Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues

2011-11-09 Thread Lloyd Cottrell
It may not run on win7. Use the xp mode and run it in there. Works fine in 
there.

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 17:57, iggch...@comcast.net wrote:

 
 
 Hi All, 
 
 
 
 Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should 
 look into a better way.  However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that 
 I have for the time being. 
 
 
 
 That being said... 
 
 
 Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my 
 Wintegrate application firing up? 
 
 I just began experiencing the problem l ast night.  
 
 I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself.  
 
 I can see it in task manager.   
 
  Image NameUser NameCPUMemory Description 
 
   MSOSYNC.EXE  THOMPSC 00  3364K   Microsoft Office 
 Document Cache 
 
  w integ.exeTHOMPSC 00
 
  wowexec.exe   THOMPSC 00 
 
 
 
 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE.  Maybe that's 
 not the case but it looks that way in task manager. 
 
 
 
 After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme 
 or reason. 
 
 My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host.  
 However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever.  
 
 
 
 Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 
 
 
 
 Thanks 
 
 
 
 Scott
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Re: [U2] BCI

2011-11-09 Thread Cooper, Rudy
Symeon,

The data type is 'date'.  I have not tried any other data type.  Maybe I should 
change the sql data type to 'datetime'?

Rudy

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1st problem -  - the  data type - is a date or datetime - have you tried the 
other - or even a timespan.

 



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Subject: [U2] BCI

Need some help on using a bci function with sql server.

We are running UV 10.3.3 on windows 2003 server sp2.

We've been using bci to run sprocs in sql server.

A couple of things came up that we're having problems with which we have never 
used before and thought this list might be of help to us.
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Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues

2011-11-09 Thread iggchamp


Thanks for the help everyone.   I found a rundll.exe in task manager that was 
running some program/trojan.  I ran malware bytes and it fixed everything.   
Not sure how I got the application... 



Anyway, thanks a bunch for the suggestions! 



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From: Martin Braid mbr...@epicor.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 2:56:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues 

VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin 

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Scott 
Richardson 
Sent: 09 November 2011 02:34 
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org 
Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues 

On 11/8/2011 9:01 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: 
 Thanks Scott.  I'll try turning off UAC and see if that does the 
trick. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Richardsoncheetah...@comcast.net 
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:40:52 PM 
 Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues 
 
 On 11/8/2011 8:19 PM, Jeff Butera wrote: 
 Slight tangent that may shed light.  Back when Datatel was based on 
 wIntegrate, we would occasionally see this behavior for some machines 
 deployed on campus.  In short, another process (often TSR) would 
 somehow block wIntegrate.  In some cases it was MS Office Taskbar, in 
 others it was been antivirus.  As you point out, once the offending 
 program was terminated, wIntegrate fired up like nothing was wrong. 
 
 
 On 11/08/2011 07:57 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: 
 Hi All, 
 
 
 
 Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version 
 and should look into a better way.  However, I'm stuck using the 
 Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. 
 
 
 
 That being said... 
 
 
 Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my 
 Wintegrate application firing up? 
 
 I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. 
 I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. 
 I can see it in task manager. 
            Image Name        User Name    CPU    Memory 
Description 
 
             MSOSYNC.EXE      THOMPSC     00      3364K 
Microsoft 
 Office Document Cache 
 
                w integ.exe    THOMPSC     00 
                wowexec.exe   THOMPSC     00 
 
 
 
 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE.   
 Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. 
 
 
 
 After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear 
without 
 rhyme or reason. 
 
 My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my 
 host.  However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. 
 
 
 Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 
 
 
 
 Thanks 
 
 
 
 Scott 
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Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues

2011-11-09 Thread Buss, Troy (Logitek Systems)
Scott,

wIntegrate 3.0.03 runs on windows 7 32 bit, but I don't believe it runs on 64 
bit.  On windows 7, when I run my old wInteg 3, it shows as a child process of 
NTVDM and parallel with WOWEXEC.  I'm not running it with any UAC, admin or 
other custom settings.

We had the same thing happen where it would not appear for a long time, and we 
never traced the cause.  Perhaps it was the licensing routine, I'm not sure, 
but it was quite annoying when it happened.

We've since updated to 6.2 so that we could use 64bit workstations. 

