Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl Ratings

[Joe Hass]

To steal from Spinal Tap:

"We laid off our national security and Justice correspondents."

"What?"

"Yeah. I wouldn't worry about it though, DC's not a big news town."


On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 18:14 Diner  wrote:

> And the layoffs include 20 at CBS News, notably reporters Catherine
> Herridge (national security) and Jeff Pegues (justice).
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/02/cbs-news-layoffs-catherine-herridge-1235824772/
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 5:44:11 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> Apparently ratings success equals mass-layoffs at Paramount
>>
>>
>> https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/13/paramount-global-lays-off-about-800-employees-after-super-bowl.html
>>
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 7:10 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> For two years, the networks disavowed the ratings system. Then when
>>> people called on the streamers to open their data up to verify the numbers
>>> they were dependently releasing, suddenly the ratings system was fine
>>> again.
>>>
>>> To the best of my knowledge, no studio or streamer is allowing any
>>> independent verification of the numbers they are releasing. So we are
>>> taking Paramount’s word, even though they have every reason to lie and
>>> inflate their numbers.
>>>
>>> I believe it was a highly rated tv event. I just don’t accept the lack
>>> of data used to manufacture the specific numbers.
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 7:03 AM Adam Bowie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think you're being unfair Kevin. This is certainly the most accurate
 count of any large sporting event ever. Far more accurate than figures for
 things like the finale of MASH or the 1969 moon landings.

 Any global number I would, however, take with a pinch of salt.

 On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 2:51 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> The vagueness of people’s responses to my initial comment emphasizes
> my point.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 6:37 AM PGage  wrote:
>
>> Well, it has never been true that they count every single person
>> watching a program, but the observation was made in several sites last
>> night that they have probably never had a more accurate estimate of SB
>> viewers than they did this year. They now estimate viewers in public 
>> venues
>> and those who streamed and a separate count for those who only watched 
>> part
>> of it. Indeed, for comps purposes that is a drawback, as the claim this
>> year had the most viewers ever is undermined by the possibility they just
>> counted more of the viewers than ever. And of course, there are a lot 
>> more
>> people in the country and the world than 10 and 20 years ago, so it is 
>> also
>> probably true that more people than ever did not watch the Super Bowl.
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 at 7:34 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> What verifiable data is being supplied to or by Nielsen to support
>>> these numbers? I feel like the networks and streamers distrust ratings
>>> unless the numbers serve them. And I’ve not seen evidence that streaming
>>> services are sharing user data needed to accurately report ratings.
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:31 PM PGage  wrote:
>>>
 Puck News’ Matt Belloni predicted  123.1M - pretty close to
 reported 123.4.

 It was a fabulous game.




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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl Ratings

[Diner]

And the layoffs include 20 at CBS News, notably reporters Catherine 
Herridge (national security) and Jeff Pegues (justice).
https://deadline.com/2024/02/cbs-news-layoffs-catherine-herridge-1235824772/


On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 5:44:11 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:

> Apparently ratings success equals mass-layoffs at Paramount 
>
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/13/paramount-global-lays-off-about-800-employees-after-super-bowl.html
>
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 7:10 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> For two years, the networks disavowed the ratings system. Then when 
>> people called on the streamers to open their data up to verify the numbers 
>> they were dependently releasing, suddenly the ratings system was fine 
>> again. 
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, no studio or streamer is allowing any 
>> independent verification of the numbers they are releasing. So we are 
>> taking Paramount’s word, even though they have every reason to lie and 
>> inflate their numbers.
>>
>> I believe it was a highly rated tv event. I just don’t accept the lack of 
>> data used to manufacture the specific numbers. 
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 7:03 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>
>>> I think you're being unfair Kevin. This is certainly the most accurate 
>>> count of any large sporting event ever. Far more accurate than figures for 
>>> things like the finale of MASH or the 1969 moon landings.
>>>
>>> Any global number I would, however, take with a pinch of salt. 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 2:51 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>>
 The vagueness of people’s responses to my initial comment emphasizes my 
 point. 

