date:20100312

This is also preventing posting from web UI if user has location
option checked in settings.

∞ Andy Badera
∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Thomas Woolway tswool...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, we're (TweetDeck) having the same issues, and it looks like Tweetie is
 as well - looks like something may have broken last night when rolling out
 the new geo features?
 Tom

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Rich rhyl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm seeing this too, whenever I send a lat or long parameter I get a
 502 error and can't post any geo location tweets

 On Mar 12, 8:59 am, janole s...@mobileways.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I cannot send geotagged tweets via Gravity anymore. I'm always getting
  an HTTP 502 Bad Gateway error.
 
  Without attaching the lat/long vars, it's working.
 
  Strangely, I cannot send updates via the website either (twitter.com).
 
  @janole
 
  --
  Jan Ole Suhr / Gravity S60 Twitter Client
  o...@mobileways.de

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Sending geo-tagged tweets is broken? 502 Bad Gateway Error ...

Note some users also appear to have to clear cookies and sign back in,
in addition to unchecking the location option.

--ab



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 This is also preventing posting from web UI if user has location
 option checked in settings.

 ∞ Andy Badera
 ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
 ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
 ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Thomas Woolway tswool...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, we're (TweetDeck) having the same issues, and it looks like Tweetie is
 as well - looks like something may have broken last night when rolling out
 the new geo features?
 Tom

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Rich rhyl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm seeing this too, whenever I send a lat or long parameter I get a
 502 error and can't post any geo location tweets

 On Mar 12, 8:59 am, janole s...@mobileways.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I cannot send geotagged tweets via Gravity anymore. I'm always getting
  an HTTP 502 Bad Gateway error.
 
  Without attaching the lat/long vars, it's working.
 
  Strangely, I cannot send updates via the website either (twitter.com).
 
  @janole
 
  --
  Jan Ole Suhr / Gravity S60 Twitter Client
  o...@mobileways.de

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Sending geo-tagged tweets is broken? 502 Bad Gateway Error ...

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Woolway

This seems to be working ok again, at least API wise.

Tom

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:

 Note some users also appear to have to clear cookies and sign back in,
 in addition to unchecking the location option.

 --ab



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
  This is also preventing posting from web UI if user has location
  option checked in settings.
 
  ∞ Andy Badera
  ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
  ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
  ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera
 
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Thomas Woolway tswool...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Yes, we're (TweetDeck) having the same issues, and it looks like Tweetie
 is
  as well - looks like something may have broken last night when rolling
 out
  the new geo features?
  Tom
 
  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Rich rhyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm seeing this too, whenever I send a lat or long parameter I get a
  502 error and can't post any geo location tweets
 
  On Mar 12, 8:59 am, janole s...@mobileways.de wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I cannot send geotagged tweets via Gravity anymore. I'm always
 getting
   an HTTP 502 Bad Gateway error.
  
   Without attaching the lat/long vars, it's working.
  
   Strangely, I cannot send updates via the website either (twitter.com
 ).
  
   @janole
  
   --
   Jan Ole Suhr / Gravity S60 Twitter Client
   o...@mobileways.de

[twitter-dev] We're rolling back the Content-Type header correction on OAuth responses to text/html today - Deprecation Notice

Hello Developers,

Though it certainly would be more correct for us to properly set the
Content-Type HTTP header throughout the OAuth token acquisition
process to application/x-www-form-urlencoded, it has caused some
issues with a number of applications. This afternoon we will restore
the original behavior of setting the Content-Type header to text/
html.

Being in compliance with the OAuth specification is important to us.
Consider our old behavior now on deprecation notice. In four weeks or
so we'll begin setting the Content-Type header correctly again. We'll
announce a more formal deprecation date within a week of deployment.

We invite you to do the right thing with us.

Thanks!

Taylor
http://twitter.com/episod

[twitter-dev] Re: Introduce yourself!

2010-03-12 Thread Joe Bowman

Hi I'm Joe Bowman @joerussbowman and I'm actually a systems
administrator who does web application development as a hobby. I'm
currently working on a large project that will involve twitter,
facebook, and other social and search apis to create a tool for
enterprise customers. While making it and trying to discuss things via
Twitter, I threw together a side project to side project at http://www.choip.me
which allows you create a page of tweets with Disqus powered comments
on the page, making it easier to handle those large conversations. I'm
trying to wrap up choip.me so i can get back to my real project now,
funny how things work.

[twitter-dev] Re: Application based on Search API

2010-03-12 Thread Stephen Rife


On 3月10日, 午後10:22, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 Not sure about the REST/Search API, but on the Streaming side:

 http://twitter.com/pdfs/streaming_api_eula.pdf

 ... see Restrictions ...


Reading the Content License Agreement for the streaming API I am
confused by how the granting of a license to publicly display the
content from the streams (1i. Content License) works with the
obligation to use only for internal purposes.  What does internal
purposes mean here? Does the unless expressly authorized herein
part negate the restriction to not release the data publicly? Or this
just to prevent people from reselling the data?

 from  CLA  start --
1. Content License.
Twitter grants you a nonexclusive, revocable
license to use the Content to: (i) use, reproduce, distribute,
transmit, publicly display and publicly perform the Content thereof,
solely on and through your Service. 



5. Your Obligations.
(e) User Data.
You may only use the Content and Content Feed and any data resulting
or provided therefrom for internal purposes only and, unless expressly
authorized herein, you may not publicly release or disclose any data
or usage statistics or other information (in the aggregate or
otherwise) regarding the Content.  You agree to and will make
available to Twitter any data, usage statistics or
other information (in the aggregate) regarding the access and use of
the Content.

 from  CLA end --


- Steve Rife
DIgital Garage
http://twitter.com/melobubu

[twitter-dev] PHP class to interact with Twitter API on behalf of OAuth

2010-03-12 Thread Basil B Thoppil

Hi,
I have written a PHP class (OAuth_Twitter.php GPL 3 ) works with OAuth,
which authenticate with twitter API and provides methods to interact with
Twitter API to update and retrieve list and user data like updates,
followers, friends etc. If thecode base has OAuth, by including this single
file class, you can do all actions using the methods of this class. All
further development and contributions to this library would be appreciated.

Download this class from

PHPClasses.org http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/5941.html

Bloghttp://basilsjournal.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/easy-steps-to-your-twitter-app-in-php-oauth_twitter-php/

GitHUB http://github.com/basilbthoppil/oauth_twitter
-- 
thanks $ regards,

___ Basil B Thoppil
___ twitter handle twitter.com/BasilBThoppil
___ basilbthoppil[at]gmail[dot]com
___ +919538055505
Injoos Teamware - Online Group Collaboration for Knowledge Sharing and
Document Management www.injoos.com

Re: [twitter-dev] Getting IP of user from Tweets

2010-03-12 Thread PRAVEEN KUMAR

If user has provided permissions in that case which API method can provide
me this information.
Is it provided by new GEO functions created by Twitter. Can you please let
me know the use of these functions also to get thte IP.

Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM, TJ Luoma luo...@luomat.net wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, PRAVEEN KUMAR erpraveen2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I want to get IP address of user based on the last tweet sent by him.
  Message may be sent from machine or from mobile but in both the cases
  whatever IP he has used I need that in my application to find out
  user's current location.
 
  Please help me in getting this detail.Which API function can solve my
  problem ?

 None. That information isn't available via the API, nor should it be
 as it would be a major issue of privacy that I'm sure Twitter wouldn't
 want to open up without explicit permission from the users.

 TjL

[twitter-dev] Beginner pretty confused with rate limits...

2010-03-12 Thread eric.morand

Hi guys,

I'm a french beginner Twitter API developper, coming from a COCOA/Obj-
C background.

I'm planning on working on a web site which will integrate with
Twitter to retrieve the social graph of the logged user. But I don't
understand how I'm supposed to retrieve the social graph, my user
being limited to 150 requests per hour.

Let's say one of my user have 10 followers. Just to retrieve the
list of followers IDs, I would need 20 calls (followers/ids returns
5000 IDs).

Then, I want to retrieve user details and here come the pain : user/
lookup only returns 20 users ! For the 10 followers, that would
mean 5000 calls !!!

Of course, I could use status/followers but this method returns 100
users at a time and I would need to make 1000 calls to retrieve the
followers social graph..

And 10 followers/friends is not even that big. Some user have much
bigger social graphs...

So, I wonder how I am supposed to retrieve the social graph and how
are you, experienced Twitter developpers, dealing with this problem. I
have probably missed something obvious here.

Thanks by advance for your help,


Eric.

[twitter-dev] PHP class to interact with Twitter API on behalf of OAuth

2010-03-12 Thread basiL

Hi,
I have written a PHP class (OAuth_Twitter.php GPL 3 ) works with
OAuth, which authenticate with twitter API and provides methods to
interact with Twitter API to update and retrieve list and user data
like updates, followers, friends etc. If thecode base has OAuth, by
including this single file class, you can do all actions using the
methods of this class. All further development and contributions to
this library would be appreciated.

Download this class from

http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/5941.html

http://basilsjournal.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/easy-steps-to-your-twitter-app-in-php-oauth_twitter-php/

Also you can check out from  GIT HUB
http://github.com/basilbthoppil/oauth_twitter

[twitter-dev] Re: Impossible to make a reliable cursor on timelines using query args

2010-03-12 Thread eric.morand

Hi Zero,

I'm with you on this one. I was about to posy a thread about this
subject because I fail to understand how we are supposed to retrieve a
consistent timeline with the current API.

I'm also probably missing something here, being a beginner.

Any help appreciated,


Eric.

Re: [twitter-dev] Getting IP of user from Tweets

2010-03-12 Thread PRAVEEN KUMAR

Hi Zac,

can you please suggest how I can use these two new URLs. I mean what are the
parameters need to be passed.

Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Zac Bowling zbowl...@gmail.com wrote:

 The user's IP isn't available. Would be a huge security and privacy issue.

 However location is possible using the new geo features. It's opt in and it
 requires the user use client that supports sending location data, but the
 accuracy is far greater then any kind of geo-ip lookup could offer.

 Zac Bowling



 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:08 PM, PRAVEEN KUMAR erpraveen2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 I want to get IP address of user based on the last tweet sent by him.
 Message may be sent from machine or from mobile but in both the cases
 whatever IP he has used I need that in my application to find out
 user's current location.

 Please help me in getting this detail.Which API function can solve my
 problem ?

 Thanks.
 (Praveen Kumar)

[twitter-dev] Retweet parent

2010-03-12 Thread Otávio Augusto Soares

Is there a way of identify the root tweet by a retweet?

Re: [twitter-dev] Getting IP of user from Tweets

2010-03-12 Thread Raffi Krikorian


Nope.  There is no API to retrieve the IP address of a user.



On Mar 11, 2010, at 11:01 PM, PRAVEEN KUMAR erpraveen2...@gmail.com  
wrote:


If user has provided permissions in that case which API method can  
provide me this information.
Is it provided by new GEO functions created by Twitter. Can you  
please let me know the use of these functions also to get thte IP.


Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM, TJ Luoma luo...@luomat.net wrote:
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, PRAVEEN KUMAR erpraveen2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:


 I want to get IP address of user based on the last tweet sent by  
him.
 Message may be sent from machine or from mobile but in both the  
cases

 whatever IP he has used I need that in my application to find out
 user's current location.

 Please help me in getting this detail.Which API function can solve  
my

 problem ?

None. That information isn't available via the API, nor should it be
as it would be a major issue of privacy that I'm sure Twitter wouldn't
want to open up without explicit permission from the users.

TjL

[twitter-dev] Re: We're rolling back the Content-Type header correction on OAuth responses to text/html today - Deprecation Notice

I'll expand a bit on how you can prepare for this change.

The steps of the OAuth flow where you make a connection to Twitter's
OAuth endpoints to ask for request tokens or exchange a request tokens
for access tokens respond with query-parameter key/value pairs like
oauth_token and oauth_token_secret and sometimes other interesting
bits of miscellany. Responses (and requests!) that involve query
parameter key/value pairs have a Content-Type of application/x-www-
form-urlencoded.

Content-Types help HTTP clients interpret what's being sent to them.
If you hand me a rock but call it a poodle, I'm going to be pretty
confused. Right now, our Content-Type on OAuth responses is returning
a poodle, text/html -- but we're not sending you HTML. We're sending
you url-encoded query parameters.

If your client broke as a result of this change, look deeply at your
own code or any OAuth library or HTTP library that you use. Is there
anything conditional where you are explicitly looking for a text/html
response?

Some query parameter processing libraries automatically dereference
URL entities when processing. Maybe when you implementation was
receiving text/html responses it didn't de-reference the entities, and
so you wrote a routine to dereference them yourself. Now you're double
dereferencing or not dereferencing at all, and then you store your
request token or access token in a state that's different than you did
before and when you hand your tokens off to the Twitter API they are
malformed. That'd be bad.

We'll explore some options that will allow you to test this in
advance.

Look deeply at your code. Challenge assumptions you made based on
behavior that might not be to OAuth spec. This goes for everything
OAuth related. If you find something that we do that isn't to the
OAuth spec, let us know.

And while you're at it, don't forget to switch all your OAuth end
point URLs to using HTTPs: request_token, authorization, and
access_token.

Thanks!
Taylor
http://twitter.com/episod

On Mar 12, 7:28 am, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com
wrote:
 Hello Developers,

 Though it certainly would be more correct for us to properly set the
 Content-Type HTTP header throughout the OAuth token acquisition
 process to application/x-www-form-urlencoded, it has caused some
 issues with a number of applications. This afternoon we will restore
 the original behavior of setting the Content-Type header to text/
 html.

 Being in compliance with the OAuth specification is important to us.
 Consider our old behavior now on deprecation notice. In four weeks or
 so we'll begin setting the Content-Type header correctly again. We'll
 announce a more formal deprecation date within a week of deployment.

 We invite you to do the right thing with us.

 Thanks!

