Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on POWER8
It's "planned for Trisquel 8", as the website says.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Tomato Router - limit bandwidth
No. There is, for example, no free software support for 802.11ac. And so: This is the point where you must choose between getting a new router and using free software on it or keeping your existing router and using proprietary software on it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to become a hacker?
First, get some chopsticks. That's where it starts: https://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html One is not simply "told" how to be a hacker...
Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU won't let Libreboot leave. Ruben mentioned again in statement for his involvement.
Hey, he's the only sysadmin left at the FSF. I imagine that makes him very busy, without much free time. That in itself is reason that "he has put Trisquel 8 on hold and isn't doing the Freedom Fridays anymore." Has nothing to do with him being "guilty" or "innocent" but more as a fact of life. Demands of the day job. Don't try to spread FUD.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Tomato Router - limit bandwidth
Hello, please don't use proprietary software. For your freedom's sake. For Tomato: Backend: GNU General Public License Frontend: Proprietary Anyway, these are not the forums of the Tomato Project. Please contact the Tomato project questions about Tomato. The Trisquel community guidelines (https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines) are pretty clear that our community's resources -- the forum, documentation, etc -- are for free software only. We don't support non-free software here.
Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU won't let Libreboot leave. Ruben mentioned again in statement for his involvement.
There's a lot of stuff going around. Not all of it is factually correct. It claims Richard Stallman refused to let libreboot go, but I have been reading the archives of the gnu-prog-discuss mailing list. Stallman has not said anything at all. A few GNU contributors said things. They don't speak for the GNU Project itself. Claiming that the GNU Project refused to let libreboot go based on their responses seems to be mischaracterizing what happened in the mailing list thread. And so: "The GNU Project" did not tell Leah anything about this yet... a few GNU contributors expressed personal opinions on a mailing list. That is all. I don't have much of an opinion on Leah's original statements (because we outsiders don't know exactly what happened) but seeing this, it does make me wonder: If Leah can mischaracterize the conversation on gnu-prog-discuss, (since I have first hand knowledge of what's going on there, since I am on the list in question) I wonder how much of the other things have been too. We'll probably never really know.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A virtual personal server?
Indeed. hack and hack, there's nothing special about a "server." It's just a computer running some programs, nothing more.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Home email server
" I can't change that, only my ISP can, but it wouldn't bother doing it for a home Internet user." I guess my ISP is nice then: They did a reverse DNS sub-delegation so I control forward and backward DNS resolution. All from a small "mom and pop" ISP that allows servers in their TOS and assigns a group of static IPs (a /29.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] If Rubén harassed Libreboot's Leah Rowe, he should be fired and Trisquel shut down
"I thought it was just "cis."" It's cisgender, or cis for short: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender Calling it "cis normal" implies that being cisgendered is normal and that (by extension) transgendered is not, so I don't think that's the right term to use.
Re: [Trisquel-users] If Rubén harassed Libreboot's Leah Rowe, he should be fired and Trisquel shut down
"Ruben was named by LR as someone engaging in discrimination" Nope. Once again it's important to keep things in the context of what is being claimed. On https://libreboot.org/gnu/ Leah doesn't say exactly what each of the named people are claimed to have actually done, and just lumps everyone in together. But she does provide a clue in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2016-09/msg00053.html In particular where she says "...was being harassed by another employee who was transphobic. Her fellow co-worker sided with him..." Let's look at this: "...harassed by another employee..." Another. As is: One. And then: "...her fellow co-worker sided with him..." Given this we can say that this is Rubén because there are two sysadmins (going off the FSF's staff page) but only one Outreach and Communication Coordinator (Stephen.) So, "sided with him." There must have been an accusation or something in order for someone to "take a side." So, although she doesn't exactly say what was said and leaves that up to our imaginations, one *possible* explanation that would fit the claims that Leah has made and that would present everyone in the best possible light would be: 1. Stephen says something. Exactly what is not known. 2. The employee in question takes this as being some sort of transphobic statement or something. Whether or not it actually was or not or how it was intended we'll never know, since we do not know what was said nor the person's intent and will probably never know. 3. The employee raises it as an issue. Rubén takes Stephen's side, perhaps saying something like "Hold on, that's not what that means" or "That's not what Stephen meant." Or not his intent. Or whatever. And so now, "her fellow co-worker sided with him", as Leah has claimed. In closing, while we'll probably never know who actually said what and what they intended by saying it, this series of *possible* events does fit with what Leah is claiming given the available information, and we can imagine a possible scenario where it was a simple misunderstanding/miscommunication that escalated and went into overeaction and where Rubén is "guilty" of nothing more than trying to defuse the situation. And perhaps it really wasn't what Stephen meant. We'll probably never know. And remember that in no case has Leah Rowe actually accused Rubén himself of doing anything, only that he sided with the person that was supposedly doing it which, although we'll never probably never know exactly what was said, could have been nothing more than, as I said, trying to say that that wasn't what was meant in whatever it was that Stephen supposedly said.