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[U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread George Gallen
I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external 
applications to analyze some of the data.

My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own 
table, keyed to the master table (1:n)
But this gets a little tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - and 
creates really bulky SQL statements with all the joins.

What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships?
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues... [AD]

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Houben
[AD]Hi George,

Our 2SQL product allows you to map graphically, then automatically creates all 
the tables for multivalues and subvalues.

This youtube video shows how we mapped the table:
http://youtu.be/-blc5rE1_CM

and this one shows how we used the mapped view to create SQL Server tables (or 
Oracle, DB2, Progress, MySQL...)
http://youtu.be/aI9TcMfCRDg


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To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external 
applications to analyze some of the data.

My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own 
table, keyed to the master table (1:n) But this gets a little tedious if you 
have a bunch of multivalued fields - and creates really bulky SQL statements 
with all the joins.

What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships?
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Romanow
It might be worth doing some of this work with an ORM (Object Relation
Mapper).  Almost all higher level languages have them.  Once you get
things configured, the messiness of the joins is hidden behind
syntactic sugar.

Here is a comparison of a lot of them from wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object-relational_mapping_software

SQLAlchemy is a market leader for python.  If you are a microsoft
shop, I understand LINQ us really nice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query#LINQ_to_SQL

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
 I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external 
 applications to analyze some of the data.

 My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own 
 table, keyed to the master table (1:n)
 But this gets a little tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - 
 and creates really bulky SQL statements with all the joins.

 What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships?
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[U2] Extracting XML attributes

2011-11-09 Thread Bobby Worley
Does anyone have an example of an XPath definition to extract an
attribute from an XML element?  The universe documentation for 10.3 and
11.1 doesn't cover this.   

I am trying to get the value of ProductId from the following XML
example:

pr:Feed xmlns:pr=urn:someurl
  Data
Products
  Product ProductId=ABC
  ...
  /Product
  Product ProductId=123
  ...
  /Product
  Product ProductId=XYZ
  ...
  /Product
   /Products
  /Data
/pr

Using the this extraction file:

U2XML_extraction xmlns:USxml=http://www.rocketU2.com/U2-xml; 
   file_extraction start=/Data dictionary=XMLTESTFILE null=EMPTY
/
   field_extraction field=@ID path=Products/Product/@ProductId ,/
/U2XML_extraction

I get the following error:

LIST XMLDATA EDGENET_XML XML/test.ext
Open XML data file failed.
XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file
'/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext', line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an
attribute name

Open XML data file failed.
XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file
'/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext', line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an
attribute name

Unable to open XMLDATA:EDGENET_XML,XML/test.ext file.

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Re: [U2] Extracting XML attributes

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Houben
It would look like this:

/*/Data/Products/Product/@ProductId

Note that the document element has a namespace attached so if you assigned the 
namespace-uri urn_someurl to the prefix pr you could make that:

/pr:Feed/Data/Products/Product/@ProductId

The '@' specifies an attribute as opposed to an element.

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To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] Extracting XML attributes

Does anyone have an example of an XPath definition to extract an attribute from 
an XML element?  The universe documentation for 10.3 and
11.1 doesn't cover this.

I am trying to get the value of ProductId from the following XML
example:

pr:Feed xmlns:pr=urn:someurl
  Data
Products
  Product ProductId=ABC
  ...
  /Product
  Product ProductId=123
  ...
  /Product
  Product ProductId=XYZ
  ...
  /Product
   /Products
  /Data
/pr

Using the this extraction file:

U2XML_extraction xmlns:USxml=http://www.rocketU2.com/U2-xml; 
   file_extraction start=/Data dictionary=XMLTESTFILE null=EMPTY
/
   field_extraction field=@ID path=Products/Product/@ProductId ,/ 
/U2XML_extraction

I get the following error:

LIST XMLDATA EDGENET_XML XML/test.ext
Open XML data file failed.
XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file '/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext', 
line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an attribute name

Open XML data file failed.
XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file '/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext', 
line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an attribute name

Unable to open XMLDATA:EDGENET_XML,XML/test.ext file.

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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread George Gallen
I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to handle 
the 1:n other than the
 Sidebar tables joined to the master table.

Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't want 
to involve any other apps
  The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something) 

Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued 
fields, and it seemed a little
Overkill to have to create 21 tables to contain the data in a form MySQL can 
handle. I guess that what
Happens when you've been raised on multivalue database structure, and are 
forced to work with one that
Does not handle it natively!

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:41 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

It might be worth doing some of this work with an ORM (Object Relation
Mapper).  Almost all higher level languages have them.  Once you get
things configured, the messiness of the joins is hidden behind
syntactic sugar.

Here is a comparison of a lot of them from wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object-relational_mapping_software

SQLAlchemy is a market leader for python.  If you are a microsoft
shop, I understand LINQ us really nice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query#LINQ_to_SQL

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
 I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external 
 applications to analyze some of the data.

 My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own 
 table, keyed to the master table (1:n)
 But this gets a little tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - 
 and creates really bulky SQL statements with all the joins.

 What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships?
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread Wjhonson

Welcome to Hell!




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Sent: Wed, Nov 9, 2011 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...


I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to handle 
he 1:n other than the
Sidebar tables joined to the master table.
Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't want 
o involve any other apps
 The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something) 
Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued 
fields, 
nd it seemed a little
verkill to have to create 21 tables to contain the data in a form MySQL can 
andle. I guess that what
appens when you've been raised on multivalue database structure, and are forced 
o work with one that
oes not handle it natively!
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rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
n Behalf Of Steve Romanow
ent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:41 PM
o: U2 Users List
ubject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
It might be worth doing some of this work with an ORM (Object Relation
apper).  Almost all higher level languages have them.  Once you get
hings configured, the messiness of the joins is hidden behind
yntactic sugar.
Here is a comparison of a lot of them from wikipedia.
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object-relational_mapping_software
SQLAlchemy is a market leader for python.  If you are a microsoft
hop, I understand LINQ us really nice.
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query#LINQ_to_SQL
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
 I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external 
pplications to analyze some of the data.

 My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own 
able, keyed to the master table (1:n)
 But this gets a little tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - and 
reates really bulky SQL statements with all the joins.

 What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships?
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Houben
Whenever the fields are related (an association) the related fields can all 
make a single table.  The only other thing you can do is to explode the 
single values to match the multivalues, but with different multivalue counts, 
you wind up with lots of null values.  To make it really useful, I'm not aware 
of any other simple options.  Relational databases really work best with 
normalized data...

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: November-09-11 10:57 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to handle 
the 1:n other than the  Sidebar tables joined to the master table.

Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't want 
to involve any other apps
  The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something)

Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued 
fields, and it seemed a little Overkill to have to create 21 tables to contain 
the data in a form MySQL can handle. I guess that what Happens when you've been 
raised on multivalue database structure, and are forced to work with one that 
Does not handle it natively!

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:41 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

It might be worth doing some of this work with an ORM (Object Relation Mapper). 
 Almost all higher level languages have them.  Once you get things configured, 
the messiness of the joins is hidden behind syntactic sugar.

Here is a comparison of a lot of them from wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object-relational_mapping_software

SQLAlchemy is a market leader for python.  If you are a microsoft shop, I 
understand LINQ us really nice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query#LINQ_to_SQL

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
 I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external 
 applications to analyze some of the data.

 My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create
 it's own table, keyed to the master table (1:n) But this gets a little 
 tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - and creates really bulky 
 SQL statements with all the joins.

 What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships?
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Romanow
Are any of the multivalued fields associated to each other?  You would
have a subtable per association, not per column.

The messiness still exists, it just needs to be managed.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:57 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com wrote:
 I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to handle 
 the 1:n other than the
  Sidebar tables joined to the master table.

 Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't 
 want to involve any other apps
  The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something)

 Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued 
 fields, and it seemed a little
 Overkill to have to create 21 tables to contain the data in a form MySQL can 
 handle. I guess that what
 Happens when you've been raised on multivalue database structure, and are 
 forced to work with one that
 Does not handle it natively!

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:41 PM
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 Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

 It might be worth doing some of this work with an ORM (Object Relation
 Mapper).  Almost all higher level languages have them.  Once you get
 things configured, the messiness of the joins is hidden behind
 syntactic sugar.

