Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS very unresponsive after upgrade from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2

2021-02-22 Thread drmatt


Well I can tell you it's not doing system calls while it's hung, it's
purely spinning in user code:


# strace -fp 24410
strace: Process 24410 attached

[..tens of seconds elapse..]

^Cstrace: Process 24410 detached



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS very unresponsive after upgrade from 7.9.1 to 7.9.2

2021-02-22 Thread drmatt


CypherMK wrote: 
> I think this may have solved the freezing issue. Will test further. I
> did enable "rescan refresh" and disabled "enable musicbrainz tags".

What surprises me is just that one plugin is able to lock the whole
server. I didn't expect that to be the case, I thought LMS ran
multi-threaded and individual plugins wouldn't be able to be so evil.

I suppose I should consider myself lucky it only hangs for five minutes,
but then it is a full-phat x86 processor pegged at 100% utilisation, not
a Raspberry Pi.

I'll try turning off the musicbrainz integration piece (in about four
and a half minutes time).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Picoreplayer plays too fast

2019-07-26 Thread drmatt


What's the source file formats and sample rates, and what's your target
DAC model and chipset?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] BETA: piCorePlayer6.0.0 - PI4 support

2019-07-11 Thread drmatt


chill wrote: 
> From 'here'
> (https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1219/how-do-i-determine-the-current-mhz)
> I found:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
  > sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq
  > sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
  > 

> > 
> 
> ...to get maximum CPU frequency under load, minimum CPU frequency at
> idle, and current frequency respectively.
> 
> Mine's currently at 60 (600MHz), since it's at idle, and has a
> maximum of 1.5GHz.  Does it jump straight to 1.5GHz under normal load
> conditions, such that any speed other than 600MHz or 1.5GHz indicates
> that it's trying to run at full speed but is being throttled?  Or does
> it step up gradually from 600MHz according to the amount of load?  If
> the latter, how can you tell if it's throttling or just not under
> enough load to need to go faster?
> 
> I've just applied the firmware update posted 'here'
> (https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28=243500=1490467#p1490467),
> and it's had a noticeable effect.  I'd been logging the CPU
> temperature over night, and it stayed at 59 degrees all night,
> occasionally changing to 60 degrees, but I think that's just the
> precision of the sensor, since the RPi4 wasn't doing anything.  A few
> minutes after rebooting after the firmware update and it's dropped to
> 56 degrees.  That's the 3-5 degrees reduction that was expected for
> the new firmware.
> 
> EDIT: Standing upright, such that the upward airflow is parallel to
> the fins on the heatsink, I'm seeing another couple of degrees drop. 
> It's now steady at 54 degrees at idle.  That's the same temperature as
> another 3B+ I have that's idling inside an official case.  This
> evening I'll mount it in place of my main 3B+ that's inside my
> amplifier chassis, to see what effect that has.  At this point I'm
> quite encouraged by the temperatures.Tbh you'd have to check which governor 
> is in use, there are several and
they all behave slightly differently. Generally it ramps up the speed
quickly but the CPU has to be busy enough to have no idle states between
clock interrupts for the clock speed to step up.

Essentially though, if the cpu remains 100% busy and you are not
sustaining maximum clock speed then it's likely that the firmware has
stepped in to keep the temp down.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] BETA: piCorePlayer6.0.0 - PI4 support

2019-07-08 Thread drmatt


If you can watch the CPU clock speed that will give you an idea of when
the CPU is throttled too.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ANNOUNCE: piCorePlayer 5.0.0

2019-07-02 Thread drmatt


The Pi4 uses the performance oriented A72 arm cores instead of the
efficiency-oriented A53 cores its predecessors used. This means the
thermal envelope is going to be pushed hard. Theoretically they will run
passive cooled just fine but you will experience throttling.

My only concern is heat soak through the rest of the board killing SD
cards. This has happened to me with a pi3 that got stuck in a CPU loop.
Maybe stick to a pi 1...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


(well, one remaining issue, which I don't think is related, is that on a
restart it will hang for a lng time, many minutes, running 100% cpu
with this being the final message in the logs:

[19-05-11 20:40:21.1934] Plugins::TrackStat::Storage::refreshTracks
(1242) TrackStat: Synchronizing TrackStat data, please wait...

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


Well, that was fun.

The answer?

