Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his dietplan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution tolose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothingelse. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves!I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Biblesuggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your"new year's resolutions"; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic?Izzy--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
Im intrigued by it, but have doubts about my ability to give up carbs TOTALLY for even two weeks! Also I read it once before and thought there was no way I could eat such an abnormal diet for the rest of my life. I have an acquaintance who has been on the INITIAL part of the diet for many yearsher liver is being destroyed!!! Of course, you are not told to do that at all. How do you eat today, Laura, on the modified diet? How much weight have you lost on the diet? Id sure like to loose at least 5 lbs before going to Palm Springs in 3 weeks! J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? In a message dated 1/6/2003 9:39:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I didn't see the program but am familiar with this diet. In fact it worked for me and I still follow a modified form of Atkins diet. What was your opinion??? I think there is some truth to avoiding refined sugar and excessive carbs.. Laura
Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion.ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels;ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his dietplan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution tolose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothingelse. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves!I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Biblesuggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your"new year's resolutions"; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic?Izzy--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [TruthTalk] Legalism and Grace
Marlin wrote: I see the Law as being behind our will. In other words, what makes us able to choose to do right, what makes us want to choose to do what is right, this is all the work of the Law in our lives. The law has the power to do this by setting the definition of right from wrong. You seem to keep ignoring Romans 7. We are not able to choose to do right simply by the law. Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, YE ALSO ARE BECOME DEAD TO THE LAW BY THE BODY OF CHRIST; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. Rom 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, WHICH WERE BY THE LAW, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto DEATH. Rom 7:6 But NOW WE ARE DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. ... Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. Read carefully the next verse: Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. You wrote that the law makes us able to choose to do right. This is not what Paul says in Roman 7:18. Paul said, how to perform that which is good I find not. This is describing life under the law without the Spirit of Christ within us. Is it possible that you have not yet experienced the Holy Spirit as per Romans 8? Is it possible that you know only of the life of Romans 7, the life of being under law? I'm just asking, not accusing. You seem to keep dodging Romans 7, and I don't know if it is because you don't understand Romans 7 or if we are just not communicating very well. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Marlin: We are Christians. We are not Jews living by the law. I suggest you look at what our savior had to say. (Mark 7:18-22) (Acts 10:9-15). These statements supercede the OT regulations. If you choose to go with the law, you not only do not get any pork chops, you don't get any oysters, shrimp, lobster, crab, or catfish! No wonder the Jews couldn't keep the law. Nobody can live like that. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 09:38:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion.ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels;ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his dietplan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution tolose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothingelse. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves!I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Biblesuggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your"new year's resolutions"; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic?Izzy--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
Hi Marlin, So whats the point? Are you saying we still should not be eating pork (and mice?). I know that is a big controversy. Most Believers think that Peters vision about all foods being declared clean means that we can eat anything now. Do you disagree? Id appreciate your input. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion. ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels; ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Bible suggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your new year's resolutions; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic? Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
Oh, golly! I thought giving up carbs was bad enough! :-) How do you get past the urge to eat food??? I'd actually like to do this. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Izzy wrote: I'd sure like to loose at least 5 lbs before going to Palm Springs in 3 weeks! What's wrong with fasting? Fast 5 days and follow it with moderation in eating. You can easily meet your 5 lb. goal doing that. The Pharisees fasted two days a week, and so did the early Christians according to the Didache (~150 A.D.). I often wonder if they knew something most of our culture has forgotten. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
[TruthTalk] RE:Godly diet?
Terry, Actually I know plenty of people who live like that. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Marlin: We are Christians. We are not Jews living by the law. I suggest you look at what our savior had to say. (Mark 7:18-22) (Acts 10:9-15). These statements supercede the OT regulations. If you choose to go with the law, you not only do not get any pork chops, you don't get any oysters, shrimp, lobster, crab, or catfish! No wonder the Jews couldn't keep the law. Nobody can live like that. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 09:38:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion. ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels; ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Bible suggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your new year's resolutions; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic? Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
Terry, It was disobedience to Gods commandments that got Eve into troubleand just might have the same effect upon us. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Izzy I prefer my squid battered and deep fried, and I will pass on the mice. I have the wonderful freedom to make those choices. You might try going the vegetarian route. It seems to have worked real well for Daniel, though it got Eve in a bit of trouble. Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 08:47:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Terry, I agree. But do I really WANT to eat mice, or uncooked squid And of the things I do eat, what are the best proportions? Everything is not so simple! J By suggest I mean that scripture does not write a formal diet plan, but sometimes we can see a pattern that is good. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Bible suggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your new year's resolutions; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic? Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
Peter said that he never ate the creaturesin the vision, and there is no record that he did. When the vision ended, he did not sit down and pig out on mice and swine. The scripture clearly shows that it was a vision to Peter to help him receive Cornelius. The problem came withthe influence of Judaism which has its own vocabulary aside from the scripture. Judaism designated people as "unclean" or "common." The Lord did not want Peter to practice Judaism, and call somebody"unclean" that God had made clean. Peter got the message when Cornelius came to the door. God's people are not to eat unclean food. God's people are not to partake of unclean spirits. "Christians" want to do both through what they ingest physically and through what they celebrate that is Pagan in origin. God's people are supposed to be able to discern the clean from the unclean, and to have discernment of spirits. Clean and unclean meats pre-date Noah and the sweet "Law of Moses" which came from God. Gentiles may eat unclean food. Israelites were permitted to sell swine to the Gentiles, who could do whatever they wished with them. I could go into the reasons why, and how God has a worm causing trichinosis that infects pigs; and then "Christians" will say that we have refrigerators now and, besides, we feed our pigs good feed. That is not the issue, really. The real issue is this: "If you love me, keep the commandments." I love God. I fear God. I honor His Word. If somebody wants to eat a mouse, let it not be me. Yuk. --Marlin - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Hi Marlin, So whats the point? Are you saying we still should not be eating pork (and mice?). I know that is a big controversy. Most Believers think that Peters vision about all foods being declared clean means that we can eat anything now. Do you disagree? Id appreciate your input. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin HalversonSent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:38 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion.ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels;ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his dietplan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution tolose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothingelse. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves!I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Biblesuggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your"new year's resolutions"; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic?Izzy--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you
Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet?
