[ubuntu-studio-devel] Owner ship of the core-team

2019-05-06 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi!

For the record i have transfered ownership of the US-core team to
eeickmeyer (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-core)

Sorry it took so long. I don't have any good explanation for it: i just
kept forgetting.

I hope this hasn't caused any troubles or delays.

I put my subscription to automagically be canceled on may 31st in order
to give some time in case something would have gone wrong and avoid
ending up locking us out. Pretty sure everything is fine though.

Regardless how short of time i managed to dedicate to the project, and
the fact that i wasn't able to be involved for as long as i had
committed, which i am very sorry for, It's been a honor to work with
each and everyone of you. I will stay in the PR team and maybe
documentation... Either-way i will probably pop up here and there to
cheer and help when i can.

Have a great week everyone!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Checking in, a little vision, Calf & LMMS

2019-01-03 Thread Set Sakrecoer


On January 3, 2019 3:52:50 AM UTC, Erich Eickmeyer  
wrote:
>
>On 1/2/2019 5:21 PM, Set Sakrecoer wrote:
>> Maybe you have reverted to the old logo and I've just missed out, but
>> on this wiki page there only seem to be the "corrrupt" version of the
>> Ubuntu studio CoF FTR, The graphic lead from Xubuntu (the Nick is
>> escaping my memory right now, sorry) corrected the distorted path
>seen
>> in those available on the wiki page linked above during 16.04 cycle.
>> It's been really difficult to remove the broken logo, so i'm not
>> blaming anyone. I'll show you the latest versions first thing in the
>> morning tomorrow. 
>Thanks, Set! I'll await the correct version.
>I didn't put that CoF on the Wiki, so chances are it's something left
>over from Kaj's time (for all I know). That said, if you have a better
>version (preferably in .svg) then we need to attach it to that page.
>I'd
>be more than happy to do that once I have the correct version. :)
>Erich

Yes, indeed, maybe that would be the last source of the old ones. :) It would 
could constantly ce back when we had design contests/proposition being 
submitted and I have never been too sure we're they came from.

The corrected ones are in the "current-standard" branch in ~ubuntustudio-art on 
launchpad.

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Checking in, a little vision, Calf & LMMS

2019-01-02 Thread Set Sakrecoer
Good to read some activity :)

> and updating the logo to be matching the official logo at
>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase#Ubuntu_Studio_Official_Logo.
>The wordmark is correct, but that spinning logo (while a cool idea) is
>off-axis terribly. But, as far as I'm concerned, go nuts. It needs a
>refresh like a monkey needs a banana.
>
>Thanks!
>Erich


Maybe you have reverted to the old logo and I've just missed out, but on this 
wiki page there only seem to be the "corrrupt" version of the Ubuntu studio CoF

FTR, The graphic lead from Xubuntu (the Nick is escaping my memory right now, 
sorry) corrected the distorted path seen in those available on the wiki page 
linked above during 16.04 cycle.

It's been really difficult to remove the broken logo, so i'm not blaming 
anyone. I'll show you the latest versions first thing in the morning tomorrow.
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] New Owner for ubuntustudio-core team

2018-05-27 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi List,

As you've probably noticed, I'm not contributing anymore. Luckily, there
are still motivated members left and lately it looks like their number
is growing. Something I'd like to thank the remaining members and the
new coming ones for!

I just don't seem to find the time/energy to write an official step-down
thing, and i probably wont for some time ahead. However, I'm taking this
moment to write an official "step-up" thing: someone needs to have the
ownership of the ubuntustudio-core team, I think the best suited
contributor currently for this is Erich Meyer. Therefor, unless someone
argues against it with a solid reason, i will make him owner of the
ubuntsutdio-core team.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Meeting Notes 2018-04-14

2018-04-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
Great meeting notes!

On 2018-04-15 05:21, er...@ericheickmeyer.com wrote:

>     Set, is there anybody besides yourself or Ross that can merge items into 
> the official repos?

As far as i remember, none of us has upload rights. And we need sponsors
for that. TBH, except the social process to get upload rights, i never
managed to wrap my head around how this worked.

> This list must be approved by Set Hallström as project lead.
> 
>  
> 
>   * Erich Eickmeyer (ErichEickmeyer) – (I have been acting as chair, if
> there aren’t any objections I’m okay with that)
>   * Eylul
>   * Thomas Pfundt (captain-tux)
>   * Len Ovens (OvenWerks)
>   * Krytarik

I approve of this.

I'd add myself to the list, but i'm not in a position to make such
commitments. I'll do my best to add when- and wherever i can be useful
according to the agenda the committee agrees upon.

Regarding the website, 2 request to join the website team were sent out:
one from Thomas Pound (captain-tux) and one from Ryan Hoover (rhoover84)

Thomas Pfundt, Pound... i suppose this is your account; will you please
confirm? https://launchpad.net/~captain-tux

I apologize for missing the meeting or if my memory is blanking on your
name Ryan.. i see you're an old-timer on launchpad and such
(https://launchpad.net/~rhoover84) but can i get a confirmation from the
team that this request should be honored? :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Wallpaper

2018-04-12 Thread Set Hallström
On April 12, 2018 1:17:46 AM GMT+02:00, eylul <ey...@ubuntustudio.org> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Here is a preview of the proposed wallpaper for 18.04.
>
>
>You can view full resolution version
>http://s.eyluldogruel.com/ubuntustudio/UbuntuStudio1804.jpg Created
>using Inkscape, Krita and Darktable. I'll work on second screen part if
>we plan to go ahead with it. Continue? Abort? :)
>
>As for additional wallpapers. I do have my photographs to offer
>(probably the most up to date place to browse is my mastodon:
>https://mastodon.art/@eylul/media, please ignore the occasional cat and
>screenshot mixed in there. ;) ) Most of the images have high resolution
>versions available, without watermark (obviously). A couple more people
>also offered during the meeting, so we could pool different items in
>and
>pick a few if we opt to go for that route, either on this release on
>18.10.
>
>Best
>
>Eylul
>
>
>On 04/07/2018 11:41 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
>> Present: ErichEickmeyer, OvenWorks, eylul, alem, captain-tux_, pmd11
>>
>>   * Eylul to look into change or add wallpaper for 18.04
>>   * Install-time package selection bug fixed, request for testers.
>>   * ubuntustudio-controls to be updated for 18.10 to add the
>following
>> features:
>>   o set cpu governor, turn on/off Intel Boost
>>   o choose audio device
>>   o run jack from session start (or not)
>>   o hotplugging USB mics selecting a non-standard set of outputs
>> for pulse-jack bridging
>>   o Using more than one audio device even if internal
>>   o bridging ALSA midi to jack midi
>>   o a “Safely remove USB Audio Device” button
>>   o Future improvements to include tabs for video use or graphics
>> setups.
>>   * Change in default DE or adding option of DE being considered for
>> 18.10. Those discussed included
>>   o Gnome Shell
>>   o KDE Plasma
>>   o MATE
>>   * Adaptation of Ubuntu MATE welcome app for Ubuntu Studio being
>> considered for 18.10, would replace “ubuntustudio-installer”.
>>
>>
>> Anyone who can, please install the latest Daily ISO to test the
>> install-time package selection. This is our final push to the RC on
>> April 19th, so we need to find the bugs.
>>
>> Next meeting will be same time next week.
>>
>> 22:00 EEST/MSK in Helsinki, Moscow, Ankara 
>> 21:00 CEST in Stockholm, Berlin, Paris, Madrid 
>> 20:00 BST in London 
>> 19:00 UTC/GMT 
>> 15:00 EDT in New York, Toronto 
>> 12:00 PDT in Los Angeles, Vancouver 
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Erich
>>
>>

Nice!

On a side-note regarding double screen (if understand it correctly): if you 
made it seamless that wouldn't be a problem and it would fit any screen or 
setup... Just a suggestion :)
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Sunday Meetings (was: US still alive !)

2018-04-05 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2018-04-05 19:09, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> I’ll keep funky ideas and impossible stuff to myself. :)

Please don't! If we censor ourselves for fear of saying something wrong,
perhaps we are going to miss out on something brilliant!

Of course, not everything will always work and one needs to be ready to
be contradicted and learn. But put the ideas on the table
_without discrimination_ so we can all contemplate them and pick the
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Attention

2018-04-03 Thread Set Hallstrom
First of all, Please. Chill. Out.

Everyone. (including me)

This said, Ralf you are _not_ helping here. You're welcome to assist new
users, but as long as you keep grinding that tone: you are *not*
helping. We know you know your stuff. Cool! If you want to participate
with development: be considerate. Otherwise, hands off the devel-list.

I will however ask /everyone/ to stick to that too: reacting to
whomever's clumsy (if not intentional) ways, is _not_ helping. There
will always be someone to nurture the negativity. Don't give them the
space for it.

I am afraid i am currently not equipped with the mental health necessary
to moderate the discussion in any other constructive way the this. I
don't ask you to understand but this means if you want things to happen,
you are going to have to moderate yourselves.

Second of all, I've been told there is no need for signing the CoC. It
was the first thing i was asked, and i adhere to it. I think it is a
good way to signal that you have at least read it and agree with it. But
as it seems, is not necessary. I apologize if that wasted your time, and
I know your time is precious, believe me.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Gaining Wiki Edit Permissions

2018-04-02 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2018-04-02 14:18, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> I don't know what kind of process is best. But it's a question that
> should be asked to ubuntu at large; ubuntustudio alone doesn't have much
> say in it.

i mean... we do have a say, but said process can only be improved if
discussed with _everyone_ involved with it.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Gaining Wiki Edit Permissions

2018-04-02 Thread Set Hallstrom
After spinning this in my head a few times:

On 2018-04-02 13:27, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> I'm not saying it's a prefect process, and i agree that beggars can't be
> choosers. But it is my opinion that we need some kind of sign of moral
> commitment to the project, or we could as well just make everything public.

I'd like to add that there are many good reasons, as you mention, to
want to allow users to sign the CoC directly from launchpad, but
removing the manual steps would also potentially open for easier
automation of that process to spam-bots.

I have had a long and unresolved internal struggle about the dilemma of
making things easier at the cost of leveling things to lowest
denominator. On one hand, i understand that most users don't want to
struggle with computing per-se and rather get on with using the computer
for their production purpose without having to know how the tools work
behind the scene. On the other hand in an ever more digitalized society,
this makes me sad: I'd wish more users would be inclined to take control
over their tools.

I don't know what kind of process is best. But it's a question that
should be asked to ubuntu at large; ubuntustudio alone doesn't have much
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Gaining Wiki Edit Permissions

2018-04-02 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2018-03-31 06:34, Mike Lococo wrote:
> Set,
[.snip]

> Signed.

Thanks! I'll poke around as soon as i get the time. I think we have a
ubuntustudio group that has access to the wiki, but i need to remember
which one.
( i think it shoulld be:
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-documentation
feel free to request addition to it. )

> But even as someone who knows their way around GPG, that was 
> harrowing. No musician or artist experimenting with linux on a 
> live-usb for the first time is going to successfully navigate that 
> process to correct a wiki typo. I don't know if that means it's only
>  worth recruiting among existing ubuntu contributors, or we need to 
> find ways to get people involved outside launchpad... but anyone with
> a half an hour to get their feet wet is going bounce off that process
> and never return.
> 
> If any other new folks find the code-of-conduct signature process as
>  mystifying as I did, this was the simplest guide I found (though the
>  key-import screenshot is wrongly about ssh-key import, which is 
> different than the gpg-key import you need to do to sign the CoC): 
> https://www.wikihow.com/Sign-the-Ubuntu-Code-of-Conduct
> 
> Cheers, Lococo

I understand GPG is cumbersome and a bit hard to wrap one's head around.
This said, so is development. Musicians, Artists, designers etc, are
welcome to help developing, but there is no short cut to it: you need to
learn the tools to do it and they are rarely very artistically
intuitive. However these type of contributors are often more comfortable
with PR, documentation and promotion. That means signing the code is the
most abstract thing they'll have to do.

I'm not saying it's a prefect process, and i agree that beggars can't be
choosers. But it is my opinion that we need some kind of sign of moral
commitment to the project, or we could as well just make everything public.

I hope i make sense.

Perhaps the entire embarking process is a good place to start with the
documentation update?

Thank you for taking the time, Mikelococo!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] US still alive !

2018-04-02 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi Thomas! Good to read you :)

On 2018-04-01 15:02, Thomas Pfundt wrote:
> Hi Set and all others,
> 
> on the general topic: Back in February when Ross Gammon asked for
> help with the 16.04.4 ISO-testing, he also mentioned the possible
> formation of a new project council. Two other members of the mailing
> list and I have already offered our assistance in our own respective
> areas of proficiency. (I don't know if I should tentatively mention
> their contacts, but they're probably reading reading this list and
> can join in at their own sentiment.)
> I've basically been waiting for a word on some kind of get-together
> to discuss roles or division for what's on the road map, but I might
> have misunderstood something.

The call to get together should have been made by the project lead, that
was me, but as it turned out, i simply couldn't.