 Kevin M. (RPCV)


 On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 6:37 AM PGage  wrote:

> Well, it has never been true that they count every single person 
> watching a program, but the observation was made in several sites last 
> night that they have probably never had a more accurate estimate of SB 
> viewers than they did this year. They now estimate viewers in public 
> venues 
> and those who streamed and a separate count for those who only watched 
> part 
> of it. Indeed, for comps purposes that is a drawback, as the claim this 
> year had the most viewers ever is undermined by the possibility they just 
> counted more of the viewers than ever. And of course, there are a lot 
> more 
> people in the country and the world than 10 and 20 years ago, so it is 
> also 
> probably true that more people than ever did not watch the Super Bowl.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 at 7:34 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> What verifiable data is being supplied to or by Nielsen to support 
>> these numbers? I feel like the networks and streamers distrust ratings 
>> unless the numbers serve them. And I’ve not seen evidence that streaming 
>> services are sharing user data needed to accurately report ratings.
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:31 PM PGage  wrote:
>>
>>> Puck News’ Matt Belloni predicted  123.1M - pretty close to reported 
>>> 123.4.
>>>
>>> It was a fabulous game.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl Ratings

[Adam Bowie]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 3:34 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> What verifiable data is being supplied to or by Nielsen to support these
> numbers? I feel like the networks and streamers distrust ratings unless the
> numbers serve them. And I’ve not seen evidence that streaming services are
> sharing user data needed to accurately report ratings.
>
>
>From reports it looks like the number is a combination of Nielsen Fast
National data combined with streaming numbers via Adobe Analytics. My
presumption is that CBS themselves crunched the numbers on that because no
matter how you were streaming CBS - whether via Paramount+, via YouTube TV
or some other way - you're still hitting CBS/Paramount servers so they have
that information.

Obviously some people may have, say, started on P+, had a bad experience
and switched to broadcast. But that'll all get averaged out in the data.

What's particularly important here is that they're providing a number who
watched the whole game. It goes up to over 200m for people who watched a
bit of the game. When streamers talk about numbers they can be anything
from 30 seconds upwards of watch-time counting as a view, whereas a
traditional TV number is an average of people who watched the whole show.
So yes, more people probably watched the end of a tight game than saw the
beginning, but it gets average out.

Personally, I made it until just after half-time (Usher isn't really my
thing), and then slept because by then it was 2.30am on a workday... Woke
up to the score but would happily have stayed up to watch it otherwise. Sky
Sports took CBS commentary supplemented with their own presenters in a
booth somewhere in the stadium. ITV used NFL Network branded pictures and
had their own British commentator alongside a US colleague, again
supplemented with presenters in a stadium booth - I assume right next door
to Sky's booth.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl Ratings

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 I watched on Nickelodeon, as I can't take football seriously.  I'm probably 
covered somewhere in the fine print.
I'm out of the SpongeBob demo, but I must admit that having SpongeBob and 
Patrick Star join CBS's fifth-string made for an entertaining watch.

Best,David

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 07:56:18 PM PST, Stan S  
wrote:  
 
 I got annoyed by the delay on Spectrum so I switched to plain old antenna. I 
remain unmeasurable. 
-Stan

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 10:34:47 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:

What verifiable data is being supplied to or by Nielsen to support these 
numbers? I feel like the networks and streamers distrust ratings unless the 
numbers serve them. And I’ve not seen evidence that streaming services are 
sharing user data needed to accurately report ratings.

Kevin M. (RPCV)

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:31 PM PGage  wrote:

Puck News’ Matt Belloni predicted  123.1M - pretty close to reported 123.4.
It was a fabulous game.



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl Ratings

[Jim Ellwanger]

I was at a friends’ apartment watching on good old-fashioned Spectrum cable. 
Some other people in the complex were loudly cheering for things about 45 
seconds after we’d seen them, so I assume they were watching on Paramount+ or 
some other streaming option.


> On Feb 12, 2024, at 7:56 PM, Stan S  wrote:
> 
> I got annoyed by the delay on Spectrum so I switched to plain old antenna. I 
> remain unmeasurable. 
> 
> -Stan
> 
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 10:34:47 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:
>> What verifiable data is being supplied to or by Nielsen to support these 
>> numbers? I feel like the networks and streamers distrust ratings unless the 
>> numbers serve them. And I’ve not seen evidence that streaming services are 
>> sharing user data needed to accurately report ratings.
>> 
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:31 PM PGage > wrote:
>>> Puck News’ Matt Belloni predicted  123.1M - pretty close to reported 123.4.
>>> 
>>> It was a fabulous game.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl Ratings

[Stan S]

I got annoyed by the delay on Spectrum so I switched to plain old antenna. 
I remain unmeasurable. 

