[Ugnet] Why do good leaders overstay their welcome?
The New Vision <http://www.newvision.co.ug/IM/logo_white_big.gif> Why do good leaders overstay their welcome? Publication date: Thursday, 18th December, 2008 By Jerry Okungu IN less than a week, the presidents of Kenya and the United States have gone through experiences of their lifetimes. These incidents will form an integral part of their legacies, unfortunate as they might have been. By coincidence, both presidents are serving their last terms in office with Bush remaining with just 35 days in office. Mwai Kibaki has however, more than 1,000 days in office before he retires. Both presidents are suffering acute loss of executive power making them incapable of effecting meaningful executive decisions. As Bush watches in bewilderment the Senate's scuttling of his bailout plan for the American auto industry, Kibaki is equally stressed out with our local MPs that are bent on chipping away his powers to appoint new Electoral Commission of Kenya (ECK) commissioners let alone voting for his bills despite personal pleas to them. While George Bush is content with the blame that his eight years of poor performance at the White cost his party the presidency, Kibaki's other ministers are defying his orders to stop campaigning for his succession. Surely, for Bush and Kibaki, the presidency has become a nightmare of sorts during their last terms in office. But the most telling similarity must be credited to the incidents that happened in Nairobi on Jamhuri Day last week and in Baghdad this week just three days apart. For Kibaki, this was the first time a heckler cut short a President's speech on the most important national day in Kenya's annual calendar. No sitting President in Kenya's history has ever left a National Day celebration in a huff because of some heckler. Kibaki did just that. Kibaki's case was even more intriguing because the heckler was sitting right behind him as a dignitary; something the President's security detail should have detected much earlier. They didn't! George's Bush's sudden trip to Baghdad to bid farewell to his troops and the government of Iraq ended on a sour note when an irate Iraqi journalist threw his shoes at the American president which Bush ducked twice. On both occasions there were no marines to shield their president. This incident, like that of Kibaki 4000 miles away, took place in full view of the international press. Again, like Kibaki, Bush will go in history as the first American President to have been embarrassed by a shoe-throwing journalist who also called him a dog! As Kenyan security men bundled one Peter Odhiambo, the heckler, out of Nyayo Stadium with his mouth closed, probably to stop him from pouring out more profanity against the state; their Baghdad counterparts did not seem to have descended on the Iraqi journalist with equal force. Maybe the cameras did not provide us with more footage on the attacker's exit. However, what I shuddered to think was that if what happened to Bush in Baghdad had happened to him in Kampala, Dar-es-Salaam or Nigeria; would the culprit and others standing by have survived? I remember when Bill Clinton visited Abuja and Arusha before he left office. I also remember when Bush visited Tanzania, Rwanda and Uganda a few years ago. The advance American military and state security agents were overwhelming. It is rumoured that even some heads of state were not allowed to move from their seats during such ceremonies! I can bet that the Baghdad incident would have resulted in the deaths of so many journalists at the hands of the local government with others going to jail or losing their jobs. The embarrassment to the regime in power would have awoken the demon in all of us! As we replay the footages of these incidents day after day, I keep thinking why good leaders like Mugabe can rule for so long and invoke our hatred for them so much. If Bush had lost his bid for a second term; he would not have come across such lowly attack from a mere journalist. If Mugabe had called it quits when he was still popular, he would today not be regarded as an old fool who doesn't know when it is time to quit. If Mwai Kibaki had honoured the 2002 memorandum of understanding with his ex-colleagues in Narc and gone home after five years like Nelson Mandela, he would today be a respected African statesman basking in the glory of Mandela's company. He would also have saved Kenya from the 2007 Election fiasco because there would have been a more sensible Electoral Commission in the first place. This article can be found on-line at: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/20/665361 C Copyright 2000-2008 The New Vision. All rights reserved. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower C <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> 'mon into my
[Ugnet] Fw: did you watch this program before?
Folks, this aired on a tv program in Canada last evening. Take a peak: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/disappearingact/video.html ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Forwarded Message ---- From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:21:07 PM Subject: Re: did you watch this program before? Brada, I watched the whole one-hr run with madam. The story was already in the news some months ago when he flew in. I told madam there is this ka-thing about African women when they see a white man, any white man and they think he is manna from heaven. David Reiner was well cared for by the Muganda lady (of course for obvious motives) until the wealth he promised from SLF didn't come then she threw him out. He married a beautiful 24 yr old Kenyan girl who was still dying to love this 61-yr old crook even after he revealed her he was a wanted criminal in Canada. We still have a long way to educate our folks that not all white people are a goldmine - in fact the majority aren't. ___________ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:30:14 AM Subject: did you watch this program before? It was the headline that grabbed national attention. A fugitive returning to face justice. No one would mistake the image of the grey-haired, haggard figure that stepped off the plane at Toronto airport and into the waiting handcuffs of the police, as a hardened criminal. David Reiner, after all, was a sixty-one-year-old bookkeeper and by all the accounts of those who knew him, he was a compassionate professional who had never broken a law; a trusted friend to the many people who had hired him to balance their books. But, David Reiner had gone missing two years before that scene at the airport. One day, he had simply vanished after stealing almost a million dollars from twenty-one non-profit daycare centers. Why Reiner had turned into a thief and then done aDisappearing Actwas a mystery. Family and friends were baffled. Maureen Myers, of McMurrich Sprouts daycare center had known Reiner for almost twenty years. "I spend a lot of time thinking about it. Why would somebody do this? Why would somebody rip off children?" For two years, Reiner was sought by family, by police, and by the media.The fifth estatefinally tracked him to Africa where, we discovered, whatever money Reiner had absconded with was long gone. He was destitute, living off whatever his aged mother, friends or relatives could send him from Toronto and what he could scrounge or con from new acquaintances in Kenya and Uganda. He presented himself to aid workers in Uganda, like Liz Humphreys, as someone who had the contacts to tap for aid money. "He said he'd been working for the Stephen Lewis Foundation…He suggested putting in a proposal to the Stephen Lewis Foundation, he said I'll help you with that, so I said wonderful." But, Humphreys, as almost everyone does who comes into contact with David Reiner, realized too late that Reiner had stolen from her, too. Stephen Lewis did know David Reiner. Reiner had worked briefly for his Foundation before being fired. No money from the Lewis Foundation was ever taken by Reiner. In Africa, Reiner continued to abuse the notion of his connection to the Foundation by promising to get money for African charities and that outrages Lewis: "Do you know how cruel that is? I sometimes wonder if there isn't a touch of the sociopath here." The longer he stayed in Africa, the more cons he perpetrated, Reiner increasingly feared that the net of Ugandan justice was about to snare him. WhenThe fifth estatemet him, he was desperate to escape Africa and return to Canada.The fifth estatebrought Reiner home to face the police and justice, but not before he sat down with Hana Gartner for a candid, at times bewildering, but always fascinating, interview into his motives, his character, and the real story behind hisDisappearing Act. · Synopsis · Timeline · Watch Video___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Re: Strange
Jamisi, Excellent observation. However, should Uganda (most certainly under a different president) charge those known Rwandese like Kagame, late Rwegema, etc who participated, actually commanded, the massacre of Ugandans in Luwero and elsewhere after they took over government? I believe their roles whave been well documented as well has their student days and military ranks attained in UPDF. Kagame and all those Rwandese who entered Kampala as heroes need to be charged as foreign terrorists. They murdered our folks mercilesslessy because Kaguta informed them that 'look here folks, you are Rwandese and non of these Luwero Gandas and most especially Northerners are related to you so don't feel guilty killing them ruthlessly because you will not be killing any of your own'. The deal Museveni made with the Rwandese was that 'you help me get out Obote's government, I will help you get out Habyalimana'. Museveni had to fullfil this agreement for a second reason: He had to reduce/eliminate potential rivals who didn't know he was going to cling to power. Had Kagame, Rwigema, etc stopped with the change in Kampala, Museveni would have not lasted to this day because his initial fighteres were mainly Rwandese. His own Bahima, Banyankole and the rest of Westerners never joined him because they didn't obviously like him or trusted him let alone accept to be ruled by a Muhima. Folks, we must understand than the spillover to overthrowing Habyalimana was Museveni's plan to reduce potential rivals and he did succede at this. Imagine the current Rwandese Tutsi force who fought in the NRA still in the UPDF? They would have lynched Museveni already and they could have by now teamed up with another ethnic group to wipe out the Bahima - who themselves are not of Rwandese ancestry. As soon as he tookover government, indeed Museveni's priority was to send out the closest fighters to him - the Rwandese - by giving them their own country. It is the reason Museveni has also eliminated the ranks of true Ugandans (Muwhezi, Besigye, etc.) who joined him and replaced them with ignorant, bootlicking junior officers who will never know this was is initial plan and it is working very well for him. My only recommendation is that we should prevent the documents on Rwandese fighters who murdered our kinsfolks from having their records destroyed because we will one day charge them for fuelling genocide in Luwero and Northern Ugandan. Most Baganda from Luwero don't actually know that they and the Northerners suffered the same fate at the hands of the same murderes. They rejoice in the suffering of Northerners not knowing it is the same North-Easterlies from Luwero which carried and spread the destruction in the North. One day - if they haven't known yet - they will slap themselves for not recognizing and acknowledging this fact sooner. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: str8talk-ug2...@googlegroups.com [mailto:str8talk-ug2...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jamisi kwonene Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:39 AM To: str8talk-ug2...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] [Str8talk-2011] Re: Strange Of course there is no Ugandan of Rwandese origin.The history of how Rwandese came to Uganda and how they initially came to Uganda is well Known to some of us. These people initially came to Uganda for Kyeyo.Where they would look for odd jobs like clearing chambers,whasing clothes and later they would go back to Rwanda with things they bought with the money from their wages.There are even stories that some policemen on the Ugandan side would rob these people of their property like shoes so they improvised ways to keep their property safe.This they achieved by giving one of the pair of shoes to their colleagues so that they would be seen as confused because they bought shoes of the same side.Hence the security peronnel gave up robbing them. The next group came to Uganda as a result of political turmoil In Rwanda.These chosed to settle in uganda as some of them acquiered some land.When their other groups sneaked away with our guns to go back to fight these other people with land in Uganda decided to remain in Uganda.It is these who are now being called Ugandans of Rwandese origin. Much as they think they are Ugandans and they are being favoured by the NRM government,they must be careful.their identity is known,and they can lose citizenship of Uganda any time. On 12/17/08, Peter-Rhaina Gwokto wrote: > I believe they are attacking the indiscriminate attack where there are > children, women and many innocent abductees. If your Kaguta pieces can > distinguish or sort them out, well and good. Just spare the above. > > > I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. > &
[Ugnet] International Ugandan Bank Denies Account to Trans Activist
g blindness by paying for cataract surgeries at $277 a pop; drilling boreholes for rural communities at a cost of $80,000 -- some people have to walk 10-15 kilometers to get water and it may still be contaminated; and large-scale refurbishments of high school facilities in the capital city. The company is even leading an effort to end stigma among those affected by HIV or AIDS by offering complimentary voluntary testing and providing a supportive environment to HIV positive employees. But when asked about why a company that was such an outstanding corporate citizen in many ways for Ugandans and Africans at large, was denying an account to a lesbian, Zake appeared stunned by the question for a moment. And then says, "She indicated that the money was coming from a gay and lesbian human rights organization ... it [homosexuality] is illegal here." When pressed on whether national statute against gay actions affected whether gays could have bank accounts, Zake's response was that the matter "is open to interpretation." The executive then insisted that he would get clarity on the matter and forward a response to this reporter. In May, when The Advocate contacted SCB's parent company, officials in the United Kingdom declined to speak publicly about that one case, but insiders pointed out that the bank has a history of opening in culturally challenging locations. While the mammoth $50 billion bank has branches in 13 African countries, it also operates in the Middle East, including Iraq, and in Afghanistan. In Middle Eastern locations where it might be difficult for both sexes to mingle openly, it has had to open banks primarily for women. "We have a very strong ethos of diversity and inclusion in the bank and do not discriminate against customers on the grounds of sexual orientation, or gender or race, for that matter," insists Tim Baxter, Standard Chartered's London-based head of external communications. The problem wasn't SCB's, but local law that officials feel they must comply with. Since IGLHRC promotes equality for sexual minorities, and activities of such minorities are illegal in Uganda, that puts SCB in an untenable position, insiders say. "We operate in more than 70 countries with many different cultures and fully comply with all local laws and regulations," Baxter says. SCB officials say they have many senior gay and lesbian employees and try to work within the restrictions of local governments to provide retail financial services for all. In the meantime, Mukasa has to make do with having friends who can lend a hand -- or a bank account. "IGLHRC wires my salary to a friend's account. This is not comfortable for me. This makes me feel horrible . I am very frustrated. This place is becoming a stranger land for me every day." I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] "Good witchcraft" learnt in Uganda
<http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/cesarean/images/uganda.jpg> Successful Cesarean section performed by indigenous healers in Kahura, Uganda. As observed by R. W. Felkin in 1879 Successful Cesarean section performed by indigenous healers in Kahura, Uganda. As observed by R. W. Felkin in 1879. While Barry applied Western surgical techniques, nineteenth-century travelers in Africa reported instances of indigenous people successfully carrying out the procedure with their own medical practices. In 1879, for example, one British traveller, R.W. Felkin, witnessed cesarean section performed by Ugandans. The healer used banana wine to semi-intoxicate the woman and to cleanse his hands and her abdomen prior to surgery. He used a midline incision and applied cautery to minimize hemorrhaging. He massaged the uterus to make it contract but did not suture it; the abdominal wound was pinned with iron needles and dressed with a paste prepared from roots. The patient recovered well, and Felkin concluded that this technique was well-developed and had clearly been employed for a long time. Similar reports come from Rwanda, where botanical preparations were also used to anesthetize the patient and promote wound healing. Read more of this quote from "Cesarean Section - <http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/cesarean/part2.html> A Brief History", US National Library of Medicine I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Streamline your finances in 8 steps
such as Discover, will send you an e-mail reminding you to pay. Online bill payment systems usually have a bill reminder feature, as well. Take advantage of these so you don't have to rely on your memory to make sure bills get paid. Consolidate your credit cards The more cards you have, the more due dates, interest rates, fees and terms you have to keep track of -- and the more likely you are to make a mistake, pay a bill late and get hit with a fee. Most people only need one or two cards. If you carry a balance from month to month, consider consolidating all your debt onto one card if you can do so without using more than about 50% of your credit limit. Using more could hurt your credit score. Use a separate card for any new purchases, and don't charge more than you can pay off each month. That way, you can minimize your interest rate charges while still having the convenience of being able to use a card. Consolidate your accounts The more scattered your money is, the harder it can be to track. Having a number of IRAs, mutual funds and brokerage accounts at several different financial institutions, for example, just creates more paperwork and headaches. Instead, move them all to one location and combine any accounts that you can. Some people are even closing down their bank accounts and keeping all their money at brokerage firms. Brokerages offer checking and savings account services that mimic those at banks, and you may find it's easier to move your money around when you don't have to deal with transfers between institutions. Set up a filing system that works You should have one place to put your bills as soon as they come into the house. (If you get your bills electronically, they should be saved immediately to a specified e-mail folder -- or better still, paid. If you still get paper statements, the holding pen might be a basket on your desk.) Paid bills and other financial documents should be filed away in logical order. Generally, each bank, credit card and brokerage account should have its own file, as should your workplace retirement accounts and your insurance policies. Office supply firms have ready-made filing systems that might help you, such as <http://www.homefile.net/> HomeFile, a system created by two financial planners that tells you what documents to keep and for how long. Once a year, after you've filed your tax return, go through your filing system. Pack away the old documents you need to keep and toss the receipts and statements you no longer need. Implement all eight of these steps, and your days of late fees, bounced checks and confusion will be history. Instead, you'll feel more in control of your money -- and your life. Liz Pulliam Weston's column appears every Monday and Thursday, exclusively on MSN Money. She also answers reader questions in the <http://moneycentral.msn.com/community/message/board.asp?board=YourMoney> Your Money message board. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Court won't review Obama's eligibility to serve
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/images/MSNBC/msnbc_ban.gif> MSNBC.com Court won't review Obama's eligibility to serve Suit claimed Obama was British-born and not a 'natural born' U.S. citizen The Associated Press updated 10:12 a.m. ET, Mon., Dec. 8, 2008 WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth. The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election. Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth - his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject - he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president. Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president. At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and the Hawaii secretary of state has confirmed. Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit. Federal courts in Ohio and Washington state have rejected similar lawsuits. Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake. But state officials in Hawaii say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii. The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document. In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama's birth, including his parents' address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961. Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28111773/ MSN Privacy <http://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/privacy.aspx> . Legal <http://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/terms.aspx> C 2008 MSNBC.com I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Who wants to be a multi-bilionaire?
Folks, my tegars fall for Zimbabwe. This is very sad. I sopke to an old school flame who holds a high office in Zimbabwe and she thinks the country has ceased to be, She smirked that there is no difference beween governments in Zimbabwe and Somalia except Somalia's millionaires are true millionaires in the real sense of the word with US $ --- the pirates. Hyperinflation forces Zimbabwe to print $200 million notes * Story Highlights * Price of a loaf of bread jumps to 35 million Zimbabwean dollars * Government accuses bank executives of illegal currency trading * Zimbabwe also faces widespread cholera outbreak; food, power shortages * President Robert Mugabe's policies blamed for economic collapse <http://lakitgum.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/1574r-018078a.jpg> Zimbabwe central bank governor Gideon Gono shows a new $50 million note at a news conference Thursday. Zimbabwe central bank governor Gideon Gono shows a new $50 million note at a news conference Thursday HARARE, Zimbabwe (CNN) -- Cash-strapped Zimbabwe revealed plans Saturday to circulate $200 million notes, just days after introducing a $100 million bill, Finance Minister Samuel Mumbengegwi said. After the $100 million note began circulating on Thursday, the price of a loaf of bread soared from 2 million to 35 million Zimbabwean dollars. Amid allegations of illegal foreign currency trading, the government also fired top executives at four major banks Thursday, according to The Herald, a state-owned newspaper. Many anxious residents of the nation's capital, Harare, have been sleeping outside banks, waiting for them to open so they can make withdrawals before the institutions run out of cash. Video <http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/2.0/mosaic/tabs/video.gif> <http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=Hyperinf lation+forces+Zimbabwe+to+print+%24200+million+notes+-+CNN.com&expire=-1&url ID=32908977&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2008%2FWORLD%2Fafrica%2F12%2 F06%2Fzimbabwe.cur#cnnSTCVideo> Watch how Zimbabwe's children are suffering > The Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe had capped maximum daily withdrawals at 500,000 Zimbabwean dollars -- about 25 U.S. cents, or about a quarter of Thursday's price of a loaf of bread. Last week, restrictions on cash withdrawals -- due to severe money shortages -- triggered riots. Sixteen soldiers now face possible court-martial due to alleged looting and assaults on civilians and police during the unrest, police spokesman Wayne Bvudzijena told The Herald on Saturday. "We are still investigating the case," he said. "But we expect the soldiers to appear before a court-martial once investigations are completed." After spending several days waiting in bank lines, soldiers rampaged through downtown Harare, destroying shops and attacking riot police sent to disperse the protesters. Cash shortages are not the only crisis plaguing <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Zimbabwe> Zimbabwe. The United Nations has said more than half of Zimbabwe's population is in dire need of food and clean water. Acute shortages of essentials such as fuel, electricity, medicines and food are key indicators of a failed <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Economic_Issues> economy, according to economic observers. "The (Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe) is failing to deliver the demands of market, prices are doubling daily, and that demands more cash," Zimbabwean economist John Robertson said. "The huge price increases are resulting from severe shortages of most goods." The once-prosperous African nation is facing its worst economic and humanitarian crisis since attaining independence from Great Britain in 1980. Zimbabwe's official rate of inflation is 231 million percent, the world's highest. Critics of Zimbabwean President <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Robert_Mugabe> Robert Mugabe link hyperinflation to his policies on land distribution and unbudgeted payments to war veterans. Zimbabwe has had no Cabinet since the March presidential election. Its political troubles have aggravated its humanitarian and economic crisis, including a cholera outbreak that has killed close to 600 people since August. A CNN journalist in Harare contributed to this report. All About <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Zimbabwe> Zimbabwe . <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Economic_Issues> Economic Issues . <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Robert_Mugabe> Robert Mugabe I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandan
[Ugnet] Even Clinton is not immune to Nigerian 419s
<http://www.clintonfoundation.org/news/> News & Media Press Release: Alert About a Fraudulent Conference Advertisement August 08, 2008 | New York | Clinton Foundation | Press Releases The William J. Clinton Foundation has recently discovered that individuals (likely from a French-speaking African country) are misrepresenting themselves as the Clinton Foundation and advertising a conference called "International Forum Workshop of NGO/CBOs" which they say is scheduled to take place November 1-5 in Washington DC and is being jointly conducted by the Foundation and the US Government. They seek registration fees of $250 from interested participants and request that bank transfers for this amount be sent to an address given in the invitation. They also attempt to lure "participants" by suggesting that the Clinton Foundation will cover the costs of some of the attendees. The invitation includes Clinton Foundation logos, addresses, etc. Please be advised, THIS SOLICITATION IS FRAUDULENT AND IN NO WAY CONNECTED OR AFFILIATED WITH THE WORK OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION. We are taking steps to address this matter. The titles and locations of some of the past fraudulent conference invitations have included: * "SYMPOSIUM of NGO/CBO" which they say is scheduled to take place January 2009 in Chicago. * "NGO/CBO International Forum Workshop" which they say is scheduled to take place from November 1-5 in Washington D.C. * "10th Symposium of NGO/CBO" which they say is scheduled to take place from October 24-29 in Boston * "10th Roundtable of NGO/CBOs on African Development" which they say is scheduled to take place September 8-13 in Texas. * "10th Roundtable of NGO/CBO" which they say is scheduled to take place from August 24-29 in South Carolina. * "15th Symposium of NGO/CBO" which they say is scheduled to take place from August 18-23 in Boston. * "9th Roundtable of NGO/CBO" which they say is scheduled to take place July 14-19 in Boston. * "3rd International NGO/CBO Workshop - Transforming Civil Society" which they say is scheduled to take place July 7-9 in New York. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] RE: [Str8talk-2011] Re: Obote was tough, but with me, he was shy-Miria Kalule Obote
Sentongo/Wanzama, Brothers, History & Civics was one of favourite subjects in primary. However, it was also the most traumatic in that it was my aunt who taught the subject in my school and for me it was a nightmare because this woman almost deformed my hands and fingers with the back-hand ruler punishment for failing a question. I even went to the extent of asking my mother why the hell this woman hated me so much that she directed every question at me that always ended up with a weew...! if I got it right or a sob if I failed. Anyway, back to the discussion: the issue for me is not whether Kiwanuka or Mutesa were the first PM and Prez, respectively. The issue for me is who did what and when for the good of the country. For me the sequence of events does not matter at all because I was born in the middle 60s and was able to know all about the country's political skirmishes during the early days. Does it really matter that George Washington was the first Pres of the US and how many people/Americans even know which political party he belonged or, at the minimum, how many Americans believe that his State of origin matters more than his contributions to the USA - a country that has had less than 6 amendments to its constitution compared to Uganda's amendments numbering in the 20s - abrogated, amended, nullified, revived, etc. I do believe that Obote did more for Uganda than any other President irrespective of our tribal feelings. He did more during his troubled 10 or so years than Museveni did in 23 years and not even close. I don't only have no clue what Mutesa or Kiwanuka did but there is absolutely nothing to show that Kiwanuka was responsible for any infrastructure development at all for Uganda, let alone Buganda in particular. By the way, if I may ask: If Mutesa was the first President and Kiwanuka was the first Prime Minister, how the hell did Obote outsmart 2 prominent Baganda to the extent he eliminated their powers without any material or tangible challenges on their part and with the capital and seat of government in their ethic territory? Can't that tell you more about Obote the man and Obote the politician that he was no tribal chief or leader, neither a bootlicker, nor a stooge? Obote was too smart a politician that he outsmarted both Kiwanuka and Mutesa by dividing their own people's allegiance to his favour. That is what you should be asking yourselves. To date, all politicians or military leaders who have led Uganda know that to succeed, one must just divide the Baganda. And they are very easy to divide because of greed. But the same did not happen in Kenya. The Kikuyu have given the rest of Kenya perpetual heartburn by not giving too much access to power anyone ruling from their own land (Nairobi). The same goes as recently for Zimbabwe's Shona and Ndebele where the struggle is more of an Intra-Shona matter than the spectating Ndebele. If I were a Muganda (and I am not asserting out of tribalism), I would be slapping my own cheeks every morning querying what went wrong with us. It is very easy for any Uganda and a Muganda in particular, to list Uganda's past Presidents as barely Mutesa, then Obote, Amin, Obote, Tito and Museveni and in the process forget or ignore Lule and Binaisa. Two chances were blown away because of division within Buganda for failing to consolidate on the opportunity. None from Teso, Karamoja, Busoga, Toro, Bunyoro, etc have appeared to lead the country yet the Ganda are quick to blame "the rest of the country" for their internal divisions and GREED. Personally, I am not a lover of History because I believe it is all about opening old wounds and revisiting past hatred. I love biographies and my bookshelf even has a copy of Hitler's Mein Kampf. I like to learn about people individually thereby get to know what made them who they were - heroes, statesmen, villains, godfathers, holy men, great singers, etc - I have them all. My wife has noticed some new trend in me that I have been collecting any movie with a black man or woman starring and I even have them in black'n'white. I have plenty of authorized and unauthorized biographies on many black statesmen from Kenyatta to Mandela, Harvey, Obama, Oprah, Kaguta, etc. The interest is in knowing how far blacks and Africans in particular, have come positively or negatively in their own successes and failures, and who have been divisive detractors (Museveni) or icons of progress (Mandela). You will be surprised. History is Uganda's greatest problem. There is nothing good to revisit. I wish we could all look forward instead of calling up on the past to change the current and future. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum
[Ugnet] The World's Worst Banker?