I do however think that projects that are driven by volunteers needs
someone/someones to take action from the discussions. I know not
everyone have the time, will, or initiative to do so. What I'm trying to
say is that, if you feel you want to set-up a meeting you should feel
free to go ahead and do so by inviting everyone to attend on a given
date in a given chat room. :)

For the record, for that purpose we use IRC because it is transparent,
and discussions are logged here:
https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/


> I'll look into signing the code of conduct myself right now and try
> to get a better overview of the current state of everything.

> Anyway, I'll be available throughout this year and help with what I
> can, so "count me in".
> 
> 
> Kind regards, Thomas
> 

Thank you very much Thomas!! <3

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Candace

2018-03-30 Thread Set Hallström
On March 30, 2018 4:12:34 PM GMT+02:00, Set Sakrecoer <pub...@sakrecoer.com> 
wrote:
>On March 30, 2018 12:17:51 PM GMT+02:00, Lord Jonathan Moore
><jdm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I was looking at the replace-qjackctl-a blueprint and think Candace
>>would
>>be better it is faster to use than patchage. And looks more organized
>>with
>>a ladish session. I would like an opinion on ladish vs jack,
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>
>>jdm7dv
>
>Hi Jonathan!
>
>Thanks for reaching out and taking the time to inveatigate the
>question! 
>
>I kindof lost touch with music production at the same time i lost touch
>with ubuntu studio. I'm hoping to get chance to test Cadence. I think i
>remember hearing ladish development was sort of abandoned, but i might
>be very wrong...
>
>The rule of thumb is: if it fits in debian, it fits in UbuStu. This is
>because we pull packages from debian. I hope someone else can fill the
>many blanks. 
>
>TL;DR i am not against it, but i'm not really fit for judging and i
>hope more ppl will get involved in giving you feedback.
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Ps. Sorry, I mismanipulated my portable email client and by doing so forgot to 
sign the previous email properly. public@sak***oer.com is my alternative 
mailing list email address...

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] thanks to ubuntu studio

2018-03-30 Thread Set Hallström
On March 30, 2018 9:33:37 AM GMT+02:00, "pascalc...@gmail.com" 
<pascalc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi everyone. I'm sorry but I had to change my mail+ account quickly 
>because of my ancient email. not working anymore (Laposte is down. or 
>bugged as hell, must wait hours or even a day to have a mail...)
>
>I'll be happy if I can help the project. (leaving macos for linux
>audio)
>
>pascalcmao
>regards
>pascal (ex pcmao)
>
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Hi Pascal!

In case you missed it:

On 2018-03-29 21:09, pc...@laposte.net wrote:

Hi everyone ! 

If needed i can send by mail my photos for wallpapers 
(when I was a student in public law I worked for magazines so I made
thousands of photos) Maybe some of them are usable.
And they havent been sent to magazines of course

best regards



Thanks pcmao!

In the past, what we have done for wallpapers are contests where we
invite the community to send propositions to a flickr account and then
we setup votes for the 20 most popular ones.

If you are interested in organizing such a contest, it would be of great
value! :) It tends to invest the users and generate good PR/promotion.

Either way, you are welcome to share links to your wallpapers on the
user mailing-list:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
(note that links are better. It's general good practice to avoid
attaching large files to your email when sent to mailing-list.)

The user-list could really need some activity, why not initiate a
wallpaper exchange-thread on there? :)

Warm regards from cold swede,

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] photos for wallpapers or twitter

2018-03-29 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2018-03-29 21:09, pc...@laposte.net wrote:
> Hi everyone ! 
> 
> If needed i can send by mail my photos for wallpapers 
> (when I was a student in public law I worked for magazines so I made
> thousands of photos) Maybe some of them are usable.
> And they havent been sent to magazines of course
> 
> best regards
> 
> 

Thanks pcmao!

In the past, what we have done for wallpapers are contests where we
invite the community to send propositions to a flickr account and then
we setup votes for the 20 most popular ones.

If you are interested in organizing such a contest, it would be of great
value! :) It tends to invest the users and generate good PR/promotion.

Either way, you are welcome to share links to your wallpapers on the
user mailing-list:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
(note that links are better. It's general good practice to avoid
attaching large files to your email when sent to mailing-list.)

The user-list could really need some activity, why not initiate a
wallpaper exchange-thread on there? :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Gaining Wiki Edit Permissions

2018-03-29 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi Mike! Welcome! :)


On 2018-03-27 05:08, Mike Lococo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've seen the calls for assistance in maintaining ubuntu-studio. I'm
> a long time user who has never contributed, I think it's the best
> live distribution available for audio work, and I want to help ensure
> that it continues to be available. I've maintained small open-source
> projects, been an active community member in big ones, done some deb
> packaging work, and know my way around linux internals very well.
> I've never contributed to Debian or Ubuntu beyond bug-reports,
> though. At this time, I'm not offering to take over maintainership or
> join the proposed council, but I'd like to level up my ability to
> contribute by finding work that needs doing and doing it.

My sincerest apologies for the late response. Your email gave me a huge
smile just like the ones from the other people who have stepped forward
lately. :) THANK YOU! <3 Your contributions, however small or big are
most welcome!

> 
> My first step was to read the the wiki. There's a lot of great info
> there. But I found some mistakes (the latest version is listed as
> 15.10) and I think I can improve the
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/JoinTheTeam page by adding a "My
> First Contribution" section with a little hand-holding on how to do a
> simple things like make your first wiki edit or triage your first bug
> (once I figure out how to do that).
> 
> I found that I don't have wiki edit access though. I read
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpContents and now my application to join
> ubuntu-wiki-editors is pending at
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors. My Launchpad and Ubuntu
> One account has been idle for years, though, and I'm a little worried
> my application will languish or be rejected because someone thinks
> I'm a bot or a hacked account. I'M NOT! I'm resurrecting old accounts
> to try to help here. If anyone sees anything wrong with my
> application, let me know, and if there's a danger of it being
> rejected and there's anything a contributor with more history can do
> to vouch for me I'd appreciate it.


The wiki needs and diserves a lot of work. This would be a great place
to begin contributing. I'll see what i can do to accelerate you getting
edit permission. I would just need you to sign the Code of conduct of
ubuntu before i go ahead with that.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/100275/how-do-i-sign-the-ubuntu-code-of-conduct

> 
> Here's my launchpad account: https://launchpad.net/~mikelococo and
> you can see it pending approval at
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors.
> 
> My next goal will be to try to get permission to triage bugs. I
> assume I'll figure out how to do that while trolling around the wiki,
> but if anyone wants to jump start the permission process I'm all
> ears.
> 
> Cheers, Lococo
> 

For the part with the bugs, i'm not very good at how it works... I used
to know more, but i've kindof lost it. Hoping someone can fill in for me
here We used to have a contributor with a lot of experience about
it, but who prefers communicating over IRC. If you are familiar with
that communication protocol, try your luck and see if Krytarik is around
in #ubuntustudio-devel. Oven Werks is very good at it too.

I don't know how available they are atm though, and we have to respect
it if they are busy: life is what it is. And everyone involved is doing
it out of pure generosity.

Either way, once again, THANK you for stepping forward <3
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] US still alive !

2018-03-29 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2018-03-29 15:11, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> Hi,

PS.
Sorry for top-posting, i've lost my hand in the good habits of the
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] US still alive !

2018-03-29 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi,

Yes, the social media could need more love. cfhowlet used to do a good
job with it. But his time is also limited. Managing the socialmedia is
very time consuming and requires fairly quick response. And then there
is creating content to have something to post..

However, i can't even begin to describe how much hope i'm feeling from
reading you, Erich and pcmao: if you are willing to donate the necessary
time and energy, you are most welcome! :) For facebook there is no need
for password, i can make you a moderator, or whatever they call it. For
twitter, i need i can make you a team member with twitters
"tweetdeck.twitter.com" Than there is the youtube channel. And i think
the same applies there. So no need for passwords anymore...

I need you both to sign the code of conduct before though.

@Erich: I'm glad to see you are using the GPG key. I wasn't able to
locate your launchpad profile, will you send it to me?

@pcmao: can you also provide me with your launchpad profile link?

In case you are struggling with it, here is a howto:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/100275/how-do-i-sign-the-ubuntu-code-of-conduct

Looking forward to have you on board!

*Set

On 2018-03-28 22:05, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> I have a lot of ideas to help revitalize Ubuntu Studio, but I’m,
> unfortunately, not the one with the keys to the social media sites.
> Alan Pope of Canonical is now aware that I’m on the project, and
> maybe we’ll see where things go from there. As for the social media
> accounts, I don’t even know who would have the keys to those in order
> to get some publicity out there, but maybe Set might know. Either
> way, it’s good to see some attention being drawn.
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 11:49 AM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> What is probably going on is that linux users are installing the
>> base system, then using online search tools to find what programs
>> they need for their workflow and installing those programs..
>> 
>> On 3/28/2018 at 12:22 PM, pc...@laposte.net wrote:
>>> 
>>> "That is something I hope to rectify. Since I have deep contacts
>>>  with some of the most listened-to linux podcasts, I hope to get
>>> the word out that we’re still a thing."
>>> 
>>> Of course you/we are ! :) Ubuntu studio is one of the (last and 
>>> best) audio/vidéo/photo distro for linux. stopped projects:
>>> Agnula, fervent softwate studio to go, 64studio, outdated:
>>> Kxstudio strange: Avlinux Librazik:  cannot install librazik on
>>> my computers maybe it's me but seems install is broken Planet
>>> CCRMA I don't know if it's still on alive, tango studio, stopped
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> 16.0.4.4 LTS is really great, 18.04 preview is good too. Noticed
>>>  only few bugs with 18.04 lts. I'm no dev but I can help with bug
>>> report if needed I took a lot of photos of my country several
>>> years ago, I needed I can give them for screensavers or themes.
>>> (Must find them lol they are on an old DVD)
>>> 
>>> Linux world  need almost ONE distro for creation. But when I take
>>> a look to twitter/google+ US accounts, the  ... last messages
>>> sent by Ubuntu Studio are very old ( summer 2016) So you/we
>>> cannot expect new users.
>>> 
>>> regards
>> 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio Council & Participation

2018-03-26 Thread Set Hallström
On March 21, 2018 7:21:45 AM GMT+01:00, Erich Eickmeyer 
<er...@ericheickmeyer.com> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I just noticed the latest blog post with the need for new leadership
>for Ubuntu Studio. I thought I’d throw my hat into the ring and see if
>you could use my expertise.
>
Dear Erich,

Thank you very much for your introduction and sorry for the delayed response. 
You are more than welcome to contribute and i will try to guide you from the 
best of my ability, which to be honnest is very limited: i have very little 
bandwidth in time and my experience with the development is not very techie. 

I will not hide my fears that, from the silence towards your very needed offer 
to help, it seems we might have reached a critical point where we not only lack 
the humanpower to work on the distro, but also to embarque new-commers. I hope 
i am wrong.

Eitherway, the next steps you need to take to help out:

- Create a launchpad account

- Install a development release of Ubuntu Studio 

To do packaging and application development, you will additionally need to set 
up your developer environment 

You will find more info about it here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/JoinTheTeam

Looking forward to read you,

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] meeting Sunday

2017-05-20 Thread Set Hallström
On May 19, 2017 4:56:56 PM GMT+02:00, Ross Gammon <ro...@ubuntustudio.org> 
wrote:
>On 05/17/2017 06:31 AM, Len Ovens wrote:
>>
>> This sunday starting at 1330-1400 UTC (ending before 1500utc) or
>after
>> 2100utc... or suggest some other time (I may not be there but thats
>ok).
>>
>> -- 
>> Len Ovens
>> www.ovenwerks.net
>>
>>
>OK - unless there is a violent objection, lets say 13:30 UTC on Sunday
>(with 21:00 UTC as a backup if no-one turns up).

Thanks for your comprehension and kind replies. 

13.30 utc 2017-05-21 works for me. :)
See you then!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Where to start?

2017-05-14 Thread Set Hallstrom
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On 2017-05-14 16:15, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> the 10th release

ehm... i mean the 10th anniversary...

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Where to start?

2017-05-14 Thread Set Hallstrom
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Probably with an apology: A sincere one.
Although spontaneously, i'd like to congratulate you all for the 10th
release of Ubuntu Studio!

You made it without me! <3 As you've all respectfully and silently
been able to observe: i cannot lead this project. And I'm probably not
going to be in a foreseeable future. I'm sorry for that, among other
things.

I have very limited amount of time, but i suppose we'd need to talk
technicalities with permissions in launchpad and such as soon as
possible. Can we meet-up on IRC on the 21st of May? Not sure what time
would be the best, but I will follow up on this thread.

I can't speak much of the state of things or the community, because i
have no idea: My backlog is crumbling, covered in dust and my life
doesn't look like it did 8 months ago. I suppose a big thank-you!! to
those who pulled the work load of 17.04 is in place. I owe you beers,
juices and gratitude.