MANY MANY ".dpkg-new" and ".dpkg-tmp" files scattered throughout the
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/ tree. Once I'd trawled through these and renamed
the most recent one to the correct name, LMS is starting up just fine
and running perfectly, with all plugins in place.

Long and short answer: broken DPKG update.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


Don't know if its' relevant but on enabling debug for "server.plugins"
I'm getting lots of:

[19-05-11 17:07:30.8917] Slim::Utils::Strings::string (526) Error:
missing string PLUGIN_FAVORITES_ADD
[19-05-11 17:07:30.8923] Slim::Utils::Strings::string (526) Error:
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


Hmm, so the explanation for port 9090 not working is simple .. the CLI
interface runs as a plugin, and no plugins are currently working .. !

Any ideas on debugging that?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


So on startup I got the following:

2019-05-11 16:52:31 squeezeboxserver_safe started.
[19-05-11 16:52:31.9410] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v7.9.2, 1557550305, Sat May 11 07:16:51 CEST 2019) perl 5.028001 -
i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int
[19-05-11 16:52:32.1993] Slim::Control::Request::execute (1868) Request
in error, returning
[19-05-11 16:52:32.3760] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (576)
Unable to login to SN: Invalid mysqueezebox.com username or password.
[19-05-11 16:52:32.3761] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(185) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Invalid
mysqueezebox.com username or password. (https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[19-05-11 16:52:32.3764] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error
(201) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Invalid mysqueezebox.com
username or password., will retry in 261000
(https://www.mysqueezebox.com)
[19-05-11 16:52:34.1719] Slim::Web::Cometd::handler (422)
errorNeedsClient: 00:04:20:26:3b:cd, status, -, 10, menu:menu,
useContextMenu:1, subscribe:600
[19-05-11 16:55:10.0281] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (131)
Error: Select task failed calling Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP: Can't
call method "findUrl" on an undefined value at
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Web/Pages/Trackinfo.pm line 33.
; fh=Slim::Web::HTTP::ClientConn=GLOB(0x58775fc)
[19-05-11 16:55:34.3103] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1253) Warning:
[16:55:34.3101] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or
string at /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/HTML/Default/cmdwrappers_Default
line 26.
[19-05-11 16:55:34.3106] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1253) Warning:
[16:55:34.3105] Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or
string at /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/HTML/Default/cmdwrappers_Default
line 26.


and now I literally have zero Plugin support. Although plugins still
exist in /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins the
Server Settings page that allows you to select plugins is -blank-,
nothing there at all just the text that says "You can install Plugins
below".. except you can't..

The rest of the files are unchanged, the cache folder contains all my
original plugins, the prefs for those plugins are still there in
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver and so on.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


Yuck. Well, LMS has started, but I'm not happy about the mess of perl
modules all over my box (well, this OS was built nearly 20 years ago and
upgraded ever since, I guess it's time to do a reinstall!), and it looks
like I need to reinstall the skin to get the webserver interface looking
nice again after the LMS upgrade.

So, I kinda trust Debian to do upgrades that keep *debian* alive, but
I'd have to admit there's more and more anciliaries that break each time
I do it ..!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


More perl nonsense:

# /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver
"my" variable $err masks earlier declaration in same scope at
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/AnyEvent/Handle.pm line 1773.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm line
12.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm
line 12.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Player/Client.pm
line 33.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Utils/Alarm.pm
line 48.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Utils/Alarm.pm line 48.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Buttons/Alarm.pm
line 12.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Buttons/Alarm.pm line 12.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm
line 41.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/share/perl5/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 41.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver line 230.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver line
230.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


Well, I found the slimserver-vendor CPAN git libraries and ran
"buildme.sh" and tried to copy in the arch/5.28/i686-.. folder to the
base /usr/lib/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/arch folder.
This works to a point, as root I get this:

# /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver
[19-05-11 15:30:22.6350] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v7.9.2, 1557550305, Sat May 11 07:16:51 CEST 2019) perl 5.028001 -
i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int
[19-05-11 15:30:22.6386] main::changeEffectiveUserAndGroup (1004)
Warning: Logitech Media Server must not be run as root!  Trying user
squeezeboxserver instead.
[19-05-11 15:30:22.6435] Slim::Utils::PluginManager::init (74) Failed to
load plugin downloader: Can't locate Slim/Utils/PluginDownloader.pm:  
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/arch/5.28/i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int/Slim/Utils/PluginDownloader.pm:
Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Slim/Utils/PluginManager.pm line
69.
[19-05-11 15:30:22.7067] main::init (513) Warning: Can't locate
Slim/Networking/SqueezeNetwork.pm:  
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/arch/5.28/i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int/Slim/Networking/SqueezeNetwork.pm:
Permission denied at /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver line 513.


