Re: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux
Inline below... Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of William Brutzman Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:49 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux 1. I am having some problems trying to get to first base. Have you considered stepping into the ball? Taunting the pitcher? 2. There is this cpio command. Yup. 3. Is it necessary to install from a CD or DVD? Nope. 4. I would rather install from FTP'd files. No problem. 5. Mounting the media is a hassle... so is CDFS on a DVD. Can be... but not if you know how... 6. Suggestions would be appreciated. Download the NEWINSTALL.pdf guide from the Rocket Web Site... http://www3.rocketsoftware.com/marketing-files/uv112doc.zip --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing
I recall seeing and reporting this issue back in UniData 3.5.2 on Solaris. I recall seeing and reporting this issue back in UniData 5.something on AIX. Both times, support calls were opened. Both times, as we had done much of what you have already done, the call was closed as No Fault Found because we were unable to reproduce the fault. There are also prior reports of this or a similar issue in the archives here (to the best of my recollection). None of these occurred after an upgrade or update to the system or UniData; administratively, the machines had been stagnant for a while. Best of luck! Regards, Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing As always, thanks G-Man! I can't replicate it. It just comes up every six months (or so) with something totally different happening within our application, not to everybody, but to someone. The testing is always the same; test to confirm, put in the DEBUG, recompile, test, confirm fix, take out DEBUG, recompile, test to confirm fix, then move on. In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of transactions have taken place with no problems. All I can say is; it could be worse! :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* 3xk547...@sneakemail.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 7/25/2013 1:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing Bill, at Pick Systems we occasionally saw issues like this, where the object code would behave differently if specific statements (their opcodes/tokens) were broken across frame boundaries. Until DBMS patches become available, the problem could be avoided with some carefully-placed NULL statements. I've seen this with RPL too, for exactly the same reasons. I know nothing of U2 internals but the internals are of course similar. Unfortunately without a confirmed cause/effect scenario defined by engineers, it's a crap shoot as to whether inserting NULLs will help, or where they can be inserted to ensure they work. I suggest you contact Rocket and ask them to pursue this as a byte-level issue in your object code. Sending them the code might not help if they test in an environment that's different from your own. They need to see it on your system. I'm just trying to save you some wasted diagnostic time... Best, T From: Bill Haskett ... a single BASIC program didn't run a couple of lines of code... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing
We never knew which guys to ask for - the guys in the black suits or the white suits? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:36 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing Do you have the two-inch lead shielding around your server room to block cosmic rays? -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Jul 25, 2013 5:28 pm Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing I recall seeing and reporting this issue back in UniData 3.5.2 on Solaris. I recall seeing and reporting this issue back in UniData 5.something on AIX. Both times, support calls were opened. Both times, as we had done much of what you have already done, the call was closed as No Fault Found because we were unable to reproduce the fault. There are also prior reports of this or a similar issue in the archives here (to the best of my recollection). None of these occurred after an upgrade or update to the system or UniData; administratively, the machines had been stagnant for a while. Best of luck! Regards, Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing As always, thanks G-Man! I can't replicate it. It just comes up every six months (or so) with something totally different happening within our application, not to everybody, but to someone. The testing is always the same; test to confirm, put in the DEBUG, recompile, test, confirm fix, take out DEBUG, recompile, test to confirm fix, then move on. In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of transactions have taken place with no problems. All I can say is; it could be worse! :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* 3xk547...@sneakemail.com *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 7/25/2013 1:04 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [UD] BASIC Code Failing Bill, at Pick Systems we occasionally saw issues like this, where the object code would behave differently if specific statements (their opcodes/tokens) were broken across frame boundaries. Until DBMS patches become available, the problem could be avoided with some carefully-placed NULL statements. I've seen this with RPL too, for exactly the same reasons. I know nothing of U2 internals but the internals are of course similar. Unfortunately without a confirmed cause/effect scenario defined by engineers, it's a crap shoot as to whether inserting NULLs will help, or where they can be inserted to ensure they work. I suggest you contact Rocket and ask them to pursue this as a byte-level issue in your object code. Sending them the code might not help if they test in an environment that's different from your own. They need to see it on your system. I'm just trying to save you some wasted diagnostic time... Best, T From: Bill Haskett ... a single BASIC program didn't run a couple of lines of code... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Same... How weird is that? AC Expressway is about 3 miles away... Haven't found one in years... Last good supplier I knew of was in Camden... many, many years ago. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:24 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Where outside Philadelphia are you? I'm in Camden Co. And what local places have you found (I'm always looking, Since Radio Shack is becoming less and less of an option these days. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Wyatt Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 7:07 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? So, the $20 question... For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some parts laying around, or ??? Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores. If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the shipping, waiting, and minimum order? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
So, the $20 question... For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some parts laying around, or ??? Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores. If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the shipping, waiting, and minimum order? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 5:03 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst night. I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and transposed the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v cap and blew the supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on the brain today ) and the right cap and all is well. I seem to be transposing numbers a lot lately. Brain damage finally showing up. Robert - Original Message - From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in the MV community :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 03 May 2013 17:20 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean. Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV
Symeon, I'm curious whether these companies are retail, manufacturing, services, or ??? I'm also curious whether their presence there is driven by you, or driven by their business model? Not knowing geographically where you are, please pardon my references to U.S. retail stores. I'm not prone to visit Walmart or Best Buy because they have a Facebook presence, or because they have coupons advertised there-in. IF (and that is a big IF) they have the product I seek at a price I'm willing to pay, I'll visit the store; I'm not a coupon/rebate shopper. I'm not going to join Facebook or Twitter to follow the local news or television personalities, Amazon, my favorite deodorant, my preferred shampoo, and the like. I'm not planning on joining Facebook or Twitter to follow Rocket Software or their staff. Part of why I will not is due to my privacy and security concerns, and the abuses taken by these sites. Sure, you can try to harden your presence there, but, in the end, the appearance of control and hardening is weakened by the site usage agreements they change next month. Vendors that I am involved with have my E-mail address; I figure if there is something I need to know, they'll tell me directly; if not, it will be posted on their web site. I don't have the time to visit a half-dozen (or more) places to get reliable and authoritative information regarding product news, staff updates, information for a problem I'm trying to solve, and so-on. The more places I have to look, the more time I have lost, and I question the accuracy or relevancy of whatever I seek when I find it on a social site and nowhere else. So I'm interested in what is driving the socialization of the commercialization process - is it a fit for all companies? Is it a fit for those companies wanting name recognition, or in the retail space wanting to attract more sales? What drove the companies with which you are involved go the socialization route? Having done it for one of the companies, did you drive it for the others? How do you gauge the success (or failure) of your presence there? How did you balance the desire (may be need, but...) to be on these web sites with the security and privacy concerns the company may have had? Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:31 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV Every company I am involved in has a facebook/linkedin/twitter account and we keep them updated regularly - it is essential in modern business marketing to do this. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: 15 March 2013 22:12 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Social Networks for MV I'm on a mini campaign to make more MV colleagues aware of the benefits of using Twitter and other social media. Everyone is welcome to visit my blog on the topic and to comment here or there. http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv1.html Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog Visit http://PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno http://groups.google.com/group/mvdbms ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5677 - Release Date: 03/15/13 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Social Networks for MV
Tony, I read the blog, but remain unmoved. I think that embracing social media weakens/dilutes/reduces the focus of the brand. If the purpose is to promote Bob Wyatt or Tony Gravagno, use social media to the fullest extent you desire. If the purpose of your web presence is to promote the brand (Nebula Research or Ashwood Computer, Inc. (my employer)), there should be as few web locations as possible. Whomever is doing the searching is interested in authoritative/reliable information - finding the information on facebook, twitter, and the like, I hope, will never ever be regarded as authoritative or reliable (in my opinion). If I want to know what Nebula Research can do for me, facebook and twitter are not on by radar as possible destinations to find out. I'm not inclined to go there even for references - I would get references from Nebula Research, not what followers of Tony (or Nebula Research) had to say on facebook or twitter. I even find the technical questions being asked (and answered) on LinkedIn as being in bad form. That isn't what LinkedIn is for. It is a narrow view, and I realize that it may not be a popular one. I'm in front of a computer more than 10 hours a day, and when I need information, I need authoritative/reliable information. And, of course, Twitter and facebook can be a huge time-vacuum - lots of time and little reward. All of the above is my personal opinion, and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of my employer... Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:12 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Social Networks for MV I'm on a mini campaign to make more MV colleagues aware of the benefits of using Twitter and other social media. Everyone is welcome to visit my blog on the topic and to comment here or there. http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2013/03/socialmv1.html Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products worldwide, and provides related development services http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog Visit http://PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno http://groups.google.com/group/mvdbms ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] U2 Bug reporting / list monitoring Not support though. Bugs. In my book, they are opposite ends of the spectrum. And a company that ignores bug reports because they don't come through approved channels is heading in the direction of Netscape and Liquid Audio. I agree there are consultants who know tricks and make customers pay for not only their knowledge of those tricks, but the hours it took them, perhaps unpaid, to acquire that knowledge. But to make the 20th customer pay the same hours as the 19th customer did, is really a bit shocking. That *some* people in the professional services world, wish that user groups didn't exist, so they could keep charging high prices for simple questions... is perhaps too bad on them. -- In my opinion, you just cannot be this naïve (or is it demanding?). OpenSource is the only arena that comes to mind where this may happen; after all, they have no other feedback channel! Even in this arena, just because you say you have a problem doesnt mean that you get a reply, or that your potential bug may eventually be resolved! A potential exception is OpenQM, which offers paid and free versions; however, I'm not sure how they handle the free side of the product, and whether forum discussions regarding potential bugs has resulted in product changes for both the free and paid versions... Neither am I familiar with their funding paradigm... If you want bugs fixed on a paid-for product that offers support contracts, buy a support contract. Report the bugs through proper channels. Bugs have to be vetted, which costs someone money. Just because you can reproduce the bug at will on your system doesnt mean that it happens to everyone running the product. Just because more than 1 person in this group may be able to reproduce the bug for you when done precisely as you document it does not mean there is a bug in the product. Just because more than 1 person in this group may be able to reproduce the bug for you when done precisely as you document it does not mean that everyone running the same environment can. Just because you mention a potential bug in a group posting but are unwilling to report it through proper channels tells me (if I were a vendor) that the problem is very minor and not worth my time or effort (if I were the vendor) to address it further. Why would Rocket expend yours, mine, and anyone else's support contract $$$ on potentially supporting/vetting/helping users not entitled (not paying for) such support/vetting/helping? What is the take-away when you get a response back from group members that doing it precisely your way fails, but doing it this other way does not - do you or do you not have a potential bug? And why should members of this group be asked to vet your issue(s), who (likely) are being paid to do other things for their employer, or, in the case of consultants, another customer? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [ud] Sub-second delay?
-Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of dennis bartlett Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:20 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [ud] Sub-second delay? Who on earth is going to understand what 'release quantum' (RQM) means? Still, it worked.. and such a clever, 'techie-appealing' concept - tho I don't know that it ever did what I was told it did, it sure sounded good! -- UniBasic User's Guide, Release 2.1, Copyright 1991 by Unidata, Inc. The original purpose of RQM was to release remaining execution time reserved for a program, allowing other programs to use the time. If a particular program was very computation-intensive, RQM could improve overall system performance. In UniData, this command functions like the SLEEP command. For further information, refer to the SLEEP statement later in this chapter. It is kind-of interesting to note the undecided way to spell Unidata/UniData back then (or that UniData hadn't been registered yet); there are no typo's (by me) in the above... Also note that the SLEEP page of the document makes no mention of RQM... REALITY by Microdata. DATA/BASIC Programming Manual, Series 3.0 - 4.0, Release 4.0, February, 1981 The time-shared environment of the REALITY system allows concurrent execution of several programs, with each program executing for a specific time period (called a timeslice or quantum) and then pausing while other programs continue execution. The RQM statement causes a one-second sleep, terminating the program's current timeslice. The RQM statement may be used in heavy compute loops to allow increased execution speed of other concurrently executing programs by giving up time. It may also be used to cause pauses. IIRC, the 'M' was measurement; the measurement was whatever remained of the processes timeslice. Documentation back to UniVerse 6.3.3 makes no mention of RQM... ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver
Wally, Since you entered the fray, are Helen Beylkin's responsibilities being split or expanded? Is she leaving or moving elsewhere within Rocket? Just curious... Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wally Terhune Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:49 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver You should read this only as a good sign that the U2 business continues to grow and expand at Rocket Software. This will be a welcome addition to our team as we accelerate and optimize our product development and delivery. Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com | Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:03 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver This job completely stunned me. Not in the good way. http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Im-hiring-fantastic-work-environment-1350.S.1 04091503?view=gid=1350type=memberitem=104091503trk=NUS_DISC_Q-ttle Anyone have an idea why? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver
Good to hear... thanks, Wally! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wally Terhune Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:11 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver No one is leaving. We are adding a new position due to growth in our development team. I suspect that how the team will ultimately be organized (and responsibilities assigned) will depend on the capabilities of the person hired. Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com | Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Wyatt Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:57 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver Wally, Since you entered the fray, are Helen Beylkin's responsibilities being split or expanded? Is she leaving or moving elsewhere within Rocket? Just curious... Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wally Terhune Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:49 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver You should read this only as a good sign that the U2 business continues to grow and expand at Rocket Software. This will be a welcome addition to our team as we accelerate and optimize our product development and delivery. Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com | Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:03 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Job at Rocket in Denver This job completely stunned me. Not in the good way. http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Im-hiring-fantastic-work-environment-1350.S.1 04091503?view=gid=1350type=memberitem=104091503trk=NUS_DISC_Q-ttle Anyone have an idea why? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] SB Client PE download [OT]
Like AOL-anything isn't buggy/crappy/adverts up the yazoo/how slow can I make your browsing experience/you don't really need to send everything you write or reply to... I find it very difficult to take anyone seriously with an AOHEdouble_hockey_sticks E-mail address... An efficient and effective means of electronic communication it is not... And don't get me started on Outlook (I can suck all of your resources for as long as it takes to fetch mail and index it) or Internet Exploder (oops - Explorer... I keep doing that!)... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:31 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download I'm responding through mail.aol.com which is AOL for the browser, instead of their own software. No idea why it would drop characters. Web apps are buggy. -Original Message- From: Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Mar 7, 2012 11:55 am Subject: Re: [U2] SB Client PE download Definitely price and perhaps inter-operability with SB+. I've used AccuTerm just never to connect to SB+. P.S. What's with your e-mail client and dropping characters?!?!?!? -Original Message- rom: Wjhonson o what's the advantage over AccuTerm ? Original Message- rom: Colin Alfke I'm not sure if Dynamic Connect is still in the client download. It can work ite well - with some setting up of a new terminal type. It won't do GUI or y of the TU applications (file transfer, Excel Downloads, etc) but it rks nicely as a terminal program. th lin ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UD] Corrupted compiled code
I've seen the problem going back 10+ years on UniData 5.X. The issue was reported to UniData, we worked with support for a while, but we never achieved the point of being able to identify the cause. This was on Solaris. A couple of years later, another client saw it in 6.X on AIX, but it was not reported to UniData - it happened with one program and was not reproducible once the steps Bill describes had been taken . Neither client elected to compile and re-catalog their software collection proactively. *DISCLAIMOR - the actual UniData version afflicted may be different from those indicated above - memory seems to get cheaper and less reliable as it ages Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wally Terhune Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:55 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] Corrupted compiled code I'm not recalling customers reporting problems like this (except for one case I have with you, Bill regarding a program creating a print job that goes into a loop once every few years). Wally Terhune U2 Support Architect Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street, Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA Tel: +1.720.475.8055 Email: wterh...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:40 PM To: U2 Mail List Subject: [U2] [UD] Corrupted compiled code I've been using UD for a number of years. I'm currently using v7.2.7. Occasionally, the compiled code gets corrupted. I notice when a client calls and indicates something doesn't work. Today I couldn't create an A/P check. After a few hours I tracked down the following message: In E:\Abo\BP\BP\_APCHECK at line 60 can not use debugger for background job In E:\Abo\BP\BP\_M.APCHECK at line 343 Phantom run basic error, exit 4. Line 60 of APCHECK looks like: IF GUIMODE THEN SuppressCRT = 1 ELSE SuppressCRT = 0 I figured I'd left a DEBUG statement in APCHECK when I called M.APCHECK (which executes APCHECK from a phantom). I didn't! Everything looked good. I finally added a simple VOC debug-record-writev to theAPCHECK program , recompiled it and reran the process. All worked fine! I took out the debug code and everything works fine. So, recompiling was all it took because the object code was corrupted somehow. Yesterday, I spent 12 hours tracking down an intermittent browser crash for one of our clients and finally came to a BUILD.HEADING program I've been using since 1995. What happened was that SYSTEM(2) was returning the value 1024 instead of 80. So, when I created a three line heading and centered stuff on each line, instead of 30 (or so) spaces created on each side of the heading line I had about 450. When the heading info was added to the ECL command the line was too long and barfed when it was executed. No error message appeared anywhere so it was with a lot of effort I was able to track this down. Upon adding a writev-debug-line and recompiling, everything started working just fine. I removed the debug line and all is working well. Naturally I've recompiled everything and rebooted the server, but this is a major pain in the a$$! Does anyone know why code that's been used for months, and maybe years, would get corrupted like this? Everything is compiled with the '-Z2' option and all cataloging is local (DIRECT FORCE). Thanks, Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection
Well. I'm not a copyright lawyer, and I'm not pretending to be. If you do as you suggest and send it back to the author for suggested improvements, I'm sure you're right - there is no violation, and you are effectively seeking documentation enhancement or correction. If you do as you suggest, do not send it back to the author or copyright holder, publish it as your own, sell it as your own, post it as your own, or otherwise take credit for authorship, I think that you would still be wrong... I don't think that it is right or ethical to take 100% of someone else's work, add a sentence or 4 or 5, and then represent it as your own. The documentation shouldn't be any different than the solution that I or anyone else in this forum may have created - just because you add a report paragraph or program that my solution did not provide does not mean that you can resell the entire solution as yours. Nothing more to be said... we apparently agree to disagree. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:45 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection You don't need permission if you're being critical. So all you have to do is take a copy of it, and then as you're working through it, criticize the lack of clarity and add the lacking clarity. Perfectly legal under copyright law :) -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and use it as is in a document I intend to sell, post publicly, or take credit for having authored it, I have violated their copyright; I require their permission to continue. If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and immaterially change it (change a word here or there) and use it in a document I intend to sell, post, or take credit for having authored it, I have violated their copyright; I require their permission to continue. And kindly note that the copyright holder differs, depending on the version covered by the documentation you have used. If I create documentation on how to use Resize without copying or referencing the Rocket documentation, I don't need Rocket's permission. If someone were to post a question in this group on how to use the Resize command and I were to respond to it with a copy of the Resize documentation, then my note needs to state that per the Rocket so-and-so manual, here is the Resize command; I am not profiting from the use of Rocket's documentation, and I have cited the source of the information. If I create documentation for a solution (whether internal or external to my organization) that states that my solution makes use of the Resize command and only discusses the manner in which I use the command, then I do not need the copyright or author's blessing. If I were to take the documentation that Rex has created, use it as is but add the clarity you seek, I need Rex's permission if it were copyrighted. If it is not copyrighted, then as a fellow team member in this forum, it is not only polite, but the right thing to do to offer Rex a collaborative effort on improving his documentation. Rex is free to decline, in which case you have three options: a) Working from your own knowledge, create your own documentation that offers the clarity you seek (which would be difficult, as you seek clarity) and properly cite Rex's work b) Work harder at understanding the features you seek to utilize c) Find another way to address your needs Should Rex accept your offer of collaboration, then you hopefully achieve the clarity you seek and the documentation may be improved. It's more than being polite - it's being respectful of others work, and about giving credit to whom (or where) it is due. Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 4:41 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection So you wouldn't create documentation on how to use the RESIZE verb without the approval of... Rocket ? That's a whole level of politeness that escapes me. I only ask for approval when it's required. -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 1:12 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection Will, If the instructions were copyrighted, it would be. nd I can say that when you work as a member of a team (and I think all of he members in this group are a part of a team), it isn't regarded as professional or classy when one takes another's initial work and odifies, alters
Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection
Gee, I had no idea what-so-ever that we were talking about E-mail... I have said, from the beginning, that I am speaking of copyrighted material, or material authored by someone else and not released in an open forum in which anyone is free to use the information in whatever manner they choose. Rocket does not produce documentation for free, even though some or most of the documentation is available on the web. You can access their documentation for free on the web, but that doesn't mean they relinquish their copyright or authorship privileges. I have never said that these rights as I have spoken of them extend to E-mail exchanges in this subscriber group. Nice try on the bait and switch... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:48 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection No you're not paying attention. Below I have copied your entire message, and now I'm criticizing it. I'm not claiming your message is MY message, that's the point of the criticism. I'm saying here is what he says, and here is what's right ;) So you are mistaken in the believe that a person selling *this* email would be claiming credit on it's contents. The credit stays the same, I did not ask your permission to do it, I'm copying your entire message for the purpose of criticizing it. You can't sue me! Well of course you can, because you can sue anyone for anything, but it would be thrown out. Just like a famous person suing over being parodied, criticism enjoys copyright exception. -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:07 am Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection Well. I'm not a copyright lawyer, and I'm not pretending to be. If you do as you suggest and send it back to the author for suggested improvements, I'm sure you're right - there is no violation, and you are effectively seeking documentation enhancement or correction. If you do as you suggest, do not send it back to the author or copyright holder, publish it as your own, sell it as your own, post it as your own, or otherwise take credit for authorship, I think that you would still be wrong... I don't think that it is right or ethical to take 100% of someone else's work, add a sentence or 4 or 5, and then represent it as your own. The documentation shouldn't be any different than the solution that I or anyone else in this forum may have created - just because you add a report paragraph or program that my solution did not provide does not mean that you can resell the entire solution as yours. Nothing more to be said... we apparently agree to disagree. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:45 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection You don't need permission if you're being critical. So all you have to do is take a copy of it, and then as you're working through it, criticize the lack of clarity and add the lacking clarity. Perfectly legal under copyright law :) -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and use it as is in a document I intend to sell, post publicly, or take credit for having authored it, I have violated their copyright; I require their permission to continue. If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and immaterially change it (change a word here or there) and use it in a document I intend to sell, post, or take credit for having authored it, I have violated their copyright; I require their permission to continue. And kindly note that the copyright holder differs, depending on the version covered by the documentation you have used. If I create documentation on how to use Resize without copying or referencing the Rocket documentation, I don't need Rocket's permission. If someone were to post a question in this group on how to use the Resize command and I were to respond to it with a copy of the Resize documentation, then my note needs to state that per the Rocket so-and-so manual, here is the Resize command; I am not profiting from the use of Rocket's documentation, and I have cited the source of the information. If I create documentation for a solution (whether internal or external to my organization) that states that my solution makes use of the Resize command and only discusses the manner in which I use the command, then I do not need the copyright or author's blessing. If I were to take the documentation that Rex has created, use
Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection
Criticism does not extend to rewriting or enhancing, in whole or in part, the author's original work. You are free to quote from the original work, citing the source of that original work. I can't remember the last book, movie, or other critique stating in any way, shape, or form ... this is how it could be better... John needs to die in chapter 7, not chapter 3, by a gunshot wound... Mary needs more character development in chapter 2. I do recall seeing criticisms that says Mary's character is weak and not very well developed until late in the book, and John's demise is untimely and unexpected. You can certainly say that the documentation is lacking, and you can certainly say that this area of the documentation needs clarification. As soon as you start changing that which you are being critical of, you are violating the author. Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:38 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection Yes you've quite missed it. The core value of your work has to BE the criticism. If the point of your work is merely to repeat not criticize, then you don't enjoy exemption. -Original Message- From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Sun, Dec 4, 2011 11:33 am Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection I ve had an idea Publish the whole of harry potter in a book called the critique of harry potter, stick a few paragraphs at the end saying it's a childrens book , why do so many adults read it etc, then sell it for 1.99. Or have I missed your point ;) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: 04 December 2011 18:48 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection No you're not paying attention. Below I have copied your entire message, and now I'm criticizing it. I'm not claiming your message is MY message, that's the point of the criticism. I'm saying here is what he says, and here is what's right ;) So you are mistaken in the believe that a person selling *this* email would be claiming credit on it's contents. The credit stays the same, I did not ask your permission to do it, I'm copying your entire message for the purpose of criticizing it. You can't sue me! Well of course you can, because you can sue anyone for anything, but it would be thrown out. Just like a famous person suing over being parodied, criticism enjoys copyright exception. -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Sun, Dec 4, 2011 10:07 am Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection Well. I'm not a copyright lawyer, and I'm not pretending to be. If you do as you suggest and send it back to the author for suggested improvements, I'm sure you're right - there is no violation, and you are effectively seeking documentation enhancement or correction. If you do as you suggest, do not send it back to the author or copyright holder, publish it as your own, sell it as your own, post it as your own, or otherwise take credit for authorship, I think that you would still be wrong... I don't think that it is right or ethical to take 100% of someone else's work, add a sentence or 4 or 5, and then represent it as your own. The documentation shouldn't be any different than the solution that I or anyone else in this forum may have created - just because you add a report paragraph or program that my solution did not provide does not mean that you can resell the entire solution as yours. Nothing more to be said... we apparently agree to disagree. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:45 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection You don't need permission if you're being critical. So all you have to do is take a copy of it, and then as you're working through it, criticize the lack of clarity and add the lacking clarity. Perfectly legal under copyright law :) -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and use it as is in a document I intend to sell, post publicly, or take credit for having authored it, I have violated their copyright; I require their permission to continue. If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and immaterially change it (change a word here or there) and use it in a document I intend to sell, post, or take
Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection
Will, If the instructions were copyrighted, it would be. And I can say that when you work as a member of a team (and I think all of the members in this group are a part of a team), it isn't regarded as professional or classy when one takes another's initial work and modifies, alters, expands, or reduces it without consent and approval from the originator. After all, why would documentation be any different than the end result of your daily programming or solution-providing labor? Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 3:19 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection They are not clear enough. You can't step on anyone by giving instructions. There's no copyright preventing anyone else from making up other instructions. -Original Message- From: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 12:02 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection Rex does have some documentation on u2pipe, but, I have not looked at it in while. I could write up the php/apache stuff pretty easy and make it nooby proof, UT, I haven't done that because it was not my idea, and I don't want to illegally step on Kevin. However, I did write up complete instructions on how to install Apache on IX 5.3 if anyone needs that. have to write things down because my limited brain power often forgets. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The problem I see is that telling people that they could make free beer, is quite different in practice from making free beer. I know that Tony feels like people should just get smarter, but I'm not the only one who has pointed out that there simply are no good install manuals for any of the various free options. Yes there are installation instructions, but they quickly spiral off into the level of geek speak that you have to already know, in order to understand. At which point most people give up. -Original Message- From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 11:52 am Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection The benefit of using any http server , iis, cassini, apache etc, is its hole multiplexing functionality, which to do well is not trivial. Iis is lso very integrated into the OS, the whole http layer is in fact inside the s, as opposed to being an application on top of the os. So it makes sense n many ways. And if you want to use .net (of which I am a big fan) and you don't have to se linux then why use mono ? Contrary to what many people believe Visual tudio, .net, MS Sql are all free (as in beer) for development/small and edium scale deployment. Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno ent: 02 December 2011 18:24 o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection For reference, it's a widespread myth that you need IIS to do web services r other website integration with Windows. That's simply not so. IIS is an pplication that provides many services including authentication, memory anagement, process allocation, routing, logging, and many others. If all want is a pipe into my daatabase then you can easily run a Windows ervice that's listening to a socket which will do whatever you want. You ust won't get all of those other services. Now, in response to not needing Windows Server, I try to avoid discussions n religion. ;) Seriously, if you like like the ASP.NET model, just not indows or Microsoft, look into Mono FOSS) where you can run your code in Windows or Linux, just like Java. Or slightly more practical) run a Windows 7 or XP guest in a virtual machine ver Linux. It's just another application, about 400MB of overhead, and houldn't require much maintenance unless you're doing other things with it. f course these aren't solutions for the masses but for some sites these olutions could be ideal in comparison with others. YMMV T From: John Thompson I do remember playing with this a few years ago, but, at the time I wasn't smart enough to make it work. I did like the fact that it did not need IIS, or Windows Server to work :) Rex Gozar wrote: My u2pipe has been available on PickWiki since 2006. If can be used with PHP, ColdFusion, ASP.NET, raw sockets, etc. http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?U2pipe ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users o virus found in this message. hecked by AVG - www.avg.com ersion: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4052 - Release Date: 12/02/11
Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection
If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and use it as is in a document I intend to sell, post publicly, or take credit for having authored it, I have violated their copyright; I require their permission to continue. If I take Rocket's documentation on Resize and immaterially change it (change a word here or there) and use it in a document I intend to sell, post, or take credit for having authored it, I have violated their copyright; I require their permission to continue. And kindly note that the copyright holder differs, depending on the version covered by the documentation you have used. If I create documentation on how to use Resize without copying or referencing the Rocket documentation, I don't need Rocket's permission. If someone were to post a question in this group on how to use the Resize command and I were to respond to it with a copy of the Resize documentation, then my note needs to state that per the Rocket so-and-so manual, here is the Resize command; I am not profiting from the use of Rocket's documentation, and I have cited the source of the information. If I create documentation for a solution (whether internal or external to my organization) that states that my solution makes use of the Resize command and only discusses the manner in which I use the command, then I do not need the copyright or author's blessing. If I were to take the documentation that Rex has created, use it as is but add the clarity you seek, I need Rex's permission if it were copyrighted. If it is not copyrighted, then as a fellow team member in this forum, it is not only polite, but the right thing to do to offer Rex a collaborative effort on improving his documentation. Rex is free to decline, in which case you have three options: a) Working from your own knowledge, create your own documentation that offers the clarity you seek (which would be difficult, as you seek clarity) and properly cite Rex's work b) Work harder at understanding the features you seek to utilize c) Find another way to address your needs Should Rex accept your offer of collaboration, then you hopefully achieve the clarity you seek and the documentation may be improved. It's more than being polite - it's being respectful of others work, and about giving credit to whom (or where) it is due. Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 4:41 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection So you wouldn't create documentation on how to use the RESIZE verb without the approval of... Rocket ? That's a whole level of politeness that escapes me. I only ask for approval when it's required. -Original Message- From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 1:12 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection Will, If the instructions were copyrighted, it would be. nd I can say that when you work as a member of a team (and I think all of he members in this group are a part of a team), it isn't regarded as professional or classy when one takes another's initial work and odifies, alters, expands, or reduces it without consent and approval from he originator. fter all, why would documentation be any different than the end result of our daily programming or solution-providing labor? Bob Wyatt -Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson ent: Friday, December 02, 2011 3:19 PM o: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ubject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection hey are not clear enough. ou can't step on anyone by giving instructions. There's no copyright reventing anyone else from making up other instructions. -Original Message- rom: John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.com o: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org ent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 12:02 pm ubject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection ex does have some documentation on u2pipe, but, I have not looked at it in hile. could write up the php/apache stuff pretty easy and make it nooby proof, T, I haven't done that because it was not my idea, and I don't want to llegally step on Kevin. owever, I did write up complete instructions on how to install Apache on IX .3 if anyone needs that. have to write things down because my limited brain power often forgets. n Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: The problem I see is that telling people that they could make free beer, s quite different in practice from making free beer. I know that Tony feels like people should just get smarter, but I'm not he only one who has pointed out that there simply are no good install anuals for any of the various free options. Yes there are installation nstructions, but they quickly
[U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions
I ran into a client with UniVerse 9.6.2.1 on Windows 2000 Server with SP4. It looks like uvbackup does some strange things on this system, and I'm wondering if someone may have seen this or know how to change it. The uvbackup command is essentially uvbackup -f -limit 1 -v -s logfile -t z:\backupfile.img -walk d:\uvdb\accounts The backup starts at 10 P.M., and finishes around 7 A.M. for a 37 GB database resulting in a 28.4 GB backup image file. The z:\backupfile.img file is a remote server path for the backup only. For the entire 9 hours, z:\backupfile.img file never exists - it doesn't get created until the job is done, it runs out of resources, or falls into some error that causes uvbackup to ask to continue with the current file, change the file, or quit. The z: location still has plenty of disk space - more than triple the space needed. It happens with or without the -limit 1 argument. The next day, it may run fine - completes the backup without error. The hardware is a 3.06 GHz Xeon processor with 3 GB of memory, SATA-1 drives on a RAID controller in a RAID-5 array (doing over 400 MB/sec transfer speed on Reads), and the network is 1 Gb. Has anyone noticed that their backup file does not (or did not) grow or exist until the backup is done? Does anyone know of a way to convince uvbackup to use the target file immediately without awaiting completion? Does anyone know if this happens in newer UniVerse releases this same way? Lastly, if d:\uvdb\accounts has a few accounts I don't want to back up, it looks like I cannot skip them in the backup unless I create a file with a list of all of the files I want to back up. This would be several hundred thousand files, and there are new files created every day. And I can't move the accounts I don't care about. I was thinking about SourceForge findutils, but am wondering if someone has experience with this or similar Windows find utilities and uvbackup? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Bob Wyatt ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Simple Masking of Password Input (Universe Basic)
