Re: [U2] universe compiler -xref output
From: Buss, Troy I'd like to eliminate assigned but unused variables, so I'm looking for output that has single assignments only. I asked about this a couple days ago in the mvToolbox forum, and was told that product should be able to help with this. That's no surprise as it has a million other features, so why not this one? mvToolbox is one of the best products in this industry, but it's largely unknown and thus seriously under-appreciated. Get a 1-year (!?) free trial: http://www.mvtoolbox.com No, I have nothing to gain from recommending this software. I am not a developer, sales rep, nor providing related services. It's just good software that deserves an occasional mention. T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Universe's DOS command
The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a bat file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
From DOS/Windows days, which also uses the same /c (argument), I just assumed it meant Command. Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com 2/15/2012 12:27 PM The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a bat file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
An educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command processor (command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. If in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? you can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates Further down the help display, it gives more information. On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a bat file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
The /c is to close the command session when the supplied process/batchfile completes. This returns you back to your originating session of Universe. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:28 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe's DOS command The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a bat file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
Oh... My... God Amazing try DOS /C DIR then try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command An educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor (command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. If in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? ou can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates Further down the help display, it gives more information. On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a at file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, ...Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
Ummm ... it's not a UniVerse thing, it's a command prompt thing. Open up a command prompt window, and type cmd /? And you'll see all the options. /c means run the following command, then close the window /k means run the following command, and keep the window open There's a whole list of command options ... Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:00 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Oh... My... God Amazing try DOS /C DIR then try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command An educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor (command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. If in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? ou can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates Further down the help display, it gives more information. On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a at file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, ...Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
This one in particular (the /K) is exactly what I need to debug an issue I'm having. A real world issue, in an actual program I'm actually writing at this very moment. (That large remark is for Tony, who I'm sure will eventually jump in here and call me a troll.) -Original Message- From: Larry Hiscock lar...@wcs-corp.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 11:05 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Ummm ... it's not a UniVerse thing, it's a command prompt thing. Open up a ommand prompt window, and type cmd /? And you'll see all the options. /c means run the following command, then close the window k means run the following command, and keep the window open There's a whole list of command options ... Larry Hiscock estern Computer Services Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:00 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h... My... God mazing try DOS /C DIR hen try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- rom: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates urther down the help display, it gives more information. n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify at file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can ake? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users egards, ..Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. ersonal e-mail: r...@anzio.com ompany e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com treet address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA _ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] universe compiler -xref output
I saw this software many years ago at Spectrum conference. So I clicked on the link to see what's new. Most of the pages are dead and the ones that are not are hopeless out of date. See your comment from 2004 on http://www.mvtoolbox.com/Testimonials.1.html. I would be very worried that any product I get from them would not be well supported if they cannot get their web site in order. Doug On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.comwrote: From: Buss, Troy I'd like to eliminate assigned but unused variables, so I'm looking for output that has single assignments only. I asked about this a couple days ago in the mvToolbox forum, and was told that product should be able to help with this. That's no surprise as it has a million other features, so why not this one? mvToolbox is one of the best products in this industry, but it's largely unknown and thus seriously under-appreciated. Get a 1-year (!?) free trial: http://www.mvtoolbox.com No, I have nothing to gain from recommending this software. I am not a developer, sales rep, nor providing related services. It's just good software that deserves an occasional mention. T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