.. so it compiled as root, but when running as "squeezeboxserver" it's
falling over because of really odd permissions down the
/usr/share/perl5/Slim tree.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Upgrading LMS

2019-05-11 Thread drmatt


Hi all,
Can anyone remind me the process for rebuilding LMS for a new perl
release? I wound up with perl 5.28.1 while trying to get something else
working on my i386 server and even the latest nightlies don't seem to
support it yet .. :(
I downloaded from here
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] squeezeboxserver wants older versions of Perl modules

2018-10-06 Thread drmatt


The guys don't always automatically build the latest perl modules for
i386. I'm about the one and only other person on the planet who needs
them. I really, really, need to rebuild my box in 64b mode...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Google Drive mounted with google-drive-ocamlfuse

2018-09-29 Thread drmatt


mherger wrote: 
> > But I can't set LMS music folder directory to it, it's just not
> visible
> > in the drop down directory dialog. Other folders in my /home/user are
> > selectable so I am assuming this is not security.
> 
> The LMS user is not allowed to access your home folder.
> 
> And do you really want to download 1.5 TB of data whenever you do a 
> rescan in LMS? With local data LMS doesn't have to read all of a file, 
> as it can tell the OS to jump to a given position within the file. But 
> with remote files you likely can't.
> 
> -- 
> 
> MichaelI believe most fuse implementations support the usual POSIX command set
so in fact it's likely the necessary seek commands are available.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ANNOUNCE: piCorePlayer 4.0.0

2018-09-17 Thread drmatt


Iirc the transition to "sdxc" occurs at 64GB in size. Can't see how that
would be relevant but just mentioning it ..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ANNOUNCE: piCorePlayer 4.0.0

2018-09-16 Thread drmatt


Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Hi drmatt,
> 
> Funny thing is we have not changed the Resize FS code for a long time,
> so it is weird that it just stops working. :mad:
> 
> Also, when we set the size to a given value it works. Probably if we
> added an option for 63.5GB it would work.
> 
> regards
> GregYes, weird. Is it a units thing? Calculate in GB, resize in MB, that
sort of thing? Some cards wind up causing a rousing error? Might be some
cards that are just fake 64GB cards. I do have a 64GB card kicking
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ANNOUNCE: piCorePlayer 4.0.0

2018-09-15 Thread drmatt


32 bit int being used to calculate the partition size?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ANNOUNCE: piCorePlayer 4.0.0

2018-09-03 Thread drmatt


Ge Ba wrote: 
> But yes, finally the channel I used (ch13) was the issue. Glad I could
> get it solved so fast with you guy's help.

Yes, iirc the Pi built-in wi-fi does not support ch13.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] would like to check PiCorePlayer CPU temp

2018-05-25 Thread drmatt

For what it's worth the Pi processor will clock itself down to avoid
overheating, so it's quite safe to run fanless.

And note that it's unlikely it would ever clock down so far it becomes
unable to run a media streamer as it would essentially have to turn
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Does piCorePlayer 3.22 work on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?

2018-03-14 Thread drmatt

Ooo, nice little upgrade on network bandwidth. PXE boot too, no more
crappy SD cards with a netboot setup.

Buy one anyway, I'm sure PcP will be updated with a suitable kernel
before long. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] 16x2 LCD info for LMS?

2018-03-09 Thread drmatt

Information on LMS state would be queried from the server cli via IP
(e.g "echo command | nc server:9000”).

For other things you'd use vgencmd to get pi temp data, or grab some
code that pulls weather data from an internet service or something. Or
even get a cheap hat/am2320 sensor and measure it live yourself by
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Debian packages update - Possible dpkg failure

2018-03-02 Thread drmatt

I did read that apt does not document its ability to install from files,
but it wouldn't surprise me if the Raspbian version was a few steps
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Debian packages update - Possible dpkg failure

2018-02-22 Thread drmatt

People installing from scratch like this will have the same issue too,
plus many other dependencies.

