Re: [Ubnt_users] Radomes for AF‑5G34‑S45

2016-12-08 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Amazon has 10 of them...

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Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Radomes for AF 5G34 S45

Thanks for your help! Now if someone just has them in stock... :)

On 12/8/2016 12:29 PM, Omni Flux wrote:
> Datasheet says RAD-RD3. Streakwave says RAD-3RD.
>
> RF Armor versions are UDR5 and UDK5X.
>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's

2016-10-09 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Most of my links are within 1 mile. All in all, I like the dishes better as
well. Shipping is what kills us here in AK though.

I am looking forward to the light beams, but they probably won't work right
for another year or so after they start shipping if UBNT follows the same
release pattern as there other newly released products :)

On Oct 9, 2016 6:15 AM, "Phil Curnutt" <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 8 beta-17.  I replaced the pair of 19 with a pair of PBE-5AC-300 and the
> link works just as expected.  After looking at the antenna patterns of the
> 16's and 19's it looks as if the beam is to wide with overly large side
> lobes, so most of the Tx power is being wasted on a PtP or PtMP that is
> over .5 miles long.  Seeing as the cost of the 300 is with in a few bucks
> of the 19's we are going to only use the 300s.
>
> Phil
>
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:07 AM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I do have this issue on several ptmp connections using the latest beta
>> firmware. I figured it was a bug. What firmware are you running?
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2016 1:39 PM, "Phil Curnutt" <pcurn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair
>>> of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55.  After connecting the
>>> link the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the
>>> radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth.  With help from the Alignment
>>> Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5
>>> degree down rather then 1 degree up.  We could achieve the same Chain0,
>>> Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the
>>> Station aimed 6 degrees down.  I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300
>>> and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better.  So, today
>>> I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47.
>>>
>>> So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam?
>>> We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work
>>> just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up.
>>>
>>> Phil
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Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's

2016-10-09 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
I do have this issue on several ptmp connections using the latest beta
firmware. I figured it was a bug. What firmware are you running?

On Oct 6, 2016 1:39 PM, "Phil Curnutt"  wrote:

> I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair
> of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55.  After connecting the link
> the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the
> radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth.  With help from the Alignment
> Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5
> degree down rather then 1 degree up.  We could achieve the same Chain0,
> Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the
> Station aimed 6 degrees down.  I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300
> and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better.  So, today
> I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47.
>
> So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam?
> We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work
> just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up.
>
> Phil
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Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US

2016-09-27 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
It depends on the noise floor, most cpe’s according to the interface sit in
the 90’s. At the sector it’s usually in the high 80’s to low 90’s.



So when we set people up and the return signal is in low to mid 70’s we
tend to not want to install. So several times this has happened, we have
just swapped the sector back to the AC 65degree panels and get to where we
need to be in the mid 60’s. Which makes sense since your adding 10 dbi back
to the link.



So the question is, can you make a high gain version of the horns? A 16 to
20 dbi model would solve most issues for us on the longer shots.







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What are the SNRs\modulations like for the longer out ones?



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We have been using both the 65’s and the 90’s. Like I said, they work
really well in our less than a mile areas, better than any sector would in
fact.



While I can connect devices over a mile, the signals on the receive side of
the sector don’t meet our minimum qualifications for a connection. I think
its a gain issue on the horn. 10 Dbi just isn’t enough for long range PTMP
at our return signal requirements.



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Chris,



Thanks for that feedback. I have a few questions.  What horns are you using
and what CPE's are connected?



Customers are able to connect some devices over 10miles.  For example using
Airgrids or PBE400's on 30deg Horns. We had someone with a 30deg Horn and
RocketM5 connect to a NSM5LOCO at almost 3 miles.




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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
wrote:

I use the feed horns as well, they work great up close, but as you get
farther out, more than a mile, they start to have issues I've found.

How far are you connecting you're your devices at?

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Evan,

Yes you have the correct pairing,  we just converted a tower site from 4
Prism's on the UB Titanium sectors to the RF Elements 30deg horns.
Greatly reduced the noise floor by going to the 30deg which gave us higher
SNR and more 8x rates.  doing an ABC channel config until UB actually gets
the GPS sync on the Prisms working.   Total capacity on the tower now is
over 2 GBps.


Garth

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From: Evan Galvin
Sent: 9/26/2016 7:42:35 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US

> Hey guys, just wanted to confirm that the R5AC-PRISM-US has a metal
> shielded housing on it.
>
> Do you think it would pair up good with this combo:
>
> https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.aspb
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Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US

2016-09-27 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
We have been using both the 65’s and the 90’s. Like I said, they work
really well in our less than a mile areas, better than any sector would in
fact.



While I can connect devices over a mile, the signals on the receive side of
the sector don’t meet our minimum qualifications for a connection. I think
its a gain issue on the horn. 10 Dbi just isn’t enough for long range PTMP
at our return signal requirements.



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Behalf Of *Tasos Alexiou
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:50 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US



Chris,



Thanks for that feedback. I have a few questions.  What horns are you using
and what CPE's are connected?



Customers are able to connect some devices over 10miles.  For example using
Airgrids or PBE400's on 30deg Horns. We had someone with a 30deg Horn and
RocketM5 connect to a NSM5LOCO at almost 3 miles.