There was nothing in the request about validating the keys entered... So even if a backspace is pressed, throw the *... If there is a desire to test the validity of the character entered (it is within the allowed character range of this password - I.E., alpha-numeric or standard special characters [presumably]), I would probably use the !GET.KEY subroutine and presumably test the key entered against whichever is shorter - valid or invalid keys. If an errant character type is detected, advise the operator accordingly, wipe out the password, and make the operator retype from the beginning. This is not a test of the nth character entered compared to the nth character of the password - just whether the key pressed is valid; if it is valid, output the *. The documentation is a little lacking, but I believe that !GET.KEY does not do any of the limited character handling that KEYIN() will do. However, speedy does not come to mind when I think of everything entailed in doing this; the longer the password required, the less speedy it shall be. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of andy baum Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:09 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Simple Masking of Password Input (Universe Basic) Slight amendment in case your positioned in middle of screen. PASSWD = '' LOOP CHR = KEYIN() UNTIL CHR = CHAR(13) DO BEGIN CASE CASE CHR # CHAR(8) CRT *: PASSWD := CHR CASE PASSWD # '' CRT CHAR(8):' ':CHAR(8): PASSWD = PASSWD[1,LEN(PASSWD)-1] END CASE REPEAT CRT CRT PASSWD Cheers, Andy From: nschroth ngschr...@yahoo.com To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011, 19:51 Subject: [U2] Simple Masking of Password Input (Universe Basic) Does anyone have a simple routine for entering a password and only displaying an asterisk for the character entered? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Simple-Masking-of-Password-Input-%28Universe-Basic%29- tp32274238p32274238.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Rocks
There once was a list called Community Posters avoid it with impunity It makes a spectacular day To see the moderator say This thread is no good In this neighborhood You have the right to be silent Don't accelerate my retirement Please move this to the Community List Let this discussion cease and desist -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Holt, Jake Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:05 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Rocks U2 has an easy learning curve ..? What? MV is a completely foreign concept to most people and I'd wager a large number of DBAs. There is no conceivable way that installing U2, setting up a database, developing an application and presenting it using a technology that's not a dinosaur can be considering easy in comparison to the majority of other databases out there. If you're happy with the current MV market then that's fine, but my original intention in asking the question was to find out if there was really any conceivable reason that NEW users would adopt U2 over another option. If people are happy to just watch it bleed and die that's fine, but if you want the market to grow you're going to have to address some of the issues already brought up. Issues that many other databases addressed a decade ago. Like I said initially, I like U2, I just have no conceivable reason to use it outside our ERP system when I have a number of other options available that are, frankly, better. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:30 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Rocks Rob: This is the U2 list. The developers on this list... like, live, and breathe U2. U2 is a legacy database for in which, over decades, companies have invested in mega-mountains of code. I find it galling when newbies so often expect companies to instantly bail on their colossal stake. Is U2 ever going to be cloud-based? Maybe... maybe not. Although U2 is the UniVersal choice... for fresh new projects, designers may have good reasons to opt for a rival technologies. For add-on projects, U2 has an easy learning curve. I hope that this explanation sheds some new light. --Bill -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ? I have to heartily disagree that U2 has a sophisticated business rules engine. ... -Rob ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Rocks
Tony, I appreciate your comments and opinion... I subscribe to the list for the technical exchange of ideas, and it is my understanding that this is why this particular list exists. u2-users: Technical Discussions related to the U2 product family. Use this list to ask the community for technical help and share useful or technical information of interest to the community. u2-community: General non-technical discussions, including off-topic diversions, should be directed to this list. Asking Why use U2? is the effective equivalent of Paper or Plastic?. At face value, is not a technical discussion; it is an arguable topic that can invoke more emotion than meaningful, worthy, and educational content. You can learn things, not necessarily technical, that make the conversation beneficial; and U2UG has provided a place for such discussions. I'm not saying that there hasn't been some value in the discussion - just that it is largely not technical, and therefore misplaced. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy
My vote is that this pool of excrement we have been swimming in with posts like this needs to stop. They are fruitless, pointless, and have no bearing on technical details or issues in the U2 database realm. In case some need reminders about the purpose of this list and others: u2-users: Technical Discussions related to the U2 product family. Use this list to ask the community for technical help and share useful or technical information of interest to the community. u2-community: General non-technical discussions, including off-topic diversions, should be directed to this list. Please kill this, or move it to Community (which has effectively killed crap like this before)... It's been going on way too long and makes me wonder where the Moderator (Enforcer) has been... In the sincerest hope that this list returns to its roots, Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of fft2...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:44 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy In a message dated 5/4/2011 12:47:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: I doubt you'll ever believe me, until Rocket send you your branded skateboard that is! That's right George. I like action :) At least IBM called me *once* to see if I wanted to renew my license. Not that that wasn't pretty pitiful, but at least it was something. I and others probably thought that Rocket was going to take U2 and take off! and in light of the fact that they didn't even show up at Spectrum... what are we to make of that. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] [UV] Requirements for UO.NET connection?
Anthony/Tony, There are 5 files and 1 directory required that identify a UniVerse account (perhaps for UO.net purposes), or so I am told... And this information may be 10.2 specific... D_VOC VOC D_VOCLIB VOCLIB D_SAVEDLISTS SAVEDLISTS Tony, although you wrote ...moving directories for easier housekeeping..., I think you meant dictionaries. VOCLIB is home to large VOC records or paragraphs, such as most of the LIST-type paragraphs... You could also place restricted verbs, paragraphs, etc. in VOCLIB... The intent is to keep the items in VOC as small as possible for efficiency and performance purposes... Or so the documentation leads one (well, okay, me) to conclude... Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Anthony W. Youngman Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:48 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Requirements for UO.NET connection? In message 2853-61...@sneakemail.com, Tony G 1tlx6h...@sneakemail.com writes Thanks Wol - I've been informed that the issue was due to someone moving directories for easier housekeeping. For some reason D_VOCLIB and VOCLIB (data dir) physically need to be under the root path of the account. It's not enough that the pointers point to the right location. That precludes certain types of creative administration. Oh well. Issue resolved. Ummm That's a useful thing to know! I know that the physical presence of VOC defines the account, and I thought that VOCLIB was an optional file. Why should an optional file have to reside in the actual directory when any other file can exist anywhere? Was the VOCLIB pointer a q-pointer or an f-pointer with absolute paths? Thanks to all for your time. T That's fine. Cheers, Wol -- Anthony W. Youngman pi...@thewolery.demon.co.uk 'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998 Visit the MaVerick web-site - http://www.maverick-dbms.org Open Source Pick --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3766 (20090114) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3766 (20090114) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] uv account
Doug, SYSTEM.ADMIN from TCL should work just fine... Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV 10.2/ AIX question
Doug, IBM recycles 'product line' numbers, so saying that you have a 570 and that's it old doesn't help much... If you do a prtconf | more, the first few lines provide the complete model number, serial number, etc., machine architecture, and OS bit-level (32 or 64), which could then be used to gauge exactly how old the system is and see if there is any benefit to upgrading AIX to 5.3. IBM used to say that on the same p5 platform (your 570 may or may not be p5), upgrading from AIX 5.2 to AIX 5.3 had an inherent performance boost without replacing or upgrading any hardware. Another benefit to upgrading to AIX 5.3 is that, with the advent of AIX 6.1, AIX 5.2 is now on the short road for support longevity (although I haven't recently looked it up) without paying an additional charge. Lastly, keeping up with AIX as you keep up with UniVerse makes sense, IMHO. I don't know that I want to go to 6.1 as yet, though; last time I checked the matrix, UniVerse 10.2 still wasn't 'ported' or supported on AIX 6.1. Regards, Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doug chanco Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:12 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV 10.2/ AIX question I see from the product matrix on IBM's web site that we should be able to run 10.2.x on AIX 5.2 (yes I know its kinda old) is anyone aware of any specific UV (or AIX) reasons that we would want to upgrade to 5.3 before installing UV 10.2.x? We NEED to upgrade I am just wondering if we HAVE to upgrade or if there is a compelling reason to upgrade the OS related to UV 10.2 the system is a 570 (yep its old too) thanks all, dougc --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Unidata PE
Yes, it is. Review the kernel notes from the availability matrix. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Butera Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 14:11 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Unidata PE Is Unidata available for 64-bit RedHat? I see that PE is not, and needed to run a test on a 64-bit server... Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-559-5556 Working with them is like going to Las Vegas: sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. Dan Parker --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Problem with the digest?
