Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "The Boys" spinoff a go at Amazon

[Ben Combee]

episode four, I think you mean.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 2:41 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I'll throw this in here... now in season four, the envy-heavy series now
> enters a new pantheon of the bizarre, with a "cocksplosion"...
>
> https://variety.com/2023/tv/features/gen-v-penis-explosion-sex-scene-1235746639/
>  (link)
> B
>
> Moi, to M-D November, July 16th 2022:
>
> People may have said as much about Beth(lehem) Million
> 
> (link to thread), whom besides that movie mentioned, was also in two
> episodes of *And Just Like That...* as "Smoke".
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick Review: Mrs Davis

[Ben Combee]

I'm almost done with this and my wife and I both love it.  It's not
quite as inventive as Severance, my favorite show of 2022, but it's
holding my attention very well.

On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 6:40 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
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> It’s streaming on Peacock and I watched it as reviewers I trust called it 
> bonkers TV and deeply weird. It’s an adventure story wrapped in a sci-fi 
> concept as Mrs Davis is a Big Brother like algorithm who communicates with 
> people through smartphones and air pods. I watched the whole series even 
> though it never really caught me. I can predict it’s going to get a cult 
> following and Betty Gilpin deserves at least an Emmy nomination.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Big Chunk of WBD Content Lands on Roku

[Ben Combee]

You also can play content at therokuchannel.roku.com on a device's web browser.

On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 12:41 PM M-D November  wrote:
>
> I stand corrected - they only have SmartTV apps for Samsung TVs and Amazon 
> Fire sticks (and Roku boxes, naturally).
>
> Could you AirPlay from an iOS device to the AppleTV?  I'll have to attempt it.
>
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. wrote:
>>
>> I have Apple TV and the app doesn’t work on our two “smart” TVs
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 9:13 AM M-D November  wrote:
>>>
>>> Roku Channel is already free; it just requires sign-up.  I'm pretty sure 
>>> there's an app for every major platform EXCEPT AppleTV (and possible 
>>> GoogleTV/Chromecast) because...you know.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:10:39 AM UTC-4 Kevin M. wrote:

 Since we as taxpayers are apparently covering the millions Roku lost in 
 the aftermath of the Silicon Valley Bank, maybe should all get the service 
 for free?

 On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 7:48 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>
> The most noteworthy titles on the twelve channels on the streaming stick 
> branded as WBTV are the HBO and HBO Max shows on the Watchlist channel 
> canned by Daddy Zaslav, including "Westworld" and "Raised by Wolves," but 
> the package, although including WB TV shows and movies (the one movie 
> channel is primarily from the last 50 years, not exactly infringing on 
> TCM), is predominately the Discovery library of docs and reality shows 
> (and no Looney Tunes or Hanna-Barbera channels):
>
> https://www.thewrap.com/westworld-hbo-max-shows-streaming-on-roku-channel/?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=breaking_news_7239365
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Study: 61% say streamers overpriced

[Ben Combee]

That analysis has the wrong pricing for Netflix, in my opinion. The
$9.99 price is for the basic plan which isn't HD and only allows one
screen.  I'd expect lots of subs are for the standard ($15.49) or
premium ($19.99) plans that allow higher resolutions and more streams
at one time.  It also misses that many streamers have ad-supported
plans for lower cost, including Hulu, Peacock, and Paramount+.  When I
last heard numbers from Hulu, about 70% of their subs were
ad-supported 
(https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/hulu-ad-supported-subscribers-70-percent-1203227954/).
I bet a lot of users now are on the D+/Hulu/ESPN+ bundle too which has
the ad-supported Hulu as default.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 12:43 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
> The Variety article is a recap of a Fandom press release with no critical eye 
> or assessment of if the Fandom numbers mean anything. The survey is self 
> selecting and the data gathered respond to one small group who are already 
> committed to streaming TV and not the general population. Asking people for 
> an opinion of a fair price can be meaningless. There is a true metric for 
> finding out what people will pay for a streaming platform which is how many 
> quit when the price goes up. Using the survey to give solid advice to 
> streamers is like going to financial traders after closing time and asking 
> why the market went up or down 20 points and what investors should do.
>
> Netflix is having trouble because they were first out of the gate and they 
> had a huge library of old movies and TV shows. They added prestige movies and 
> series. Now competitors have sprung up who took the rights to the libraries 
> and turn out their own prestige series and series. Netflix has to find a 
> different way to keep growing.
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:45 AM PGage  wrote:
>>
>> So I did a bit of a deep dive into this (though may have hit my head on a 
>> few rocks). I don’t think the main take-a-way from the survey is that 
>> streaming is overpriced (in fact, of the 8 premium streamers considered, 
>> three are viewed as actually underpriced).
>>
>>
>> One thing to keep in mind is the survey is done by Fandom, and the 
>> population is their members, not the US at large. I am not that familiar 
>> with Fandom, but from what I gather it caters to kind of super and online 
>> fans of consumer entertainment. I suspect they skew younger than the US 
>> population as a whole
>>
>>
>> Fandom seems to think the main take away is that the most important 
>> characteristic for streamers is “genre” – that consumers sign up for 
>> specific programs initially, but stay because they will find additional and 
>> consistent content in the genre that first attracted them. They argue that 
>> churn is most likely when new subscribers don’t know what to watch next on 
>> the service, and rather than search for new content, they unsubscribe and 
>> maybe go elsewhere.
>>
>>
>> This seems unlikely to me, mostly because it runs counter to what we know 
>> happened with cable TV, where narrowcasting, genre based programming 
>> inevitably gave way to more broadbanded, less predictable programming. The 
>> Fandom analysis will inevitably favor Disney+, which offers clear genre 
>> based programming; if you signed up to watch Black Widow, or Encanto, or 
>> Solo, you are very likely to find other programming on the service that you 
>> will also be interested in. But, if you are not a child, adolescent or young 
>> adult, this may not be very important to you. I find so far I have probably 
>> saved money with my Disney+ subscription compared to the cost of going to a 
>> theater to see current and archival Marvel and Star Wars films just to be 
>> able to discuss with my young adult children.
>>
>>
>> I find the survey most helpful as an indicator of which streamers are seen 
>> as most desirable or worthy. The average US home has about 4.5 streaming 
>> services, but the fastest growing services are the “Free Ad-supported 
>> Streaming TV (FAST) services (like TUBI or IMDTV, or whatever that is called 
>> now). I could not find a good source on the average number of premium 
>> services a US household subscribes to (and there are more than just the big 
>> 8 discussed in this survey), but lets say that households that subscribe to 
>> any premium service at all average 3. Kevin reports his 3 are Paramount, 
>> Disney and Apple+. In the survey, the top three ranked streamers clearly 
>> are: Netflix, HBO-M and Disney+. If I had to limit myself to 3 it would 
>> probably be Netflix, HBO-M and Apple+ (I would miss Amazon the most of the 
>> rest, but could pay a la carte for most of what I wanted). The list below is 
>> in order of how much Fandom members thought each service was worth, and also 
>> includes the actual cost, and the percent above or below the estimated worth 
>> each service is. Note that the actual cost is complicated by the offering of 
>> multiple tiers – in each case I intended 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: TCM rebranding in the works?