I guess the thing is, people just don't learn Windows any more. Because it's so ubiquitous, and so 'just there', they tend to forget (or never learn) that there's a lot of good stuff going on underneath.. I'm just as bad: until recently I'd never used symlinks on Windows (as I've done for years on UNIX).. And most people don't seem to realize that Windows has a very powerful and capable scripting host (and one that works with UniObjects, which is great..) The list goes on.. Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 15 February 2012 19:08 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command This one in particular (the /K) is exactly what I need to debug an issue I'm having. A real world issue, in an actual program I'm actually writing at this very moment. (That large remark is for Tony, who I'm sure will eventually jump in here and call me a troll.) -Original Message- From: Larry Hiscock lar...@wcs-corp.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 11:05 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Ummm ... it's not a UniVerse thing, it's a command prompt thing. Open up a ommand prompt window, and type cmd /? And you'll see all the options. /c means run the following command, then close the window k means run the following command, and keep the window open There's a whole list of command options ... Larry Hiscock estern Computer Services Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:00 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h... My... God mazing try DOS /C DIR hen try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- rom: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates urther down the help display, it gives more information. n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify at file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can ake? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users egards, ..Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. ersonal e-mail: r...@anzio.com ompany e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com treet address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA _ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mvToolbox
From: Doug Averch I saw this software many years ago at Spectrum conference. So I clicked on the link to see what's new. Most of the pages are dead and the ones that are not are hopeless out of date. See your comment from 2004 on http://www.mvtoolbox.com/Testimonials.1.html. I would be very worried that any product I get from them would not be well supported if they cannot get their web site in order. I heard this from someone else too so I'll respond. Bro Cope, the author of mvToolbox has been putting his heart into this software for a couple decades. In short, mvToolbox is a character-based editor on steroids - it does what Pick people want but without an unfamiliar GUI which simply turns some people off. Doug - you, Brian L, Bob R, Pete S, Fred T, Doug L, myself, and others here have the same sort of passion for tools that we create for this industry. Bro invested in marketing a few years ago and unfortunately blew his budget without getting the returns required for the product to sustain itself. We've all been there. It's sometimes tough to get back on the horse - sometimes the horse runs away and we're left walking. So Bro has this really great software but an old and icky website, and not many venues for getting his software into the hands of people who can use it. He's even now offering it for free just to get it out there. He seems to suffer from the same missing gene as most of us Pick people - he's not a marketing guy and he isn't a web developer. OK, those skills aren't in his DNA and he doesn't have anyone else working for him. But I think people can cut him some slack and check out the fine offering despite the rough packaging. The software deserves it and so does Bro. The rewards for using his software can make the inquiry well worth the effort. The only problem with the software, IMO, is that it does a Lot more than any product should - it's like Photoshop where most people are used to PC Paint, it's MS Word where most people use Notepad (or AE or ED). And the documentation to support the deep functionality is overwhelming. I've suggested to him that he disable features to create a Lite product and upsell the Pro version once people get it. It's a helluva thing to say a product does too much and is over-documented, but there ya go. It's for these reasons that I don't use the software daily myself, but that doesn't stop me from recommending it to others who spend more time in BASIC. Maybe if Bro can sell a couple licenses he'll be able to dedicate some time to cleaning up his website and trimming down his documentation. In the mean time, it costs people nothing (for a year?) for anyone here to just endure a little grief to get their hands on this software, and the benefits could be huge. Questions can be directed here: http://groups.google.com/group/mvtoolbox/about HTH T Tony Gravagno wrote: mvToolbox is one of the best products in this industry, but it's largely unknown and thus seriously under-appreciated. Get a 1-year (!?) free trial: http://www.mvtoolbox.com No, I have nothing to gain from recommending this software. I am not a developer, sales rep, nor providing related services. It's just good software that deserves an occasional mention. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
They actually do document these. Go to a command prompt and type: cmd /? Or help cmd (Both produce the same output) Enjoy! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: February-15-12 11:00 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Oh... My... God Amazing try DOS /C DIR then try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command An educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor (command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. If in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? ou can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates Further down the help display, it gives more information. On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a at file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, ...Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command executable at TCL. You only get the /c It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. Like There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /? -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command They actually do document these. Go to a command prompt and type: cmd /? Or help cmd (Both produce the same output) Enjoy! -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: February-15-12 11:00 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h... My... God mazing try DOS /C DIR hen try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- rom: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates urther down the help display, it gives more information. n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a at ile like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users egards, ..Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. ersonal e-mail: r...@anzio.com ompany e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com treet address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA __ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
