Re: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything before Delphi XE ?

2012-03-29 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
I'm currently on D7 (which is very stable). IMHO ICS should at least D7.

Michael


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From: twsocket-boun...@elists.org [mailto:twsocket-boun...@elists.org] On 
Behalf Of François Piette
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:59 PM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: [twsocket] Should next ICS version support anything before Delphi XE ?

Hi !



I'm planning the next ICS version...

Being unable to use any features added to Delphi in the last 10 years is
very restricted.  Maybe we need to cease support for old Delphi versions ?
Of course ICS V5 and V7 will remains available however, the only changes
will be bug fixes.



What do you think ? Please keep your answer as short as possible, I just
want to have an idea about how many of you are still using an old Delphi
version.



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Re: [twsocket] Decoding MIME messages

2009-11-18 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Francois,

I'm trying to write a very basic automation, which should try to detect some 
patterns within mails, and if a mail content matches, it should save that mail 
for further processing and delete it from the pop3 server. Each unprocessed 
('unknown' content) should stay on the server, until there's a handler for that 
unknown pattern.

In other words, it should be a system where rules/patterns are added as soon as 
they're needed.

What I've done so far is using a TPop3Cli component to read mails (in the first 
step without deleting from server) and a TMimeDecodeW component to get the 
contents. What's to do next is to separate readable (textual) parts of the mail 
and ignore all inlines or attachments.

I don't need full code, but a step by step guideline on how to accomplish it. 
Currently I'm trying to use TMimeDecodeEx, which seems toi do what I need.

Michael

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Behalf Of Francois PIETTE
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [twsocket] Decoding MIME messages

> What I basically need is to extract a text part from each mail, regardless
> how many contents it may have.

The "text part" is not well defined. You may have an HTML message which is
not trivial to convert to a text file. Rendered on screen by a HTML rendere,
it may looks like plain text but actually it isn't. You may also have an RTF
formatted message. Or a plain text part and a HTML part with eauivalent
content. You have to handle all the situation by detecting what format it
is. You are helped by the various headers.

Are you writing an email client, that is a program whose goal is to display
messages on screen ? Then you need ICS-POP3 component to retieve the
messages, ICS MIME component to extract the parts and as many renderer
component as you want to support messages types.

Are you writing some sort of automation which uses email as transport and
use the data within email for data processing and not to display it on
screen as an email ? That's a different thing.


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Re: [twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6

2009-11-17 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Arno,

I tried to use TMimeDecodeW, but it won't change its behaviour regarding the 
encoded subject. So I guess I've to decode it separately from the mail, as soon 
as I detect 'iso-8859-1' in the subject line.

I have another question and I hope someone can help me. I couldn't find useful 
information yet.

I have to retrieve mails via POP3 (currently working!) and decode its textual 
part, which is then parsed and written to a file. I can see that some multipart 
messages have a text/plain part, but some others just have several 
multipart/alternative parts. So I firstly have to find which part to decode and 
secondly to find how to write just that part to a memory stream and/or file.

A (simple) sample which addresses multipart messages would be fine ;)

Thanks,
Michael

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Behalf Of Arno Garrels
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:16 AM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6

Kochendoerfer, Michael wrote:
> Arno,
>
> please ignore my last mail - V7 installed without problems. Thanks
> for the hint!!
>
> One of the reasons for my update was a problem with the TMimeDecode
> component, but I guess V7 doesn't behave different here. I have a
> POP3 mail which has a subject like this:
>
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?FW:_Newsletter_-_Gr=FCn_ist_f=FCr_Sie!?=
>
> And I need to get a plain text subject from that. I thought that in
> OnMessageEnd the .Subject is changed to plain text, but it is not. So
> I need to find a reliable way to detect and convert such subjects
> into plain text. And I'm quite sure that V7 has an option for it. I
> just can't find it ;)

Have a look at the new TMimeDecodeW, it decodes those inline encoded
strings to WideString/UnicodeString.
Display with non-Unicode compilers will only work reliable if the
charset matches system's default ansi charset.
"iso-8859-1" will display fine with windows-1252 except for the EURO
sign. Or use the TNT-Unicode components mentioned in OverbyteIcsMimeDemo.