d, "There are no plans for any inorganic capital raisings or anything of the sort." But in June, RBS sold <http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=apPiltVmVsGM&refer=home > 12.3 billion pounds (about $20 billion) in shares at 200 pence per share, which was a significant discount to the then-market price. By October, as this chart shows <http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=RBS.L&t=6m> , the stock was slumping. And finally: Dump problems on fellow citizens by messing things up so badly the bank has to be nationalized? Bingo. With the stock continuing to slip, RBS staged another rights offering, giving brutalized shareholders an opportunity to add to their sharply discounted holdings at a sharp discount-in this case at 65.5 pence per share. But shareholders passed, and the government last Friday had to step in as buyer of last resort, ponying up 20 billion pounds and assuming an ownership stake of about 60 percent. (The Guardian tells <http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/28/royalbankofscotlandgroup-ban king> the grim tale.) The result? RBS's stock (here's a <http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=RBS.L&t=2y> two-year chart) has lost 91 percent of its value since March 2007 and retains value thanks only to massive government intervention. A job well-done, Sir Fred! URL: http://www.newsweek.com/id/171688 C 2008 I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] THE HUMBLING OF A PRIME MINISTER
EM, I have been reading this exciting events unfolding. It is the end for Harper. I don't think there is anymore turning back. Now, this is democracy in fair play. Very interesting indeed, but soon we will be having a new government. It caught Harper off-guard and instantlt humbled him like a bulldog squeezed by the b..ls. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: [Ugnet] THE HUMBLING OF A PRIME MINISTER The humbling of a Prime Minister LAWRENCE MARTIN >From Monday's Globe and Mail December 1, 2008 at 12:11 AM EST Elizabeth May tells a story from the televised election debates. The rules stipulated that leaders were allowed to bring in blank paper for note-taking. I'm seated next to Stephen Harper, the Green Party Leader recalls, swearing she isn't imagining things, and I look down on his little table. His paper isn't blank. He's got all these notes, already prepared. It was like to hell with the rules. I do what I want. That was then. This is now. Now, a domineering Prime Minister known for running a minority like he has won a landslide is on bended knee, petitioning for survival. In a matter of days Mr. Harper has recanted on his plan to withdraw public funding for political parties, has disavowed his intent to eliminate the right of public servants to strike, has moved up the timing of his budget and moved back the timing of a confidence vote. The sight of him semi-prostrate before the likes of Stéphane Dion and Jack Layton is not something many would have believed. He hasn't done the full revocation yet. He hasn't come forward with a plan for major stimulus in the budget, as opposition parties demand. That could come later this week. But whatever the outcome of the current crisis, one thing is clear: This is a Prime Minister who is getting his comeuppance. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. He isn't dead, but he is mightily humbled. History won't forget these days.Many of us thought he might be changing his ways. I'd written countless columns about his autocratic tactics, but thought that with his election win in October we were seeing a new Stephen Harper, that he was more relaxed and secure. He made some impressive personnel changes and seemed to be displaying a little more bipartisanship. But his opting to play power-monger politics in the midst of a global economic crisis last week showed there was little change. It confirmed the worst suspicions. Having dug himself into this chasm, the Prime Minister is now making the right moves especially if he signals more economic stimulus in trying to dig himself out. He had little choice, given the scathing media reaction, to eat crow on his economic update. With his pullback, he now leaves the opposition parties with less ammunition. He makes it look like they are the ones who, with their continued coalition-plotting, are engaged in a power grab. The opposition will argue that the PM's intent was clear, that he doesn't deserve a second chance, that he cannot be trusted and that, indeed, he did have a hidden agenda, it being total political control via his party non-funding plan. Mr. Harper did not reveal the funding reform plan or some of the other measures in his election campaign or in his Throne Speech. They were inserted at the last minute in the update. He once denounced Joe Clark for losing his 1979 minority on the basis of a gasoline tax that the Tory leader had not campaigned on. You can be principled without being stupid, Mr. Harper said of Mr. Clark. But last week Mr. Harper proceeded to do a similar thing. The PM also told everyone he was familiar with the mistakes leaders made in the Great Depression of the 1930s belt-tightening instead of stimulus. Mysteriously he didn't heed it, at least not in his economic statement. If defeated on a non-confidence motion, he will hope the Governor-General allows him to fight an election. He might wish before seeing her to retract his attempt to pressure her. He said Friday that Mr. Dion does not have the right to take power without an election. This is blatantly wrong. The Opposition leader does, in fact, have the constitutional right in a minority government and the Governor-General has the authority to confer it. Up until now, the Prime Minister has been able to get away with his strong-arm tactics, his disavowing of his own election law being another recent example. But the economic update did much to expose the essence of him. My suspicion is that we don't know the half of what went on in his first term and
RE: [Ugnet] Re: {UAH} Cry the Beloved Country
EM,
I think life and survival, for the average Muganda, have become more
difficult to adjust to than for the migrants from the rest of the country
and from as far away as Sudan, DRC, Rwanda/Burundi. It is sad that most of
these new atrocities - private and commercial slaughters and child
sacrifices - are committed by a people who claim to be the most educated,
civilized, informed and enlightened in Uganda. I do believe that it is now a
dog-eat-dog society in Buganda; it is not man against beast but beast
against beast or his own species. Certainly, the Baganda holders of this
ritual also know that they can't tamper with kidnapping a Kakwa or Muhima
because that will spell unwarranted deluge of the common-man's tribal
vengeance.
Has anyone asked why the sacrifices are being funded by the well-to-do and
executed by the needy poor who themselves end up in jail but the principal
gets away to UK? What is becoming of the Ganda enlightened intelligentsia
who have resorted to such lowly of primitive practices and don't they think
they have made the Baganda a laughing stock for the rest of the country and
visitors alike?
I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message.
_
Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower
http://lakitgum.wordpress.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mulindwa Edward
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net
Subject: [Ugnet] Re: {UAH} Cry the Beloved Country
Ugandans
Again I repeat that this nation is not reaching this low due to unitarism we
have a very serious problem that needs to be addressed, for can you imagine
leaving Baganda to self govern? These kids are not only Baganda but
Ugandans and the very future of Uganda, how can you leave them under Mengo
authority, you will end up with no Muganda come 50 years ahead.
Or show me where Mengo has taken a stand to defend these little ones.
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni,
l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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From: "Paul Ssemaluulu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:34 AM
Subject: {UAH} Cry the Beloved Country
> Kampala man butchers baby son
> Sunday, 30th November, 2008
> E-mail article E-mail article Print article Print article
>
> By Herbert Ssempogo
>
> A MAN butchered his six-month-old son in Kampala on Saturday. The
> incident heightened the alarm surrounding a string of ritual murders
> involving children in the city.
>
> The horrific killing occurred in Nakinyuguzi, Makindye. Henry
> Sserubiri, detained at Katwe Police Station, is said to have used a
> knife to cut up his son, Elijah Kyanakyayesu.
>
> Witnesses say Kyanakyayesu was brutally murdered at about 6:30pm in a
> bed-sitter home he shared with his mother Liz Nabaale, father
> Sserubiri and two-year-old brother, Wycliffe Buyongo.
>
> Police, quoting a neighbour, said Sserubiri chopped Kyanakyayesu up
> while Nabaale, a petty trader, had gone to buy goods from Kikuubo, a
> busy business hub. When Nabaale returned, she asked her husband where
> the child was but received no response.
>
> It is reported that Nabaale and her neighbour Charles Lwanga searched
> the house, driven by their suspicions. They discovered a blood-stained
> polyethylene bag. In it they found Kyanakyayesu's head, torso, chopped
> limbs and two knives, which Sserubiri reportedly used kill the child.
> The sight caused Nabaale to go into shock, witnesses said.
>
> As enraged crowds gathered, local council officials Betty Ssejje and
> Musa Kayemba locked Sserubiri in the house, away from enraged
> residents who wanted to lynch him.
>
> Police, among them Katwe CID chief Sisye Kiirya and his Kabalagala
> counterpart Dennis Anywar, arrived shortly and whisked Sserubiri off
> to Katwe.
>
> Kyanakyayesu's remains, which the detectives examined, were taken to
> the city mortuary in Mulago.
> By press time, Nabaale remained admitted to Hope Clinic in Lukuli
> receiving treatment for shock.
> Sserubiri's motive for the murder could not be established. Detectives
> are set to interrogate him this week.
>
> The murder of the infant came to light as the Police searched for the
> head of 12-year-old Joseph Kasirye, who was killed in October in
> Masaka in what they suspect is a ritual murder. City businessman
> Godfrey Kato Kajubi is detained at Central Police Station in
> connection with the child's death.
>
> Yesterday the Police arrested a witchdoctor in connection with
> Kasirye's murder.
>
&g
RE: [Ugnet] BRITAIN IS BRIBING AFGHANS TO FIGHT TALEBANS
EM, This is interesting and it is not being broadcast for the first time. Why is it Ok for developed countries to bribe developing countries yet unfortunately, an illegal act, when Third Wolders do the same? by doing this, isn't Britain facilitating bribery and corruption as an 'official'/legal means of stabilizing situations? ... and they have the audacity to say the Third World is full of corrupt imbeciles.?. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Oryema Johnson; Nyar Nyar'Onyango; Dr. Valentine Ojo Subject: [Ugnet] BRITAIN IS BRIBING AFGHANS TO FIGHT TALEBANS Britain 'bribes Afghans to fight Taleban' A British soldier meets a local man in Helmand province Picture: Getty Images <http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/Upload/NS//TH1_2511200818afghan.jpg> A British soldier meets a local man in Helmand province Picture: Getty Images Click on thumbnail to view image Click on thumbnail to view image Click on thumbnail to view image Click on thumbnail to view image Published Date: 26 November 2008 By Jerome Starkey in Kabul BRITAIN plans to pay cash "bribes" to tribal elders in Afghanistan's war-torn Helmand province, as part of a scheme to persuade them to take on the Taleban. UK officials in the capital, Kabul, are bankrolling an Afghan initiative to pay community leaders monthly wages to get them talking to the government. The Afghan Social Outreach Programme (ASOP) is seen as the first step towards finding influential tribal elders, on a district level, to command irregular forces against the Taleban insurgents. The elders will be handpicked by Helmand's governor, Gulab Mangal, and are expected to earn about £800 a year for attending up to two meetings, or shuras, a month. But critics fear the payments, which are some 30 per cent more than civil servants earn, are the president Hamid Karzai's way of bribing tribal elders to deliver votes ahead of elections next year. American officials are financing a similar scheme in the east of the country, where their troops are based. Meanwhile, US General David Petraeus is carrying out a strategy review that is expected to advocate closer engagement with Afghanistan's myriad tribal communities, after Barack Obama, the president-elect, takes office next year. News of Britain's involvement in ASOP came as David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, met Mr Karzai on a surprise visit to Kabul yesterday. Speaking to journalists after the meeting, Mr Miliband was asked about rumours that 2,000 more UK soldiers could be sent to Afghanistan at the request of the US. "It is certainly invented, as far as I'm concerned. I haven't seen any papers come to me saying we need 2,000 more troops," he said. Western backers say the cash payments are only a way of harnessing informal government structures, so people in remote and war-ravaged provinces can air their grievances to the governor. But Afghan officials insist it is the beginning of a much more ambitious plan to connect with men of fighting age who give their loyalty to village, family and tribal elders before any allegiance to Kabul. Mr Karzai's spokesman said: "We don't want to create militias, but we need to be empowering tribal arbakai (community forces] and citizen patrols; equip them, not just with weapons but with whatever it takes, so they can protect their territories. "We have lost a major part of Helmand to the Taleban because we failed to keep the population. We failed to keep the tribal elders on our side. When we lose them, we lose the territory. We should go back to the people." The cash programme will be piloted in two districts of Helmand in the coming weeks and is expected to be rolled out across the province next year. However, a western policy analyst in Kabul warned: "It's anti-democratic. If this is perceived as more political patronage, or bribery, it runs the risk of generating friction and resentment." Charities and non-governmental organisations fear it could legitimise militias and store up problems for the future, after years of international efforts to disarm irregular forces. Matt Waldman, Oxfam's head of policy in Afghanistan, said: "Given the fragile security situation, ASOP is a high-risk strategy which, if mishandled, has the potential to make matters worse." Divided tribes make it hard to find elders who will help THE tribes in Helmand province have been
RE: [Ugnet] NOW THIS IS A REAL CHANGE TO AFRICANS
EM, Unlike Obama, Kaguta's definition of "fundamental change" is no change. I reflected on this and gave the Ugandan voter quite a laugh. During campaigns for the Sad Term, the slogan was "No Change". Where in the world has anyone ever heard of a country's policy and future remaining stagnant? Isn't it strange that Kaguta stood on that premise and Ugandans actually voted for No Change? Unfortunately and knowingly, the Ugandan voter voted for more than 'No Change" because it meant Museveni would deal No Change by maintaining the status quo of corrupt and murderous officials. So while the Ugandan understanding of No Change was about keeping Museveni as president, Museveni's definition of this (mis)understanding was that he had a blanket approval to continue human rights abuses, public office abuses and corruption. Y'know, the interesting thing about African presidents is that once elected or once they fight their way in, it is the people who owe them and not vice versa; it is the people who are answerable to them, not them answerable to the people. And the first is true because they instantly become authoritarian dictators where they give orders to the people not knowing they are one among millions, not millions against one. Only has that been proven otherwise, in S.Africa when for the first time a sitting president got ousted by his party and he left without a fight because he knew he was just one among the millions who chose him and who had the right to take him out. EM, I still don't know how and why African leaders suddenly become invincible, above the laws of the land and authoritarian dictators who suddenly, to say the least, privatize the country running it as a personal property/business. I bet Zimbabweans will see this in under a year should Tsivangirai be president. Assuming change is for the betterment of citizens and the country, do African leaders want change or do African leaders fear change? I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nyar Nyar'Onyango; Oryema Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] NOW THIS IS A REAL CHANGE TO AFRICANS OJ The word out there is that Obama is going to keep Gates as his defense secretary and Gates has accepted. If this is true, then some of us can continue to state that it is not about stating that you will bring change but the entire campaign should have been to list those changes. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Orombi Criticises Alur Over Witchcraft
Orombi Criticises Alur Over Witchcraft New Vision (Kampala) NEWS 27 November 2008 Posted to the web 28 November 2008 Kampala THE Anglican archbishop, Henry Luke Orombi, has told the Alur to stop witchcraft to fight poverty. "People still share one grass-thatched hut with goats, children, chicken and ducks. You Alur people should have trust in God and stop witchcraft. Stop giving yourselves names like Kumakech (I am unlucky), Ajaruva and Masedi (disturbance), among others associated with poverty," he said. "An Alur will not want to see his fellow Alur prospering; they prefer seeing other tribes developing as they bewitch themselves. An Alur will wake up at night and sprinkle blood on the doorway of his fellow Alur who is developing. We must stop this backward habit." Orombi's wife Phoebe advised the Alur in other areas to develop their home area. "As you work in Gulu, Kampala and other places, think of putting up some structure at home where you body will be laid when you are dead," she said. Orombi was meeting the Nebbi community living in Gulu and Amuru districts on Tuesday in Bardege division, Gulu. He urged the elders to teach the children and women the Alur culture. Orombi is on a one-week pastoral visit to the diocese of northern Uganda. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Woman arrested selling boy for sh23m
Basoboklwe, what the hell is happening out West? Are Musevenistas beginning to feel the financial bite too? The New Vision <http://newvision.co.ug/IM/logo_white_big.gif> Woman arrested selling boy for sh23m Publication date: Wednesday, 26th November, 2008 <http://newvision.co.ug/PA/8/12/NP/1227727940seller.jpg> Scovia Mbabazi, the seller of the boy, at Kalisizo Police Station; Frank Hagirimaana on sale for sh23m By Ali Mambule in Masaka THE Police have arrested a Rwandan woman trying to sell a 15-year-old boy for sh23m. The Police identified the suspects as Scovia Mbabazi, 28, of Rushenyi village, Rweyare sub-county in Mbarara district. Mbabazi's arrest comes as the Police intensify the hunt for Kampala tycoon Kato Kajubi over a gruesome ritual murder in Masaka district. She was arrested when a Police officer pretended to buy the boy, the district Police commander, Juma Okungo, said. The boy identified as Frank Hagirimaana, a Hutu, said he was picked from Bugesera Zone, Kabugakomini in Kigalingari district, Rwanda by Mbabazi who promised to get him a job. Okungo said on Monday, Mbabazi approached a would-be accomplice, Fred Kasinga, of Kyotera town in Rakai district to look for a buyer. Mbabazi promised him a sh3m commission, the Police said. The woman, the Police added, lied that she lived in Sanje on the Kyotera-Mutukula road in Rakai but they discovered that she had spent two days in a lodge in Kyotera town and had not paid the bills. "She pleaded that she would pay after selling her goods," Okungo said. In a statement to the Police, the would-be accomplice reported the matter because he could not understand why the woman would sell the boy. Okungo said a policeman, Rashid Luyinda, from Kyotera Police post, wearing a suit, pretended to be a tycoon interested in buying the boy. Mbabazi initially asked for sh50m. After pleading for a discount, she reluctantly accepted sh23m and insisted she had to pay a sh3m commission to the broker. Luyinda, however, requested Mbabazi to show him the boy before paying the money. She promised to bring him within an hour, saying he was in Sanje. "We wanted to first rescue the boy before arresting the woman and we immediately arrested Mbabazi when she brought the boy who had no knowledge of what was going on," Okungo added. Mbabazi, however, told the Police that although she was selling the boy, she did not intend to sacrifice him. "I thought the rich man wanted to give him a job." Mbabazi was detained at Kalisizo Police Station. The Police said investigations into the matter are going on and that Mbabazi would be charged with child trafficking. Okungo said he was waiting for instructions from the Masaka regional Police to instruct them on what to do with the boy who is now under Police care. SEE Related story under National news This article can be found on-line at: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/661550 C Copyright 2000-2008 The New Vision. All rights reserved. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><<1227727940seller.jpg>><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Bush fire building strength: After Miria, the deluge
After Miria's announcement, here comes another from one willing to sacrifice his bread'n'butter for reason. I hope the bush fire engulfs Kaguta and force him to resign as well - for our own good, that is. The New Vision <http://newvision.co.ug/IM/logo_white_big.gif> Forest manager resigns Publication date: Wednesday, 26th November, 2008 By Gerald Tenywa A SENIOR manager of the Budongo Forest Reserve in Masindi and Bulisa districts has resigned. Deziderius Irumba said the objectives and core values of the National Forestry Authority (NFA) were being violated. But the resignation is yet to be accepted. He also said the staff on the ground were being ignored in favour of "illegal operators". "I am not able to serve under these circumstances," said Irumba in his resignation letter of October 31. Irumba was the sector manager of the NFA for about four years and had been based in Budongo, Uganda's largest natural forest which covers about 825 square kilometres. Prior to his resignation, Irumba and his superiors disagreed over logging in Budongo. He had accused a pitsawyer of operating in the forest illegally for a year. But his bosses instead accused him of frustrating the pitsawyer. The resignation follows President Yoweri Museveni's directive stopping leasing of chunks of forest reserves to private investors to plant trees. The individuals, Museveni said, had abused the reserves by cutting down trees and mining sand there. Commenting on the resignation, Hudson Andrua, the director of natural forests, said Irumba would face the management to prove his allegations "to help the organisation improve". "He should build instead of destroying it." Andrua said investigations had been conducted following the reports of irregularities in Budongo sector since March. "Irumba, as a manager, is accountable for a number of things," Andrua said. "So he cannot run away by resigning." Earlier, Andrua said Irumba had been cautioned over some "mistakes". Before joining NFA, Irumba worked with the defunct Forest Department and handled collaborative forestry management in Budongo and Sango Bay. Under the strategy, NFA involves the communities near forests, by giving them responsibilities to take care of the forests. "I worked in Sango Bay and contributed to its protection and integrity at the time when it was faced with rampant illegal activities," said Irumba. "I worked tirelessly to protect Budongo central forest reserve and it is on record that illegal activities have reduced." His post is three positions below the executive head of the largest forestry body mandated to manage 506 reserves. He was manager of the Budongo, Masege and Kasongoire reserves, totalling 58,000 hectares. Nyabyeya forest and Rwesama lie in Budongo sector, but are managed by Nyabyeya Forestry College. This article can be found on-line at: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/661552 C Copyright 2000-2008 The New Vision. All rights reserved. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] China to hang four Ugandans
e island in September 2005. The Indian security in April 2003 arrested a 27-year-old Uganda woman, Ndagire S. Elizabeth, at the New Delhi airport trying to smuggle out heroin. In September 2001, the then head of the Uganda Police Anti-narcotics unit, Johnson Ayela, said over 30 Ugandans were being held in the US for drug trafficking. According to Ugandan security authorities, Entebbe International Airport is also being used as a transit route for heroin and mandrax from the Far East en route to South Africa. There have been increased seizures of heroin, with Nigerian connections, bound for Uganda through Ethiopia. Due to the large amount of the substance seized, "one is inclined to conclude that Uganda is in this context used as a major country of transit," according to the 2007 report of the UN Office for Drugs and Crime. Seven kilogrammes of cocaine and 1.34kg of heroin were seized in 2007 at Entebbe Airport. The Police arrested five Pakistani nationals in connection with the substance, the Police crime report of 2007 said. This article can be found on-line at: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/12/661549 C Copyright 2000-2008 The New Vision. All rights reserved. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><<1227727687gidoso.jpg>><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] When hospitals are death traps
are mobilisation, education, and support for mothers and children under five at the community level using village health teams to increase access to new born care and their mothers at family level. Until such programmes are effectively implemented, however, safe delivery will continue to elude ordinary women like Ms Mpagazi as the risks of their own lives being taken while their giving birth to others remain high. Warom Felix Okello, David Mafabi, Sheila Naturinda, Otushabire Tibyagye and Jane Nafula C Copyright 2008 by Monitor Online I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] FDC to drop Latigo, Wadri
>From Monitor Online FDC to drop Latigo, Wadri Posted in: News <http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/news/index.shtml> By Gerald Bareebe Nov 27, 2008 - 2:49:42 AM Kampala The National Executive Council of the opposition Forum for Democratic yesterday resolved to review the performance of its leadership in Parliament as a proposal was floated to replace Prof. Ogenga Latigo as leader of the Opposition, and Mr Kassiano Wadri, as chief whip. The decision may bring to an end the political roles of the two MPs in these critical positions less than three years after they took office. The decision was arrived at during the Nec meeting at FDC headquarters in Najjanankumbi. Chaired by party president Kizza Besigye, the Nec resolved that a reshuffle in the opposition leadership should take place before Parliament breaks off for recess on December 17. The Nec comprises MPs, chairpersons and vice chairpersons of regions, including all national chairpersons and their deputies of the different party leagues. A source that attended the six-hour closed door meeting told Daily Monitor last evening that Aruu County MP Odonga Otto queried the performance of the opposition MPs, telling colleagues that current leadership "is as incompetent as our NRM counterparts who only enjoy driving expensive cars and pocketing allowances." According to the source who asked for anonymity because he is not authorised to speak on behalf of the party, Mr Otto reportedly said, "Our current leadership in Parliament has not performed to our expectations." His statement drew stiff resistance from some quarters led by Mr Wadri and Tororo County MP Geoffrey Ekanya, who protested the idea of the Nec choosing new opposition leaders, and argued that was the work of the FDC parliamentary caucus. The source said Mr Otto was supported by Kasilo County MP Elijah Okupa, Bugweri MP Abdul Katuntu and Aswa MP Reagan Okumu. Prof. Latigo did not attend the meeting, the source said. Ms Salaam Musumba, the FDC Vice chairperson and Rubaga North MP Beti Kamya were also absent. The Nec, however, resolved to task Mr Latigo to submit performance reviews of every opposition shadow minister, to the party's steering committee so that a date to elect new leaders can be set. Mr Wadri admitted yesterday that the performance of some shadow ministers was "wanting" but said it was healthy that his position and that of Prof. Latigo have been put under scrutiny. "It's true some of their performances have been wanting," Mr Wadri said by telephone yesterday. "We joined this Parliament when our multiparty democracy was young. If they want to replace me I am ready to give way to others who can take it up, it's healthy and normal," he added. Prof. Latigo was unavailable for comment and did not answer repeated calls. The position of Leader of Opposition is constitutional, and is elected by the opposition party with the biggest number of MPs. The FDC has 38 MPs out of 59 opposition seats. Given its numerical strength, it also has the power of determining who makes it to the shadow cabinet. There are 21 ministers in the shadow cabinet, excluding the leader of Opposition and opposition chief whip. C Copyright 2008 by Monitor Online I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Fw: THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY SECOND
Holiiieee Cow...! So how come the Brits kept theirs quiet like a holy society yet were quick to report and dwell on the Austrian as though there were no monsters in UK? I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:23 PM To: ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nyar Nyar'Onyango; Oryema Johnson; Dr. Valentine Ojo Subject: [Ugnet] Fw: THERE IS A SUCKER BORN EVERY SECOND Briton gets life for raping and impregnating his 2 daughters Tue Nov 25, 1:55 PM By The Associated Press LONDON - A British court has sentenced a man who repeatedly raped his two daughters over more than 25 years to life in prison. The court found that the 56-year-old man subjected his daughters to years of abuse and impregnated them 19 times. The daughters had a number of miscarriages and abortions but bore him nine children, two of whom died at birth. Lawyer Nicholas Campbell said Tuesday that the abuse started when the two sisters reached the age 8. The man plead guilty to 25 counts of rape and four counts of indecent assault last month at Sheffield Crown Court in northern England. Neither he nor his daughters can be identified due to legal restrictions. The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] What a lousy response....! - Uganda health ministryresponse