 Taylorhttp://twitter.com/episod

Re: [twitter-dev] Getting IP of user from Tweets

2010-03-12 Thread Raffi Krikorian

http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source.html

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:46 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
zzn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Actually, the native Twitter web page does use your IP address to
 geolocate. I haven't been able to make it work yet with Chrome, and I
 haven't tried it on Windows with IE8, but on Linux, with Firefox 3.6,
 Twitter asks the browser to determine location. Firefox does it thusly:

 http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/geolocation/

 Curiously enough, I haven't found where Firefox announces what it has
 figured out for your location to you. I saw the menu that *Twitter* had of
 possible locations, but I didn't see anything in *Firefox* with that list!
 It must be there, but I haven't found it.


 --
 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
 borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

 A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul
 Erdos





 Quoting Zac Bowling zbowl...@gmail.com:

  The user's IP isn't available. Would be a huge security and privacy issue.

 However location is possible using the new geo features. It's opt in and
 it
 requires the user use client that supports sending location data, but the
 accuracy is far greater then any kind of geo-ip lookup could offer.

 Zac Bowling


 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:08 PM, PRAVEEN KUMAR  erpraveen2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi All,

 I want to get IP address of user based on the last tweet sent by him.
 Message may be sent from machine or from mobile but in both the cases
 whatever IP he has used I need that in my application to find out
 user's current location.

 Please help me in getting this detail.Which API function can solve my
 problem ?

 Thanks.
 (Praveen Kumar)






-- 
Raffi Krikorian
Twitter Platform Team
http://twitter.com/raffi

Re: [twitter-dev] Impossible to make a reliable cursor on timelines using query args

2010-03-12 Thread Brian Smith


Zero wrote:

1. Assume we are at since_id = 1000.  This was the last (highest)
message id we had previously seen, which we have saved.
2. There is a sudden spiked and 2000 tweets come in.
3. We now try to query with since_id=1000, count=200 (the max).
Unfortunately, we have missed
 1800 tweets, because we only get the most recent 200 tweets.
   
In step 3, you will get the 200 newest statuses, statuses 2801-3000. If 
you want 200 most recent statuses that are older than the ones you just 
got (that is, you want statuses 2601-2800), then you can query using 
max_id=2800, count=200, since_id=1000. You can keep doing this until 
Twitter returns zero tweets (which means it is refusing to give you any 
older tweets) or until Twitter returns the tweet with id=1000.


(Note: You might be tempted to set since_id=1001 in order to avoid 
downloading the tweet with id 1000 twice; however, doing so will just 
cause problems and complications, and I don't recommend it.)


Twitter is designed to be about what is happening right now, and not 
so much to be about everything that happened between the last time you 
checked (could be weeks ago) and right now. That's why there's no API 
call to get new tweets oldest-first, and that's why you can't even get 
access to tweets older than the most recent ~3000 or so.


Although there are Twitter users that really want to read every tweet in 
their timelines, Twitter's design--especially the website UI--doesn't 
facilitate that behavior. If you are developing an end-user client, be 
aware that the user probably doesn't want to read every tweet and almost 
definitely doesn't want to wait for dozens of API calls to complete 
before they see the refreshed timeline. I recommend optimizing apps for 
showing what's happening right now, whenever it is practical to do so. 
When I first started using Twitter I treated it more like a 
self-organizing forum for having conversations with people (so reading 
every tweet would be important), but I gave up as Twitter simply doesn't 
work well for that now.


Regards,
Brian

[twitter-dev] 401 Unauthorized

2010-03-12 Thread Uladzimir Pashkevich

Hi everyone,

I am developing an application using Twitter API and I have
encountered into a strange behavior connected with 401 error. I am
using basic auth. When I run my application locally, it works just
fine and I never get any 401 errors. However, when I run my
application on another environment, I get 401 error in approximately
80% cases. I am completely sure that the credentials are correct.

What makes this situation even more weird is that I am working with
several accounts, and most of them work fine in both environments. I
am experiencing problems only with one account. All accounts I work
with are whitelisted, so rate limit should not be an issue here.

I have no idea what may cause this behavior. Could you please explain
me the possible reasons I am getting 401?

Thanks,
Uladzimir

Re: [twitter-dev] Retweet parent

2010-03-12 Thread Mark McBride

Yes, look at the retweeted_status element contained in the status element

  ---Mark

http://twitter.com/mccv


2010/3/12 Otávio Augusto Soares otavi...@gmail.com

 Is there a way of identify the root tweet by a retweet?

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Application based on Search API

2010-03-12 Thread John Kalucki

5e is intended to cover publication of general statistics about the streams,
such as Tweets per second, etc., not the display of Tweets themselves.

The new Commercial License should be a lot clearer.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Stephen Rife stephenr...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 3月10日, 午後10:22, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
  Not sure about the REST/Search API, but on the Streaming side:
 
  http://twitter.com/pdfs/streaming_api_eula.pdf
 
  ... see Restrictions ...
 

 Reading the Content License Agreement for the streaming API I am
 confused by how the granting of a license to publicly display the
 content from the streams (1i. Content License) works with the
 obligation to use only for internal purposes.  What does internal
 purposes mean here? Does the unless expressly authorized herein
 part negate the restriction to not release the data publicly? Or this
 just to prevent people from reselling the data?

  from  CLA  start --
 1. Content License.
 Twitter grants you a nonexclusive, revocable
 license to use the Content to: (i) use, reproduce, distribute,
 transmit, publicly display and publicly perform the Content thereof,
 solely on and through your Service. 

 

 5. Your Obligations.
 (e) User Data.
 You may only use the Content and Content Feed and any data resulting
 or provided therefrom for internal purposes only and, unless expressly
 authorized herein, you may not publicly release or disclose any data
 or usage statistics or other information (in the aggregate or
 otherwise) regarding the Content.  You agree to and will make
 available to Twitter any data, usage statistics or
 other information (in the aggregate) regarding the access and use of
 the Content.

  from  CLA end --


 - Steve Rife
 DIgital Garage
 http://twitter.com/melobubu

Re: [twitter-dev] Getting IP of user from Tweets

Thanks!! Incidentally, the Firefox documentation says that Firefox  
doesn't store the retrieved location info anywhere, either on my  
client or on Mozilla servers. It's passing whatever it got from  
Google's service directly to Twitter.


So we have essentially Google and Twitter and my ISP all talking to  
each other trying to figure out where I am and mostly getting it  
wrong. Out of the three options Twitter gave me, two were totally  
wrong and one was right only in the broadest sense - technically, my  
zip code matches.


--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdos

Quoting Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com:


http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source.html

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:46 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
zzn...@gmail.comwrote:


Actually, the native Twitter web page does use your IP address to
geolocate. I haven't been able to make it work yet with Chrome, and I
haven't tried it on Windows with IE8, but on Linux, with Firefox 3.6,
Twitter asks the browser to determine location. Firefox does it thusly:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/geolocation/

Curiously enough, I haven't found where Firefox announces what it has
figured out for your location to you. I saw the menu that *Twitter* had of
possible locations, but I didn't see anything in *Firefox* with that list!
It must be there, but I haven't found it.


--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul
Erdos





Quoting Zac Bowling zbowl...@gmail.com:

 The user's IP isn't available. Would be a huge security and privacy issue.


