Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
I'm providing notes about XAdmin since we're here. Bottom line, it's working fine. I installed the DBTools but originally put them under: C:\Program Files\Rocket Software\U2\U2Tools The first startup failed, saying I should look for a log under U2Tools\v3. That log wasn't there. I suspect a W7 permissions issue and figured this is why the installer wanted to install under the c:\U2 directory in the first place. But after so many years isn't it clear yet that products should be installed under Program Files, not root, and that should be written to %AppData% (different for W7/XP, etc)? I uninstalled but the Program Files tree remained. Apparently the uninstall doesn't remove the JRE6 that it installed. OK, that's another issue. First, why not mandate the JRE get installed into a common location first? Second, if you're going to install software, uninstall it too. I put my second installation under C:\Databases\U2\U2Tools, since I have all of my databases in that tree as well. On startup I did get the XAdmin. Yay. I created a Server reference and attempted to Connect, got error 39202. Recognized this as an RPC error and ... oops, I had shutdown Universe. Start services, got connect. Yay. On first connect got message that the Server programs are out-of-date with option to update XTOOLSUB to v3.100.0. Click OK. Wait. Nothing. Is something happening? Guess not. Move on. Open Tasks/Network Services to change telnet/ssh ports (avoid conflicts with other MV products). Change my Universe service to use the new telnet port for debugging. Now set Windows Firewall to allow the new ports. Connect in from outside. Yay! I hope that helps someone (whether U2Tools developers or fellow users). Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products Worldwide, and provides related development services Remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit http://PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno http://groups.google.com/group/mvdbms/about From: Daniel McGrath Hi Tony, We are aware of the delta in functionality between UniAdmin and XAdmin. This delta is addressed in our upcoming U2 DBTools for which you won't have long to wait. For anyone using UniAdmin, I encourage you to keep a look out for this release and check out XAdmin. We are always looking for customer feedback on our products. Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
Tony, When I had to install U2 (Unidata stuff) after some years of not using on a Win7 machine (although it's not specifically related to Win7) I tried to install some stuff under the traditional C:\Program Files (x86) instead of the default c:\u2 and ran into the same issues Tony did. In this day and age U2 needs start to understand spaces in paths, etc. and Windows standards. I hate having to specify rogue program files outside the windows standard location for such data (i.e. C:\Program Files [x86]\ in my backup plan. [end rant]. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 7:44 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin? I'm providing notes about XAdmin since we're here. Bottom line, it's working fine. I installed the DBTools but originally put them under: C:\Program Files\Rocket Software\U2\U2Tools The first startup failed, saying I should look for a log under U2Tools\v3. That log wasn't there. I suspect a W7 permissions issue and figured this is why the installer wanted to install under the c:\U2 directory in the first place. But after so many years isn't it clear yet that products should be installed under Program Files, not root, and that should be written to %AppData% (different for W7/XP, etc)? I uninstalled but the Program Files tree remained. Apparently the uninstall doesn't remove the JRE6 that it installed. OK, that's another issue. First, why not mandate the JRE get installed into a common location first? Second, if you're going to install software, uninstall it too. I put my second installation under C:\Databases\U2\U2Tools, since I have all of my databases in that tree as well. On startup I did get the XAdmin. Yay. I created a Server reference and attempted to Connect, got error 39202. Recognized this as an RPC error and ... oops, I had shutdown Universe. Start services, got connect. Yay. On first connect got message that the Server programs are out-of-date with option to update XTOOLSUB to v3.100.0. Click OK. Wait. Nothing. Is something happening? Guess not. Move on. Open Tasks/Network Services to change telnet/ssh ports (avoid conflicts with other MV products). Change my Universe service to use the new telnet port for debugging. Now set Windows Firewall to allow the new ports. Connect in from outside. Yay! I hope that helps someone (whether U2Tools developers or fellow users). Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products Worldwide, and provides related development services Remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog Visit http://PickWiki.com! Contribute! http://Twitter.com/TonyGravagno http://groups.google.com/group/mvdbms/about From: Daniel McGrath Hi Tony, We are aware of the delta in functionality between UniAdmin and XAdmin. This delta is addressed in our upcoming U2 DBTools for which you won't have long to wait. For anyone using UniAdmin, I encourage you to keep a look out for this release and check out XAdmin. We are always looking for customer feedback on our products. Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