Yours,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] weekly meeting Dec 6 - (was Meeting Tuesday, Nov 29 at 19:00 UTC)

2016-12-08 Thread Set Hallström
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On December 6, 2016 9:43:56 PM GMT+01:00, eylul <ey...@ubuntustudio.org> wrote:
>I completely forgot to send the email this week, but Len and I were
>there for a bit. Krytarik and Chamois joined toward the end as well. We
>have mostly discussed controls.
>
>1) Controls:
>
>Len has been doing a lot of work on this (as everybody probably already
>knows :) ) but can use more devices to test it on. (especially AMD
>chips
>but more devices in general). You can download the packages a the dev
>archive. Some of the updates are not in yet, but will be soon.
>
>https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/autobuild/+packages
><https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/autobuild/+packages>
>
>Also will need more feedback on how to set up the gui, and ideally
>mockups. Here is Len's own audio setup as reference.
>
>http://www.ovenwerks.net/software/audsysmode.html
>
>Primary change to this will be splitting of CPU/system settings away
>from audio specific settings.
>
>2) Bug triage (no update)
>
>3) Wallpaper contest (no update)
>
>4) Website (no update)
>
>5) Krita package status: Eylul was flooded with deadlines last week.
>Will get back to this, this week.
>
>6) Boot image (no update)
>
>7) Meeting time: Does Tuesday 19:00UTC still work for everybody who
>wants to come. We can shift this by half an hour. if it will work
>better
>for people. We should also aim to limit these to an hour. :)
>
>8) Chamois is back from traveling, will work on boot image more this
>week.
>
>9) Next meeting will be at Dec 13, 19:00UTC. If there is small time
>shift (see item 7) I will email. I'll try to send an email reminder
>either way.
>
>Feel free to add your updates to this email :)
>
>Best
>
>Eylul
>
>
>
>
>On 11/27/2016 09:57 PM, eylul wrote:
>> Yeah, the meeting announcement was directly via email, which is why I
>> used the
>>
>>
>https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Meeting=20161129T19=1
>>
>> format in my initial email when linking to the world clock.
>>
>> The link format you mentioned is a good one to keep in mind through
>if
>> we get more serious with meetings in future and have agenda at the
>wiki
>> etc. So thanks for the suggestion! :)
>>
>> Looking forward to see everyone on tuesday. :)
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Eylul
>>
>>
>> On 11/27/2016 08:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:11:40 +0100, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>>>> Thanks for your feedback Ralf.
>>>> How does one put such a a nifty link in a text-mail?
>>> My apologies,
>>>
>>> I wasn't clear with this.
>>>
>>> If Ubuntu announces a meeting, they sometimes link to a web site,
>e.g.
>>> for a video conference and this website includes the clock.
>>>
>>> The clock in the upper left corner at
>>>
>>>
>http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/meeting/22714/architecture-discussions/
>>>
>>> links to
>>>
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
>>>
>>> Assuming a user shouldn't fake the IP, then for an email
>>>
>>>
>https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Meeting=20161129T19=1
>>>
>>> is the better choice.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Thank you Eylul!!! And all of you who attended!! <3
I apologize for missing out I'll do my best to be there on 13th.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Art Team

2016-12-08 Thread Set Hallström
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On December 8, 2016 3:23:45 PM GMT+01:00, Fritz Meissner 
<meissner.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Could you clarify this : searching on FB I found an Ubuntu Studio page,
>and
>an Ubuntu Studio group. Which do you mean here ?
>
>Fritz
>

Good point.

The main group (there a few) has 1700+ members. The page has nearly  16k 
members. (Insert 'Can we get 17040 "likes" until april' challenge here)

I'd rather see this PR-Ops happen on the page. Well produced it will 
automatically be fed to all groups by means of social dynamics :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] -controls

2016-12-08 Thread Set Hallström
On December 7, 2016 5:13:12 PM GMT+01:00, Ross Gammon <ro...@ubuntustudio.org> 
wrote:
>Hi Len,
>
>I don't really have much spare time contribute comments here, but for 
>sure I will try out the ppa sometime soon.
>
>But I just wanted to chip in with some encouragement. I like where this
>
>is going :-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Ross
>
>
>On 07/12/16 13:53, eylul wrote:
>> Len,
>> Lets assume I am an user. :)
>> I want to create a new boot setup (with system tweaks). I have to set
>up
>> the system tweaks, twice on each tab. (or change the boot setup, then
>be
>> mystified why settings aren't affected as I change them).
>>
>> Similarly presets doesn't help me at all, if I want to switch back
>and
>> forth between 2 setups.(unless I want a preset change that also
>affects
>> audio setup AND tablet setup AND boot setup). I have to change things
>> manually to use the in session tweaks (and potentially look up every
>> time what correct setting is).
>>
>> This is why it is important that the system tweaks are its own
>profile,
>> where there can be a default one to use in boot.
>>
>> Similarly the current preset solution requires me to recreate the
>audio
>> setup (and graphics setup) each time I create a preset for any
>reason.
>> It makes much more sense for these to have their own profiles, and
>> having a default one on boot. (then underlying structure can deal
>with
>> issues like: does this mean jack is started on boot or not).
>>
>> Also each of these have different change rates:
>> * Boot decision is something that will likely rarely change.
>> * For audio: there might be a couple of profiles that switches back
>and
>> forth (for 2 recording setups with different sample rates, or a
>graphics
>> or gaming profile that turns off zita to avoid extra processing power
>> waste. :D)
>> * Graphic tablet setup on the other hand, ideally changes every time
>one
>> switches software! (one of the primary aspects of more professional
>> tablets is that they have shortcuts buttons on the side and most
>> artists/designers like to adjust them to various shortcuts by program
>> basis. Some open source programs do allow their own overrides but not
>all)
>>
>> Ralf is right in that too many choices will cause more user problems
>in
>> the end, and that the GUI needs to be arranged based on how users
>> perceive what they are doing, rather than how we know things actually
>> work under the hood. Some extra options (in this case, under the
>ability
>> to create a profile) for advance user will be there but even then it
>> needs to not assume user knows what happens under the hood.
>>
>> E.g.: checkbox to change CPU profile to performance: What is my CPU
>> profile when it is unchecked? (ergo, why I had a drop down menu for
>> selecting CPU profile in my wireframe).
>>
>> I hope these are helpful, rather than discouraging. By the way 2
>> relevant concepts to this design discussions.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle (80/20 rule)
>>
>> I'll try to finish a layout draft based on what you sent, later
>today. :)
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Eylul
>>
>>
>> On 12/07/2016 08:13 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> Don't try to solve user problems that don't exist!
>>>
>>> Consider to join the Ubuntu users and some Ubuntu flavour users
>mailing
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 16:09:39 -0800 (PST), Len Ovens wrote:
>>>> Audio setup:
>>>>Master audio interface
>>>>Second choice master (disable unless master is USB)
>>>>sample rate (default to 48000)
>>>>On USB Audio plugin set USB AI to jack master enable
>>>>Choose if other audio IFs should autorun zita-ajbridge
>>>>Jack runs at boot enable (this should be default for Studio)
>>> Apart from the fact, that it might conflict with Linux howtos, a
>>> beginner would be overwhelmed. What is a master interface, what is
>zita?
>>>
>>> What files will be overwritten?
>>> .config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf? /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf?
>>> /etc/default/rtirq? ...?
>>>
>>> Less is more. An advantage of Linux are human readable and
>>> writeable configurations and a good documentation. Another advantage
>is
>>> that Linux requires some amount of self-responsibility, such as
>reading
>>> the fine manual.
>>>
>>> Constructs like "

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Art Team

2016-12-07 Thread Set Hallström
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On December 8, 2016 3:04:53 AM GMT+01:00, "C. F. Howlett" 
<cfhowl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Greetings Art Team et al:
>
>
>I would like to test something prior to launching the 17.04 wallpaper
>contest: submitting visual content to the Ubuntu Studio Facebook group
>page.  I believe this would be more efficient and effective than the
>somewhat convoluted method we used last time.
>
>
>The test format case is
>
>1. enable FB submissions via email
>
>2. enable mirroring FB updates to the US Twitter account
>
>2. Announce and publicize an Ubuntu Studio Happy Holidays wallpaper
>sprint
>
>3. Accept content for the sprint.
>
>5. Evaluate pros & cons of this method.
>
>
>*** I'm pretty sure we can set things so that emailed submissions are
>held pending approval.

Very good idea! Let me look at those settings tonight, unless you have the 
rights to do it already?

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Merge/pull Request

2016-11-30 Thread Set Sakrecoer

Greetings list!

This came in today in #ubuntu-devel:
 sakrecoer: hey Set, how are you? I sent 
https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.zesty.drop-pm-utils/+merge/312134 
(trivial), would you have a minute to merge/pull it?


I know how to do the merge/pull, and i understand it removes pm-utils, 
but i have very poor comprehension of eventual consequences. Can i just 
proceed? Any objections to this change?


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Meeting Tuesday, Nov 29 at 19:00 UTC

2016-11-27 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-11-27 13:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> FWIW Ubuntu meetings that are announced with a link could have an UTC
> clock in the upper left corner, if you click the clock, it links to
> timeanddate.com .

Thanks for your feedback Ralf.
How does one put such a a nifty link in a text-mail?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Art Team! 10th Birthday Wallpaper Contest

2016-11-27 Thread Set Hallstrom
BTW

On 2016-11-21 08:36, C. F. Howlett wrote:
> Zoom in to see the magic. [url filtered]

Are these filtered out by the mailing-list, or did you send the mail
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Art Team! 10th Birthday Wallpaper Contest

2016-11-27 Thread Set Hallstrom

Thank you very much for setting this up cfhowlett! You rock!

Like i said on IRC, i think ttoine and Eylul's feedback is very good and
you should take it in account. Then feel free to proceed with sending it
out from any and all the channels we have available :)

I offer to add something to the contest:
We make a devel-team's choice: that is an internal vote of the 3 best
submissions. I will sponsor an UbuntuStudio t-shirt as a prize for them.
(Given they agree to share their postal-adress/P.O. Box of course)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Meeting Tuesday, Nov 29 at 19:00 UTC

2016-11-27 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-11-27 11:41, eylul wrote:

> We will be doing a check-in meeting at Tuesday, Nov. 29 at 19:00UTC
> (what time is this for me?
> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Meeting=20161129T19=1>)

Awesome Eylul! Thanks for sending this out!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Online Summit: Call for sessions

2016-11-12 Thread Set Hallström
On November 9, 2016 9:16:27 PM GMT+01:00, eylul <ey...@ubuntustudio.org> wrote:
>This is a good idea.
>
>E.
>
>On 11/09/2016 09:13 PM, Ross Gammon wrote:
>>
>> Would it be an idea to propose a blueprint session for UOS to discuss
>> plans?
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Online Summit: Call for sessions
>> Date:Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:10:14 +0100
>> From:Daniel Holbach <daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com>
>> To:  ubuntu-community-t...@lists.ubuntu.com, Ubuntu Developers
>> <ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello everbody,
>>
>> On 02.11.2016 17:21, Daniel Holbach wrote:
>> > as announced a few weeks ago, Ubuntu Online Summit is going to
>happen
>> > 
>> >   15-16 November 2016
>> > 
>> > and all details are going to be up on http://summit.ubuntu.com/
>> > 
>> > Now is a good time to register
>> > (http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1611/registration/) and add your
>sessions
>> > (http://summit.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/propose-a-session/).
>> > 
>> > If you have any questions, reach out to myself, Michael Hall or
>Alan Pope.
>>
>> here's another friendly last-minute nudge. Get your sessions in!
>>
>> Have a great day,
>>  Daniel
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Its a good idea! I intended to attend regardless but unfortunately I will be on 
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Weekly IRC meetings

2016-11-06 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi list!

So it seems from the "17.04 cycle" thread that we are all going to be
busier than we have been the past cycle. Eylul suggested we set-up
regular IRC meeting and i think it is an excellent idea. It would make
our lives easier.

I wish we could have them on a weekly basis, and if I may express a
preference, it would be Sundays evening CET. But i reckon we need to
find a common ground... The only times i can absolutely _not_ is
weekdays (mon-fri) between 2am and 6pm CET.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio - Yakkety 16.10 Testing

2016-10-12 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-10-08 18:47, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> So we are less than one week away from the next release of Ubuntu Studio.
> 
> If you have a spare computer that you don't mind breaking (or
> overwriting the data on the hard disk), and you would like to help make
> the next release a beauty, then get testing!
> 
> The first Release Candidate has just been uploaded:
> 
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds
> 
> There are links to download the DVD images, and how to do the testing on
> this page. Don't be afraid to submit bugs on Launchpad and list them in
> your results on the tracker. We want to find & fix as many as we can
> over the next week. If you need help, just ask on this list, or on IRC.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ross
> 

Thank you Ross! :)

I bump the thread since it seems we got a re-spin of the ISO today. So
lets try it!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Numix Blue Theme

2016-10-05 Thread Set Hallstrom
tisdagen den 4:e oktober 2016 kl. 19:29:35 CEST, Ross Gammon 
<ro...@ubuntustudio.org> skrev:

Done - Laney has sponsored it for us \o/



\o/ <3



On 03/10/16 15:19, Set Hallstrom wrote:

Thanks Ross:)  I guess Krytarik and I didn't expect the reverts to be
necessary


Well, I just thought that it was a smaller diff file, and easier for a 
sponsor to review. We could have tried for the full transition, but 
there was a risk that they would suggest deferring it until the next 
release cycle.