However location is possible using the new geo features. It's opt in and
it
requires the user use client that supports sending location data, but the
accuracy is far greater then any kind of geo-ip lookup could offer.

Zac Bowling


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:08 PM, PRAVEEN KUMAR  erpraveen2...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi All,


I want to get IP address of user based on the last tweet sent by him.
Message may be sent from machine or from mobile but in both the cases
whatever IP he has used I need that in my application to find out
user's current location.

Please help me in getting this detail.Which API function can solve my
problem ?

Thanks.
(Praveen Kumar)









--
Raffi Krikorian
Twitter Platform Team
http://twitter.com/raffi

Re: [twitter-dev] Retweet parent

If the retweet was accomplished with the built-in retweet button, the  
original tweet is embedded inside the tweet - it's a status object  
value with the key retweeted_status.

--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erd?s


Quoting Otávio Augusto Soares otavi...@gmail.com:


Is there a way of identify the root tweet by a retweet?

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Application based on Search API

Am I to assume then that those who comment on tweet volume in the  
trade press by simply looking at status IDs as they go by, using the  
*REST* API, are exempt from this? I keep running into blog posts by  
social media scientists who are using status ID as a proxy for total  
tweet volume - there's even a web site that just displays the status  
ID counting up!


What about people who are using the publicly-available sample and  
filter streams? Is it a violation of TOS to publish statistics  
derived from those? I ask because I've actually done that - right here  
on this list! If I'm not supposed to do that, I apologize. But it's  
stuff that people are insanely curious about, both for business  
reasons and for the sheer entertainment value of the Twitter  
phenomenon.

--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdos


Quoting John Kalucki j...@twitter.com:


5e is intended to cover publication of general statistics about the streams,
such as Tweets per second, etc., not the display of Tweets themselves.

The new Commercial License should be a lot clearer.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Stephen Rife stephenr...@gmail.com wrote:



On 3月10日, 午後10:22, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 Not sure about the REST/Search API, but on the Streaming side:

 http://twitter.com/pdfs/streaming_api_eula.pdf

 ... see Restrictions ...


Reading the Content License Agreement for the streaming API I am
confused by how the granting of a license to publicly display the
content from the streams (1i. Content License) works with the
obligation to use only for internal purposes.  What does internal
purposes mean here? Does the unless expressly authorized herein
part negate the restriction to not release the data publicly? Or this
just to prevent people from reselling the data?

 from  CLA  start --
1. Content License.
Twitter grants you a nonexclusive, revocable
license to use the Content to: (i) use, reproduce, distribute,
transmit, publicly display and publicly perform the Content thereof,
solely on and through your Service. 



5. Your Obligations.
(e) User Data.
You may only use the Content and Content Feed and any data resulting
or provided therefrom for internal purposes only and, unless expressly
authorized herein, you may not publicly release or disclose any data
or usage statistics or other information (in the aggregate or
otherwise) regarding the Content.  You agree to and will make
available to Twitter any data, usage statistics or
other information (in the aggregate) regarding the access and use of
the Content.

 from  CLA end --


- Steve Rife
DIgital Garage
http://twitter.com/melobubu

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Application based on Search API

2010-03-12 Thread John Kalucki

There is considerable inconsistency, ambiguity and change in these areas.
For example, we announced the 50mm tweets/day thing recently. This is
frustrating. We're working to rationalize all of this.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:42 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
zzn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Am I to assume then that those who comment on tweet volume in the trade
 press by simply looking at status IDs as they go by, using the *REST* API,
 are exempt from this? I keep running into blog posts by social media
 scientists who are using status ID as a proxy for total tweet volume -
 there's even a web site that just displays the status ID counting up!

 What about people who are using the publicly-available sample and
 filter streams? Is it a violation of TOS to publish statistics derived
 from those? I ask because I've actually done that - right here on this list!
 If I'm not supposed to do that, I apologize. But it's stuff that people are
 insanely curious about, both for business reasons and for the sheer
 entertainment value of the Twitter phenomenon.
 --
 M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
 borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

 A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul
 Erdos



 Quoting John Kalucki j...@twitter.com:

  5e is intended to cover publication of general statistics about the
 streams,
 such as Tweets per second, etc., not the display of Tweets themselves.

 The new Commercial License should be a lot clearer.

 -John Kalucki
 http://twitter.com/jkalucki
 Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Stephen Rife stephenr...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On 3月10日, 午後10:22, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
  Not sure about the REST/Search API, but on the Streaming side:
 
  http://twitter.com/pdfs/streaming_api_eula.pdf
 
  ... see Restrictions ...
 

 Reading the Content License Agreement for the streaming API I am
 confused by how the granting of a license to publicly display the
 content from the streams (1i. Content License) works with the
 obligation to use only for internal purposes.  What does internal
 purposes mean here? Does the unless expressly authorized herein
 part negate the restriction to not release the data publicly? Or this
 just to prevent people from reselling the data?

  from  CLA  start --
 1. Content License.
 Twitter grants you a nonexclusive, revocable
 license to use the Content to: (i) use, reproduce, distribute,
 transmit, publicly display and publicly perform the Content thereof,
 solely on and through your Service. 

 

 5. Your Obligations.
 (e) User Data.
 You may only use the Content and Content Feed and any data resulting
 or provided therefrom for internal purposes only and, unless expressly
 authorized herein, you may not publicly release or disclose any data
 or usage statistics or other information (in the aggregate or
 otherwise) regarding the Content.  You agree to and will make
 available to Twitter any data, usage statistics or
 other information (in the aggregate) regarding the access and use of
 the Content.

  from  CLA end --


 - Steve Rife
 DIgital Garage
 http://twitter.com/melobubu

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Application based on Search API


Yeah - I totally understand, being a recovering capacity planner. ;-)
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul Erdos


Quoting John Kalucki j...@twitter.com:


There is considerable inconsistency, ambiguity and change in these areas.
For example, we announced the 50mm tweets/day thing recently. This is
frustrating. We're working to rationalize all of this.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:42 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
zzn...@gmail.comwrote:


Am I to assume then that those who comment on tweet volume in the trade
press by simply looking at status IDs as they go by, using the *REST* API,
are exempt from this? I keep running into blog posts by social media
scientists who are using status ID as a proxy for total tweet volume -
there's even a web site that just displays the status ID counting up!

What about people who are using the publicly-available sample and
filter streams? Is it a violation of TOS to publish statistics derived
from those? I ask because I've actually done that - right here on this list!
If I'm not supposed to do that, I apologize. But it's stuff that people are
insanely curious about, both for business reasons and for the sheer
entertainment value of the Twitter phenomenon.
--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky/

A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. ~ Paul
Erdos



Quoting John Kalucki j...@twitter.com:

 5e is intended to cover publication of general statistics about the

streams,
such as Tweets per second, etc., not the display of Tweets themselves.

The new Commercial License should be a lot clearer.

-John Kalucki
http://twitter.com/jkalucki
Infrastructure, Twitter Inc.