Re: [Trisquel-users] If Rubén harassed Libreboot's Leah Rowe, he should be fired and Trisquel shut down
And notice that the target was quietly changed. Originally libreboot.org/gnu claimed "a transgender employee at the FSF was being harassed" but here in this thread t3g has quietly turned that into Leah Rowe. Some facts: 1. Leah is not and has never been employed by the FSF. Their list of employees can be found at http://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board. Feel free to check the Internet Archive's Wayback machine for history to confirm. And so, the "transgender employee at the FSF was being harassed" could not have been Leah Rowe. 2. Leah has never made any claim that she herself was harassed by Rubén. From what we can tell, Leah made the decision to remove libreboot from the GNU Project because of this other person being supposedly being harassed in a show of solidarity, not because she herself was. It's important to keep things straight over what people claim and avoid mixing things around.
Re: [Trisquel-users] What happened to Freedom Fridays?
I suspect that Rubén didn't have the time to continue them. But now that the FSF is down to one sysadmin (Rubén himself) I doubt that he will have even less time now, at least until a replacement sysadmin is hired.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot leaves FSF. Says FSF shouldn't exist anymore.
" So is it true that libreboot leaves the gnu project?" Yes, Leah says she removed it from the GNU Project. That can be seen in her message although https://www.gnu.org/software/ still says it's a GNU Package but perhaps that just hasn't been updated. Although that question seems unimportant. Libreboot still exists regardless. The whole thing is, in my view, an overreaction to the events that happened especially given that they appear to be false.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot leaves FSF. Says FSF shouldn't exist anymore.
And now the FSF makes an official statement: https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-statement
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot leaves FSF. Says FSF shouldn't exist anymore.
Evidence to the contrary: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2016-09/msg00052.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] Black screen on cold boot with full disk encryption
No; I've never experienced this. My Trisquel with full disk encryption and LVM works just fine.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting “Not found” message when running a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system
The error was about the missing 32-bit loader, not about the program you were trying to run (which clearly did exist.) It's a hard to fix shortcoming in the OS that only the error is returned, and not that the error actually concerns a different file from the one you're trying to run.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Suggestions for calculating salary documenting libre software
"how much can I charge for my services documenting libre software?" That depends on what you think you can get. Gotta negotiate.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best free software friendly router
Yes, you're right - LibreWRT and libreCMC are both based on OpenWRT. LibreWRT and libreCMC merged together because it made sense to have 1 libre fork of OpenWRT instead of two different groups working on essentially the same goal.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best free software friendly router
"Is libreCMC still under active development?" Yes. "the last release from last year." What?! No it's not. Version 1.3.4 came out two months ago in July: https://librecmc.org/librecmc/downloads/snapshots/v1.3.4/ar71xx/luci/ You should visit their IRC channel. It's quite active. Some people were talking about VoIP stuff in there earlier today.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Test message, please ignore
"please ignore" No, absolutely not! :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Home email server
Indeed. Set up a GNU/Linux box with Postfix with handle SMTP, Dovecot for POP and IMAP, and something for webmail. (I use Usermin for webmail http://webmin.com/usermin.html because it's so easily integrated with the rest of the system.) Add in procmail and SpamAssassin for anti-spam stuff and you've got an email server. There are many How To-type of documents online. I've been running my own email server since 1999. These programs are what I use but others can be substituted.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now
It would have been good to have factored in some money to go toward graphics from the crowdfunding. Perhaps something similar to what was done Novena for Novena: https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/novena/updates/1028 Since I understand that the campaign doesn't actually end once the time's up perhaps a stretch goal can be added to raise money to hire someone to work on free software support specifically for the EOMA68's graphics chip. This seems a more targeted goal than developing support for all Mali GPUs. Hopefully lkcl will read this and seriously consider it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] name of the computer on the linus picture?
Why not email him and ask? torva...@linux-foundation.org. It is probably something very old because that picture is old: Linus looks young and the LinuxWorld conference (from his shirt) hasn't been a thing for a long time.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Do Libreboot T400 and X200 have integrated webcam?