One for one today... Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Zip File For UniData Documentation
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/ Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] U2 University New York [not-secure]
I'll be there... Regards, Bob Wyatt With all of the talk about San Fran, I was wondering if anyone is planning on attending the Tarrytown, NY campus? Mark Hennessey --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
http://ebn.benefitnews.com/asset/article/163509/compliance/new-york-workers- comp-rule-impacts.html This confirms David's research (independently)... I also called the Worker's Compensation Board, and received the same answer as David. Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
This is incorrect, per my research... If the convention or conference had a duration of 30 days or more, yes... Please refer to http://www.wcb.state.ny.us/content/main/Small_Business/outOfStateEmp_compLaw .jsp Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:05 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... But I just found out that if any Employee is 'working' in New York, you have to have a New York Workers Comp policy. This is a new ruling, and I just called Albany compliance (866-298-7830) to find out if attending a conference 'counts' as employment duties/working. And they said yes. So - I for one will not be able to be attending since I'm not going to add New York Workers Comp to attend a conference! And I thought it should be 'known' that if you are attending as an 'employee' or sending an 'employee', you may want to find out if you need to have a New York Workers Comp policy in place. Hope I can make the California show now!! David W. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
My previous post applies to disability insurance, and may not apply to Workers Compensation... Sorry for any confusion this may have caused... Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] resolving udt error message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christensen, Steve Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 17:30 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] resolving udt error message Can anyone clue me in on how to resolve this error (step-by-step)? When going to the command prompt and starting udt I receive the following error: UniData Release 5.1 Build: (2189) Copyright (C) Ardent Software, Inc. (USA) 1998 All rights reserved. Current UniData home is e:\unidata\ud51\. Current working directory is E:\JENKON\SV\AMI_SQL. Warning: global CTLGTB file path(VOC pointer file) is different than current Unidata home path, cannot global CATALOG/MAP in this udt session. : This is an install of an existing system onto new servers and I am trying to clear up the command line issues. Thanks for any insight you may have on this. Steve, This is because the VOC pointer for CTLGTB is not pointing to a CTLGTB file or directory beneath the sys directory in e:\unidata\ud51; it is pointing elsewhere. UniData expects CTLGTB to exist in e:\unidata\ud51\sys; your VOC entry should have e:\unidata\ud51\sys\CTLGTB in field 2, with e:\unidata\ud51\sys\D_CTLGTB in field 3. CTLGTB will not be the only afflicted file in the VOC; there are 5 or 6, maybe more (depending on the features you use). It does not prevent you from accessing ECL in UniData, so you should be able to search your VOC for the 'old' UniData home directory and affected file pointers, then use an editor to change the 'old' UniData home directory to the new. Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] User Groups
In the mean time, attend U2 University coming up this fall in Terrytown. I'll be there speaking on HW, O/S the U2 Data Servers. Worth every penny of the $850 tuition. http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/u2/university/index.jsp Stephen, Gee, just getting to (finally) meet Wally was worth the trip. You may have just turned it into a bargain! Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] User Groups
Is anyone aware of any active user groups operating within 100 miles of Philadelphia? This narrows it down to the NY/Baltimore corridor? Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Unidata 7.1 system requirements
We are upgrading to Unidata 7.1, with Window Server 2003 and purchasing a new server. I would be interested in opinions on hardware specifications from the group. Thanks, Michael Martin Michael, Insufficient data. Number of users? Size of database? Redundancy desired? Ratio of reads to writes today? Anticipated growth? Expected server longevity? Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Unidata 7.1 system requirements
Number of users?40 user Size of database? 21 Gig in Live Realm / 75 gig all Realms / Live Realm gets 99% of activity. Redundancy desired? RAID 5 or HP's RAID 6 Ratio of reads to writes today? 3/2 READ/WRITE Anticipated growth? 30% a year Expected server longevity? 3 to 7 years Michael Martin Michael, If it were me, I'd be looking at 2 - 4 GB of memory, today. If it were me, I'd be looking at about 300GB of disk capacity in a RAID-5 configuration (at the 3-year mark and at 30% growth per year, I need no less than 165 GB, not including parity). RAID-5 has two writes per database write; RAID-6 has three. I'm not of the opinion that it provides an additional level of protection worthy of that performance hit. There have been other posts regarding OS limitations, so I shall not offer my opinion there. As the server approaches it's second anniversary, I would be budgeting additional monies for an upgrade (not a replacement, but add more disk and memory) during it's third year. If it's a one-shot deal, then I'd shoot for 8 GB of memory, an OS that'll let me use it, a multi-core processor, and no less than 800 GB of storage (7 years of 30% growth has me near 500 GB, sans parity). Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] {Blocked Content} Moderation
Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (not named). Warning: Please read the AngelicHost-Attachment-Warning.txt attachment(s) for more information. Charles, I think you have the answer already... topics moved to community die, albeit gracelessly... I have no idea what the subscription numbers are for community verses this list, but most of us lack the time or inclination to participate in the majority of the 'diatribe' (my word choice) that might otherwise occur in the community list. This list is comprised of users, administrators, VAR's, and IBM'ers... It isn't reasonable to expect that a user, administrator, VAR, or IBM with a homemade script, derived or created solution, a different approach that solved the issue, etc. would give away their knowledge or work for free, although many may be willing. If the 'solution; addresses the needs of a poster, and it isn't a 'blatant' ad, I see no reason to restrict whom may reply, or that the Subject line be amended to reflect 'Ad'. Some of us may even mention products that are not ours to sell, and we aren't required to change the subject to 'Ad'. The only change in moderation I'd like to see is that, if it is known that sending a topic to community sends it to its (perhaps) untimely death, but there is technical merit to continuing the conversation, don't move it. Eventually, the topic will die it's own death; there may, however, be a chance that someone writes something that someone else finds enlightening. Not many, but there has been a topic or two that I thought was banished prematurely, and I wasn't about to subscribe to community to find out 'how it ended'. Regards, Bob Wyatt This is a message from the MailScanner E-Mail Virus Protection Service -- The original e-mail attachment winmail.dat was believed to be infected by a virus and has been replaced by this warning message. If you wish to receive a copy of the *infected* attachment, please e-mail helpdesk and include the whole of this message in your request. Alternatively, you can call them, with the contents of this message to hand when you call. At Tue Sep 11 10:41:58 2007 the virus scanner said: Could not parse Outlook Rich Text attachment Note to Help Desk: Look on the AngelicHost MailScanner in /home/virtual/site2/fst/var/spool/mail.quarantine/20070911 (message l8BHfrlD012967). -- Postmaster MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Moderation
Charles, I think you have the answer already. topics moved to community die, albeit gracelessly. I have no idea what the subscription numbers are for community verses this list, but most of us lack the time or inclination to participate in the majority of the 'diatribe' (my word choice) that might otherwise occur in the community list. This list is comprised of users, administrators, VAR's, and IBM'ers. It isn't reasonable to expect that a user, administrator, VAR, or IBM with a homemade script, derived or created solution, a different approach that solved the issue, etc. would give away their knowledge or work for free, although many may be willing. If the 'solution; addresses the needs of a poster, and it isn't a 'blatant' ad, I see no reason to restrict whom may reply, or that the Subject line be amended to reflect 'Ad'. Some of us may even mention products that are not ours to sell, and we aren't required to change the subject to 'Ad'. The only change in moderation I'd like to see is that, if it is known that sending a topic to community sends it to its (perhaps) untimely death, but there is technical merit to continuing the conversation, don't move it. Eventually, the topic will die it's own death; there may, however, be a chance that someone writes something that someone else finds enlightening. Not many, but there has been a topic or two that I thought was banished prematurely, and I wasn't about to subscribe to community to find out 'how it ended'. Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] AIX Argument list too long
Does anyone know: 1. what I'm talking about and what causes it? Commands like rm have what appears to be (not a scientific analysis, and if memory serves) an 8K name space limit, including delimiters... 2. how to solve this through some tunable parameter, preferrably not requiring a kernel rebuild? Don't know of one, but neither have I looked; the options that I would use depend upon how you are parsing the directory. If you are using the UNIX find command, you could exec rm if your test is true, which would delete one file at a time as they are encountered; alternatively, you could dump the list to a file, and do a for... command in AIX to delete the files, one at a time in a loop. I'm sure there are other options; these are the two I use most often, which are usually scripted so that, in the latter case, the file I created with the list of files to be deleted is also deleted. Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 and ODBC