On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Stephen Rife stephenr...@gmail.com
wrote:



On 3月10日, 午後10:22, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 Not sure about the REST/Search API, but on the Streaming side:

 http://twitter.com/pdfs/streaming_api_eula.pdf

 ... see Restrictions ...


Reading the Content License Agreement for the streaming API I am
confused by how the granting of a license to publicly display the
content from the streams (1i. Content License) works with the
obligation to use only for internal purposes.  What does internal
purposes mean here? Does the unless expressly authorized herein
part negate the restriction to not release the data publicly? Or this
just to prevent people from reselling the data?

 from  CLA  start --
1. Content License.
Twitter grants you a nonexclusive, revocable
license to use the Content to: (i) use, reproduce, distribute,
transmit, publicly display and publicly perform the Content thereof,
solely on and through your Service. 



5. Your Obligations.
(e) User Data.
You may only use the Content and Content Feed and any data resulting
or provided therefrom for internal purposes only and, unless expressly
authorized herein, you may not publicly release or disclose any data
or usage statistics or other information (in the aggregate or
otherwise) regarding the Content.  You agree to and will make
available to Twitter any data, usage statistics or
other information (in the aggregate) regarding the access and use of
the Content.

 from  CLA end --


- Steve Rife
DIgital Garage
http://twitter.com/melobubu

Re: [twitter-dev] Impossible to make a reliable cursor on timelines using query args

2010-03-12 Thread Zero Hero

Brian,

Thanks for your reply.  I suspected that the freshness was the reason that
this was done.  Also the fact that
twitter started as a service for humans, and now is being used
programatically.

However, from an API standpoint this makes no sense.  It's typical to want
to crawl forward through a stream
without missing anything.  The current API creates a problem with
reliability and also baroqueness of implementation.
For those people thinking of Twitter as a messaging API, it seems incredibly
unnatural to not be able to easily
and reliably process things in chronological order without worrying about
the rate being slightly too high.  This
exhibits itself as messages dropping once you have more than 200 in a
sample period.  True, you're not
dropping messages, but that's the way it'll be perceived.

The fact that the ids are non-sequential (for a stream), means that you have
to bend over backward to do this
simple thing.  Note that the algorithm you give actually has to be altered.
Since the ids are non-sequential, we'll
have to backtrack by using the entire previous sequence (-200), and then
find the message that is 200 back
(it won't be N-200).  So we'll start out with the largest range and then
revise it as we discover the newest
low water mark.  This fact is hidden by the simpler numbers I chose to
use.

Also note that 3200  200.  So I potentially have to do this backtracking
16 times to get all my (undropped)
messages.

Anyone who has a decent programming background will think this is lame.
People who have less background will simply
be confused (I've seen a fair amount of Twitter drops my tweets bug
reports which could be due to this simple
misunderstanding).  Also, If I write out the full algorithm to do reliable
forward iteration, I'd bet you'd get a double
take from most people.

Although I don't know the twitter code, this is really just determined by
the sort order of your result set (whether you
get the most recent results or least recent).  It would be easy enough to
put another switch that gives you the
least recent, and default to most recent.  That provides you will the result
you want (people automatically get
most recent), but allows anyone who needs the ability (most programmers), to
scan forward easily.

Respectfully,

Zero.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Brian Smith br...@briansmith.org wrote:

 Zero wrote:

 1. Assume we are at since_id = 1000.  This was the last (highest)
 message id we had previously seen, which we have saved.
 2. There is a sudden spiked and 2000 tweets come in.
 3. We now try to query with since_id=1000, count=200 (the max).
 Unfortunately, we have missed
 1800 tweets, because we only get the most recent 200 tweets.


 In step 3, you will get the 200 newest statuses, statuses 2801-3000. If you
 want 200 most recent statuses that are older than the ones you just got
 (that is, you want statuses 2601-2800), then you can query using
 max_id=2800, count=200, since_id=1000. You can keep doing this until Twitter
 returns zero tweets (which means it is refusing to give you any older
 tweets) or until Twitter returns the tweet with id=1000.

 (Note: You might be tempted to set since_id=1001 in order to avoid
 downloading the tweet with id 1000 twice; however, doing so will just cause
 problems and complications, and I don't recommend it.)

 Twitter is designed to be about what is happening right now, and not so
 much to be about everything that happened between the last time you checked
 (could be weeks ago) and right now. That's why there's no API call to get
 new tweets oldest-first, and that's why you can't even get access to tweets
 older than the most recent ~3000 or so.

 Although there are Twitter users that really want to read every tweet in
 their timelines, Twitter's design--especially the website UI--doesn't
 facilitate that behavior. If you are developing an end-user client, be aware
 that the user probably doesn't want to read every tweet and almost
 definitely doesn't want to wait for dozens of API calls to complete before
 they see the refreshed timeline. I recommend optimizing apps for showing
 what's happening right now, whenever it is practical to do so. When I first
 started using Twitter I treated it more like a self-organizing forum for
 having conversations with people (so reading every tweet would be
 important), but I gave up as Twitter simply doesn't work well for that now.

 Regards,
 Brian

[twitter-dev] OAuth POST gets 401 with no data/error message returned

2010-03-12 Thread SM

My desktop app uses Adobe AIR with Javascript. I'm using the OAuth
javascript library from here:

http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/javascript/

I am able to POST with xAuth to get the token/token_secret. I am then
able to GET timelines using the received tokens. However, so far I am
unable to POST to send updates or create/destroy favorites. When I
compare the Authorization header my code generates with the one you
can generate manually at this site:


http://hueniverse.com/2008/10/beginners-guide-to-oauth-part-iv-signing-requests/

they are identical. Nevertheless, I am getting a 401 status back but
no JSON data telling me what the error is.

First question: any idea what might be going on here?
Second question: Under what conditions would one get a 401 status, but
no data describing the error?

Stumped!

Re: [twitter-dev] OAuth POST gets 401 with no data/error message returned

Can you present an example of you POSTing to a resource? An example
signature base string of what you're trying to accomplish and the
example POST body you are sending?

Thanks!

Taylor Singletary
Developer Advocate, Twitter
http://twitter.com/episod



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:22 PM, SM sanja...@gmail.com wrote:
 My desktop app uses Adobe AIR with Javascript. I'm using the OAuth
 javascript library from here:

    http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/javascript/

 I am able to POST with xAuth to get the token/token_secret. I am then
 able to GET timelines using the received tokens. However, so far I am
 unable to POST to send updates or create/destroy favorites. When I
 compare the Authorization header my code generates with the one you
 can generate manually at this site:

    
 http://hueniverse.com/2008/10/beginners-guide-to-oauth-part-iv-signing-requests/

 they are identical. Nevertheless, I am getting a 401 status back but
 no JSON data telling me what the error is.

 First question: any idea what might be going on here?
 Second question: Under what conditions would one get a 401 status, but
 no data describing the error?

 Stumped!

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth POST gets 401 with no data/error message returned

2010-03-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius

Is this issue perhaps related to the one I raised two days ago?

http://bit.ly/9dG7jk

On Mar 12, 4:55 pm, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com
wrote:
 Can you present an example of you POSTing to a resource? An example
 signature base string of what you're trying to accomplish and the
 example POST body you are sending?