That makes a lot of sense! Put like that it's a great move :) On the 
fringes of social-engineering lol! I was thinking /inside/ the box in terms 
of double-work.



I'm told:
>>without it (Provides) and the ability to drop 
-lightdm-theme off the seed/meta

>>simultaneously, 1.) the image build would start failing, and 2.) the
>>meta would become uninstallable (-desktop, -core).


Good point. I didn't think to check the impact on the metapackages. I 
will add a task to the bug to remember to take care of that. Hopefully 
we can cover that problem by uploading new metapackages first, but if 
the builds fail for a while early in the release cycle it shouldn't 
matter too much. This happens regularly anyway, when Debian do 
transitions that don't take care of our seeds :-)




Awesome! Next cycle, 17.04 is Ubuntu Studio 10 year anniversary so lets 
make it tidy ! :)



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Numix Blue Theme

2016-10-03 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-10-02 14:49, Ross Gammon wrote:
> So, I have reverted the merge of default-settings & lightdm-theme, 
> uploaded debdiffs to the FFE bug, and tested the theme works using or
> devel testing ppa.
> 

Thanks Ross :) I guess Krytarik and I didn't expect the reverts to be
necessary, but i take responsibility for failing to better synchronize
the team efforts and I add an entry to my
"why-i-need-to-learn-more-about-packaging"-list :) Anyways, now
everything the -release team asks for is there and i thank you for your
time and effort. Hopefully, despite being deprived of an up-loader in
the team, now that we know where we stand in that regard we will be able
to better anticipate this kind of situation.

> Hopefully the Release Team look at it soon. It may pay to ping them 
> on IRC in the next day or so.

I will poke them this afternoon and also try my luck in #u-devel

> Later I will submit bugs so that we remember to pull Krytarik's 
> package merge back in for the next release.

Yes, thank you! This reminds me that i need to inform you of the
following piece of knowledge I've been given:

You wrote in OP:

>>> 2. We have updated debian/control to also provide the
>>> us-lightdm-theme package. I don't think creating a virtual
>>> package is appropriate here. It is probably sufficient to just
>>> have breaks/replaces so that us-lightdm-theme is removed on
>>> upgrade.

I'm told:
>> without it (Provides) and the ability to drop -lightdm-theme off the 
>> seed/meta
>> simultaneously, 1.) the image build would start failing, and 2.) the
>> meta would become uninstallable (-desktop, -core).

I haven't been notified about the bug yet, so I'm assuming its underway,
but it might be good to put it there so we remember.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Numix Blue Theme

2016-10-01 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi Ross,
Thank you for taking a look at this. Most of your questions and the
details are unfortunately beyond reach of my skills, but I'll do my best
to address the little i know about it bellow:

On 2016-10-01 14:01, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I sat down this morning to review where we are with implementing the new
> theme. It was a little tricky to follow what was done where, and why. It
> would be more helpful to reviewers and potential sponsors if we
> submitted a bug on launchpad, then carried out discussions there, and
> created a task for the required actions on each package so we can track
> when they are all complete. For example, we have the theme uploaded in
> ubuntustudio-look, but we haven't changed the default settings in
> ubuntustudio-default-setttings yet.
> 
> So where are we we with each package?
> 
> ubuntustudio-look:
> 
> Kaj uploaded Version 0.54 to yakkety, and this appears to now depend on
> numix-gtk-theme, and numix-blue-gtk-theme. Numix-blue-gtk-theme is a new
> binary package (of ubuntustudio-look) and contains the bundled source of
> the upstream tarball. It would have been better to create a separate
> source package for this, but I suppose doing it this way avoided the
> need to get sponsorship outside of the team. And a note for Set for next
> time - the commit bundling numix-blue included a lot of other changes
> that probably should have been committed separately to bzr. But no harm
> done. We should probably:
> 
> 1. Submit bug to remind ourselves to see of we can drop some theme
> packages now to save space (or has this already been done?).

I don't know. But i guess if there are unnecessary packages that haven't
been drop, it would be a good idea to do it.

> 
> 2. Submit a bug to remind ourselves to explain the inclusion of the
> numix-blue source in a debian/README.source file at the next upload.

There were three options identified:
1.) Package NumixBlue properly in Debian, 2.) Package it separately in
Ubuntu, and 3.) Add it temporarily to -look until we can do the first.
We chose the only sensible option there in terms of timing.

> 
> ubuntustudio-default-settings:
> 
> This has not been uploaded yet (currently version 0.62 in Yakkety), but
> Krytarik has prepared the required changes to make numix blue the
> default, which without a full check look fine. Unfortunately, there is
> also a commit to move the lightdm configuration to
> ubuntu-default-settings from the separate source package
> (ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme). This is probably the right thing to do,
> because the us-lightdm-theme package is practically empty now (except
> for this one configuration file). But the timing is unfortunate (so
> close to release), and the changelog entry could have been a bit more
> verbose, explaining that we are moving the config file from one source
> package to another (in preparation for dropping the lightdm package one
> day).
> 
> 1. We should also have a launchpad bug for this change, so we can track
> the eventual removal of the lightdm package (and mention it in the
> changelog).

Good point. I would love to file it so i can unload work-burden for you,
but the level of my confusion in this issue is.. palpable to say the least.

> 
> 2. We have updated debian/control to also provide the us-lightdm-theme
> package. I don't think creating a virtual package is appropriate here.
> It is probably sufficient to just have breaks/replaces so that
> us-lightdm-theme is removed on upgrade.

I hope Krytarik wants to step in here because i know neither what are
the pros nor what are the cons of "virtual package" and "breaks/replaces" :/

> 
> 3. We also seem to have added a dependency on xubuntu-icon-theme, which
> is not explained in the changelog. Do we know why this is required?

xubuntu-icon-theme was a depend of -lightdm-theme, hence they were moved
over with it.

> 
> ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme (currently version 0.9 9n yakkety & xenial):
> 
> As I said above, us-lightdm is practically empty, except for this one
> config file that we should move to default-settings. However, I notice
> at the last upload we changed to a tidier way of using a maintainer
> script to remove the old config file (which was renamed at this
> version). I am not 100% sure, but by setting the lastversion that the
> config file existed to 0.9, the config file may not be removed in an
> upgrade to Xenial. It probably should have said 0.8. This maintainer
> script should probably also be moved to the default-settings package in
> the merge above, so that us-lightdm-theme can be removed eventually.
> This theory needs some testing.

This is very hard for me to assimilate, but what i know is that
ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme 0.9 was already released in Xenial

> 
&

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Final push before release.

2016-09-30 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi list,

As you probably know, next week is Release Candidate and the week after
is the Final release. I am facing 2 major difficulties in timing:
- My mom is visiting me from Switzerland during RC
- I start working on a new job full-time the day before RC.

It should be fine anyways, but i feel i need to inform you since i will
not be as available as i would like to.

How will it be looking with you guys? Will you be around?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

2016-09-23 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-09-23 08:49, One Chamois wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> Here is the third version of the video, as always rendered with 50 samples.
> 
> Are the texts slow enough now? The video is more or less 3 seconds
> longer than the last one, but if it is still too fast I will change it.
> 
> https://youtu.be/QgBex9DwUVY
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
Awesome! Its really great! Thank you for being so open to feedback and
for your efforts.

On thing just hit me, under "photo" you include "Shotwell", we do not
distribute that anymore, but you could add "RawTherapee" instead and 2
make it 3, add "phatch" :)

In audio, i would add JACK... also just to make it 3 like in most other
categories.

Big up One Chamois! You rock!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.10 Final Beta

2016-09-18 Thread Set Hallstrom
fredagen den 16:e september 2016 kl. 13:14:39 CEST, Ross Gammon 
<ubuntustu...@the-gammons.net> skrev:
Just a quick note that I will be travelling due to work next 
week, and I won't be around for the final Beta release which I 
think is on Thursday.


Are there others around to help with the testing of the ISO and 
let the Release Team know when it is ready?


Regards,

Ross


I will be arround :) i can't coordinate for all flavours like last time 
because i'll have some homework for job applications to do... but i believe 
i have the necessary access to mark the ISOs ready.


Wish you a safe travel and look forward to read you again! :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

2016-09-18 Thread Set Hallstrom
söndagen den 18:e september 2016 kl. 11:09:15 CEST, Jonathan Aquilina 
<jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> skrev:
Did not mean to derail the thread, I did leave it be and the 
funny thing this is outlook 2016 on an office 365 subscription. 
Email provider is me myself and I on my own server setup. Anyway 
no harm no foul and sorry for the noise.




no worries. It's always better to be safe than sorry anyways :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

2016-09-18 Thread Set Hallstrom




From: ubuntu-studio-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com 
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Of One Chamois

Sent: 18 September 2016 09:33
To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

 


Hello everyone!

I'm sending you the second version of the video.

As the first version, this video is rendered with 50 samples.

https://youtu.be/QZaXJIk6kQU

Best regards



This is great!!! \o/ thank you very much!!! i can probably suck it down 
from youtube, i'd very much like to serve the file from archive.org or our 
own server if we embedd it on the website.


Let me know if you want me to render it for you. :)

söndagen den 18:e september 2016 kl. 09:37:20 CEST, Jonathan Aquilina 
<jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> skrev:

This is odd,

The attachment is a .sql file. Im suspecting spam here.



i see no attachement, but a link. This is defenitly not spam. Maybe 
something with how your client interpretates mails in different formats? 
Ask your mail provider maybe? I don't know, but i would just let that file 
be if i was you.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] A bit of story and promotion

2016-09-15 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-09-14 17:57, ttoine wrote:
> Guys,
> 
> Just to let you know, we will have a bit of promotion this fall from
> http://opensource.com (FYI, operated by Red Hat).
> 
> My first article has been published today:
> https://opensource.com/life/16/9/my-linux-story-musician
> 

Awesome, Merci Antoine! :) Nice article also! I was glad to read a
mention to framasoft. I got in touch with them when i co-organized RMLL
(LSM) in Geneva 2012. I really like that community, and i wish every
language had an equivalent.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

2016-09-11 Thread Set Hallstrom
söndagen den 11:e september 2016 kl. 

lördagen den 10:e september 2016 kl. 21:03:49 CEST, One Chamois
<onecham...@gmail.com> skrev:

Hello everyone!


https://youtu.be/_Q2qA6JZl8g




one thing that hits me now, is that the logo is wrong and also the 
woodmark. its important that you use the correct ones available here:


http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files

sorry, i could have pointed you to that earlier, but i wasn't aware you had 
already started. if rendertime is an issue for you, you can send me the 
blendfile and i'll render it for you :)



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

2016-09-10 Thread Set Hallstrom
lördagen den 10:e september 2016 kl. 21:03:49 CEST, One Chamois 
<onecham...@gmail.com> skrev:

Hello everyone!


https://youtu.be/_Q2qA6JZl8g



holy  kazo!

wow! ... WOW! 
short, precise, good looking and loopable!


i'm in awe, so my spontaneous reaction is 'awesome'! :) <3


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Website

2016-09-09 Thread Set Hallstrom

Hi!

First of, thanks to everyone who's been involved with this! It looks 
promissing so far and i remain optimistic that we will be able to have it 
ready before 16.10 release!


tisdagen den 16:e augusti 2016 kl. 22:29:51 CEST, eylul 
<ey...@ubuntustudio.org> skrev:

Hi!

So, the bulk of the website is done, and it would be great to deploy it 
before we have to focus on the release. This gives us until the end of 
September or so.


Good, i thought i was overdue that date. This sounds realistic :)


Below is an overview of what needs done. Feel free to add to this.


TODO BEFORE DEPLOY:

* We need the links/licenses on stock images used in creation of the 
background images, before we can put the site up. Even if these are 
CC-0, it is best to have that information stored somewhere. If they are 
other forms of creative commons, depending on the license we might need 
to credit them.


Yes this is very important! For the record, Geirdal seems too busy, but we 
have backup material :)




The keyboard photo belongs to Set. Geirdal could you give us links to 
the rest of stock photos you used, so that we have a record of that 
information?



CONTENT REVIEW:

A good portion of the content of the website has either been 
substantially edited, or written from scratch. Here is a list of all 
static pages, with some notes where extra scrutiny is especially needed.


Could we commit to finish this review by end of August?


ah... well seems not, lol!



0) General:

* is the footer correct?


looks good, though, i would suggest leaving creds to knome for the theme as 
is, but link to a textfile containing credits for the rest of the material 
instead of potentially having a miles long footer-text with zillions of 
links.




* is the menu correct?

* are we missing any critical pages or content before putting up the site?