Jeff, This is an indication that the connection isn't defined correctly... Have you tried the IP address of quicksilver.hampshire.edu instead of the fully resolved host name? Have you verified that there is VOC file in the defined PATH to the account? Have you verified that the destination account is set up for ODBC? Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Butera Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 08:59 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UniData 7.1 and ODBC I'm having some basic trouble getting ODBC setup with Unidata. In Developing UniData ODBC Applications under Before You Begin it says: * Make sure the files you want to access in UniData are ODBC/SQL accesible. See Using VSG and the Schema API Yet in Using VSG and the Schema API under Before You Begin it says: * Setup your ODBC server and database information so that the files are accesible to VSG. Here's what I tried and isn't working too well. I edited uci.config file and added the entry testr18 DBMSTYPE = UNIDATA network = TCP/IP service = udserver host = quicksilver.hampshire.edu account = /datatel/coll18/test/apphome When I attempt to run VSG, I see my testr18 definition in the server drop-down, and then enter: Database Name: testr18 User: my_username Password: my_password and get: Died in UCI::SQLConnect() with SQLSTATE 08001, Native error: 0 [IBM][SQL Client][UNIDATA] Database testr18 doesn't exist. Any pointers appreciated. -- Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-559-5556 Daddy - did you lose your mind? Catherine Butera --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance
I may or may not... I have typically found the O'Reilly 'UNIX in a Nutshell' book short on material for the flavor of UNIX that I am working with that day. It certainly isn't intended to be a comprehensive guide, but by the same token, I can't find commands for a particular flavor that I know exist and are cross-platform. I fear the same would be true of a Multi-Value Database guide... Even if the scope were more narrowed to 'U2', I'd really be afraid that the information needed to adequately differentiate functionality in UniData from UniVerse would leave me wanting more. And that puts me back to where I am with the IBM documentation - wanting more specifics, examples, explanations, and without omitting valid command options. There's nothing more irritating than being told on a support call 'Oh yea, that would be the -zoo option', which cannot be found anywhere in any documentation produced by the vendor (IBM does not stand alone in this regard, unfortunately)... If Wally and Leroy co-conspired on such a thorough guide, I'd buy it, even though its scope would be limited to the U2 Multi-Value family. Regards, Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kubarych Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:27 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance I would pony up for a U2 book. Robert K. Kubarych Network Services Bergen Community College CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George R Smith Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance Lets see I just spent 50.00 for a book on ajax, 80 for a book on real estate accounting, 50 for a book on netbeans. Of course, I would spend money on a book about Pick/U2/mvBasic on Cache. I WOULD however exclude one author even if they gave the book away - so let us see the authors first. george -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Barouch Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:58 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] UniData 7.1 vs. MS SQL 2005 performance Robert, There is a firmly held belief that if books were available, that we, as a group, are too cheap to buy them. Clif Oliver (who ran this list for 9 years) used to edit a Pick series of O'Reilly. When I contacted Tim O'Reilly about a year ago, proposing new MV books, he said that he'd love to, but he can't afford to lose that kind of money. If you want books, we need to commit to publishers. I'm sure Brian would be willing to put up a sign-up sheet on U2UG.org, so we can submit a list of people who promise to buy at least one copy if a publisher will print a new book. I think a pre-order of 1K copies would get us some traction. Are we willing to spend $15 to $50 a piece for a new U2 book? I don't think they'll have trouble finding willing writers. -- Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Consulting (718) 762-3884x1 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Utilities for Pick-type to UniData-type (ODBC) Dictionary 'Conversions'
Does anyone know of, have, use, or be willing to share a utility that 'converts' old-style PICK-type Virtual and I-descriptors in UniData to legal ODBC/UniData descriptors? For example, changing Tfilename;X;n;m functions to TRANS and like conversions. I am in the process of opening up hundreds of files to ODBC; before reinventing the wheel, just checking to see if the wheel has already been made. I did not see such a utility on pickwiki. If such a utility is for sale, that would be good to know as well. Feel free to contact me off-list if you are more comfortable doing so.. Regards, Bob Wyatt Private E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] VMS Migration
Tom, In AIX 5.1, tar won't work on files larger than 2 GB: The tar command is not enabled for files greater than 2 Gig in size due to limitations imposed by XPG/4 and POSIX.2 standards From the AIX 5.1 Command Reference manual... Regards, Bob Wyatt We are migrating to AIX 5.1 with UniData 7.1.8 We seem to be having problems trying to tar large files within large directories. Thanks for any help Tom Dodds InformCorp, LLC Information for Corporations --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Launching UV via HP-Ux
Instead of the uv in the second example, do ./uv... This is a standard part of built-in UNIX security... Also, the exec shields the users from the UNIX shell (or protects the shell from the users, depending on your point of view)... They run UniVerse, and they are immediately logged out... Regards, Bob Wyatt 1. Why do I have to do the command... #exec /usr/ibm/uv/bin/uv 2. Why does it not work when doing... #cd /usr/ibm/uv/bin #uv sh: uv: not found. # 3. Is there a batch command that will work? --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] USERS verb
Are you running AIX? If not, please disregard... cd `cat /.uvhome`/bin mv usrs usrs_040907 cp usrs.AIX5 usrs Regards, Bob Wyatt In early release of UV 10 on AIX the USERS verb stopped working always returning zero.. A fix involved copying a UNIX command. Can someone remind me? Thanks Roy C. Beard --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] UniData 7.1.8-64, ODBC, and Excel
I am starting to work with ODBC and Excel database queries. ultimately, I need to get a data warehousing application to acquire the desired data via ODBC. I have a file that has 55 attributes in it, but 750 dictionary records. I created a 'clean' dictionary file with a cleansed dictionary of the items I want, and the data section points to the true data file. Not all fields are referenced. for example, I want attributes 0-5, 12-17, 32-48, and a few virtual fields, such as getting the name of the customer from another file. Everything in VSG comes up fine; I can see all of the dictionary records I want, and I add them to the table view and save the view. When I do the database query from Excel, it only offers to import fields 0-5; none of the other defined fields in the view are in the list. When I fire up the data warehousing application and do the ODBC SELECT, it also only finds fields 0-5, and none of the other fields. I haven't found anything in the UniData documentation that helps me figure out why. Do I need all of the fields defined contiguously (0 - 55)? Any help is appreciated! Regards, Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [Spam-Low] RE: [U2] Help with File Pointers
Re: Susan, You can execute an ls -i for each path (ls -i ../../blahblah). This returns the inode for the file. If the inode is the same, the files are the same (one inode for each file). Lee H. Burstein Lee, this is on face value okay, but technically wrong; there is a chance that filea in file system x has the same inode as fileb in file system y share the same inode number. I wouldn't want to calculate those odds or chances, but ... Inode numbers are assigned per file system, I believe... Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniData 6.1.15
Thank you Colin for these suggestions... They certainly work better than either of the samples I sent in the request, and therefore may become a suitable work-around... I do note, though, that it repeats information that I typically hadn't seen before, such as: A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 134.90 101.17 A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 24.44 18.32 A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 37.64 28.22 A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 12.22 9.16 ** -- -- 04 209.20 156.87 In previous reports, everything prior to VAL in the example is only printed on the first line (for the first value), not for each multi-value... Am I missing something else? Thanks again! Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 08:53 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UniData 6.1.15 Bob; In 6 you need MV and in 7 you need the name of a linking dictionary for reporting to work properly on a multi-valued field. The linking dictionary needs to be set up like: PLINE_LINK 001: PH 002: PLINE PROD-SUB PROD-COST All the dicts in 2 need to have PLINE_LINK in 7. That should get everything printing properly again. Hth Colin Alfke Calgary Canada --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] UniData 6.1.15
Doing a sort from ECL/TCL, ECL Type P Have a field that is a straight D-type dictionary item, multi-valued PLINE 001: D 002: 6 003: 004: 005: 6R 006: 007: 008: VARCHAR2 009: 010: A!6!!!L!6 011: 012: }} Value Type (6) is blank on purpose for this email If I do SORT FILE WITH 26 OR WITH NO MATCH BY TYPE BY 26 BY L BY-EXP PLINE BY INV_n_ ID-SUPP BREAK-ON TYPE 'P' BREAK-ON 26 BREAK-ON L INV-DATE CUST CUST-NAME ORDER-NBR WHSE BREAK-ON PLINE TOTAL PROD-SUB TOTAL PROD-COST GRAND-TOTAL TOTALS FOR MY LITTLE SHOP CO., INC. HEADING 'C'MY LITTLE SHOP CO., INC. 'LC'NOT-SO-LITTLE MONTH-END REPORT AS OF 'D' 'L'PAGE 'PL' A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 134.90 101.17 04 24.44 18.32 04 37.64 28.22 04 12.22 9.16 ** -- -- 04 209.20 156.87 04 04 04 If I change the dictionary item field 6 to M, then the report changes to: A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 134.90 101.17 24.44 18.32 37.64 28.22 12.22 9.16 A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 134.90 101.17 24.44 18.32 37.64 28.22 12.22 9.16 A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 134.90 101.17 24.44 18.32 37.64 28.22 12.22 9.16 A 11/17/2006 123456 SOME COMPANY NA 432529VAL 04 134.90 101.17 24.44 18.32 37.64 28.22 12.22 9.16 ** -- -- 04 836.80 627.48 The total from the first display is correct, although the display is incorrect by repeating the 04 3 more times after the total In the second, it reports the same company 4 times, and each time entails all 4 multivalues I should mention this was working, and I/we have no idea what changed to break it What simple thing have I missed Bob Wyatt --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Integration of UniVerse with Microsoft Team System [not-secure] 2005 {Unclassified}
You are not alone...
Regards,
Bob Wyatt
Ashwood Computer, Inc.
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Am I the only one who has received this message three times?