You can also use:

apt install ./file.dpkg

.. to get apt to install the specific file and resolve deps in one step.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Pi or Pi Zero for player?

2018-02-07 Thread drmatt

Lmgtfy.. https://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/power-consumption ;)

260mA.. i.e. same as a pi zero w plus USB hub, twice as much ram and
four faster cores. FWIW 1.4w equates to approx £1.40 per year in
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Pi or Pi Zero for player?

2018-02-06 Thread drmatt

Imho the only products that make sense are the pi zero w and the pi 3.
The pi zero w adds comms capabilities and the pi 3 costs the same as a
pi 2 (if you can still get one).

By the time you factor the cost of a PSU, SD card, case, and whatever
accessories you need the saving between different pi models looks pretty
pathetic.

>From a power budget POV the pi 3 has higher CPU headroom and can consume
more but it's still pretty efficient when idle.

And I much prefer the built in Ethernet n the full size pi rather than a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Pi or Pi Zero for player?

2018-02-05 Thread drmatt

PiZ: I find the WiFi better than expected - for me it works from the
bottom of the garden to the bottom of the drive, and every room in the
house (and the loft). (Single draytek access point, fwiw.)
Creating an image with pre-configured WiFi to flash onto the SD card is
pretty straightforward too. But the lack of USB means clumsy break out
cables if there's anything you need to connect that way.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Pi or Pi Zero for player?

2018-02-05 Thread drmatt

Lack of proper USB ports is the only downside. Also a bit slower than a
Pi3 would be given the reduced ram and CPU capability but more than
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Xubuntu 14.04 & startup sequence of LMS

2018-01-25 Thread drmatt

Add LSB tags to the init.d script, or fix the links in /etc/rc?.d so it
comes up last, or write a systemd unit file for it that explicitly says
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Xubuntu 14.04 & startup sequence of LMS

2018-01-24 Thread drmatt

The correct solution is to tell systemd that LMS requires network. It
will then start it after it starts the network successfully.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer as time machine drive?

2017-12-30 Thread drmatt

PCP is an excellent LMS server. The hardware is more than adequate for
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer as time machine drive?

2017-12-30 Thread drmatt

Raspberry Pi also makes a mediocre file server. Network and storage both
run over the same USB2 30MB/s bus and the CPU can't even saturate that
if you want to encrypt either stream so performance for secure cifs
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux VMs running on Win10+VMwareWorkstationPro

2017-12-19 Thread drmatt

Which is entirely why I suggested hgfs mount in the first couple of
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux VMs running on Win10+VMwareWorkstationPro

2017-12-13 Thread drmatt

You could use two vmdks... ;)  Yeah I would generally say that's a
better idea than lumping it all in one big image.
You could also get the shared folders stuff working. That will always
consistently mount the same windows content in the same place anytime
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux VMs running on Win10+VMwareWorkstationPro

2017-12-12 Thread drmatt

d6jg wrote: 
> Thats going to result in a very very large VMDK File which I would
> suggest will be impossible to back up as a single entity.
> 
> If the host was Linux and not Windows things would be dead easy,Yes. Or 
> several glued together in an LVM volume group (I wouldn't create
vmdks bigger than 2TB). Back it up from inside the VM if you prefer, you
don't have to back it up as a single entity, it doesn't really matter
how you do it. Rsync it to another machine, copy it to backblaze,
OneDrive, xfsdump, tar, dar, Bacula, Amanda, whatever. That's a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux VMs running on Win10+VMwareWorkstationPro

2017-12-05 Thread drmatt

You can fix #2 by either using "shared folders" in vmware to present
local filesystems to the VM (then mount the hgfs volume inside the VM),
or what I'd probably do is move all the files into the VM anyway, and
have *it* serve them with samba. Then it does indeed become self
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Wireless access point on piCorePlayer?