Depends on your paranoia level. Some people seem to be of the opinion that it is capable of being turned on remotely and used to watch you. As a result some will cover them with tape while others remove them entirely. I think the whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. The only instances I've seen involve using proprietary software. One example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District Don't use proprietary software and don't use computers that belong to someone else. Practice good computing hygiene and you'll be fine.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818
"I was just providing a link to macchanger, that would have prevented what you described previously" So would following the instructions on the libreboot website and not just going with the built-in MAC address. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818
"Since it is a unique identifier, it can be used to track you while on the internet" This seems a little hyperbolical. A website you are accessing on the internet (like, say, fsf.org) has no access to your MAC address. The place you're connecting to from would be able to know it so a better way to say it might be that "Since it is a unique identifier, network access points can track you from one the other." This is the case as long as you're connected to the access point, regardless of whether or not you are actually making use of the internet. But anyway, you seem to be missing my point. I was responding to vita_cell's "I always flashed ROMs with default MAC address." This is a bad practice. Plain and simple. Even that website doesn't advocate for everyone to adopt the same MAC address. Because if everyone used the same MAC address no one could do anything. So don't use the default MAC address in libreboot, okay? Make up something random if you want in the name of privacy or security or whatever -- but that is beyond the scope of the point I was making.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4
Thank you for another great update, Rubén! As promised I have donated $50 to the Trisquel project for this update. Who else will join me? Even if you can't do $50 please consider setting some amount that you can afford and join in. Long live Trisquel!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Well, I just installed Powershell
There are many licenses, not all of which are free. https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/license_thirdparty_proprietary.txt
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818
This is not a good idea people. Two libreboot people doing that meet up, use the same network, and get their network interfaces shutdown because duplicate MAC addresses were found on the network. Think it's not likely? Imagine the FSF's yearly Libreplanet conference just as an example. Or someone stockpiling computers and flashing them all. You should really use the MAC address that came with your computer.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 3
Not all of the Helpers pull packages from Ubuntu.
Re: [Trisquel-users] explaination about free software mouvement and Trisquel in Trisquel 8 Flidas
Magic Banana is thinking of the version of Trisquel that comes on the FSF's membership card not the normal version of Trisquel.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian
That's newer and didn't exist at the time the decision to use Ubuntu was made.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 3
"Why would you think its obvious?" Because it has worked that way with every single past version of Trisquel ever: You can upgrade from one version to the version immediately after that one. Skipping versions is not supported so if you were on an old Trisquel you'd need to first upgrade through all of the intermediate versions first before finally landing on the newest one. (Or if someone is on an old Trisquel it might be faster to reinstall rather than upgrading through lots of different versions.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting debian fsf approved
"The installer, while only enabling "main", will ask for certain firmware on removable media that a driver might demand, if that firmware is nonfree, and not included in the Debian installer. I can confirm that this behaviour occurs when an Intel wireless card is installed, and I assume this is true for quite a few devices. Debian was my first taste of GNU/Linux. So I downloaded the firmware for my wireless card (in truth, this was just for Bluetooth, and it turned out I could use WiFi without any proprietary software, by some stroke of luck) just to be safe. Then later I read more carefully and found out this was not the case. But it does back up the FSF's point about the installer." Indeed - http://unixhelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.png But also: http://slbase.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/47.jpg
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 3
"I am not sure what this update means." Fundamentally important things like the environments to compile Trisquel 8 now exist. It's now possible to build a very rough system, although it can't boot because important packages like GRUB do not exist yet. Also, more work is still needed to clean up and modify the Ubuntu packages. "How long do you think is left before the next release then?" That depends on how much work turns out to be necessary. The great part is that anyone can join in and help through the project's GitLab instance - https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers Remember those naysayers talking about how it was hard to help and whatnot? This is fundamentally not true: Anyone can create an account on the project's GitLab instance and start sending pull requests.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 3
Thank you for another great update, Rubén! As promised I have donated $50 to the Trisquel project for this update. Who else will join me? Even if you can't do $50 please consider setting some amount that you can afford and join in. Long live Trisquel!
Re: [Trisquel-users] unhosted web apps
Only so long as these programs written in JavaScript are free. Even then metadata still gets leaked like how many times you go to the site, when, where from, and etc. And if they're truly running only on the person's computer then it seems clunky to be getting them from a web browser in the first place. May as well be converted to C or some other "proper" language (LOL) and installed via the package manager. Then truly no one knows when or how often the program is used.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Neovim
"Is there a reason why neovim is not within Trisquel's repo?" Because Ubuntu doesn't have it? Not all distros can necessarily package all programs. There will always be someone that comes along and asks why some program isn't there. :) Feel free to help contribute by packaging it for inclusion. Help is always welcome! :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now
Some places, like Indiegogo, support what they fall "flexible funding campaigns" which don't have this "all or nothing" rule.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 2
There isn't one yet. It is way too early. In this development update Rubén just made the kernel that allows for the build jails to get made so that the software can start getting compiled. An ISO won't exist until much later...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 2
"Isn't the script just the script from Linux-libre?"