 Here is a comparison of a lot of them from wikipedia.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_object-relational_mapping_software

 SQLAlchemy is a market leader for python.  If you are a microsoft
 shop, I understand LINQ us really nice.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_Integrated_Query#LINQ_to_SQL

 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com 
 wrote:
 I'm in the process of creating/updating a MySQL database for external 
 applications to analyze some of the data.

 My initial method of dealing with a multivalued field, is to create it's own 
 table, keyed to the master table (1:n)
 But this gets a little tedious if you have a bunch of multivalued fields - 
 and creates really bulky SQL statements with all the joins.

 What other ways are people using to work with 1:n relationships?
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread George Gallen
For a couple of the fields, I've done this, but for most of them, there are no 
range of counts. Oh well.

The only other method I'll use for some of the other fields is storing them 
with a delimiter (very Pick like)
  And have the application split the data, instead of splitting it in the 
database.

George

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Houben
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Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

Whenever the fields are related (an association) the related fields can all 
make a single table.  The only other thing you can do is to explode the 
single values to match the multivalues, but with different multivalue counts, 
you wind up with lots of null values.  To make it really useful, I'm not aware 
of any other simple options.  Relational databases really work best with 
normalized data...

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: November-09-11 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to handle 
the 1:n other than the  Sidebar tables joined to the master table.

Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't want 
to involve any other apps
  The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something)

Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued 
fields, and it seemed a little Overkill to have to create 21 tables to contain 
the data in a form MySQL can handle. I guess that what Happens when you've been 
raised on multivalue database structure, and are forced to work with one that 
Does not handle it natively!

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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread George Gallen
Thanks for mentioning that. Yes, some are - that will cut down on some of the 
tables.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

Are any of the multivalued fields associated to each other?  You would
have a subtable per association, not per column.

The messiness still exists, it just needs to be managed.

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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread Phil Walker
Why are you using MySql if you are after free you could use Postgresql which I 
believe supported nested tables built in?

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
 Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2011 8:06 a.m.
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
 
 For a couple of the fields, I've done this, but for most of them, there are no
 range of counts. Oh well.
 
 The only other method I'll use for some of the other fields is storing them
 with a delimiter (very Pick like)
   And have the application split the data, instead of splitting it in the
 database.
 
 George
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Houben
 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:03 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
 
 Whenever the fields are related (an association) the related fields can all
 make a single table.  The only other thing you can do is to explode the
 single values to match the multivalues, but with different multivalue
 counts, you wind up with lots of null values.  To make it really useful, I'm
 not aware of any other simple options.  Relational databases really work
 best with normalized data...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
 Sent: November-09-11 10:57 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
 
 I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to
 handle the 1:n other than the  Sidebar tables joined to the master table.
 
 Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't
 want to involve any other apps
   The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something)
 
 Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued
 fields, and it seemed a little Overkill to have to create 21 tables to contain
 the data in a form MySQL can handle. I guess that what Happens when
 you've been raised on multivalue database structure, and are forced to
 work with one that Does not handle it natively!
 
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Butera

 On 11/09/11 14:05, Steve Romanow wrote:

Are any of the multivalued fields associated to each other?  You would
have a subtable per association, not per column.


This is precisely how Datatel reverse-engineered their back end from 
Unidata to MSSQL.


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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread George Gallen
It's what I'm used to using for those small projects...I didn't realize that it 
supported that.

I'll have to look into it...minor learning curve.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

Why are you using MySql if you are after free you could use Postgresql which I 
believe supported nested tables built in?

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
 Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2011 8:06 a.m.
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
 
 For a couple of the fields, I've done this, but for most of them, there are no
 range of counts. Oh well.
 
 The only other method I'll use for some of the other fields is storing them
 with a delimiter (very Pick like)
   And have the application split the data, instead of splitting it in the
 database.
 
 George
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Houben
 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:03 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
 
 Whenever the fields are related (an association) the related fields can all
 make a single table.  The only other thing you can do is to explode the
 single values to match the multivalues, but with different multivalue
 counts, you wind up with lots of null values.  To make it really useful, I'm
 not aware of any other simple options.  Relational databases really work
 best with normalized data...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
 Sent: November-09-11 10:57 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...
 