 Thanks!

 Taylor Singletary
 Developer Advocate, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/episod

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:22 PM, SM sanja...@gmail.com wrote:
  My desktop app uses Adobe AIR with Javascript. I'm using the OAuth
  javascript library from here:

     http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/javascript/

  I am able to POST with xAuth to get the token/token_secret. I am then
  able to GET timelines using the received tokens. However, so far I am
  unable to POST to send updates or create/destroy favorites. When I
  compare the Authorization header my code generates with the one you
  can generate manually at this site:

     http://hueniverse.com/2008/10/beginners-guide-to-oauth-part-iv-signin...

  they are identical. Nevertheless, I am getting a 401 status back but
  no JSON data telling me what the error is.

  First question: any idea what might be going on here?
  Second question: Under what conditions would one get a 401 status, but
  no data describing the error?

  Stumped!

Re: [twitter-dev] Impossible to make a reliable cursor on timelines using query args

2010-03-12 Thread Mark McBride

Am I missing something regarding the complexity of doing this?

Ruby pseudo-code:

my_unread_tweets = []
page = 1
count = 200
since_id = 123098485120985

while(page_of_tweets = get_tweets(
http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/home_timeline.json?page=#{page}count=#{count}since_id=#{since_id};))
do
my_unread_tweets page_of_tweets
end

I agree it's more complex than
get_all_my_tweets_disregarding_the_size_of_the_actual_list_since(since_id)...
however implementing such a method in a scalable way is pretty rough.

---Mark

http://twitter.com/mccv

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Zero Hero zeroh...@qoobly.com wrote:

Brian,

Thanks for your reply. I suspected that the freshness was the reason
that this was done. Also the fact that
twitter started as a service for humans, and now is being used
programatically.

However, from an API standpoint this makes no sense. It's typical to want
to crawl forward through a stream
without missing anything. The current API creates a problem with
reliability and also baroqueness of implementation.
For those people thinking of Twitter as a messaging API, it seems
incredibly unnatural to not be able to easily
and reliably process things in chronological order without worrying about
the rate being slightly too high. This
exhibits itself as messages dropping once you have more than 200 in a
sample period. True, you're not
dropping messages, but that's the way it'll be perceived.

The fact that the ids are non-sequential (for a stream), means that you
have to bend over backward to do this
simple thing. Note that the algorithm you give actually has to be
altered. Since the ids are non-sequential, we'll
have to backtrack by using the entire previous sequence (-200), and then
find the message that is 200 back
(it won't be N-200). So we'll start out with the largest range and then
revise it as we discover the newest
low water mark. This fact is hidden by the simpler numbers I chose to
use.

Also note that 3200 200. So I potentially have to do this backtracking
16 times to get all my (undropped)
messages.

Anyone who has a decent programming background will think this is lame.
People who have less background will simply
be confused (I've seen a fair amount of Twitter drops my tweets bug
reports which could be due to this simple
misunderstanding). Also, If I write out the full algorithm to do reliable
forward iteration, I'd bet you'd get a double
take from most people.

Although I don't know the twitter code, this is really just determined by
the sort order of your result set (whether you
get the most recent results or least recent). It would be easy enough to
put another switch that gives you the
least recent, and default to most recent. That provides you will the
result you want (people automatically get
most recent), but allows anyone who needs the ability (most programmers),
to scan forward easily.

Respectfully,

Zero.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Brian Smith br...@briansmith.org wrote:

Zero wrote:

1. Assume we are at since_id = 1000. This was the last (highest)
message id we had previously seen, which we have saved.
2. There is a sudden spiked and 2000 tweets come in.
3. We now try to query with since_id=1000, count=200 (the max).
Unfortunately, we have missed
1800 tweets, because we only get the most recent 200 tweets.

In step 3, you will get the 200 newest statuses, statuses 2801-3000. If
you want 200 most recent statuses that are older than the ones you just got
(that is, you want statuses 2601-2800), then you can query using
max_id=2800, count=200, since_id=1000. You can keep doing this until Twitter
returns zero tweets (which means it is refusing to give you any older
tweets) or until Twitter returns the tweet with id=1000.

(Note: You might be tempted to set since_id=1001 in order to avoid
downloading the tweet with id 1000 twice; however, doing so will just cause
problems and complications, and I don't recommend it.)

Twitter is designed to be about what is happening right now, and not so
much to be about everything that happened between the last time you checked
(could be weeks ago) and right now. That's why there's no API call to get
new tweets oldest-first, and that's why you can't even get access to tweets
older than the most recent ~3000 or so.

Although there are Twitter users that really want to read every tweet in
their timelines, Twitter's design--especially the website UI--doesn't
facilitate that behavior. If you are developing an end-user client, be aware
that the user probably doesn't want to read every tweet and almost
definitely doesn't want to wait for dozens of API calls to complete before
they see the refreshed timeline. I recommend optimizing apps for showing
what's happening right now, whenever it is practical to do so. When I first
started using Twitter I treated it more like a self-organizing forum for
having conversations with people (so

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth POST gets 401 with no data/error message returned

2010-03-12 Thread SM

Hi Taylor,

Here is an example of trying to create a favorite on status
10390395026. Here is the base string:

POSThttps%3A%2F%2Fapi.twitter.com%2F1%2Ffavorites%2Fcreate
%2F10390395026.jsonid%3D10390395026%26oauth_consumer_key
%3DoVpGXZGmqq7NyScJTLd7Xg%26oauth_nonce
%3DogJ8y0%26oauth_signature_method%3DHMAC-SHA1%26oauth_timestamp
%3D1268428713%26oauth_token%3D10881-
YdTJEhpXTBk2NJyg3juPXV8rq05jfGLp6HA1rk6MvI%26oauth_version%3D1.0

Here is the Authorization header:

OAuth realm=,oauth_version=1.0,oauth_signature_method=HMAC-
SHA1,oauth_nonce=ogJ8y0,oauth_token=10881-
YdTJEhpXTBk2NJyg3juPXV8rq05jfGLp6HA1rk6MvI,oauth_timestamp=1268428713,oauth_signature=4EM
%2FeX8xCFnW77zWtTTKFQoftaQ
%3D,oauth_consumer_key=oVpGXZGmqq7NyScJTLd7Xg

The POST body is just:

id=10390395026

The URL is:

https://api.twitter.com/1/favorites/create/10390395026.json


Thanks.



On Mar 12, 12:55 pm, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com
wrote:
 Can you present an example of you POSTing to a resource? An example
 signature base string of what you're trying to accomplish and the
 example POST body you are sending?

 Thanks!

 Taylor Singletary
 Developer Advocate, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/episod

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:22 PM, SM sanja...@gmail.com wrote:
  My desktop app uses Adobe AIR with Javascript. I'm using the OAuth
  javascript library from here:

     http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/javascript/

  I am able to POST with xAuth to get the token/token_secret. I am then
  able to GET timelines using the received tokens. However, so far I am
  unable to POST to send updates or create/destroy favorites. When I
  compare the Authorization header my code generates with the one you
  can generate manually at this site:

     http://hueniverse.com/2008/10/beginners-guide-to-oauth-part-iv-signin...

  they are identical. Nevertheless, I am getting a 401 status back but
  no JSON data telling me what the error is.