nly one week and submitted to Accountant General's office for tax clearance en route to Uganda Revenue Authority (URA) for the release of the equipment. Records show that the Ministry of Health has been clearing taxes on imports for Dr. Clarke for years should know by now know that for the Government to pay taxes on imported medical supplies, a formal application accompanied by a URA tax assessment declaration and valid MoU with the ministry are required. There are no shortcuts for anybody. Mary L. Nannono Permanent Secretary Ministry of Health I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ugnet] What a lousy response! - Uganda health ministryresponse Peter Gwokto Kindly get me the Email address of this nice lady. Thank you EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'The First <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Virtual Network for friends of Uganda' Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [Ugnet] What a lousy response! - Uganda health ministryresponse BBC NEWS <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/printer_friendly/news_logo.gif> Uganda health ministry response Mary L Nannono, permanent secretary at Uganda's ministry of health, sent the following statement in response to claims made in Panorama: Addicted to Aid: 1. I have not been able to establish how much money has come to the Health Sector since the 1960s. I do know however that Uganda has gone through a very difficult patch since that time which has severely affected its social, economic as well as political fibre. Where we are now in terms of health service delivery should be measured against where we have come from and not where we should ideally be. A lot of progress has been made. 2. There is no shortage of gloves but there are problems with users accurately predicting their needs to allow timely procurement. The procurement and supply management process is being addressed. As for paracetamol, Mulago is a referral hospital and the drug is not among the indicator tracer drugs for that level and may be out of stock sometimes. 3. Staffing levels at the referral hospitals and indeed at all the health units are not optimal but the staff are dedicated and do a good job in spite of the constraints they face. 4. It is not true that critically injured patients are left to bleed to death. No health unit would do something like that. Owing to staffing gaps however, there may be delays in attending to some patients. Uganda continues to have a high number of road traffic accidents. We have developed client/patient charters to sensitize the patients on their rights. We have strong partnerships with private-not-for-profit health units as well as representatives of civil society organisations in our governance structures. 5. Mulago hospital receives a lot more patients than it should get because patients do not go to lower health units. The matter is being addressed through rehabilitation of peripheral health units and the planned construction of four divisional hospitals in Greater Kampala. 6. Levels of sanitation are generally poor, even outside the hospitals. The hospital clients belong to the same population. There is no evidence to prove that hospital clients and staff are being infected through poor hospital procedures. 7. It is true that there is a space problem in the labour suite. It was constructed to accommodate 18 mothers but receives up to 80 per day. A new labour suite is being constructed to address this problem. 8. For the reason mentioned in 7 above, mothers who deliver normally are observed for 24 hours and discharged with instructions to return in case anything unusual develops. 9. Mulago hospital has four operating ambulances, will procure one more this financial year and two next financial year. 10. The Ministry of Health has 217 vehicles of different sizes and capacities and not all of them are 4x4. Only 10 of these were purchased using the Ministry budget. The rest came in through project support. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/programmes/panorama/7742558.stm Published: 2008/11/21 15:57:46 GMT C BBC MMVIII I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim High
[Ugnet] email Nannono
EM, Try this one too: The Head Procurement and Disposal Unit, Ministry of Health Plot 6, Lourdel Road, P.0 Box 7272 Kampala. Telephone: 256-414-256945, 256 (0)712-861319 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary L. Nannono PERMANET SECRETARY MINISTRY OF HEALTH./PR0446/SRVCS/COMMUNITYHEALTH/2008 I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] What a lousy response....! - Uganda health ministryresponse
Ms. Mary L. Nannono - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary L. Nannono EM, The email is as above. I went looking for her but was even more surprised to find the Min. of Health website for Uganda giving me this messahe: Bandwidth Limit Exceeded The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. _ Apache/2.0.61 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.61 OpenSSL/0.9.8b mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.5 Server at www.health.go.ug Port 80 Can anyone imagine it the Ministry of HEALTH unable to secure enuff bandwidth to ensure the public is informed? God Help Us.! I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ugnet] What a lousy response! - Uganda health ministryresponse Peter Gwokto Kindly get me the Email address of this nice lady. Thank you EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message - From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'The First <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Virtual Network for friends of Uganda' Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:11 AM Subject: [Ugnet] What a lousy response! - Uganda health ministryresponse BBC NEWS <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/printer_friendly/news_logo.gif> Uganda health ministry response Mary L Nannono, permanent secretary at Uganda's ministry of health, sent the following statement in response to claims made in Panorama: Addicted to Aid: 1. I have not been able to establish how much money has come to the Health Sector since the 1960s. I do know however that Uganda has gone through a very difficult patch since that time which has severely affected its social, economic as well as political fibre. Where we are now in terms of health service delivery should be measured against where we have come from and not where we should ideally be. A lot of progress has been made. 2. There is no shortage of gloves but there are problems with users accurately predicting their needs to allow timely procurement. The procurement and supply management process is being addressed. As for paracetamol, Mulago is a referral hospital and the drug is not among the indicator tracer drugs for that level and may be out of stock sometimes. 3. Staffing levels at the referral hospitals and indeed at all the health units are not optimal but the staff are dedicated and do a good job in spite of the constraints they face. 4. It is not true that critically injured patients are left to bleed to death. No health unit would do something like that. Owing to staffing gaps however, there may be delays in attending to some patients. Uganda continues to have a high number of road traffic accidents. We have developed client/patient charters to sensitize the patients on their rights. We have strong partnerships with private-not-for-profit health units as well as representatives of civil society organisations in our governance structures. 5. Mulago hospital receives a lot more patients than it should get because patients do not go to lower health units. The matter is being addressed through rehabilitation of peripheral health units and the planned construction of four divisional hospitals in Greater Kampala. 6. Levels of sanitation are generally poor, even outside the hospitals. The hospital clients belong to the same population. There is no evidence to prove that hospital clients and staff are being infected through poor hospital procedures. 7. It is true that there is a space problem in the labour suite. It was constructed to accommodate 18 mothers but receives up to 80 per day. A new labour suite is being constructed to address this problem. 8. For the reason mentioned in 7 above, mothers who deliver normally are observed for 24 hours and discharged with instructions to return in case anything unusual develops. 9. Mulago hospital has four operating ambulances, will procure one more this financial year and two next financial year. 10. The Ministry of Health has 217 vehicles of different sizes and capacities and not all of them are 4x4. Only 10 of these were purchased using the Ministry budget. The rest came in through project support. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/programmes/panorama/7742558.stm Published: 2008/11/21 15:57:46 GMT C BBC MMVIII I am Peter-Rha
[Ugnet] What a lousy response....! - Uganda health ministry response
BBC NEWS <http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/printer_friendly/news_logo.gif> Uganda health ministry response Mary L Nannono, permanent secretary at Uganda's ministry of health, sent the following statement in response to claims made in Panorama: Addicted to Aid: 1. I have not been able to establish how much money has come to the Health Sector since the 1960s. I do know however that Uganda has gone through a very difficult patch since that time which has severely affected its social, economic as well as political fibre. Where we are now in terms of health service delivery should be measured against where we have come from and not where we should ideally be. A lot of progress has been made. 2. There is no shortage of gloves but there are problems with users accurately predicting their needs to allow timely procurement. The procurement and supply management process is being addressed. As for paracetamol, Mulago is a referral hospital and the drug is not among the indicator tracer drugs for that level and may be out of stock sometimes. 3. Staffing levels at the referral hospitals and indeed at all the health units are not optimal but the staff are dedicated and do a good job in spite of the constraints they face. 4. It is not true that critically injured patients are left to bleed to death. No health unit would do something like that. Owing to staffing gaps however, there may be delays in attending to some patients. Uganda continues to have a high number of road traffic accidents. We have developed client/patient charters to sensitize the patients on their rights. We have strong partnerships with private-not-for-profit health units as well as representatives of civil society organisations in our governance structures. 5. Mulago hospital receives a lot more patients than it should get because patients do not go to lower health units. The matter is being addressed through rehabilitation of peripheral health units and the planned construction of four divisional hospitals in Greater Kampala. 6. Levels of sanitation are generally poor, even outside the hospitals. The hospital clients belong to the same population. There is no evidence to prove that hospital clients and staff are being infected through poor hospital procedures. 7. It is true that there is a space problem in the labour suite. It was constructed to accommodate 18 mothers but receives up to 80 per day. A new labour suite is being constructed to address this problem. 8. For the reason mentioned in 7 above, mothers who deliver normally are observed for 24 hours and discharged with instructions to return in case anything unusual develops. 9. Mulago hospital has four operating ambulances, will procure one more this financial year and two next financial year. 10. The Ministry of Health has 217 vehicles of different sizes and capacities and not all of them are 4x4. Only 10 of these were purchased using the Ministry budget. The rest came in through project support. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/programmes/panorama/7742558.stm Published: 2008/11/21 15:57:46 GMT C BBC MMVIII I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] The Hard Stuff: "He Said Another Woman's Name in Bed!"
The Hard Stuff: "He Said Another Woman's Name in Bed!" By Karen Karbo Her husband called her by another woman's name when they were intimate and she's having a tough time brushing it off. Is she being too sensitive? Q: I've been married for 27 years. I love my husband very much, but I can't seem to get past something that happened. The other night while we were in the middle of making love, he called me by another name. Needless to say, that ended the lovemaking for the night. He has apologized over and over for doing it. He seems to be sincere, but I still can't get it out of my head. I don't think he's having an affair, but one never knows. Am I being too sensitive? What can I do to get over this? - J.S., 48, Detroit A: You're not being too sensitive. Your man stuck his foot in his mouth at the worst possible moment and has shaken your trust, which is the basic foundation of the marriage. Way to go, hubster! Your shrugging this off with no thought to what it might mean would actually display a worrisome insensitivity on your part. That said, I'd like to suggest that maybe it really was just an innocent slip of the tongue. And even if he was thinking of someone else, that doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't love you or that he loves you less. Be honest: Have you never thought of someone or something else during sex? You ask how to get over this. If you can't shrug it off, then don't kiss and make up until you can say, "I forgive you" and mean it. You must respect the degree to which this incident upset you, which is also a way of respecting yourself. We sometimes forget that we can live with someone and be miffed at them at the same time. You can coexist and be civil and say, "You know, I'm still upset about that night. I'll get over it, but I haven't yet. Stay tuned." Over time, the event will recede into the past and your husband's overall good, loving, dish-drying-without-being-asked behavior will reassert itself - and this bad moment will become a blip on the big screen of your long, happy marriage. And, yes, your attitude toward a possible affair is exactly right. Your instincts tell you he's not being unfaithful, but one really never knows. Give him the benefit of the doubt unless something else happens that fuels your concern. Otherwise, you'll make yourself crazy. Award-winning writer Karen Karbo is the author of How to Hepburn: Lessons on Living From Kate the Great. She's also a mom, a writing teacher, and a horse owner. Send your questions to her at: The Hard Stuff, REDBOOK, 300 W. 57th St., New York, NY 10019 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Letters may be edited for clarity and length, and must include your initials, age, city, and state. For more advice from Karen, go to redbookmag.com/karenkarbo. <http://boards.live.com/Lifestyleboards/thread.aspx?threadid=852738> Discuss: What are you thankful for this season? Reprinted with permission of Hearst Communications, Inc. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Origins of Gun politics in a free Uganda
I just found out last evening from the horse's mouth himself that "Masaka" means nothing in Luganda because it was a name given by Rwandese immigrants. The Rwandese were very surpised at what they saw after traversing the terrain only to see - guess what - sorghum in the area now called Masaka. Masaka in Rwandese for sorghum. I don't know from which Rwandese group. Apparently, it is also the same group that named Kibuye which also has no meaning in Luganda. But kibuye is a an admin district/region of Rwanda. So next time you hear a surburb of Ottawa named Kitgum City, you definitely know it is not a Mohawk name. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ocii Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:55 PM To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Cc: VoU VoiceofUganda Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Origins of Gun politics in a free Uganda I am being curious here since it appears massacre occured in"Masaka" then, before the dawn of our independent. My question to Bwana Mitayo is, was the name "Masaka" granted the place after the "masacre", or the word "massacre" as we know in English dictionary rose as a result of the massacre in "Masaka", thereby giving an adulterated word of massacre the name Masaka, of a place in Buganda? Ocii --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Ugnet] Origins of Gun politics in a free Uganda To: "The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda" Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 2:15 PM Comrade Yoga Adhola, Thank you for the document: Patriotism and neo-traditionalism in Buganda: the KabakaYekka (The King Alone) Movement, 1961-1962. Journal of African History. I was disappointed that the focus of this text is on the structure and office holders of KY then. My interest was/is to assert the truth that it is Kabaka Yekka that introduced violence into Uganda's body politic, (!961-1962). This document hardly even refers to this aspect. For that matter I have no time to go off in some wild-goose-chase discussing it. It is interesting though that the White man, the British, I.R. Hancock, mentions his interaction with KY Secretary General Masembe-Kabali. May he have been an MI6 like William Pike was in the Luweero triangle? Surely I would not go, for example, to William Pike for a redemptive account of the Luweero Neither to Musevini's cheerleader, Ms Els De Temmerman, of the New Vision, the author of "Aboke Girls", about the sodomy extermination etc of our people in Acholi. They are all mercenaries thriving on our decay, like maggots. You have to note however that throughout, these KY fellows question the 'royalty' to Mengo/(Kabaka) of us in Masaka (Buddu, Mawogola, Kooki, Kabula and Ssese). Note also that at no time did KY conflict with British interests or personnel. Note also the explicit understanding between KY and UPC to destroy/eliminate DP (page 427). The core leadership of KY was King's College Budo Old Boys. (Your Alma mater). The ecxeption being Francis Walugembe. Note also the oblique reference to the stealing of the 1962 elections in Buganda. ( Hon Eriya Kategaya has also asserted that Uganda's Independence election was stollen for UPC by the British. You have seen this claim I am very positive) It is on page 432 that in a William Pike like fashion this Hanock fellow refers to the wanton arson and murder in Masaka as "crude intimidation and clever electioneering" Ronald Muwenda Mutebi, the present Kabaka of Buganda has referred to the late AbuMayanja as a patriot or was it nationalist. A sick joke !! It is interesting that on page 432 Mayanja's main pre-occupation was "to impress Europeans and Asians" So you see Brother Adhola, there is nothing in this document, on the blood and tears of our dear ones in Masaka District in that dark pre-independence period One revelation I was not aware of was that the financing of KY was by some Indian merchants. That is new to me.(page 428) Thanks all the same. Mitayo Potosi == Comrade Ochieno, You want to limit issues to a "free" Uganda? I guess that is, after 9th October 1962. By that yardstick the self rule period under Ben Kiwanuka has no bearing on what has transpired since then. But that is the period of my focus. You are free to give an analysis of another period of your choice. Let us also zero in on specifics and individuals. Donkey years have been wasted on meaningless generalities like: Baganda are bad/conceited/insular or whatever. Acholi are brutal. Batooro are lazy. Ban
RE: [Ugnet] Uganda and the Byanyimas mourn for a beloved Mother.
Balton Uganda Ltd (BUL), is run by Ze'ev Shiff. This dude was the only one who survived the Congo crash with $1.2 million. He is not to be confused with Ze'ev Shiff, a famous Israeli war correspondant who died in 2007. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitayo Potosi Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Uganda and the Byanyimas mourn for a beloved Mother. Give me time. I will find you the name of the Israeli fellow who, effectively, is the real commander for PGB. His name has been popping around of late. The fellow is doing a couple of businesses around Kampala. He even has a publicly registered and operating company around. I will definetely fish it up for you. Meanwhile try http://radiokatwe.com/mufisadiamama0800902.htm Can somebody out there help with this name? Help fellow Ugandans who seem to have missed this detail about our country !! On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:47 PM, ocii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Now another Israeli is in complete command of Museveni's PGB. Stupid and naive as we seem to always be, Mayombo befriended this guy may be in the hope that it was the easiest way to remove Museveni. " Mitayo Potosi, So, based on your argument above, the late Mayombo was Mayomboed because of a plan (his), to remove Mu7 - but of which he confided to the wrong man - the Israelis? What is the name of that Israelis commander now commanding PGB? Ocii --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Uganda and the Byanyimas mourn for a beloved Mother. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda" Received: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 5:39 PM Brother Odiya, I have just read on your website some request to Obama to reign in the goons that masquerade around as Africa's leaders. I would be pleasantly surprised or even shocked if he did this. It may appear like conspiracy theory but I am sincerely convinced that Obama is just a mask for corporate neoliberals. The only power blocks of the Western world seem to be only corporate neoliberals and/or militaristic neoconservatives. Both of them are locked in a scramble for plunder and our strangulation. One is no better than the other. DP is busy running to Britain to offer to prostitute our country to British Conservatives. Not to be left out of the mad rush, Ruzindana of FDC has never been so busy dragging around Dr Besigye, introducing and hawking him to the same forces of supremacy and doom. Comrade Odiya, while at Makerere, just before the coup that brought Amin to power, I will never forget the trepidation by the most powerful man after Obote then, one Basil Bataringaya - Minister of Internal Affairs- when he was publicly crying out to Obote about the grave danger of allowing Col Bar Lev, the Israel military attache then, to assume virtually the command of all Uganda's military. It is this same Bar Lev, with Defence Minister Sharon, that later went on to overran and massacre Palestinian refugees in now the infamous Shatilla camps. On the day after the coup a few of us students went to the grounds of Parliament to see what was going on. Bataringaya's head had been cut off. His head had been hoisted on a long metal spike and was being paraded around the streets of Kampala. It is a shock of a lifetime, and not easy to forget or recover from. Is it Idi Amin who did it or Bar Lev? Who knows. Now another Israeli is in complete command of Museveni's PGB. Stupid and naive as we seem to always be, Mayombo befriended this guy may be in the hope that it was the easiest way to remove Museveni. But Israeli interests are focused on maintaining into power a beastly brute like Museveni because that is the easiest way and cover to loot Uganda, Congo etc I only cry for the other two fellows Mayombo put in danger i.e. Military engineers Ssendegeya and Egesa. But as an addition to the piece which I recently wrote/posted here, about Masaka, when the British were removing Ben Kiwanuka to replace him by Obote they compromised him in rigging him into power. ( Eriya Kategaya himself has sworn this to Ugandans). That is the likely explanation why Obote trusted our military command to foreigners, the constituency that put him in power, rather than Ugandans, who he knew had not voted for him. Now don't get me wrong. There are many things that were progressive about Obote. Even with my such preamble, instead of debating these issues to see where our country went astray the likes of Yoga Adola would
[Ugnet] Cheeky! 'Butt bandit' suspect nabbed
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/images/MSNBC/msnbc_ban.gif> MSNBC.com Cheeky! 'Butt bandit' suspect nabbed Man arrested after allegedly leaving greasy imprints on windows The Associated Press updated 8:26 p.m. ET, Fri., Nov. 21, 2008 OMAHA, Neb. - Police have arrested a man suspected of leaving greasy, graphic imprints on the windows of stores, churches and schools in a small Nebraska town. A 35-year-old man was caught in the act by police early Wednesday morning, Cherry County Attorney Eric Scott said Friday. The man hasn't been charged yet, but authorities believe he is the vandal some townsfolk have dubbed the "Butt Bandit." Beginning in spring of 2007, a mystery vandal visited businesses at night, pressing his naked behind - sometimes his groin, sometimes both - on windows. The marks were made with lotion or petroleum jelly, and while police had earlier worried copycat criminals were getting involved, Scott said they now believe it's "the act of a lone deviant." "This isn't normal behavior for Valentine, Neb.," Scott said. "It's an embarrassment for the hardworking people who live here." The man was spotted by police about 3:30 a.m. Wednesday and arrested without incident, Scott said. The suspect appears to be the same man caught on a surveillance camera at the middle school last year, he said. Valentine, a town of about 2,650 in remote north-central Nebraska, lies near the scenic Niobrara River. The city was named one of the top "wilderness" towns in the country last year by National Geographic Adventure magazine. People from around the country send Valentine's Day cards to the city's post office so they can be mailed out with the word "Valentine" stamped on them. The past two summers, the bandit struck business after business, window after window. He stopped over the fall and winter. During one particularly brazen session, virtually all the windows at a local hotel were imprinted. Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27848361/?gt1=43001 MSN Privacy <http://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/privacy.aspx> . Legal <http://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/terms.aspx> C 2008 MSNBC.com I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] RE: [Str8talk-2011] Suicide and the law
Thanks Philip. I thought so. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Okelo Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Str8talk-2011] Suicide and the law Hello there, Please find the answers to your question below: The first two answers involve Canada. And the third and last one involves England and the US with exception of certain states in the US. Suppose some one wants to die and she goes stands on a bridge and falls down. Suppose she fails to die, but simply breaks some borns, the Police brings in an ambulance and takes her to hospital and she survives. Can she be charged and if so what is the charge? 1. Any person who, with intent to take his own life, commits upon himself any act dangerous to human life, or which if committed upon or toward another person and followed by death as a consequence would render the perpetrator chargeable with homicide, is guilty of attempting suicide. 2. At common law, the person who knowingly aided the suicide victim would be considered a principal in the homicide offense if he was present when the suicide occurred; he would be considered an accessory before the fact if he provided aid but was not at the scene at the time of the death. 3. Modern American attitudes toward punishing both suicide and attempted suicides are similar to those expressed in England. The English Suicide Act, 1961, 9 & 10 Eliz. 2, c. 60, s. 1, provides that suicide should no longer be deemed criminal. Thanks Philip _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try <http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx &mkt=en-us> it! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ An unmoderated Ugandan discussion group. Write intelligently, and write responsibly. While contributions to this forum are unmoderated, belittling yourself by posting nonsensical hateful remarks is your own shame and confirms utter stupidity. Kindly focus on initiating and/or contributing to intelligent and constructive discussions on Uganda's social, political, cultural and economic issues. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/str8talk-ug2011?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Did you know Gadhafi is half-French...?
<http://timescorrespondents.typepad.com/charles_bremner/2008/02/is-colonel-g add.html> Did you know Col. Gaddafi a Frenchman? <http://timescorrespondents.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategor ized/2008/02/17/gaddafi.jpg> Gaddafi If Colonel Gaddafi was so eager to linger in Paris when he came last December, it was perhaps because the Libyan leader is half French. His father was an air force pilot from Corsica. That's him in the picture on the left. This extraordinary claim has surfaced over the past few days after a report by Bakchich <http://www.bakchich.info/> , a French investigative news site. They looked into a legend which has long circulated in Vezzani, <http://www.corsica.net/corsica/fr/regaler/costas/vezzani.htm> a village of 600 people in eastern Corsica. According to this, a Vezzani gendarme's son called Albert Preziosi was stationed in the Libyan desert with the Free French air force in 1941-42. He is said to have had an affair with a local woman at about the time that young Muammar would have been conceived. Preziosi was killed when his aeroplane was shot down over Russia in 1943. As a member of the famous Normandy-Niemen <http://www.fncv.com/biblio/conflits/1939-1945/normandie-niemen/risso_va.htm l> squadron, he has been celebrated as a hero in his home village ever since. An air force base near the town of Solenzara, is named after him. Not a shred of evidence exists to stand up the Gaddafi legend but the physical resemblance is so strong that it has persisted. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: {UAH} Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Definitely. Even here in Canada you will be arrested for a failed suicide
because you are already considered a danger to society. I believe it is the
same in Uganda as I remember but Uganda's laws are a whole load of garbage
these days just targeting individuals - terrorists, they claim.
I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message.
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From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: ugandanet@kym.net
Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE
AUDIENCE
Robert Ssenkindu
Suppose some one wants to die and she goes stands on a bridge and falls
down. Suppose she fails to die, but simply breaks some borns, the Police
brings in an ambulance and takes her to hospital and she survives.
Can she be charged and if so what is the charge?
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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From: Robert Ssenkindu <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: ugandanet@kym.net
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: {UAH} Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE
AUDIENCE
Mr Mulindwa Edward,
In most common law countries, a person who aids,a bets, counsels or
procuress another to kill himself is guilty of murder as an accomplice,
which in this case is reduced to manslaughter(voluntary). However, it is
again, in common law no offence for an omission, that is a failure to act(
which in this case is a failure to prevent the victim from committing
suicide) where no statutory obligation is imposed. So those who gives
instructions on how to do it(suicide in the case) would probably be found
liable whereas those who merely watched him and didn't aid him in anyway
whatsoever would walk free without being questioned, merey because it is no
statutory obligation for them stop no one from committing suicide.
" I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery"Jean Jaqueas
Rousseau
" Apolitician thinks on the next election - a statesman of the next
generation" James Freeman Clarke
" The State calls its own violence, law;but that of the individual crime" -
Max Stirner "The Ego and His Own (1845)"
"The people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned how to pronouce
the word 'no' -Winston Churchill.
"The more corrupt the state,the numerous the laws- Cornelius Tacitus
"Annals"(c.116.A.D)"
SR. Sveritanien.
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Subject: {UAH} Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE
AUDIENCE
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:11:50 -0500
Gwokto
This kid did every thing on camera, they saw him having the medications and
they cheered on him as he was taking it, for all we know they even advised
him on how to mix it. Forums are a source of great information, there is
some one that knows some thing and how it can be done better. Look at the
guy in UK that blew up him self on camera in a forum, they knew he was going
to blow up him self, they asked him to cock the gun and how shooting on a
chick blows up the dam brains. And I am telling you at age 19 this is great
it is actually hilarious if you can blow up your self on camera for all to
see.
So I ask should we charge them? And what is the offence?