[Ben Combee]

CC also matches with the Criterion Channel, the streaming service that
focuses on classic and arthouse cinema, in conjunction with the
Criterion Collection, publishers of DVD/Blue-Ray version of many great
films.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 11:59 AM M-D November  wrote:
>
> Let's not panic just yet - as you said, this may simply be a rebrand to 
> excise the lingering spirit of Ted Turner.
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:40:11 PM UTC-4 Paul Murray wrote:
>>
>> Every time that Time Warner changes hands, I hold my breath about Turner 
>> Classic Movies -- or as I call it, The Single Best Reason to Have Cable. 
>> (Okay, I don't have it, but my significant other does.) TCM is pretty close 
>> to perfect, in my eyes.
>>
>> So when I got "An Important Email" today from TCM talking about "while 
>> classic is forever, we here at TCM are thinking it’s time for a refresh" and 
>> linking to this very short promo ...
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5OLMOjQ4CU
>>
>> ... I get a bit nervous.
>>
>> Watch closely at the video's end and the TCM logo does a slot machine 
>> transition to a pair of Cs, one inside the other. (Cinema Classics? Classic 
>> Cinema?)
>>
>> I'm not alone. The YouTube comments are full of angst.
>>
>> I hope it's nothing more than cosmetic rebranding and getting "Turner" out 
>> of the name.  We shall find out at noon next Wednesday.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] IMDbTV [Was: Norman Lear…]

[Ben Combee]

Some content is licensed to only show on AVOD (ad-supported
video-on-demand) services so ads are required.  That's the same way as
it works for a lot of what's on The Roku Channel.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 7:45 PM PGage  wrote:
>
> I was just finishing. Re-watch of original Leverage (commercial-free on AMC+) 
> in preparation for “Lev Redemption” when this was first posted; now have 
> completed Redemption. I want to learn more about IMBdTV.
>
> I have watched it a bit before (to catch a few episodes of Banacek). My 
> daughter did a “Fringe” rewatch there a while back.
>
> On the one hand, I just despise commercials, and pay on Hulu and Paramount to 
> avoid them. IMDb apparently does not even offer a premium, commercial free 
> option. I hate it. Buy, not as much as I hate the horrid Peacock, so either 
> the ads are less obnoxious, or there are fewer of them. OTOH, they have a 
> pretty decent lineup of classic shows (is Redemption their first original?).
>
> Is there a reason that insisting on an ad supported model is better 
> financially than at least offering a subscription model? It kind of feels to 
> me like someone is trying to seduce me back into accepting commercials as a 
> fact of TV watching life, maybe hoping that will get me to watch broadcast TV 
> ads again (not bloody likely).
>
> BTW, Redemption was definitely lesser Leverage, but still recognizably 
> Leverage, and so still preferable to many shows that are not Leverage.
>
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 9:30 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
>>
>> IMDBtv is also home to the new episodes of Leverage (Timothy Bottoms the 
>> only original lead not involved here, Noah Wyle plays a new character on the 
>> team).
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Thursday, July 15, 2021, 7:27:51 PM PDT, PGage  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I’ve been using it, reluctantly (lots of ads).
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 7:42 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>> IMDb TV?
>>
>> I'll have to look into that.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed., Jul. 14, 2021, 10:27 p.m. 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV, 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Deadline: "227" and "Diff’rent Strokes" will launch on Prime Video tomorrow, 
>> July 15. "The Jeffersons," "Sanford & Son," and "Sanford" will launch on the 
>> SVOD service later in 2021.
>>
>> "All in the Family," "Good Times," "Maude," and "One Day at a Time" will 
>> also launch July 15 but on IMDb TV. This will be the first time that 
>> episodes of "Maude" and all seasons of "All in the Family" are available to 
>> stream.
>>
>> Most series' entire runs will be available, while some will release in 
>> two-year spurts.
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2021/07/good-times-all-in-the-family-the-jeffersons-maude-amazon-prime-video-imdb-tv-streaming-norman-lear-1234791354/
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: New Streamer from AT

[Ben Combee]

Obviously you've not delved into the 30+ seasons of "How It's Made" on
Discovery+.  This was reason enough for us to do an ad-free
subscription.

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:46 AM M-D November  wrote:
>
> I'm getting a serious case of streamer whiplash.
>
> Here's what I've inferred from some of the articles I've seen about this 
> story today:
>
> HBOMax is doing well, but the content isn't varied enough
> Discovery+ sucks on toast*
> Let's create a streaming Voltron to take on Disney+ and Netflix
>
> *OK, that's me editorializing a bit based on my own experience; I got a free 
> month and couldn't find anything compelling enough to get me to re-up, even 
> with 2 youngins' in the house. Folding that content into HBOMax just makes 
> more sense (and ends up being a better value proposition for HBOMax's high 
> cost of entry, assuming you don't get access via your cableco account.  (I 
> never understood why Discovery+ was a stand-alone service anyway.)
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:38:08 AM UTC-4 PGage wrote:
>>
>> AT announced Monday plans to spin off its content divisions (e.g. CNN, 
>> HBO, TNT, TBS, Warners, etc) and merge them with new acquisitions from 
>> Discovery (e.g. Food Network, Animal Planet, etc) to create a new streaming 
>> company on a scale to compete with Netflix and Disney (not yet approved by 
>> the Feds).
>>
>> Not clear, at least to me, what this will mean for current HBO Max 
>> subscribers. Will a subscription to Max just give access to all this other 
>> content? Will they charge even more for subscription to the new (currently 
>> unnamed) streaming service? That seems unlikely, as the market is already 
>> saturated, and new players have to focus more on market share than 
>> maximizing profit.
>>
>> “Combined, AT and Discovery will invest about $20 billion a year in 
>> content, executives said in a news conference. Zaslav said the new company, 
>> which has not yet been named, boasts 200,000 hours of content across a range 
>> of programming genres on “day one,” from sports to blockbuster films and 
>> reality shows.”
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/05/17/att-discovery-hbo-cnn/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon and Roku in standoff with HBO Max and Peacock