Regards,

Tasos Alexiou
Managing Partner
RFelements North America LLC

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
wrote:

I use the feed horns as well, they work great up close, but as you get
farther out, more than a mile, they start to have issues I've found.

How far are you connecting you're your devices at?

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of G. Nicholas
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:29 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US

Evan,

Yes you have the correct pairing,  we just converted a tower site from 4
Prism's on the UB Titanium sectors to the RF Elements 30deg horns.
Greatly reduced the noise floor by going to the 30deg which gave us higher
SNR and more 8x rates.  doing an ABC channel config until UB actually gets
the GPS sync on the Prisms working.   Total capacity on the tower now is
over 2 GBps.


Garth

- Original Message -
From: Evan Galvin
Sent: 9/26/2016 7:42:35 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US

> Hey guys, just wanted to confirm that the R5AC-PRISM-US has a metal
> shielded housing on it.
>
> Do you think it would pair up good with this combo:
>
> https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.aspb
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Unifi for MDU

2016-09-13 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
We tried this with all sorts of failure. Too much maintenance for us.
Customers with multiple devices don’t work well with hotspot style setup.



We moved to ADSL2+ and VDSL in building. Way easier and integrates better
with most billing systems.



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*Subject:* [Ubnt_users] Unifi for MDU



We're looking to replace our current MDU solution, and we were looking at
possibly using Unifi. Can you make Unifi auto-bill an account? It'd be nice
if a customer didn't have to login and pay every month.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] kudos to ubnt - rma

2016-08-17 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Just like stripper glitter, you'll keep finding that stuff years later :)

On Aug 11, 2016 1:54 PM, "Jan-OOLLC"  wrote:

> hilarious video!  Forty years ago we had a bean-bag chair rip a seam, the
> pellets even got outside.  We had pellets everywhere and I'm sure if I went
> back there to the house I could still find them.
>
> Jan V
>
> On 08/11/2016 07:43 AM, Matt Baer via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> Friggin garbage guys opened the bag to see if it was garbage and left it
> open for the wind to take them. I'm STILL mowing them up.
>
> On Aug 11, 2016 9:25 AM, "Joe Novak"  wrote:
>
> oh that video is gold.
>
> that is too funny.
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Did he get the units from Ubnt distribution?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Matt Hardy via Ubnt_users <
>> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If it makes you guys feel better, here's proof we also do get these
>>> packing peanuts. Here's our very own Matt Baer after getting some sample
>>> products at his house :)
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/tepP-FEhHNk
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Matt Hardy  wrote:
>>>
 Yes! Nobody likes those peanuts :)

 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:47 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users <
 ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:

> It may say that...but definitely won't be ;)  I have sent an email to
> RMA team to discontinue the peanuts ASAP.
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> The RMA notice going out, I believe, does warn it may be turned
>> down.  It has been a while since I've done an RMA to be honest.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users <
>> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Message received loud and clear! ;)  Will get this transitioned.
>>>
>>> FYI - We will not turn down your RMA for using peanuts.  Like I
>>> said, I think we try and be very accommodating with the RMA's.  Let us 
>>> know
>>> if there are issues you are facing.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:44 AM, RickG 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1 Ben! What's funny is UBNT requests we not send RMA's with
 peanuts!

 On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users <
 ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:

> I am not a fan of the packing peanuts either ;)  We will find
> better solution here.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Shawn C. Peppers <
> videodirectwispal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have zero problems with RMA at ubnt, im not sure what happen
>> but i cant remember one time i have had problem getting a warranty 
>> swap
>> completed.
>>
>> I do on the other hand think its funny that they don't want you
>> to send your product back in packing peanuts but turn around send the
>> product back to you in packing peanuts.
>>
>> I have hate for packing peanuts.
>>
>> Shawn C. Peppers
>> Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment
>> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
>> 480-287-9960 Fax
>> http://www.video-direct.tv
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users <
>> ubnt_users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jan -
>>
>> Can you send me some examples of this?  This should not be
>> happening.  We make it a point to have the RMA process be as smooth 
>> as
>> possible, so if this is not happening, please send to me off-list 
>> and will
>> look into this and have it improved.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Jan-OOLLC <
>> j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Our local supply chain is 2 days away, even when paying for next
>>> day it still takes 2.  We don't use Amazon except for emergencies 
>>> and since
>>> most of the supply chains I've used in the past use a ubnt 
>>> warehouse which
>>> then sends out 6 or more months old product.  Stuff we use a lot 
>>> of, I have
>>> to keep in stock.  You can't expect customers to have to wait for 
>>> service,
>>> not tolerable.  The RMA that didn't happen had a test date of 
>>> February
>>> 2016, unit tossed into recycle bin.
>>>
>>> Jan V

Re: [Ubnt_users] WS-8-250-DC rebooting

2016-06-28 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
I have almost the same setup as you in several locations. I'm gonna lean on
a bad ground somewhere. Check all your cables to your radios, solar and
everything. Maybe a squirrel thought one of them tasted nice.