I do think that whole grains and avoiding enriched flour is a good idea. We could go crazy with Biblical dietary laws if we tried. Don't you think a lot of their laws concerning food were because they had no way to preserve it and cook it properly? Laura
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Marlin: It is true that God was setting Peter up to meet Cornelius. Still, what God has called clean, you have no right to call unclean. How do you avoid the words of Jesus in Mark 7:18-22? I would really like to know what keeps your mind focused on things that never applied to you, unless you are a Jew trusting the law instead of the work of Jesus for avoiding eternity in Hell. Quizzically, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 15:21:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Peter said that he never ate the creaturesin the vision, and there is no record that he did. When the vision ended, he did not sit down and pig out on mice and swine. The scripture clearly shows that it was a vision to Peter to help him receive Cornelius. The problem came withthe influence of Judaism which has its own vocabulary aside from the scripture. Judaism designated people as "unclean" or "common." The Lord did not want Peter to practice Judaism, and call somebody"unclean" that God had made clean. Peter got the message when Cornelius came to the door. God's people are not to eat unclean food. God's people are not to partake of unclean spirits. "Christians" want to do both through what they ingest physically and through what they celebrate that is Pagan in origin. God's people are supposed to be able to discern the clean from the unclean, and to have discernment of spirits. Clean and unclean meats pre-date Noah and the sweet "Law of Moses" which came from God. Gentiles may eat unclean food. Israelites were permitted to sell swine to the Gentiles, who could do whatever they wished with them. I could go into the reasons why, and how God has a worm causing trichinosis that infects pigs; and then "Christians" will say that we have refrigerators now and, besides, we feed our pigs good feed. That is not the issue, really. The real issue is this: "If you love me, keep the commandments." I love God. I fear God. I honor His Word. If somebody wants to eat a mouse, let it not be me. Yuk. --Marlin - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Hi Marlin, So whats the point? Are you saying we still should not be eating pork (and mice?). I know that is a big controversy. Most Believers think that Peters vision about all foods being declared clean means that we can eat anything now. Do you disagree? Id appreciate your input. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin HalversonSent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:38 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion.ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels;ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his dietplan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution tolose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothingelse. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves!I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Biblesuggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your"new year's resolutions"; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic?Izzy--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. IncrediMail -
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I wonder if anyone has done any scientific studies on the benefits, if any, of avoiding the unclean foods specified in the OT. It seems that all of them are scavengers. We do know that decayed foods, which scavengers eat, are full of free radicals, which have been associated with causing cancer. I dont know for sure if God still considers them unclean or not, but there must have been good reason for Him to ban them in the first place. I would be interested in what you can say about why God caused swine to have trichinosis. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Peter said that he never ate the creaturesin the vision, and there is no record that he did. When the vision ended, he did not sit down and pig out on mice and swine. The scripture clearly shows that it was a vision to Peter to help him receive Cornelius. The problem came withthe influence of Judaism which has its own vocabulary aside from the scripture. Judaism designated people as unclean or common. The Lord did not want Peter to practice Judaism, and call somebodyunclean that God had made clean. Peter got the message when Cornelius came to the door. God's people are not to eat unclean food. God's people are not to partake of unclean spirits. Christians want to do both through what they ingest physically and through what they celebrate that is Pagan in origin. God's people are supposed to be able to discern the clean from the unclean, and to have discernment of spirits. Clean and unclean meats pre-date Noah and the sweet Law of Moses which came from God. Gentiles may eat unclean food. Israelites were permitted to sell swine to the Gentiles, who could do whatever they wished with them. I could go into the reasons why, and how God has a worm causing trichinosis that infects pigs; and then Christians will say that we have refrigerators now and, besides, we feed our pigs good feed. That is not the issue, really. The real issue is this: If you love me, keep the commandments. I love God. I fear God. I honor His Word. If somebody wants to eat a mouse, let it not be me. Yuk. --Marlin - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Hi Marlin, So whats the point? Are you saying we still should not be eating pork (and mice?). I know that is a big controversy. Most Believers think that Peters vision about all foods being declared clean means that we can eat anything now. Do you disagree? Id appreciate your input. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion. ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels; ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Bible suggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your new year's resolutions; can anyone offer suggestions on
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Among other things, some of them do eat tofu! And they arent trying to take off 5lbs like I am! Those are the vegetarians. Others are Jews, who eat quite well, thank you. At least the Jewish cooking I have benefited from was quite wonderful! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] RE:Godly diet? You have got to be kidding! What do those poor souls eat, Tofu? They sure can't be from the South. Terry - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] RE:Godly diet? Terry, Actually I know plenty of people who live like that. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Marlin: We are Christians. We are not Jews living by the law. I suggest you look at what our savior had to say. (Mark 7:18-22) (Acts 10:9-15). These statements supercede the OT regulations. If you choose to go with the law, you not only do not get any pork chops, you don't get any oysters, shrimp, lobster, crab, or catfish! No wonder the Jews couldn't keep the law. Nobody can live like that. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 09:38:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion. ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels; ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Bible suggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your new year's resolutions; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic? Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