[Ben Combee]

I have a HBO Max subscription directly with HBO -- I got the annual
deal before launch.  I can use those credentials to log into HBO Now
on my Roku TVs.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:14 PM PGage  wrote:
>
> I noticed that, but the original instructions I got seemed to suggest that we 
> would still be able to access the Max content even without going through the 
> HBO Now App, but not sure how to do that.
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 6:45 PM Joe Hass  wrote:
>>
>> Short answer: no; on July 31, the other apps are being shut down.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 8:43 PM PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been streaming HBOMax on Fire Stick following instructions widely 
>>> available online to work around this (Amazon is blocking the Max App, not 
>>> the content). But even so I access it through the HBO Now App, not sure 
>>> from this article if I will still be able to do this after July 31
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:01 PM Joe Hass  wrote:

 A pox on the lot of them.

 https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/hbo-max-peacock-roku-amazon-streaming-1234703977/

 Sidebar: I have given up on Apple and will not be giving them another 
 penny after a crazy situation involving poorly-integrated two-factor 
 authentication. I'll shift everything over to Windows, Plex, Google Drive, 
 and Android TV.

 If you'd have told me ten years ago that I would completely abandon Apple, 
 the company that made me into what I am today professionally, I'd have 
 thought you were nuts. But here we are.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: HBO Max removes "Gone With The Wind"

[Ben Combee]

That was the premise of "The Wind Done Gone", the book from 2001 that
set legal precedent for fair use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wind_Done_Gone

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:05 AM PGage  wrote:
>
> Well, there is no way to make a non racist version of GWTW, as you say the 
> film and book are nostalgic racist poems. But it would be an interesting 
> project, maybe an HBO mini-series, to tell Scarlet’s story from the 
> perspective of her slaves. It would put in more clear and tragic, 
> heartbreaking focus the true meaning of her last line...
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:36 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't want to see a "censored" version of GWTW, either, but I don't 
>> know if it'd be possible to do that. It's not a matter of a particular line 
>> or scene; it's the whole mindset of the picture. You'd have to rethink if 
>> from the ground up and remake the entire picture.
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 7:20:20 PM UTC-7, PGage wrote:
>>>
>>> Try them with a little Sriracha...
>>>
>>> I think I said AMC originally, but I meant TCM, and I think they were 
>>> explicit (at least in some discussion ps) that this is what they wanted to 
>>> do. I did expect some kind of round table discussion after, but perhaps 
>>> what they will do is produce a kind of documentary about the film and put 
>>> that up separately later.
>>>
>>> While I approve of what HBO has done here, there are still legitimate 
>>> concerns related to your original objections. I do not approve of going 
>>> through every film and television show and removing the now offensive bits. 
>>> I would raise holy hell if they put out a censored version of GWTW, and I 
>>> do not approve of all of the (mostly self) censorship we are seeing now. 
>>> OTOH, I reserve the right to approve of pulling some things that may just 
>>> be too much.
>>>
>>> I will post a related example in its own thread.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:29 PM Joe Hass  wrote:

 My words are awfully tasty tonight.

 https://www.vulture.com/2020/06/gone-with-the-wind-returns-to-hbo-max-with-intro-on-racism.html

 There's a defensive part of me that wants to say "If you would've just 
 said you wanted TCM's Jacqueline Stewart to do something with this, I'd 
 have at least given you a little credit you're going down the right path.".

 I have mentioned before in this forum about how for a person who doesn't 
 like movies, I love TCM on several levels. I wonder if WarnerMedia doesn't 
 appreciate what a gem it has in that channel and its followers.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Walmart streamer unveils first original flick

[Ben Combee]

Vudu has mostly been notable to me for it's Disc2Digital service where
you could get streaming versions of a lot of your physical media for
relatively little money.
https://www.vudu.com/content/disc_to_digital.html

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:49 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 5:15 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Vudu will release Adventure Force 5, a takeoff of the retailer's toy brand, 
>> this December; it's about sci-fi-fanboy brothers dealing with invading 
>> creatures in a beachside town.  Jamie-Lynn Sigler ("The Sopranos") and Ernie 
>> Hudson are also in the cast... 
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jamie-lynn-sigler-ernie-hudson-join-vudu-movie-adventure-force-5-1244562
>>  (link)
>
>
> Vudu is one of the streaming apps on my smart TV. I had no idea they were 
> owned by Walmart. And I guess I'm no closer to firing it up to see what 
> content they have, either.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quick review: The Break with Michelle Wolf

[Ben Combee]

I found the writing on McHale's show to be pretty cheap but sometimes
satisfyingly out there.  It was basically The Soup 1.5  I liked it,
but it took me a while to find time to watch the second half.  In a
way, it reminded me of "With Bob and David" which also tried to bring
back an old show by doing more of the same, but ended up not being
very memorable.  It certainly didn't look like it cost much to make.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:06 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
 wrote:
> The official word seems that Chelsea opted not to do a third season.  I find
> it plausible that given her big deal with Netflix (specials, documentary
> show and talk show), she may have been given the option to end the show
> rather than be cancelled.
>
> https://deadline.com/2017/10/chelsea-handler-netflix-talk-show-end-canceled-documentary-1202190911/
>
> Unlike the other programs, Chelsea ran three episodes a week during its
> first season, typically taped the day before dropping.  The next season was
> a weekly affair.  120 episodes in all.
>
> David
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 3:38:48 PM EDT, Adam Bowie
>  wrote:
>
> Didn't the same fate befall Chelsea Handler's Netflix show incidentally?
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Comedy Central hangs out shingle for 11:30... again