No. The Linux-libre script only works with the vanilla kernel from
kernel.org. Canonical's kernel is heavily modified. Go grab the Linux-libre
deblob scripts, the ubuntu kernel source, and run the de-blob script. It dies
immediately, saying "File blah does not exist; something is wrong." Even if
you force it to continue (there's an option to ignore errors and continue
regardless) that error repeats over and over as different files it looks for
are not there.
So the script must be modified to deblob the Ubuntu kernel. Plus, Canonical
adds more blobs than what normally come (I think it was in the mid to high
twenties in terms of more blobs last I checked but that was a while ago so it
has probably increased) and the script must also be updated to deblob those.
So I wish it were as easy running the Linux-libre deblob script but that
would mean an incompletely deblobbed kernel, both from the files it missed
("File blah does not exist; something is wrong") and the additional blobs it
wouldn't know about as well.)
So now you know the truth about a common misconception: Trisquel doesn't use
Linux-libre. Linux-libre is the generic kernel from kernel.org, having been
modified to remove the problematic stuff. Trisquel uses a deblobbed version
of Ubuntu's kernel instead, using modified versions of the Linux-libre deblob
script.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates), 2
Thank you, Rubén! As promised I have donated $50 to the Trisquel project for this update. Will anyone join me? Even if you can't do $50 please consider setting some amount that you can afford and join in. Long live Trisquel!
Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel
VLC and Westnoth may not be the best examples because they do get security updates (An example being VLC version 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.2 and Westnoth 1:1.10.7-1ubuntu0.14.04.1, both of are available from security despite living in Universe.) Keep in mind security doesn't mean the latest available version. Similar to Debian if a security issue is found in VLC or Westnoth that fix can be backported, assuming that the fix even impacts that specific version in the first place (it may not, and if so renders the issue moot over that particular security issue.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates
And in doing so, the main server gets overloaded while the mirrors sit idle. Please use a mirror, people!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software leaflet
This looks like an official publication of the FSF. Please don't use trademarked logos without permission.
Re: [Trisquel-users] So Linux-Libre Kernel 4.7 fails to boot properly
Ah ha! Good to know, thanks!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates
Thank you, Rubén! To help raise money for Trisquel I have decided that I will donate $50 to the Trisquel project each time you post one of these development updates. I encourage everyone to join in! Even if you can't do $50 please consider setting some amount that you can afford and join in. Long live Trisquel!
Re: [Trisquel-users] So Linux-Libre Kernel 4.7 fails to boot properly
Hmmm. There is only one keyring package, all packages depend on the same one, and it's in the repository already. To see the packages in the 32-bit repository: http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/dists/freesh/main/binary-i386/Packages freesh-keyring is listed first. If you scroll down to "Package: linux-libre32" you'll see "Depends: freesh-keyring." So what you're saying seems very strange.
Re: [Trisquel-users] So Linux-Libre Kernel 4.7 fails to boot properly
Well, the updated version of 4.7 is in the repository. And so?
Re: [Trisquel-users] So Linux-Libre Kernel 4.7 fails to boot properly
I am compiling a new version of 4.7 to try. More to come...
Re: [Trisquel-users] So Linux-Libre Kernel 4.7 fails to boot properly
What do you see in logs? What graphics card do you have?
Re: [Trisquel-users] What brand / size of flash drive would you recommend ?
"Sure it' more reliable" An HDD would probably not survive a drop from, say, a desk (especially if it's running.) Something using flash memory would be more resilient to such a thing. So it depends on the definition of "reliable", LOL. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU+Linux-Libre From Scratch system
The GNU+Linux From Scratch system provide their own support channels. You may have better luck there: http://linuxfromscratch.org/support.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel
"The fsf receives every year a substantial amount of money as an income." Ha! I don't know which FSF you're looking at. $450,000 (okay, they ended at $461,000 at their last fundraiser)? For a staff of 12 people? That works out to about $38,416 per person. That's not a lot in the U.S. And it's even less if you add more people like you want to do. And that doesn't include office expenses like rent and whatever other costs there may be to keep the office going. Or running the LibrePlanet conference. I understand that MIT donates the space but it can't all be free. And other operational expenses throughout the year.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel
Teach about free software and campaigning for various issues is also important. And how do the other FSF-endorsed distros feel over that if the FSF were to say "we'll hire someone to work on Trisquel but sorry Parabola and Guix you lose! Suckers!!! LOL..." I think they'd feel like a second-class distro: Trisquel is worthy of this but not them. I recall one of RMS's main points with their endorsed distros was to treat them all equally, even listing them in alphabetical order to avoid any indication of preference.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting debian fsf approved
"Is that the problem?" That would be one. More generally: https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Debian Your question of the installer is even mentioned there. "However, the problem partly remains: the installer in some cases recommends these nonfree firmware files for the peripherals on the machine."
Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel
Can the FSF afford to? They also have limited resources and much that needs doing on their own. Have you looked at their financial statements? They're very lean. It's amazing that they accomplish as much as they do. It's a testament to the quality and dedication of the people they hire.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now
"That email you quoted is from Chris." Just as a point of order to correct the record: The message in question was forwarded by Koz Ross and seems to have originally been written by lkcl (Luke Leighton), not Chris. Although Chris was CC'd on the message.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now
Not with free software, no.
Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now
I don't seem to see any information on the graphics part of things. I am concerned that something like Mali may be in use. Can you please speak to that?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 can now be debootstrapped
People are trying to make your computer better.
[Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 can now be debootstrapped
https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/commit/23e5a157774f0f696ae70c13a63d9a5fe6075de1 Yay!!! It is still very incomplete, just the first step for development.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Dual boot Windows 7 wants username
"People have asked for updated Trisquel 7 ISOs to be more in line with the Ubuntu 14.04.x ones that fix issues and such. It never happened." Step up and help make it happen then. Don't be part of the peanut gallery that sits back and yells for other people to do stuff and then get unhappy when others don't do it. "a release that came out over 2 years ago." Check your facts: Trisquel 7 was released November 3, 2014. So it's closer to 1.5 years. Given a 2 year release cycle we're not even there yet. So no reason to expect a new version just yet. Two years. So hold on. "Heck, the guy even works for the FSF full time now to concentrate on Trisquel." Check your facts more: So he doesn't. You should idle in the sysadmin IRC channel to see what's going on. He does work full-time at the FSF but as a sysadmin focusing on FSF stuff. He doesn't get to work on Trisquel, except maybe tangential things where there is a bug in Trisquel that affects the FSF in some way. In fact he has to take time off from work to remove his FSF hat, put on his Trisquel hat, and go to work on the next release.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is sources iso image complete?
It's supposed to includes what's on the installation ISO, not all of Trisquel. If you want the source code of a particular package do apt-get source foo, where foo is the name of the source package. Note that the binary and source package names may be different. If you want the source code for all packages you'd need to use something like debmirror or somehow call apt-get source recursively. Or you could go the the mirrors directly and download things over HTTP or rsync: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/mirroring-trisquel And if you adjust the rsync include/exclude parameters appropriately you could get only what you want (if you want less than everything.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu 16.04 released 2 months ago. Trisquel 8 status?
From #trisquel about an hour ago: < quidam> I'm taking friday off for the next 2 months, to work on Trisquel 8 < quidam> I hope to have a debootstrapable system ready by today
Re: [Trisquel-users] Netinsall, tty, apt-get update not working
"still, is there a point to keep /boot encrypted?" An unencrypted boot partition opens the possibility for someone to be able to install malicious software, since it can be read from and written to without any problem. Perhaps they'll replace the kernel with a modified version containing a keylogger that makes note of the passphrase that you type in while decrypting the rest of the drive. Which the kernel then saves somewhere for that person to get later. Or perhaps transmits to them somehow. Or who knows what else? The point being it opens a (potential) avenue of attack. Whether or not that's an issue for you depends on your threat model. "One funny sounding variation I've heard about is you can have the /boot on a thumb drive. I believe that way the computer won't boot without it." This could be a good option for computers that don't support libreboot and can't have an encrypted /boot (since proprietary BIOSes typically do not have support for reading an encrypted /boot it needs to be left unencrypted.) This can avoid the whole issue I mentioned above (because you could keep the USB thumb drive with you at all times even if not the computer.) If someone isn't using encryption for the rest of the drive there is very little point in putting /boot on a different drive because even if someone can't boot the drive itself that doesn't stop someone from booting the computer using their own CD or USB stick and then mounting the HDD. Or from removing the HDD from the computer and mounting it on a different computer. And then, they have access to everything. So putting /boot on a different drive only makes sense when disk encryption is also used (and if the computer supports libreboot and can have an encrypted /boot there isn't anything to be gained by putting /boot on a different drive because you don't have unencrypted stuff you're trying to save from unauthorized changes or reading. "No idea how to do it though or whether it's super safe or anything." You'd do custom partitioning in the Trisquel installer. Just as you can say in the installer that /home is to be located on a different drive, you'd put the /boot partition on a separate thing too (possibly a USB stick.) So you'd need the thing that is to hold /boot to be connected while doing the install.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Rip dvd that is not ISO9660
"I have tried using dd, which produced an ISO that I couldn't get to work properly" dd isn't for making an ISO. It just reads the device. It would be helpful to know more specifics about the DVD in question. What format is it in currently? What is the directory layout (like is there a VIDEO_TS folder, etc.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone using LibertyBSD? How does it compare to Trisquel?