2017-12-03 Thread drmatt

And of those that do they are not all that reliable.. I've had mixed
experiences running generic consumer chipsets as APs.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Playing Bluetooth audio via piCorePlayer

2017-11-20 Thread drmatt

The author of PCP doesn't think so, istr a thread talking about this
before. Personally, I've never had much success even getting a rpi3 to
remain paired with a Bluetooth keyboard let alone offering anything more
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Playing Bluetooth audio via piCorePlayer

2017-11-20 Thread drmatt

It's a bit of a black art getting the Bluetooth stack to do anything
useful on Linux, so the odds of getting a working Bluetooth audio
receiver in software on a bluetooth-equipped rpi3 is low. So you are
still looking at a secondary Bluetooth receiver with PSU. I recently
swapped a kitchen amp for an all in one class D with Bluetooth, and it
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Playing Bluetooth audio via piCorePlayer

2017-11-20 Thread drmatt

Technically yes (wavinput plugin if you have an audio capture device)
but you may be as well to buy a Bluetooth-enabled amp or active speaker
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Debian package fails to run

2017-11-12 Thread drmatt

bullgod wrote: 
> So why not bundle it up with a single version of perl and save the
> support grief?Bundle the entire perl interpreter? This is the kind of tactic 
> people
have to use for java where it's "write once run nowhere", but perl is
totally compatible you just have to compile the rest.

Perhaps you would be happier with a Sonos setup where you would have a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS on Ubuntu Server 17.10

2017-10-30 Thread drmatt

Sorry, I'm running 32 bit too. Deep down the long list of jobs to
migrate my server to 64 bit.. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Debian package fails to run

2017-10-29 Thread drmatt

Didn't say it was Ubuntu's problem. They upgrade, you have to upgrade.
The LMS already ships with huge blobs of precompiled code supporting
many different versions of perl, that's the main reason it's huge in the
first place. One more required (two if people want i386 aswell).

You are welcome to tell the devs what they have been missing all these
years, or step in to do it yourself...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Debian package fails to run

2017-10-29 Thread drmatt

Well, yeah. Can't prevent Ubuntu from upgrading perl, and you can't ship
LMS with a version of perl embedded that hasn't yet been broadly
released, at least not until it does release anyway.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS not starting after upgrading Ubuntu to 17.10 from 17.04.

2017-10-22 Thread drmatt

If it's perl version then you'll need to build the perl modules from the
LMS sources. There is a procedure for this kicking around somewhere..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] A door chime system for Squeezebox players with PCP 3.22. Or something.

2017-10-07 Thread drmatt

Indeed. Lots of ways to extend an idea like this for all sorts of use
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] A door chime system for Squeezebox players with PCP 3.22. Or something.

2017-10-06 Thread drmatt

Nice. How about sending a URL to a web server with a audio jingle file
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCodePlayer + piZero + justBoomAmp zero poor synch

2017-10-06 Thread drmatt

Let's not get hung up on the percentage value. This is what the people
who write iwconfig have determined is the most meaningful way to report
WiFi connection strength. There are other measures, but anything
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCodePlayer + piZero + justBoomAmp zero poor synch

2017-10-05 Thread drmatt

How's the WiFi signal there? Most likely network issues. Have you capped
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running 2 different external DACs from the same Pi using piCorePlayer

2017-10-01 Thread drmatt

Well I had assumed the DACs were self powered, but that's true if they
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running 2 different external DACs from the same Pi using piCorePlayer

2017-10-01 Thread drmatt

muggo wrote: 
> 
> I'll give it a try using the current USB feed from Pi to DAC #1 into DAC
> #2.  I can mess around with settings in UI if required.  If that works,
> I'll try both together.  If that fails, I'll have to get another Pi,
> unless I can get advice on how & what to do at the shell prompt.
> I don't need anything sophisticated.  Just the ability to drive 2 DACS
> (1 at a time) from the same Pi.
> Cheers
> Paul

The two DACs will not work together without explicit coding in the OS,
they will be seen as totally separate devices even if you put them on
the same hub. That's why your choices are either to
a) configure a second virtual squeezebox player (aka squeezelite) that
is explicitly configured to use the second sound device, or to
b) hack the alsa sound drivers to create a virtual "bridged" sound
device that actually sends audio data to both real devices underneath,
and *then* configure your squeezelite process to talk to the virtual
bridged driver instead of either of the physical drivers underneath..