EM
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Mulindwa Edward' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ;
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ugandanet@kym.net
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Subject: RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Problem, EM, is that he was said to have pulled it before but never carried
it thru. However, 1500 watching means something else. They wanted to witness
it and, as stated, some encouraged him to go ahead. I could make my
breakdown of the 1500 this way:
1-Those who encouraged him to do it
2-Those who doubted he would do it
3-Those who doubted the potency of his concoctions
4-Those who tried to stop him (this must me first timers who took him
seriously)
5-Those who were just eager to see someone die - live on camera. Some people
get a kick out of sadistic behaviours. I hear some (excuse me for the
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RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Yes they could be tries as accomplices to suicide but how can you determine a spectator was in one of the 8 categories I listed? Only those who encouraged him to do himself in need to be charged if they can be identified. And this will require obtaining their verbal and/or written blog postings. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Gwokto This kid did every thing on camera, they saw him having the medications and they cheered on him as he was taking it, for all we know they even advised him on how to mix it. Forums are a source of great information, there is some one that knows some thing and how it can be done better. Look at the guy in UK that blew up him self on camera in a forum, they knew he was going to blow up him self, they asked him to cock the gun and how shooting on a chick blows up the dam brains. And I am telling you at age 19 this is great it is actually hilarious if you can blow up your self on camera for all to see. So I ask should we charge them? And what is the offence? EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message - From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Mulindwa Edward' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Problem, EM, is that he was said to have pulled it before but never carried it thru. However, 1500 watching means something else. They wanted to witness it and, as stated, some encouraged him to go ahead. I could make my breakdown of the 1500 this way: 1-Those who encouraged him to do it 2-Those who doubted he would do it 3-Those who doubted the potency of his concoctions 4-Those who tried to stop him (this must me first timers who took him seriously) 5-Those who were just eager to see someone die - live on camera. Some people get a kick out of sadistic behaviours. I hear some (excuse me for the expression) even ejaculate with the excitement. 6-Those who were just there to witness the spectacle 7-Those who thought he was simply an attention-seeker 8-Some spectators were actually contemplating suicide and wanted to see the young man's painless procedures. Whichever way you look at it, he set the ball rolling for his own demise. If it is true that he pulled the hat trick before and many doubted him this time, then the fact he failed to carry out the first episode must have driven him to be real this time because he worried folks would say he was a wimp. So he pulled it finally. My dilemma though is, why would anyone of the 1500 who thought he joked about the scheme in the past, decide to be on the spectators seat without alerting the authorities. These folks are all sick - they are all members of a cyber cult who knew the boy. I bet a few of them will soon do themselves in the same way. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Muzeeyi Gwokto Let us think about this issue from another angle, 1500 people were in this chat room and they you this kid was committing suicide. Should they be arrested? If so what should they be charged with? If I know that some one in a forum wants to end her life is it my responsibility to stop it? Just on record, in Canadian law it is not a crime to commit suicide. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Mulindwa Edward' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; 'The First Virtual <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Network for friends of Uganda' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENC
RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
I want to believe it is a new trend of entertainment akin to the movies. Folks will now snoop the forums and YouTube looking for who will carry out the next live action. Disciples will even try to shield the action hero from being detected or identified by the authorities and their parents or families. They will simply inform each other without alerting any stranger because they enjoy the spectacle or will alert others and the authorities when the event is too late to stop. I an sure there are folks already hunting online for the next release/episode of dare devil suicides. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Gwokto This kid did every thing on camera, they saw him having the medications and they cheered on him as he was taking it, for all we know they even advised him on how to mix it. Forums are a source of great information, there is some one that knows some thing and how it can be done better. Look at the guy in UK that blew up him self on camera in a forum, they knew he was going to blow up him self, they asked him to cock the gun and how shooting on a chick blows up the dam brains. And I am telling you at age 19 this is great it is actually hilarious if you can blow up your self on camera for all to see. So I ask should we charge them? And what is the offence? EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message - From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Mulindwa Edward' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Problem, EM, is that he was said to have pulled it before but never carried it thru. However, 1500 watching means something else. They wanted to witness it and, as stated, some encouraged him to go ahead. I could make my breakdown of the 1500 this way: 1-Those who encouraged him to do it 2-Those who doubted he would do it 3-Those who doubted the potency of his concoctions 4-Those who tried to stop him (this must me first timers who took him seriously) 5-Those who were just eager to see someone die - live on camera. Some people get a kick out of sadistic behaviours. I hear some (excuse me for the expression) even ejaculate with the excitement. 6-Those who were just there to witness the spectacle 7-Those who thought he was simply an attention-seeker 8-Some spectators were actually contemplating suicide and wanted to see the young man's painless procedures. Whichever way you look at it, he set the ball rolling for his own demise. If it is true that he pulled the hat trick before and many doubted him this time, then the fact he failed to carry out the first episode must have driven him to be real this time because he worried folks would say he was a wimp. So he pulled it finally. My dilemma though is, why would anyone of the 1500 who thought he joked about the scheme in the past, decide to be on the spectators seat without alerting the authorities. These folks are all sick - they are all members of a cyber cult who knew the boy. I bet a few of them will soon do themselves in the same way. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Muzeeyi Gwokto Let us think about this issue from another angle, 1500 people were in this chat room and they you this kid was committing suicide. Should they be arrested? If so what should they be charged with? If I know that some one in a forum wants to end her life is it my responsibility to stop it? Just on record, in Canadian law it is not a crime to commit suicide. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Mu
RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Problem, EM, is that he was said to have pulled it before but never carried it thru. However, 1500 watching means something else. They wanted to witness it and, as stated, some encouraged him to go ahead. I could make my breakdown of the 1500 this way: 1-Those who encouraged him to do it 2-Those who doubted he would do it 3-Those who doubted the potency of his concoctions 4-Those who tried to stop him (this must me first timers who took him seriously) 5-Those who were just eager to see someone die - live on camera. Some people get a kick out of sadistic behaviours. I hear some (excuse me for the expression) even ejaculate with the excitement. 6-Those who were just there to witness the spectacle 7-Those who thought he was simply an attention-seeker 8-Some spectators were actually contemplating suicide and wanted to see the young man's painless procedures. Whichever way you look at it, he set the ball rolling for his own demise. If it is true that he pulled the hat trick before and many doubted him this time, then the fact he failed to carry out the first episode must have driven him to be real this time because he worried folks would say he was a wimp. So he pulled it finally. My dilemma though is, why would anyone of the 1500 who thought he joked about the scheme in the past, decide to be on the spectators seat without alerting the authorities. These folks are all sick - they are all members of a cyber cult who knew the boy. I bet a few of them will soon do themselves in the same way. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: Mulindwa Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: Re: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Muzeeyi Gwokto Let us think about this issue from another angle, 1500 people were in this chat room and they you this kid was committing suicide. Should they be arrested? If so what should they be charged with? If I know that some one in a forum wants to end her life is it my responsibility to stop it? Just on record, in Canadian law it is not a crime to commit suicide. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Mulindwa Edward' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; 'The First Virtual <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Network for friends of Uganda' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Holi cow...! Dyiumnnn! He must be deeply mental to do this. Catholics believe suicide is sacrilegious and a definite ticket to Hell. Isn't losing one's life as well as a seat in Heaven double jeopardy? Ya right...! like we know...! I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Florida teenager commits suicide in front of live online audience By Rasha Madkour, The Associated Press MIAMI, Fla. - A South Florida teen died of a lethal drug overdose in front of a live online webcam audience 12 hours after he started blogging about his plan to commit suicide, an investigator said Friday. Abraham Biggs, 19, died Wednesday from a toxic combination of opiates and benzodiazepine, a drug used to treat insomnia and depression, said Wendy Crane, an investigator with the Broward County medical examiner's office. At least one of the drugs was prescribed to him and it's unclear how he got the others, Crane said. Some of those watching encouraged Biggs, others tried to talk him out of it, and a few were debating whether the dose he took was lethal, Crane said. It's unclear how many people were watching. Biggs stated his intentions on a forum at bodybuilding.com, where some users said they did not take him seriously because he had made previous statements about killing himself, Crane said. Biggs posted a link from there to Justin.tv, a site that allows users to broadcast live videos from their webcams. Someone finally notified the moderator of the body building site's forum, who traced the teen's location to Pembrok
RE: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE
Holi cow...! Dyiumnnn! He must be deeply mental to do this. Catholics believe suicide is sacrilegious and a definite ticket to Hell. Isn't losing one's life as well as a seat in Heaven double jeopardy? Ya right...! like we know...! I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] HE COMMITED SUCIDEIN FRONT OF LIVE ONLLINE AUDIENCE Florida teenager commits suicide in front of live online audience By Rasha Madkour, The Associated Press MIAMI, Fla. - A South Florida teen died of a lethal drug overdose in front of a live online webcam audience 12 hours after he started blogging about his plan to commit suicide, an investigator said Friday. Abraham Biggs, 19, died Wednesday from a toxic combination of opiates and benzodiazepine, a drug used to treat insomnia and depression, said Wendy Crane, an investigator with the Broward County medical examiner's office. At least one of the drugs was prescribed to him and it's unclear how he got the others, Crane said. Some of those watching encouraged Biggs, others tried to talk him out of it, and a few were debating whether the dose he took was lethal, Crane said. It's unclear how many people were watching. Biggs stated his intentions on a forum at bodybuilding.com, where some users said they did not take him seriously because he had made previous statements about killing himself, Crane said. Biggs posted a link from there to Justin.tv, a site that allows users to broadcast live videos from their webcams. Someone finally notified the moderator of the body building site's forum, who traced the teen's location to Pembroke Pines and called police, Crane said. Biggs was dead by the time they got to his house around 3:30 p.m. Wednesday, Crane said. He had started blogging at 3 a.m. "He was just seen laying on the bed at that point," she said. Condolences poured into his MySpace page, where the mostly unsmiling teen is seen posing in a series of pictures with various young women. A woman who answered the phone at Biggs' home and identified herself as his sister said the family was still dealing with his death and declined immediate comment. Biggs' father, Abraham Biggs Sr., told ABCNews.com that he was not home when his son died. He said his son struggled with depression and had been prescribed benzodiazepine to treat bipolar disorder. Biggs had been "doing better," his father said. "He was a good kid." The elder Biggs said he was upset that Justin.tv streamed his son's suicide live. "There seems to be a lack of control as to what people put out on the Internet," the elder Biggs said. "There's a lot of garbage out there that should not be, and unfortunately this was allowed to happen." In a statement, Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel said: "We regret that this has occurred and want to respect the privacy of the broadcaster and his family during this time." Messages left with the body-building website were not immediately returned Friday. A spokesman said Pembroke Pines police are investigating but declined further comment. Crane said she knows of at least one other case in which a South Florida man shot himself in the head in front of an online audience, although she didn't know how much viewers saw. In Britain last year, a man hung himself while chatting online. The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Dealing with hangovers
The claim: Sweating helps leach alcohol out of your system more quickly. Our test: "I feel like I'm actually sweating out alcohol. It might just be in my head, but I feel better by doing it." The verdict: The perfect placebo: "You're just doing something to get your mind off the hangover," says Erickson. But you're getting a good workout, too. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Rose Kabuye granted bail in Paris
"Her detention led o many protests across Rwanda and in other parts of the world, claiming that she is innocent and that the downing of a plane is not the cause of the genocide." Is Kabuye being charged for causing genocide or for the 3 French crew? ... or both? I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:21 AM To: ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] Rose Kabuye granted bail in Paris Friday, 21st November 2008 <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/index.php?issue=13721&email&article=11019> <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/print.php?issue=13721&print&article=11019> Rose Kabuye wins first round <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/photos/13721-RK.jpg> Rose Kabuye. BY EUGENE KWIBUKA PARIS - Rose Kabuye Thursday morning overcame the first hurdle in her battle with the French judiciary when she was given a conditional release at her first appearance before the Palais de Justice in Paris. Kabuye was released after more than ten hours waiting for a judges decision after being extradited from Germany. The chief of State Protocol was arrested in the German city of Frankfurt where she had gone to prepare President Paul Kagames visit. Her arrest raised global condemnation, including the African Union and the Pan African Parliament among many, who termed it an abuse of Universal Jurisdiction by both Germany and France. After facing a French investigative judge, the Rwandan diplomat was freed on condition that she will not leave France without a judges permission and that she will be reporting to police every fifteen days. Many Rwandans resident in the French city braved the cold as they awaited Kabuyes fate and jumped with joy when news came that she would not spend the night in jail. Im not so scared because I am very innocent, Kabuye was quoted on the France24 television, as she was mobbed and hugged by well wishers some of whom could not hold back their tears of joy. I know that when I get a chance to explain what happened everything will be okay, so I am not scared, she added. I think she is really happy. Freedom is something important for everybody, her lawyer, Bernard Maingain, told BBC. Rose Kabuye and eight top Rwandan officials were indicted in 2006 by French investigative judge, Jean-Louis Bruguière for the alleged shooting down of a plane carrying former president Juvenal Habyarimana in April 1994. It is such a shame that someone who stopped the genocide should be charged with genocide, said Rwandas Minister of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation, Rosemary Museminali, reacting to the news of Kabuye conditional release. She demanded that Kabuye be released immediately because the report on which the arrest was based was politically motivated. Her detention led o many protests across Rwanda and in other parts of the world, claiming that she is innocent and that the downing of a plane is not the cause of the genocide. Kabuyes case in Paris is being examined by French judges Marc Trévidic and Philippe Coirre. Ends http://www.newtimes.co.rw/index.php?issue=13721 <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/index.php?issue=13721&article=11019> &article=11019 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the forum "Ugandans at Heart" group with the motto:'Justice is when U get exactly what you deserve''. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Ugandans-at-Heart?hl=en NO abusive language accepted on this forum. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Rose Kabuye granted bail in Paris
It is such a shame that someone who stopped the genocide should be charged with genocide, This is a very shameful statement. Just like in Luwero, the perpetuators truly know how to shift responsibilities. Why can't they man-up and say we ignited the genocide? I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:21 AM To: ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] Rose Kabuye granted bail in Paris Friday, 21st November 2008 <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/index.php?issue=13721&email&article=11019> <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/print.php?issue=13721&print&article=11019> Rose Kabuye wins first round <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/photos/13721-RK.jpg> Rose Kabuye. BY EUGENE KWIBUKA PARIS - Rose Kabuye Thursday morning overcame the first hurdle in her battle with the French judiciary when she was given a conditional release at her first appearance before the Palais de Justice in Paris. Kabuye was released after more than ten hours waiting for a judges decision after being extradited from Germany. The chief of State Protocol was arrested in the German city of Frankfurt where she had gone to prepare President Paul Kagames visit. Her arrest raised global condemnation, including the African Union and the Pan African Parliament among many, who termed it an abuse of Universal Jurisdiction by both Germany and France. After facing a French investigative judge, the Rwandan diplomat was freed on condition that she will not leave France without a judges permission and that she will be reporting to police every fifteen days. Many Rwandans resident in the French city braved the cold as they awaited Kabuyes fate and jumped with joy when news came that she would not spend the night in jail. Im not so scared because I am very innocent, Kabuye was quoted on the France24 television, as she was mobbed and hugged by well wishers some of whom could not hold back their tears of joy. I know that when I get a chance to explain what happened everything will be okay, so I am not scared, she added. I think she is really happy. Freedom is something important for everybody, her lawyer, Bernard Maingain, told BBC. Rose Kabuye and eight top Rwandan officials were indicted in 2006 by French investigative judge, Jean-Louis Bruguière for the alleged shooting down of a plane carrying former president Juvenal Habyarimana in April 1994. It is such a shame that someone who stopped the genocide should be charged with genocide, said Rwandas Minister of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation, Rosemary Museminali, reacting to the news of Kabuye conditional release. She demanded that Kabuye be released immediately because the report on which the arrest was based was politically motivated. Her detention led o many protests across Rwanda and in other parts of the world, claiming that she is innocent and that the downing of a plane is not the cause of the genocide. Kabuyes case in Paris is being examined by French judges Marc Trévidic and Philippe Coirre. Ends http://www.newtimes.co.rw/index.php?issue=13721 <http://www.newtimes.co.rw/index.php?issue=13721&article=11019> &article=11019 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the forum "Ugandans at Heart" group with the motto:'Justice is when U get exactly what you deserve''. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Ugandans-at-Heart?hl=en NO abusive language accepted on this forum. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] RE: [Str8talk-2011] Interesting Observation
Interesting...! but who has been giving the Kibakis the perpetual reigns of power? It i the same people who complain against them on a daily basis. Is the ballot - which they have perfected the art of rigging - the only way to rid them off the political stage? I don't think so. They needed to be assassinated, overthrown or mayomboed. These smarties have lived the 45 years because the people allow them to. The people didn't make them to but they allowed them to. It is all the more interesting that after they allow them to continue, the same people cry out immediately they are sworn in. If I am surrounded by fools who allow me to manipulate them successfully, why should I refuse the opportunity? I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mayiko Makula Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Str8talk-2011] Interesting Observation 45 years ago, Kibaki and Michuki were in Cabinet and J. F. Kennedy was running for US Presidency. Obama was 1 year old. 45 years later, Kibaki and Michuki are still in cabinet, and Obama is PRESIDENT-ELECT for the same seat Kennedy was running for. In 45 years, there has been - Johnson, Carter, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Clinton, Bush 1 and Bush 2 in between as presidents of USA. In Kenya the same guys in their 70's and 80's are still trying to tell Kenyans they can make development models that work? Makes u think?? Something is seriously wrong with Kenyan Politcs! Something is wrong with us too in Uganda after 22 years of bananas! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ An unmoderated Ugandan discussion group. Write intelligently, and write responsibly. While contributions to this forum are unmoderated, belittling yourself by posting nonsensical hateful remarks is your own shame and confirms utter stupidity. Kindly focus on initiating and/or contributing to intelligent and constructive discussions on Uganda's social, political, cultural and economic issues. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/str8talk-ug2011?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Origins of Gun politics in a free Uganda
Interesting! There you go folks. However, I think Masaka is just what it is - Masaka, name of a locality in Uganda - and nothing else. The Jews also have a problem with Masaba which they think is a twisted version of Masada - a place where every Israeli goes to swear to die by Masada for Israel. GP _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ocii Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:55 PM To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Cc: VoU VoiceofUganda Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Origins of Gun politics in a free Uganda I am being curious here since it appears massacre occured in"Masaka" then, before the dawn of our independent. My question to Bwana Mitayo is, was the name "Masaka" granted the place after the "masacre", or the word "massacre" as we know in English dictionary rose as a result of the massacre in "Masaka", thereby giving an adulterated word of massacre the name Masaka, of a place in Buganda? Ocii --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Ugnet] Origins of Gun politics in a free Uganda To: "The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda" Received: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 2:15 PM Comrade Yoga Adhola, Thank you for the document: Patriotism and neo-traditionalism in Buganda: the KabakaYekka (The King Alone) Movement, 1961-1962. Journal of African History. I was disappointed that the focus of this text is on the structure and office holders of KY then. My interest was/is to assert the truth that it is Kabaka Yekka that introduced violence into Uganda's body politic, (!961-1962). This document hardly even refers to this aspect. For that matter I have no time to go off in some wild-goose-chase discussing it. It is interesting though that the White man, the British, I.R. Hancock, mentions his interaction with KY Secretary General Masembe-Kabali. May he have been an MI6 like William Pike was in the Luweero triangle? Surely I would not go, for example, to William Pike for a redemptive account of the Luweero Neither to Musevini's cheerleader, Ms Els De Temmerman, of the New Vision, the author of "Aboke Girls", about the sodomy extermination etc of our people in Acholi. They are all mercenaries thriving on our decay, like maggots. You have to note however that throughout, these KY fellows question the 'royalty' to Mengo/(Kabaka) of us in Masaka (Buddu, Mawogola, Kooki, Kabula and Ssese). Note also that at no time did KY conflict with British interests or personnel. Note also the explicit understanding between KY and UPC to destroy/eliminate DP (page 427). The core leadership of KY was King's College Budo Old Boys. (Your Alma mater). The ecxeption being Francis Walugembe. Note also the oblique reference to the stealing of the 1962 elections in Buganda. ( Hon Eriya Kategaya has also asserted that Uganda's Independence election was stollen for UPC by the British. You have seen this claim I am very positive) It is on page 432 that in a William Pike like fashion this Hanock fellow refers to the wanton arson and murder in Masaka as "crude intimidation and clever electioneering" Ronald Muwenda Mutebi, the present Kabaka of Buganda has referred to the late AbuMayanja as a patriot or was it nationalist. A sick joke !! It is interesting that on page 432 Mayanja's main pre-occupation was "to impress Europeans and Asians" So you see Brother Adhola, there is nothing in this document, on the blood and tears of our dear ones in Masaka District in that dark pre-independence period One revelation I was not aware of was that the financing of KY was by some Indian merchants. That is new to me.(page 428) Thanks all the same. Mitayo Potosi == Comrade Ochieno, You want to limit issues to a "free" Uganda? I guess that is, after 9th October 1962. By that yardstick the self rule period under Ben Kiwanuka has no bearing on what has transpired since then. But that is the period of my focus. You are free to give an analysis of another period of your choice. Let us also zero in on specifics and individuals. Donkey years have been wasted on meaningless generalities like: Baganda are bad/conceited/insular or whatever. Acholi are brutal. Batooro are lazy. Banyankole are thieves. Bakiga are the most hardworking and most intelligent people in the world!! As Museveni has always correctly told us: "A stupid people deserve nothing but slavery" !! = On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Hello! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Facts and truths are usually massaged when there are undercurrents of emotions involved. While we advance our interests we also have to see facts and truths squarely in the eye. Only then can we negotiate the future with honor and respect from the other side and, hopefully lead to a peaceful and prosperous co-existence. So, where and how did the gun politics in a "free" Uganda originate? Read the rest at: Origins of Gun Politic
[Ugnet] Basobokwe - Pilot has mid-flight mental breakdown
Basobokwe, your comments please! <http://www.msnbc.msn.com/images/MSNBC/msnbc_ban.gif> MSNBC.com Pilot has mid-flight mental breakdown Air Canada co-pilot's 'belligerent, uncooperative' behavior forces landing The Associated Press updated 4:11 p.m. ET, Wed., Nov. 19, 2008 DUBLIN, Ireland - An Air Canada co-pilot having a mental breakdown had to be forcibly removed from the cockpit, restrained and sedated, and a stewardess with flying experience helped the pilot safely make an emergency landing, an Irish investigation concluded Wednesday. The report by the Irish Air Accident Investigation Unit into an incident in January applauded the decision-making of the pilot and the cockpit skills of the flight attendant, who stepped into the co-pilot's seat for the emergency diversion to Shannon Airport in western Ireland. None of the 146 passengers or other nine crew members on board the Boeing 767 bound from Toronto to London was injured after the 58-year-old co-pilot had to be removed by attendants and sedated by two doctors on board. The report did not identify any of the Air Canada crew by name. Nor did it specify the psychiatric diagnosis for the co-pilot, who was hospitalized for 11 days in Irish mental wards before being flown by air ambulance back to Canada. It said the co-pilot was a licensed veteran with more than 6,500 hours' flying time, about half on board Boeing 767s, and had recently passed a medical examination. But it said the pilot noticed immediately that his co-pilot was not in good professional shape on the day of the flight, arriving late to the cockpit after all the safety checks and paperwork had been completed. He reported that the co-pilot's behavior worsened once they were airborne, and the co-pilot advised him to take a lengthy break for naps and a meal. As the aircraft reached the middle of the Atlantic, the report said, the co-pilot began talking in a "rambling and disjointed" manner, took another nap, and then refused to buckle his seat belt or observe other safety procedures when he returned to the cockpit. The pilot concluded that his colleague was now so "belligerent and uncooperative" that he couldn't do his job. The report said the pilot summoned several flight attendants to remove the co-pilot from the cockpit, and one flight attendant suffered an injured wrist in the struggle. Doctors from Britain and Canada on board determined that the co-pilot was confused and disoriented. The report did not mention how the co-pilot was restrained. Departing passengers at the time said his arms and legs had been tied up to keep him under control. The pilot then asked flight attendants to find out if any passenger was a qualified pilot. When none was found, one stewardess admitted she held a current commercial pilot's license but said her license for reading cockpit instruments had expired. "The flight attendant provided useful assistance to the commander, who remarked in a statement to the investigation that she was `not out of place' while occupying the right-hand seat," the report said. Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27808624/?gt1=43001 MSN Privacy <http://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/privacy.aspx> . Legal <http://mobile.msn.com/device/en-us/terms.aspx> C 2008 MSNBC.com I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <><>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Rwandan presidential aide awaits trial in Paris
Kagame may call this double standards but it is time someone did this to send some cold chill on those dictators and cohots. The problem is that it makes the dictators dig into the grips of power even deeper because, as sitting presidents, it is the only way they can fend off any arrests and travel freely in the EU. Now Rwandese taxpayers will have a very serious bill for her lawyers - millions down the drain. I think the French are doing the right thing and I trust their justice system will acquit her if found innocent. But the process needed to be undertaken. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Oryema Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nyar Nyar'Onyango Subject: [Ugnet] Rwandan presidential aide awaits trial in Paris Rwandan presidential aide awaits trial in Paris Wednesday 19 November 2008 The arrest of Rwandan presidential aide Rose Kabuye on an international warrant issued by France has triggered bitter protests from Kigali. She was extradited from Germany to Paris, where she is awaiting trial. French officials took custody Wednesday of an old comrade-in-arms of Rwanda's president charged over an assassination in the run-up to the 1994 genocide, amid mass anti-European protests in Kigali. Germany extradited Rose Kabuye, a former guerrilla leader who now serves as chief of protocol to President Paul Kagame, ten days after police acting on a French warrant arrested her as she arrived at Frankfurt airport. French officials took charge of her in Frankfurt, and she was flown to Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris aboard an Air France jet. French investigators suspect Kabuye, 47, of involvement in the downing of a plane that killed presidents Juvenal Habyarimana of Rwanda and Cyprien Ntaryamira of Burundi and two French pilots on April 6, 1994. Habyarimana's ethnic Hutu supporters went on the rampage following the attack, slaughtering 800,000 ethnic Tutsi and moderate Hutu men, women and children in an horrific 100-day orgy of bloodletting. French investigators accuse Kagame's Tutsi rebels of attacking the jet, although other observers have speculated that Hutu hardliners killed their own president to serve as a pretext for the subsequent killings. Kabuye was a senior military leader during Kagame's successful war to drive out the genocidal Hutu militias, and the arrest of his trusted lieutenant has cast a fresh chill on already frosty ties with France. Rwanda severed diplomatic relations with Paris in 2006 after a French anti-terrorism judge issued their first arrest warrants over the case. Kagame accuses France of having actively supported the Hutu militias, and the legal dispute has stymied attempts by both governments to re-establish friendly ties 14 years after the massacre. He has accused Europe of persecuting the genocide's survivors instead of hunting its perpetrators, some of whom are said to be living in Europe. Large numbers are also believed to be involved in unrest currently shaking neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo. "It is not only Rose who is in the dock, it is Rwanda that is in the dock," Kagame said on Monday. Her arrest led to three days of demonstrations in Rwanda and on Wednesday tens of thousands of people again took to the streets of Kigali to again vent their anger. Large numbers converged on the German embassy -- Rwanda expelled the German ambassador after Kabuye's arrest -- and the local offices of German broadcaster Deutsche Welle, an AFP correspondent said. "Mrs Kabuye is calm. She's a real fighter. You must know she faced other battles. She spent years in the bush after her family was expelled from Rwanda in the 1950s," Kabuye's lawyer Bernard Maingain told AFP Tuesday. Kigali, however, may soon turn the tables on Paris. Judicial sources there say Rwandan prosecutors could soon issue warrants and indictments against some of the 33 political and military French officials named in a Rwandan report on France's alleged role in the events of 1994. These who could find themselves accused include former prime ministers Alain Juppe and Dominique de Villepin and former foreign minister Hubert Vedrine. Some European investigators fear that Kabuye deliberately delivered herself to German authorities so her lawyers could gain access to the case files prepared against her and other Kagame allies. The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
RE: [Ugnet] HERE IS ANOTEHR ONE
EM, Correct me if I am wrong. Did you say the human sacrifices are to ensure/insure the survival of the kingdom? Thi is getting out of hand but I was equally disturbed b y your assertion that the NRM government is in the know of this heinous act but prefers to shove it under for fear of embrrasment. If I may ask, what does the NRM gain from not getting this out except being accomplice to murder? I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] HERE IS ANOTEHR ONE Ugandans Here is another article of yet another child sacrificed. You be the judge. EM Toronto = Okusaddaakibwa kwa Muguluma kwayabuluza mu maka gaffe <http://newvision.co.ug/news_photos/1226748799woman.jpg> Muguluma eyasaddaakibwa. Bya Robert Mutebi GIWEZE emyaka ebiri bukya Edwin Muguluma eyali ow'emyaka etaano asaddaakibwa. Nnyina, Madiina Nabakooza agamba nti n'okutuusa leero akyamujjira mu birooto so ng'abaamusaddaaka, omusango gwatubira tewali kigenda mu maaso. Omuvubuka Kintu Mapeera yamuwamba mu maka ga bazadde be e Lugala so nga gwe yalumiriza nti ye yamumutuma ye alya butaala. Nnyina (wa Muguluma) agamba nti : Yassaddaakibwa alina emyaka etaano gyokka nga ye mwana wange omukulu gwe nasooka okuzaala era ng'atandise n'okusoma ku Step by Step Nursery & P/s e Lugala. Kati emyaka ebiri naye annemye okuggya ku mwoyo. Eyamusaddaaka simanyi gyali kyokka mpulira nti Dr.Emmanuel Nadomi gwe yalumirizanga okumutuma omwana ye baamwejjeereza dda alya butaala. Kintu Mapeera eyamusaddaaka Poliisi oba kkooti teddangamu kututegeeza bimukwatako wadde ebigenda mu maaso. Muguluma mmuloota buli kiseera, anzijira nnyo nga mmulaba azannya ne banne,oluusi ng'ayoza ebintu oba okumpita nga bwe yakolanga.ekifaananyi ky'omulambo gwe nakyo kiggya mu bwongo bwange buli we mbeera naddala nga mpumuddemu. Omwezi gwa July n'omwaka gwa 2006 sirigwerabira mu bulamu bwange. Okubula n'okufa kw'omwana waffe kwayabuluza mu maka gaffe . Baze omulimu gwaggwaawo n'agenda n'ensi, nze ebyokukola byambula okuggyako okukolaakola ne Ssenga mu Kiyembe.Bizinensi zaafa olwa ssente ennyingi ennyo ze twasaasaanya ku musango guno olwo ne tuddira ddala ku zeero. Gye twali tubeera e Lugala twavaayo ng' abantu be tutategeera batutiisatiisa era eno y'emu ku nsonga eyapaaza baze n'agenda mu nsi okuyiiya. Nazaalayo omwana omulala era kati nnina babiri,omuwala eyali amuddako n'omulenzi omuto. Mu kiseera kino njagala kumanya omusango we gwakoma", Nabakooza bw'agamba. Kyokka okusinziira ku kunoonyereza omusasi ono kwe yakoze, Mapeera yakoma okulabikako mu kkooti ya Mwanga II ku ntandikwa y'omwaka guno era yasindikibwa e Luzira ku limanda gy'agambibwa okuba nga gy'akyali. Published on: Saturday, 15th November, 2008 The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" <<1226748799woman.jpg>>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Re: {UAH} Is there any way Uganda house can be nationalisedagain? (katerega)
What an idiot...!!.