Also setup syslog to a remote server.
On May 30, 2016 1:32 PM, "James Wilson"  wrote:

> I replaced the switch with a cold backup off the shelf with 1.4 firmware
> and the problems stopped.  But it turned out to have a dead fan.
>
> So I put the original switch back in after loading 1.4 firmware and
> manually rebuilding the configuration.  Seems to be all back to normal
> now...
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 11:54 PM, RickG  wrote:
>
>> I saw this a couple times: Once with a bad POE surge protector and
>> another time it had a bad cable.
>> BTW: Firmware v1.4.0 - FINAL is out!!!
>>
>> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:37 PM, James Wilson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is sort of UBNT related - all of the radios are UBNT with a Netonix
>>> switch.  I posted this on the Netonix forums, but they aren't as widely
>>> traveled.
>>>
>>> So I'm kind of crossposting here to see if anyone has some ideas.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> We're having a problem that we're having a lot of trouble
>>> troubleshooting. I brought this up with Chris today, but no answers yet.
>>>
>>> So we have a solar powered relay site that takes about an hour to get
>>> to. In the last few days the site has been going down intermittently. And
>>> it may have been longer than that, but maybe not long enough outages for
>>> AirControl 1 to send us an alarm.
>>>
>>> Yesterday afternoon the old switch (running 1.3.2) went down and didn't
>>> come back up until about 1:30 am this morning. We could log into the
>>> backhaul and the backhaul showed link at 100 Mbps Full duplex, but we
>>> couldn't log into the switch or anything past it. The backhaul is a
>>> NanoBridge and we have three Rockets hooked to it as APs.
>>>
>>> Some ants had gotten into the enclosure and we thought that was the
>>> problem with the switch. So we swapped in a new switch, (running 1.4.0rc25)
>>> stayed around about an hour to watch it and saw no problems.
>>>
>>> This afternoon the new switch started rebooting. And the backhaul radio
>>> would lose power when the switch rebooted.
>>>
>>> I updated the firmware on the old switch and let it run on the bench for
>>> several hours with no problem.
>>>
>>> There are no AirFibers connected to this switch, but we do have an AF
>>> connected to a different WS-8-250-DC at a different site.
>>>
>>> I copied the log from the new switch below and maybe I can figure out
>>> how to insert a screen shot if that will help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Help! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dec 31 19:00:04 sysinit: killall: udhcpc: no process killed
>>> Dec 31 19:00:05 netonix: 1.4.0rc25 on WS-8-250-DC
>>> Dec 31 19:00:07 kernel: vtss_core: module license '(c) Vitesse
>>> Semiconductor Inc.' taints kernel.
>>> Dec 31 19:00:07 kernel: switch: 'Luton26' board detected
>>> Dec 31 19:00:09 kernel: vtss_port: Loaded port module on board Luton26,
>>> type 5
>>> Dec 31 19:00:09 kernel: nf_conntrack version 0.5.0 (2048 buckets, 8192
>>> max)
>>> Dec 31 19:00:10 kernel: i2c /dev entries driver
>>> Dec 31 19:00:10 system: Setting MAC address from flash configuration:
>>> EC:13:B3:51:xx:xx
>>> Dec 31 19:00:10 kernel: i2c_vcoreiii i2c_vcoreiii: i2c bus driver on IRQ
>>> 19
>>> Dec 31 19:00:11 sysinit: Loading defaults
>>> Dec 31 19:00:11 sysinit: Adding custom chains
>>> Dec 31 19:00:11 system: starting ntpclient
>>> Dec 31 19:00:12 sysinit: Loading zones
>>> Dec 31 19:00:12 sysinit: Loading forwarding
>>> Dec 31 19:00:12 sysinit: Loading redirects
>>> Dec 31 19:00:12 sysinit: Loading rules
>>> Dec 31 19:00:12 sysinit: Loading includes
>>> Dec 31 19:00:12 admin: adding lan (eth0) to firewall zone lan
>>> Dec 31 19:00:17 Port: link state changed to 'up' (100M-F) on port 3
>>> Dec 31 19:00:17 Port: link state changed to 'up' (10M-F) on port 1
>>> Dec 31 19:00:18 sysinit: killall: telnetd: no process killed
>>> Dec 31 19:00:18 Port: link state changed to 'up' (10M-F) on port 5
>>> Dec 31 19:00:18 Port: link state changed to 'up' (10M-F) on port 7
>>> Dec 31 19:00:19 sysinit: 1969-12-31 19:00:18: (log.c.97) server started
>>> Dec 31 19:00:20 dropbear[741]: Running in background
>>> Dec 31 19:00:21 kernel: eth0: no IPv6 routers present
>>> Dec 31 19:00:22 Port: link state changed to 'down' on port 5
>>> Dec 31 19:00:22 Port: link state changed to 'down' on port 1
>>> Dec 31 19:00:23 Port: link state changed to 'down' on port 7
>>> Dec 31 19:00:23 switch[769]: Detected cold boot
>>> Dec 31 19:00:24 Port: link state changed to 'down' on port 3
>>> Dec 31 19:00:25 switch[769]: PoE enabled on port 1, PoE Smart is
>>> starting cable check
>>> Dec 31 19:00:25 switch[769]: PoE enabled on port 3, PoE Smart is
>>> starting cable check
>>> Dec 31 19:00:25 switch[769]: PoE enabled on port 5, PoE Smart is
>>> starting cable

Re: [Ubnt_users] UniFi Service for home users

2015-01-09 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
We charge $15 per month per access point and give them a management
interface.