I would say a FAQ..(could be contained in Support maybe?) but i'm not too 
sure about what the FAQs are, except for the security disclaimer we 
discussed earlier this summer and perhaps some reccurent PAVU with JACK 
questions, the 'can i use US to create commercial work' etc... we could 
probably fill it up along peu à peu..




1) Front page: http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/

* is "downloads" link working?

* are social media accounts correct?


looks correct to me. on desktop, the gap between the first container and 
the feature tour is quite big and i fear the FT might go unnoticed. Could 
we either make the gap smaller or have a button in the first container or 
in the menu with an anchor link that 'scrolls' down to the FT?


* feature tour and general information had a few eyes on it already, but 
it wouldn't hurt to review.


2) Downloads: http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/downloads/

* are links working? (especially the ones to 16.04).



looks ok, but i would like to try again on a desktop (reviewing from my 
phone can't test magnet links)


* the text is copy pasted and reformatted from the current site, but it 
can use a quick review.


3) Support: http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/support/



You guys made a great job here, eylul and krytarik \o/ its friendly and 
professional. i would like to add links to scribus wiki and inkscape forum. 
I'll provide you that next week unless you get there before ;)



 Contribute: http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/contribute/



Same as support, my 8 thumbs up for the text! i hear the ubuntu facebook 
group is helpfull, perhaps put a link to that for those affraid of IRC? ( 
yes, that came from me :D )


* double checking of outside links, especially making sure webchat and 
mailing list links work.


* these two went through some reviewing already but there are also new 
content. Thus, it wouldn't hurt to check.




&=(^^,)<--- me with one of my thumbs up, the other 7 don't fit in the 
frame.



4) Merchandise: http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/merchandise/

* is the "legal" section information correct?

* any other missing/incorrect information?



looks good to me, perhaps ttoine can chip in here? i'll poke him if he 
doesn't see this mail. :)



PLUGIN AND THEME

* From what I understand, we do need to have the Live Compositor plugin 
and the child theme uploaded to the main site, before we can move the 
content.




i think i need to file a RT ticket for that, will take care of it next 
week... shouldn't be a problem (fingers crossed, touching wood)




Thanks :)

Best,

eylul



Thank you for your drive with this eylul, it looks very promissing!! \o/



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Image copyright information and website

2016-09-05 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-09-05 16:11, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> very jagetty to me...

I mean, very pixelated, lo-fi... :)
sorry

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Image copyright information and website

2016-09-05 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-09-05 13:26, eylul wrote:
> Hi Geirdal,
> 
> I know you are busy :), but could you give us the attribution links for
> the photographs and other 3rd party resources you used to create the
> website background images, sometime this week? Even if they are public
> domain, it would be best to have the record of that somewhere, and if
> they are creative commons, we need to be able to attribute them.

Also, we need this picture in higher resolution:
http://www.ubuntustudio.zequence.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/graphic_03.png

I suspect its the butched out versions i did with heavy cropping? Looks
very jagetty to me...

> 
> Also would everybody have any objections to getting the new site moving
> out of stage to ubuntustudio.org, sometime before the end of this week?
> 

That sounds like a plan. :) Would that be a good time frame for you
Geirdal? :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Important: Ubuntu/Debian Security Hole

2016-08-31 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-30 22:31, Yoshi wrote:
>  security hole in the
> "Ubuntu/Debian update mechanism" involving authentication and
> signatures

Got to be reffering to this:
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/08/powerful_bit-fl.html

"breaking OpenSSH public-key authentication, and forging GPG signatures
from trusted keys"

Sounds like hard times for security experts and the web of trust. :(

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Testing - Ubuntu Studio Yakkety 16.10 coming soon!

2016-08-24 Thread Set Hallstrom

Looks like we had a re-spin 30 minutes ago. The good news is that it
built OK and that it is in the tracker :)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Testing - Ubuntu Studio Yakkety 16.10 coming soon!

2016-08-24 Thread Set Hallstrom
Finally, the ISO built!! \o/

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds
The tracker needs a little moment to refresh, so if you open the page
and you see the version of the Ubuntu Studio ISO is 20160818 it means
you have to wait jst a little more. :)

If you are new to this, you will find Ross's excellent explanations on
how to proceed here bellow.

Yours,
Set

On 2016-08-21 17:37, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> We are just coming up to the busy period now, on the approach to the
> release of Ubuntu Studio Yakkety.
> 
> So if you would like to help out, please dust off that old PC you have
> laying about, or that spare external disk, and download the latest daily
> Yakkety ISO so that you are ready to go when the time comes.
> 
> I am told that the latest ISO is not working, but it is still a good
> idea to download it, and then you can use zsync to update to the latest
> ISO (instead of a complete new download) once it is successfully
> rebuilt. The latest Yakkety dailies can be found here:
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/360/builds
> Click on either the amd64 link, or the i386 one, for Ubuntu Studio.
> There you will find three installation Test Cases, and a link to the
> download information.
> 
> Sing out on the "-devel" list or IRC if you need help.
> 
> Note: Please don't install anything on a machine with stuff you don't
> want to lose! We don't want any tears.
> 
> Thursday August 25th - Yakkety Beta 1
> -
> 
> In the days leading up to the Beta 1 release, a link for "Yakkety Beta
> 1" will appear on this page:
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker
> This is the time to zsync to the latest ISO, and begin running the 3
> installation tests, and reporting your findings, good or bad. Don't be
> scared to file a bug. They can always be closed.
> 
> Be aware that if serious bugs are found, there might be a rebuild of the
> ISO triggered, and we will have to run the tests again.
> 
> It is important that we have as many testers as possible, and find as
> may bugs as possible, so that we have time to try and fix them before
> the release in October.
> 
> Application Testing
> ---
> 
> In addition to the installation tests above, we also need to
> continuously test our main Ubuntu Studio applications. Once you have a
> working Yakkety development release installation, go to our package
> tracker and run a few of our 20 manual test cases:
> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/361/builds/117793/testcases
> 
> These test cases just give you the steps to gently check that the
> applications still run without crashing. If you know the program, you
> are of course welcome to "kick the tyres" a bit harder!
> 
> End
> ---
> 
> Thanks for reading this far :-)
> 
> Please get stuck into the testing and help make Yakkety a great release.
> If you would like some personal satisfaction along the way, see if you
> can become a top tester:
> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/testers
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ross Gammon
> 
> 


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] FW: LiveFS ubuntustudio/yakkety/i386 failed tobuild on 20160824

2016-08-24 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-24 13:06, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> On 2016-08-24 09:19, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>> On 2016-08-24 08:35, Ross Gammon wrote:
>>> The ubuntustudio-meta update that fixes this is stuck in
>>> yskkety-proposed. If anyone is on IRC today, could you ask on -release
>>> for it to Be inblocked?
>>
>> on it :)
>>
> Ok... after a long wait, for things to update and what not, i just
> trigger the rebuild
> 
> Touch wood, keep fingers crossed, and all that jazz :D
> 


nd we have an ISO! \o/


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] FW: LiveFS ubuntustudio/yakkety/i386 failed tobuild on 20160824

2016-08-24 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-24 09:19, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> On 2016-08-24 08:35, Ross Gammon wrote:
>> The ubuntustudio-meta update that fixes this is stuck in
>> yskkety-proposed. If anyone is on IRC today, could you ask on -release
>> for it to Be inblocked?
> 
> on it :)
> 
Ok... after a long wait, for things to update and what not, i just
trigger the rebuild

Touch wood, keep fingers crossed, and all that jazz :D

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] FW: LiveFS ubuntustudio/yakkety/i386 failed tobuild on 20160824

2016-08-24 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-24 08:35, Ross Gammon wrote:
> The ubuntustudio-meta update that fixes this is stuck in
> yskkety-proposed. If anyone is on IRC today, could you ask on -release
> for it to Be inblocked?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] support for wine-rt out-of-box?

2016-08-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi Hank!

On 2016-08-19 08:47, Hank Stanglow wrote:
> Hello, I am a Web Developer, Artist, Musician, and long time user of
> Ubuntu Studio. You guys do a great job! This distribution gives me the
> best out-of-box experience for Web Development and I find the Art and
> Publishing tools perfectly adequate for my needs. 

Thank you for reaching out with your input in such an uplifting tone!

> Music and Video? Not
> so much, but this a problem for all Linux distributions. In fact, after
> seven years of fumbling with the JACK/ALSA/Pulse nightmare I've given up
> using native tools and now use WINE exclusively for audio work. Even KX
> Studio has more problems than I care to deal with and the only thing I
> take from its repos is wine-rt. If I were to make ONE suggestion for
> Ubuntu Studio it would be to have a super stable, low-latency WINE-rt
> environment for audio users (or good instructions on how to set one up).

I agree that the state of Linux in terms of Music is tougher than
mainstream OS. Since i mainly record hardware electronics, it isn't much
of an issue for me personally. But lately I've grown pretty fond of
qtractor for ITB (In The Box) production with midi controlled Software
synthesizers. I have yet to finish a song to prove my point, but while
it is a little wilder than i remember ITB production from other OS'es,
it actually works :) For video editing i always have to point towards
blender's VSE which has become pretty awesome if one has got the time to
get familiar with its GUI.

I'm not 100% sure, but i think wine isn't distributed because of the
license. However, your idea of creating good instruction on how to set
it up is an excellent one. In fact, we really need help with
documentation. If you have any spare time to share, you are welcome to
join the ubuntustudio-documentation team. Maybe pass by our IRC channel
sometime on freenode #ubuntustudio-devel and say hi?:)

> 
> That said, I am currently NOT using Ubuntu Studio as of 16.04. This is
> because of one reason only, that is, too many bugs in Thunar. I know
> could install a different tool (pcmanfm is great), but the file manager
> is an integral part of a system and I really love Thunar above others. I
> also know this has nothing to do with Ubuntu Studio. I hope the
> XFCE/Thunar team can quickly fix their wonderful DE. As soon as they do
> I will be back with Ubuntu Studio. In the meantime I am using Ubuntu
> MATE, which is pretty good! Has you ever considered a MATE version?
> Though I imagine it would be impractical to support two desktop
> environments...

Sorry to read your issues with Thunar. I'm aware there is a problem, but
i haven't yet had to suffer it. *touching wood*. At this point, we don't
really have any plans to move to MATE, but we've had an ambition
floating for long now, to make Ubuntu Studio desktop agnostic. The main
concern in that aspect is that the team is very small ATM. Hence i allow
myself to insist again, that you are welcome to join the team and help
us make things like this become reality. :)

> 
> Thanks for your hard work and have a super day,
> Hank
> 

Thank you for your uplifting email! I hope we will hear from you soon
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.10 Beta 1 Freeze

2016-08-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-20 11:28, Ross Gammon wrote:
> I think that flocculant was after a volunteer to manage the
> whole Beta release for ALL the flavours.

gaahdat misunderstanding... i thought he ment from _our_ flavour and
i answered you and me... :(
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.10 Beta 1 Freeze

2016-08-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
lördagen den 20:e augusti 2016 kl. 11:01:47 CEST, Kaj Ailomaa 
<zeque...@mousike.me> skrev:



On Sat, Aug 20, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Set Hallstrom wrote:
tisdagen den 16:e augusti 2016 kl. 22:55:37 CEST, Set Hallstrom 
<s...@ubuntustudio.org> skrev:
> 
> Ok, thanks guys! I'll let the release team know we are in.
> Regarding the theme changes, if i understood Kaj correctly 
on IRC today,

> we have until UI freeze on September 8th to land them...
> 
> Yours,


I reached out and i've been asked who is holding it from our side. I 
assumed Ross would, but the question made me realise he hasn't answered
yet 
and might be too busy, in which case i guess i could do it, unless there 
are some permissions needed that i don't behold. I'm reading up on the 
process anyway..


At the moment, this page says Kaj is the contact for it:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta1

is that correct or copypasta?

Yours,




Just change that page and put you and Ross on it instead of me - I'm not
the contact. Make those links to your LP pages as well.
I have made an announcement on the -release list about Ross being our
testing lead and also on -devel about you being project lead, but could
be someone missed or forgot that. Sooner or later they will remember who
is who.



Thank you Kaj, i'll do that. Just to be clear, my main concern about the 
contact field was that you would end up being solicitated against your 
will. :) I'm very thankful that you are still around...



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.10 Beta 1 Freeze

2016-08-20 Thread Set Hallstrom
tisdagen den 16:e augusti 2016 kl. 22:55:37 CEST, Set Hallstrom 
<s...@ubuntustudio.org> skrev:


Ok, thanks guys! I'll let the release team know we are in.
Regarding the theme changes, if i understood Kaj correctly on IRC today,
we have until UI freeze on September 8th to land them...

Yours,


I reached out and i've been asked who is holding it from our side. I 
assumed Ross would, but the question made me realise he hasn't answered yet 
and might be too busy, in which case i guess i could do it, unless there 
are some permissions needed that i don't behold. I'm reading up on the 
process anyway..


At the moment, this page says Kaj is the contact for it:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/Beta1

is that correct or copypasta?