[Ben Combee]

ah, and it looks like "Night after Night with Allan Havey" was on
several nights a week; that was a show CC inherited from the merger of
Ha! and The Comedy Channel.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Ben Combee  wrote:
> Never forget "Short Attention Span Theater"!  That was a nightly strip
> show, although usually earlier in the day.
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:12 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
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>> I've been trying to figure out if any 11:30 programs that preceded The
>> Colbert Report lasted for any length of time.
>>
>> As best as I can tell, however, there may not have been many 'daily'
>> programs at that time prior to Colbert.  I think Win Ben Stein's Money aired
>> earlier in the evening.  Regardless, it ran for five and a half years.
>> Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn ran for almost 2 years.
>>
>> Other popular CC shows before Colbert were typically weekly.  Exceptions
>> would be The Daily Show, and the show it replaced (because it moved to ABC),
>> Politically Incorrect.  That show ran on CC for only 3 years before heading
>> to broadcast.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Klepper will be kept on for a weekly show, to air next year.
>> http://www.tvguide.com/news/ the-opposition-jordan-klepper- canceled/
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Comedy Central hangs out shingle for 11:30... again

[Ben Combee]

Never forget "Short Attention Span Theater"!  That was a nightly strip
show, although usually earlier in the day.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:12 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
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> I've been trying to figure out if any 11:30 programs that preceded The
> Colbert Report lasted for any length of time.
>
> As best as I can tell, however, there may not have been many 'daily'
> programs at that time prior to Colbert.  I think Win Ben Stein's Money aired
> earlier in the evening.  Regardless, it ran for five and a half years.
> Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn ran for almost 2 years.
>
> Other popular CC shows before Colbert were typically weekly.  Exceptions
> would be The Daily Show, and the show it replaced (because it moved to ABC),
> Politically Incorrect.  That show ran on CC for only 3 years before heading
> to broadcast.
>
> David
>
> Klepper will be kept on for a weekly show, to air next year.
> http://www.tvguide.com/news/ the-opposition-jordan-klepper- canceled/
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Joel McHale gets Netflix talker

[Ben Combee]

The quality is fairly consistent with The Soup, although episode 2
didn't have me laughing as much as episode 1.  In some ways, I think
the lack of commercial breaks hurts the flow of the show.  They can
use pre-taped bits for that, but episode 2 only had one pre-taped bit.
They also seemed willing to do cuts to side views of Joel in front of
the green-screen liberally in this one, something I don't think I saw
in the first.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:37 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> He managed 10 years of this before, so I'm pretty sure that they can keep
> this up. At least until TV stations stop making crappy reality shows.
>
> I'm still disappointed that I never got to see Taxi Brooklyn...
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 5:21 PM, David Risner  wrote:
>>
>> I've found the first two episodes entertaining. We'll have to see if he
>> can keep it up or if he's used the best material already. I'm very concerned
>> that it's the latter.
>>
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>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:23 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam Bowie, to moi, today (2/18):

 This is basically... well exactly... The Soup, but with swearing. But
 then I kinda liked The Soup.


>>> He tries to point out the differences (the screen is "forest green,"
>>> f'rinstance) to Liz Wagmeister of Variety (link) (who will likely also snark
>>> about it soon on "Page Six TV")
>>>
>>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Magnum PI reboot

[Ben Combee]

Bob Newhart's not dead.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Doug Fields  wrote:
> So, what’s left for CBS to resurrect from the mid-80s lineup?  I wonder how
> long it’ll be before we see a reboot of a wacky group of irreverent doctors
> and nurses working to save lives in a Mobile Army Surgical Hospital in
> Afghanistan?  Bring back “Simon & Simon” with Gerald McRaney shepherding his
> two sons as the new team of private eyes who crack their cases in wildly
> disparate styles?
>
>
>
> Too bad Bob Newhart and Carol O’Connor are no longer with us.  Can you
> imagine an updated Archie Bunker, ranting and raving at immigrants and
> liberals while defending Donald Trump making America great again?
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> Doug Fields
>
> Tampa, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:07 PM
> To: TVorNotTV 
> Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Magnum PI reboot
>
>
>
>
> Tom Wolper, to moi, 10/25/17:
>
>
> Kevin M, Friday (20):
>
> They decided Higgins needs to be female.
>
>
>
> So they can cast some good-lookin' guy as a Brit working for the Russians...
> they'll call him "Robin Masters," and he'll show up during February.
>
>
>
> I was trying to think of why this seemed a bad idea to me and I found this
> Guardian article to put it into words. Magnum is a pretty dumb show but Tom
> Selleck made it fun and watchable. There's no reason to think CBS will cast
> a lead that will bring what he brought so all that leaves is a pretty dumb
> show.
>
>
>
> [Guardian link]
>
>
> See if this guy fills the bill: From Suicide Squad, Jay Hernandez (Variety
> link).
>
> B
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[TV orNotTV] Louis CK allegations in New York Times

[Ben Combee]

The silence is broken on Louis CK's alleged sexual harassment
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Non-surprise of the day: Andy Dick fired for sexual harassment

[Ben Combee]

I was in the audience at SXSW for the screening of his film "Danny
Roane: First Time Director" back in 2006. It was one of the weirdest
Q that I'd ever seen, with Dick on his worst behavior with the
audience.

To quote the Houston Chronicle story about it:

The film festival, in its 13th year, devolved into a comedy show
Saturday night when comedian Andy Dick turned a question-and-answer
session into a raucous, profane stand-up act.

Stand up? No, it was more like "run around." Or maybe "thrown down."

It was all in keeping with the tone and comedy level of the movie he'd
come to promote, his directorial debut: Danny Roane: First-Time
Director. Andy Dick also wrote the story, in which he portrays an
alcoholic ex-sitcom star who tries to make a comeback with a harrowing
autobiographical drama that somehow morphs into a musical.