Works well for our larger houses.



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*Subject:* [Ubnt_users] UniFi Service for home users



So we have been installing a few UniFi devices, as tests, in some of our
customers houses. Mostly due to size of their structure, multiple and
varying devices and streaming devices where our basic routers just weren’t
cutting it. Its about time to charge these customers. We have been
installing them to our cloud controller for management in cases where we
wouldn’t need an onsite controller.



Questions is for others doing the same thing, what do you do for charging?
Do you charge for the equipment a one time fee plus install if applicable,
or a small one time fee and a monthly rental or management fee? I would
like to market the hell out of these for our higher end customers, but I
want to make sure we make some money. I wouldn’t mind doing a small monthly
recurring fee on top of their service fee for monthly internet service. If
they drop the service I just get our gear back. I suppose depending on how
many devices the needed, maybe a small upfront fee for each device, theres
really not much additional cost for management of several devices



I appreciate any input



Thanks

Heith

MNWireless
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability

2015-01-08 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Issue with Beams have cleared up for us, but the rollout was not without
its problems, all the initial problems were with the 19’s. They work well
enough now minus DFS.



Everything else I get with the AC line. I just can’t bite off on anything
UBNT puts out until DFS is ready. I just don’t have the spectrum to make it
work. I hedged my bets on the Nano Beams getting this and lost on it.



Thanks for your time Ben.









*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 12:30 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



Inline below...



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote:

I didn’t think the lite would be available after the full launch of the
real product. No advantages there though as it doesn’t sport any of the
magic other than AC, which isn’t magic at all.



BM: Yes, lite will continue to be available.  The advantages are achieved
by splitting the PTP and PTMP functions.  Believe me...we definitely don't
want to create a new sku, just to create a new sku and charge you more for
it ;)



You can’t sit here and deny the fact that the Nano Beams had issues
initially. I had to pull all our initially installed ones from the field
due to some serious AP wide degradations that didn’t get resolved till much
later. We have them rolled out now in minimal fashion on newer firmware and
some beta 5.6



BM: Sorry, not aware of the issues (though admittedly I do not follow the
SW issues as closely).  Based on demand for the product and requests for
DFS approvals and lack of chatter regarding issuesare you still
experiencing issues?  Can you get them sent to me and will have support
review?



Let’s see, how many other products can I list that had been rushed to
market….



BM: No question not perfect here...Especially with our announcements.  I
think this is getting much better (edge switches shipped at time of
announcement, NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP, New AC antennas, AF-24HD just announced
and first shipment arriving next week, etc...).  You can also see that the
AC product line has a TON into it at launch.  It also has a number of
networks active using it for many, many months.











*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:49 AM


*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



With the NanoBeam what is half baked?  We have heard great response from
the product worldwide (in each market).  Software or hardware issues?  What
were you beta testing?



If you want the one rocket, you can always use the lite...This option is
there.  However, you won't have the benefits of airPrism.  With airPrism
you really need to break out PTP and PTMP to get best performance (and with
AC).



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote:

I did watch the webinar. Not sure how I feel about it yet and whether It’s
enough to justify upgrading existing stuff. Still deciding even if I want
to move forward with it after the Nano Beam debacle that we wasted a lot of
time and money beta testing a fully released non half assed product.



That said, I would be more inclined to buy a product that supported the
full breadth of what 5Ghz has to offer.



I rather enjoyed one rocket to rule the all as it was easier to keep stock
this way for replacements. Now I have to keep track of multiple items and
SKU’s.







*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:21 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



We actually do call out what each are capable of on the data sheet.  The
days are not gone of one device doing everything (this still applies with
the majority of the products).  However, we have optimized a PTP product
and a PTMP product.  Many have asked for this and I think it will be a
welcome change.  We are not charging more for this.  we are just getting
the most out of PTP and most out of PTMP.



Yes, it will have DFS.  I would expect in Q1.  The lites are PTP and PTMP.



The products are fully capable.  If you are referring to DFS, we release
now because many want to use them now in the bands they are available in
USA and also the rest of the world can use bands available.



You may want to look at all of the enhancements/SW features discussed in
our webinar yesterday:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTg-XNlF4g



This is not half baked.



Thanks,

Ben



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote:

So much confusion with UBNT equipment. Gone are the days when one device
could do everything I guess.



Will it have DFS? Probably not. So none of the products are usable for me.
I have PTP Lites

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability

2015-01-08 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
I did watch the webinar. Not sure how I feel about it yet and whether It’s
enough to justify upgrading existing stuff. Still deciding even if I want
to move forward with it after the Nano Beam debacle that we wasted a lot of
time and money beta testing a fully released non half assed product.



That said, I would be more inclined to buy a product that supported the
full breadth of what 5Ghz has to offer.