Indeed. Their post shows much confusion over various topics and conflating different things together. Despite this it is still possible to suss enough out that they are not committed to having an 100% free OS: "An entirely free system according to the definition of the FSF and GNU does not contain any parts that go contrary to the Free Software definition. However, this has never been Syllable's goal. It is roughly our goal for the base system..." "We think a platform is not much good if it doesn't offer important functionality that users need. Some such functionality is closed source, or at least not Free Software, so we still want to have the option to try to support it..." "...for example drivers would be ported that require closed firmware, we want to be able to include them. And several contributors of Syllable programs over the years have not released their source code." That they were talking to Stallman and their saying he came to the same conclusion supports this, despite the other confusion that they have on various topics.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone using LibertyBSD? How does it compare to Trisquel?
I don't know. Their message shows confusion on several fundamental topics though.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone using LibertyBSD? How does it compare to Trisquel?
"But Syllable is free" Of charge perhaps but they seem to have very interesting views: http://forum.syllable.org/viewtopic.php?p=8201=d6e06f2ffe9577dc8ce55ff0e81be87b
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences
No it's not. Trisquel is released roughly every 2 years. Please don't expect 8 until closer to the end of 2016. Possibly not even until 2017.
Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?
This is why I say Sunday, July 18, 2106. Now those professionals have something to put on the calendar. (And when Trisquel 8 ships decades before that date they can be happy and say "Wow - Shipping in advance of a deadline - How awesome!" (And I wonder what those professionals do for other distros that don't have a fixed release date either. Like, say, Debian which is "when it's ready.")
Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?
Hear hear! Plus, if we figure a release (roughly) every two years it's not even been two years since version 7 came out. So 8 shouldn't even be on the radar until late 2016. Possibly even 2017...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Sent an Email to GNU.org about these 2 new Libre OS
Yep, and that's not until their problems are fixed: Last time it was evaluated the installer doesn't actually install LibertyBSD. It installs OpenBSD instead! http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2016-02/msg1.html has a link to a screenshot. They replied saying they'd fix it: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2016-02/msg3.html But that was February and we're now in June. I'm not sure how that fits in with the FSF's criteria of having a "commitment to correct mistakes"...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.
They come from vendors. For example: https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2015/12/10/the-linux-vendor-firmware-service-welcomes-dell/ But yes, your point is valid regardless of who it comes from. Time for free firmware! https://jxself.org/free-firmware.shtml
Re: [Trisquel-users] amdgpu is considered "open source", but how is it considered worthy of deblobbing by the Linux Libre kernel?