  First question: any idea what might be going on here?
  Second question: Under what conditions would one get a 401 status, but
  no data describing the error?

  Stumped!

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth POST gets 401 with no data/error message returned

2010-03-12 Thread Dewald Pretorius

Taylor,

Under what circumstances does your system return a 401 HTTP status
code but does not include a properly formed XML or JSON error
construct to explain the 401?

Find that, and I think you will find the problem.


On Mar 12, 4:22 pm, SM sanja...@gmail.com wrote:
 My desktop app uses Adobe AIR with Javascript. I'm using the OAuth
 javascript library from here:

    http://oauth.googlecode.com/svn/code/javascript/

 I am able to POST with xAuth to get the token/token_secret. I am then
 able to GET timelines using the received tokens. However, so far I am
 unable to POST to send updates or create/destroy favorites. When I
 compare the Authorization header my code generates with the one you
 can generate manually at this site:

    http://hueniverse.com/2008/10/beginners-guide-to-oauth-part-iv-signin...

 they are identical. Nevertheless, I am getting a 401 status back but
 no JSON data telling me what the error is.

 First question: any idea what might be going on here?
 Second question: Under what conditions would one get a 401 status, but
 no data describing the error?

 Stumped!

Re: [twitter-dev] Impossible to make a reliable cursor on timelines using query args

2010-03-12 Thread Marc Mims

* Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.com [100312 13:24]:
 Am I missing something regarding the complexity of doing this?
 
 Ruby pseudo-code:
 
 my_unread_tweets = []
 page = 1
 count = 200
 since_id = 123098485120985
 
 while(page_of_tweets = get_tweets(
 http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/home_timeline.json?page=#{page}count=#{count}since_id=#{since_id};))
 do
   my_unread_tweets  page_of_tweets
 end
 
 I agree it's more complex than
 get_all_my_tweets_disregarding_the_size_of_the_actual_list_since(since_id)...
 however implementing such a method in a scalable way is pretty rough.

I've never found since_id reliable.  If I read the home timeline and
save the most recent since_id, I often discover that new (i.e., statuses
I've never seen) get posted out of sequence---they have lower IDs than
the most recent since_id I saved.

I think that's what makes using since_id as a cursor difficult.

As a work-around, I keep a list of the most recent 200 ids I've seen and
always get some overlap on a new call so I can pick up any recent
statuses delivered out of order.

-Marc

[twitter-dev] Refresh page via the API

Hey all,
  I'm using the Twitter API for a desktop application. Is there a way
of sending a POST header (or something) that will automatically
refresh the page after an action has been performed? For example, I
can update the user's profile picture via my app, but the change can't
be seen until I manually refresh the page. Is there a way, maybe with
AJAX (?), to update the page automatically once the profile picture
has been changed?

Thanks for any help

P Louw

[twitter-dev] Re: Sign Out no longer works

I can also confirm this in Chrome, but was fine in FireFox. In order
to get rid of the issue, I deleted the Twitter cookie from Chrome's
options menu and now it works fine.

[twitter-dev] Re: Search tweets from users in list

2010-03-12 Thread twitterdoug

That feature does not exist yet.

-Doug

On Mar 11, 10:32 am, Lukas Müller webmas...@muellerlukas.de wrote:
 Hello,

 is there any possibility to search tweets from users that are on list
 xyz/123 (as example ;-)) via the twitter search RSS feed?

 Already tried the following queries with no result:
 @xyz/123
 from:xyz/123

 Thank you and greetings from germany :-)
 Lukas

Re: [twitter-dev] Refresh page via the API

1) No, don't think there is ...
2) Why do you need to refresh the page in a forced fashion in a
desktop app? If you're running a web control with the page in it,
refresh it ... if you're talking about any/all instances of the
browser page ... well, why?

∞ Andy Badera
∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:02 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,
  I'm using the Twitter API for a desktop application. Is there a way
 of sending a POST header (or something) that will automatically
 refresh the page after an action has been performed? For example, I
 can update the user's profile picture via my app, but the change can't
 be seen until I manually refresh the page. Is there a way, maybe with
 AJAX (?), to update the page automatically once the profile picture
 has been changed?

 Thanks for any help

 P Louw

[twitter-dev] Re: We're rolling back the Content-Type header correction on OAuth responses to text/html today - Deprecation Notice

We'll be correcting this on Monday instead of today, folks.

Have a great weekend.

Taylor

On Friday, March 12, 2010, Taylor Singletary
taylorsinglet...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hello Developers,

 Though it certainly would be more correct for us to properly set the
 Content-Type HTTP header throughout the OAuth token acquisition
 process to application/x-www-form-urlencoded, it has caused some
 issues with a number of applications. This afternoon we will restore
 the original behavior of setting the Content-Type header to text/
 html.

 Being in compliance with the OAuth specification is important to us.
 Consider our old behavior now on deprecation notice. In four weeks or
 so we'll begin setting the Content-Type header correctly again. We'll
 announce a more formal deprecation date within a week of deployment.

 We invite you to do the right thing with us.

 Thanks!

 Taylor
 http://twitter.com/episod


-- 
Taylor Singletary
Developer Advocate, Twitter
http://twitter.com/episod

[twitter-dev] Re: Refresh page via the API

Hi,
The desktop application I'm working on is used to customize your
Twitter page. Therefore, any changes you make in the app can be seen
in your Twitter page. However, at the moment, everytime the user makes
a change, they have to open the browser and refresh. I thought it
would be nicer to simply show the changes in real time without the
updating.

On Mar 13, 12:17 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 1) No, don't think there is ...
 2) Why do you need to refresh the page in a forced fashion in a
 desktop app? If you're running a web control with the page in it,
 refresh it ... if you're talking about any/all instances of the
 browser page ... well, why?

 ∞ Andy Badera
 ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
 ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
 ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:02 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey all,
   I'm using the Twitter API for a desktop application. Is there a way
  of sending a POST header (or something) that will automatically
  refresh the page after an action has been performed? For example, I
  can update the user's profile picture via my app, but the change can't
  be seen until I manually refresh the page. Is there a way, maybe with
  AJAX (?), to update the page automatically once the profile picture
  has been changed?

  Thanks for any help

  P Louw

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Refresh page via the API

Host a webpage in your desktop app for those purposes.

--ab



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:36 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 The desktop application I'm working on is used to customize your
 Twitter page. Therefore, any changes you make in the app can be seen
 in your Twitter page. However, at the moment, everytime the user makes
 a change, they have to open the browser and refresh. I thought it
 would be nicer to simply show the changes in real time without the
 updating.

 On Mar 13, 12:17 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 1) No, don't think there is ...
 2) Why do you need to refresh the page in a forced fashion in a
 desktop app? If you're running a web control with the page in it,
 refresh it ... if you're talking about any/all instances of the
 browser page ... well, why?