 I was looking more for ideas on how to setup the database structure to
 handle the 1:n other than the  Sidebar tables joined to the master table.
 
 Right now, the scope of the data being moved off is fairly small, I didn't
 want to involve any other apps
   The querying app would be custom in itself (most likely php or something)
 
 Just this one file we are moving contains about 20 different multivalued
 fields, and it seemed a little Overkill to have to create 21 tables to contain
 the data in a form MySQL can handle. I guess that what Happens when
 you've been raised on multivalue database structure, and are forced to
 work with one that Does not handle it natively!
 
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Re: [U2] Extracting XML attributes

2011-11-09 Thread Chris Austin

I found this article, and thought it may be of use to you:

https://u2devzone.rocketsoftware.com/accelerate/articles/u2-xml/u2-xml

Chris


 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:44:44 -0600
 From: bwor...@coburns.com
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Extracting XML attributes
 
 Does anyone have an example of an XPath definition to extract an
 attribute from an XML element?  The universe documentation for 10.3 and
 11.1 doesn't cover this.   
 
 I am trying to get the value of ProductId from the following XML
 example:
 
 pr:Feed xmlns:pr=urn:someurl
   Data
 Products
   Product ProductId=ABC
   ...
   /Product
   Product ProductId=123
   ...
   /Product
   Product ProductId=XYZ
   ...
   /Product
/Products
   /Data
 /pr
 
 Using the this extraction file:
 
 U2XML_extraction xmlns:USxml=http://www.rocketU2.com/U2-xml; 
file_extraction start=/Data dictionary=XMLTESTFILE null=EMPTY
 /
field_extraction field=@ID path=Products/Product/@ProductId ,/
 /U2XML_extraction
 
 I get the following error:
 
 LIST XMLDATA EDGENET_XML XML/test.ext
 Open XML data file failed.
 XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file
 '/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext', line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an
 attribute name
 
 Open XML data file failed.
 XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file
 '/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext', line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an
 attribute name
 
 Unable to open XMLDATA:EDGENET_XML,XML/test.ext file.
 
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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)


Try MongoDB - It's a good match to a mvdbms and has drivers for most common
programming environments.

djm


phil walker-2 wrote:
 
 Why are you using MySql if you are after free you could use Postgresql
 which I believe supported nested tables built in?
 
 


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Re: [U2] Suggestions for Flattening

2011-11-09 Thread Bill Brutzman
I asked this same question at a recent www.njsql.org meeting.

The answer that a few of the SQL programmers (who have done this) seemed to 
agree on was to... just make a new SQL table for each of the associations.

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Re: [U2] Suggestions for flattening Multivalues...

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Romanow
I have used Sleepy Mongoose to push data to mongo via curl.

http://www.snailinaturtleneck.com/blog/2010/02/22/sleepy-mongoose-a-mongodb-rest-interface/

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:07 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
nab...@mvdbs.com wrote:


 Try MongoDB - It's a good match to a mvdbms and has drivers for most common
 programming environments.

 djm


 phil walker-2 wrote:

 Why are you using MySql if you are after free you could use Postgresql
 which I believe supported nested tables built in?




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[U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

2011-11-09 Thread Allen E. Elwood

Anyone need/want the original JES pick basic book, here's your chance to
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Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Porter
It's commonly available on Amazon's market in used condition for that range as 
well.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0830628452/ref=dp_olp_used 
 
 
 
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Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

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Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

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Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

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Re: [U2] Extracting XML attributes

2011-11-09 Thread Symeon Breen
Your start is the Feed element in the pr namespace.

The u2 xml extraction does not always work too well with namespaces.

If required I can supply you an xsl to 'de namepsace' an xml - it is then
simple preprocessing task using xmltproc to give you a cleaner (in u2
regards) xml.

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Subject: [U2] Extracting XML attributes

Does anyone have an example of an XPath definition to extract an attribute
from an XML element?  The universe documentation for 10.3 and
11.1 doesn't cover this.   