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2005 {Unclassified}
Kevin
Absolutely agreed: dictionaries have a strange place in the MV world
since
they can be user defined for a useful report, but changes might screw up
a
selection required for a program. Which, as we all know, can be bad bad
BAD.
My approach has been to make everything 'source'. Rather than create
dictionaries directly (urgh) I create a simple script to define one or
more
files - a bit like CREATE TABLE but just for regular files. An example
might
look like this:
BEGIN TABLE BOOK_TITLES
SUBJECT Audio Book Titles
FIELD TITLE_ID FNO 0 NUMERIC
FIELD SHORT_TITLE FNO 1 LEN 30
FIELD UTITLE FNO 1 LEN 30 CONV MCU
(etc)
FIELD PRICE FNO 6 MONEY
ENDDEFN
BEGIN TABLE BOOK_SALES
...
FIELD TITLE_ID FNO 10 NUMERIC MVED
FIELD QTY FNO 11 NUMERIC MVED DEPENDS TITLE_ID
...
FIELD LINE_TOTAL EXPR \QTY * PRICE\ MONEY MVED DEPENDS TITLE_ID
...
ENDDEFN
I then have a very simple program that parses this and builds the
dictionaries accordingly.
Why?
So that I can put the script into source control, and handle it just
like
any other source item, and easily rebuild the dictionaries by running
the
scripts again.
I can also version stamp the script along with the rest of my source
code.
I've recently written an article for Spectrum on version stamping
(should be
in this issue but I haven't got a copy yet!). Version stamping is one of
those critical client/server things - ensuring that the right version of
the
client is talking to the right version of the server.
There's no point getting the client side right in terms of version
management, and then forgetting the server.
Which leads on to a shameless plug ...
shameless advert
My mvInstaller program builds setups for deploying multivalue
applications.
One of my clients is using it to handle rollouts to 250 (that's right)
servers in a distributed system. It is based on the installer I wrote at
MMT
- that saved me more time than anything else in terms of QA as well as
deployment. It supports windows and server based installations, creates
files, installs data and programs, executes commands and runs
subroutines:
and amongst its many useful features the installations can be version
sensitive.
And the setup definitions are scripts, so they can be version managed.
If you're building windows setups for the client, don't forget the
server.
Read more on my website: www.[removethis]brianleach.co.uk
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Brian
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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Integration of UniVerse with Microsoft Team
System 2005 {Unclassified}
Really, couldn't it be also argued that - along with what
Clif has mentioned - that ALL dictionaries - even phrases -
are code to be under control as well, not just I-descriptors.
If a dictionary changes, things could get ugly.
-Kevin
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[U2] EXECUTE in udcs Sessions (UniData)
We have UniData 6.1.15 running atop AIX 5.2. When a user has connected via the web and udcs, and runs applications that do EXECUTE, the executed process is being run as root, not the user running the application. This creates havoc when running UNIX scripts that rely upon the users name to complete certain tasks. Has anyone run into this, and what was your solution? Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. Private E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Inhibit UV startup on AIX
Lee, What is leading you to conclude that UniVerse is the cause of the 'hanging console'? If it is still starting, then there has to be a second (or more) reference to a script that starts UniVerse, perhaps from another startup script? We have a site with 10.1.xx on AIX 5.3, and /etc/uv.rc is far more detailed than uv -admin -start... so I definitely suspect there is a second reference on boot to start UniVerse... I suspect that you'll still end up with the problem after your upgrade... And I suspect that you'll end up looking at the scripts called from the inittab file that aren't 'standard AIX' for additional references to commands or subsequent scripts to start UniVerse. Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Bacall /Moley 888 Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 00:51 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Inhibit UV startup on AIX Bob, thanks - I had commented out the command in etc/inittab that refers to uv.rc, prior to your response, but uv still started up. After changing ownership of uv.rc (write protected -r-xr--r--), I modified it as you suggested, however things are still hanging on boot at the console. With exit 0 at the top of the uv.rc file, uv can not start. Removing the exit 0, will again enable uv -admin -start I am expecting an upgrade to uv 10.2.0 in the next couple of days, and will re-install and make certain that the configuration will not auto-start uv, as somehow it is disabling the console port. If anyone has any other insights that might shed some light on this issue, please respond. I will report on what I find after installing 10.2.0 Thanks Lee Bacall binarystar.com NuWiki.com - Collaborative Information Management - Original Message - From: Bob Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: RE: [U2] Inhibit UV startup on AIX Insert 'exit 0' at the top of the /etc/uv.rc file... Or see if there is an entry in the /etc/inittab file that refers to /etc/uv.rc and comment it out accordingly... Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Bacall /Moley 888 Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 22:09 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Inhibit UV startup on AIX Does anyone know how to inhibit starting UniVerse 10.1.2 on AIX 5.2.4? Thanks Lee Bacall binarystar.com NuWiki.com - Collaborative Information Management --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Inhibit UV startup on AIX
Insert 'exit 0' at the top of the /etc/uv.rc file... Or see if there is an entry in the /etc/inittab file that refers to /etc/uv.rc and comment it out accordingly... Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Bacall /Moley 888 Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 22:09 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Inhibit UV startup on AIX Does anyone know how to inhibit starting UniVerse 10.1.2 on AIX 5.2.4? Thanks Lee Bacall binarystar.com NuWiki.com - Collaborative Information Management --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UD] Compilation Failed...
Mark Johnson can tell a story (well, another story) about UniData doing the same thing; UniData 5.1, to be exact. Mark and I worked on that for quite some time before Mark just gave up and left the useless stuff in there to make the program work. At least, to the best of my recollection, that was how it was handled in the end. I worked with the support team (UniData/Ardent/Informix) in place at that time; it wasn't readily reproducible, and there never was a fix (at least, that I knew of). Regards, Bob Wyatt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:20 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] Compilation Failed... I have a wild one for you. In Universe, not Unidata, twice I've had programs that would not compile properly. I found that if I added a statement to the source code then it would compile. It doesn't matter what the statement is as long as it affected memory usage. These two times, I just added the line Z=JUNK MESSAGE and that fixed whatever the compiler was doing. But you already have a fix. You've copied the program so delete the original and rename the copy to the originals filename. YMMV, BobW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:22 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] Compilation Failed... Well ... It does not appear to be TEMP related... Example: TESTBASIC BP IMPORT.CLIENTS Compiling Unibasic: \STUFFHERE\BP\IMPORT.CLIENTS in mode 'p'. compilation failed TESTCOPY BP IMPORT.CLIENTS TO: TESTING2 1 records copied TESTBASIC BP TESTING2 Compiling Unibasic: \STUFFHERE\BP\TESTING2 in mode 'p'. compilation finished SO... I cannot compile the EXISTING program, but if I copy the source it to a new name, I **CAN** compile it. So there is some permissions settings on the EXISTING object code (_progname) file that is the issue -- the problem is figuring out what. I guess I'll just have the user compare the security of the two object codes to see what is different - as bad as I hate that! If this extra information rings bells, please let me know... David W. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] Compilation Failed... Where do you have TMP pointing to? There is a default for TMP in udtconfig. In UNIX the default can be overridden by setting the environment variable TMP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [UD] Compilation Failed... I am at a client site today... Oddest thing - UniData 7.1.6 on Windows One sign on can compile - all is well. Another one cannot - it looks like it is compiling, but always ends with 'compilation failed' - No line number errors, nothing to give me a direction -- I compile the same program using a different signon and it works... So I know it's security reasons... I can write to the VOC, and to the BP -- what permission magic shouild I ask the user to fix for me? Where else must I need access to do a 'compile'? This is the first time I've run into this one! Thanks - David W. === Sunset Programming, Inc. Developing Today for a Productive Tomorrow P 214.337.8204 F 469.442.1368 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] === CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, and any accompanying documents, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, distribution or copying is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact our office by email or by telephone at (214) 337-8204 and immediately destroy all copies of the original message. === --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV 10.2 has been (announced) released
IBM told me very recently that this would be resolved in the next couple of days... Regards, Bob Wyatt Integration/Support Analyst Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Meij Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 05:35 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UV 10.2 has been (announced) released Hi, Has anybody been able to find the complete releasenotes (+ new docs) for this new version? Regards, Andre Meij -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hennessey, Mark F. Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:56 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV 10.2 has been announced Did everyone get their marketing-gram from Janet Oswald? --- We are pleased to announce that IBM UniVerse. 10.2 will be generally available on September 29, 2006. This release protects personal data, supports U2 Web Services, strengthens and streamlines high availability, and more! Read the full product announcement at http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/universe10-2.html If you have any questions on the information, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- It appears that the product availability page has not been updated yet Mark Hennessey --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