Very much simpler to do the first option, and there's howtos such as the
one linked above for you to follow too. As you say you can always buy
another pi too, which may well give you more flexibility in the long
term anyway. (Headphone amp nearer to sitting position, for example.)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running 2 different external DACs from the same Pi using piCorePlayer

2017-09-30 Thread drmatt

Well, doesn't matter really you could call it a separate stream and
leave the two virtual players permanently synced anyway. From what I
recall to add a second audio output from PcP you would need to make
changes at the shell prompt, I'm not sure there's configuration for that
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running 2 different external DACs from the same Pi using piCorePlayer

2017-09-30 Thread drmatt

To play a different stream, we assume...?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer without network

2017-09-18 Thread drmatt

It is normal for a UNIX system to require an operating 127.0.0.1 address
and TCP/IP stack for normal running. Windows is the same, as are 90% of
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] WiFi USB dongle

2017-09-06 Thread drmatt

Anything by a brand will do; it's on a USB 2 bus so anything over
~300Mbit is pointless. I have a pihut one and a edimax one. They've both
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer + usb hd

2017-09-05 Thread drmatt

Everyone has their right price/performance compromise. As the price
creeps up you're heading towards Intel NUC territory and genuine
hardware x86 processors. Hell, you can pick up a Celeron based HP
microserver with four 6gb sata 3.5" drive bays, two gig-e ports and a
bunch of USB3 for £120. No arm server is going to beat that for function
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer + usb hd

2017-09-03 Thread drmatt

I would stick to a proper NAS, for use as a NAS. A raspberry pi will
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer + usb hd

2017-09-03 Thread drmatt

d6jg wrote: 
> Personally I think using a USB is a retrograde step. The Pi's USB
> implementation is probably its weakest point. I predict issues where the
> USB drive just disappears for no apparent reason. I'd stick with a
> network mount. A NAS is going to be far more resilient unless it is
> either very old or very cheap.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk.. and all of a Pi's I/O hangs off that USB 
> bus .. and even plugging in
a gigabit USB port on a USB 2 seems somewhat pointless.

A Pi is not a good server. Convenient, very, but it's no file server.
Banana Pi is much better (PCI linked gig-e and SATA, but even that still
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer + usb hd

2017-09-03 Thread drmatt

Except .. most USB HDD go to sleep pretty aggressively so the latency on
spin up (particularly for high platter count drives) can be in the
region of 6-8 seconds. Would bet the qnap will manage this better than a
USB HDD firmware does. Network latency should add relatively little to
the transaction. Second I would bet the qnap performs better. Most USB
HDD are optimised for streaming not IOPs (as backup drives) so I'd say
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS stop/start/restart on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - how to do it without root password?

2017-09-01 Thread drmatt

It's a fair question. Quite often the PID of a Daemon is tracked in
/var/run/thingy and changing the PID of the process without using the
official start/stop scripts means they lose track of which process to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS stop/start/restart on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - how to do it without root password?

2017-09-01 Thread drmatt

Systemd uses logind to create a cgroup for the whole shebang, so it
keeps track of all the process and child processes that get spawned by
the start script. The stop/start actions will still work as they are
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Allo BossMini Player

2017-08-31 Thread drmatt

Pretty sure you can buy all the bits already, but they just cost more..!
Even if you buy it off the website in $US and ship to the US, you would
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Allo BossMini Player

2017-08-31 Thread drmatt

You've obviously never tried to get stuff into the country.. there is
usually a £10 or £15 handling fee for the shipping agent to deal with
customs charges, which goes on top of the duty (not sure on the rate,
but could be 5% of total cost), plus Vat on top (17.5%), makes about
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Using Jivelite standalone and mixed Success using USB devices with 3.11

2017-08-29 Thread drmatt

vfat is the name of the Microsoft FAT filesystem driver in Linux kernel
that supports non-8.3 filenames. Sounds like your USB devices have
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS on ARM Goflex Home with Debian 9 Start Error

2017-08-04 Thread drmatt

It's also gonna be pretty slow I would say. But agree with the above
guys, you need to build the full perl blob for your architecture. I've
done it on x86 and it took half an hour or so; on there it might take
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Persistent network mount possible?

2017-07-29 Thread drmatt

edwin2006 wrote: 
> More than 4 day's working now. I've now added 1 boom playing internet
> radio. So in total 1x pcp, 1x radio and 1x boom connected to LMS pi. No
> network changes due to family veto this weekend.Sheesh do you have to submit 
> change requests to the family to work on
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Persistent network mount possible?

2017-07-24 Thread drmatt

Windows clients always transparently reconnect on bad links by the way,
they hide the failure from view. I don't have any further experience at
home, my servers are all Linux and I only have windows as client. In the
past I've not had the issue you mention however.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Persistent network mount possible?