At one point in the Q, announcing that he was going to have sex with
his Danny Roane co-star, Mo Collins, she simulated a sex act with him.
Later, they got into a wrestling match that ended with them on the
floor simulating nonconsensual sex. The impromptu performance included
comments from Andy Dick about bodily secretions, sex organs and
audience members in wheelchairs.

The huge cast of Danny Roane includes Ben Stiller, Jack Black, James
Van Der Beek, Anthony Rapp, Bob Odenkirk and Maura Tierney.

The questions after most screenings have to do with the intricacies of
filmmaking or behind-the-scenes aspects. After Danny Roane, typical
questions included "Andy, will you make out with me?"


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> I'm still not sure why anybody hires him. Of all the defenses/non-apologies
> made by the various people in recent weeks, this is the first to include the
> phrase, "I won't lick anyone's face anymore."
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/andy-dick-fired-movie-sexual-harassment-claims-1053162
>
> For a small list of some of Andy's previous offenses, here is the Vice
> article referenced in the Hollywood Reporter piece
>
> https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/bn3jq4/you-dont-know-andy-dick
>
> P.S.- He is also responsible for Phil Hartman's death
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Shout! Factory launches Twitch channel...

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They've had a 24-hour MST3k and a 24-hour Shout! Factory channel on
the free Pluto TV service for several months too.  Pluto also has a
continuous RiffTrax stream for viewing.

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 12:55 PM,   wrote:
>
>  Bob Jersey  wrote:
>>
>> ...with a whole lotta MST3K... from Monday (26) to next Monday (7/3),
>> 38 trips on the Satellite of Love from the classic era on the
>> (Amazon-owned, right?) gamer-oriented social platform... pee-arr
>> 
>> (link)
>
> I want to say they launched on Twitch a month or so ago with their all-day 
> Super Sentai: Dairanger marathon. I could be wrong, tho.
>
> ~D
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Chuck Barris

[Ben Combee]

I said Dave Berry...

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> And the running joke on social media is Chuck Norris better watch his ass
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:14 PM Bob Jersey  wrote:
>>
>>
>> That his passing came close to that of Chuck Berry is bound to be
>> confusing more than a few...
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Esquire Network transitioning to digital-only

[Ben Combee]

Yes -- there are a growing number of "linear" streaming services, like
Pluto TV, which show everyone the same content as a pushed stream,
instead of having viewers pull specific programs.  It looks like NBCU
is continuing some of that channel's content but isn't not going to
dedicate staff to have to sell the fixed amount of advertising needed
to program a live stream of it's programs.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
>
>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>> This is the first time I have seen it as well. I think of linear as a 
>> progression on a graph but that doesn't give the term "linear cable" any 
>> meaning. It might be an updated term for what was once basic cable as a 
>> channel which is not on every carrier's list cannot be considered basic. So 
>> it might mean not basic, like CNN or TBS, and not premium as it does not 
>> require a separate subscription.
>
> From context, it appears they mean "linear" as the opposite of "on-demand," 
> i.e., a programming service that broadcasts as a traditional channel where 
> one program follows another on a schedule, versus a programming service that 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Satellite of Love lands at Netflix

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Other sources said Joel McHale, (of Community and The Soup fame),
which makes a lot more sense.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
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> I've heard of Dan Harmon and, of course, Joel Hodgson, but who's Joel
> Harmon? Dan's little brother, maybe?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] HBO changes mind, scraps 'Vinyl'

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I think HBO is starting to get a lot more churn, now that so many
subscribers just watch for one series, "Game of Thrones", and it's
easier to just add the service for a few months using HBO Now.  That
means they need to keep really popular fare spaced out over the year
to keep people from dropping, and if they didn't think "Vinyl" would
be a potential seasonal tentpole, it's outta there to make room for
trying something else.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
>>
>>
>> After having renewed it over the winter... it wasn't clear what direction
>> new showrunner Scott Burns was going to take the Scorsese/Jagger-produced
>> drama, having yet to come up with scripts for the sophomore season...
>> Variety (link)
>
>
> This surprises me a bit. I thought that cable had an advantage over
> broadcast in that they could keep struggling series on the air. And
> subscription channels like HBO more so as they are not reliant on
> advertisers. Canceling after renewal also hurts HBO on the content-making
> side as staff and crew kept their schedules clear for shooting the new
> season and now have to look for work.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] John oliver

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I really enjoy his show, but I find his mock outrage bit to be
overdone.  It's funny once an episode, but it bugs me when it's his go
to bit for a not-so-funny topic.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:44 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
 As you say, it is unfair to compare it to a daily show; even so, Last Week
 Tonight is the best show on television.

 As Oliver might put it: that's not a subjective opinion, that's a fact;
 that's an objective fact

 On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote:

 I think I like his show more than Jon Stewart.  I think since he has a
 week to prepare for one topic alone,  the depth and strength of his position
 is just so much better than Stewart's typical work.

 And I'm tempted to send him some money to his church,  knowing it goes to
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sesame Street cut in half

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As someone consuming a lot of PBS Kids programming right now (mostly
by DVR with the little one), I will note that while most of the
programming is animated, they're doing a fair amount of live-action
interstitial, and they do have some newer series like Odd Squad that
are mostly live-action with (bad) special effects added.

There's some TERRIBLE computer animation (I'm looking at you, Sid the
Science Kid), but a lot of it is passible.  Curious George has been
high quality, and Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood has great content
combined with creative (but stuff) CG.

I wonder what the cost difference is?  Set construction? Group
performance time instead of flexibly scheduled voice recording?
Union-set rates and residuals?

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's a bunch of tweets collected by Current on the news:

 http://current.org/2015/08/c-is-for-capitalism-reactions-to-the-sesame-street-hbo-deal/

 Several tweets mention the irony of the fact that a series that was created
 to teach the poor basic letters and numbers skills is now only available to
 the rich (which is not necessarily true, but hey).

 The comment in the top post from the PBS station manager in Seattle makes a
 more important point--that the bulk of PBS Kids programming over the last
 decade has become animated instead of live-action, which is a big change
 from the PBS lineup many of us knew and loved.  I realize that at least most
 big city PBS stations are now wall-to-wall kids from early morning to
 BBC/NBR/NewsHour time and that animated programming is cheaper than live
 action, but the PBS difference outside of the emphasis on education WAS
 Mister Rogers, The Sesame Street humans, The Electric Company cast and
 the ZOOM kids.  That's gone now (not to mention the fact that credits are
 now squeezed back for promos--and I realize that the target audience can't
 read 'em anyway).

