Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
"If you really don't dare to flash the phone yourself, then ask a somewhat  
technically skilled friend."


I think you are presuming much more widespread availability of advanced  
technical skills than is generally the case. I am one of the most technically  
skilled people I know. Although I could probably work out how to flash a  
handheld computer given enough time, I have no idea how long all that would  
take, and there's no guarantee I wouldn't brick a device or two before I got  
it right. I can't think of anyone in my family and friends circles who has  
flashed a new OS onto a device. For that matter, I am one of the only people  
in those circles who knows how to install an OS on a desktop or laptop.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
"Land line phones get power from the line to which they are connected, so  
they will also work in the event the power goes out instead of running low on  
battery power."


This is not true of all landline devices, many of which provide extra  
features like cordless handsets and answer machines, and require plugging  
into a normal power socket to function. Also, a cell phone's need for battery  
power can be mitigated somewhat by buying a small solar charger (photovoltaic  
panel). A friend got one from a big box retail store for NZ$15. Some MIT  
researchers have invented transparent solar cells that could be incorporated  
into the screens of the next generation of portable computers (of any form  
factor), allowing constant trickle charging when there is a sufficiently  
strong light source:

http://energy.mit.edu/news/transparent-solar-cells/

BTW I've heard that in my country there is a plan underway to abandon the  
copper phone lines that support the landline experience J.B. Nicholson-Owens  
describes, and replace them with fibre-optic cables to the house and VoIP. I  
think this is foolish, because of the benefits of a traditional landline that  
J.B. describes. But I have to admit I don't know if it's practical to  
maintain the copper line network in parallel with the fibre network long  
term, or what it would cost. It may be that the costs really do outweigh the  
benefits.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-17 Thread gpast_panama
This actually sounds like a feasible idea- with a data adapter of some sort,  
it seems like it could be possible to use it as a 'phone' when necessary.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-17 Thread greatgnu
> I suppose the original question should probably have been: does the main  
CPU have control over power to the modem


Well, that's exactly one of greatest problems with proprietary software: no  
one can know other than the developers. The used literally is forced to  
accept 'obscure binary only software that can do anything it was programmed  
to'. :/ 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-17 Thread noordinaryspider
Or my own solution: Buy a bigger purse and grab a cheap,  used eeePC that  
runs Trisquel flawlessly, lol.


The dumb phone can stay home if I really want a portable computer and don't  
need a telephone at all.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-16 Thread mcz
Not a full guarantee, but removing the battery should also prevent modem  
activity.
Some phones have a dedicated battery, but it's the CMOS type (for the  
date/time), it should not be capable of keeping the modem on.


But really, even with the Neo900, the only choice is either having a  
functional phone (=a phone that can receive calls) and being traced, or  
having having a dead piece of plastic/metal and being untraceable.


Bippers could have been a good addition (phone off+bipper on=still can be  
reached, without traceability), but the cost is too heavy on the caller, so  
it's not worth it.


So it necessarily means that at least from point A to B, your geolocation can  
be gathered. but if the phone is unreachable, that gives some geolocation  
privacy between A & B.


Personally, while I find it disturbing, trading my geolocation vs having a  
functional phone, is kind of OK. If for some reason I need to go undercover,  
the phone can simply remain at home, or faraday cage, or removing the battery  
etc.


What bothers me much more is the modem isolation. Supposedly good modem  
isolation is better than nothing, but it bothers me that it could have access  
to the personal data on the phone. Geolocation, on the other hand, I don't  
really care.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-15 Thread gpast_panama
That does work- and, of course, is easy to disable and enable as necessary.  
However, I suppose the original question should probably have been: does the  
main CPU have control over power to the modem, or is it confined to simply  
asking "could you please turn off?" and hoping the modem is honest? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-15 Thread greatgnu
How about not having any SIM there and keeping the phone all the time in  
airplane mode? You turn on the wifi when you want to use it (no need to turn  
off airplane mode for that).