2017-07-23 Thread drmatt

But others can mount windows shares without drops.. I can. It's just a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Persistent network mount possible?

2017-07-23 Thread drmatt

Simple answer: mount the Nas to the windows box and you have a single
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Persistent network mount possible?

2017-07-23 Thread drmatt

Two things. What distro on the pi and how did you setup the cifs mount?
Typically a cifs mount involves you storing the password in the fstab.
If you do this it will always reconnect after any network glitch. If you
don't do this, it will not reconnect after a reboot, but should still
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS stop/start/restart on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - how to do it without root password?

2017-07-11 Thread drmatt

Your user account would normally already be in sudoers file after an
Ubuntu install so you should be able to do "sudo service LMS restart"
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has anybody tried one of these yet ?

2017-07-05 Thread drmatt

I thought its audio was "good enough" for non-critical listening until I
tried a genuine Logitech Squeezebox in the same system and I'd never go
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has anybody tried one of these yet ?

2017-07-05 Thread drmatt

O2 joggler are awful in my experience. Slow and unreliable. And fgs
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Vortexbox suspending when laptop lid closed

2017-06-29 Thread drmatt

What desktop environment *is* running? There will be a power options
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PCP3.2 - Need to inject sound from aplay while squeezelite runs

2017-06-19 Thread drmatt

jackd might be able to do that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoreplayer Raspberry Pi 2 to 3

2017-06-18 Thread drmatt

Early pi2 kernels did not include support for Pi3 hardware (including
the CPU itself!) but that was ages ago now, you shouldn't have issues.

Good news is the one huge difference you will note is that the Pi3 is
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

I was looking forward to having a separate 5ghz WiFi at home, then I
noticed it doesn't go through walls as well as 2.4ghz... and now I find
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

Well that's on the assumption that all the Pi are wired. Maybe I missed
that statement. The LMS server would be sending 9 times that stream out,
which still isn't much in reality I agree, about 7 Mbit/s.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

Lame encoding a single stream for a single group of players will run
fine on a Pi. If you want separate streams all separately encoded then
you might run into trouble. I might suggest setting a bandwidth limit on
the SB3 to force stepping down the bitrate when it joins the group. Then
unsync that one and LMS will drop back to sending flac everywhere.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

s2kiwi wrote: 
> I'm not sure I understand that comment on the software stack vs
> hardware...
> 
> Do you meant that (ignoring the SB3) running Squeezelite on the Pi's
> means they will all appear to the server as being able to handle
> basically anything... and the Pi will handle any codec downgrading
> needed? Meaning all the other PI's will still play at the better
> quality?
> 
> Or will they present the soundcard limitation back to the server and
> it'll downgrade everything.
> 
> (sorry for the n00b Q's)
Ok fair question. To provide more details;

- the software (squeezelite) is the same on all the Pis so they all
offer the same file formats natively supported.
- the different hardware DACs only restricts the maximum sample rate and
bits-per-sample. I.e. 96khz/24bit. All will be more than capable of
playing CD audio uncompressed (44k/16b).

So when you sync them all LMS will find the lowest common denominator
of:
- the source file or stream's format, resolution and bitrate
- each player's supported format, resolution and bitrate.

The default is for LMS to provide the raw source to all players
unmodified, assuming that all players have told it they can play that
format, resolution and bitrate. End points won't do resampling or
transcoding, LMS will produce ONE stream for the whole group in whatever
format, resolution and bitrate drops out of the above process.

As I said, the wildcard is the SB3. Does it support MP3 or flac? I don't
remember. If not you may find LMS being forced to stream full rate PCM
audio to all players at the same time. You can do the maths on that!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-12 Thread drmatt

Codec support on the Pis depends on the software stack not hardware, and
the SB3 is likely to be your limiting factor in terms of codec support
anyway.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] RPi Zero W Service running but no web interface

2017-06-08 Thread drmatt

I don't recall raspbian having a firewall enabled by default, but I
would suspect the server has not successfully started.

A) check the LMS log file (tail it)
B) check the port: fuser 9000/tcp


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Manual install of Squeezelite fails

2017-05-04 Thread drmatt

He's not wrong, the CPU is native 64 bit so you may as well use it that
way. Virtual address spaces for badly written software can still take
advantage even if you don't actually have more than 4GB physical ram
plus swap.

