ON and a Normal light OFF. This is normal because the NTGS50AA is not communicating anymore with its intended cell tower equipment but it is annoying and I have to explain it to any friend who sees it and says Ignacio, you have an alarm!. For all practical purposes I use Lady Heather, it is plenty of useful functions and the author kindly added support for these boards when they appeared in eBay but unfortunately this version not handle the lights that are used only in there. Regards, Ignacio EB4APL On 19/01/2014 10:26, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ignacio Your mention of the lights control had me confused for a minute, probably not that difficult these days:-), because I do remember seeing that so was wondering if the GPSTM tool had worked for me at one time after all. However, a search through the various trimble programs reminded me that the Thunderbolt monitor, Tboltmon 2v60, has a GPSTM tab that does just this and I've checked the LED control and that works ok here, although I'm not sure why I would ever need it. I can't say whether or not the GPSTM tool has other options this lacks but it might be worth a try anyway. If you haven't already got it you should be able to find Tboltmon online but I'm happy to send you a copy if you wish. I've also found that the NTGS50AA is as vulnerable as other Trimble kit when it comes to swapping about the various Trimble control programs, this one at the moment has decided to default to internal port B and so far refuses to permanently store any instructions to switch back again!! Here we go again, anyone seen my hammer? To return to the subject line though, Lady H still dives in without hesitation and just gets on with the job, she really is one very capable Lady:-) Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 19/01/2014 01:12:45 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: Hi Nigel, The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling the front panel lights. Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack the special features noted above. I too prefer Lady Heather, it is another kind (better) of animal with a lot of other useful things. Regards, Ignacio On 18/01/2014 17:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ignacio I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the same format as Trimble's various other offerings. If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but 1.05 is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing IDLE in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that. If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item COM Port... Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings. If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find whatever it's set to at the moment. I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1. Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA. I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected changes at times. I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random, until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such as position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and Trimble Studio, for example
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Hi Ignacio Your mention of the lights control had me confused for a minute, probably not that difficult these days:-), because I do remember seeing that so was wondering if the GPSTM tool had worked for me at one time after all. However, a search through the various trimble programs reminded me that the Thunderbolt monitor, Tboltmon 2v60, has a GPSTM tab that does just this and I've checked the LED control and that works ok here, although I'm not sure why I would ever need it. I can't say whether or not the GPSTM tool has other options this lacks but it might be worth a try anyway. If you haven't already got it you should be able to find Tboltmon online but I'm happy to send you a copy if you wish. I've also found that the NTGS50AA is as vulnerable as other Trimble kit when it comes to swapping about the various Trimble control programs, this one at the moment has decided to default to internal port B and so far refuses to permanently store any instructions to switch back again!! Here we go again, anyone seen my hammer? To return to the subject line though, Lady H still dives in without hesitation and just gets on with the job, she really is one very capable Lady:-) Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 19/01/2014 01:12:45 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: Hi Nigel, The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling the front panel lights. Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack the special features noted above. I too prefer Lady Heather, it is another kind (better) of animal with a lot of other useful things. Regards, Ignacio On 18/01/2014 17:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ignacio I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the same format as Trimble's various other offerings. If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but 1.05 is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing IDLE in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that. If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item COM Port... Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings. If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find whatever it's set to at the moment. I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1. Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA. I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected changes at times. I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random, until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such as position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and Trimble Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display. It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc, but when run with Lady H they reset again. Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file that could be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best behaved at times either. When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the position data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but I'm a bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with Trimble's software and much prefer running them with Lady H anyway. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Whoopswill now write 1000 times...I must pay more attention:-) I see you've already tried Tboltmon, so I presume there must be a bit more to GPSTM monitor than is obvious from my quick glimpses before it crashes. Let's see if it will run under Win98.. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 19/01/2014 01:12:45 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: Hi Nigel, The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling the front panel lights. Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack the special features noted above. I too prefer Lady Heather, it is another kind (better) of animal with a lot of other useful things. Regards, Ignacio On 18/01/2014 17:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ignacio I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the same format as Trimble's various other offerings. If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but 1.05 is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing IDLE in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that. If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item COM Port... Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings. If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find whatever it's set to at the moment. I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1. Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA. I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected changes at times. I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random, until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such as position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and Trimble Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display. It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc, but when run with Lady H they reset again. Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file that could be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best behaved at times either. When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the position data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but I'm a bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with Trimble's software and much prefer running them with Lady H anyway. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find anything neither in the LH documentation. Regards, Ignacio
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Oh well, 0230 is probably as good a time as any to call it quits for the day:-) I've now tried Win98 and even loaded Win95 on to an old laptop as that and NT was what the GPSTM tool was originally intended to run under and it's still not happy, so it does look to be a non starter, in more ways than one:-) With the GPSTM tool not working the Thunderbolt monitor does seem to be one of the better Trimble options for working with the NTGS50AA and certainly the best under Win95, given that both GPS Monitor and Studio are reporting a missing DLL at the moment. That's probably not too surprising as these are more closely related to each other than they are to most other Trimble products and TBoltMon definitely allows changes to things like the elevation and signal level masks, for example, whereas some of their other software might give the impression it's registering the changes whilst not actually doing anything. It seemed at first that TR Monitor might also be useful, as it allows acces to both of the internal serial ports, but that too now seems a bit suspect. It's always talking to port B, or at least claiming to be, although that's not immediately obvious if the settings are the same, and whilst the indication of both COM port settings did seem potentially quite useful at first it also seems there's a lot more random changes to those settings when it's in use, so it's hard to be sure at times if it's just reporting what it sees or reporting what it's done. If nothing else at least it goes to show that turning your back on a Lady with a whip might not be such a good idea after all:-) Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 19/01/2014 01:12:45 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: Hi Nigel, The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling the front panel lights. Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack the special features noted above. I too prefer Lady Heather, it is another kind (better) of animal with a lot of other useful things. Regards, Ignacio On 18/01/2014 17:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ignacio I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the same format as Trimble's various other offerings. If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but 1.05 is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing IDLE in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that. If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item COM Port... Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings. If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find whatever it's set to at the moment. I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1. Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA. I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected changes at times. I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random, until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such as position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and Trimble Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display. It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc, but when run with Lady H they reset again. Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file that could be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best behaved at times either. When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the position data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady
[time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find anything neither in the LH documentation. Regards, Ignacio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Oops, I meant Mark Sims, sorry. Ignacio EB4APL On18/01/2014 15:27, EB4APL wrote: I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find anything neither in the LH documentation. Regards, Ignacio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Ignatio, Not exactly what you have asked, but I notice that Trimble Tboltmon won't connect to a device which requires Odd parity. You can select Odd parity, but it fails to connect, and the details at the bottom remain fixed at N,8,1 So for Odd parity I can only use Trimble Studio. I haven't figured out exactly why yet. regards Zim ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Ignacio, The Strangely it worked a couple of times maybe it has auto baud routine that is active shortly after reset or power on. Stanley - Original Message - From: EB4APL eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:27 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find anything neither in the LH documentation. Regards, Ignacio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Hi Ignacio I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here generates exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the same format as Trimble's various other offerings. If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but 1.05 is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing IDLE in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that. If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item COM Port... Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings. If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find whatever it's set to at the moment. I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1. Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA. I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected changes at times. I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random, until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such as position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and Trimble Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display. It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc, but when run with Lady H they reset again. Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file that could be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best behaved at times either. When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the position data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but I'm a bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with Trimble's software and much prefer running them with Lady H anyway. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find anything neither in the LH documentation. Regards, Ignacio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
I will try it, but always it happened after connecting the serial cable to the GPSDO that had been on for a long time. Regards, Ignacio On 18/01/2014 17:07, Stanley wrote: Ignacio, The Strangely it worked a couple of times maybe it has auto baud routine that is active shortly after reset or power on. Stanley - Original Message - From: EB4APL eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:27 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find anything neither in the LH documentation. Regards, Ignacio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather and the NTGS50AA
Hi Nigel, The GPSTM tool (The program identifies itself as GPS Monitor v 1.5, to contribute to the entropy) also gives the same errors when connected to my NTGS50AA, caused by bad programming that becomes crazy when listening to a device that sends data at 9600 Bd, but in the rare occasions when it syncs it works quite well and it has specific Trimble-Nortel functions for the NTGS50AA and its cousins, like the ability to handling the front panel lights. Using the other GPS monitor, the GPS Studio or even the Thunderbolt monitor is easy as they seems to recognize the baud rate but they lack the special features noted above. I too prefer Lady Heather, it is another kind (better) of animal with a lot of other useful things. Regards, Ignacio On 18/01/2014 17:19, gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ignacio I'm not familiar with the GPSTM tool, trying to run it here gen.erates exception errors, but from what I see when it's trying to boot it's much the same format as Trimble's various other offerings. If you run Trimble GPS Monitor though, version 1.6 was the latest but 1.05 is fine too, and that doesn't connect there's likely to be a box showing IDLE in the bottom right hand corner of the displayed screen for that. If you right click that you should get a drop down menu with the top item COM Port... Left clicking that should bring up a small panel for selecting Com port and settings with a tick button for Auto-detect settings. If you select that tick button and hit OK it should run through all that standard options for baud rate and protocol etc and should hopefully find whatever it's set to at the moment. I've just tried this with an NTGS50AA that's been running with Lady Heather and it very quickly connected using TSIP at 9600-8-None-1. Once running in GPS monitor it's fairly straightforward to change settings to what you prefer, at least it is for appropriate Trimble GPS modules but I haven't tried using it to make changes with the NTGS50AA. I have observed though that Lady Heather can make other unexpected changes at times. I've been playing with some Trimble Resolution T and Resolution SMT modules recently, along with various different versions of Trimble GPS software as well as Lady Heather, and was losing settings, apparently at random, until I realised that Lady H was changing the format for output data such as position and altitude etc to alternative formats that GPS Monitor and Trimble Studio, for example wouldn't or couldn't display. It's easy enough to put them back, and once done they seem to survive different versions of Trimble software as well as power cycling etc etc, but when run with Lady H they reset again. Once aware of this I've just accomodated it and haven't bothered to investigate further, so it's quite possibly something in a config file that could be changed, but to be fair to Lady H, Trimbles own software isn't best behaved at times either. When running the NTGS50AA with GPS monitor just now I noticed the position data is greyed out, even though it still displays fine with Lady H, but I'm a bit more cautious about tempting to configure these with Trimble's software and much prefer running them with Lady H anyway. Regards Nigel GM8PZR In a message dated 18/01/2014 14:57:03 GMT Standard Time, eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es writes: I have a NTGS50AA working with the Lady Heather last version which incorporate support for this board (Thanks Mask Sims). When I bought the board I used the Trimble utility GPS Monitor (GPSTM Commissioning Tool V1.5) to set it up and in the way knowing that it was previously working in Guatemala. This program uses COM1 or 2 with a fixed configuration of 19200, 7,Odd and 1stop bit. After using LH it seems that it changed the parameters to 9600.0.N,1 probably using an undocumented command and the board stores this configuration even if unpowered. But now I can't use the Trimble program because it refuses to connect, even it crashes when trying to connect at 19200 baud. Strangely it worked a couple of times when I was trying to command the leds in the panel but I don't know how it managed to change the baud rate. Does anybody know how to change the configuration of the board serial port, maybe an undocumented command? I have the manual but I don't find anything neither in the LH documentation. Regards, Ignacio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to