That way you get yourself a relatively safe miniature PC.. No phone.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-15 Thread gpast_panama
Well, it turns out you can at least 'deactivate' the modem when the phone is  
off: http://www.instructables.com/id/Faraday-Cage-Phone-Pouch/. It doesn't  
really solve the major freedom problems related to mobile phones, but it was  
too beautiful a tactic to not post.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-14 Thread richardmillea
Yes. Also, once I learnt how to do it I had the knowledge to subsequently  
upgrade to Replicant 6.0. I would also be able to quickly replace the phone  
if lost, stolen, or broken, by purchasing another cheap used phone. I could  
also install Replicant onto another model or one of the supported tablets.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-14 Thread gpast_panama
Thanks for the link! Unfortunately, I don't think any of the answers their  
directly address modem deactivation. I've registered and posted about it  
there anyway, which is probably the more logical place :).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-13 Thread greatgnu
>I certainly wouldn't advise spending €298 on one from Technoethical. That  
is a ridiculous sum of money.


Of course it is. Referring to their prices in general the word 'ridiculous'  
is a euphemism. Wouldn't bite in even if my life depended on it. I'd rather  
spend 30 minutes reading and flashing it on my own, which btw is doable by  
anyone who knows how to read and follow simple instructions.


https://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/GalaxyS3I9300Installation


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-13 Thread mcz

Check Paul's answers:
https://redmine.replicant.us/boards/33/topics/7383


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-13 Thread infinityfallen
Are there any phones (apart from the soon-to-be Neo900) where it can be  
verified that the modem *is* off when 'disabled', and not just pretending to  
be? Perhaps more to the point, is this an issue which can be solved by (say)  
flashing Replicant to a device with decent modem isolation, or does this  
require it to be designed in a way no phone had yet been?


Sorry if this question can easily be answered or is a bit vague.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-10 Thread richardmillea
I have been using a Galaxy S3 running Replicant OS 6.0 for the last month or  
so (4.2 before 6.0). I purchased the phone used for just under £50 GBP.  
Installation wasn't too difficult with a bit of patience and using a couple  
of guides.


I am very happy with the phone and performance is good. It is ideal for me -  
I strongly dislike smartphones, but as I lack a landline phone I need to have  
some form of mobile telephone. It covers the core requirements - calling,  
answerphone, text, - very well. There is also a browser for the rare occasion  
I need to check something and lack access to a computer. F-Droid (the 'app  
store') has lots of useful stuff if you wanted to use the phone more.


Downsides for me:
1) no WiFi. That said, this helps me avoid procrastination as I am more  
conscious of usage when using mobile data vs free WiFi. WiFi dongles work -  
plug in a WiFi dongle and you will have WiFi access. Not practical for  
everyday use, but handy for grabbing big files - e.g. syncing podcasts.


2) no GPS. I miss having directions (driving or walking) in my pocket.


You can now find Galaxy S3 phones secondhand very cheap. If you decide you  
dislike Replicant you can always sell the phone and cover most, or all, of  
your costs. If the absolute worst happens you've only lost a relatively small  
amount of cash.


I certainly wouldn't advise spending €378 on one from Technoethical. That  
is a ridiculous sum of money. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-09 Thread shiretoko
I don't know about that, and frankly speaking, I can't see the big effort in  
buying old s2 phones, putting replicant on it and selling it for doubled  
price.
Why this is supposed to be "so hard" is something i cannot understand. If you  
really don't dare to flash the phone yourself, then ask a somewhat  
technically skilled friend. I'm pretty sure that he can flash it for you in  
half an hour, or let's say an hour at most.
If technoethical can make money with their offer, then it's good for them -  
as a business, why should't they make an offer that generates a lot of money  
if people buy it. That's how the market works, i suppose.
And if there are rich people who look for a quick and convenient way to get a  
freed phone, then why not take this offer.
On the other hand, I don't want poor people to take the offer just because  
they think flashing replicant is something incredibly complicated or time  
consuming.


That's all I wanted to clarify: it's a costy service and there are  
alternatives. If you still want to have something convenient, then you can  
take it - or a similiar offer by any other company.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-09 Thread mjmhogg5

check out https://www.wileyfox.com/

there fairly cheap, but I think they run cyanogenmod ?
you'd have to "libre" it a bit I suppose...

https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-05 Thread josevar
Is the speaker better than the one on the S3 as well? I spoke recently on an  
iPhone SE and was surprised by how much clearer the other person was compared  
to the S3.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-05 Thread josevar

How slow? Is there a video that I could see?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-05 Thread mcz
The info is very hard to find. Short of going into a (rare) dedicated shop,  
all the links are dead (the french Tatoo goes back to 95 though).
I only found that in "francs", sending a message (numeric only) costs 3,71.  
Roughly half a €, which is a lot to ask to any sender.

Worse, it seems it actually now costs around 2€!
But it's still working, a german company runs the show.