 Mark Jeffries
 Saints Spotlight Editor
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 I was relieved to read your last paragraph. The story sounds like the kind
 of thing we are supposed to respond to with something like outrage that they
 are screwing with an iconic cultural tradition. But based on my SS
 experience, extensive but now about 12 years removed from my last real
 exposure, it sounds to me like this story could be headlined: PBS Fixes
 Sesame Street.


 On Thursday, August 13, 2015, jdi...@juno.com wrote:

 Last fall, PBS quietly unveiled a half-hour edition of Sesame Street
 that aired hand-in-hand with the original 60-minute version.  The 30-minute
 edition was essentially a condensed version of the original, with most of
 the show's second half (primarily all Elmo, all the time) removed.

 Now, the 60-minute version will be gone altogether come mid-November, as
 PBS and Sesame Workshop have opted to go just with the 30-minute version,
 citing the usual changing viewer habits and positive affiliate reaction
 reasons ...


 http://current.org/2015/08/pbs-will-drop-hourlong-sesame-street-from-fall-schedule/

 I'm the father of a soon-to-be pre-kindergartner, and she lost interest
 in Sesame Street over the course of the last year.  But when she did
 watch, I noticed she did not have any interest in watching the full hour.
 Her preference was watching segments that interested her -- she was more
 enthralled in watching, say, a two-minute lesson on letters and numbers than
 a 20-minute Elmo fest.  When Elmo or another character/segment she didn't
 care for popped up, we'd leave the room to color, read, or some other
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Killjoys

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I liked the pilot, although I think the question it answers is what
if USA Network made Firefly?

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 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/bangarang/id995345000?i=998621103

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Comcast/TWC could bite the dust

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The Austin TWC cable-apocalypse is in full swing.  There's only a
handful of analog stations left, all broadcasting a static you need a
box message.  All the digital channels are now encrypted.  This is
causing some big problems here in our Roku TV development office --
we're having to set up our own internal mini-cable network just to be
able to test the ClearQAM features on our TVs.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:37 PM, stannc sta...@gmail.com wrote:
 TWC's message to public on this is officially Meh, although I'm sure their 
 CEO isn't happy about losing his $80million buyout bonus.

 It's also not stopping TWC from eliminating analog service across its 
 footprint. Starting this summer in North Carolina, every jack is going to 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Last Man on Earth renewed

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I love that the main character's name on that show, Phil Miller, is
the first and last name of the two executive producers, Phil Lord and
Chris Miller.

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...for which we should all be immensely grateful.  (Seriously - did MacGruber 
really do well enough to warrant a sequel?)


 Phil Miller saw a copy of “MacGruber 2” in an abandoned store. His response?

 Not even me.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: David Duchovny is releasing a record album

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Don't forget Don Johnson!

Heartbeat music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1sNImbI2Zw

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 He follows the long line of TV cops who sing, which includes Andy Griffith,
 Jack Webb, David Hasselhoff, and of course Mr William Shatner.

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 Proven wrong again, by a USA Today (link) writer, saying in part, He's
 backed by a group of musicians who perform separately under the name Weather
 and give his songs a '90s-rock feel in the vein of The Wallflowers and the
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Re: [TV orNotTV] IOC creates its own TV channel

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See http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule -- looks like mostly
shows where people talk about football and replays of the best part of
recent and historical games, plus some football-related documentaries.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:
 I'm also interested in this, although it has the opportunity to become the
 most tedious sports channel anywhere.

 I blogged about it here:
 http://www.adambowie.com/blog/2014/12/do-we-need-an-olympic-tv-channel/

 Mind you, I don't know what the NFL Network looks like for 99.9% of the time
 they're not simulcasting Thursday Night Football.

 Adam


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 Amidst other reforms, featuring archival and Olympic events.


 http://bigstory.ap.org/article/cfe3c9672f4f48b9a7741569c3d362c0/ioc-approves-new-olympic-bidding-process

 I'm intrigued by this because the USOC contemplated a similar channel with
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Battlestar Galactica' Creator Glen A. Larson Dead at 77 | Rolling Stone

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In honor of his death, go solder up one of these:
http://shop.evilmadscientist.com/productsmenu/tinykitlist/152-scanner

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC mulling LIVE sitcom

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E!'s The Soup has done a live format all summer, and I say it's been
pretty mixed.  I like some of the weird energy, but many of their bits
have gone south and not recovered.  I assume they've been doing it
because it's cheaper, since they don't have to pay editors, just a
director.

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 But this is the way TV used to be done on a regular basis - at least in
 Britain. Early episodes of The Avengers for example were made live.  Actors
 had to learn their lines and rehearse properly.

 It's technically restricting though - using commercial breaks to get actors
 from set to set. On the other hand teleprompters and hidden earpieces can
 help overcome any blanking that actors suffer.

 I still think like any project the idea should come first and the technical
 means of making it should follow.

 On 7 Sep 2014 05:23, Ben Scripps b...@benscripps.com wrote:


  On Sep 6, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Tom Wolper twol...@gmail.com wrote:
  I don't see it succeeding. I understand why a network would find the
  idea attractive, people are more likely to watch TV done live in real time.
  And doing it live sets it apart from other sitcoms. But outside of SNL 
  shows
  have done live episodes only as a sweeps gimmick. Doing it week after week
  is another story.

 FWIW, Fox tried it in 1992-93; after a sweeps gimmick live episode was
 well-received, the entire second season of “Roc” was done live to the east
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Re: [TV orNotTV] TiVo to be available to antenna viewers

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The 4-tuner Tivo Roamio already supported OTA, it's just the 6-tuner
Tivo Roamio Pro that dropped OTA.  The hard drive size for the Romio
OTA seems to be the same as the Roamio at 500GB.  Going OTA only means
they don't have to populate a CableCard slot or include QAM support in
the tuners.  If lifetime service is priced the same as other Tivo
devices, then the full cost with no ongoing subscription would be $548
($49 + $499 lifetime).