I Tried doing the same with UV/Unix (except with the SH command). Sh -c 'ls' gives me directory Sh -k 'ls' gives a strange error: /bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file I don't have a DOS box to test DOS on, so what happened when you did DOS /K...? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:09 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command executable at TCL. You only get the /c It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. Like There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
The /k option is used to run a command (like a batch file) and keep the command shell around for more commands. The only difference to the /c option is that it does not immediately close after running your command. *nix doesn't have a /k option (but might have a different one). I suspect Universe doesn't document it because what that CMD prompt can do is dependent on the version of DOS/Windows you are running. They pass off to the O/S cmd.exe executable and it's up to that to determine what it does. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: February-15-12 1:14 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command I Tried doing the same with UV/Unix (except with the SH command). Sh -c 'ls' gives me directory Sh -k 'ls' gives a strange error: /bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file I don't have a DOS box to test DOS on, so what happened when you did DOS /K...? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:09 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command executable at TCL. You only get the /c It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. Like There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
OK, so it looks like it's just pushing to unix what is on the command line, and So the -c is an option to the sh command. I'll have to look into this now as well As to whether any of the options are of any use, other than -c George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Houben Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command The /k option is used to run a command (like a batch file) and keep the command shell around for more commands. The only difference to the /c option is that it does not immediately close after running your command. *nix doesn't have a /k option (but might have a different one). I suspect Universe doesn't document it because what that CMD prompt can do is dependent on the version of DOS/Windows you are running. They pass off to the O/S cmd.exe executable and it's up to that to determine what it does. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: February-15-12 1:14 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command I Tried doing the same with UV/Unix (except with the SH command). Sh -c 'ls' gives me directory Sh -k 'ls' gives a strange error: /bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file I don't have a DOS box to test DOS on, so what happened when you did DOS /K...? George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
Note that in Unix/Linux, the options available may depend on what shell you're running (sh, bash, etc.). On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, George Gallen wrote: OK, so it looks like it's just pushing to unix what is on the command line, and So the -c is an option to the sh command. I'll have to look into this now as well As to whether any of the options are of any use, other than -c George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Houben Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command The /k option is used to run a command (like a batch file) and keep the command shell around for more commands. The only difference to the /c option is that it does not immediately close after running your command. *nix doesn't have a /k option (but might have a different one). I suspect Universe doesn't document it because what that CMD prompt can do is dependent on the version of DOS/Windows you are running. They pass off to the O/S cmd.exe executable and it's up to that to determine what it does. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: February-15-12 1:14 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command I Tried doing the same with UV/Unix (except with the SH command). Sh -c 'ls' gives me directory Sh -k 'ls' gives a strange error: /bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file I don't have a DOS box to test DOS on, so what happened when you did DOS /K...? George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] U2-Users Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13
bill - Reply message - From: u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 34, Issue 13 Date: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 1:00 pm Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: universe compiler -xref output (Tony Gravagno) 2. Universe's DOS command (Wjhonson) 3. Re: Universe's DOS command (Robert Porter) 4. Re: Universe's DOS command (Bob Rasmussen) 5. Re: Universe's DOS command (Woodward, Bob) 6. Re: Universe's DOS command (Wjhonson) 7. Re: Universe's DOS command (Larry Hiscock) 8. Re: Universe's DOS command (Wjhonson) 9. Re: universe compiler -xref output (Doug Averch) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:57:52 -0800 From: Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] universe compiler -xref output Message-ID: 23716-1329328673-607...@sneakemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Buss, Troy I'd like to eliminate assigned but unused variables, so I'm looking for output that has single assignments only. I asked about this a couple days ago in the mvToolbox forum, and was told that product should be able to help with this. That's no surprise as it has a million other features, so why not this one? mvToolbox is one of the best products in this industry, but it's largely unknown and thus seriously under-appreciated. Get a 1-year (!?) free trial: http://www.mvtoolbox.com No, I have nothing to gain from recommending this software. I am not a developer, sales rep, nor providing related services. It's just good software that deserves an occasional mention. T -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:27:42 -0500 (EST) From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Universe's DOS command Message-ID: 8ceba26a30ee752-cc0-22...@webmail-m092.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a bat file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:33:52 -0600 From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Message-ID: 4f3ba630.820d.005...@ochsner.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From DOS/Windows days, which also uses the same /c (argument), I just assumed it meant Command. Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com 2/15/2012 12:27 PM The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a bat file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:38:43 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Message-ID: pine.lnx.4.64ras.1202151033440.7...@nimbus.anzio.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII An educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command processor (command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. If in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? you can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates Further down the help display, it gives more information. On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a bat file like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