I am trying to get the value of ProductId from the following XML
example:

pr:Feed xmlns:pr=urn:someurl
  Data
Products
  Product ProductId=ABC
  ...
  /Product
  Product ProductId=123
  ...
  /Product
  Product ProductId=XYZ
  ...
  /Product
   /Products
  /Data
/pr

Using the this extraction file:

U2XML_extraction xmlns:USxml=http://www.rocketU2.com/U2-xml; 
   file_extraction start=/Data dictionary=XMLTESTFILE null=EMPTY
/
   field_extraction field=@ID path=Products/Product/@ProductId ,/
/U2XML_extraction

I get the following error:

LIST XMLDATA EDGENET_XML XML/test.ext
Open XML data file failed.
XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file '/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext',
line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an attribute name

Open XML data file failed.
XMLParser error message: Fatal error at file '/Volume1/MIS/XML/test.ext',
line 3, column 69. Message: Expected an attribute name

Unable to open XMLDATA:EDGENET_XML,XML/test.ext file.

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Re: [U2] BCI

2011-11-09 Thread Symeon Breen
I cant remember exactly but I thought the date data type only came in on sql 
server 2005, and that it was just datetime before that .



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Cooper, Rudy
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Subject: Re: [U2] BCI

?Symeon,

The data type is 'date'.  I have not tried any other data type.  Maybe I should 
change the sql data type to 'datetime'?

Rudy

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From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com
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1st problem -  - the  data type - is a date or datetime - have you tried the 
other - or even a timespan.

 



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Cooper, Rudy
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Subject: [U2] BCI

Need some help on using a bci function with sql server.

We are running UV 10.3.3 on windows 2003 server sp2.

We've been using bci to run sprocs in sql server.

A couple of things came up that we're having problems with which we have never 
used before and thought this list might be of help to us.
...
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Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues

2011-11-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
 From: Martin Braid
 VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin

How so?

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Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

2011-11-09 Thread John Hester
Since this thread is already labeled semi-ot, thought I'd throw this out
there:

http://wn.com/Dick_Pick

It's a Pick Systems marketing video from 1990 that someone posted to
YouTube.  Might be interesting for anyone new to Pick and curious about
its origins.  I enjoyed it purely for nostalgia. 

-John

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Allen E.
Elwood
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:38 PM
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Subject: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay


Anyone need/want the original JES pick basic book, here's your chance to
pick it up for a mere $10 spot, give or take a few cents.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pick-Basic-Programmers-Guide-The-Pick-library-/3
0056
4645053?pt=US_Nonfiction_Bookhash=item45fb0c84bd

Not affiliated

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Re: [U2] Extracting XML attributes

2011-11-09 Thread Bobby Worley
The xsl would be much appreciated, thanks!

Bob
bwor...@coburns.com


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Extracting XML attributes

Your start is the Feed element in the pr namespace.

The u2 xml extraction does not always work too well with namespaces.

If required I can supply you an xsl to 'de namepsace' an xml - it is
then
simple preprocessing task using xmltproc to give you a cleaner (in u2
regards) xml.


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Re: [U2] Old tricks for old dogs

2011-11-09 Thread Wjhonson

TOTAL.PAGES = KEY.COUNT/5 ; IF INT(TOTAL.PAGES)#TOTAL.PAGES THEN TOTAL.PAGES = 
INT(TOTAL.PAGES)+1

is equivalent to

TOTAL.PAGES = INT((KEY.COUNT-1)/5) + 1

Or how to page and avoid a final blank page logic
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Re: [U2] [semi-ot] JE Sisk basic book on the eBay

2011-11-09 Thread Tony Gravagno
 From: Allen E. Elwood
 Anyone need/want the original JES pick basic book, 
 here's your chance to pick it up for a mere $10 spot, 
 give or take a few cents.

This market could Really use new books that include
platform-specific nuances, communications with different
languages and protocols, and other modern concerns.  But in a
market that gets excited about $10 books that are over 20 years
old, there's just no incentive for authors to create the
material.  I was in a MV user group meeting a couple years ago
where the consensus was that no one reads documentation anyway so
why bother writing or maintaining it.  WTH?  We've collectively
created the market that we live in, and it's being killed off by
the hand of people who claim to love it so well.  I wrote about
the book problem a few years ago:
nospamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2007/05/mvbooks1.html 

T

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Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues

2011-11-09 Thread Martin Braid
If you use Player to load an image, then Wintegrate will not start until
you close the Player (not the image, the Player itself)

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 From: Martin Braid
 VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin

How so?

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