I suspect that you'd wind up supporting both for an extended period,
however. :(

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Manual install of Squeezelite fails

2017-05-04 Thread drmatt

I have had similar on a banana pi running binaries built for raspberry
pi. The ARM abi has to match. You will probably have to grab sources and
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Manual install of Squeezelite fails

2017-05-04 Thread drmatt

"file " at the shell prompt will tell you exactly what you downloaded.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Manual install of Squeezelite fails

2017-05-04 Thread drmatt

Sourceforge is usually sources not binaries.. (the clue is in the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Two USB DAC initialisation problems

2017-03-09 Thread drmatt

I would agree with you, but I'd be guessing as to what the exact cause
is. I've seen devices behave like this before, and it's very much
device-specific. Unless you can show that Alsa is kicking off a stream
and sending garbage I would definitely think it's the DAC driver.

As a general comment I might look at jackd as a way of insulation
against hot plug or live sound device changes. It should be able to
provide a virtual default sound output path that you can then redirect
to whatever physical audio output eventually becomes ready.

However, kicking off squeezelite from udev might also be pretty
effective and would potentially support multiple independent audio
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Two USB DAC initialisation problems

2017-03-09 Thread drmatt

Based on what OS, kernel, and software stack?

The udev system should handle initialisation of the DAC if it's plugged
in post boot. You should at least see a kernel log message when the DAC
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-03-01 Thread drmatt

Frankly I don't have issues with pi3 WiFi, but acknowledge it's not the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PCP3.11 Pi Model B USB DAC Arcam IRDAC II issues

2017-02-26 Thread drmatt

The USB bus does also run all connectivity, ethernet included. Could be
that. But I would say it would struggle to resample high bitrate media
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer with Jivelite on Pollin Touch TFT

2017-02-22 Thread drmatt

Iirc piCorePlayer has most of its filesystem in ram to save SD card
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-02-09 Thread drmatt

kidstypike wrote: 
> Depends what you change, I've just changed an album incorrectly tagged
> k.d. Lang to k.d. lang and did a "look for new and changed" scan.
> 
> Under new music I now have this album listed as being by "Various
> Artists". If I click on k.d. Lang (the original incorrect name) it is
> empty. The new correct name lists all tracks. Only a "clear and rescan "
> will fix this.

I thought it handled this now. I would say this is a bug.. but no idea
how hard it is to reinsert this data without dropping the db and
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-02-09 Thread drmatt

Easytag is not fully automatic, it gives you the ability to calculate
the cddb disc id from a directory full of files (assumed to be a single
album) then do a lookup. It's up to you to choose the right match. It's
quite powerful and can fill tags from filenames or name files from tags
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCore 3.10 linux - how to ignore cec

2017-02-08 Thread drmatt

Normally /boot/config.txt.

I have a gaming console version of raspbian that trigger HDMI input
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-02-02 Thread drmatt

It only checks on mount for journalled filesystems, and this is not a
full check it's just a replay of the log. and many USB drives are
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-31 Thread drmatt

merlinus wrote: 
> Update:  The RPi can connect only at 2.4G, but at least it is working!
Nothing wrong with 2.4 GHz. Range is better than 5 GHz. It's just a bit
crowded for some people. As others have said, also avoid chan 12/13, the
pi wifi does not support it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread drmatt

Ok I think we are getting away from the point a little here.

A couple of things: init.d still works, systemd is required to run
non-compliant init.d scripts just like before. Unless someone has
modified the LMS startup to deliberately bolt into systemd then its
behaviour will still be dictated by the presence or otherwise of files
in init.d.

Second Telnet is more a generic TCP connection method than a terminal.
If port 9000 responds to your web browser, it will respond to telnet. If
it doesn't respond to telnet you are pretty sure there's nothing
listening on port 9000.

Something of course changed, but you need to get a log of a failed LMS
startup to debug it.

Fwiw my Debian OS on my server has been continuously upgraded since
around 2004, through numerous hardware upgrades and I've never had to
even consider a fresh install. (There are orphaned config files from a
decade ago, seriously. I know, I should clean up, but I now wear this
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread drmatt

(I believe LMS_safe is the parent script that kicks off the main
daemons. It's what you might see in the process table if LMS main thread
fails to start. I've seen this a few times when I was fighting Perl
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