I rather enjoyed one rocket to rule the all as it was easier to keep stock
this way for replacements. Now I have to keep track of multiple items and
SKU’s.







*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:21 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



We actually do call out what each are capable of on the data sheet.  The
days are not gone of one device doing everything (this still applies with
the majority of the products).  However, we have optimized a PTP product
and a PTMP product.  Many have asked for this and I think it will be a
welcome change.  We are not charging more for this.  we are just getting
the most out of PTP and most out of PTMP.



Yes, it will have DFS.  I would expect in Q1.  The lites are PTP and PTMP.



The products are fully capable.  If you are referring to DFS, we release
now because many want to use them now in the bands they are available in
USA and also the rest of the world can use bands available.



You may want to look at all of the enhancements/SW features discussed in
our webinar yesterday:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTg-XNlF4g



This is not half baked.



Thanks,

Ben



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote:

So much confusion with UBNT equipment. Gone are the days when one device
could do everything I guess.



Will it have DFS? Probably not. So none of the products are usable for me.
I have PTP Lites sitting on the shelf since release cause I can’t use them.



Why not wait to launch a fully capable product instead of half assed one.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 10:32 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



I assume you are talking about PTP (with airPrism) and not the lite version
right?  The Lite version can do PTP and PTMP.



So, in summary, there are hardware differences for PTP and PTMP with
airPrism that maximize performance for PTP and PTMP.  There are also
software enhancements for PTP only version (TDMA framing, Long distance
mode, etc...).



Thanks,

Ben



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tom Fadgen tfad...@coastinet.com wrote:

I guess I f. up with my assumption since I just ordered PTP that I do
not need. I guess I have to remember my old motto from the early '80's,
Trail Blazers sometimes get arrows in their backs or bleeding edge
technology is called BLEEDING for a reason



Tom Fadgen

coastinet.com



On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 8:55 am, Ben Moore wrote:

The PTP version will always be just PTP (at least as it currently stands).
They have different hardware than the PTMP version (not yet announced).  We
are planning to start shipping PTMP AirPrism version this month to
distributors.



Thanks,

Ben



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Tom Fadgen tfad...@coastinet.com wrote:

I am hoping just like the non-prizm 5ac-lite's which originally came out as
PTP only, a firmware release will open up PTMP.



Tom Fadgen

coastinet.com



On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 7:52 am, Jeremy Grip wrote:

Not seeing this available yet from the usual suspects. Can we assume the
price will look like the PTP version?





Jeremy Grip
North Branch Networks,LLC



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability

2015-01-08 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
I didn’t think the lite would be available after the full launch of the
real product. No advantages there though as it doesn’t sport any of the
magic other than AC, which isn’t magic at all.



You can’t sit here and deny the fact that the Nano Beams had issues
initially. I had to pull all our initially installed ones from the field
due to some serious AP wide degradations that didn’t get resolved till much
later. We have them rolled out now in minimal fashion on newer firmware and
some beta 5.6



Let’s see, how many other products can I list that had been rushed to
market….











*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:49 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



With the NanoBeam what is half baked?  We have heard great response from
the product worldwide (in each market).  Software or hardware issues?  What
were you beta testing?



If you want the one rocket, you can always use the lite...This option is
there.  However, you won't have the benefits of airPrism.  With airPrism
you really need to break out PTP and PTMP to get best performance (and with
AC).



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote:

I did watch the webinar. Not sure how I feel about it yet and whether It’s
enough to justify upgrading existing stuff. Still deciding even if I want
to move forward with it after the Nano Beam debacle that we wasted a lot of
time and money beta testing a fully released non half assed product.



That said, I would be more inclined to buy a product that supported the
full breadth of what 5Ghz has to offer.



I rather enjoyed one rocket to rule the all as it was easier to keep stock
this way for replacements. Now I have to keep track of multiple items and
SKU’s.







*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:21 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



We actually do call out what each are capable of on the data sheet.  The
days are not gone of one device doing everything (this still applies with
the majority of the products).  However, we have optimized a PTP product
and a PTMP product.  Many have asked for this and I think it will be a
welcome change.  We are not charging more for this.  we are just getting
the most out of PTP and most out of PTMP.



Yes, it will have DFS.  I would expect in Q1.  The lites are PTP and PTMP.



The products are fully capable.  If you are referring to DFS, we release
now because many want to use them now in the bands they are available in
USA and also the rest of the world can use bands available.



You may want to look at all of the enhancements/SW features discussed in
our webinar yesterday:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTg-XNlF4g



This is not half baked.



Thanks,

Ben



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote:

So much confusion with UBNT equipment. Gone are the days when one device
could do everything I guess.



Will it have DFS? Probably not. So none of the products are usable for me.
I have PTP Lites sitting on the shelf since release cause I can’t use them.



Why not wait to launch a fully capable product instead of half assed one.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Thursday, January 8, 2015 10:32 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket5ac PTMP w/AirPrism availability



I assume you are talking about PTP (with airPrism) and not the lite version
right?  The Lite version can do PTP and PTMP.



So, in summary, there are hardware differences for PTP and PTMP with
airPrism that maximize performance for PTP and PTMP.  There are also
software enhancements for PTP only version (TDMA framing, Long distance
mode, etc...).