Yours,


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.10 Beta 1 Freeze

2016-08-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-16 20:31, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> It's a good time to do a first evaluation of the state of the distro. It
> is just after Debian import freeze, and an excellent chance to test the
> Debian imported packages so there is time to catch and fix any obvious
> bugs. So, yes from me.
> 
> On 2016-08-16 20:36, Len Ovens wrote:
>> It seems all our seeds changes are in, so I would say yes. This assumes
>> you can still make the theme changes after such a freeze
> 

Ok, thanks guys! I'll let the release team know we are in.
Regarding the theme changes, if i understood Kaj correctly on IRC today,
we have until UI freeze on September 8th to land them...

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Website

2016-08-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
Thanks Eylul!

Awesome! I'll go through all the points asap.

On 2016-08-16 22:29, eylul wrote:
> 
> The keyboard photo belongs to Set.
For the record, the license is CC-BY :)

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.10 Beta 1 Freeze

2016-08-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi all,

Do we want to participate in Beta 1 Freeze next week?
Beta 1 Freeze (Monday), and Beta 1 release on Thursday...

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Ardour 5 just landed in debian

2016-08-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi,

Len just announced on IRC that Ardour 5 landed in debian
https://packages.qa.debian.org/a/ardour.html

Do i read this correctly:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages#Requesting_a_new_package_for_Ubuntu

if i think it will be synced automatically, since FF and DIF is tomorrow?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and Numix

2016-08-16 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-16 08:51, Ross Gammon wrote:
> The bzr incantation looks OK to me from memory.
> 
> In general, if the work is a little bit experimental, I think it is
> better to make a "fiddle" branch locally before starting the
> modifications. That branch can then be pushed to your own ppa, or the
> team one for review and eventually merging back into trunk.
>
> But no problems, if you push as Krytarik says, a new branch should
> appear on the -dev code page of Launchpad.
> 
> Sorry about the rush. Wanted to reassure you so you can keep moving
> (although this will need moderation anyway).
> 

Thank you for taking the time Ross. :)
I pushed it to the team, here:
https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-look/numix-blue-theme

I'm still struggling with the concepts of version-control software
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and Numix

2016-08-15 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hello Ross

On 2016-08-10 17:24, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Aah, I think I misunderstood the original discussion. I thought it was
> about moving to the same theme as xubuntu and tweaking some settings in
> the defualt-setting package. No need to package anything.
> 
> Are we sure about this? I thought we could get numix from the
> shimmer-themes source package:
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes
> At least the gtk-themes are there. But then, as I wrote before, I have
> never really fiddled with themes very much.

Yes, we can get it from there, but the highlight color is red. I'm fine
with that, but it would be nice if it was blue to fit our color scheme
better. :)

> Packaging something from scratch and getting it uploaded into either
> Debian or Ubuntu (preferably Debian) is not something that will happen
> very fast. Probably better to aim for 17.04.
> 

Yes, to get a custom version into Debian and Ubuntu would rather be an
aim for 17.04. But i understand we could package it in our own
repository, no?

> Are you talking about this software?:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/~numix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
> And if so, which of the packages are we after. If it is in a ppa, it
> does at least have some basic packaging we can start with.

Yes, (although, i've never seen a link to launchpad like that before..
X-D ) but the debian source is at a newer version. 2.6.1

> Of course I am happy to mentor Jonathan. I am very patchy with
> availability, so it would be better to do it here on the list. Then
> others can learn at the same time.

Jonathan seems to need to set-up a machine first, i hope he will join-in
down the line once he is ready. However, Krytarik and I have been
looking into this the past few days. We gathered the source SVGs from
upstream to facilitate color-customization
https://github.com/numixproject/numix-gtk-theme/issues/508
and successfully made a script to convert the theme's colors and
re-render the required PNGs.

Krytarik asked me to push the custom theme to
lp:ubuntustudio-look/numix-blue-theme so that he could work on the
packaging into our repository. But i am stuck by my fear to mess-up the
ubuntustudio-look branch with my poor bzr skills.

Could you help me Ross?

This is what i have done so far:

- I pulled the branch with:
bzr branch lp:ubuntustudio-look

- I pulled the debian source of numix, and edited is as needed to turn
everything red into blue.

What i am stuck with is really a noob thing: i'm not sure how to push if
i want the theme to be a spearate branch...

i've been told (i think) by Krytarik that i could do:
'bzr push lp:~ubuntustudio-look/numix-theme-blue'
but i am affraid i might have misunderstood Krytarik's instructions and
since he is not available atm i'm asking here. The thing is that i don't
want the 'usr' and 'po' folders from ubuntustudio-look/trunk to be in
ubuntustudio-look/numix-theme-blue...

I hope i'm making sense and that we still have the time frame to do this.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Freeze & Debian Import Freeze for Yakkety

2016-08-12 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-11 07:04, Ross Gammon wrote:
> On 08/10/2016 07:40 PM, Ross Gammon wrote:
>> I will be concentrating on merging our packages that are out of date
>> compared to Debian unstable over the next week. If you are game to help
>> out with that, there is some information here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
> 
> Scratch that.
> 
> There were a few packages out of date compared to Debian, but not by
> very much, and we are not missing out on any bug fixes. I will keep
> still keep an eye out for any new uploads to Debian.
> 
> 

Hi!

Very happy to know you have it in check. :) I am game to learn and i
read the wiki, so if something shows up, ping the thread and I'll try my
best to join efforts.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-12 Thread Set Sakrecoer

On 2016-08-12 14:55, ttoine wrote:

Set, can we add the Hellotux shop to this page on the website?
http://ubuntustudio.org/merchandise/

I would also like to start the work on the Stickermule stickers, I will 
of

course send you the prototype before, to be sure you all agree.

BTW, I see that the legal stuff at the bottom is already good, we just 
have

to add a mention about Hellotux:
"A Condition for this license is that we don’t take commission for the
products that we make available at ubuntustudio.spreadshirt.net,
hellotux.com, and stickermule.com."



Yes. Something like the xubuntu guys, i reckon: 
https://xubuntu.org/products/


However, we are working on a new website. Do you think it is urgent, or 
can it wait until it is complete? bThe stage is here: 
http://ubuntustudio.zequence.net/ and you are welcome to join in and 
help/feed-back/, of course :) Here is part of the research material: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/WebsiteXenial


I hope we have it done for 16.10 release, but with a little help we 
might be able to finish it before that... ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-12 Thread Set Hallstrom

On 2016-08-12 13:13, ttoine wrote:
> Something like: Ubuntu Studio, CoF logo and Ubuntu Studio logo are 
> registered trademarks of Canonical. You can use them following 
> Canonical Intellectual property rights policy.
> 
> the link:
> 
http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy#your-use-of-our-trademarks
> 
> I think this should be enough. And if Canonical needs more, they will
> contact us (they contact me from time to time for this kind of 
> stuff)

Thank you! :)

> my aim was just to make it clear who I am, my background, my
> opinions.

It's so difficult to come through the way one wishes in text alone.
After all, even with lots of formulation efforts to stay
inclusive and neutral, our written words resonate in someone else's
head, along with their own emotions, their own current states of mind,
withing the boundaries of their culture, in the voice of their choice,
far beyond the emitters control.

Something i constantly need to remind myself of...

Anyways i am very glad you did that introduction of yourself, better
there and then, than never :) Like i wrote: i find your dedication and
expertise admirable and it is good to know you are around.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-12 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-12 11:28, ttoine wrote:
> Set, thanks a lot for your answer. I think that instead having this
> ressource on Launchpad, we should have a page on our website, like
> this: https://eclipse.org/artwork/ With all the ressources available
> to download. And a disclaimer, telling what you can do or not do, and
> how to contact us. This would make it easier.

That is a very good idea! We should make a section like that on the new
website. Can you/would you have time to help us formulate the
guide-lines / disclaimer? I think you are the most knowledgeable member
in that regard..

> So, even with Set clarification about Ralf's tone, I will take time
> to answer to him, because I would like things to be transparents.

I have to say, i'm personally very interested in your work and also glad
to learn more about your history in Ubuntu Studio, your investments. The
more i get to know about you, the more i admire you Antoine. If i could
wish something, it would be that i would have gotten to know these
details in a more... positive context.

I don't know much about Ralf contribution to FLOSS at large, but i can
back my claim that despite his harsh tone, he has helped many users
solve their problems. At the end of the day, his contribution on the
user-list is mostely very precious.

I know i might sound out of my league due to that recent flame-thread i
was a partialy responsible of, but if it teached me something it is that
we are not here to rank each others benevolent participation. Please
continue the discussion off-list if you have to and stay kind to each other.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-12 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi guys,

Thank you ttoine, for being as transparent as you can, it is highly
appreciated. I fear It does look like they might be using the malformed
CoF and the woodmark does appear to be different from the official one.
You will find the appropriate source-files here:

https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard

Thank you Thomas for being concerned about the visual-identity and
thoroughly checking the details. However, AFAIK the CoF is ok to use on
a white background, as you will see in the branch above.

Finally thank you Ralf for pointing out the responsibility that comes
with endorsement. While i do _not_ think that a license in purity is
required to address social/environmental/ethical issues, i think there
are ways to address these issues that are better than others. My
personal relation to you, Ralf, allows me to see through your currently
very unpleasant tone and mentally "hear" your fundamentally good
intentions, but i cringe a bit when i put myself in the shoes of other
people reading you. I cannot speak for ttoine, but i think he means
"ubuntustudio devel-team" when he says "we" in this context. I know you
don't see yourself as a part of this team, Ralf, but as long as you will
participate in discussions here, you become a team-member in the eye of
the list-readers. If you want to continue to discuss things here with
us, i kindly ask you to use a different, less absolute approach and to
mind your tone.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and Numix

2016-08-07 Thread Set Hallstrom
söndagen den 7:e augusti 2016 kl. 13:23:40 CEST, Jonathan Aquilina 
<jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> skrev:
I will try and get a vm running and so I can try things out 
that is if you want me to take charge and contribute :)




You are very welcome to contribute :) Drop by the IRC channel 
#ubuntustudio-devel on freenode sometime and have a chat with us (if you 
aren't already there). If it's quiet it just means everyone is sleeping 
(majority of the group is in Europe) or busy elsewhere at that moment :)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and Numix

2016-08-07 Thread Set Hallstrom
lol, my bad. my settings in the mailing list doesn't send me copies if i'm 
already among the recipients, and my mobil client requires a click to show 
the full recipient list :D


let me add i was very happy to find your email this morning :) it would be 
so awesome to have a customized theme!


Krytarik suggested we look into how to package it for debian, so that more 
distros can benefit from it. What do you guys think? Ross, could you 
help/guide Jonathan on this one?


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and Numix

2016-08-07 Thread Set Hallstrom

Hi Jonathan,

Basically it consists in always making sure that our modified branch stays 
consistent with the changes made upstream.


I'm told that is in a few steps basically, just 1.) pull the source 
somehow, 2.) install the build depends, 3.) 'sed' the thing, to replace the 
colors 4.) run 'make' in its top directory.


I understand it can be challenging and intimidating to answer to the list, 
but i would prefer if you asked via that chanel in the future. It doesn't 
bother me that you adress me in private, on the contrary: i feel honored. 
What i'm thinking is that often times the group has better answers than me 
alone and other devels night benefit from your questions and the answers it 
generates :) Its just a matter of transparency: motivation is contagious ;)


have nice sunday!

yours,
Sakrecoer

lördagen den 6:e augusti 2016 kl. 23:14:55 CEST, Jonathan Aquilina 
<jaquil...@eagleeyet.net> skrev:
Hi Set, 


Can you advise what it will contain to help maintain a UStudio branch of
numix?

On 2016-08-06 23:13, Set Hallstrom wrote:

On 2016-08-05 21:47, Ross Gammon wrote: 


I saw it :-)

I have always been very boring, and just got on with what ever default
theme was given to me by my distro. So I generally don't have much of an
opinion in this area.

So - a go for it from me. The less delta we have from xubuntu, the
easier it is to get help from those guys.

Cheers,

Ross


Thanks Ross :)

It seems that changing the highlight color of Numix to our blue is a
harder task than expected and would imply maintaining our own branch of
it. Not sure we have anyone who is up for that.

In short: Numix would work /if/ we can live with red highlight color?
Then again, non of the existing ready made options i know of fit the
Ubuntu Studio color scheme fully.

Anyone else want to have a say or have ideas? Or better: maybe someone
wants to maintain a Numix UbuntuStudioBlue theme for us? :)

Let's think about it until Wednesday 10th august ;)
 





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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and Numix (was: unmet dependencies)

2016-08-06 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-05 21:47, Ross Gammon wrote:
> I saw it :-)
> 
> I have always been very boring, and just got on with what ever default
> theme was given to me by my distro. So I generally don't have much of an
> opinion in this area.
> 
> So - a go for it from me. The less delta we have from xubuntu, the
> easier it is to get help from those guys.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ross

Thanks Ross :)

It seems that changing the highlight color of Numix to our blue is a
harder task than expected and would imply maintaining our own branch of
it. Not sure we have anyone who is up for that.