"it requires non-free code (additional firmware or a key or whatever) from the vendor in order to work?" Yep. If you do a diff of Linux and Linux-libre you can see the actual changes. One of them below. Goodbye binary firmware! /* Firmware Names */ -#define FIRMWARE_TONGA "amdgpu/tonga_uvd.bin" -#define FIRMWARE_CARRIZO "amdgpu/carrizo_uvd.bin" -#define FIRMWARE_FIJI "amdgpu/fiji_uvd.bin" -#define FIRMWARE_STONEY"amdgpu/stoney_uvd.bin" +#define FIRMWARE_TONGA "/*(DEBLOBBED)*/" +#define FIRMWARE_CARRIZO "/*(DEBLOBBED)*/" +#define FIRMWARE_FIJI "/*(DEBLOBBED)*/" +#define FIRMWARE_STONEY"/*(DEBLOBBED)*/"
Re: [Trisquel-users] New ReTux Release and a Level Making Competition
I like it. Lots of action. Maybe a small amount more at the beginning about the motivation behind the story and why Tux is trying to put an end to the Snow King's reign? It's the only suggestion I've got.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ars Technical: Oracle vs Google verdict might kill the GPL
"What I don't understand is how this can threaten the GPL?" It can't and doesn't. The article is a bunch of rubbish. "The GPL is a detailed legal document that lays out exactly what the user of the licensed software agrees to. "copyright" is a more general category. Fair use is a more general concept. The GPL is a specific license. It is almost like saying, "today there was a court case that showed a certain kind of contract is invalid...so now all contracts, of that kind or any other kind, are in jeopardy!" Of course some contracts can be shown to be invalid but that in no way implies that all other contracts need to worry." It's not even that. It's more like: Not 100% of everything is covered under copyright because there is a fair use exception that applies in some cases! Oh no - This will kill the GPL! That is BS. Fair use has existed as an exception to copyright for a very long time and the GPL has been and continues to be enforced successfully. Nothing from the decision changes this. "In the case between Oracle and Google, my guess is that the copyright was not elaborated on in the form of a detailed license that Google agreed to." Of course there was no agreement. Oracle hadn't even bought Sun yet when Android came out so there was no agreement to get made. There didn't even need to be one though. Google made their own independent implementation of Java. After Oracle bought Sun and got their grubby paws on Java, Oracle went and and sued Google over that. That's stupid and it's good that Oracle lost. People have been able to make independent implementations of stuff for years without problems. Imagine if Stallman couldn't have started to make GNU because following the same UNIX APIs and such would have meant he'd run afoul of AT copyright. It's a stupid notion: No UNIX code has been used in GNU and that is all that should matter. People should be able to make their own independent implementations that interoperate. I think that Oracle is trying this in an attempt to re-proprietarize Java. Fortunately it's not working. Their attorneys seem to be sore losers though and post BS articles. Perhaps it's an attempt to sway future jurors, since Oracle has said they will appeal. I hope that they continue to lose on appeal too.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make a home phone using VOIP?
Indeed, and you could even get creative.
For example: Imagine hooking up a vintage telephone booth to an ATA adapter.
"This is a unique large, mid century American telephone booth with a wood
body, glass sliding door, and a vent on top. When the door is closed, a light
automatically turns on and there is a seat in front of the phone."
Sit down, place your call using voip.
And then of course imagine the reverse: The phone booth starts ringing when
someone calls! ("Excuse me while I step into this phone booth to answer the
call...")
Very retro but with modern coolness!
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make a home phone using VOIP?
"where I can hook up an actual phone and receive and send calls." So what you want is something called an Analog telephone adapter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_telephone_adapter and then use a program like Asterisk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk_%28PBX%29) - which is in the Trisquel repo already, waiting for to be installed - running on a computer somewhere for the phone to register with. Asterisk handles the voip and your voicemail and whatnot and ta da. Asterisk is rather powerful: It can register with an external voip provider or you could become your own and have your own voip system or whatever. Have fun.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New ReTux Release and a Level Making Competition
I was trying to be quiet until I'd looked into this more but since you are disappointed I will say that I may make some. I made a bunch of levels for KGoldrunner (https://jxself.org/git/?p=kxp.git) and it might be nice to try a different game. No promises though because I haven't yet examined things in sufficient detail just yet.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Petition for Intel to Release an ME-less CPU design
Yes. Perhaps a final admission that their goal was impossible. They've gone from "we can do this" to "Intel please do this."
Re: [Trisquel-users] Petition for Intel to Release an ME-less CPU design
Intel will ignore any such petition.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Docker on Trisquel
I use Trisquel for servers for many years just fine. I definitely recommend it over other GNU/Linux distros! For adding other repos, BEWARE! The challenge with going to other places is that they've not been reviewed & vetted by the Trisquel team as being free of freedom problems (even small, tiny, microscopic ones that someone might not even pick up on without careful examination.) So: BEWARE!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where did LibreJS go?
I'm not sure you're providing enough information. It would be helpful to say how you go about disabling it and what happens when you try to turn it on again. For example: You go to Tools, Add-ons, and then...? It should be as easy as clicking the Enable button. Or is LibreJS not shown there or what? You do not say. :) Either way re-installing the browser to get an add-on back seems too much, especially since it is available via one-click install from the LibreJS website: http://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Quickest and easiest way to rip a DVD straight to .iso
Yes, I know. I'm talking of the general advice because dd is not a general-purpose ISO-making program so I am throwing that caution out there for people.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Quickest and easiest way to rip a DVD straight to .iso
"The ISO is the bit for bit data on the disk" Not exactly. It's supposed to be an ISO 9660 file system. So dd if=/dev/sda of=hdd.iso would not be an ISO image (because /dev/sda for me is ext4.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660
Re: [Trisquel-users] does it make the raspberry pi 3 a free software computer?