Thanks,

Ben



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Tom Fadgen tfad...@coastinet.com wrote:

I guess I f. up with my assumption since I just ordered PTP that I do
not need. I guess I have to remember my old motto from the early '80's,
Trail Blazers sometimes get arrows in their backs or bleeding edge
technology is called BLEEDING for a reason



Tom Fadgen

coastinet.com



On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 8:55 am, Ben Moore wrote:

The PTP version will always be just PTP (at least as it currently stands).
They have different hardware than the PTMP version (not yet announced).  We
are planning to start shipping PTMP AirPrism version this month to
distributors.



Thanks,

Ben



On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Tom Fadgen tfad...@coastinet.com wrote:

I am hoping just like the non-prizm 5ac-lite's which originally came out as
PTP only, a firmware release will open up PTMP.



Tom Fadgen

coastinet.com



On Thursday 08/01/2015 at 7:52 am, Jeremy Grip wrote:

Not seeing

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-10 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Didn't they already do this? I though the UAP Outdoor plus was the beta
hardware for this?

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:44 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

Are the 2.4Ghz AC going to be down converted 5.8Ghz radios, or is someone
developing a custom chip?

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
 They will be staggered...Many of the AC products are just being
 released...so it will be staggered.

 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rory Conaway
 r...@triadwireless.net
 wrote:

 Ben, is that the same timeline as the rest of the Powerbeam/Nanobeam
 DFS like end of the first quarter of 2015?  I’m really trying to
 schedule stuff but this issue is hanging me up.



 rory



 From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:56 PM


 To: Ubiquiti Users Group
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 Ben Moore via wispa.org

 3:17 PM (10 hours ago)



 We already have these in transit.  I would expect DFS to be available
 on these early next year.



 The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will.



 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:12 AM, Rory Conaway
 r...@triadwireless.net
 wrote:

 I might have missed this but does the AC product line support U-NII 1
 and DFS?



 Rory



 From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Ben Moore
 Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 5:42 PM
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group
 Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



 Yeah, performance with AC is priority # 1.  You can see current
 performance with PTMP from Chuck's post.  Another should be posted
 shortly.



 There are some really cool enhancements/features with 7.1/AC.



 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com wrote:

 Some here, don't look back a new day is breakin'.

 I assume the backward compatibility will result in a performance hit.





 Thank you Ben!  I know a lot of people want backwards compatibility...
 but I for one want forwards movement!  Even if it ultimately means no
 backwards compatibility.

 On 12/9/14, 3:21 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
  Backwards compatibility is planned, but will be some time before
  being implemented (will ask team for update on timeline).  There
  are a lot of features/products that will go into AC prior to adding
  backwards compatibility (making sure these are solid first before
  adding more variables).
 
  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
  mailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 
  Ben, I asked before but haven’t gotten word, can you speak to the
  Backwards compatibility of the new units?
 
  __ __
 
  *Steven Barnes*
 
  GM
 
  PCSWIN.com
 
  Howard LLC.
 
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  mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
  *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:14 PM
 
 
  *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
  *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
 
  __ __
 
  Yes, difference is airprism...and the fact that this one is PTP
  locked (the lite will do both PTMP and PTP).
 
  __ __
 
  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Mathew Howard mat...@litewire.net
  mailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:
 
  Yes, the spectrum analyzer is quite nice... even if the only
  Rocket I have that it works on is sitting on my desk. :p
 
  So is the only difference with this new Rocket AirPrism, or are
  there other  changes as well? 
 
 
  ---
  -
 
  *From:*ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
  mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Ben Moore
  [ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
  *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 1:27 PM
 
 
  *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
  *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs
 
  __ __
 
  ;-)  I think you guys will really like the new SW tools being
  added (especially the persistent spectrum analyzer...lots that
  can be done with that).  Will send out some details shortly on
  PTMP networks in the wild ;)
 
  __ __
 
  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Mathew Howard
  mat...@litewire.net mailto:mat...@litewire.net
  wrote:
 
  ha... I just Rocket and PowerBeam and assumed they were the
  same ones. I guess I should actually read stuff. This is
  what happens when you don't make new stuff look different
  :p

Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Thank god there not getting it. I'd like to keep that free for my ptmp
products.
On Dec 9, 2014 6:53 AM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

 So would bigger dishes or connectors.  ;-)



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 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5

 Nope. And really sucks also. It would be a great place for them.

 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

  Are the AF5 going to get the 5.1 GHz add-on?



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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early
announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that?



I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt
about it.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
J







*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:17 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs



We already have these in transit.  I would expect DFS to be available on
these early next year.



The NanoBeams do not have DFS yet...but they will.



On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Chris Ruschmann ch...@scsalaska.net wrote:



So what, this product will be available next year? Just an early
announcement? What about DFS? 2 years out on that?



I feel like I got burned on the Nano Beams, and am still a little but hurt
about it.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-03 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Well said.



In the alpha forums we gave them every possible combination of onsite
hosting that you could think of that we would be happy to use for this
project. Virtual appliances  and an actual hardware appliances that they
sell were 2 that I thought would be the easiest.