Did this guy finish P7 - let alone pass it...?
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From: Abbey Semuwemba <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: {UAH} Is there any way Uganda house can be nationalised again?
(katerega)
Brother Ahmed,
Is there any way Uganda house can be nationalised again? It is really
hurting that tax payers' money was used to build it but it is not
benefitting the tax payer but a small section of people. By the way, is
there a concrete plan to protect NSSF money after this Temangalo issue?
Abbey.K.Semuwemba
God bless you!
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Mr.Kamugisha, it is true UPC used NSSF money to build Uganda House. Sam
Odaka is in a better position to explain. Even Idi Amin used NSSF money to
complete Uganda House. But by then government had nationalised it. Muwanga
denationalized it in a proclamation if not a decree in 1980 before general
elections. We know these things.
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RE: [Ugnet] 'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birthlocation
Thanks Bwana Charles. It's a real low. Pathetic... I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Xavier Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:40 PM To: Mulindwa Edward; The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Subject: Re: [Ugnet] 'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birthlocation Bwana Mulindwa, Stop posting these kinds of underground media garbage! On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birth location Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see 'usurper' in Oval Office _ Posted: November 14, 2008 8:40 pm Eastern By Bob Unruh C 2008 WorldNetDaily Alan Keyes <http://worldnetdaily.com/images/headshots/Alan_Keyes3.jpg> Alan Keyes The <http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931#> California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 <http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931#> presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate <http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931#> Alan Keyes and others. The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution. WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79900> Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions. The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors. (Story continues below) The governor's office in Hawaii said there is a valid certificate but rejected requests for access and left ambiguous its origin: Does the certificate on file with the Department of Health indicate a Hawaii birth or was it generated after the Obama family registered a Kenyan birth in Hawaii? Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro, has named two different Hawaii hospitals where Obama could have been born, while a video posted on YouTube features Obama's Kenyan grandmother <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FqVRWgrNw&eurl=http://blog.barofintegrity. us/2008/11/01/barack-nate-dhalani.aspx?ref=rss> Sarah claiming to have witnessed Obama's birth in Kenya. The California action was filed by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation <http://www.usjf.net/> on behalf of Alan Keyes, the presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, along with Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson, both California electors. "Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal," the action challenges. <http://worldnetdaily.com/images/misc/debra_bowen1.gif> California Secretary of State Debra Bowen The petition is a request for the Superior Court of California in Sacramento County to issue a peremptory writ barring Secretary of State Debra Bowen "from both certifying to the governor the names of the California Electors, and from transmitting to each <http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931#> presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until such documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a 'natural born' citizen of the United States and does not hold <http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931#> citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain." It continues with a request for a writ barring California's electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until documentary proof is produced. An Obama spokesperson interviewed by WND described such lawsuits <http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80928> as "garbage." The popular vote Nov. 4 favored Obama over Sen. John McCain by several percentage points. But because of the distribution of the votes, Ob
[Ugnet] RE: [Str8talk-2011] RE: "Mombasa Imam who confirmed Obama's birth place arrives in the UK
Why bother OJ, These are people who aren't even satisfied or convinced by their own conscience, continuously disgruntled irrespective of any government. party or leader. Simply stated: they hate themselves for not realizing their utopian wants. Problem is that they don't seem to find truth even where truth visibly exists to an infants eyes - however foggy. You have to dislike yourself to dislike everyone and everything anyone, someone believes in. When one's presentations are one-dimensional, the twisted fact holds firm in his/her mind and they become self-enslaved to that Buggs Bunny 1-D and view of the world around - wrongly believing they are always correct; pathetically seeking attention thru. frozen opinion and always winning in their opinion but delivering nothing, zip, nada - even when facts show they are losers seeking self-consolation from the value of zero because they seek to make the number zero on its own, extant. In doing so, such people place themselves in the zero position but still want people to believe they exist or matter or have the ability to effect change yet in actual fact they do not exist because they have become significantly unquantifiable, ineffective and do not matter at all. Anything unquantifiable has no value; anything unquantifiable has no effect - they are nonentities in all forms and below the status of being dormant or inactive. In fact they are the living dead who believe they matter and yet they have ceased to be matter in both form and content. If anyone, someone still thinks a unfounded opinion of Obama can effect immediate change to eject him from achieving the obvious, I advise the person to contact me on how to tie a noose better that Sadam's. It will kill them twice just to convince them they are truly gone and, henceforth, irrelevant. I gotta go... I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oryema Johnson Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:21 PM To: m e; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Str8talk-2011] RE: "Mombasa Imam who confirmed Obama's birth place arrives in the UK EM, what beef does the Mulindwa Communication have with Obama? Secondly, what is the communications objective? It rather puzzles me sometime, because most of the time it comes out as anti-establishment or to be specific anti-progress/change..It backed Kibaki during the Kenyan turmoil to the very end, it backed Mugabe during the Zimbabwe election disaster to the very end..it opposed Obama from the very beginning to the very end...I did come across as if I was opposing Obama, but mine was more along the line of doubting whether White America was ready to accept a Black person as its President..I had given Obama 70% Chance of winning the Primary and roughly 65% Chance of winning the Presidency, but I remained a Republican and still I am and will be so tomorrow...but I am not going to join the Imam kind of folks who sound more like mad people than anything else in questioning Obama's birth place..I do not really care whether the man was born under a tree in Kisumu or on a snowmobile in Hawaii, he beat the "Shit" out of his opponents, won the election clean and sqaure and will be occupying the White House in January 2009 as the President of the United States...If you recall, this is the only election whose outcome was never questioned and did not take weeks for results to be announced as the one of 2000..Even the last one between Bush and Kerry was announced in the morning of the following day, while this one, by Midnight of november 4th 2008, Obama was declared the winner.Wait and judge the man on his performance once he is in change of the United states next year.. And this Imam, who is kissing butts in the UK on the claim that he has Obama's birth certificate under the name of Hussain, which birth certificates did the british show Kenyans as proof that they were born in the country and had the right to colonize and rule it for decades...What birth certificates did Americans show native Indians in America that they were born in the country before they began terrorizing and chasing them off their lands at the beginning of their occupation of the continent?? OJ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: "Mombasa Imam who confirmed Obama's birth place arrives in the UK Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:25:58 -0500 "Mombasa Imam who confirmed Obama's birth place arrives in the UK AfricanPress International November 9, 2008 T
[Ugnet] Done...
Always, in-laws first. It's the winning way for a potential wifey... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zKCQX-U-dg <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zKCQX-U-dg&feature=related> &feature=related I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] It pays to avoid a speeding ticket -- or fight one
y or your make of car, you may to get your ticket dismissed, says Skrum. It's often best to keep mum about the gaffe until you go to court, however, and reveal the mistake after the officer has recounted the wrong information. * An 'A' for effort. If you do get all the way to a magistrate or traffic commissioner, any reasonable objection you have to the ticket is likely to at least reduce the amount of the fine, and perhaps change it to an infraction that won't hurt your rates. "You've got to fight every ticket, because the only thing anyone will ever know is what you reduced it to. The accusation will be lost in the courthouse," says Raskob. The above, "soft" approach often works, but some people prefer to aggressively contest the ticket, which they usually do with at least some success. When Michael Pelletier, a 32-year-old computer systems engineer in the Bay Area, got a ticket a few years ago, he rented the nine-pound (!) legal defense kit from the National Motorists Association. (The rental cost of the packet, which is tailored to the requester's state, is $50 per month, with a discount for NMA members.) "The only thing I did was crank the legal crank," says Pelletier. That meant asking for continuances and requesting records -- proof of when the officer's radar gun was last calibrated and when the officer was trained in its use -- in hopes of finding a flaw in the authorities' case, or simply wearing them down until they offered a deal. A pre-emptive strike Battling in court can be time-consuming and complicated. Pelletier estimates he invested nearly 50 hours in the year 2000 to fight his ticket, which he received driving his motorcycle 47 miles an hour in a 25 mph zone. He got it dismissed seven months later based on an esoteric legal definition of a "local street or road." In Pelletier's eyes, the struggles are worthwhile despite the time commitment. He has also helped his wife and brother keep three citations from their records, and his insurance company recently upgraded him to a "superior" driver, which means he will pay $70 less in the next six months than he had been paying. And by keeping his driving record clean he's ensured that his next ticket -- if it sticks -- won't hurt him so much as it might have. If you don't have the time to do all of this research, consider hiring an attorney who frequently deals with speeding tickets. Such an attorney will know how to get the best deal for you and can often appear in court for you, so you don't have to take a day off to do so. Fees can vary from $75 to $750, in part depending on whether they're already frequently in the courthouse dealing with such matters. The free piece of advice they give, however, is the same: Confront your speeding ticket, even if it's your first, and do your darnedest to make it disappear. After all, they add, you never know when you'll get your next one, with higher premiums close behind. Christopher Solomon is a free-lance writer in Seattle. A former reporter for the Seattle Times, he writes regularly for the New York Times, and has written for Outside magazine, Ski and Skiing magazines and Men's Journal. His work will appear in 2006 Best American Travel Writing. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] Re: Right on the Money, from Radio Katwe
Ocii, Acholi died en masse in the last DRC invasion. They comprised the bulk of Uganda's occupation force and was why they were airlifted back to Gulu and no other base where undoudtedly the obviously expected Ebola exploded to finsih the unfinished in DRC. The same happened in Obote 2's war in Luwero and we all know it was the reason Bazilio querried why more bodies were ferried to Acholi from Luwero than to Lango. The rest, as we know what followed, is history. This time, Acholi must refuse to fight the next DRC invasion on moral grounds or Acholi must rebel openly/officially/formally. NRM recruitment grounds for expendable souls is Acholi. En pud wu-kweko ngwinywu ata ni yaka calo tee koga-ni, kong wu-kur lakaba-kaba me yoro Acholi ka-lweny me dil-lo lonyo Congo i-peke pa opii ma olony ki mon Acholi. Yang ki-wero i slow match ni "Opii ma awilo awial lony ki mon?" Opii ma awilo awila balo gang wa". en kitte weng dong enu. Alokko enu. "Ajwaka opoto ki pyen!" I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ocii Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:49 PM To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Cc: VoU VoiceofUganda Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Re: Right on the Money, from Radio Katwe "Dear readers, if it true that our people are clandestinely being recruited to back up Nkunda then there are more tears and blood to be shed. But Ugandans why is it the poor man's sons to fight the rich man's war; why is the poor man to protect the rich man and his wealth? Ugandan, why is it the innocent to guard the criminals? Why is it the hungry to guard the pot-belly? Enough is enough! May be we need anarchy so that everyone is for himself like in Somalia where no one is above others for exploitative purpose." No quoting me on this one but it appears there are assassins among those recruits to eliminate Nkunda. That is why the guy is hold up on top of the mountain. But once these assassins took out his officers one by one, he will have no option but to climb down. This could just be mere rumours. --- On Thu, 11/6/08, Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Right on the Money, from Radio Katwe To: "The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda" Received: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 5:56 PM My take is that there are two groupings. One: The Bill Clinton's group with a faction of the British establishment - the Lynda Chalker, Executive Outcomes etc... who, I fear are morphing into the Obama camp (with local allies Kagame, Museveni, Nkunda) They have their eyes on the oil/minerals in Darfur. The Holocaust museum has affiliats funding 'rebels' in Darfur. (What Jewry are David Axelrod, David Plouffe ?. We shall soon learn learn) Two: The neocons who have grabbed the Iraq oilfields, had their eyes on the Georgia Oil corridor. Never wanted to deliver Darfur to camp number One. GW Bush derisively talks of 'Darfur activists' . My feelings are that what you saw in Kinshahas is camp number Two. At the end of the day we find that Africa was better off under Bush. i.e. camp Two (more occupied with far places) The fellows who are coming with Obama are hungry. They missed the looting of Iraq. And they intend to gouge themselves on Africa. Museveni's position has never been better. Some Ugandans are hoping that he will have a hard time under Obama. I predict the opposite. This is how I see the situation. Could be wrong. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Right on the Money. >From Radio Katwe. Imperialism, Multi National Corporations, and the UN are all Behind Nkunda In fact Nkunda is just a mask. It is American drones that are killing Congo's soldiers whose bodies you see littering all the roads. RK Readers, The war in DRC is the continuation of the 1998-2002 conflict. It is being tactifully done in phases. The Americans and Britain are hell bent to snatch DRC from the Francophone and make it an Anglo American colony. As soon as the hell broke loose last week, the British and American Diplomats were already in the vicinity; and ceasefire was declared in order to enter direct talk with Kinsasha. Joseph Kabila and all Congolese, for your information, DRC is gone unless you fight to the last man. It is high time you abondon the stupidity of just dancing ndobolo when your country is going to the dogs. Unless you drive the Banyarwanda (Banyamulenga) back to where they come from (Rwanda) you will become slaves in your own country after losing everything under the g
[Ugnet] FW: [Str8talk-2011] Women are surely weapons of mass destruction
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[Ugnet] Re: KENYANS PREDICT - FUN GAME AS WE WAIT
"It is finished" said Jesus. Whatever the dark-hearted wanted, the presidency has been declared by the majority, irreversible. My hang-over is killing me and it was a rawdy night in my basement. I want to believe that there are a few known anti-Obamians hanging on the noose in their houses now or on the maple tree at the public park. To them I say "good ridance". Obama, son of Labongo, nephew of Gipir, great grandson of Olum has done it for all of us because "The style is the man himself" Le style est l'homme même said George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon. To all yee Luos from Shilluk in the heart of Sudan to Joluo in Tanzania, Never <http://thinkexist.com/quotation/never_think_that_god-s_delays_are_god-s_den ials/207852.html> think that God's delays are God's denials. Hold on; hold fast; hold out. Patience is genius. said Count de Buffon. As for me, I say even a small dog can piss on the Queen's feet. Diyummmnn...! 8 years - and just beginning - Luo will be pissing on the world. Folks, don't look up. I hope Kaguta was first to send in his congratulatory message as he did to Kibaki. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dr. Valentine Ojo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] Re: [Mwananchi] Re: KENYANS PREDICT - FUN GAME AS WE WAIT Chifu Wa MAlindi This is not a time to celebrate it is a time to look very carefully at what investor pulls his company out of here, because no investor is going to wait with his money to be redistributed. We have just created millions and million of jobs to the Chinese, the Mexicans, and all nations with a senile economical plan. So as you drink that champagne and eat the last pork chop wonder what will happen after that investor moves on. Just a brotherly caution. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Chifu <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:12 AM Subject: [Mwananchi] Re: KENYANS PREDICT - FUN GAME AS WE WAIT Ndugu Robert They were just showing a clip of Kogelo, Kenya. It is time to celebrate. Chifu --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ps.com, "Robert Alai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chifu > > AN ITS OFFICIAL HOLIDA IN KENYA. > > We are moving to Kisumu to celebrate > > Robert > > On 11/5/08, Chifu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ndugu Robert > > > > It is coming down to 338 for Obama and 155 McCain according to the > > CNN poll I am watching right now and some states still have to > > report. I am waiting for his speech (I even not going to work > > tomorrow). > > > > Chifu > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Mwananchi%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com , "Robert > > Alai" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/4/08, Ben R. Sendeyo wrote: > > > > > > > > Just a little game during the voting process: > > > > > > > > PREDICTION > > > > > > > > *Name Electoral > > College Votes* > > > > > > > > 1. Ben Sendeiyo --330 Obama > > > > > > > > 2.Robert Alai ---298 Obama > > > > > > > > 3. > > > > > > > > 4. > > > > > > > > 5. > > > > 6. > > > > 7. > > > > 8. > > > > 9. > > > > 10. > > > > 11. > > > > 12. > > > > 13. > > > > 14. > > > > 15. > > > > 16. > > > > 17. > > > > 18. > > > > 19. > > > > 20. > > > > 21. > > > > 22. > > > > 23. > > > > 24. > > > > 25. > > > > etc > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > "Anyone can be a genius, if they pick just one specific subject > > and study > > > > it diligently j
RE: [Ugnet] Re: [Mwananchi] Re: KENYANS PREDICT - FUN GAME AS WE WAIT
"It is finished" said Jesus. Whatever the dark-hearted wanted, the presidency has been declared by the majority, irreversible. My hang-over is killing me and it was a rawdy night in my basement. I want to believe that there are a few known anti-Obamians hanging on the noose in their houses now or on the maple tree at the public park. To them I say "good ridance". Obama, son of Labongo, nephew of Gipir, great grandson of Olum has done it for all of us because "The style is the man himself" Le style est l'homme même said George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon. To all yee Luos from Shilluk in the heart of Sudan to Joluo in Tanzania, Never <http://thinkexist.com/quotation/never_think_that_god-s_delays_are_god-s_den ials/207852.html> think that God's delays are God's denials. Hold on; hold fast; hold out. Patience is genius. said Count de Buffon. As for me, I say even a small dog can piss on the Queen's feet. Diyummmnn...! 8 years - and just beginning - Luo will be pissing on the world. Folks, don't look up. I hope Kaguta was first to send in his congratulatory message as he did to Kibaki. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dr. Valentine Ojo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] Re: [Mwananchi] Re: KENYANS PREDICT - FUN GAME AS WE WAIT Chifu Wa MAlindi This is not a time to celebrate it is a time to look very carefully at what investor pulls his company out of here, because no investor is going to wait with his money to be redistributed. We have just created millions and million of jobs to the Chinese, the Mexicans, and all nations with a senile economical plan. So as you drink that champagne and eat the last pork chop wonder what will happen after that investor moves on. Just a brotherly caution. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Chifu <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:12 AM Subject: [Mwananchi] Re: KENYANS PREDICT - FUN GAME AS WE WAIT Ndugu Robert They were just showing a clip of Kogelo, Kenya. It is time to celebrate. Chifu --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ps.com, "Robert Alai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chifu > > AN ITS OFFICIAL HOLIDA IN KENYA. > > We are moving to Kisumu to celebrate > > Robert > > On 11/5/08, Chifu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ndugu Robert > > > > It is coming down to 338 for Obama and 155 McCain according to the > > CNN poll I am watching right now and some states still have to > > report. I am waiting for his speech (I even not going to work > > tomorrow). > > > > Chifu > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Mwananchi%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com , "Robert > > Alai" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/4/08, Ben R. Sendeyo wrote: > > > > > > > > Just a little game during the voting process: > > > > > > > > PREDICTION > > > > > > > > *Name Electoral > > College Votes* > > > > > > > > 1. Ben Sendeiyo --330 Obama > > > > > > > > 2.Robert Alai ---298 Obama > > > > > > > > 3. > > > > > > > > 4. > > > > > > > > 5. > > > > 6. > > > > 7. > > > > 8. > > > > 9. > > > > 10. > > > > 11. > > > > 12. > > > > 13. > > > > 14. > > > > 15. > > > > 16. > > > > 17. > > > > 18. > > > > 19. > > > > 20. > > > > 21. > > > > 22. > > > > 23. > > > > 24. > > > > 25. > > > > etc > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > > > "Anyone can be a genius, if they pick just one specific subject > > and study > > > > it diligently j
[Ugnet] FW: [Str8talk-2011] LIES DONT WORK NO MORE....WHY BARACK OBAMA WILL WIN BIG!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steely Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:42 AM To: Str8talk-UG2011 Subject: [Str8talk-2011] LIES DONT WORK NO MOREWHY BARACK OBAMA WILL WIN BIG! Daily KOS by Bill in Maine A great list of all the lies, slander and nonsense they said about Barackit hasn't worked this time! Folks, dont listen to no more predictions about how an Obama presidency will not be good for the US/ the World/Africa! It's all hogwash, not worth the ink it is written withGOBAMA!! They said his name's too foreign and exotic. It isn't. They said he's too young. He isn't. They said he's a scary Muslim terrorist. He isn't. They said he was sworn in on the Koran. He wasn't. They said he's not a Christian. He is. They said he's too distant and aloof. He isn't. They said his birth certificate's fake. It isn't. They said his "present" votes in the Illinois Senate prove he was a waffler. They don't. They said he didn't sponsor any meaningful legislation in the U.S. Senate. He did. They said his wife's a liability to the campaign. She isn't. They said Reverend Wright would destroy his campaign. He didn't. They said Tony Rezko would destroy his campaign. He didn't. They said not wearing a flag pin 24/7 would destroy his campaign. It didn't. They said he couldn't "close the deal" and win the Democratic nomination. He did. They said that if he won the nomination the Democratic convention would be a repeat of the violent 1968 convention. It wasn't. They said he'd never get angry Clinton voters to enthusiastically support him. He did. They said his overseas trip would prove he was inexperienced and un- presidential. It didn't. They said he was losing Latino and Jewish voters. He wasn't. They said he didn't have specific plans for the economy, health care, Iraq and terrorism. He does. They said funding his campaign through mostly small-dollar donors was a mistake. It wasn't. They said he wasn't being truthful about his past. He was. They said the nomination of Sarah Palin would knock his campaign off its stride. It didn't. They said he wouldn't win the first debate because it was on foreign policy. He did. They said he wouldn't win the second debate because it was a town hall format. He did. They said he wouldn't win the third debate because McCain was going on the attack. He did. They said he doesn't understand the concerns of average Americans. He does. They said all the negative campaign ads being thrown at him would work. They didn't. They said he didn't have the guts to fight back against the smears. He did. They said the election results would be tight as a tickLETS WAIT AND SEE .. Vote Barack Obama! Steely --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ An unmoderated Ugandan discussion group. Write intelligently, and write responsibly. While contributions to this forum are unmoderated, belittling yourself by posting nonsensical hateful remarks is your own shame and confirms utter stupidity. Kindly focus on initiating and/or contributing to intelligent and constructive discussions on Uganda's social, political, cultural and economic issues. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/str8talk-ug2011?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] an Elephantine election
Isn't the Elephant the symbol of the Republican party and the Ass (aka Donkey) for the Democrtas? Look who has crossed the line... http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/01/1625384.aspx I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
RE: [Ugnet] WHO WILL UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION?