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>
> Michael
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:41 AM
> To: ICS support mailing
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6
>
> Kochendoerfer, Michael wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently downloaded ICS V6 package from overbyte.be and now I'm
>> trying to install it according to the readme file. However, I can't
>> compile it because the compiler gives an error about an unknown
>> _IntToStr (note the underscore) in OverbyteIcsHttpSrv.
>>
>> I'm on D7. What did I miss?
>
> This is fixed in latest snapshot downloadable at:
> http://wiki.overbyte.be/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_to_get_ICS
>
> or simply exchange "_IntToStr" by "IntToStr".
>
> Why don't you use ICS-V7?
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>> Michael
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Re: [twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6

2009-11-17 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Arno,

please ignore my last mail - V7 installed without problems. Thanks for the 
hint!!

One of the reasons for my update was a problem with the TMimeDecode component, 
but I guess V7 doesn't behave different here. I have a POP3 mail which has a 
subject like this:

=?iso-8859-1?Q?FW:_Newsletter_-_Gr=FCn_ist_f=FCr_Sie!?=

And I need to get a plain text subject from that. I thought that in 
OnMessageEnd the .Subject is changed to plain text, but it is not. So I need to 
find a reliable way to detect and convert such subjects into plain text. And 
I'm quite sure that V7 has an option for it. I just can't find it ;)

Michael

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Behalf Of Arno Garrels
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:41 AM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6

Kochendoerfer, Michael wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently downloaded ICS V6 package from overbyte.be and now I'm
> trying to install it according to the readme file. However, I can't
> compile it because the compiler gives an error about an unknown
> _IntToStr (note the underscore) in OverbyteIcsHttpSrv.
>
> I'm on D7. What did I miss?

This is fixed in latest snapshot downloadable at:
http://wiki.overbyte.be/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_to_get_ICS

or simply exchange "_IntToStr" by "IntToStr".

Why don't you use ICS-V7?

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Re: [twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6

2009-11-17 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Arno,

can I use V7 as a replacement (better, of course!) for my previous version, 
which (I think) was V5?

Michael

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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6

Kochendoerfer, Michael wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently downloaded ICS V6 package from overbyte.be and now I'm
> trying to install it according to the readme file. However, I can't
> compile it because the compiler gives an error about an unknown
> _IntToStr (note the underscore) in OverbyteIcsHttpSrv.
>
> I'm on D7. What did I miss?

This is fixed in latest snapshot downloadable at:
http://wiki.overbyte.be/wiki/index.php/FAQ#How_to_get_ICS

or simply exchange "_IntToStr" by "IntToStr".

Why don't you use ICS-V7?

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> Michael
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[twsocket] Can't compile ICS V6

2009-11-17 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Hi,

I recently downloaded ICS V6 package from overbyte.be and now I'm trying to 
install it according to the readme file. However, I can't compile it because 
the compiler gives an error about an unknown _IntToStr (note the underscore) in 
OverbyteIcsHttpSrv.

I'm on D7. What did I miss?

TIA,
Michael


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Re: [twsocket] Simple POP3 application

2009-11-16 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
I'd like to stay with ICS, as Indy gave me too many problems in the past...

However - I found an old sample ('a mini pop3cli' - thanks to Wilfried :)), but 
this won't work. It enters state STAT, but when entering RETR, it gives an POP3 
error 500 (RqType is 7), and I don't know where it comes from...

In general, this little program is exactly doing what I'd like to do, and it's 
expandable.

Michael

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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [twsocket] Simple POP3 application

I presume Francois will get angry when he reads your suggestion of a
competitor on ICS list.