Fell on deaf ears though.







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Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:38 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl



Part of it for me is the perception of UBNT as a company.  We aren’t like
Apple consumers.  For the most part, most of us are not buying these
products to jack with them at Starbucks and drink Coffee.  We are out on
towers, in all kinds of weather, deploying these.   No matter the driving
factor, the majority of these networks are here to make money.  I, for one,
have bet my house and my future on UBNT products in the past.  It was no
different than betting on another vendor, but I chose UBNT for several
reasons.  Price was a factor but not the only one.



Robert and Staff, please don’t misunderstand the passion for these folks
being fanboys.   Sure, the inner geek in everyone wants the shiny new
gadget.  But at the end of the day we all want to go home and be able to
set our thermostat at 71 instead of 50.  :-) This is about providing a
service and being in business.  Tools like AirControl means we can do that
extra install instead of having the programmer spend their time figuring
out how to pull data from the radio or dump into some 3rd party app.  We
all know monitoring and proactive solutions are essential in this
business.  I want to know if my business customers are getting what they
pay for.  If I have SLA customers I want to prove to them we are living up
to expectations.  Having that data might mean keeping them or not. A
complete product family means we have a lower TCO.



Now, back to perception.  If I am putting my house on the line would I
continue to do so for a company that hasn’t finished a key product like AC
in how many years? Version 1 never was completed.  V2 is now dead.  What
about the Mfi cloud? I want to be able to trust a company with my
livelihood. Sure, a software product isn’t the same as a working AP, but it
should be a key component.  In today’s ISP world information is King.  If I
have information I know when to upgrade, what customers to proactively fix,
and how the overall health of the network is. This is what makes me
different than Comcast.  I should be able to know everything about what I
have.



If you want to make it cloud based, how about an appliance we can install
locally? Just an idea, in a sea of thousands.   But more importantly, help
us focus on automating our businesses and being kick butt at it. Give us
the tools we actually need.  That way we can buy more units from you.
Simple.



Justin



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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
There were several of us in the Alpha that told em it's a bad idea. They
wouldn't even acknowledge the fact we didn't want it. Al requests for a
local versions were ignored and not responded too.

My theory is Data Mining for investor relations.



-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kees H
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:48 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

Oh and their cloud solution does not need to be hacked.  What about a
disgruntled ubnt employee changing all the ssid's, logins and passwords of
all the connected cloud solution radios.  Do I hear Taps playing?



 Most ISPs in general like our management network to stay... private.
 These are probably the same people who run everything in one broadcast
 domain.

 As I said on the forums, if my network AC server gets hacked, that's
 my problem. If their cloud solution has an exploit in it, then its
 everyone's problem.

 On 12/1/2014 7:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 They have my e-mail address. They have the e-mail addresses for all
 of us at The Brothers WISP. It's not like we're idiots. We'll gladly
 tell them what we want and what they should\shouldn't do. They
 haven't taken us up on that offer.



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 *From: *Kees H wi...@calbroadband.com
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 6:14:42 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 
 It surprises me that they did not ask wispa. They are on this group.
 Who better to tell them what wisps are looking for.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
 *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:40 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 I saw bits and pieces along the way and told them no every time.



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 *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
 *To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
 mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 3:37:55 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

 I'm not sure how much I can say on this topic, but I will say that
 over a year ago when this was proposed everyone told them (to
 their faces) NO, we do not want this.

 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com

 On 12/01/2014 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 I don't know how anyone could read their target market this
 badly.

 It's like Ferrari or Lamborghini coming out with something to
 compete with the Geo Metro.



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 t-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

 
 
 *From: *Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 3:09:39 PM
 *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] New airControl

 It's called airCRM. It does billing and control. It's only
 hosted in the cloud.

 How could UBNT go this long without a functional control
 platform only to fuck it up this badly?



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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
It's a command and control network, similar to bot networks. The CPE's will
do whatever the cloud tells them to do upon check in. If they want to
create  a reverse tunnel back to them, they will, and at that point, they
might as well be owned.


On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Chuck Breitkreutz ch...@digitalpassage.com
wrote:

  The only communication I want from my devices is to servers on my
 network.


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 *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
 *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 9:10 PM
 *To:* ubnt_users@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl



 The cloud doesn't contact the devices, the devices initiate connection to
 the cloud.

 (to be fair)

  josh reynolds :: chief information officer

 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com

 On 12/01/2014 06:08 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:

 Kinda hard to point to a bunch of wavy hand WISPs about the size of your

 management adoption for the investors, but nuts dead simple if they are

 on your cloud system...   And if the FCC changes the rules   Guess

 what can be forced to update for compliance with or without your say so...



 Hm





 On 12/1/14 4:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

 On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:

 Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my

 radios?  Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?



 But it's CLOUD.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

2014-11-10 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
All of the new radios we ordered are XW. Nano’s that is.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 3:48 PM
*To:* ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?



We haven't received any XW locos/nanos/nanobridges/rockets yet, except for
RocketM5-Ti XW's.