Too bad the costs are so high, it would be a cool thing to have :(

Plus I'm sure it can actually cost much less, just like for text messaging  
(which are still overpriced compared to their probable cost to the phone  
company).


Oh well, So it's either being reachable, or being geotracked. Tough frankly I  
don't really care so much aout my geolocation being available (as long as I  
can switch off when I want to).
The true problem is modem isolation. It's like having your internet box  
soldered to your computer.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-05 Thread csh
Pulling out a telephone when people expect a handheld computing device is a  
great joke.


I know, right? Some days, I go into my room, and I see a phone in a brand new  
box has just been thrown on my bed.  Then they keep pressuring me to open the  
box.  It's annoying!


Protip: if you want a phone, outwardly refuse to get a phone and you'll  
always have one.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-05 Thread csh
My mother also thinks I am crazy for wanting a landline and not wanting a  
cellphone.  She tries to take my money before I can buy a Replicant device or  
a one-way pager.


I cannot afford a Replicant device.  I will try to buy a pager online before  
my mom can do anything.  She says pagers are dumb and that I'm just trying to  
be weird, but I don't want a computer in my pocket.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-07-05 Thread csh
Automobiles are very expensive to own.  If you can do what you need to do  
without one, be glad.


I will move to a place where I do not need to own an automobile to get where  
I need to go.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-29 Thread jbahn

quantumgravity, sorry for the sarcasm.

I think we have to realise that people like those behind Technoethical,  
Minifree, Vikings etc have been working very hard for many years to get to  
the point where they can actually establish a business with goods that many  
of us here on the forum are eager to see available to ourselves and a broader  
audience (I suppose that goes for you as well).


I have no idea if these - or some of these - people are, or once will get,  
rich from their endeavours but if so they will have struggled hard for it.  
And at the same time given those of us not skilled to flash themselves a  
possibility to own a libre computer.


And then there are thelow practical issues that Tiberiu states beneath in  
this thread.


Though originally sarcastic, my original message may very well be read  
without: You - or anyone else - is free to offer these services if you are up  
to it. And there is a good chance I would then buy your service, if it  
targets my needs.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-28 Thread info
Thanks! Yes, we were planning to add most of the things you suggested as  
options in order to make it more convenient for the customer.


The price of the N2 phone we sell is already well justified because it takes  
many working hours to look for offers of good-condition phones, talk to  
sellers, meet them, for each of them thoroughly test their phone (and don't  
buy it if it doesn't meet our quality standards; and that means we lost time  
on an offer that didn't pay off), fix or replace components, flash Replicant,  
stress test the phone with Replicant, ship the phone, offer customer service  
(including remote technical support), fix or replace as per warranty  
(happened a few times; phones are easier to break than laptops).


/tct


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-27 Thread b_e_n
It may be worth considering adding the N150 with the phone for the price, and  
even adding a 64 GB micro-sd card. A preintalled screen protector would also  
be a sweet addition.


Some extras like that may help potential buyers justify the price tag, and it  
doesn't cost that much to add. It would look really cool on the website :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-27 Thread jbahn
Looks like you just found yourself an opportunity to earn easy money.  
Congratulations.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-27 Thread shiretoko
You can get them for 220 € on amazon, installing replicant takes maybe half  
an hour...and you sell them for almost 400?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-26 Thread info
We've been testing the Note 2 for a month now and we're extremely happy with  
its performance running Replicant 6.0.


https://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/GalaxyNote2N7100

We have it in offer and we estimate it will become very popular very fast  
among free software users:


https://technoethical.com/mobile-devices/tet-n2

Having increased CPU speed (Quad-Core 1.6GHz vs. Quad-Core 1.4GHz in S3),  
double the RAM (2GB vs. 1GB in S3) and the same resolution (720x1280) as the  
S3 -- although the screen is bigger, the resolution is not more  
CPU-demanding, the graphics on N2 are faster than on S3, even faster than on  
S2 (which only runs with a Dual-Core 1.2GHz and 1GB RAM at a lower  
resolution).


Not only the graphics are faster, but freedom-respecting external WiFi in N2  
is even more stable than on the S3, thanks to the increased battery capacity  
(3100 mAh vs 2100 mAh in S3). In S2, external WiFi is less stable than on the  
S3.


https://technoethical.com/adapter
https://tehnoetic.com/adapters/tet-otg

Camera graphics in N2 don't have the latency one can notice in the S3 or S2.  
The S3 camera graphics are 1s-delayed compared to the N2, while the S2 camera  
graphics are ~0.5s-delayed compared to the N2.