SZ

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> You can use the indy POP3 component. I've used it in Delphi 7 and it's
> fairly simple.
>
> -Alex Greenspan
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Kochendoerfer, Michael  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm curious if there's a very simple way to retrieve mails from a POP3
> > account for writing them out to files. The MailRcv1 demo is too much for
> > this (to handle and to understand), so I'm just looking for a very simple
> > example on how to do it.
> >
> > Should be not much more than open/list
> > (?)/retrieve-to-stream-or-file/close.
> >
> > We're on D7 and ICS V6 (?).
> >
> > TIA,
> > Michael
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[twsocket] Simple POP3 application

2009-11-16 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Hi,

I'm curious if there's a very simple way to retrieve mails from a POP3 account 
for writing them out to files. The MailRcv1 demo is too much for this (to 
handle and to understand), so I'm just looking for a very simple example on how 
to do it.

Should be not much more than open/list (?)/retrieve-to-stream-or-file/close.

We're on D7 and ICS V6 (?).

TIA,
Michael


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Re: [twsocket] OnSessionClosed

2007-02-14 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Markus,

why not implementing some kind of NOOP over the protocol? Means that your 
client's sending some special small data packets over the line which the server 
simply drops, only if transfer is idle and possibly timer based?

Michael

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> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> strange problem here:
> 
> - two PCs connected via normal LAN
> - one runs my server app (simple TWSocket since the server 
> only has to handle one connection)
> - the other one runs my client app (twsocket as well)
> - the connection is a TCP connection
> 
> Normal communication is fine. I've assigned OnSessionClosed 
> on both server and client side.
> If I plug out the cable the server side detects the 
> OnSessionClosed, but not the client side!
> 
> This also happens with the included demo programs Client5 and 
> TCPSvr. The server will recognize 
> the lost connection but not the client. Since I'd like to 
> reestablish that connection if there 
> hasn't been a request of my client program to close the 
> connection (I've implemented something 
> for that in my protocol) I need to know on the client side 
> when the connection is lost!
> 
> What's wrong here?
> 
> Greetings
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Re: [twsocket] Problem with ftp and (legacy) ICS

2007-01-31 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Francois,

I was not aware that the current V5 would work with Delphi versions less than 
7. Got it, worked ;)
Thanks a lot.

Michael

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> 
> 
> > I tried to do it with an older version of ICS which supports D5.
> 
> Current ICS-V5 support Delphi 5. Use that version, not an old 
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> now from http://www.overbyte.be.
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> ICS-V6, still in beta, will not support D5 anymore.
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> Subject: [twsocket] Problem with ftp and (legacy) ICS
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > since I've to write a small ftp transfer program to 
> transfer just single 
> > files in D5, I tried to do it with an older version of ICS 
> which supports 
> > D5. Uploading files to a ftp server is fine but not 
> downloading. Status 
> > tells me that the file transfer is complete (226 Transfer 
> complete), but 
> > the file is nowhere on the local harddisk.
> >
> > This is my very simple procedure:
> >
> >  try
> >with ftpCli do begin
> >  HostName  := '172.18.10.40';
> >  UserName  := 'anonymous';
> >  Password  := 'gimmedafile';
> >  LocalFileName := 'd:\410.jpg';
> >  HostDirName   := '/';
> >  HostFileName  := '410.jpg';
> >
> >  Receive;
> >  Quit;
> >end;
> >  except
> >on E: Exception do meLog.Lines.Add('*** ' + E.ClassName + ': ' + 
> > E.Message);
> >  end;
> >
> > What am I doing wrong? Have I to save the file for myself 
> after it has 
> > been transferred? Or is the above syntax wrong for dirs and files? 
> > However, uploading works the same way except for the 
> Receive() - upload 
> > calls Transfer() instead.
> >
> > TIA
> > Michael
> >
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[twsocket] Problem with ftp and (legacy) ICS

2007-01-30 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Hi,

since I've to write a small ftp transfer program to transfer just single files 
in D5, I tried to do it with an older version of ICS which supports D5. 
Uploading files to a ftp server is fine but not downloading. Status tells me 
that the file transfer is complete (226 Transfer complete), but the file is 
nowhere on the local harddisk.