Our nanobeams that we have as CPEs are working just fine with RocketM5 APs.
No low rates, good ccq, no WDS problems. Running 5.5.9 on the nanobeams,
and 5.5.8 or 5.5.10 on the RocketM5's.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 11/09/2014 03:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yes and Ubnt APs.  Nsm5 I think was our problem.  Replaced with a beam5 and
I could bridge again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 9, 2014 7:27 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

WDS issues with non ubiquiti ap's?



On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Probably since the Nanobeams definitely have WDS issues.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 9, 2014 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

Any issues on the new hardware inside the old models?



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*To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:18:05 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

Just had that happen on a RocketM5. I can't keep up.


On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

Can I assume that all the NS5M Locos now have the same processors as the
Nanobeams?  They are coming preloaded with XW firmware.  Very confusing.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

2014-11-10 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
I don’t think the radio changed, just the software. So they didn’t need to
be recertified.



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2014 1:42 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?



I'm pretty sure the XW Locos/NanoStations and Rockets already support
DFS... it's just the NanoBeam/PowerBeam that doesn't.

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*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
behalf of Rory Conaway [r...@triadwireless.net]
*Sent:* Sunday, November 09, 2014 6:51 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

We can’t use them yet until DFS, all our APs are there.



Rory



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Sunday, November 9, 2014 5:48 PM
*To:* ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?



We haven't received any XW locos/nanos/nanobridges/rockets yet, except for
RocketM5-Ti XW's.

Our nanobeams that we have as CPEs are working just fine with RocketM5 APs.
No low rates, good ccq, no WDS problems. Running 5.5.9 on the nanobeams,
and 5.5.8 or 5.5.10 on the RocketM5's.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 11/09/2014 03:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Yes and Ubnt APs.  Nsm5 I think was our problem.  Replaced with a beam5 and
I could bridge again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 9, 2014 7:27 PM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

WDS issues with non ubiquiti ap's?



On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Probably since the Nanobeams definitely have WDS issues.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 9, 2014 7:19 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote:

Any issues on the new hardware inside the old models?



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*To: *Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:18:05 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] XW firmware on Nanostation 5M Locos?

Just had that happen on a RocketM5. I can't keep up.


On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

Can I assume that all the NS5M Locos now have the same processors as the
Nanobeams?  They are coming preloaded with XW firmware.  Very confusing.



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Re: [Ubnt_users] {Spam?} Re: NanoBeam M5 400

2014-11-03 Thread Chris Ruschmann 
Are you saying the EPMP is a terrible CPE? Is it the size that sucks?



*From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:24 PM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] {Spam?} Re: NanoBeam M5 400



I've been deploying ePMP this year.

Every once in a while I circle to see if the horse is still dead while I
deploy someone else's gear instead.

U-NII1
DFS
Sync


(Oh yeah, and a terrible CPE.)



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*From: *Paul pmcn...@cameron.net
*To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:21:10 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] {Spam?} Re:  NanoBeam M5 400

OK Mike I will go away, but it still doesn't change the problem with ubnt!

On 11/2/2014 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

When someone brings up switching to Mikrotik wireless, I stop taking them
seriously. This is Mikrotik to the FCC:  http://bit.ly/1wX04zi

UBNT probably don't know either or if they do, I certainly wouldn't make
announcements about the DFS process other than in progress. Letting too
much out to competitors at that point.

As this thread has just turned into Paul crying, I'm out.



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*From: *Paul pmcn...@cameron.net pmcn...@cameron.net
*To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:59:34 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

YES we are all having to assume. We get very little good info from them that
we can take to the bank.
I don't little being treated like a mushroom!
Right now Mikrotik looks good for 2 years for non-DFS until ubnt can get
their sh** together
on their core products.

On 11/2/2014 8:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I assume that due to the sensitive nature of the DFS certifications,
they're not changing anything on those products until the DFS is complete.



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*From: *Paul pmcn...@cameron.net pmcn...@cameron.net
*To: *ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org ubnt_users@wispa.org
*Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:51:41 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

But I assumed, and was wrong that UNII-1 would be a simple permissive form
filing
which later turned into a full DFS certification required for ubnt for some
reason.
DFS, I understand but most other companies had the permissive change made
in June when allowed.


On 11/2/2014 8:44 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam guys?
Got a firm date you can commit to?

My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody wants to
stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with half a
container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a long
backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find someone
with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a waste of
time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a random
supplier and shipping it across the country.





On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

Look, Ben and Matt are on this board.  If you have a complaint, tell them
directly and give them a chance to make it right.  If they don't, then make
that public.  The manufacturer should be liable to defective products, no
question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer,
especially not in a small and public community like this.   As for the DFS
channels, I'm sure that will get resolved and there was enough information
around that you should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't
going to happen soon.  But this is a small problem compared to the cable
and Rocket GPS.  In those cases, the product either didn't deliver what it
was supposed to or simply fell apart.  Different situation.

 Rory

-Original Message-
From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Paul

Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and time to
replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use.


On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
 With the Rocket GPS, I agree.  The should have publicly offered to buy
every single unit back.  I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy melt
in the sun cable that I have to RMA.  With this situation though, part of
it was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the
inefficiency of government in general.  Holding an entire industry back for
months at a time is another example why other countries out-manufacture us
and our politicians are inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this
to happen.