In short: Numix would work /if/ we can live with red highlight color?
Then again, non of the existing ready made options i know of fit the
Ubuntu Studio color scheme fully.

Anyone else want to have a say or have ideas? Or better: maybe someone
wants to maintain a Numix UbuntuStudioBlue theme for us? :)

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and Numix (was: unmet dependencies)

2016-08-05 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi all,

Bellow i paste this email i sent Thu, 28 Jul 2016  to ask you for your
opinion. It got nested in another thread, so i break it lose to make
sure everyone sees it.

(
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2016-July/007973.html
)

Since feature freeze is around the corner, if no one objects before
Sunday 7th august, i will proceed and do the changes from greybird to
numix as default theme with ubuntu studio blue as highligt color, and
switch from murrine to shimmer as xubuntu have done.

Yours,
Set


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Subject: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and numix (was: unmet dependencies)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 13:48:33 +0200
From: Set Hallstrom <s...@ubuntustudio.org>
Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Development <ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>
Organization: Ubuntu Studio
To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com

[snip]

I've been looking into the theme thing with krytarik. As is now, we ship
ubuntu studio with greybird as default theme. Last time we discussed the
theme/look of the desktop, i want to remember many of us agreed on
finding a darker theme.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/murrine-themes
http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/shimmer-themes

Both Murrine and Shimmer have greybird (our default theme atm). But
shimmer is shipped with Numix. And Numix is a pretty excellent theme.

The cons as i see them for Numix are these:

- The way focused windows differentiate themselves from other (same as
greybird)
- The very thin window border makes it hard to catch the corners to
resize (same as gryebird)

The pros:

- It hear it is well maintained, like gerybird.
- While it is dark, unlike most dark-themes you never get problems with
webpage searchboxes displaying white text on white background.

The default highlight color of numix is red, but krytarik found a fix
from xubuntu unicorn to address this and let us have ubuntustudio blue
instead.

So, if i sound like i am pushing for a shift from murrine to shimmer and
for shipping 16.10 with numix as default theme and window header, you
got me alright. :D But of course, we need to agree on it first.

What are your thoughts, team?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Trusty .5 release

2016-08-05 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-08-04 16:30, Ross Gammon wrote:
> One of my early open source mentors says often:
> "The great thing about open source is that you go to bed with a problem
> that needs fixing (or work still to do), and find in the morning that
> someone fixed it for you"
> 

:)

> Thanks to Kaj, Stefan Bader & Andy Whitcroft, I have just come home to
> discover that the Ubuntu Studio Trusy 14.04.5 ISOs have been tested and
> marked as ready. Thanks guys!

Yes, thank you guys! I have to admit i was guilt-tripping myself a lot
for not being able to participate and reminding everyone so late. So I
sent a launchpad pm to Stefan Bader and Andy Whitcroft to thank them and
to endorse responsibility for the poor participation. I am very happy
you guys made it, including you Ross; even if it seems the final RC came
too late for you to try it, you were there doing your best.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-04 Thread Set Hallstrom
torsdagen den 4:e augusti 2016 kl. 15:32:36 CEST, ttoine 
<tto...@ttoine.net> skrev:

Set,

Yes, when this is available, a blog/Facebook post would be great.



Cool! keep us posted and we'll sort it out with cfhowlett :)


About my "activism", I was thinking it could be could to let the team know
what I am doing now and why I am less active. Anyway, I am still around :-)



It is very nice of you to share, indeed. :) I'm sure many in the group 
would like to teach FLOSS multimedia in a University, i certainly would. 
Just knowing it is possible is mighty motivating :)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-04 Thread Set Hallstrom
torsdagen den 4:e augusti 2016 kl. 13:51:56 CEST, ttoine 
<tto...@ttoine.net> skrev:

@Len,

I already have the permission, yes. But it is important for me to ask you:
I am not alone to be involved with Ubuntu Studio.



And thank you for that :)


And btw, I also know that my contributions are less visible: I teach how to
use open source software to produce audio and video at the University in my
area, I run my small music label with Ubuntu and Mixbus or Ardour. And most
important, I work for open source editors since 2013, and now for the
Eclipse Foundation. As my job is to work for the promotion of open source,
I like to do something else in my hobbies ;-)



Awesome and understandable. Just to be safe, i want to insist that i was 
not questioning your activism, simply stating the fact that i'm happy to 
read you. :)



I will let hellotux know that they can do the shirts.



Maybe we should announce it on our social media and link to hellotux on the 
website?


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Trusty .5 release

2016-08-03 Thread Set Hallstrom
onsdagen den 3:e augusti 2016 kl. 17:03:55 CEST, Ross Gammon 
<ro...@ubuntustudio.org> skrev:

On 08/02/2016 10:34 AM, Set Hallstrom wrote:

Copy pasta Kaj's mail, with updated link:


ISOs and test cases can be found here

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/365/builds


If you want to help out, make sure to get yourself a
https://launchpad.net account,
login, and then follow instructions on the link above for testing and
reporting results. Also, please report any bugs you find.

There may be rebuilds until Thursday, so we may need to redo tests a
few times, but consider each ISO a release candidate from now on.






I am around tonight to spin up the ISO's. I might be a bit slow though,
as I am not prepared. If anyone else is around and needs help to join in
the testing. Just look for someone (me) on IRC.




Thank you very much Ross! Sorry i can't be there to help you...

It seems there was a respin of the ISOs a few hours ago... i paste the 
message sent to ubuntu-release mailing list in case you didn't see it..


onsdagen den 3:e augusti 2016 kl. 17:23:46 CEST, Adam Conrad <adconrad@u.m> 
skrev:

Due to a fairly critical bug in X, we're respinning all the 14.04.5
ISOs right now.  I took the opportunity to also slip in a grub2 fix
in the same respin, but otherwise, they should be nearly identical
to the previous images.

Please test ASAP, as we'd like to release on schedule Thursday.







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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-03 Thread Set Hallstrom

Bonjour Antoine,

onsdagen den 3:e augusti 2016 kl. 16:50:00 CEST, ttoine <tto...@ttoine.net> 
skrev:

Actually, I had a discussion in the past with Canonical and they agree to
give me a license to set this kind of merchandising deal with the Ubuntu
Studio logo. That is how it was possible to set the spreadshirt shop.

Canonical is not nice at all when it comes to brand management, btw. 


I ment hellotux, but i admit my answer was oddly put.


They
take great care and I am contacted regularly by their legal department.



Good to know!


This is something many knew a few years ago in the Ubuntu Studio team, but
it seems that many don't know of forget that nowadays ;-)



Yes, most ancient members have moved on.. On that note It's good to see you 
arround! :)



I also think this is why hellotux contacted me directly.


Good to know i can forward this kind of requests to you if they arrive :)

Yours,

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

2016-08-03 Thread Set Hallstrom
tisdagen den 2:e augusti 2016 kl. 18:14:11 CEST, Len Ovens 
<l...@ovenwerks.net> skrev:

On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, ttoine wrote:


Hello guys,
I have an inquiry of the Hellotux shop team to have the right 
to sell shirt with
embroidered Ubuntu Studio logo. It is possible with the 
license I have, if we do
not take any profit from it (like Spreadshirt). And if they 
take the minimum

benefit too.
https://www.hellotux.com/

They agree with that.

So now, I can give them the authorisation, however I would 
like to have your

opinion on that.

What do you think?


It is no different from a printed T in my opinion. It is just another 
option for buyers. I don't know how many items get sold now, but these are 
all one off places so it really doesn't matter.


So that would be a yes from me.

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Afaik, the brand is owned by canonical. It looks like a nice company and i 
agree with Len. I would however ask hellotux to reach out to canonical to 
double check with them since i'm not 100% sure our team has any authority 
to grant commercial use of the branding.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Trusty .5 release (was: Alpha & Beta testing)

2016-08-02 Thread Set Hallstrom

Copy pasta Kaj's mail, with updated link:


ISOs and test cases can be found here

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/365/builds


If you want to help out, make sure to get yourself a https://launchpad.net 
account,
login, and then follow instructions on the link above for testing and
reporting results. Also, please report any bugs you find.

There may be rebuilds until Thursday, so we may need to redo tests a few times, 
but consider each ISO a release candidate from now on.





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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Trusty .5 release (was: Alpha & Beta testing)

2016-08-02 Thread Set Hallstrom
tisdagen den 28:e juni 2016 kl. 20:01:17 CEST, Ross Gammon 
<ros...@ubuntu.com> skrev:



For practise on ISO testing and releasing :-) we also have:
Xenial 16.04.1 point release on 21st July
Trusty 14.04.5 point release on 6th August


I completely forgot about this one until now, as a mail was posted to 
ubuntu-release mailing list this morning, summoning flavours to test it. I 
wont be able to test run it, i'm far from home with no computer at hand... 
:'( 
I hope someone in the group is better prepared...?


I'll follow this mail up in a few moments, with links to doc about how to 
test for new-commers and other kind souls who want to help out (typing from 
phone, bare with me..)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature tour

2016-08-02 Thread Set Hallstrom

Hi WMID,

fredagen den 29:e juli 2016 kl. 02:17:46 CEST, WMID <wachin...@gmail.com> 
skrev:

I like this picture:

http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/16/0729/h_1469751263_9886431_931448cd0b.png




I agree, it's beautiful! Geirdal is a great artist, we are lucky to benefit 
from his output. 



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages

2016-08-02 Thread Set Hallstrom
söndagen den 31:e juli 2016 kl. 21:03:59 CEST, Ross Gammon 
<ros...@ubuntu.com> skrev:

On 07/29/2016 04:55 PM, Ross Gammon wrote:

On 07/28/2016 02:12 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote:

I saw Ross added the 2 audio packages to the seeds \o/
And i took care of 2 first entries for graphics. The seed part is
actually very easy, once you get a grip on the terminology that is.
(seeds? meta? :D) I will try my best to document my progress and compile
it for the wiki.


The metapackages are a little different compared to normal packages,
because there is a special command to run the germination script locally
based on the seeds in the other repository, and update the
debian/control file.

I queried the the process with Kaj offline a while back, with the
intention to add it to the wiki. I will try and find the mail and
forward it. Or I will do it on the wiki for you to test-drive!



I have done better than forward the mail, I have written it up on the
wiki. \o/

Seeds (was mostly there, I just finished it off a bit):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Seeds

Meta Packages (filled in the section already allocated for it):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackageMaintenance

I am in the process of following the instructions myself, to check them.
Then the next time we need to update them, someone else can have a go.
Comments/Suggestions welcome.

Cheers,

Ross



Thank you Ross \o/ For the wiki pages and for fixing the seeds! <3

Yours,


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature tour (was: Seventh try )

2016-07-29 Thread Set Hallstrom
fredagen den 29:e juli 2016 kl. 17:52:35 CEST, Kaj Ailomaa 
<zeque...@mousike.me> skrev:

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016, at 02:33 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote:

On 2016-06-23 02:00, Jóhann Örn Geirdal wrote:
> Seventh try ;)  Hi here is only a base I will ad to it some more but
> what do you think about this?
> http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0

I made a few shots that could work well as complementary pictures to the
more abstracto-figurative pictures Geirdal made for the categories.

I realize they might not be perfect, but maybe you like the idea?

I tried to make one for each category, but i think they all end up
having a lot of "audio focus" maybe it is a good thing? You tell me. One
sure thing is that the "graphic workflow" one, needs a different
on-screen content :D (too "cute, wtf, kindergarten")

http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__1.jpg
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__2.jpg
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__3.jpg

The more i look at Geirdal pictures, the better i like these:

http://geirdal.is/images/studio/audio_x.png
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/graphic_03.png
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/video_x.png

If they are used without the pictograms, like they were intended: as
backgrounds for text and screenshots, i think they are perfect! They
refer to analogue times with very contemporary elements. I think it
emulates what we are quite well: /linux for creative humans/ a digital
product made by analogue robots ;) And they are quiet and noisy at the
same time, which i find to be a really poetic contrast.

I think this one is really beautyfull but it should be used without the
logos for the general "about" text in the feature tour (:
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/studio_07.png

It is risky, but i also find it very cool, fresh and inspiring. 90's
fractal with a millennial twist! This afternoon i will try put together
what i mean in a collage.

I'm convinced that, properly framed on the page, using geirdals pictures
could make the sexiest feature tour, ever :)

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The only thing I would like to remind of is of the "big picgture", which
should be about information. It's easy to become a bit obsessed about
the details of a design, but the importance is still around what the
whole thing informs.

And, what is the information? That is the question that needs to be
answered - not only with graphics, but with  the whole thing.

The current feature tour is old, and should be buried. It should be
replaced by something that does the same thing, but better. Better
information. Better graphics, but most importantly - better information.