This is my very simple procedure:

  try
with ftpCli do begin
  HostName  := '172.18.10.40';
  UserName  := 'anonymous';
  Password  := 'gimmedafile';
  LocalFileName := 'd:\410.jpg';
  HostDirName   := '/';
  HostFileName  := '410.jpg';

  Receive;
  Quit;
end;
  except
on E: Exception do meLog.Lines.Add('*** ' + E.ClassName + ': ' + E.Message);
  end;

What am I doing wrong? Have I to save the file for myself after it has been 
transferred? Or is the above syntax wrong for dirs and files? However, 
uploading works the same way except for the Receive() - upload calls Transfer() 
instead.

TIA
Michael

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Re: [twsocket] FTP high-level component

2007-01-24 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Thanks very much Francois... I didn't remember this one ;)

Michael

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> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:51 PM
> To: ICS support mailing
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] FTP high-level component
> 
> 
> > Also not a problem if it costs some money (however, I 
> contributed to the
> > SSL project but Francois didn't still list me due to a lack of time
> 
> You don't need to be on the advertized list. You have your 
> usercode/password
> for ICS-SSL. TMagFTP component is just in the file list below 
> the ICS-SSL
> files. You can download it since you've got your login !
> 
> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit 
> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html
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Re: [twsocket] FTP high-level component

2007-01-24 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Angus,

I hope I'm not OT, but... your web site says:

 "Compatible with Delphi 5/6/7/2005/2006, tested with Windows 98, NT4, Windows 
2000, XP and 2003. Files larger than 2 gigs needs Delphi 6 or later."

Is this still true? I guess it would help a few other users here to know that 
there are such components available (for not being totally OT :))

Michael


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:21 PM
> To: twsocket@elists.org
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] FTP high-level component
> 
> 
> > Also not a problem if it costs some money (however, I contributed 
> > to the SSL project but Francois didn't still list me due to a lack 
> > of time) - if you like, you can tell me in a pm what you'd like to 
> > get for the components for recompiling (= with sources included).
> 
> Pricing and order form is on my web site.  But I'm sure 
> Francois can fix
> up a logon easily. 
>  
> > Possibly a problem could be that it should be included in a D5 
> > project which has to use legacy ICS sources. No chance at this time 
> > to advance to a higher Delphi version. Could this be problematic?
> 
> I don't support 'legacy' ICS source, only the latest V5 and V6 betas
> which have many improvements needed for proper FTP support.  If you
> really need to support long obsoleted ICS code, you'll need 
> to edit the
> TMagFtp source to remove functions needing newer versions.  
> Likewise I've
> stopped backward testing with eight year old compilers, you 
> can only go
> back so far, but it probably still works. 
> 
> Angus
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Re: [twsocket] FTP high-level component

2007-01-24 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Angus,

not a problem if one has to login (and such) previously. It's just important 
that the main transfer process is encapsulated into a few lines of code rather 
than a complex handling scheme.

Also not a problem if it costs some money (however, I contributed to the SSL 
project but Francois didn't still list me due to a lack of time) - if you like, 
you can tell me in a pm what you'd like to get for the components for 
recompiling (= with sources included).

Possibly a problem could be that it should be included in a D5 project which 
has to use legacy ICS sources. No chance at this time to advance to a higher 
Delphi version. Could this be problematic?