 ∞ Andy Badera
 ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
 ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
 ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:02 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey all,
   I'm using the Twitter API for a desktop application. Is there a way
  of sending a POST header (or something) that will automatically
  refresh the page after an action has been performed? For example, I
  can update the user's profile picture via my app, but the change can't
  be seen until I manually refresh the page. Is there a way, maybe with
  AJAX (?), to update the page automatically once the profile picture
  has been changed?

  Thanks for any help

  P Louw

Re: [twitter-dev] Impossible to make a reliable cursor on timelines using query args

2010-03-12 Thread Zero Hero

Not complex, just not obvious. When things are done in an unconventional
way, you need more explaining, unfortunately.
As mentioned before the only difference between what you're doing now and
this is the order of the results. You return
the top, and sometimes you need the bottom. Is that really hard to do in a
scalable way?

The disadvantage of not providing this is you now have to buffer, possibly
3200 messages, just to make sure
things are correct. Also, we now have a potentially large latency (16
calls), to begin processing.

None of this is a huge deal. It's cool you guys provide an API. If it
can't be changed, it could be solved with docs.

I'm not whining, I'm just sayin...

Zero

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.com wrote:

Am I missing something regarding the complexity of doing this?

Ruby pseudo-code:

my_unread_tweets = []
page = 1
count = 200
since_id = 123098485120985

while(page_of_tweets = get_tweets(
http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/home_timeline.json?page=#{page}count=#{count}since_id=#{since_id};))
do
my_unread_tweets page_of_tweets
end

I agree it's more complex than
get_all_my_tweets_disregarding_the_size_of_the_actual_list_since(since_id)...
however implementing such a method in a scalable way is pretty rough.

---Mark

http://twitter.com/mccv

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Zero Hero zeroh...@qoobly.com wrote:

Brian,

Thanks for your reply. I suspected that the freshness was the reason
that this was done. Also the fact that
twitter started as a service for humans, and now is being used
programatically.

Also note that 3200 200. So I potentially have to do this backtracking
16 times to get all my (undropped)
messages.

Respectfully,

Zero.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Brian Smith br...@briansmith.orgwrote:

Zero wrote:

(Note: You might be tempted to set since_id=1001 in order to avoid
downloading the tweet with id 1000 twice; however, doing so will just cause
problems and complications, and I don't recommend it.)

Twitter is designed to be about what is happening right now, and not so
much to be about everything that happened between the last time you checked
(could be weeks ago) and right

[twitter-dev] Re: Refresh page via the API

If this was a web application, would there be another way of doing
this? Or would the web application also have to host the page in an
iFrame or something?

On Mar 13, 12:45 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 Host a webpage in your desktop app for those purposes.

 --ab



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:36 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
  The desktop application I'm working on is used to customize your
  Twitter page. Therefore, any changes you make in the app can be seen
  in your Twitter page. However, at the moment, everytime the user makes
  a change, they have to open the browser and refresh. I thought it
  would be nicer to simply show the changes in real time without the
  updating.

  On Mar 13, 12:17 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
  1) No, don't think there is ...
  2) Why do you need to refresh the page in a forced fashion in a
  desktop app? If you're running a web control with the page in it,
  refresh it ... if you're talking about any/all instances of the
  browser page ... well, why?

  ∞ Andy Badera
  ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
  ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
  ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera

  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:02 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hey all,
    I'm using the Twitter API for a desktop application. Is there a way
   of sending a POST header (or something) that will automatically
   refresh the page after an action has been performed? For example, I
   can update the user's profile picture via my app, but the change can't
   be seen until I manually refresh the page. Is there a way, maybe with
   AJAX (?), to update the page automatically once the profile picture
   has been changed?

   Thanks for any help

   P Louw

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Refresh page via the API

iframe, or pop a new window ...

--ab



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:02 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
 If this was a web application, would there be another way of doing
 this? Or would the web application also have to host the page in an
 iFrame or something?

 On Mar 13, 12:45 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
 Host a webpage in your desktop app for those purposes.

 --ab



 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:36 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
  The desktop application I'm working on is used to customize your
  Twitter page. Therefore, any changes you make in the app can be seen
  in your Twitter page. However, at the moment, everytime the user makes
  a change, they have to open the browser and refresh. I thought it
  would be nicer to simply show the changes in real time without the
  updating.

  On Mar 13, 12:17 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:
  1) No, don't think there is ...
  2) Why do you need to refresh the page in a forced fashion in a
  desktop app? If you're running a web control with the page in it,
  refresh it ... if you're talking about any/all instances of the
  browser page ... well, why?

  ∞ Andy Badera
  ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice
  ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
  ∞ Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera

  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:02 PM, P L homerthesimp...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hey all,
    I'm using the Twitter API for a desktop application. Is there a way
   of sending a POST header (or something) that will automatically
   refresh the page after an action has been performed? For example, I
   can update the user's profile picture via my app, but the change can't
   be seen until I manually refresh the page. Is there a way, maybe with
   AJAX (?), to update the page automatically once the profile picture
   has been changed?

   Thanks for any help

   P Louw

[twitter-dev] Search API...searching for videos

2010-03-12 Thread eco_bach

Hi
Currently in beat and viewable at http://www.tweetmasher.com, I am
building a Twitter search application and slowly adding new features.
One thing I would like to add is the ability to search for video
links.

Can anyone offer suggestions on what I would use in my search query?

I assume the links would be mostly youtube videos.

[twitter-dev] Search API...searching for videos

2010-03-12 Thread eco_bach

Hi
Currently in beta and viewable at http://www.tweetmasher.com, I am
building a Twitter search application and slowly adding new features.
One thing I would like to add is the ability to search for video
links.

Can anyone offer suggestions on what I would use in my search query?

I assume the links would be mostly youtube videos.

Re: [twitter-dev] Impossible to make a reliable cursor on timelines using query args

2010-03-12 Thread Brian Smith


Marc Mims wrote:

I've never found since_id reliable.  If I read the home timeline and
save the most recent since_id, I often discover that new (i.e., statuses
I've never seen) get posted out of sequence---they have lower IDs than
the most recent since_id I saved.
   

Do you have some example of this that you could point out?

I know if the user follows new people then what you described might 
happen. Otherwise, AFAICT, it should/must work, so if it doesn't then a 
bug should be filed. Some (interactive, mobile) clients cannot afford to 
re-download lots of tweets just to double-check whether some slipped 
through the cracks somehow.


I know a few weeks ago, Twitter said that status_ids will stop being 
strictly increasing at some point. If so, a new paging mechanism (not 
based on since_id or max_id) must also be deployed before that change 
happens.


Regards,
Brian

[twitter-dev] Search API from:username performance issues?

2010-03-12 Thread Chad Etzel

Hi dev team,

I've gotten progressively more complaints from TweetGrid users about
searches in the form of from:username not updating in a timely
fashion. I haven't changed my code in a while, so after investigating
it appears that the search index does lag behind a bit for from:
searches as compared to just keywords.

Is this a bug, or intentional?

Example (if you read this in time):
http://twitter.com/resourcefulmom
compared to
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from:resourcefulmom

Thanks,
-Chad

[twitter-dev] Re: Refresh page via the API