The N2 also benefits from a built-in Wacom tablet that works with the fully  
free drivers in Replicant. A stylus comes with the phone and it's easily  
detachable/reattachable.


/tct


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-26 Thread jbahn
The S3 offers the benefit of a bigger screen and better hardware, e.g.  
camera. Unfortunately it comes with the disadvantage of slower response (e.g.  
to swipes, touches etc)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-26 Thread shiretoko

I own a galaxy s2 with replicant.
My demands are quite low, but still, to be completely honest, i wished for a  
bit more modern device...
It's a pain to look up directions, typing is not a lot of fun and among all  
the kids with their latest iphones, you sure look like a dinosaur.

Nevertheless, it works and does the job quite well.
The battery is still fine, i can make calls, write sms, communicate with my  
girlfriend via telegram and listen to music.


I don't have any experience with the galaxy s3, but maybe it would be a good  
alternative?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-26 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, I'm thinking of seeking legal advice, but this isn't priority
right now for me, just for a driver license, that might take months to
come, and money which I don't have. :)

I'd rather get a fixed/guaranteed job first before even thinking on
seeking lawyers and driver licenses.

Frankly, the traffic/driving here in Brazil is crazy, every driver seems
to be always angry, and they use so many cars and motorcycles (instead
of taking public transportation or bikes), that I don't think I want to
participate on this. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-25 Thread mcz
I wonder if they don't have the problems of cellphones. I mean if they can  
receive, they can be located I guess. I don't know.


Isn't that what the thugs use in the first season of "The Wire" (along with  
"burners")? Ah, even doctors still use that.
Nevertheless, pagers continue to be used by some emergency services and  
public safety personnel, because modern pager systems' coverage overlap,  
combined with use of satellite communications, can make paging systems more  
reliable than terrestrial based cellular networks in some cases, including  
during natural and man-made disaster.[2] This resilience has led public  
safety agencies to adopt pagers over cellular and other commercial services  
for critical messaging.[3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pager
Man, a pager as a watch displaying alphanumeric stuff is futuristic 80's  
stuff! Would be cool to read emails and sms (though it would probably require  
a modem).


Ah, regarding privacy (a bit lower on the Wiki page)
Pagers also have privacy advantages compared with cellular phones. Since a  
one-way pager is a passive receiver only (it sends no information back to the  
base station), its location cannot be tracked. However, this can also be  
disadvantageous, as a message sent to a pager must be broadcast from every  
paging transmitter in the pager's service area. Thus, if a pager has  
nationwide service, a message sent to it could be intercepted by criminals or  
law enforcement agencies anywhere within the nationwide service area.

So, passive receiver only, that's cool.
But since the message sent to a pager is broadcast, it's easier to intercept.  
Not a good idea for emails (supposing it's possible to receive them on a  
pager), if there's bank or connection data.


More intereting stuff:
Types of paging

There are two different kinds of paging: limited range and wide-area. As the  
name suggests, limited-range paging sends messages over a relatively small  
area using a low-powered transmitter. It's perfect for sending emergency  
messages to all the doctors in a hospital, for example. Wide-area paging is  
more like national radio broadcasting. A system of radio transmitters sends  
pager messages across a whole country in hopes that you'll be somewhere near  
one of them. In the UK, for example, the wide-area paging network uses  
something like 500 transmitter antennas—more than enough to cover a country  
that size.

http://www.explainthatstuff.com/howpagerswork.html

It's also faster to receive than cellphones.

Well, that sucks:
A big drawback of using pagers is that, if you don't receive a message  
(because you're out of range or your pager is switched off), there's no way  
either you (or the sender) can find out about it. That's very different from  
SMS text messaging (where the sending system will keep trying until the  
message finally gets through) or email (where undelivered messages bounce  
back sooner or later). A good practice with pagers is for the sender to keep  
resending the same message periodically until the receiver finally responds.  
So if you give someone your pager number, tell them how to use it at the same  
time, especially if you're mainly using your pager for emergency contact:  
"Keep on paging me until I respond."


That's cool.
they’re low-maintenance. The batteries in pagers don’t need to be changed  
more than once every few weeks, even with heavy use. That means the system  
will work even during a disaster or power outage, when it might be hard to  
find a working outlet to charge a cellphone.