Michael

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:23 PM
> To: twsocket@elists.org
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] FTP high-level component
> 
> 
> > I'm playing around with the TFtpXXX components, and for not to 
> > invent the wheel again, I'm looking for some kind of high-level 
> > component based on ICS. 
> 
> TMagFTP which is at:
> 
> http://www.magsys.co.uk/delphi/magxfer.asp
> 
> Note this is not free source code, a lot of effort went into it's
> development and testing.  DCUs are free, but you either have 
> to license
> the source or support ICS-SSL development financially from 
> where you can
> also download the source.
> 
> > Like this (samples):
> > CopyFileToFTP(LocalFile, FTPServer);
> 
> It's never that simple, FTP servers need logons that can 
> fail, they have
> multiple directories, etc, but one of our functions is almost that
> simple:
> 
> function FtpDownOneFile (const FdirSrc, Fnamesrc, Fnametar: string ;
> Replopt: TFileCopyRepl) : TTaskResult ;
> 
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[twsocket] FTP high-level component

2007-01-24 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Hi there,

I'm playing around with the TFtpXXX components, and for not to invent the wheel 
again, I'm looking for some kind of high-level component based on ICS. 

What I need to do is to replace some file copy operations within an application 
by FTP sending/receiving operations. What I'm dreaming of is a sending/copying 
component which accepts file name(s) and a target ftp server instead of a file 
path. The same applies for the opposite way, retrieving files from a ftp server.

Like this (samples):

CopyFileToFTP(LocalFile, FTPServer);
CopyFileFromFTP(FTPServer, LocalFile);

TIA for all hints.

Michael


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Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP

2007-01-17 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Regarding my last mail ('SMTP component not ready' exception), I learnt that 
the problem doesn't occur if I put the whole 'case RqType of: .. end;' into a 
try..except and simply ignore the exception. 

But I'm not sure if this is the correct way to handle it. I fear to miss some 
real exceptions which I'm also suppressing this way, and I don't like much 
quiet exceptions for complex operations.

How do you all handle such a situation?

Michael

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Kochendoerfer, Michael
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:29 PM
> To: ICS support mailing
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP
> 
> 
> Arno,
> 
> now I implemented it all the way you suggested. I have a 
> message handler procedure, which decides whether a record 
> results in a mail or in a print job. It then calls either 
> smtpCli.Connect() or DoPrint() (own form method) accordingly.
> 
> When it is a mail job and it has been processed, the 
> OnSessionClosed posts the handler message again. When it's a 
> print job, the very last line of DoPrint() posts the handler message.
> 
> I'm starting the whole processing by an initial PostMessage() 
> to this handler procedure and write useful info into a log 
> memo and a file. And as you wrote earlier, there's another 
> RequestDone (smtpQuit) after a OnSessionClosed call. But even 
> if I don't have any direct calls to the message pump, my own 
> handler message is processed before the smtpQuit state occurs 
> in OnRequestDone, so the smtpCli.Connect() may take place 
> _before_ OnRequestDone has finished processing the previous 
> mail. This sometimes results in a SMTP component not ready exception.
> 
> How can I prevent this situation from occuring? AFAIR, I 
> shouldn't have a loop somewhere testing for the component 
> state, so I need another mechanism to prevent it.
> 
> All other things are fine now, thanks a lot ;)
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Arno Garrels
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:55 AM
> > To: ICS support mailing
> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP
> > 
> > 
> > Kochendoerfer, Michael wrote:
> > > Arno,
> > > 
> > > I think you addressed the problem correctly ;)  All subsequent
> > > Connect() calls (except the first one) are located within the
> > > OnRequestDone event procedure, in case of 
> RqType=smtpQuit. I now see
> > > this must be wrong.   
> > > 
> > > For a safe reconnect, should the message below be posted from
> > > OnRequestDone or from OnSessionClose? I guess it's the 
> > latter because
> > > it would be triggered after RqType=smtpQuit, right? Does calling
> > > Abort() also call OnSessionClose?   
> > 
> > SessionClose is the right place to post the message and yes 
> Abort also
> > triggers OnSessionClose. OnSessionClose fires when the connection is
> > closed no matter who closed it, and that may occur at *ANY TIME*. 
> > Note that if a request is still pending OnRequestDone will be
> > triggered afterwards as well. Calling Abort while the component is
> > still waiting for a response or while it's sending data will cause
> > OnRequestDone being triggered with an error code > 0, this was 
> > AFAIR (10053) Software caused connection abort.
> > 
> > ---
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> > http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
> > 
> >  
> > > Michael
> > > 
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Behalf Of Arno Garrels
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:24 AM
> > >> To: ICS support mailing
> > >> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> In order to reconnect safely you need to get out of your loop
> > >> after the session has been closed AND after OnRequestDone
> > >> has been triggered RqType smtpQuit as well. You must assign event
> > >> OnSessionClose to always get notified about connection close,
> > >> this can happen before as well as after OnRequestDone triggered
> > >> RqType smtpQuit, I'm not sure if you do something like that.
> > >> 
> > >> In order to get out of your loop just post a custom message,
> > >> something

Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP

2007-01-17 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Arno,

now I implemented it all the way you suggested. I have a message handler 
procedure, which decides whether a record results in a mail or in a print job. 
It then calls either smtpCli.Connect() or DoPrint() (own form method) 
accordingly.

When it is a mail job and it has been processed, the OnSessionClosed posts the 
handler message again. When it's a print job, the very last line of DoPrint() 
posts the handler message.

I'm starting the whole processing by an initial PostMessage() to this handler 
procedure and write useful info into a log memo and a file. And as you wrote 
earlier, there's another RequestDone (smtpQuit) after a OnSessionClosed call. 
But even if I don't have any direct calls to the message pump, my own handler 
message is processed before the smtpQuit state occurs in OnRequestDone, so the 
smtpCli.Connect() may take place _before_ OnRequestDone has finished processing 
the previous mail. This sometimes results in a SMTP component not ready 
exception.

How can I prevent this situation from occuring? AFAIR, I shouldn't have a loop 
somewhere testing for the component state, so I need another mechanism to 
prevent it.

All other things are fine now, thanks a lot ;)

Michael


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Arno Garrels
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:55 AM
> To: ICS support mailing
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP
> 
> 
> Kochendoerfer, Michael wrote:
> > Arno,
> > 
> > I think you addressed the problem correctly ;)  All subsequent
> > Connect() calls (except the first one) are located within the
> > OnRequestDone event procedure, in case of RqType=smtpQuit. I now see
> > this must be wrong.   
> > 
> > For a safe reconnect, should the message below be posted from
> > OnRequestDone or from OnSessionClose? I guess it's the 
> latter because
> > it would be triggered after RqType=smtpQuit, right? Does calling
> > Abort() also call OnSessionClose?   
> 
> SessionClose is the right place to post the message and yes Abort also
> triggers OnSessionClose. OnSessionClose fires when the connection is
> closed no matter who closed it, and that may occur at *ANY TIME*. 
> Note that if a request is still pending OnRequestDone will be
> triggered afterwards as well. Calling Abort while the component is
> still waiting for a response or while it's sending data will cause
> OnRequestDone being triggered with an error code > 0, this was 
> AFAIR (10053) Software caused connection abort.
> 
> ---
> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
> 
>  
> > Michael
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Behalf Of Arno Garrels
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:24 AM
> >> To: ICS support mailing
> >> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In order to reconnect safely you need to get out of your loop
> >> after the session has been closed AND after OnRequestDone
> >> has been triggered RqType smtpQuit as well. You must assign event
> >> OnSessionClose to always get notified about connection close,
> >> this can happen before as well as after OnRequestDone triggered
> >> RqType smtpQuit, I'm not sure if you do something like that.
> >> 
> >> In order to get out of your loop just post a custom message,
> >> something like:
> >> 
> >> PostMessage(Form1.Handle, WM_MAILSENT, Integer(Something),
> >> Integer(Something));
> >> 
> >> The message handler is declared like:
> >> 
> >> const
> >>   WM_MAILSENT = WM_USER + 1;
> >> ..
> >> protected
> >>   procedure WmMailSent(var Msg: TMessage); message WM_MAILSENT;
> >> ..
> >> 
> >> procedure TForm1.WmMailSent(var Msg: TMessage);
> >> begin
> >>   Display(IntToStr(Msg.WParam) + ' ' + IntToStr(Msg.LParam);
> >>   ..
> >>   In the message handler you can connect safely again.
> >>   SmtpCli.Connect;
> >> end;
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ---
> >> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Michael Kochendoerfer wrote:
> >>> Arno and all,
> >>> 
> >>> I realized and appreciated your hint to perform it all 
> event-driven
> >>> and I tried to accomplish it the way you suggested. 
> However, I have
> >>> some

Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP

2007-01-17 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
blocked. Instead let your derived component do 
> the work in
> >> the background. In order to get notified when the job has finished
> >> add a custom event that fires when the work is done, or may be add
> >> another custom event that notifies the application when a single
> >> message has been sent/failed. In other words, control the
> >> application completely thru events while executing the mailing. So
> >> in the ButtonClick handler there the call to start the mailing
> >> should be the very last line. 
> >> 
> >> ---
> >> Arno Garrels [TeamICS]
> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Kochendoerfer, Michael wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> You all are giving excellent information in this mailing list,
> >>> thanks a lot!
> >>> 
> >>> I guess my problem is - as you describe - that the component is
> >>> still active, even if smtpQuit has been reached within
> >>> OnRequestDone. I don't currently check if it's still 
> connected, but
> >>> I will change it. Errors will be checked and force to abort the
> >>> entire mail and write some log entries.
> >>> 
> >>> As Arno said earlier, I'd like to have async components because of
> >>> their benefits. But in fact, for me it is a sync call, at 
> least for
> >>> each single mail. IOW, I've to wait until each particular mail has
> >>> been finished before I'm advancing to the next one. So 
> I'm starting
> >>> with Connect(), let the OnRequestDone do the background stuff and
> >>> set a flag if either aborted or quit. Now I know I've to wait also
> >>> for not Connected. But what's the correct method to wait for
> >>> completion? Currently, I have a loop after calling Connect()
> >>> looking like this: 
> >>> 
> >>> while not FlagDone do begin
> >>>  //Application.ProcessMessages;  // Don't know whether or 
> not to use
> >>> the message pump here   Sleep(50);
> >>> end;
> >>> 
> >>> Any thoughts?
> >>> 
> >>> TIA,
> >>> Michael
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> -Original Message-
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Behalf Of DZ-Jay
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:57 AM
> >>>> To: ICS support mailing
> >>>> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Jan 16, 2007, at 02:49, Arno Garrels wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> When the response to the Quit command is received the connection
> >>>>> (may) still be alive. So watch both, whether Quit response has
> >>>>> been received as well as the SessionClose event. Call 
> connect only
> >>>>> after the session has been closed.
> >>>>> Don't start a loop directly from an event handler but post a
> >>>>> custom message to some Window, in it's message handler start the
> >>>>> next loop. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> You could, in fact, re-use the connection if the next message
> >>>> is to be
> >>>> sent through the same server.  All you have to do is, after the
> >>>> DATA command is completed and the server acknowledges receipt,
> >>>> check SmtpCli.Connected, if you are still connected then 
> reset your
> >>>> state-machine to start the cycle fromthe MAIL FROM command.  Some
> >>>> servers required a "reset" (RSET) command be sent to reset state,
> >>>> and it doesn't hurt to send it anyway.  The important thing is to
> >>>> check the
> >>>> connection, because something may have happened -- and 
> indeed, some
> >>>> servers have anti-spamming filters that will kick you out after
> >>>> receiving DATA that they determine is spam, and some won't
> >>>> allow you to
> >>>> re-send after one message.  So the algorithm would be something
> >>>> like: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 1. Connect
> >>>> 2. HELO
> >>>> 3. MAIL FROM
> >>>> 4. RCP

Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP

2007-01-16 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
You all are giving excellent information in this mailing list, thanks a lot!