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 To be clear, TiVo was available to antenna viewers for a very long time,
 then was dropped for the latest release. I have the TiVo box just before it
 that still offered OTA support.

 I'm curious how much storage the device will hold, especially at $50 price
 point.


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 The Roamio OTA drops the STB cost down to around that of Roku, with the
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 Bloomberg (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Mork (or Buffy) Beats Alex P. Keaton

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Haven't seen The Crazy Ones, but I definitely agree about Brooklyn Nine
Nine.  I think there's a lot of potential there; it kinda makes me thing
Cop Scrubs.  But having Andy Samburg toned down a bit would be a big
improvement -- he's doing three-camera moves on a one-camera show.


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 I felt the same way about Williams as I did about Samberg as a cop: less
 shtick is more.


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 The premiere of CBS' new Robin Williams/Sarah Michelle Gellar sitcom The
 Crazy Ones basically rode on the Big Bang/2.5 Men coattails and
 decisively trounced NBC's The Michael J. Fox Show Thursday night:


 http://www.thewrap.com/early-ratings-robin-williams-easily-tops-michael-j-fox/

 The pilot wasn't bad--it wasn't great, but surprisingly, Williams and
 Gellar had some chemistry and it could work.  I know, it's a David Kelley
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Golf on Fox follow-up

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On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote:


 If HD sets didn't have to use precious metals in their production, they
 would be far more affordable, but I'd bet that cable/satellite would still
 have to do something on their end (as ours did locally) for even the
 best-priced set to have the whole picture.  -- B.

 HD sets are very affordable... I've recently priced a reasonable 32 LCD
TV around $300... if you went back to 1988 and tried to buy a 32 CRT,
you'd be paying around $2500 in 2013 dollars (and it would take three
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Re: [TV orNotTV] upfronts vs. reality

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http://www.eonline.com/news/35078/scott-baio-s-rewind-ejected

Living Single replaced it on then-fourth-place Fox.


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:59 AM, chia...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I seem to recall an Fox sitcom Rewind about Scott Baio going back to the
 70s in his head, but while it was due to premiere fall of 1997, it never
 did.

 Can't recall what, if anything, replaced it, though.

 ~D

  Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there any chance that any of the schedules being announced this week
  will remain intact in the fall? Can anyone cite any previous upfront
 lineup
  that was unchanged by September/October?
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Men renewed, but A. Jones' role still reduced

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At first, I thought you were talking about Mad Men and January Jones,
which made me quite confused. 2.5 Men makes much more sense.


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 EW:
 http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/26/two-and-a-half-men-angus-t-jones-as-regular/Warner
 Bros. is talking to the actor about a possible *recurring* role on the
 show instead of coming back as a series regular.  Cue the usual quips about
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Re: [TV orNotTV] What, NBC Worry?

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I've been noticing the Watch it live line in the promos... I wasn't sure
if it was to encourage immediate watching or to tell people that if they
watch live, that's the time to watch.


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 Have just noticed two new things in NBC's promos:

 1.  The voiceover is putting the network in front of the titles, just like
 ABC's V/Os:  NBC's 'The Voice,' NBC's 'Revolution,' NBC's 'The Tonight
 Show With Jay Leno,' etc.  Of course, the only time it's an actual title
 is NBC's Saturday Night Live, although I believe officially the network
 name was taken out of the title years ago.

 2.  Every promo ends with Watch it live tonight... (or whatever).  And
 of course, none of these shows are actually live shows (The Voice is a
 few weeks away from the live telecasts).  On the other hand, Fox's promos
 for The Following actually include in their voice-overs set your DVRs.
  Interesting.

 Are we not that far away from CBS' 'NCIS' and Fox's 'Family Guy?'

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi OT: Disney shuts down LucasArts

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Kevin, remember that LucasArts was just the videogame side, not the movie
or TV production side.  As Joe mentioned, it hadn't been doing much that
was well received on its own for years.


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 LucasArts hasn't really been creating much of anything lately. They've
 long moved away from creating their own IP and instead coming up with
 numerous Star Wars games that they have farmed out to a second party
 in most cases like Bioware who did Knights of the Old Republic and
 The Old Republic MMO.

 Companies like Double Fine and Telltale are more old school LucasArts
 today than LucasArts is now.

 In short, no big loss.

 On 4/3/13, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
  This is the part of corporate acquisitions I don't understand.
  Billions were given in exchange for Lucas properties and the creative
  talent contained therein. But now that Disney has them, they are being
  shown the door.
 
  http://kotaku.com/disney-shuts-down-lucasarts-468473749?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The Ben Show

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I remember Ben Hoffman from his bits on Infomania, the one show I'd watch
on Current TV.  I tended to find his segments occasionally funny, but not
my favorite part of the show.  Still, glad to see an alum of that project
getting airtime.


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 I laughed once or twice during the pilot, which means it is funnier
 than the last 15 seasons of SNL.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Al Jazeera Is Said to Be Acquiring Current TV

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I've not been much of a fan of Current since the killed off Infomania a few
years ago. That was the one show I found worth DVRing there.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

 A friend of my GF works - sorry, worked - as a producer for Spitzer's 8pm
 show - she apparently found out about Spitzer walking away and the
 elimination of her job from an article in the NY Times.  She still hasn't
 heard anything official from the network.

 Stay classy, Current.


 On Monday, January 7, 2013 11:10:02 AM UTC-5, Bob in Jersey wrote:

 Howie Kurtz weighs in, and talks with onetime WCBS, ABC, and Al-Jazeera
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 CNNhttp://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/07/opinion/kurtz-gore-al-jazeera/index.html

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Re: [TV orNotTV] if anybody knows Bill Lawrence ...

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Doesn't seem insane.  He's had three successful series developed (Spin
City, Scrubs, Cougar Town), so he knows the network business.  Sure, they
all had rough spots, but getting past pilot to full seasons is an
accomplishment out there.


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:

 ... perhaps you could explain to him the classic definition of
 insanity, in which you do the same thing but expect a different
 outcome.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: SemiNoTV: msnbc.com Now nbcnews.com, But...