"does it make the raspberry pi 3 a free software computer?" No, because the firmware is incomplete. It's not even able to boot the kernel yet. Perhaps in time, if things are sufficiently developed later on... we'll see. But for now? No, nothing has changed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Password Generator instead of a password manager
Point 1 can be addressed by changing the script. For point 2, while the script always outputs passwords of the same length (unless changed) that wouldn't stop someone from remembering "Oh, on this box they require the password to only be 8 characters" and so only using the first 8 characters of the script's output. For point number 3 the hash doesn't actually contain the salt or string so there is nothing to crack that would conclusively reveal what they are/were. Attacks on cryptographic hash functions focus on finding more than one input that returns the same hash. MD5 has this problem today for example. SHA2 is safe but yes, who knows about the future? But: Even if SHA2 were as compromised in the future as MD5 is today, that is not in itself sufficient to let someone know what salt was used and begin generating their own passwords willy-nilly, even if multiple passwords were known. So they're back to guessing. But even in that event a fix is as simple as changing from a SHA2 to a SHA3 implementation once that's available (yes, that means changing passwords but see the last thing below about your last point.) And so, since they're back to guessing, passwords generated with this are subject to the same brute force problem that any (even a randomly generated) password would be. (At this time, brute forcing all possible possible combinations is easier than breaking the cryptographic hash itself.) For your last point I should point out that people should change their passwords regularly anyway. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] ZFS now available in Debian. Maybe its time to stop fighting it?
While there is a difference in how Canonical and the Debian Project are handling this: Canonical, as we all know, has it pre-compiled while the Debian Project provides source code that is compiled when someone installs the package. This difference doesn't actually matter. I'll call what the Debian Project is doing the "We'll Let The Users Do It" method. Let's put ZFS aside for a moment and remember some free software history. Think back to the days of Steve Jobs and Objective C. Another GPL-incompatible license was in use and the proposal was the also "We'll Let The Users Do It." That wasn't accepted as a way around the requirements to put it under a GPL-compatible license back then, and nothing has changed with the GPL that makes such an answer to GPL incompatibility acceptable now. The more important question is whether (and how) the software is intended to interface with each other. As I explained in the other thread, the fact that you need a bunch of files from the kernel to satisfy the #include directives in order to compile it at all, along with the fact that it uses internal kernel interfaces and not the system call interface all point to it being a part of/a derivative of the kernel and so subject to the GPL's requirements.
Re: [Trisquel-users] ZFS now available in Debian. Maybe its time to stop fighting it?
Sigh, no, the reporting on this is terrible. Isn't it great when people trying to mislead don't have press skills?
Re: [Trisquel-users] I was wondering, if I did a full disk encryption,
It's easy: In the netinstall select "Use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" (or words to that effect.) And Ta Da, everything is encrypted except for /boot. That can't be unless you have libreboot because proprietary BIOSes do not normally include supported for reading encrypted boot partitions. Ta Da. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] When will Trisquel 8.0 (Flidas) release?
Every time this question is asked the release date is pushed out 4 more years. ;) It is now Sunday, July 18, 2106. ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Do we have a date for the Trisquel 8 release?
"It was a passing comment. It was admitted as much in another forum." Not exactly. I said "Indeed" indicating agreement with onpon4 that the initial comment came from me and went on to say that I probably jumped the gun by mentioning it because it seems to have become quite the topic of conversation since then and may not even work out in the end due to technical things. Time will tell.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I just updated to kernel 4.5 but a few things look amiss...
"It's a bug, Dave." https://libreboot.org/faq/#epochfail
Re: [Trisquel-users] I just updated to kernel 4.5 but a few things look amiss...
Is libreboot being used?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Wish list for Trisquel 8
OggConvert is a mature program and doesn't get many releases. That doesn't mean it's unmaintained though. Rather it falls into the class of programs that have accomplished what they set out to do. Much like procmail, which hasn't had a release since 2001. It is stable and complete: They define the features they wanted and worked on implementing them. Avoiding feature creep, all of the bugs get slowly worked out and development slows. Unmaintained is not the same as a mature program and I don't think Transmageddon has reached that point yet.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Wish list for Trisquel 8
Regarding alleged freedom zero violations: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/imperfection-isnt-oppression.en.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] issues with encrypted installation
Another option: When the installer gets to the point where it asks to install GRUB, say no. It then asks for where to install it. Tell it /dev/sdb. GRUB is then installed to the correct device and it boots just fine.