yeah, they left that out. If you look at the docs for the SH. CSH, and VI commands, they suggest that you look at the unix documentation on those commands, but they don't mention it in the manual for DOS. Maybe they assumed you would figure that out by looking at the VOC entry: DOS 001 V 002 cmd.exe 003 U 004 TICERGM 007 /Q The U on line 3 of the VOC means that running the verb will execute line 2 as an os command and pass the rest of the command line to the os command. If you wanted to you could create your own verbs like this, for example if you have cygwin installed you could run the cygwin shell instead of the cmd.exe shell. This is more useful on unix than on windows, because the command needs to run in the console and not try to open desktop windows. If, for example, you try to run NOTEPAD.EXE like this, your terminal will hang because notepad is running somewhere in a virtual desktop that you can't get to. If you try to use the SH verb on windows, or the DOS verb on unix, you get a message telling you the command doesn't work on your OS. The E on line 4 of the voc controls this. Verbs with an E run on windows but not on unix. (There's a chapter on this in the system description manual). On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Wjhonson wrote: I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command executable at TCL. You only get the /c It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. Like There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /? -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command They actually do document these. Go to a command prompt and type: cmd /? Or help cmd (Both produce the same output) Enjoy! -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: February-15-12 11:00 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h... My... God mazing try DOS /C DIR hen try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- rom: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates urther down the help display, it gives more information. n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a at ile like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users egards, ..Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. ersonal e-mail: r...@anzio.com ompany e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com treet address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA __ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
Oh wow. Urm So any command that requires input will hang, I got that, because it's not actually opening an interactive session with *your process* but rather with the server (or thereabouts). So I just connected to the server and checked Task Manager and there are a lot of processes with my name on them from failed attempts where some input was requested. Which also tells me why files weren't closing and updating, and why I was getting errors that files were still in use and so on. -Original Message- From: Ed Clark u...@edclark.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command yeah, they left that out. If you look at the docs for the SH. CSH, and VI ommands, they suggest that you look at the unix documentation on those ommands, but they don't mention it in the manual for DOS. Maybe they assumed ou would figure that out by looking at the VOC entry: DOS 01 V 02 cmd.exe 03 U 04 TICERGM 07 /Q The U on line 3 of the VOC means that running the verb will execute line 2 as an s command and pass the rest of the command line to the os command. If you anted to you could create your own verbs like this, for example if you have ygwin installed you could run the cygwin shell instead of the cmd.exe shell. his is more useful on unix than on windows, because the command needs to run in he console and not try to open desktop windows. If, for example, you try to run OTEPAD.EXE like this, your terminal will hang because notepad is running omewhere in a virtual desktop that you can't get to. If you try to use the SH verb on windows, or the DOS verb on unix, you get a essage telling you the command doesn't work on your OS. The E on line 4 of he voc controls this. Verbs with an E run on windows but not on unix. (There's chapter on this in the system description manual). On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Wjhonson wrote: I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command xecutable at TCL. You only get the /c It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. Like There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /? -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command They actually do document these. Go to a command prompt and type: cmd /? Or help cmd (Both produce the same output) Enjoy! -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: February-15-12 11:00 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h... My... God mazing try DOS /C DIR hen try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- rom: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates urther down the help display, it gives more information. n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a t ile like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users egards, ..Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. ersonal e-mail: r...@anzio.com ompany e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com treet address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA __ -Users mailing list -us...@listserver.u2ug.org tp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
It depends... You are in DOS mode (as opposed to window mode). If you launch anything that requires a graphical environment, it will launch that environment as LocalSystem or something equivalent and you'll have a problem (you can end-task in task-manager - you've probably already figured that out). In theory, you can execute just cmd.exe (with no /c option) and you will be able to provide it input through the keyboard. You just can't do anything that requires window mode. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: February-15-12 3:57 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Oh wow. Urm So any command that requires input will hang, I got that, because it's not actually opening an interactive session with *your process* but rather with the server (or thereabouts). So I just connected to the server and checked Task Manager and there are a lot of processes with my name on them from failed attempts where some input was requested. Which also tells me why files weren't closing and updating, and why I was getting errors that files were still in use and so on. -Original Message- From: Ed Clark u...@edclark.