-
Paging networks have more broadcast power than those for cellphones, which  
makes the signals better at penetrating buildings. They also rely on  
satellites to relay messages. As a result, pager messages are broadcast to  
multiple towers in a given area at the same time. That boosts reliability  
because even if one pager tower stopped working, another could pick up the  
satellite’s signal.



https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9468120
Here it seems to confirm that to receive a page, it must communicate with the  
cell tower (or sattelite, or both). But the cell towers need a constant  
signal sent from the device, so it doesn't make much sense.


In a nutshell,
if it's off or out of range, the page is lost.
A page can be intercepted, but I guess and sms can be as well.
Supposedly, it can't be tracked because it doesn't send data.
It has better battery life, better signal reception,
it's faster to receive than sms (sometimes it takes days).

Combined with a turned off phone, it can be a good idea.
The best would be some redirection towards the pager,
so the phone can keep track of potentially lost calls.

Now, how practical would that be IRL?
Phone off, getting beeps/vibrations all day, maybe text messages. At work I  
can use the land line, while moving I can turn my phone up. Sounds good  
actually.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-25 Thread jbahn

I second that question?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-25 Thread svhaab

>the later which my doctor said I cannot have/make

Brazilian law is unknown to me. And if the physician is right. I would not  
expect him to have best knowledge about driver licenses. Often laws provides  
options about limited driver licenses. Limitations on speed. Have you sought  
legal advice? If you do not want to employ a lawyer, maybe brazil has a legal  
aid system?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-25 Thread mcz

Just out of curiosity, why is Replicant out of the question for you?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-25 Thread csh
I would LOVE a one-way pager.  They don't have the problems of cellphones,  
which report themselves to towers.  All they can do is receive transmissions.


However, every one-way pager I've seen is reprogrammable, which means it's a  
computer. Could someone please find a one-way pager that is not  
reprogrammable?


Also, could the pager be really small?  I would like to put it inside a  
personal object that I will not discuss here.


Pagers need not be reliant on the pay phone infrastructure.  If I got a page,  
I would ask to use any phone nearby, whether it was an office landline or a  
stranger's cell.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-25 Thread jbahn
Replicant phones have the option to use encrypted communication. But this  
requires for your contacts to be willing to use encrypted communication as  
well, and many don't care or at least are not willing to take the  
inconveniences. Hence regarding the communication it self, your flip-phone is  
probably as private as my Replicant phone (I use the Silence app, but non of  
my contacts do, so no encryption there). Still, we don't know what the  
software in it does or does not do with your communications.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread jodiendo

Heather

IN THIS DECADE THEY CALL TEXTING INSTEAD OF PAGING. BUT FOR THe mange

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread noordinaryspider
Another extreme and retro idea that wouldn't work for me but might work for  
others is a pager.


Can you still get those? Does anyone know if they are enough of an  
improvement over flip phones to be worth the trouble?


There were designed for a world that still had pay phones, so they might not  
work for everybody, but if Zem Mattress is in a small enough town that s/he  
could run home or back to the office to use the landline in an emergency it  
might work.


My ex had one of those in the '80s-'90sish and we had all these private  
numerical codes for "Could you pick up a loaf of bread on the way home from  
work?" and the like.


Good times, good times.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread noordinaryspider
I believe that you are correct. I just use it for voice calls and sms  
messaging and it is a "least of the evils" solution for my own unique  
circumstances.


The kiddos would give me the latest iPhone if I asked them, but Replicant is  
out of the question.


I'm enjoying listening to you guys talk, and who knows, dumpster diving +  
knowledge has = freedom for me in the past so maybe it will in the future  
too.


If I don't give someone else a chance to talk now, then no amount of dumpster  
luck is going to do me a darned bit of good without the knowledge that isn't  
in my head yet.


Carry on.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread mcz

I might be mistaken, but a flip phone isn't better.
The modem is still able to track you.
And you can be sure that none of the software in there is free. You can't  
browse the web with Tor, you can't use F-droid apps.


Else, more solid (or like, cheaper so damage isn't as bad), better battery  
life (can be compensated with external or internal batteries).


So, no flip  phone for me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread handala
Thank you, good people.  This is interesting and helpful. Yes: I would rather  
have land line only, but I'm a primary care giver for my parents so I need to  
be available wherever I am.


Liking the idea of a flip phone because I don't want to surf the net or take  
endless pictures of food, etc.  I just want to talk to people and text when  
necessary.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn
That is more or less the same as in Denmark (200 BRL would be really cheap  
and 600 BRL quite expensive).


Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
If you are talking about Samsung Galaxy S2 --- that is: not rebranded
--- it varies between 200.00--600.00 BRL, not considering the taxes that
the end-user has to pay.

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  gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre, por isso não uso. Iguais a ele prefiro
  GNU Ring, ou Tox. Quer outras formas de contato? Adicione o vCard
  que está no endereço acima aos teus contatos.
- Pretende me enviar arquivos .doc, .ppt, .cdr, ou .mp3? OK, eu
  aceito, mas não repasso. Entrego apenas em formatos favoráveis ao
  /software/ livre. Favor entrar em contato em caso de dúvida.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn
You probably have a good choice of a phone but I have often been thinking how  
much we (don't) know about the older devices in regards of privacy...


Somebody, please enlighten me


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread jodiendo




SuperTramp83 said:
And I plan to arrive earlier so that I almost always show up on time. Sadly  
though, people with trackers often do not show up on time (or at all)... and  
they blame you for not carrying a cell phone that they would have used to  
warn you at the last minute!


That excuse sounds like a technological breakthrough of more Bull-excuses OF  
a very DODGING person...YOU ARE FIRED!!!, YOU WILL PASS GO AND WILL NOT  
COLLECT 200 DOLLARS FOR YOUR VENOUS ATTITUDE.


AGENT 313 is scanning FOR DIGITAL FOOT PRINTS , THE MANGE IS BEEN TRACK SIR:


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread kete

https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread noordinaryspider
Replicant doesn't seem to be in the cards for me. I carry the most minimal  
flip phone possible and leave it at home often enough that my adult kids  
would throw a fit if they ever found out.


They don't like it and are constantly offering to buy me smartphones and  
reminding me that I don't HAVE to carry an $X phone and that they think I am  
way too young for the model I had to settle on, which is designed for senior  
citizens.


It has a wonderful effect on cashiers and other random AFK people who want to  
collect personal info to spam me. All I really have to do is pull it out,  
look at it, shrug my shoulders and act confused, and then put it away again.


J.B. Nicholson-Owens' post is absolutely the best ever though. I would  
totally follow his advice if I didn't have this family.


We put the "fun" back in "dysfunctional". ;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn
My 'research' has let me to the conclusion that for now the Galaxy S2 is the  
best choice, especially with your needs (they look like mine).


It loads the latest version of Replicant and though other devices (e.g.  
Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2) have better hardware specs, it has a handier  
size. Perhaps most importantly, it runs smoother than others.


Just recall: Freedom comes with the relative price of inconvenience (which in  
my opinion is a better currency than is privacy)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn

I wish people would let other people's stuff be.

Just out of curiosity, how much is an S2 in Brazil?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread greatgnu
>And I plan to arrive earlier so that I almost always show up on time. Sadly  
though, people with trackers often do not show up on time (or at all)... and  
they blame you for not carrying a cell phone that they would have used to  
warn you at the last minute!


yeah, dang h00mans :/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-24 Thread mcz
Yes, for example, all the Neo900 can do is to guarantee that turning off the  
modem will actually do that. For a high price.


Unfortunately, for work, it's rather difficult to live without one. At best,  
one can use Airplane mode on Galaxy S2 (supposedly, no signal goes out after  
a reboot), or remove the battery when not at work. Actually I'll start trying  
to use it that way (maybe attempt to write a script which switches that based  
on the current time).


The next best choice is a Replicant-supported phone, because the tracking is  
left "only" to the modem, not to other services (Goolge).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-23 Thread calmstorm

if you want a truly free one, its almost 1000$ neo900 aka

but I suspect you want something cheaper...

so try, n7100 galaxy note 2 or other replicant choices which are supported by  
replicant 6.0


just a thought. ;)


[Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-06-23 Thread john_harvey

Hello all my iPhone finally died. Huzzah!

I would like some recommendations for replacements.

I'm an end user, with just some basic skills in installing my own distros and  
running them.  But my knowlege is limited.


I would like to go libre on my next phone, so is there a relatively trouble  
free way for me to get that done and move on?


I just want to make calls, and text.  I don't care about frills or even a  
camera.


I would prefer a cheaper one, which I would buy outright, rather than rent  
(ugh).



What phone would you recommend, and what OS is easy enough to install for a  
simple lad as myself?  Is Replicant easy to install, and run trouble free?



Thanks for any help.

Zem