EM, I like responding to materials whose sources are referenced. Since you withheld the source to this article and let it appear as though a publication of The Mulindwas Communication Group, kindly forward my comments to the author: "A whole load of steamy BS." I gotta stock my supplies for a one-week's celebrations with nephew of Gipir, son of Labongo, great son of Olum. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulindwa Edward Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 4:06 PM To: ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] WHO WILL UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION? A President Who Won't Uphold the Constitution? Never. Laura Hollis Wednesday, October 29, 2008 Well, now we know why Barack Obama's been so reluctant to have symbols of this country associated with his campaign. No flags on his airplane. Nix to pins on his lapel. Not inclined to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem. After all, it turns out he has a problem with that other slightly more significant representation of our nation, the United States Constitution. Just as he tried to prove to everyone that his patriotism was demonstrated by the lack of symbols of the United States, so he is now arguing that his passion for the Constitution is demonstrated by his commitment to shredding it. The Drudge Report and other legitimate investigative sources like the National Review, have exposed the most damning evidence yet of Barack Obama's utter disregard for the core principles of the United States government. In a radio interview given in 2001, Obama reveals yet again about what he means by 'equality,' when he says, ".the Supreme Court never entered into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society." Bad? Sure. Because now it's not just "spread the wealth" a little bit (antithetical as that already is to American notions of hard work and prosperity). It's that "redistribution of wealth" is part and parcel of Obama's vision of what is "political and economic justice" in this society. But it is much worse. Because this Harvard-educated lawyer then announces that the United States Supreme Court when headed by Chief Justice Earl Warren, was "not radical enough," in its pursuit of civil liberties, because "[i]t didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution." If this has not stopped you dead in your tracks, either you don't understand, or you're already dead. What Obama is doing here is expressing his opinion that the Court would have better effectuated his definition of "political and economic justice" if it had been willing to ignore the limits placed upon it by the Constitution. I have written elsewhere of Obama's potential designs on the country, and his inclinations should he obtain the power he seeks. Many of the hypotheticals I posited then were pooh-poohed by readers, who said, in essence, "He'd never do that; the Constitution prevents it." At this point, any belief in Obama's respect for constitutional limits is delusional. If he is so cavalier about the Constitution's limits upon the power of the judiciary, why on earth would he respect the limits on the power of the Presidency? Or on Congress? Clamor for the reinstatement of the insidiously named "Fairness Doctrine" has already put the First Amendment in Obama's sights. What would be sacrosanct about the Second? Or the Fourth? Or Fifth? Or Eighth? Why would Obama let any constitutional limit stand in the way of what he views as "political and economic justice"? These views are why Obama's acquaintances, associates and allies matter. Why his Alinskyite "by any means necessary" philosophy matters. Why we should care that he funds and takes money from people who say they hate or wish to undermine America. Why we should be concerned when he took spiritual sustenance from a man who spends much of his time condemning white people. This is what drives Barack Obama. And this is why he wants the Presidency. The rest of Obama's observations during this interview are just as asinine, and just as threatening. He says, "generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties: [It] says what the states can't do to you, says what the fede
RE: [Ugnet] AN OPEN LETTER TO BARACK OBAMA
Charles, It's even more absurd that a presumably 'informed' person would knowingly re-post the obvious lies for the consumption of, unfortunately, higly informed and learned Ugandans. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Xavier Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:38 AM To: Mulindwa Edward; The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Subject: Re: [Ugnet] AN OPEN LETTER TO BARACK OBAMA I think anyone with a little IQ should stop reading after point 9. Senator Obama was born in Hawaii. Does anyone dispute that fact? On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An Open Letter to Barack Obama By John Wallace New York Campaign for Liberty 11-2-8 I know you are busy running for President of the greatest country in the world, but there are a couple of things about your background and qualifications for the office that concern me and many of my fellow Americans. Never before has a Presidential candidate failed to fully disclose routine information about their background that might help the voters make an informed choice in an election. It seems that many records concerning your background have either be been sealed or are temporarily unavailable for review. I know that any honest person like yourself, who is running for the highest office in the land, would never overtly want to keep such information from public review. Here's a partial list: 1. Occidental College records -- Not released 2. Columbia College records -- Not released 3. Columbia Thesis paper -- Not available, locked down by faculty 4. Harvard College records -- Not released, locked down by faculty 5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released 6. Medical records -- Not released 7. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released (sealed?) 8. Certified Copy of Certification of Live Birth -- Not released (sealed?) 9. Birth records from Kenya -- (Sealed by the government of Kenya until after Election Day) 10. Your record of Christian Baptism -- Not released or unavailable 11. Illinois State Senate schedule - 'Not available' 12. Illinois State Senate records - Destroyed I believe items #7,8 and 9 are the most critical and concern two issues that are very important to the American people: 1. Are Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.? and 2. Are you legally qualified to hold the Office of President? In a recent federal court case in Pennsylvania, an American citizen, Philip Berg, filed a lawsuit claiming you were not a natural born citizen of the United States and therefore not qualified to be President. During that case, you never denied Mr. Berg's claims, but neither did you provid a valid birth certificate or other proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States and therefore qualified under the Constitution to be President. Rather, you hid behind technicalities in the law to avoid the issue and the federal judge hearing the case dismissed Mr. Berg's lawsuit stating that Mr. Berg, acting as a "citizen," did not have legal standing to make such a challenge. This is a prime example of another outrageous decision by a federal judge to deny the American people their rights clearly outlined in the constitution. There have been lawsuits filed, or currently being filed, in 7 or 8 states with various state Boards of Elections, claiming you are ineligible to be on their ballots because you have not produced proof that you are a natural born citizen of the United States. Mr. Obama, if you are truly and honorable man and a "Natural Born Citizen of the United States" you can clear up this issue very quickly. Just produce a certified copy of your birth certificate in any one of the names you have been know by (Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham and Barry Dunham). Your avoidance of the issue and your subsequent failure to prove you are a "Natural Born Citizen of the United States" is very suspicious and raises a very important constitutional issue that must be addressed before the November 4th election. Stop using legal technicalities, record sealing and courtroom maneuvers to avoid the issue. The American people have every constitutional right to know and they will eventually find out. Try using honesty and truthfulness for a change and put this issue to rest. Either prove that you are a "Natural Born Citizen of the U.S." and are legally qualified to hold the Office of President, or withdraw the race. If you do not do one of the other, the American people, regardless of party affiliation, will surely stand up and kick you out. John W
[Ugnet] About That Prank Call...
About That Prank Call... Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:03 PM By Holly Bailey You've probably heard by now that Sarah Palin this week was unwittingly duped into taking a phone call from a guy claiming to be French <http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/11/02/palin_takes_pr ank_call_from_fake_french_president/> President Nicolas Sarkozy when in fact it was really a Canadian comedian well known for pulling pranks on celebrities and other well-known politicos. So how exactly did that happen? According to a senior McCain aide, the caller made initial contact with Palin's advisers by first calling the governor's office in Alaska. The call had been routed through France, and the comedian used the name of one of Sarkozy's top aides, which suggested the phone call was legitimate. "He did all the right things," this aide insists. The message was passed on by Palin's aides back in Alaska to the McCain campaign and was ultimately routed up the food chain, ending up in the hands of Steve Biegun, a former National Security adviser to President Bush, who is now one of Palin's top aides. Seeing no warning signs, Biegun and other top McCain aides signed-off on the call, and the rest is history. Privately, McCain aides see the phone call as more of an embarrassment for the staff than for Palin-after all, it's up to the staff who gets to talk to the candidates and who doesn't. But that may be lost on voters who already have doubts about Palin's experience and readiness for the office. Advertisement UPDATE, 4 PM EST: A second senior McCain aide clarifies what exactly the campaign knew about the call. According to this aide, none of McCain's top staffers were aware of the call between Palin and the fake Sarkozy until after the fact. The call was routed from Palin's Alaska office directly to the advisers working directly with the GOP VP hopeful, and they made the decision to initiate contact without notifying other members of McCain's senior staff. Upon word of the fake-out, the campaign's upper echelon organized a conference call yesterday afternoon with both McCain and Palin senior aides to discuss how to handle. According to one participant, who declined to be named, aides went back and forth venting their frustration. "Does anyone not think it's strange that the French president would want to talk to a candidate in the final 72 hours of the campaign," one senior McCain aide demanded, noting that the White House and the National Security Council would likely be involved in any such phone calls. "It's appalling." Bigger picture, the episode provides a glimpse at what have been increased tensions between the McCain plane and the Palin plane in the final weeks of the campaign. Aides have pushed back in recent days against stories that all is not well between the two camps, but it appears that may not be exactly true. I am Peter-Rhaina Gwokto and I approve this message. _ Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building" Jim Hightower http://lakitgum.wordpress.com <http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/> <>___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Re: first prove if mutebi is not an acholi before questioning museveni's citizenship(Tom Jabwe)
Which reminds me: during the Capt. Dan Byakutagga paymaster scandal, a good Ganda buddy made fun at calling me Gwokutaga. Not until recently did I remember that Bantu schoolmates in Mwiri could not pronounce Gwokto without inserting 'u' between k and t such that it became Gwokuto. Dayimnnn...! that sounded grouse. However, I still have trouble understanding or accepting the significance of Ganda names beginning with 'Ss' like Ssemogere. I have listened carefully over the years and believe me, there is no silent 's' in these names as to warrant the abuse and misplacement of a secondary 's'. If there is a Ugandan language that warrants the use of silent letters like in French, it's got to be Lugisu and, to some extent, Runyakitoro. Which remainds me again: once when my two Ganda nephews went to visit their grandmother up north, they discovered plenty stuff they never saw in the city. Each time one of the two recognized something new, he would exclaimed to the other 'laba yo..!" - which I understood later to mean 'look at that...! or look at this..! It took my caring mother by surprise. First, the old woman thought these city kids had pronunciation problems with the Acholi word 'lebba' meaning' my tongue. Then another time, it just hit her that the boys could be allergic to something that was hurting their tongues and crying 'lebba yo..!' meaning, 'oh..! my tongue..!'. The moral of the story is that words in Acholi or Bantu are reegineered from one another - wonder why anthropologists haven't looked deep into this fact. Whish reminds me once more: Did you know that the names Luwero and Namugona (a river in the Buganda) are not only Acholi names but were named by Acholis? Kololo is not the only gandanized Acholi expression. Listen to this recent confirmation: When Emin Pasha employed the service of Nubian fighters, most of the commanders were Acholis who new the Buganda/Bunyoro region. During the disciplinary war on Buganda, the Acholi commanders instructed the marcenaries to 'slash' down everything living thing in their paths. Now, if you know Acholi, the word for slashing down is 'lwero' (scorch 'n burn). You can only imagine these commanders telling excited Nubian fighters to 'lwero' everything. Anyway, during the operation the soldiers marched up to a river they couldn't cross. The operation commander reported 'mission accomplished' to Lugard then added that he could have gone on with the special ops were it not for a large body of water that prevented him from marching further. In Acholi he said, 'nam ungona' meaning, the lake barred me'. Nam is a lake or large river in Acholi. Ungona or ongona is to seclude, bar, prevent or inhibit. Oh bwoy..! this also means, the early 80's witnessed not the first but second visit by Acholis to Luwero. Actually, the academic vocab is 'Revisited', a slang for 'just checking out'. The surviving Baganda screwed up these two names. First, as in Gwokuto above, they inserted a 'u' in Luwero thus distorting the original Acholi word 'lwero'. Second, they unceremoniusly glued Nam and Ungona to Namungona. Here is the proof: Ask any Muganda elder the origin and meaning of the words Kololo, Luwero and Namungona and you will be surprised they know and have nothing to the effect. Ah rah rah rah... I love Uganda and all Ugandans. I couldn't trade any of my countrymen and women for any precious metal or black gold. I love you all guys. We have a common history and shared language. Just dig deeper. Lot's on interesting stuff in our roots. Uhm...! Human behaviour. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: kyasa Kyasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 8, 2008 5:33:08 PM Subject: Re: first prove if mutebi is not an acholi before questioning museveni's citizenship(Tom Jabwe) Jabwe 1. Whjat is the meaning of the name " Akandanwaho", the name of Salim Saleh? Isnt it named to a first son? Akandanwaho is the first son of Kaguta and he is younger to Mu7. What does that imply? 2. Who else are the brothers and sister + off sprinds of of Kaguta and his wife? Give us 2 or 3 generations back. I bet you will find them in Rwanda, Burundi and Northen TZ. They were given lots of money to keep silent. Schools were built for them in northern TZ using State house funds as reported in recent news\paliament questioings. Yet, kids in the north and very many other rural areas in Buganda, Eastern are studying under the tree shades! Sahme on you. Kakubampanga -
[Ugnet] Re: Information Kateregga - NOC, Kateregga, et al.
Folks, You failed to notice - or maybe simply don't know - that in Acholi the first letter of the word *ubanga identifies which christian denomination one follows. Acholi Catholics called God Rubanga while Protestants call him Lubanga even in their hymns. This is a fact anyone can prove. For the Langi Catholics or Protestants, Obanga applies to all. Lubanga or Rubanga is not an Acholi word. Secondly, my grandfather's friend once told us that Lubanga/Rubanga, while frequently applied to the heavenly father has two connotations in Acholi but with one shared feature - mystery. The mystery surrounds both the feared unknown and the ugly unknown. Before Christianity overpowered the traditional beliefs of the land, Jok (spirit) was used to identify both the bad and good supernatural being with both living in the same shared Body. Crossing its path depended on which side an unfolding event fell. In fact it was the true Ying-Yang as the Chinese refer to spirits. Here is the twist: I was also informed by the old man that when Christianity appeared, it coincided whith the first case of the Huncback in Acholi. This was a new mystery. To date, the name for the hunchback deformity in Acholi is Lubanga. And for some reason it is not referred to as Rubanga but Lubanga. In Acholi, all physical deformities wereand are still considered the undoings of the spirits because there werent any obvious or known causes of deformities. A true Acholi elder will call any deformity Lubanga - which has essentially changed the prior reference to unexplained occurances from Jok to Lubanga. The emergence of the God known as Rubanga/Lubanga added a third but lessor body to the traditional Jok who used to be good or bad but the same in body. Jok in Acholi today still refers to the all-powerful spirita with the good jok living in one full half while the other half is now shared unproportionally by the bad spirit and the mysterious Lubanga wherein the dad spirit lives in more than two-thirds of that half. It simply means that, inside Acholi Jok, goodness prevails. It also means that the Acholi Jok has the same embodiment of the Holy Trinity with Jok in three Persons (the Good spirit, the Bad spirit and Lubanga like Christianity's God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Ghost). However, while Christianity three God's live in harmony and agreement, the Acholi Jok can't even see eye to eye and they all serve completely different pruposes even though they exist in the same person (Jok): good things from the Jok Maber (Good spirit), bad things from Jok Marac (Bad spirit) and punishment from Lubanga (the lessor unknown) mainly through deformities like huncback, polio, blindness, deafness, etc. Lubanga does not cause sickness/illness except painless irreversible deformities. ___________ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2008 4:31:10 PM Subject: RE: Information Kateregga Sure Gook,. I will do that. Hopefully it won’t be so difficult since some of the first Acholi CMS Chritians were my family line. The first white men might have come from the North. Gordon. But he did not bring Christianity. Gordon himself later converted to Islam and became Ibn Pasha (Imil Pashsa?). The CMS came from the South. That is what the Clergy thought us. Otherwise what is the Sudanese word for God? The administration on the other hand was from the North. Also there, I am in the line of the first colonial clerks and messengers. Thus my name Laduma. (LADUMWA=our spokesman). The name my great grand father got because he was the first to learn the language and became a translator. But I will do as you say and forward it to some elders. My hypotes(regarding foreign domination) is that Acholi's (Lamogi rebellion) resistance to the colonisers, which might actually have been a mistake, impacted the distrust. The Kingdom of Payira was relegated to Chieftaincy. The adminstration that eventually settled at Gulu were firt based at Nimule. They followed along. But I doubt if the CMS was among. They were Nubians. Why I say it was a mistake is, as the saying goes, Acholi had just driven out the Arab slave raiders Northwards when the British came hurtling in from the South. At the time, the light Arab complex was hazardous. The warriors thought the same bloody Arabs that they had just driven out Northward, turned around and now attacked from the south. In a flash, they poured fire!! Kumbe the new arrivals from the south had not come to attack. So the rebellion could have been a mistake. Mot paco Noc'l > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:56:57 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Information Kat
[Ugnet] the controversy
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/rough/2007/07/flwrc52.html ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Happy chimp - sorry, champ
4.NEVER sleep with your ex. These are my golden rules. They don’t guarantee happiness, but they are a good way to avoid misery, in my experience. 1. Decide what your value system is and stick to it. 2. Don’t waste your time on people who bring you down. 3. Choose your battles, and fight to the death 5. Be your own best friend. Details click: http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/lakitgums-five-golden-rules-to-live-by Uhm ..! Human Behavior ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors
To Those Who Think, To Those Who Dare, To Those Who Do, To Those Who Succeed. Success is nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity. Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors is a book written under the pseudonym Rex Feral (King of the Beasts) and published by Paladin Press in 1983. The book portrays itself as a how-to manual on starting a career as a hit man, fulfilling contracts. Existing copies at Paladin Press were destroyed after the book was found to be used as a guide during a triple murder in 1993. Click to read more..___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Singe (in Kiswahilli)
Recommend this video to all Ugandan soldiers. The message is strong. It's also in their first language, Kiswahilli that is: http://pgwokto.vodpod.com/video/797850-singe?c=sort.latest Uh...! Human behavior. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] stretching really is important
Eulace Peacock Faster Than Jesse Owens This track star beat Jesse Owens a majority of the times he raced him in the 100-yard-dash and also at the long jump for good measure. So why don’t you know his name? He pulled a thigh muscle right before the 1936 Olympics, denying him the chance to smack down the master race (or even compete in an Olympic event, since they weren’t held again until 1948, by which point he had retired), proving stretching really is as important as your gym teacher claimed. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] one-hundred-fifty-questions-to-a-guerrilla & about-counterintelligence
He trained and adviced Fidel Castro. Read what his strategies: http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/one-hundred-fifty-questions-to-a-guerrilla Uhmmm...! Human behaviour. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Re: KENYA - The Fall Out
Irrespective of other views, fact is that this blood is spilling and lives are ending because of Kibaki's greed. Take or leave it, Kibaki lost the election and the honorable thing to do is he must step down if he cares about Kenyans at all. As it stands, all he cares about is power - and he wants to keep it at whatever human cost and slapping global opinion. Had he acknowledged the defeat, Kenya would be above all else. Museveni didn't want to be seen as the only power-hungry African president so he lured Kibaki into doing the same. Now, who else can single Museveni out? In a way, this is also to prepare Ugandans for 2011 - that Museveni will be there and Kibaki will be first to congratulate him. By the time Kenyans say enuff is enuff let Kibaki die in office, Uganda will be waking up to the usual nightmare in 2011. Probably we should just let these 2 old stooges fade away naturally instead of rattling them to murder us. There are just a few days on each head as I see and right now they are thinking real - what to do with all the wealth they are about to leave after killing so many people for the same. This thought and reality will kill them with more pain, heartache and fear than taking them down. Sure, the statutes and monuments will be destroyed with out a trace because there are no worthy reasons to keep them in public view. Uhmmm...! Human behaviour. _______ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: AnneMugisha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Forum For Democratic Change <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2008 1:08:09 PM Subject: Re: KENYA - The Fall Out From: AnneMugisha 10 killed in fresh western Kenya clashes: police 6 hours ago NAIROBI (AFP) — Fresh fighting and rioting left at least 10 people, including a policeman, dead and dozens of houses torched in western Kenya Friday, police said. In one incident, thousands of armed villagers killed a police officer, razed a government office, stole four guns and 200 rounds of ammunition in Kericho district, a flashpoint of the latest violence sparked by the killing of an MP. "People from the whole village attacked the policeman and killed him," said Walter Aliwa, a police commander for Anaimoi trading post.___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] The Black Man’s Place
The Black Man’s Place in South Africa Peter Nielsen The reader has a right to ask what qualification the writer may have for dealing with the subject upon which he offers his opinions. The author of this book claims the qualifications of an observer who, during many years, has studied the ways and thoughts of the Natives of South Africa on the spot, not through interpreters, but at first hand, through the medium of their own speech, which he professes to know as well as the Natives themselves. Read more: http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/the-black-mans-place___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Re: Is Museveni a Ugandan?(BETI KAMYA) Is Kamya inciting tribal conflict?
Michael, I mentioned the same in an earlier email. I stated that Nubians were in Uganda centuries before the late Mzee Kaguta, the presidents father, fled to Uganda from Ruwanda in the 1900s. Who then in more Ugandan? Museveni is like most of our children in the diaporas. There are many Ugandans to the core in Canada but their children are Canadian because they were born here. They are first generation Canadians and proud of it. The difference between us (kyeyo hunters) and them is that they are Canadians first while we are Ugandans first. They are Canadians by birth and we are naturalized Canadians. But this is simply something that Museveni does not want us to know. He doesn't want Ugandans to know that he was born of Rwandese immigrant refugees - he was born in Uganda by default or by coincidence or by accident. The point is, why doesn'e he want Ugandans to know his roots? What is the fear is acknowleging this fact? The fact, too, is that Museveni is neither a Ugandan Muhima or any group from Ankole. We know he is neither a Hutu by his efforts to overthrow Habyalimana and causing the death of hundred of thousands of Rwandese. He is a Tutsi 110%. Museveni's fear of sounding off his Tutsi origin is because there are historically no Tutsis in Uganda so that would make him a Rwandese by default. he does not even mention this fact in his Mustared Seeds. He jumps right into his new life without stating where/how it begun. It is an obvious tendency that most non-Ugandans who hold big offices in the country do not want to be known they are foreigners - worst still, that their immediate parents or themselves are either non-Ugandans or first generation Ugandans. A case in point is the Presidesnts spokesman who has not produced any documentary proof to show when he became a naturalized Ugandan. Instead he behaves and makes decisions with pride as a Ugandan with embeded roots in one of the country's ethnic groups. This, against the fact that even Wikipedia states clearly that Nagenda is a Rwandese (Ref: "John Nagenda (born 25 April 1938, Gahim, Ruanda-Urundi(Rwanda and Burundi) was an East African cricketer. He played one One Day International in the 1975 World Cup".) Unfortunately, Nagenda does not want Ugandans to know or even think about this truth. My problem is that it is these foreigners who have no sympathy for human rights in Uganda. I am sure a true Muganda will have a moment to rethink his decision to exterminate an Acholi than a fake Rwandese-cum-Ugandan. That is why Uganda is experiencing this level or brutality and human rights violations inflicted by people who have no ethnic roots in the country. We saw the same in the 1970s when Sudanic elements committed attrocities that left Ugandans blaming the Ugandan Nubians who were resettled in the country by Lord Lugard centuries before the Hutus dismantled Tutsi Kings in Rwanda resulting in the immigration of the Kaguta family. It is the reason Museveni is leaving the dislocation of Nubians in Bombo to take its natural course. He himself can not lay absolute claim ethnically to any region of the country so he can use any amount of lethal force with no regards for local lives. ___________ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: Michael Senyonjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:18:51 PM Subject: RE: Is Museveni a Ugandan?(BETI KAMYA) Is Kamya inciting tribal conflict? Sorry Ugandans in Sussex, UK There was nothing wrong with what Beti wrote. All that the President has to do is show us his ancentral graves and I assure you Beti will apologise if any offence has been caused. If you don't want your origins to be talked about you don't get involved in public life. Talking about a politicians origins therefore is not inciting violence. You know very well that Ntungamo and the sorounding areas were refugee centres for Tutsi's running away from the first civil war of Rwanda in the 1950's. Many Tutsui's have since integrated in Ugandan society and no one has a problem with that. But when you have someone building schools in Tanzania, building presidential palaces and ordering new jets at a time when 77% of Ugandans cannot afford basic necessities, then Beti, and many other Ugandans have a right to question the patriotism of that person. I was in Kampala recently and 'YES' Uganda is being dominated by the Bahima clan. This is visible everywhere and is causing animosity among other peoples of Uganda. As a Muganda, I now see the Bahima, Balaalo and migrant Tutsi's conspiring to take over our land. Museveni might be your president, but everyday I get a reason to believe that he's not my president and that i am indeed his captive.
[Ugnet] Re: Kenya Battle Goes to AU
It's the right time for Ugandans, too, to rise against Museveni. Leaving his corrupt government as Kenya falls sends the wrong message to donor/funding nations that Uganda is more democratic and that the last elections were fairer than Kenya's. Now is the right time to tell the world that the whole region is being run by power-hungry and blood-thirsty dictators - with some doing past 22 years and still letting. Now is aslo the right time to rise and show the next Ugandan leaders that the days of life-presidency, tribalism/nepotism, and dictatorship are all gone. Right now, we know eMu7 has already laid out the rigging plans for 2011. Let no one live with the hope he is going to step down - he wants to die president whatever the costs to peace, human lives, and international opinion. Five more years for eMu7 urgently calls for his assassination because the privatized military just won't do it. Kenyanns and Ugandans must together let these blood-sucking tribalistic oldies go. I have sopken. _______ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: AnneMugisha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Forum For Democratic Change <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:35:29 AM Subject: Re: Kenya Battle Goes to AU___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Re: {acholinet:4177} Uganda extends rebel peace deadline
Herbert,
For once, you are 110% CORRECT...!
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- Original Message
From: HARBERT BUHANGA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:08:52 AM
Subject: Re: {acholinet:4177} Uganda extends rebel peace deadline
OJ
LRA is fake orgainsation. Kony and LRM are antagonistic bodies. Matsanga told
me that the last time Martin Ojul went to meet Kony before the death of Vincent
Otti, he(Kony) humiliated the negotiating team so much. He stripped them naked
before Riek Machar , Riek was buffled. Kony frog matched Ojul and company while
they were naked.
He accused them of eating all the financial aid that Sudan was giving to LRM.
Ojul tried to explain the expenditures but Kony couldn't listen. Kony is bitter
that Ojul, Obitta and company used to get cash while he(kony) was only getting
bullets and guns in the bush.
Dr Obita refused to meet Kony right from the start. While Kony was slapping
Ojul, he was demanding why Obitta had no turned up. Kony has been looking for
Obitta's head for the last eight years.
Now OJ, do you see Ojul, Obitta, Matsanga and the rest fighting for the ten
commandments?. They are smarter than that Sir.