-Stan

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 10:34:47 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:

> What verifiable data is being supplied to or by Nielsen to support these 
> numbers? I feel like the networks and streamers distrust ratings unless the 
> numbers serve them. And I’ve not seen evidence that streaming services are 
> sharing user data needed to accurately report ratings.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 7:31 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> Puck News’ Matt Belloni predicted  123.1M - pretty close to reported 
>> 123.4.
>>
>> It was a fabulous game.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

[PGage]

Last January 81% of US men identified as avid or casual NFL fans, vs 59% of
US women. I don’t know the corresponding breakdown for Taylor Swift fans,
but assuming it is at least as skewed the other way towards women, there is
some potential for Swift bringing in new fans to NFL games. But again, this
at best would be a marginal impact I would think.

Plus, as noted, the NFL already has a bunch of non fans sampling the Super
Bowl every year, for the half time show and the commercials*. Swift may
have some measurable improvement on that, but I doubt it’s a game changer.

*The NFL’s success at convincing such a large fraction of the population
that Super Bowl commercials are so much more entertaining than regular
commercials that they justify watching the game for non fans still ranks in
my book as the number one marketing achievement if the modern age.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/1098882/interest-level-football-gender/


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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 3:01 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> I saw in Matt Belloni's latest email that last week's divisional game got
> a record 50.4m viewers. So I assume that yesterday's will top that. Belloni
> predicts record breaking Super Bowl ratings - although I wonder if that is
> Swift fans, and not just the fact that, in the US, NFL is the monoculture
> now? Wouldn't most Swift fans have been watching the Super Bowl anyway?
>
> Broadcast isn't going away any time soon, with the existing contracts
> running through to 2033 or something. I'd suggest that the ability of
> the NFL to maintain audiences will be more down to its cultural importance
> going forward.
>
> [Side note: The UK, and many other European countries, have lists of
> sporting events that have to be carried on free-to-air TV. That ensures
> that games like the World Cup Final, Wimbledon tennis, the FA Cup Final and
> others are not exclusively on pay-TV. It helps maintain their cultural
> value even if the sports bodies that own those events can't necessarily
> maximise those rights' values. The big outlier here is the Premier League,
> which is not protected in this way for live games. So they're exclusively
> on pay-TV networks - Sky, TNT Sport, Amazon - with only highlights
> protected, currently Match of the Day on the BBC. Yet, the Premier League
> remains the popular sports competition in the country, just with nowhere
> near the pro-rata live audiences that the NFL gets.]
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 5:00 AM PGage  wrote:
>
>> I think we are still some years off from the Super Bowl being exclusively
>> on Peacock or some other streamer (this year you will have the option of
>> watching on P+).  And while it is difficult to make predictions about
>> absolute broadcast ratings these days, it is a lock that for as long as
>> linear television is a thing, the NFL will increasingly be what keeps it
>> alive, Swift or no Swift.
>>
>> But I guess Steve’s question really is whether Swift fans who did not
>> previously follow the NFL will start after sampling the Super Bowl due to
>> her influence. To a large extent that has been the rationale behind the pop
>> music halftime concerts of course. The NFL has been obscenely successful,
>> so maybe that does work to some extent, and maybe we will see some
>> SwiftEffect on the margins. I suspect any significant Swift Effect though
>> would result from a long term relationship between her and Kelce, with her
>> continuing to post pics on her social media of her watching and enjoying
>> football.
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
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>>
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 3:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> As we are at the twilight of broadcast television, it is difficult to
>>> predict how the SuperBowl will fare when viewers must stream it. Sports has
>>> maintained ratings compared to other produced series, but sponsors are
>>> starting to realize that doesn’t automatically lead to audiences buying
>>> advertised products (in fact, rarely does it lead to that).
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 3:37 PM Steve Timko 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will
 likely be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That
 gives her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super
 Bowl.

 My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
 watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
 think it will.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

[Doug Eastick]

In my house, the following has happened since the Tayvis partnering:
1) wife learned the rules of football.
2) watched a number of KC games with me.
3) Asked at the beginning of the DET-SF game "are there any players in this
game that are going out with a megastar?   If no, I'm going to watch
Netflix".