Thank you, Kaj!
I tried to base the text
( http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/feature-tour.txt )
and layout as good as i could on your and  autumna's wiki page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions/WebsiteXenial

The text (and me) is begging for review and i'd love to read/see what you 
all think should be corrected both text- and design-wise. I believe it's 
the typical kindof work that gets super strong from teamwork. After all, 
speaking to all, takes many. :)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature tour

2016-07-28 Thread Set Sakrecoer

On 2016-07-28 14:33, Set Hallstrom wrote:

This afternoon i will try put together


Yeah... it became this evening, better than mañana? :D

Anyways, here it is:
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/render.png

Misunderstand me right: this is _not_ how it /must/ look, it is just an 
attempt to put together what we have and render it into something united 
and comprehensible. Hopefully it will help us push the envelope...


I put all the material i used here:
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/website.tar.gz

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature tour (was: Seventh try )

2016-07-28 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-06-23 02:00, Jóhann Örn Geirdal wrote:
> Seventh try ;)  Hi here is only a base I will ad to it some more but
> what do you think about this?
> http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0

I made a few shots that could work well as complementary pictures to the
more abstracto-figurative pictures Geirdal made for the categories.

I realize they might not be perfect, but maybe you like the idea?

I tried to make one for each category, but i think they all end up
having a lot of "audio focus" maybe it is a good thing? You tell me. One
sure thing is that the "graphic workflow" one, needs a different
on-screen content :D (too "cute, wtf, kindergarten")

http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__1.jpg
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__2.jpg
http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/featuretour__3.jpg

The more i look at Geirdal pictures, the better i like these:

http://geirdal.is/images/studio/audio_x.png
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/graphic_03.png
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/video_x.png

If they are used without the pictograms, like they were intended: as
backgrounds for text and screenshots, i think they are perfect! They
refer to analogue times with very contemporary elements. I think it
emulates what we are quite well: /linux for creative humans/ a digital
product made by analogue robots ;) And they are quiet and noisy at the
same time, which i find to be a really poetic contrast.

I think this one is really beautyfull but it should be used without the
logos for the general "about" text in the feature tour (:
http://geirdal.is/images/studio/studio_07.png

It is risky, but i also find it very cool, fresh and inspiring. 90's
fractal with a millennial twist! This afternoon i will try put together
what i mean in a collage.

I'm convinced that, properly framed on the page, using geirdals pictures
could make the sexiest feature tour, ever :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages

2016-07-28 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-07-27 21:39, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Hi Ralf (and other interested people),
> 
> On 07/25/2016 08:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:05:13 +0200, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
>>> Then, also create your PPA to which you will upload your own custom
>>> meta.
>>
>> That's what I once wanted to do, but for me it's rocket science and I
>> never found a simple explanation for all steps, IOW there's no demo
>> with a real package, a beginner simply could copy, step by step.
>>
> 
> It is not rocket science. Even I can manage it :-)
> 
> You will never find a simple explanation for how to package, because
> there is more than one way to do it, and the steps to do it vary
> depending on what you are working on, and the tools and processes also
> change/improve over time.
> 
> If you know your way around the shell, how to compile software from
> source, how to apply a patch, how to install packages, how to use a bug
> tracker, and what version control means, you can package software for
> Ubuntu. You just need to learn some of the Debian/Ubuntu specific tools
> and processes. If you miss some of this knowledge, you just need time,
> patience and the ability to read and use a search engine!
> 
> My starting points/references:
> https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers (for packaging in Debian)
> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/index.html (for packaging in Ubuntu)
> The Debian Mentors mailing list and IRC channel are excellent for
> getting help, and the Ubuntu MOTU team can help with Ubuntu specific
> queries.
> 
> The best thing is to find a task that needs doing, and get stuck in. If
> you get stuck, someone out there will know what to do, and either help
> you, or just do it for you (then you can inspect what they did afterwards).
> 
> You can also ask here at any step of the way. Especially if it is one of
> our packages, or our seeds.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ross
> 

Thank you guys! I learned a lot from all you guy's input and like Ross
suggests; by getting started things get more tangible. (Also, with the
good help of krytarik, it gets fun :) ) And i have to say it would be
awesome to see you get your hands dirty with us, Ralf. Knowing your
console-fu and you rocketmouse science skills ;)

I saw Ross added the 2 audio packages to the seeds \o/
And i took care of 2 first entries for graphics. The seed part is
actually very easy, once you get a grip on the terminology that is.
(seeds? meta? :D) I will try my best to document my progress and compile
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Shimmer and numix (was: unmet dependencies)

2016-07-28 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi Ross! :)
Good to have you back, hope you had a nice holiday!

On 2016-07-27 20:07, Ross Gammon wrote:
> This has been resolved.
> 
\o/

> For future reference, you can see the germination output of the seeds
> for Yakkety here:
> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntustudio.yakkety/all
> It helps to work out what is going on.

Thank you, i had no idea of that page!
> 
> The latest murrine-themes has been synced from Debian now (which was
> actually on my todo list before I went on holiday - yey, one crossed off
> - I love it when someone does the work when you are on holiday).
> For your information, some packages, and mainly ones that had Ubuntu
> specific modifications (giving the e.g. ubuntu1 extension to the version
> number), do not get automatically synced from Debian. They need to be
> merged manually. In this particular case, the Ubuntu specific
> modifications were dropped with a manual sync. From now on, the latest
> murrine-themes should sync across from Debian automatically.
> 

That explains a lot, thank you! :)

I've been looking into the theme thing with krytarik. As is now, we ship
ubuntu studio with greybird as default theme. Last time we discussed the
theme/look of the desktop, i want to remember many of us agreed on
finding a darker theme.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/murrine-themes
http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/shimmer-themes

Both Murrine and Shimmer have greybird (our default theme atm). But
shimmer is shipped with Numix. And Numix is a pretty excellent theme.

The cons as i see them for Numix are these:

- The way focused windows differentiate themselves from other (same as
greybird)
- The very thin window border makes it hard to catch the corners to
resize (same as gryebird)

The pros:

- It hear it is well maintained, like gerybird.
- While it is dark, unlike most dark-themes you never get problems with
webpage searchboxes displaying white text on white background.

The default highlight color of numix is red, but krytarik found a fix
from xubuntu unicorn to address this and let us have ubuntustudio blue
instead.

So, if i sound like i am pushing for a shift from murrine to shimmer and
for shipping 16.10 with numix as default theme and window header, you
got me alright. :D But of course, we need to agree on it first.

What are your thoughts, team?

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] unmet dependencies

2016-07-26 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi all,

We seem to have a problem with murrine-themes:

> The following packages have unmet dependencies: greybird-gtk-theme :
> Breaks: murrine-themes (< 0.98.11~) but 0.98.6ubuntu1 is to be
> installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken
> packages. [1]

I was informed that xubuntu are seeding shimmer-themes directly, rather
than murrine-themes. Shouldn't we do the same?

Any pros and cons we should be aware of?

As with many of the technical things, i'm very much a noob in the
whatnots of theming and its dependencies. That is, if you guys can break
it down for me in the easiest possible way, i'd be super grateful.

Yours,
*Set

[1]
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2016-July/007952.html



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages

2016-07-25 Thread Set Hallstrom
måndagen den 25:e juli 2016 kl. 13:03:00 CEST, Ralf Mardorf 
<ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> skrev:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:00:50 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote:

Could we get started on this list of work items sometime soon perhaps?
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development

I'd love to help, but i have no proper experience with that kind of
packaging. But i'd love to learn...


Why doesn't somebody provide step by step examples too the mailing list,
when making the next packages. IOW really everything, how to package,
how and what to upload. What to care about regarding Ubuntu policy.
Since everything like this is kept as a secret, resp. is only provided
by crappy English documentations, nobody is able to help you.



that would be very nice, yes! :) zequence made quite a lot of documentation 
about it, 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackageMaintenance but
there is only that much docs one person can write while having a hole bunch 
of other responsabilities in check, and i can't find docs on how to remove 
or add apps to a package, for example add drumgizmo to 
ubuntustudio-audio...


what i can offer in exchange of someone guiding me step by step, is to 
document the process as i exectute it... :)



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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Add and remove packages

2016-07-25 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi all,

Could we get started on this list of work items sometime soon perhaps?
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development

I'd love to help, but i have no proper experience with that kind of
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)

2016-07-25 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-07-24 23:17, Len Ovens wrote:

> Ya, I haven't seen anything about packages actually being added
> removed... maybe it has been done and I missed it. I just meant that if
> the actual changes to our packages have not been made there is nothing
> to test.

Ok, thanks for clarifying, Len. No i haven't seen anything either. In
fact no one has assigned themselves to a work item.
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio-y-development
I guess i should have been more alert and pushy...

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)

2016-07-24 Thread Set Hallstrom
söndagen den 24:e juli 2016 kl. 16:20:46 CEST, Len Ovens 
<l...@ovenwerks.net> skrev:


Unless we have at least made the application changes there is no point. 
But we should do that. I haven't seen any more "we should add" we should 
remove" for a bit.




Thanks Len,

i must have misunderstood something, i thought that the discussion part 
ended at feature definition freeze on may 26th and that from there on we 
would work on implementing (adding, removing) what was discussed and 
entered in the blueprints, before we got to the featurefreeze on august 
18th... ?


https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-y-ubuntustudio

If you think there is still time to select packages, and discuss what to 
remove or add, i'm up for it. Although i admit i thought we were far beyond 
that point by now...


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelection/yakkety

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Yakkety Alpha 2 (for opt-in flavors)

2016-07-24 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi all,

As you can see here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
Next week is the opt-in alpha 2 release.

Do we want/are we able to participate?

It will be very difficult for me to find the time next week and without
getting in details, i'd therefor rather not participate. However, if you
guys feel it is important, i'll do my best to join the party.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.04.1 RC Testing

2016-07-24 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi,
Today I updated the download page of the website, created a post to
announce to dot release here:
http://ubuntustudio.org/2016/07/ubuntu-studio-16-04-1-released/
and added a link to the 16.04.1 change summary on our Release notes wiki
page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio

Please have a look and let me know if something is wrong or needs
complementary information.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] i386 EOL plans for Ubuntu Studio?

2016-07-19 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi,

Thanks for reaching out!

On 2016-07-11 20:50, Bryan Quigley wrote:

>
> *Wait until after 18.04 and then reconsider dropping i386*
>

This is what i am in favor of.

That is: I am also in favor of keeping 32bit version. I also value the
ecological aspect of reusing old machines, and motivating friends and
acquaintances to reuse their old machine as an excuse to introduce them
to FLOSS, as Len and Yoshi express. Given the small size of the team,
i'm sure we would save a lot of sweat by dropping 32-bit. But i think
that argument says more about the work we need to do to repopulate the
team, than what system we should support or not.

On that note, i'd like to say: Welcome to the list, Yoshi. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.04.1 RC Testing

2016-07-19 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-07-19 12:03, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> There are no previous dot release notes AFAIK. IMO, we can add to the
> same release notes. Just add a new header at the bottom for the dot
> release for any important changes

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.04.1 RC Testing

2016-07-19 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-07-19 07:25, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> Let me just remind everyone that 16.04.1 is to be tested before release
> on thrusday. If I remember correctly, Ross would is not able to
> participate for this one.
> 
> ISOs and test cases can be found here
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/363/builds.
> 
> If you want to help out, make sure to get yourself a launchpad account,
> login, and then follow instructions on the link above for testing and
> reporting results. Also, please report any bugs you find.
> 
> There may be rebuilds, so we may need to redo tests a few times until
> Thursday, but consider each ISO a release candidate from now on.
> 

Thank you Kaj! Sorry, i got confused with the alpha2 date next week. But
i've found the schedule for dot releases now [1]
Although it doesn't announce for when .2 is planned. Is there another
wiki page for these schedules?

Indeed, Ross will be away. I can write the release notes.. Although i
don't find any previous dot release notes for ubuntustudio to base on.
Is it better to edit the Xenial release note page [2], or should it be a
separate one? I did find a "change summary" for the 14.04.x releases
[3], maybe a link to the upcoming 16.04.1 change summary and an
announcement on the website is enough?

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.4

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Apologies

2016-07-15 Thread Set Hallstrom
Thanks for getting back to us and for offering your time and ressources to 
help us! I'm currently in a family reunion and can only surface 
sporadically. I will be back 100% next Wednesday.


torsdagen den 14:e juli 2016 kl. 22:52:36 CEST, C de-Avillez 
<hgg...@ubuntu.com> skrev:



It would be nice for someone to contact the other party, as well.

Cheers,

..C..



Prior to adressing the list, i reached out privately to Jimmy and Kaj. In 
all honesty, they were both very short mails. I didn't see any reason to 
develop any argumentation or justifications as to why i adressed them like 
i did, and opted for simply stateing the facts: that i am sorry and what i 
am sorry for. I regret making Jimmy feel rejected and for using provocative 
phrasing and added that i in fact do value his feedback when he finds the 
time for it. With Kaj i regret my wording onlist and in private and added 
that i do not see him like the bad person i painted him as, in the midst of 
my anger.


Kaj responded quickly and humbly, Jimmy is taking his time but i think it 
is fair enough.


Set


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