This is a money making thing . They get paid by the Sudans government for the
job Kony is doing for it while Kony is in bush masterbating and rapping people.
Matsanga is a con man. He is another nutter with little education from Croydon
College. He can do anything for money.
So who is Rugunda talking peace with?
Somebody must be fooling us. Let them release the children. We careless about
the nonsense that they are talking about.
HB
Matek Matek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So you man what is your point???
Oryema you have a dangerous political ambition..to say the least...Just keep
talking ..and see if that will take you anywhere.
MK
On Jan 30, 2008 9:22 AM, oryema johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Noc,
We have an LRA rep Matek right on this forum. Let him gives the option left.
He opposes the return of refugees back to their villages, he swears Kony will
never be arrested and tried by ICC and mocks people like us who are firmly
committed to having Kony arrested and tried for crimes against humanity
I have said it before, however deep one goes back into history, there is no
where they will find where it is stated that war-lords borrow by standers to
negotiate on their behalf..Martin got employed by whoever is funding the
peace negotiations for a year, earned enough and has now left...It is now
Masanga's turn to get the check...The money being wasted on these looters is
enough to resettle a few families back home as well as sending their children
to school.
Statistically, there are more people dying in those camps than being killed by
UPDF and Kony combined...Considering that most of the children born in the
camps do not celebrate their 5th birthdays, the longer they stay in the camps
the fewer people there will be in the entire Acoli sub-regions for generations
to come...
If this peace process in Juba has turned into an employment centre for pro-Kony
supporters, it is better it is ended...If Kony cannot participate in it and is
not wiling to sign the deal, what is the point...why give Museveni another
excuse to keep people interned when he already has enough of those...
OJ
NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
They are just eating. As the saying goes, "Lu-camo, lu-camo; Lu lwenyo,
lu-lwenyo"!!!
My conviction is that the LRA in its present form is not worth negotiating
with. It needs time to organise a more solidly convincing structure. Why should
the government negotiate with a team that is basically detached from the real
boss?! Was it not said last week that Matsanga himself has never met Kony? Or
was that another distortion to elude the ICC?
The Ugandan government should place demand on the LRA delegation. It should be
clearly established whom the LRA negotiators are. Equally so, their current
contact with the LRA High command. It should be represented by people who
directly report to Kony and who stand up for his ideal. Otherwise the same
situation will recurr.
Dr. Matsanga & co has been recurringly in and out of the set-up so many times.
They also stand a risk of being included in the ICC indictment if it is
established that they had a role during the peak of LRA atrocity.
We have just experienced the hard core reality when the LRA's own team of
negotiators was death scared of going to report to Kony.
The negotiators demystified one major aspect: they have been LRA all along!!!
We said it all along that they were LRA. Martin Ojul swore like never before
that he was not LRA, but, only jumped in to roll the peace initiative. Now the
same
[Ugnet] Return to Uganda: A Chinga-chinga's perspective
Oh Brother.! Indians now agree there are 2 Indians in Uganda each with a different way of treating or relating to Africans. Open video: http://www.pbs.org/media/frontlineworld/uganda_rc43_hi.mov?v1st=DA6E57679BB7665F ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
Re: [Ugnet] JUST IN
Ugandan or Kenyan? ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Cc: Emmy Wasirwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:22:17 PM Subject: [Ugnet] JUST IN Africans Un reliable sources report that MP Mugambi Were has been shot and killed. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] this day today
Amin weds Sarah. There is a familiar Muganda muko (with a large flat nose) shaking hands with Sarah - but muko appears more nervous than shy. Even arap Moi was present. AND you folks still have the audacity to say Amin was a no-gooder after the loaf fell off your mouths? http://kwotkaka.vodpod.com/video/822886-the-style-is-the-man-himself ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Between 2 Fires
"Between 2 Fires" is precise and outrageous. Watch it here: http://kwotkaka.wordpress.com _______ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Why can' we say the same of a Ugandan..?
An Australian Definition of a Canadian Written by an Australian Dentist ... You probably missed it in the local news, but there was a report that someone in Pakistan had advertised in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed a Canadian - any Canadian. An Australian dentist wrote the following editorial to help define what a Canadian is, so they would know one when they found one. A Canadian can be English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. A Canadian can be Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, Arab, Pakistani or Afghan. A Canadian may also be a Cree, Metis, Mohawk, Blackfoot, Sioux, or one of the many other tribes known as native Canadian First Nations. A Canadian's religious beliefs range from Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu or none. In fact, there are more Muslims in Canada than in Afghanistan. The key difference is that in Canada they are free to worship as each of them chooses. Whether they have a religion or no religion, each Canadian ultimately answers only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God. A Canadian lives in one of the most prosperous lands in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity is reflected in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. A Canadian is generous and Canadians have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return. Canadians welcome the best of everything, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services and the best minds But they also welcome the least - the oppressed, the outcast and the rejected. These are the people who built Canada. You can try to kill a Canadian if you must as other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world have tried, but in doing so you could just be killing a relative or a neighbour. This is because Canadians are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, can be a Canadian. Please keep this going! Pass this around the World. Then pass it around again. It says it all, for all of us. 'Keep your stick on the ice' _______ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Maasai African Prayer video
Ehi Folks, I happen to pickup a word or two in Maasai and plenty in Pokot and Turkana where my late old man used to work before and after independence. Kindly appreciate the Maasai African Prayer video and many more on my blog: C'mon-in to my Blog. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] stop the practice
Justification: If it ain't cut, it will grow out of your head and you will die. How brutal...! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMSQPDd1B2g&feature=related _______ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] an e-bookshelf
It is growing with interesting readings. Pay a it a visit: http://lakitgum.wordpress.com/category/4-my-e-bookshelf ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Re: KENYA - Pictorial
The difference between tribalism and racism among living homosapiens and extinct neanderthals is that one is rudimentary in comport while the other is chronically uncivilized. They both exude lethal amounts of force with one verbally vitriol and the other of the matchette rapid justice. One inflicts exogenous damages that satisfies its wants by literally bleeding the opponent to death while the other produces vials of endogenous substances so stupefying and retrogressively shocking that it often results into the heart attack type. One is debilitatingly progressive while the other has stayed still and remained oblivious to the history of time. One is stealthly coward while the other is a face-to-face action-packed thriller. One is slow but sure while the other is speedy and regretably irreversible. One is for Africans and the other for Westerners - I mean white Westerners and their revamped slave cohorts aka Kyeyolanders, not the stilleto pinhead herdsmen of western Uganda who can momentarily morp from questionable spurts of peaceful coexhistance to something indescribably worrying. Oh, for Christ's shake, I hate to see African judges in white imperial wigs -they look ridiculous. Canadian and American jusdges threw them a long time ago but CHOGM membership dictates we be as Anglo as possible for there is evidence of civilization - To The Queen! Actually, one is Kenyan and the other is American - I mean racism and tribal tendencies. Fortunately for my personal conscience emotional imbibement, the O-factor stands out prominently in both as the opposite sides of the same coin. Whatever the consequences, one or both will make do - for a long time. Go Obama. go Odinga!!! ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: AnneMugisha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Forum For Democratic Change <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 10:04:11 AM Subject: KENYA - Pictorial___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Daily reading keeps you wise and sane
Read at least one Chapter of a Book - any book - everyday. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Zulfikar hanged, daughter Bhutto assassinated bu sicide bomber
My loquacious nephew asked a few weeks ago - actually he said he was challenging me to a riddle which turned out not to be. He said in Palestine and Iraq, there have been both male and female suicide bombers and he could understand the brainwashing logic behind the tough decision by a man to die a martyr for Islam and being rewarded with 400 beautiful, voluptuous, lip-smacking virgins. Accordingly, that made sense to him. But what he couldn't understand was whether a female suicide bomber would also be rewarded with 400 handsome, silver-back, horny kanyamas. This reward alone should instead turn off female suicide bombers from the mayhem of being harangued and man-handled 400:1. So he asked me to solve the riddle. I replied him that there is an unsung human quality called resilience and he would be surprised knowing what materials some humans are made of - vulcanized beyond Michelin tires against heat. The young man has been laughing for over a week. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:28:35 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Re: [Ugandacom] Zulfikar Ali Bhutto hanged by the Military, daughter Bhutto assassinated - background Eddie Kironde The woman was a gangster and a thief. She was forced to return by United States for they wanted to use her to press the Pakistan government to kill more of Pakistanis and loot more money. This is a whole pile of thieves that are starting to fall out. Get to understand who she was. EM Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is under anarchy" Groupe de Communication Mulindwas "Avec Yoweri Museveni, L'Ouganda East Dans L'anarchie" - Original Message - From: Ed Kironde To: unaanet Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [Ugandacom] Zulfikar Ali Bhutto hanged by the Military, daughter Bhutto assassinated - background Benazir Bhutto assassinated in a suicide attack today 27 december Benazir Bhutto Date of birth: June 21, 1953 Date of death: December 27, 2007 Benazir Bhutto was born in Karachi, Pakistan to a prominent political family. At age 16 she left her homeland to study at Harvard's Radcliffe College. After completing her undergraduate degree at Radcliffe she studied at England's Oxford University, where she was awarded a second degree in 1977. Later that year she returned to Pakistan where her father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, had been elected prime minister, but days after her arrival, the military seized power and her father was imprisoned. In 1979 he was hanged by the military government of General Zia Ul Haq. Bhutto herself was also arrested many times over the following years, and was detained for three years before being permitted to leave the country in 1984. She settled in London, but along with her two brothers, she founded an underground organization to resist the military dictatorship. When her brother died in 1985, she returned to Pakistan for his burial, and was again arrested for participating in anti-government rallies. She returned to London after her release, and martial law was lifted in Pakistan at the end of the year. Anti-Zia demonstrations resumed and Benazir Bhutto returned to Pakistan in April 1986. The public response to her return was tumultuous, and she publicly called for the resignation of Zia Ul Haq, whose government had executed her father. She was elected co-chairwoman of the Pakistan People's Party (PPP) along with her mother, and when free elections were finally held in 1988, she herself became Prime Minister. At 35, she was one of the youngest chief executives in the world, and the first woman to serve as prime minister in an Islamic country. Only two years into her first term, President Ghulam Ishaq Khan dismissed Bhutto from office. She initiated an anti-corruption campaign, and in 1993 was re-elected as Prime Minister. While in office, she brought electricity to the countryside and built schools all over the country. She made hunger, housing and health care her top priorities, and looked forward to continuing to modernize Pakistan. At the same time Bhutto faced constant opposition from the Islamic fundamentalist movement. Her brother Mir Murtaza, who had been estranged from Benazir since their father's death, returned from abroad and leveled charges of corruption at Benazir's husband, Asif Ali Zardari. Mir Murtaza died when his bodyguard became involved in a gunfight with police in Karachi. The Pakistani public was shocked by this turn of events and PPP supporters were divided over the charges against Zardari. In 1996 President Leghari of Pakistan d
[Ugnet] Woman Married To 10 Men At Same Time
Related To Story Eunice Lopez is accused of being married to 10 different men at the same time. Woman Married To 10 Men At Same Time 26-Year-Old Accused Of Being Bigamist POSTED: 7:48 am EST December 14, 2007 UPDATED: 11:00 am EST December 14, 2007 MIAMI -- A 26-year-old Miami woman was married to 10 men at the same time, prosecutors allege, in a marriage-for-pay scheme to enable the men to remain in the United States. Eunice Lopez was charged with nine counts of bigamy Wednesday. The charges say she married the men between 2002 and 2006 without divorcing any of them. In one case, she married two men in the same month. On June 22, 2002 Lopez married Mauricio Carlo Matos as evidenced by a Certificate of Marriage filed with the Miami-Dade County Clerk of the Court on June 27, 2002. On Aug. 11, 2003, while still married to Natos, Lopez married Jose L. Ramos. A Certificate of Marriage was filed with the clerk of the court on Aug. 19, 2003. On March 5, 2005, while still married to Natos and Ramos, Lopez married Antonio Roberto Cordeiro. A certificate of marriage was filed with the clerk of the court on March 15, 2005. On Nov. 5, 2005, Lopez married Humberto Navarro Suarez. A certificate of marriage was filed on Nov. 8, 2005. Lopez was still married to Natos, Ramos and Cordeiro. Just 12 days after her marriage to Suarez, Lopez married Leandro Abelha on Nov. 17, 2005. The same day a marriage certificate was filed with the clerk of the court. On Jan. 6, 2006, Lopez married Euclides Yepes Ceballos. There were still no divorce proceedings on file for Lopez with the clerk of the court, but a marriage certificate was issued on Jan. 9, 2006. On May 11, 2006, Lopez married Martin Errazola Alvarez. The same day a marriage certificate was filed with the clerk of the court. On June 2, 2006, Marco Antonio Serrano and Lopez were married. Again, on the same day, a certificate of marriage was filed with the clerk of the court. On July 24, 2006, Diego M. Hernandez-Figueroa and Lopez were married and the same day a certificate of marriage was filed with the clerk of the court. On Nov. 21, 2006, Lopez married Fernando Jose Urroz Leguisamo. A certificate of marriage was filed with the clerk of the court the same day. She was held at the Women's Detention Center on $75,000 bond, but posted bond Friday morning, according to the state attorney's office. The investigation is continuing. Copyright 2007 by Local10.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. _______ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Blind Man Test
A blind Jamaican man walks into a little restaurant and sits down. The owner walks up to him and hands him a menu. "Mi blind, sah, an caan se fe read de menu". Jus bring mi one fork dat one ah yu customah use arreddy, an mi will smell it an order fram it" A little confused, the owner walks over to the dirty dish pile and picks up a greasy fork. He returns to the man's table and hands it to him. The blind man puts the fork to his nose and takes in a deep breath. "Ah, yes, dat's what mi will 'ave - rice nd peas wid jerk fish!" Unbelievable, and after the blind man leaves, the owner walks towards the kitchen and tells his Wife Dawn, the cook, what just happened. Several days later, the blind man returns, and the owner mistakenly brings him a menu again. "Sir, remembah mi? Mi ah de blind man." "I'm sorry, I didn't recognize you. I'll go get you a fork." The owner gets a dirty fork for the blind man. After another deep breath, the blind man says, "Dat smells great! Mi will take de jerk chicken an rice wid broccoli." The owner thinks the blind man is screwing around with him and figures that the next time the man comes in, he's going to test him. He returns the following week, but this time the owner sees him coming and runs to the kitchen. He tells his wife, "Dawn, rub this fork on your panties." Dawn does it and hands the fork to her husband. As the blind man walks in and sits down, the owner is ready and waiting. "Good afternoon, sir, this time I remembered you, and I have your fork ready for you." The blind man puts the fork to his nose, sniffs, and says, "Rass mon, mi neva know say Dawn wuk yah!" - ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Breed Her Again
A 17 year-old Jamaican girl tells her Mom that she has missed her period for the last two months. Very worried, the mother goes to the pharmacy and buys a pregnancy test. Confirming her worst fears, the test result is positive. Shouting, swearing and crying, the Mother says, "Which rass man do dis to you? Mi need fi know now!" The girl picks up the phone and makes a call. Half an hour later, a BMW X5 pulls up in front of their house; a dapper looking man dressed in an Armani suit steps out and walks to the house. He sits in the living room with the father, the mother, & the girl and tells them: "Good morning, your daughter has informed me of the situation. I can't marry her because of my personal family situation, but I'll take charge. I will pay all costs & provide for your daughter for the rest of her life. Additionally, if a girl is born I will bequeath her 2 retail stores, a townhouse, a beachfront villa and a $2,000,000 bank account. He continues: "If a boy is born, my legacy will be a factory and a $4,000,000 bank account. If twins, they will receive a factory and $2,000,000 each. However, if there is a miscarriage, what do you suggest I do?" At this point, the father, who had remained silent, places a hand firmly on the man's shoulder and very decisively tells him, "You can breed her again ..." - ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Anglican Archbishop angrily cuts up his clerical collar on tv.
“As far as I am concerned, from now on I am not going to wear a dog collar until Mugabe has gone.” Sentamu. I wonder why Sentamu didn't cut up his real neck instead if he hated Mugabe that much. What is he trying to prove? that Mugabe is worse than Museveni? How many deaths have each of them sanctioned? talk about an idiot (borrowing from Ocii) misplacing his emotions...! Publication date: Sunday, 9th December, 2007 Archbishop Sentamu By Steven Candia And Agencies THE Anglican Archbishop of York, Ugandan-born John Sentamu angrily cut up his clerical collar live on British television yesterday in protest of Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe’s continued stay in power. His dramatic gesture came amidst controversy over Mugabe’s participation at a European Union-Africa summit in Lisbon. The summit was boycotted by British premier Gordon Brown over allegations of human rights abuses. “As an Anglican, this is what I wear to identify myself,” Sentamu, a former judge in Uganda who fled to exile during Idi Amin’s regime, said as he pulled off his white collar during an interview on BBC Tv. “You know what Mugabe has done. He has taken people’s identity and literally cut it into pieces,” he said as he cut up the collar. “As far as I am concerned, from now on I am not going to wear a dog collar until Mugabe has gone.” Mugabe, in power since the former Rhodesia won independence in 1980, has presided over the collapse of his country’s once thriving agrarian economy. Inflation is now officially the highest in the world, having hit an annual rate in September of 7,982%, while unemployment is around 80%. There are widespread shortages of basic foodstuffs in a country that used to be known as Africa’s breadbasket, and people are now dying from hunger. Mugabe, 83, accuses foreign powers - in particular Britain - of undermining his country’s economy in an attempt to oust him. He claims his nationalisation of former white-owned farms is simply righting the wrongs of the past. Sentamu, who has been a consistent critic of Mugabe, said the international community, especially South Africa, had to act to help Zimbabwe. Power, he said, had gone to Mugabe’s head, and the leader did not seem to “realise the suffering of his people.” At the Lisbon conference, German chancellor Angela Merkel said Mugabe’s policies had “damaged Africa”. Ahead of the Lisbon summit, former Portuguese colonies in Africa, including the oil-rich Angola, made it clear that they wanted Mugabe to attend. Some African leaders see Mugabe as a historically important colleague and they object to the idea of former colonial powers, such as the UK, intervening in African politics. But that view has drawn the ire of Sentamu. “It is African leaders who seem to say ‘we are backing a revolutionary’. I’m sorry, that is a lot of nonsense. They ought to realise what he has actually done. It has become a scourge on the conscience of the whole world.” And he wondered: “Why aren’t we as a world community, uniting against Mugabe?” - ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] CNN Uganda's Hero
Watch a repeat of last night's CNN Heroes at 8:00 ETto see Sister Rosemary of St Monica School in Gulu receive an award. - ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] EBOLA - what goes around, comes around
When Ebola hit Gulu a couple of yrs ago, the Acholis were shunned in Kampala - let alone being run away from. When said the disease was brought by soldiers repartriated from DRC, the government vehemently disagreed and exclusively blamed the Acholi for 'causing' the disease - as if Acholi ate chimps, gorillas and their cousin baboons and monkeys. To date, the government never accepted that government soldiers knowingly infected in DRC and deliberating airlifted to Gulu to facilitate the extermination of Acholis in addition to Kony's scorched earth murder spree were the carriers of Ebola to the town. While Lukwiya was mourned and eulogized by foreign governments the government of Uganda simply let his memories fade away - as though nobody like Lukwiya ever lived to care for patients. His wife, completely neglected as promises rot and stunk in the mouths of those who promised eternal support to the family. Now, the disease as ably hit "home" - I mean NRM country. Someone reading this posting comes from this area. Yo, how does it feel to be an Acholi, now?The same individuals who blamed Acholi for "causing" Ebola are dumbfounded, disorganized and of all things, I repeat, of all things, are calling doctors to desert their very own patients. For many years I have repeatedly heard the oath taken by medical graduates leaving MUK. That oath is very solemn indeed yet it now typifies just how a government sworn to protect the interest of Ugandans is letting the country self-distruct while a few swell their purses at the expense of healthcare and emergency aid for natural disasters. For once, I now know it is the long-suffering and alienated Acholis who are the most politically informed people in Uganda. They have learnt and accepted to to live without government aid or empty promises and truelly dont give a fck to Museveni and empty promises. That's why amidst troubled times with the LRA murderes, they overwehlmingly voted against the NRM instead of voting on bended knees - there was nothing to loose and indeed today they are not any different from the rest of the country that voted for son of Kaguta. Acholi's curent problems are the direct results of the war enhanced by a planned government negligence and superficial policies. Now Ebola is hitting folks equally whether one voted for Museveni or not. The fact is that, like Ebola in Gulu, there weren't any emergency kits either set aside for NRM country. Folks are shocked. Instead of government rushing, it is instead ordering the few smokes-screens strategically sent to instill fear and enforce obedience to run away as fast as they can from their supportes. The response to the outbreak in NRM country should serve as a leasson - a lesson which should have long been learnt from the Acholi voters who didn't vote for Museveni yet have equally lost nothing compared to those who voted for Museveni. Who then, is better politically infomed? Those who lived in camps and never attended schools in 20 years or those on whose land Museveni constantly crisscossed as they danced in highly flamable dry banana leaves chanting eternal rule and going to school all along. Agree to this: Only fools voted for Museveni. Scratch your head or bite yoir nails, but think of how dumb you were and continue to be. - ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "Even a small dog can piss on a tall building". Jim Hightower C'mon in to my Blog - Original Message From: Paul Ssemaluulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 7, 2007 1:05:36 AM Subject: EBOLA This is a letter from the “Monitor” http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/letters/Have_emergency_fund_for_Ebola_epidemic.shtml Have emergency fund for Ebola epidemic At last it happened. Last week a team of health officials were dispatched from the Ministry of Health in Kampala, and 10 other international health experts to reinforce the rapid response capability in the Ebola-hit district of Bundibugyo. Thank you. But the first case of Ebola outbreak was reported on November 10 in that very district. What was the government of Uganda waiting for? It is painful to have a government which will lose no sleep even upon the news of Ebola outbreak. The helpless taxpayers of this government had to wait for nearly two months as the disease spread to over 14 villages and 16 lives perished, before experts could leave their comfortable offices in Kampala. In October 2000, a total of 173 people died and 426 others were diagnosed with Ebola in northern Uganda. That was our very first encounter with Ebola. Today, Ugandans expected to see a better and well coordinated response from the government. Ugandans rightly expected the Ministry of Health this time to exude confidence and a sign of preparedness in dealing with this epidemic. But what do we see now? Confus
[Ugnet] Re: OTIIS FATE casts doubt over Martin Ojul's credibility
Only a fool would mourn the death of Otii ... or Ojul's, if it happens. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments. - Original Message From: NOC´LADUMAS GEORGES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:16:19 PM Subject: RE: OTIIS FATE casts doubt over Martin Ojul's credibility OKANKODI (DIASPORA) KILLED OTII?!?!!! Now they are crawling with their tail between the legs…Their Satanic Vampires!!! But, what to do, this is Africa: you can anything and get away with it straight-faced. It don’t matter none!! You can butcher at will and stand on wiibyer to enjoy the morning sun and they will ghost tickle. Acoli Okankodi aye oneko Otti. Or at least they are the ones who have had him tortured (TREASON is a very serious allegation and in vampire circles, it is fate bound. Okankodi gire en aye guneko Otii. If this were in our culture, the members of the so-called negotiation team (esp. that of the LRA) would be “clinically” screened and their affiliation established and made public for accountability. If this were in our culture, it would not be possible for any Okankodi to come hurtling in from nowhere, only to join the LRA bunch of negotiators yet simultaneously claiming that he is not LRA. No one would buy that crap!! People would ask the right questions because people would be very keen to know who / who the masked actors behind the LRA are. They would be very persistent to demystify the bloodsucker motherfuckers who have been confusing Uganda, the LRA and Acoli. They are the very ones who are the reason why the ordeal has lasted more than two decades. They are the ones who have been running to Kony. Giving Kony false hopes and getting him to hold on to the barrels. For in Kony, the see a bargaining object!! Even when they knew damn well that the ICC indictment would not be dropped, they still deceived Kony. They are the ones who have been running to Kony, tailoring all sorts of malicious scenarios to fit their wicked vendetta. But to no avail. Did we not hear Ojul & co declare on arrival in Uganda that they would sign the peace pack regardless of the ICC indictment?! I do not think that was Kony dictating Now the same tormentors, the same deceptive impudence turn around to be embraced as emancipators and revelatory manshit!! WEK KIWAC NI GIN AYE GIKELO KUC KUN KONO KUC DONG NGENE KENE. Lweny oloyo LRA. All they care about is YWEKA (Fame). These burgers do anything for fame. After lying to Ugandan all these decades, concealing their true colours, suddenly the truth came dazzling on their faces: 1) The war has suddenly come to an end. The environment is no longer conducive to war. The LRA has failed to fight; they are no longer attractive in the Arab/ African crisis and above all, IN UGANDA THE PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT AND HAVE NO MORE PATIENCE WITH THE LRA. Besides, the UPC, the part to which most of the LRM (LRA’s political wing) belonged, if only as “UPC abac-abac”, no longer sees armed resistance as an option. Some of these Okankodi vampires had jumped off the UPC after Dr. Obote (RIP) dissolved the then PPC. Now the renegades found temporary solace with the FDC before the cold reception at the FDC forced them to seek the LRA wilderness. 2) Some FDC insiders I talked to confirmed that a couple of years back or so, these individuals told the FDC that they had direct access to Kony and the LRA. Not only that, THEY CLAIMED “THEY HAD PEOPLE (meaning fighters) But when handed the satellite cell phone to communicate with Kony, they just perspired. These same individuals had for a long time been working the Acoli community. For a long time they had been rallying understanding for a need for the LRA to be represented by other well versed Acoli “WHO WERE NOT ” LRA. As it turned out, as the JUBA PEACE TALKS materialised, these were the very same category that suddenly were on the LRA delegation. Even before the summon in Juba they had flow in from Sweden, Gr. Britain. Suddenly, they were Acoli / Ugandan “WHO WERE NOT” LRA. But, WERE THEY NOT? What happened to the direct contact with the LRA that they always boasted of? What happened to “I have people”? So, now suddenly they did not want to be associated with the LRA anymore. But since the ICC indictment won’t be reversed, their fear is that KONY MIGHT REFUSE TO GO DOWN THE ICC DRAINS ALONE. They fear Kony will talk and they too might become haunted. Thus the MATO OFUT campaign and on goi
[Ugnet] Vanishing husbands trouble India
