Will,

If the instructions were copyrighted, it would be.
And I can say that when you work as a member of a team (and I think all of
the members in this group are a part of a team), it isn't regarded as
"professional" or "classy" when one takes another's initial work and
modifies, alters, expands, or reduces it without consent and approval from
the originator.
After all, why would documentation be any different than the end result of
your daily programming or solution-providing labor?

Bob Wyatt  

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They are not clear enough.
You can't step on anyone by giving instructions.  There's no copyright
preventing anyone else from making up other instructions.



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Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 12:02 pm
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Rex does have some documentation on u2pipe, but, I have not looked at it in
while.
I could write up the php/apache stuff pretty easy and make it nooby proof,
UT, I haven't done that because it was not my idea, and I don't want to
illegally" step on Kevin.
However, I did write up complete instructions on how to install Apache on IX
5.3 if anyone needs that.
 have to write things down because my limited brain power often forgets.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Wjhonson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
 The problem I see is that telling people that they could make free beer,
is quite different in practice from making free beer.

 I know that Tony feels like people should just get smarter, but I'm not
the only one who has pointed out that there simply are no good install
manuals for any of the various free options.  Yes there are installation
instructions, but they quickly spiral off into the level of geek speak that
you have to already know, in order to understand.  At which point most
people give up.



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 From: Symeon Breen <[email protected]>
 To: 'U2 Users List' <[email protected]>
 Sent: Fri, Dec 2, 2011 11:52 am
 Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection


 The benefit of using any http server , iis, cassini, apache etc, is its
hole multiplexing functionality, which to do well is not trivial. Iis is
lso very integrated into the OS, the whole http layer is in fact inside the
s, as opposed to being an application on top of the os. So it makes sense  n
many ways.
 And if you want to use .net (of which I am a big fan) and you don't have to
se linux then why use mono ? Contrary to what many people believe Visual
tudio, .net, MS Sql are all free (as in beer) for development/small and
edium scale  deployment.

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 rom: [email protected]
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 ent: 02 December 2011 18:24
 o: [email protected]
 ubject: Re: [U2] Unidata 7.1 Unresponsive UO Connection  For reference,
it's a widespread myth that you need IIS to do web services  r other website
integration with Windows.  That's simply not so.  IIS is an  pplication that
provides many services including authentication, memory  anagement, process
allocation, routing, logging, and many others.  If "all
  want is a pipe into my daatabase" then you can easily run a Windows
ervice that's listening to a socket which will do whatever you want.  You
ust won't get all of those other services.
 Now, in response to not needing Windows Server, I try to avoid discussions
n religion.  ;)  Seriously, if you like like the ASP.NET model, just not
indows or Microsoft, look into Mono
 FOSS) where you can run your code in Windows or Linux, just like Java.  Or
slightly more practical) run a Windows 7 or XP guest in a virtual machine
ver Linux.  It's just another application, about 400MB of overhead, and
houldn't require much maintenance unless you're doing other things with it.
 f course these aren't solutions for the masses but for some sites these
olutions could be ideal in comparison with others.  YMMV  T

  From: John Thompson
  I do remember playing with this a few years ago, but, at the time I
  wasn't "smart" enough to make it work. I did like the fact that it did
  not need IIS, or Windows Server to work :)

  Rex Gozar wrote:
  > My u2pipe has been available on PickWiki since 2006.
  > If can be used with PHP, ColdFusion, ASP.NET, raw sockets, etc.
  > http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?U2pipe
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