[Ben Combee]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Of course they could do more than merely a new name. They could
 rebrand themselves and dedicate the newly named channel as THE
 destination for hard news on television. They could announce they were
 opening news bureaus in Baghdad, Syria, Moscow, Berlin, Mexico City,
 and that they were hiring in-house teams of experts in medicine,
 physics, meteorology, education, the environment, the law, and the
 economy. They could commit to being entirely free of advertising for
 the six months prior to and following national elections. And they
 could promise never to utter the names Kardashian, Sheen, or Palin.

NBBC?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Same character, different versions of same show?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Television_series_reboots has a
pretty good list of shows that had a reboot, rather than a new
incarnation in the same storyline.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Whitney Houston

[Ben Combee]

I saw the news about this while watching SNL on a short TiVo delay.  I
was very glad that this didn't happen the next week when Maya Rudolph
is hosting, since it's very likely that she would do her impression of
Whitney during Weekend Update or some other time in the show.  That
doesn't seem to likely now.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Whitney Houston

[Ben Combee]

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv wrote:
 On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:14 PM, PGage wrote:

 I have been looking for that clip too - does not seem to be on the internet. 
 Youtube has video of Whitney singing that song in rehearsal, but it is not 
 very good. Hulu does not seem to have it, and Netflix of course does not 
 have the music (Season 16, episode 14 - second hosting gig by Alex Baldwin).

 As far as I can tell, if it's not included in the Netflix version of the 
 episode, it won't be on Hulu, either (whether as a clip or as part of the 
 Hulu Plus full episode).

Yeah, I think SNL either doesn't have the rights to repeat a lot of
those musical segments or it costs them extra due to music clearance
issues.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Daily Show Interviews

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On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:21 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am wondering if anyone knows
 when this practice began - or is it possible something to do with the fact
 that I am watching the morning rerun (maybe they started this a while ago
 and I didn't notice because I was watching the primetime version in the
 summer?). I think I also notice that sometimes the entire show begins a
 minute or two after it started - with Comedy Central going right from the
 lead-in commercial to Jon already talking, without the usual opening and
 audience applause.

I've been watching TDS in it's evening first run for the last year,
and don't recall either of these practices.  I think it must be a
morning thing to let them get in another advertisement or two.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] '2 Broke Girls' impressions? (SPOILERS)

[Ben Combee]

 Up All Night is the only comedy I've seen so far that I couldn't even
 finish the pilot of and won't be giving any more chances.

My wife and I both found the Up all Night pilot to be pretty well
done and we're keeping out season pass.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: New Girl

[Ben Combee]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I've been avoiding this one because the relentless commercials make it
 seem like Deschanel's character is so WACKY and QUIRKY that she might
 as well be on Parks and Rec or a David Kelley show about season
 five.

I moderately liked the pilot, but want to see how the show continues.
My biggest issue was that Zooey's character seems to be a younger,
cuter Liz Lemon... I need for that character to find its own voice.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Conan doc appears at SXSW

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On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:56 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, what I would have given to have a gold (interactive  film) badge this 
 year...

 Is it me, or is SXSW becoming a marginally cooler version of Comic-Con?

No... SXSW is many things... the film festival tends to have a few
major premieres, often with a genre twist, but they still do lots of
small indie films and documentaries that would be lost at ComicCon.
Then, there's Interactive which is best described as spring break for
web people and was just insanely large this year.  Then, there's the
Music festival which has about 2000 bands playing official showcases,
and even more at unofficial day parties all around the city.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hulu adds Criterion films

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Netflix will still have a relationship with Criterion, I expect... it
will just be of the physical disk only variety.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Corey Haim

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One of our favorite clips on The Show With No Name was this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLRK-XP_GLE

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking at his imdb page, the only he was in that I saw was Murphy's
 Romance. Nothing else on the list interested me when I was younger
 and it is all even less interesting now.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: SB XLIV

[Ben Combee]

At my Super Bowl party, I made a bunch of advertising cliche bingo
cards, and almost every term got checked off by someone.  The Snickers
ad let us get both old man and old lady... I was most surprised by
the CSI: Miami ad which let us get outer space.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:05 AM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote:
 90 minutes of Betty talking dirty at Craig Ferguson would be much, much
 funnier.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Anyone else get this in their paper?

[Ben Combee]

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:
 A caption to a picture in the entertainment column in section A of
 today's Express-Times identifies Peter Facinelli and co-creator/
 executive Linda Wallem as from the CBS series 'Nurse Jackie'...AP's
 f___up, or just the locals?

Well, CBS owns Showtime, so it's technically true.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Fwd: Semi-NotTV: Rockefeller Centre Tour

[Ben Combee]

 Curious -- has anyone been on the tour lately? Is it worth it?  I assume
 that instead of the Conan set they're now adding the Fallon set to the mix,
 but any recommendations on best time to go and/or what you get to see?

My sister and I went on the tour back in January.  We went on the
studio tour and got to see the sets of the Nightly News, SNL, and
Conan.  We went in the morning to stand outside for the 8AM hour of
the Today show where we were on air briefly during a bumper going into
the break.  We then caught the 10AM tour.  The morning is nice because
they're not taping so you get to see more of the sets; we even got to
stand where Brian Williams stands.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: SNL news I don't care about

[Ben Combee]

 Also, while I have never seen House or the British television shows he
 is so famous for, people keep telling me that Laurie is really funny.
 I can't wait to see it, and wonder why they choose not to display this
 on SNL when he hosts the show.

I was very disappointed with Laurie's material -- the show really
failed to play on his talents.  He's been on their twice, and they
still haven't done a good House MD parody.  While I love the show,
it's rife for being taken down a few notches; perhaps they could do a
sketch where House is put into another profession, like plumber, where
they could solve a toilet mystery in seven minutes, with the requisite
misdiagnosis that makes things worse and the sudden insight at the
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Chase: I'm still not talkin'

[Ben Combee]

 On amazon Sopranos is $257.99, West Wing is $209.99. I don't think I
 can justify getting both this Christmas, but I don't know if I can
 choose just one.

Right now, DeepDiscount.com has their 25% off sale going with code
SUPERSALE or DVDTALK (or about ten others).  That makes the Sopranos
$193 and the West Wing $157.  A little more tempting?

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