:)



On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 12:00 AM PGage  wrote:

> I think we are still some years off from the Super Bowl being exclusively
> on Peacock or some other streamer (this year you will have the option of
> watching on P+).  And while it is difficult to make predictions about
> absolute broadcast ratings these days, it is a lock that for as long as
> linear television is a thing, the NFL will increasingly be what keeps it
> alive, Swift or no Swift.
>
> But I guess Steve’s question really is whether Swift fans who did not
> previously follow the NFL will start after sampling the Super Bowl due to
> her influence. To a large extent that has been the rationale behind the pop
> music halftime concerts of course. The NFL has been obscenely successful,
> so maybe that does work to some extent, and maybe we will see some
> SwiftEffect on the margins. I suspect any significant Swift Effect though
> would result from a long term relationship between her and Kelce, with her
> continuing to post pics on her social media of her watching and enjoying
> football.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 3:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> As we are at the twilight of broadcast television, it is difficult to
>> predict how the SuperBowl will fare when viewers must stream it. Sports has
>> maintained ratings compared to other produced series, but sponsors are
>> starting to realize that doesn’t automatically lead to audiences buying
>> advertised products (in fact, rarely does it lead to that).
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 3:37 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will
>>> likely be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That
>>> gives her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super
>>> Bowl.
>>>
>>> My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
>>> watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
>>> think it will.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

[Adam Bowie]

I saw in Matt Belloni's latest email that last week's divisional game got a
record 50.4m viewers. So I assume that yesterday's will top that. Belloni
predicts record breaking Super Bowl ratings - although I wonder if that is
Swift fans, and not just the fact that, in the US, NFL is the monoculture
now? Wouldn't most Swift fans have been watching the Super Bowl anyway?

Broadcast isn't going away any time soon, with the existing contracts
running through to 2033 or something. I'd suggest that the ability of
the NFL to maintain audiences will be more down to its cultural importance
going forward.

[Side note: The UK, and many other European countries, have lists of
sporting events that have to be carried on free-to-air TV. That ensures
that games like the World Cup Final, Wimbledon tennis, the FA Cup Final and
others are not exclusively on pay-TV. It helps maintain their cultural
value even if the sports bodies that own those events can't necessarily
maximise those rights' values. The big outlier here is the Premier League,
which is not protected in this way for live games. So they're exclusively
on pay-TV networks - Sky, TNT Sport, Amazon - with only highlights
protected, currently Match of the Day on the BBC. Yet, the Premier League
remains the popular sports competition in the country, just with nowhere
near the pro-rata live audiences that the NFL gets.]


Adam

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 5:00 AM PGage  wrote:

> I think we are still some years off from the Super Bowl being exclusively
> on Peacock or some other streamer (this year you will have the option of
> watching on P+).  And while it is difficult to make predictions about
> absolute broadcast ratings these days, it is a lock that for as long as
> linear television is a thing, the NFL will increasingly be what keeps it
> alive, Swift or no Swift.
>
> But I guess Steve’s question really is whether Swift fans who did not
> previously follow the NFL will start after sampling the Super Bowl due to
> her influence. To a large extent that has been the rationale behind the pop
> music halftime concerts of course. The NFL has been obscenely successful,
> so maybe that does work to some extent, and maybe we will see some
> SwiftEffect on the margins. I suspect any significant Swift Effect though
> would result from a long term relationship between her and Kelce, with her
> continuing to post pics on her social media of her watching and enjoying
> football.
>
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>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 3:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> As we are at the twilight of broadcast television, it is difficult to
>> predict how the SuperBowl will fare when viewers must stream it. Sports has
>> maintained ratings compared to other produced series, but sponsors are
>> starting to realize that doesn’t automatically lead to audiences buying
>> advertised products (in fact, rarely does it lead to that).
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 3:37 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will
>>> likely be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That
>>> gives her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super
>>> Bowl.
>>>
>>> My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
>>> watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
>>> think it will.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

[PGage]

I think we are still some years off from the Super Bowl being exclusively
on Peacock or some other streamer (this year you will have the option of
watching on P+).  And while it is difficult to make predictions about
absolute broadcast ratings these days, it is a lock that for as long as
linear television is a thing, the NFL will increasingly be what keeps it
alive, Swift or no Swift.