Vanishing husbands trouble India By MADHUR SINGH/NEW DELHI When Archana Sharma got married in 1999, she saw it as a chance to keep her family out of poverty after her father's untimely death. A strikingly beautiful folk dancer from the north Indian state of Haryana, the then 25-year-old had turned down several offers to act in regional-language films because she came from a conservative family, consenting instead to wed a Toronto-based astrologer she knew through her maternal uncle. "I agreed to marry a man I had never met, thinking he would take me to a better life in Canada," she says. "Once settled there, I would take my two younger sisters and our mother, too." After a six-week visit for the wedding, her husband returned to Toronto promising to complete the legal formalities for her to join him. But her tickets never came. After six years of waiting, Sharma received documents informing her that she had been divorced. Stories like Sharma's are growing increasingly common across India, as changing values remove some of the social stigma surrounding failed marriages and concern from activists and officials encourages more women to talk about it. As many as 30,000 women have been abandoned by their émigré husbands, according to one Indian government estimate; activists say the real figures are probably much higher as most cases still go unreported. The Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs (MOIA), established in 2004 to look after the welfare of an estimated 20 million Non-Resident Indians (NRIS), launched a scheme earlier this year to provide counseling and legal and financial aid for Indian wives abandoned abroad. Closer to home, it has published a booklet for women planning to marry émigrés, to help them verify the credentials of their prospective spouses and their families, take proper legal precautions and seek help if things go wrong. "More such cases are being reported since we started disseminating information about the scheme," says Sandhya Shukla, director of social services at MOIA. Despite impressive economic growth over the past decade, some 450,000 Indians emigrate to other countries to find work every year, while thousands more go illegally. "For some, going abroad is about seeking better opportunities and social mobility," says Rainuka Dagar, senior research fellow at the Chandigarh-based Institute for Development and Communication, "But for many, it is about status. It is a symbol of pride to have a member of the family living and earning abroad." In many communities, "marriage to an NRI is considered a status symbol as it gets the entire family a chance to go abroad," says Santosh Singh, chairperson of the government-affiliated Family Counseling Centre in Chandigarh. Most of these unions, without doubt, are successful ones. But some overseas marriages can be problematic. At a MOIA conference on the issue in February, Girija Vyas, chairperson of India's National Commission for Women, noted that brides going abroad can suffer from culture shock if they have had no prior exposure to the West. Their overseas-raised spouses, meanwhile, can find themselves pressured into a traditional marriage by émigré parents. The combination can result in loveless, incompatible relationships and eventually, divorce. The worst cases, however, are those "where NRI men come to India seeking either huge dowries or 'holiday wives,'" says Singh. "If they abandon their brides and return to their adoptive countries, the brides and their families, living in a culture of patriarchy and keen to preserve their honor, often do not approach the authorities. And even if they do, there are limited legal options before them." Government agencies and NGOs are working to change that. The National Commission for Women has demanded that the government make it compulsory to register all marriages, which will provide women a more solid legal standing. Meanwhile, activist groups are lobbying for changes in the law to criminalize the suppression of information about previous marriages, and urging the government to sign agreements with other countries to make marital fraud an extraditable offense. In Punjab, where many families have at least one member working abroad, the left-leaning Lok Bhalai Party has made the plight of abandoned spouses a campaign issue. But for Sharma, these efforts are still too little, too late. "One odd change of law will not make a difference," she says. "Cases like mine will keep happening until women's status in society improves. And that will be a slow and long process." ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and
Re: [Ugnet] Re: Proposed membership fees at Uganda at Heart
EM & Ocii, It's even more scary that the organizers (experts) themselves are not responding to this humble request. _______ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments. - Original Message From: ocii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 9:30:29 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Proposed membership fees at Uganda at Heart Hehehee Amina! People pay money to go and see Osama Bin Laden. That I believe is money well spent! Now you want us to pay 25 dollars to know and see the faces of Oryema Johnson and Abbey Semwambba? Come on now Amina. Don't tell me this is a joke!! Ocii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, It is very simple. Just become a member of the foundation if you want to know more about Abbey and Oryema.Just pay your $25 dollars when this foundation is launched, then you will know more.Right now, you are only carrying a negative campaign which is utter nonsense.I would like to know when Abbey and Oryema are lauching this thing as i have got my $25 dollars here already. AMINA On 19 Oct, 01:29, Peter-Rhaina Gwokto wrote: > Who are you, guys ? - I mean, individually identify yourselves. Didn't > someone ask for resumes a while ago? Not a single Ugandan in Kyeyoland has > not been ripped - and some of the rippers are themselves fellow Kyeyolanders. > How do we start giving ideas and monies to people whose backgrounds and faces > we don't know? Brief us about yoursleves/backgrounds. I say this because even > crooks can reform and I know one or two crooks already in this forum in whose > traps I have personally fallen. > > In this digital age, we - I know I do - wnat to see your images. Haven't you > heard that pictures speak louder than words? Personally, I can read > characters through their eyes. > > So, open up or, forget it - at least, on my part. > > ___ > Peter-Rhaina Gwokto > Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against > humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 > counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged > crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced > enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments. > > - Original Message > From: Abbey Semuwemba > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: emilly Kemigisha ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL > PROTECTED]; Hakim Ssemuwemba ; Abdallah Balugambire ; Sewankambo Abubaker ; > Charles Kibuka ; charles kiwanuka ; Sarah muyingo ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > Michael Senyonjo ; David Basobokwe ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NASSIMBWA BARBARA ; M. Kibuka ; Muwonge Nasur Lubega > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:57:32 PM > Subject: Proposed membership fees at Uganda at Heart > > Dear members, > As part of the initial process of transparency and accountability in the > Uganda-at-heart Foundation, the above attached documents is what I have come > up with as a way of raising the funds for the organisation.I have included > other affiliates apart from individuals as a way of supplementing income.We > can draft letters to invite these affiliates to become members. A draft > proposal is being written on how we can entice them to join the organisation > and how it can be of use to them. > > We do welcome any ideas from members on how we can improve on this proposal > before it is made official. People whose emails I have included as a cc but > they are not members of Uganda-at-heart forum, should send their ideas or > proposals/ opinions either to me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have received this > email because we believe you could be a useful member or contributor to this > young foundation. We are also looking for volunteers who are committed and > willing to help us make this idea a reality. Please do not hesitate to > contact us in case of any other information needed. > > Thank you. > > Abbey Semuwemba --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ugandans at Heart" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Ugandans-at-Heart?hl=en -~--~--
Re: [Ugnet] Re: Besigye meets Ogole
What is it that Obote did wrong (in moderation) which Museveni has not done (in extreme)? ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments. - Original Message From: ocii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:49:51 AM Subject: [Ugnet] Re: Besigye meets Ogole Was Col. Ogole the one who picked up the gun to go to the bush because the 1980's general election was rigged?? If not then don't waste Ugandans' time uttering nonsense. It was Mu7 who picked up the gun to go to the bush because to him the 1980's election was rigged!! They did not go to the bush to drink malwa and have a good time; they went to the bush to fight a supposedly fraud government, and thereby caused the deaths of many Ugandans! And if he faught for rigged election, why did he end up rigging elections?? Are you or is Mu7 telling us that if he rigged election in the country, it is okay?? Kateregga don't insult our intelligence!! Col. Ogole cannot apologise for a wrong and political crimes he did not commit! Mu7 and his cahorts who started the war, yet rigged elections themselves must! As simple as that! Ocii Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Col.John Ogole was the butcher of Luwero. Ask Wafula Ogutu he wll tell you. He must apologise for the atrocities he committed and he must seek amnesty. - Original Message - From: Jean Paul Mivumba To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: Besigye meets Ogole 'I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) Ogole is a Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," Lt. Gen. Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone interview yesterday.' I think this is "Nugu" that Besigye upstaged them. Does Besigye need to be representing anybody to meet Ogole or anybody else? Is it only government that can meet exiles? -- Army, MPs welcome Ogole- Besigye meeting HUSSEIN BOGERE, YASIIN MUGERWA & MERCY NALUGO KAMPALA THE London reconciliatory meeting between Colonels Kizza Besigye and John Ogole has received a nod of approval from a section of Ugandans. Col. Ogole and Dr Besigye met in London last Sunday. Former bush war commander Lt Gen Elly Tumwine said Col Ogole is welcome to Uganda, although he wondered in whose capacity opposition leader Dr Besigye met Col Ogole. "I am sure he is free to return. We would welcome him. (Col) Ogole is a Ugandan. But who was Dr Besigye representing. He is not government," Lt. Gen. Tumwine, also member of the UPDF High Command said in a telephone interview yesterday. The UPDF spokesman, Maj Felix Kulayigye said reconciliation was not a new concept. "We have passed out 77 former LRA rebels. Nobody has been harassed. It is an old concept to absorb our adversaries," he said. "When we capture you, you either join us or you go home. There is the example of Maj. Gen. Julius Oketa who was a Lieutenant when he joined us. We don't need lessons. It has been our modus operandi on a non-combat avenue." At Parliament, Chwa MP, Livingstone Okello-Okello commended the move saying it was a new gesture that Uganda needs to embrace. Oyam South MP, Ishaa Otto said Col Ogole and Dr Besigye's meeting is welcome in the interest of peace and reconciliation. "This is what Ugandans need to hear. How long are we going to hate each other? President Yoweri Museveni should learn from this," the legislator said. Kawempe South MP and DP member Ssebuliba Mutumba was amazed to see the man who inflicted most casualties on the NRA in the Luweero bush war happily reconciled with Dr Besigye. "It is a sign of optimism towards a united nation. We need to teach our leaders that detestation cannot take us forward," he said. Bunyaruguru MP Gaudioso Tindamanyire said the NRM had not prevented anybody from coming back to Uganda. "We welcome everybody because it is the cornerstone of the government that cherishes tolerance," he said. Peter Claver Mutuluuza (Mawokota MP) however dismissed Col. Ogole as "expired and therefore cannot be a threat to the established NRM government." His views were echoed by Robert Byabashaija (Youth Western) who said Dr Besigye and Ogole's reconciliation cannot take the NRM by surprise. The opposition shadow minister for Foreign Affairs, Mr Reagan Okumu (Aswa County) added a twist to the meeting, saying there was not
Re: [Ugnet] FACE TO FACE WITH THE BUTCHER OF KIGALI
Fact is, it is your President who created this butcher - if at all. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments. - Original Message From: Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ugandanet@kym.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Abbey Semuwemba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; rwanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Ekissodde Ekissodde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Pan-Africanist Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 11:07:34 AM Subject: [Ugnet] FACE TO FACE WITH THE BUTCHER OF KIGALI FACE TO FACE WITH THE BUTCHER OF KIGALI Rwandan President Paul Kagame, responsible for crimes against humanity in Rwanda his own country and in the Democratic Republic of Congo, paradoxically was invited on 4.10.2007 by the London School of Economics’Centre for the Study of Human Rights to give a public lecture on “The Challenges of Development and Environmental Sustainability in Africa: The case of Rwanda”. Kagame of course repeated the same mantra of the “1994 genocide” in Rwanda, 14 years after which he had strived to rebuild a “prosperous and reconciled Rwanda after bad leadership (under a Hutu government) and a genocide during which one million Tutsi were killed; building democratic institutions, boosting the private sector, so that Rwanda can play an effective role in the regional, African and global level. Kagame also said that his government has enacted environmental and conservation laws to protect Rwanda’s biodiversity and natural resources and will host an international conference on this subject in Kigali next year. Let us note first of all that Rwandan President Paul Kagame is a manipulator who is using the 1994 genocide as a trump card! 1. Kagame goes to the Western powers and tell them: where were you when the Hutu nearly exterminated us, and they feel guilty, apologise and keep quiet, give him all the means possible (money and arms) to loot the mineral wealth of Congo. 2. Kagame goes to the Tutsi survivors of the genocide and tell them that they owe their lives and survival to him because he saved them from the Interahamwe, the Hutu genocidaires. And they keep quiet, vote for him, no opposition. But we know that Kagame was only interested in taking power, not saving the Tutsi, as General Dalaire revealed. Under President Kagame’s “Imidugu” policy or the “Politics of villagisation”, most of the villagers have been forced to built their huts along the main roads so that the notorious Local Defense Forces will keep a vigilant eye on them and to wield off infiltrators. The countryside is therefore deserted and Catholic missions there forced to close. Survivors of the genocide feel abandoned to themselves. Ordinary Rwandans say their leaders all returned from exile do not identify with them. In fact the new regime keeps a grudge against Tutsi who stayed behind and never went into exile, accusing them of having collaborated with the former Hutu regime. 3. Kagame goes to the Hutu in Rwanda and say, it was me who restrained my men from exterminating all of you in a gush of revenge, and they keep quiet and dare not oppose him. Yet we know that when accompanying Laurent Kabila to power, Kagame ordered his men to exterminate all the Hutu in refugee camps in eastern Congo, which they did. Nick Gordon, a BBC reporter investigated and reported that the Kigali regime has built crematorium at Bugasira, Ruhengeri, Byumba, Kibungo, Inyungwe and other locations where thousands of Hutus and Congolese deportees (80 Congolese youth were deported from Uvira, South Kivu into Rwanda in January 2001 and are unaccounted for today, according to the Missionary News Agency MISNA), were killed daily and their bodies are incinerated under the program called "MANPOWER DUTIES" while US officials are looking the other way. The Tutsi regime is conducting genocide in Rwanda to reduce the Hutu population to a “manageable level”. Any Tutsi minister or politician who disagreed with the policy is either in exile or has been assassinated. 4. Kagame goes to the Tutsi living in Congo and say, if you do not do anything for yourself, the Congolese will exterminate you. You know what happened in 1994 in Rwanda. It is not a surprise that The Economist in London called the Tutsi, the Jews of Africa. Bolstered by western support, Kagame branded the Congolese “the Ibicucu” in his native Kinyarwanda language – which means, the “nobodies, good for nothing, therefore kill them as many as you like”. Hence the a war of invasion (1998-2003) carried out by troops fr
Re: [Ugnet] Re: ...scary flood
I totally agree with you Ocii. I don't think the Minister's plea paints a picture of good governance Its embarassing that a whole Disaster "Preparedness" ministry was craeted with the main purpose of "goyo oduru" (sounding the alarm) to the interational community while the country itself has not stocked it with a single emergency tent, boat, bandage, or food. Worse still, the NRM seems to place itself in a position to predict disaster then "prepare" to confront. I wonder how many disasters the country has ever managed without "international" help. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments. - Original Message From: ocii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:57:40 PM Subject: [Ugnet] Re: ...scary flood They have been looting for all these years. Now they don't even know where to begin to help people, but to call on international communty to come to the rescue! Over 20 years in power these idiots have nothing to show the country, and in case of disaster of this magnitude, they have themselves to samelessly expose!! So idiotic, and believe that the international community will get embarassed! Africans are so ignorant!! Why do we keep dreaming the rest of the world cares about us?? Lack of knowing is very very dangerous! These people don't know shit, that is why Mu7 sells nurses to europe, telling them that go to europe and make money then send it back home!! Isn't Mu7 looking for permanent inclomes on the back of Ugandans sold to go perform kyeyo while the buffoons eat, shit and sleep?? Now there is a flood disasater and they are all furting around unable to do a thing!! Only calling on the international community!! S idiotic!! Ocii Peter-Rhaina Gwokto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hia3NhbYyG8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=gR3OQ8_Bx1o --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ugandans at Heart" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Ugandans-at-Heart?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- All new Yahoo! Mail Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
Re: [Ugnet] THE TEXT OF PRESIDENT MUGABE'S SPEECH AT 62ND SESSION
I viewed his complete presentation and, as always, no African HoS did or will ever beat this guy on eloquence, clarity and intelligence - let alone the unique native accent. Mugabe was created for this type of political pulpit. eMu7 always walks away leaving the Gen Ass. members asking what he really said. he may be a good leader but folks, his accent is killing the nation because nobody understands what he says - at least the real Ugandan can; not the western folks and their media. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments. - Original Message From: Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ugandanet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Congo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Pan-Africanist Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:41:13 PM Subject: [Ugnet] THE TEXT OF PRESIDENT MUGABE'S SPEECH AT 62ND SESSION Text of President Robert Mugabe's speech at 62nd Session of UN General Assembly Statement by His Excellency the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe, Comrade R. G. Mugabe, on the occasion of the 62nd Session of the United Nations General Assembly, New York, 26 September, 2007 Last updated: 09/27/2007 05:30:13 Your Excellency, President of the 62ndSession of the United Nations General Assembly, Mr. Srgjan Kerim, Your Majesties, Your Excellencies, Heads of State and Government, Your Excellency the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Mr. Ban Ki-Moon, Distinguished Delegates, Ladies and Gentlemen. Mr. President, Allow me to congratulate you on your election to preside over this august assembly. We are confident that through your stewardship, issues on this 62nd Session agenda be dealt with in a balanced manner and to the satisfaction of all. Let me also pay tribute to your predecessor, Madame Sheikha Haya Rashed Al Khalifa, who steered the work of the 61st Session in a very competent and impartial manner. Her ability to identify the crucial issues facing the world today will be remembered as the hallmark of her presidency. Mr. President, We extend our hearty welcome to the new Secretary-General, Mr. Ban Ki-Moon, who has taken up this challenging job requiting dynamism in confronting the global challenges of the 21st Century. Balancing global interests and steering the United Nations in a direction that gives hope to the multitudes of the poor, the sick, the hungry and the marginalized, is indeed a mammoth task. We would like to assure him that Zimbabwe will continue to support an open, transparent and all-inclusive multilateral approach in dealing with these global challenges. Mr. President, Climate change is one of the most pressing global issues of our time. Its negative impact is greatest in developing countries, particularly those on the African continent. We believe that if the international community is going to seriously address the challenges of climate change, then we need to get our priorities right. In Zimbabwe, the effects of climate change have become more evident in the past decade as we have witnessed increased and recurrent droughts as well as occasional floods, leading to enormous humanitarian challenges. Mr. President, We are for a United Nations that recognises the equality of sovereign nations and peoples whether big or small. We are averse to a body in which the economically and militarily powerful behave like bullies, trampling on the rights of weak and smaller states as sadly happened in Iraq. In the light of these inauspicious developments, this Organisation must surely examine the essence of its authority and the extent of its power when challenged in this manner. Such challenges to the authority of the UN and its Charter underpin our repeated call for the revitalisation of the United Nations General Assembly, itself the most representative organ of the UN. The General Assembly should be more active in all areas including those of peace and security. The encroachment of some U.N. organs upon the work of the General Assembly is of great concern to us. Thus any process of revitalizing or strengthening of the General Assembly should necessarily avoid eroding the principle of the accountability of all principal and subsidiary organs to the General Assembly. Mr. President, Once again we reiterate our position that the Security Council as presently constituted is not democratic. In its present configuration, the Council has shown that it is not in a position to protect the weaker states who find themselves at loggerheads with a marauding super-power. Most
[Ugnet] Belgium wants LRA chief Kony arrested
This is the best assurance I have ever heard from Europe. Kony must and I know will, be arrested. Kaguta will do a Taylor on him, too - no doubt. Belgium wants LRA chief Kony arrested Publication date: Wednesday, 26th September, 2007 Premier Verhofstadt By Felix Osike and Henry Mukasa BELGIUM has called for the arrest and prosecution of the leaders of the Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA). Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt told the UN Security Council on Tuesday that Kony should be arrested and made “an example to all criminals that the exploitation of children in armed conflicts will not be tolerated”. He said Kony was responsible for 70,000 of the 300,000 child soldiers in Africa. “The offenders themselves must be put on trial. An international warrant has been issued for his (Kony’s) arrest and his whereabouts are known. He has spread terror in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Uganda and Southern Sudan,” he stated. The leaders of the 15 member states also heard from Verhofstadt that each of the child soldiers, including a former LRA abductee whom he had adopted, had a personal horror story to tell. “The 14-year-old girl was forced to kill her own uncle and was then given as a present to a commander who raped her. In escaping, she had to shoot one of the guards and was shot herself. In the hospital, it was discovered that she was pregnant. That story is just one of many, and each is a stain on the soul of humanity,” he said. The current “naming and shaming” policy was not enough, the Belgian Prime Minister noted. He proposed that an arms embargo be imposed on all countries that use child soldiers, and that all humanitarian assistance should be suspended. The summit on Peace and Security in Africa was chaired by French President Nicolas Sarkozy. Echoing Verhofstadt’s remarks, Sarkozy said African countries must be categorical about respecting human rights, the rule of law and the need to bring criminals to justice. “In Africa, as elsewhere, murderers should be caught and punished,” he said. Darfur was a prime focus of the discussion, with most speakers stressing the importance of a timely deployment of the AU-UN peacekeeping force. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments.___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] .. roots
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Re: [Ugnet] Mobile library delivers books to remote Venezuela
Ladit Zake, What are you refering to as appropriate "technology"? The mule/ox or the wagon? Was/is slavery a technology? Is the animal or the use of an animal to carry weights be termed "technology". ___ Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children" (NewVision). ICC must not withdraw its indictments. - Original Message From: musamize <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:32:05 PM Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Mobile library delivers books to remote Venezuela Mr. Zake, Thank you for this article. I think Africans need to look at approriate technology that suit and serves their needs. It is not that difficult to train cows & goats to do this. Cows & oxen have been known to pull all sorts of wagons, and even plow fields, in Africa before. And, the cost is just right. Semei Zake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quite an interesting article - Semei http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/6929404.stm Venezuela's four-legged mobile libraries A university in Venezuela is using a novel method to take books into remote communities and encourage people to read. As James Ingham reports, the scheme is proving a great success. The village children love reading the books that the mules bring Enlarge Image Chiquito and Cenizo greet me with a bit of a snort and a flick of the tail. Mules are too tough to bother being sweet. They do a hard job which no other animal or human invention can do as well. But these mules are rather special. They are known as bibliomulas (book mules) and they are helping to spread the benefits of reading to people who are isolated from much of the world around them. My trek started from the Valley of Momboy in Trujillo, one of Venezuela's three Andean states. These are the foothills of the Andes but they are high enough, especially when you are walking. Slow but steady The idea of loading mules with books and taking them into the mountain villages was started by the University of Momboy, a small institution that prides itself on its community-based initiatives and on doing far more than universities in Venezuela are required to do by law. Spreading the joy of reading is our main aim Christina Vieras, project leader Accompanying us was local guide Ruan who knows a thing or two about mules. He was their boss, cajoling them carefully as they started up the hill at a slow-but-steady, no-nonsense plod. The deeply rutted, dry and dusty path snaked its way up. The sun beat on the back of my neck. We were all breathless, apart from Ruan. Diving for books A break came when it was my turn to ride a mule. I enjoyed a great view of the valley but held on tight as Chiquito veered close to the edge. Hot and slightly bothered after two hours, we reached Calembe, the first village on this path. Anyone who was not out working the fields - tending the celery that is the main crop here - was waiting for our arrival. The 23 children at the little school were very excited. "Bibilomu-u-u-u-las," they shouted as the bags of books were unstrapped. They dived in eagerly, keen to grab the best titles and within minutes were being read to by Christina and Juana, two of the project leaders. "Spreading the joy of reading is our main aim," Christina Vieras told me. "But it's more than that. We're helping educate people about other important things like the environment. All the children are planting trees. Anything to improve the quality of life and connect these communities." Internet plans As the project grows, it is using the latest technology. I love reading books and we get told some really nice stories Jose Castillo 12 years old Somehow there is already a limited mobile phone signal here, so the organisers are taking advantage of that and equipping the mules with laptops and projectors. The book mules are becoming cyber mules and cine mules. "We want to install wireless modems under the banana plants so the villagers can use the internet," says Robert Ramirez, the co-ordinator of the university's Network of Enterprising Rural Schools. "Imagine if people in the poor towns in the valley can e-mail saying how many tomatoes they'll need next week, or how much celery. "The farmers can reply telling them how much they can produce. It's blending localisation and globalisation." Local enthusiasm The book mule team played noisy games with the children, listened to them read and lunched with the adults, discussing over a hearty soup and corn bread how the community can develop the scheme. This four-legged mobile library is not just keeping this place alive but m
[Ugnet] Moses Ali, Fungaroo Clash At Funeral
Moses Ali, Fungaroo Clash At Funeral New Vision (Kampala) NEWS 8 August 2007 Posted to the web 9 August 2007 By Dradenya Amazia Kampala LT. Gen. Moses Ali, the vice-chairman of the National Resistant Movement in the north and Forum for Democratic Change's Hassan Kaps Fungaroo, clashed at a funeral service in Moyo district over political pledges. Ali and Fungaroo (MP Obongi county) disagreed at the funeral of the former LC5 chairman, Gray Cherubin Onama at his home in Celecelea East in Moyo town council. Onama was also the district NRM chairman. Fungaroo said Onama would not have died if the Government had equipped Moyo Hospital with X-ray machines and electricity. He said Onama's medical report showed that some of the investigations into his health needed electric power which the hospital lacked. "If we had electricity, according to the medical report, our brother would not have died. Unfulfiled promises must stop," he said. Fungaroo said FDC hoped that NRM leaders would live long enough to see the changes his party would initiate when they take over power. This annoyed Gen. Ali who answered: "I don't know how many years it will take FDC to take over power. I also pray that my son Fungaroo will not die soon so that he can see the years the NRM will rule." "Lack of power cannot cause death. Even if there's power, if you are to die, you will die," Ali said. He said President Yoweri Museveni contributed sh2.5m towards the burial arrangement. In his condolence message, Museveni described Onama as "a champion of the decentralisation policy." Born on August 24, 1952, in Pamoyi, Metu sub-county, Onama is survived by four wives and 16 children. ___ Peter-Rhaina Gwokto Remember: "LRA leader Joseph Kony is named in 12 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. His deputy, Otti, is named in 11 counts for crimes against humanity and 21 counts for war crimes. Alleged crimes include rape, murder, enslavement, sexual enslavement and forced enlisting of children". ICC must not withdraw its indictments.___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet % UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