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Better yet, if only she had been obedient to God! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Just think. If Eve had only been carniverous! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Terry, It was disobedience to Gods commandments that got Eve into troubleand just might have the same effect upon us. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Izzy I prefer my squid battered and deep fried, and I will pass on the mice. I have the wonderful freedom to make those choices. You might try going the vegetarian route. It seems to have worked real well for Daniel, though it got Eve in a bit of trouble. Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 08:47:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Terry, I agree. But do I really WANT to eat mice, or uncooked squid And of the things I do eat, what are the best proportions? Everything is not so simple! J By suggest I mean that scripture does not write a formal diet plan, but sometimes we can see a pattern that is good. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his diet plan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution to lose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothing else. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves! I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Bible suggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your new year's resolutions; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic? Izzy -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
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In a message dated 1/7/2003 5:29:07 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But if you want to eat pork, I shall not get in your way. They say you only live once. Enjoy. :-) What besides pork do you avoid? Just curious. Laura
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In a message dated 1/7/2003 5:29:33 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about love? Do we obey the One we love? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I do think that whole grains and avoiding enriched flour is a good idea. We could go crazy with Biblical dietary laws if we tried. Don't you think a lot of their laws concerning food were because they had no way to preserve it and cook it properly? Laura Marlin What does your comment have to do with mine? Of course I obey the one I love. I assume you are referring to obedience to God/Christ. Laura
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AMEN! ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 17:40:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Better yet, if only she had been obedient to God! Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:57 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Just think. If Eve had only been carniverous! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Terry, It was disobedience to Gods commandments that got Eve into troubleand just might have the same effect upon us. J Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:53 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Izzy I prefer my squid battered and deep fried, and I will pass on the mice. I have the wonderful freedom to make those choices. You might try going the vegetarian route. It seems to have worked real well for Daniel, though it got Eve in a bit of trouble. Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 08:47:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Terry, I agree. But do I really WANT to eat mice, or uncooked squid And of the things I do eat, what are the best proportions? Everything is not so simple! J By suggest I mean that scripture does not write a formal diet plan, but sometimes we can see a pattern that is good. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:40 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his dietplan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution tolose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothingelse. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves!I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Biblesuggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your"new year's resolutions"; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic?Izzy--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
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You have got to be kidding! What do those poor souls eat, Tofu? They sure can't be from the South. Terry - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] RE:Godly diet? Terry, Actually I know plenty of people who live like that. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry CliftonSent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:42 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? Marlin: We are Christians. We are not Jews living by the law. I suggest you look at what our savior had to say. (Mark 7:18-22) (Acts 10:9-15). These statements supercede the OT regulations. If you choose to go with the law, you not only do not get any pork chops, you don't get any oysters, shrimp, lobster, crab, or catfish! No wonder the Jews couldn't keep the law. Nobody can live like that. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 09:38:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? PRO 11:22 [As] a jewel of gold in a swine's snout, [so is] a fair woman which is without discretion.ISA 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable [things is in] their vessels;ISA 66:3 He that killeth an ox [is as if] he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, [as if] he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, [as if he offered] swine's blood; he that burneth incense, [as if] he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.ISA 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? The Bible does not suggest. It states plainly that we can eat anything . What goes into man is not important. What comes out of man is. What ia suggested, is moderation. Blessings, Terry ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, January 06, 2003 21:39:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Godly diet? I just watched Dr. Atkins interviewed on Larry King Live about his dietplan. At this time of the year it seems that everyone has a resolution tolose weight, and TV commercials and programs seem to talk about nothingelse. One screwy diet after another, all contradicting themselves!I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what kind of diet, if any, the Biblesuggests that we should follow. Since you folks provided ZERO input on your"new year's resolutions"; can anyone offer suggestions on this topic?Izzy--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be