I thought the new U2 DB Tools includes the extensible admin tool, built on eclipse. I have downloaded the package but not installed to confirm. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 10:36 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin? I am re-installing Universe and Unidata from scratch with the very latest 'everything'. The latest (?) Universe installation guide (October 2010 for v11.1) says The UniVerse Clients CD-ROM contains the following client software for use with Windows servers. The most recent (?) client and DBTools downloads from Rocket don't seem to include UniAdmin: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/products/u2-clients-and-db-tools/u2-r esources So where is it these days for Universe and Unidata? Thanks! T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1EfhESO4BU/4QyfMTGezeH3YBeHlxXACb/0 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
Hi Tony: XAdmin is in the U2BDT_JAN2012 directory. It is, of course, Eclipse based. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
Yea, well when I installed the xAdmin product it didn't do most things UniAdmin did. So I had to keep the old UniAdmin in order to manage U2 servers. Not sure what xAdmin does now but it was pretty useless back in June of 2011. :-( Bill - Original Message - *From:* gregor.sc...@pentanasolutions.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 3/1/2012 4:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin? I thought the new U2 DB Tools includes the extensible admin tool, built on eclipse. I have downloaded the package but not installed to confirm. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 10:36 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin? I am re-installing Universe and Unidata from scratch with the very latest 'everything'. The latest (?) Universe installation guide (October 2010 for v11.1) says The UniVerse Clients CD-ROM contains the following client software for use with Windows servers. The most recent (?) client and DBTools downloads from Rocket don't seem to include UniAdmin: http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/products/u2-clients-and-db-tools/u2-r esources So where is it these days for Universe and Unidata? Thanks! T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1EfhESO4BU/4QyfMTGezeH3YBeHlxXACb/0 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
From: Bill Haskett Yea, well when I installed the xAdmin product it didn't do most things UniAdmin did. So I had to keep the old UniAdmin in order to manage U2 servers. Not sure what xAdmin does now but it was pretty useless back in June of 2011. :-( I did see XAdmin in DBTools but didn't load it to see what it did. (Not sure that deserves a forehead slap but I'll take it.) I don't see Eclipse as an application Deployment environment but as an app Development environment. So I figured it was something completely different. (Note to Rocket engineering/marketing/doc people: you might want to get some feel for whether this is a common perception.) I didn't know UniAdmin was withdrawn as soon as XAdmin was introduced. Very few companies do that for exactly the reason Bill cited. I have the original UniAdmin from my prior install media and the question is answered. So now before I install, the questions are: How well does XAdmin replace UniAdmin? How fast is Rocket working to bring back lost functionality? Can XAdmin and UniAdmin be run in the same environment? Is there any good resource for answers to these and related questions? (Always looking to learn where to fish rather than asking for fish...) Thanks! T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
Hi Tony, We are aware of the delta in functionality between UniAdmin and XAdmin. This delta is addressed in our upcoming U2 DBTools for which you won't have long to wait. For anyone using UniAdmin, I encourage you to keep a look out for this release and check out XAdmin. We are always looking for customer feedback on our products. Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:20 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin? From: Bill Haskett Yea, well when I installed the xAdmin product it didn't do most things UniAdmin did. So I had to keep the old UniAdmin in order to manage U2 servers. Not sure what xAdmin does now but it was pretty useless back in June of 2011. :-( I did see XAdmin in DBTools but didn't load it to see what it did. (Not sure that deserves a forehead slap but I'll take it.) I don't see Eclipse as an application Deployment environment but as an app Development environment. So I figured it was something completely different. (Note to Rocket engineering/marketing/doc people: you might want to get some feel for whether this is a common perception.) I didn't know UniAdmin was withdrawn as soon as XAdmin was introduced. Very few companies do that for exactly the reason Bill cited. I have the original UniAdmin from my prior install media and the question is answered. So now before I install, the questions are: How well does XAdmin replace UniAdmin? How fast is Rocket working to bring back lost functionality? Can XAdmin and UniAdmin be run in the same environment? Is there any good resource for answers to these and related questions? (Always looking to learn where to fish rather than asking for fish...) Thanks! T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Where can I get UniAdmin?
Dan, that's really great news - thanks! Unless you or someone else sees an issue with this, here is my planned approach: 1) Install the last release of UniAdmin. 2) Install the latest release of XAdmin on the same system. 3) Try XAdmin, revert to UniAdmin as required. (Without keeping both open simultaneously) 4) Upgrade XAdmin in-place when a new release is available. 5) Repeat 3-4 as required until UniAdmin is entirely obsolete. T From: Daniel McGrath Hi Tony, We are aware of the delta in functionality between UniAdmin and XAdmin. This delta is addressed in our upcoming U2 DBTools for which you won't have long to wait. For anyone using UniAdmin, I encourage you to keep a look out for this release and check out XAdmin. We are always looking for customer feedback on our products. Dan McGrath U2 Product Manager | Rocket Software ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