I guess my problem is - as you describe - that the component is still active, 
even if smtpQuit has been reached within OnRequestDone. I don't currently check 
if it's still connected, but I will change it. Errors will be checked and force 
to abort the entire mail and write some log entries. 

As Arno said earlier, I'd like to have async components because of their 
benefits. But in fact, for me it is a sync call, at least for each single mail. 
IOW, I've to wait until each particular mail has been finished before I'm 
advancing to the next one. So I'm starting with Connect(), let the 
OnRequestDone do the background stuff and set a flag if either aborted or quit. 
Now I know I've to wait also for not Connected. But what's the correct method 
to wait for completion? Currently, I have a loop after calling Connect() 
looking like this:

while not FlagDone do begin
  //Application.ProcessMessages;  // Don't know whether or not to use the 
message pump here
  Sleep(50);
end;

Any thoughts?

TIA,
Michael


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of DZ-Jay
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:57 AM
> To: ICS support mailing
> Subject: Re: [twsocket] Still problems while sending SMTP
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 16, 2007, at 02:49, Arno Garrels wrote:
> 
> > When the response to the Quit command is received the connection
> > (may) still be alive. So watch both, whether Quit response has been
> > received as well as the SessionClose event. Call connect only
> > after the session has been closed.
> > Don't start a loop directly from an event handler but post a custom
> > message to some Window, in it's message handler start the next loop.
> 
> You could, in fact, re-use the connection if the next message 
> is to be 
> sent through the same server.  All you have to do is, after the DATA 
> command is completed and the server acknowledges receipt, check 
> SmtpCli.Connected, if you are still connected then reset your 
> state-machine to start the cycle fromthe MAIL FROM command.  Some 
> servers required a "reset" (RSET) command be sent to reset state, and 
> it doesn't hurt to send it anyway.  The important thing is to 
> check the 
> connection, because something may have happened -- and indeed, some 
> servers have anti-spamming filters that will kick you out after 
> receiving DATA that they determine is spam, and some won't 
> allow you to 
> re-send after one message.  So the algorithm would be something like:
> 
> 1. Connect
> 2. HELO
> 3. MAIL FROM
> 4. RCPT TO
> 5. DATA
> 6. If connected:
>   6.a (yes) RSET then back to 3
> 7. QUIT
> 8. back to 1
> 
> Of course, you should check for errors after each step (in 
> OnRequestDone, before changing states).  Keep in mind that 
> some errors 
> are recoverable (transient: 400+), some errors are not 
> (non-transient: 
> 500+), and some are somewhere in between (like RCPT warnings, etc).  
> Recoverable errors allow you to try again, or require a RSET 
> and start 
> from step 3, while non-transient errors require closing the 
> connection 
> and starting from scratch.  If you are sending general messages to 
> strange servers "in the wild" it gets pretty complicated, specially 
> when you factor in all the non-RFC-compliant servers; but if your 
> application is of limited purpose, sending using the same server all 
> the time, the errors and issues that may occur are predictable and 
> substantially less.
> 
> Building this logic in a simple state-machine using 
> OnRequestDone makes 
> it fairly easy to make your application powerful and efficient -- the 
> reason we always push for the use of async methods.
> 
>   dZ.
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[twsocket] TFtpClient and directory listing

2005-11-18 Thread Kochendoerfer, Michael
Hi all,

what is the correct implementation of retrieving a directory when using 
ftp...Async functions? My program structure is similar to the sample files 
(case RqType of... ftpOpenAsync: FtpClient.User; ... end;), so it wouldn't be 
hard for me to understand. What I've found is the option to use DirAsync, but 
according to the sources, it will retrieve the dir list to a file.

However, does anyone have a small sample of code to retrieve a directory, and - 
for example - place the contents into a listbox?

TIA,
Michael
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