But I guess Steve’s question really is whether Swift fans who did not
previously follow the NFL will start after sampling the Super Bowl due to
her influence. To a large extent that has been the rationale behind the pop
music halftime concerts of course. The NFL has been obscenely successful,
so maybe that does work to some extent, and maybe we will see some
SwiftEffect on the margins. I suspect any significant Swift Effect though
would result from a long term relationship between her and Kelce, with her
continuing to post pics on her social media of her watching and enjoying
football.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 3:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> As we are at the twilight of broadcast television, it is difficult to
> predict how the SuperBowl will fare when viewers must stream it. Sports has
> maintained ratings compared to other produced series, but sponsors are
> starting to realize that doesn’t automatically lead to audiences buying
> advertised products (in fact, rarely does it lead to that).
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 3:37 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will likely
>> be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That gives
>> her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.
>>
>> My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
>> watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
>> think it will.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

[Kevin M.]

As we are at the twilight of broadcast television, it is difficult to
predict how the SuperBowl will fare when viewers must stream it. Sports has
maintained ratings compared to other produced series, but sponsors are
starting to realize that doesn’t automatically lead to audiences buying
advertised products (in fact, rarely does it lead to that).

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 3:37 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will likely
> be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That gives
> her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.
>
> My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
> watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
> think it will.
>
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[TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

[Steve Timko]

So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will likely
be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That gives
her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.

My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
think it will.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings lowest since 2009

[M-D November]

I'd still take Al Michaels over Joe Buck any day of the week.

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 11:11:35 PM UTC-5, Greg Diener wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 12:03:27 AM UTC-5, PGage wrote:
>>
>> Collingworth, who I generally like, had a really, really bad game. I am 
>> not sure if he really is just in the tank for Brady 
>>
>
> As a New Yorker who has mostly grown up a Jets fan, I've listened to 
> Michaels and Collinsworth call many Patriots games, they might as well be 
> the Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson to Brady's Agent Orange.
>
> Greg 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings lowest since 2009

['Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV]

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 12:03:27 AM UTC-5, PGage wrote:
>
> Collingworth, who I generally like, had a really, really bad game. I am 
> not sure if he really is just in the tank for Brady 
>

As a New Yorker who has mostly grown up a Jets fan, I've listened to 
Michaels and Collinsworth call many Patriots games, they might as well be 
the Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson to Brady's Agent Orange.

Greg 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings lowest since 2009

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PGage, to Steve Timko, today (2/06):
>
> Collingworth, who I generally like, had a really, really bad game. I am 
> not sure if he really is just in the tank for Brady - my thought was that 
> he has been thrown by all the attention given Romo and was trying to be 
> more enthusiastic. But he was way off on a couple of things (though he did 
> a good job on that “Philly Special” play).
>
> I was stuck with him and Al, as to punch up the Eagles' radio online would 
have been hopelessly out of sync. I'm told Merrill Reese got all or most of 
those same calls right.

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings lowest since 2009

[PGage]

Collingworth, who I generally like, had a really, really bad game. I am not
sure if he really is just in the tank for Brady - my thought was that he
has been thrown by all the attention given Romo and was trying to be more
enthusiastic. But he was way off on a couple of things (though he did a
good job on that “Philly Special” play).

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:07 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

>
> TV by the Numbers is brutal on the NBC broadcast. He doesn’t like the
> announcers or the half time show. I appreciate that Timberlake didn’t lip
> synch. It was a great game. I think many who didn’t tune in didn’t care to
> see Brady win another ring.
>
> http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-feb-4-2018-super-bowl
> /
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings lowest since 2009

[Tom Wolper]

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:07 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:

>
> TV by the Numbers is brutal on the NBC broadcast. He doesn’t like the
> announcers or the half time show. I appreciate that Timberlake didn’t lip
> synch. It was a great game. I think many who didn’t tune in didn’t care to
> see Brady win another ring.
> http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-
> sunday-feb-4-2018-super-bowl/
>

Everything I saw about ratings today noted that the number of people who
watched via streaming was not in yet. Were those numbers added?

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[TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings lowest since 2009

[Steve Timko]

TV by the Numbers is brutal on the NBC broadcast. He doesn’t like the 
announcers or the half time show. I appreciate that Timberlake didn’t lip 
synch. It was a great game. I think many who didn’t tune in didn’t care to see 
Brady win another ring.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-feb-4-2018-super-bowl/


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