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 3:35 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command yeah, they left that out. If you look at the docs for the SH. CSH, and VI ommands, they suggest that you look at the unix documentation on those ommands, but they don't mention it in the manual for DOS. Maybe they assumed ou would figure that out by looking at the VOC entry: DOS 01 V 02 cmd.exe 03 U 04 TICERGM 07 /Q The U on line 3 of the VOC means that running the verb will execute line 2 as an s command and pass the rest of the command line to the os command. If you anted to you could create your own verbs like this, for example if you have ygwin installed you could run the cygwin shell instead of the cmd.exe shell. his is more useful on unix than on windows, because the command needs to run in he console and not try to open desktop windows. If, for example, you try to run OTEPAD.EXE like this, your terminal will hang because notepad is running omewhere in a virtual desktop that you can't get to. If you try to use the SH verb on windows, or the DOS verb on unix, you get a essage telling you the command doesn't work on your OS. The E on line 4 of he voc controls this. Verbs with an E run on windows but not on unix. (There's chapter on this in the system description manual). On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Wjhonson wrote: I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command xecutable at TCL. You only get the /c It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. Like There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /? -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command They actually do document these. Go to a command prompt and type: cmd /? Or help cmd (Both produce the same output) Enjoy! -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: February-15-12 11:00 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h... My... God mazing try DOS /C DIR hen try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- rom: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor command.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates urther down the help display, it gives more information. n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a t ile like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z or \x that it can take? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users egards, ..Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. ersonal e-mail: r...@anzio.com ompany e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com treet address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
Thanks. What I was saying was that *if* you DOS /c cmd And that cmd requires input, a task will be created that never dies, evidently. Or perhaps it was because the cmd I was trying to use was ftp perhaps that's the culprit that creates the undead task. Once I killed all the jobs in the Windows Task Manager, the Universe jobs died on their own. Before I did that, you could not kill those jobs even in UniAdmin. -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 4:11 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command It depends... You are in DOS mode (as opposed to window mode). If you launch nything that requires a graphical environment, it will launch that environment s LocalSystem or something equivalent and you'll have a problem (you can nd-task in task-manager - you've probably already figured that out). In heory, you can execute just cmd.exe (with no /c option) and you will be able to rovide it input through the keyboard. You just can't do anything that requires indow mode. -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: February-15-12 3:57 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h wow. rm So any command that requires input will hang, I got that, because it's not ctually opening an interactive session with *your process* but rather with the erver (or thereabouts). So I just connected to the server and checked Task Manager and there are a lot f processes with my name on them from failed attempts where some input was equested. Which also tells me why files weren't closing and updating, and why I was etting errors that files were still in use and so on. Original Message- rom: Ed Clark u...@edclark.net o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 3:35 pm ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command eah, they left that out. If you look at the docs for the SH. CSH, and VI mmands, they suggest that you look at the unix documentation on those ommands, ut they don't mention it in the manual for DOS. Maybe they assumed ou would igure that out by looking at the VOC entry: DOS 1 V 2 cmd.exe 3 U 4 TICERGM 7 /Q he U on line 3 of the VOC means that running the verb will execute line 2 as an command and pass the rest of the command line to the os command. If you anted o you could create your own verbs like this, for example if you have ygwin nstalled you could run the cygwin shell instead of the cmd.exe shell. is is more useful on unix than on windows, because the command needs to run in e console and not try to open desktop windows. If, for example, you try to run TEPAD.EXE like this, your terminal will hang because notepad is running mewhere in a virtual desktop that you can't get to. f you try to use the SH verb on windows, or the DOS verb on unix, you get a ssage telling you the command doesn't work on your OS. The E on line 4 of he oc controls this. Verbs with an E run on windows but not on unix. (There's hapter on this in the system description manual). n Feb 15, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Wjhonson wrote: I mean they are not document in the Universe manuals for the DOS command ecutable at TCL. You only get the /c It doesn't even tell you where to go to get more information. Like There are other options, go to Dos and type cmd /? -Original Message- From: Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 1:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command They actually do document these. Go to a command prompt and type: cmd /? Or help cmd (Both produce the same output) Enjoy! -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: February-15-12 11:00 AM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command h... My... God mazing try DOS /C DIR hen try DOS /K DIR how come they don't document this and we have to make guesses? -Original Message- rom: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 10:38 am ubject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command n educated guess would be that the DOS command invokes the command rocessor ommand.com in long-ago Windows, cmd.exe now) and passes the \c (or is it /c?) to it. f in Windows you open a CMD prompt, and type cmd /? u can see what options it accepts. My output includes: /C Carries out the command specified by string and then terminates urther down the help display, it gives more information. n Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Wjhonson wrote: The DOS command in Universe takes a /c argument and then you can specify a t le like DOS \c test.bat What does \c mean? Are there other arguments like \z r \x that it can take?
Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command
I had that same problem with FTP, but I was remote into the server at the time. I figured the process hung, because it triggered one of those program xxx wants to access the internet messages, and was waiting for an operator to Allow or Deny it. Drove me nuts, I gave up trying to run an ftp session on UV on NT, when I accessing it via wintergate from a PC. Instead I had the PC do the ftp session, wrote/read the files from a common folder that the UV server had access to. But now that you bring it up.maybe this was the culprit. George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.com From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson [wjhon...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:21 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Universe's DOS command Thanks. What I was saying was that *if* you DOS /c cmd And that cmd requires input, a task will be created that never dies, evidently. Or perhaps it was because the cmd I was trying to use was ftp perhaps that's the culprit that creates the undead task. Once I killed all the jobs in the Windows Task Manager, the Universe jobs died on their own. Before I did that, you could not kill those jobs even in UniAdmin. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mvToolbox
You are telling us a great story with a very unhappy ending for a tool that may have been great in 1995. There is no market for a tool that runs on telnet system no matter what great features it has or could have. That would be like me telling you can code in Java using VI or EMACS. Or better yet, try writing .NET code using Wordpad or Notepad. Neither one of those scenarios would happen, so why do U2 programmer's think it's okay to use antiquated tools. The MV road is littered with tools that someone wrote thinking they had the next System Builder or wIntegrate. Whether you are looking at Rocket's BDT, U2logic's XLr8Editor or Brian's MVDeveloper, we all better if every programmer was using a modern tool that does not look like a DOS editor. If I'm doing a demo, working at a client, or just from the office, I'm always using our tool. It has been years since a C-suite person wondered why I'm coding using a line by line editor, because they will never see it happen. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com XLr8Editor still only $49.00 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mvToolbox
There's no market for a tool that runs on a telnet system. Except I think Accuterm is still selling licenses. And it's essentially a tool on a telnet. I mean it's not UVShell. The enhancements are what sells it, for me at least. -Original Message- From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 6:02 pm Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox You are telling us a great story with a very unhappy ending for a tool hat may have been great in 1995. There is no market for a tool that runs n telnet system no matter what great features it has or could have. That ould be like me telling you can code in Java using VI or EMACS. Or better et, try writing .NET code using Wordpad or Notepad. Neither one of hose scenarios would happen, so why do U2 programmer's think it's okay to se antiquated tools. The MV road is littered with tools that someone wrote thinking they had the ext System Builder or wIntegrate. Whether you are looking at Rocket's DT, U2logic's XLr8Editor or Brian's MVDeveloper, we all better if every rogrammer was using a modern tool that does not look like a DOS editor. If I'm doing a demo, working at a client, or just from the office, I'm lways using our tool. It has been years since a C-suite person wondered hy I'm coding using a line by line editor, because they will never see it appen. Regards, oug ww.u2logic.com XLr8Editor still only $49.00 __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
