Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU Digest, Vol 161, Issue 1 - Possible Topics...
Since I started what is now OpenWest, I'll chime in here and echo what Justin said. You definitely should and can talk about whatever you'd like. In past years, I've seen talks about conduct, diversity, etc. Talking about imposter syndrome would be a great topic in my opinion, so I hope you submit. Cheers, herlo On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Justin Carmonywrote: > My experience with OpenWest (I've helped organize it in the past, but > haven't directly been involved in talk selection) is it's like a technical > speaker potluck. They accept a huge range of subjects. > > What I would do is submit 4-6 talks on a wide range of subjects you'd like > to speak on (they ask how many total talks you're willing to give so you > don't get all 6 accepted), and the community voting is the primary > mechanism they use to determine what talks to accept. > > The only thing I wouldn't do is submit subjects you're not eager to speak > on. :) > > Justin > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Stephen Godfrey > wrote: > > > I've never been to the Openwest conference. And looking through the site > > all the topics are relate almost specifically to hardware, software, and > > development. > > > > Though I develop applications for clients, I like talking about softer > > skills such as Imposter Syndrome (I'm on draft 2 of my book!), > Freelancing, > > and workflows. Do you think that any of these topics have a place at > > openwest? > > > > Stephen > > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > > > > > Send UPHPU mailing list submissions to > > > uphpu@uphpu.org > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > uphpu-requ...@uphpu.org > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > uphpu-ow...@uphpu.org > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of UPHPU digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > >1. OpenWest 2018 - Call For Papers (Victor Villa) > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 14:53:54 -0700 > > > From: Victor Villa > > > Subject: [UPHPU] OpenWest 2018 - Call For Papers > > > To: Utah PHP Users Group Discuss > > > Message-ID: > > > > > mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > > > OpenWest 2018 - Call For Papers > > > > > > ** 11th Annual OpenWest Conference > > > > > > Call for Papers open until January 31st > > > > > > The OpenWest Conference is one of the best Open Source conferences > where > > > community members from around the western U.S. come together to learn > and > > > share information about the latest trends and technologies in > > development, > > > system administration, and more. > > > > > > We know speakers are key to the success of a conference and hope you > will > > > submit a talk. In appreciation of your efforts, our speaker > compensation > > > package includes: > > > * Full conference pass (excluding tutorials) > > > * For speakers remote to the Area: > > > + Complimentary airfare/travel (according to conference policy) > > > + 3 complimentary hotel nights (additional hotel night for speakers > > > presenting a tutorial) > > > * Receptions and activities included in regular conference > > > ** https://cfp.openwest.org/ > > > > > > > > > ** Speaker Mentoring > > > > > > Not everybody feels comfortable with speaking, Please don't let that > stop > > > you from submitting your name to speak at the conference. We are > > starting > > > a speaker mentoring program to help everybody to become better > speakers. > > > > > > Steps: > > > 1. Submit your speaking idea at https://cfp.openwest.org > > > 2. Email us at mentor...@utos.org > > > (mailto:mentor...@utos.org?subject=IMPORTANT%20%3A% > > 20Speaker%20Mentoring) > > > and we'll work with you! > > > > > > v > > > > > > > > > ** Blind community voting > > > > > > > > > We use blind community voting as the main factor in deciding which > > speakers > > > to invite. Other factors include the number of talks per topic, travel > > > cost, and the number of talks submitted by that speaker. We do NOT take > > > into consideration gender, race, religion, or sexual orientation. > > > > > > > > > ** Code of Conduct > > > > > > > > > We are also committed to ensuring the conference is a place where ideas > > are > > > exchanged, old friends get
Re: [UPHPU] unsubscribe me, thanks, moved
Hi Todd, Do you see the link below? Yes, that link! You can use it to unsubscribe yourself. :) Cheers, herlo On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Todd Ogryzlowrote: > Hi all, loved the service but I have moved > All the best!!! > > > ___ > > UPHPU mailing list > UPHPU@uphpu.org > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu ^^ THIS LINK ^^^ > > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Laptops!
Ken, Unfortunately, that only works if you are in the Inbox. If you are already in a label, it doesn't work. At least it never has for me. I love that feature though. herlo On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Ken Snyder kendsny...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail protip: You can move an email thread (including all future email messages under the thread) to Archive by clicking Mute under the More button. It is a fantastic tool for mailing lists. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Clint Savage her...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, You can remove yourself by clicking the link at the bottom of the signature of this very email. I don't think many have the power to remove you, but you do. Cheers, herlo On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Steve Lloyd steve.ll...@gmail.com wrote: Fine, how do you feel about a religious discussion? What are your thoughts on abortion or gay marriage? Should women in the workforce get paid the same as men? Who should we vote for this coming election? Since it seems that this list is for any topic of interest to Utah PHP users then I imagine that we could start a discussion about pretty much anything. Please remove me from this list. I thought it was a list of people interested in learning PHP and expanding their PHP skills. My mistake. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Lonnie Olson li...@kittypee.com wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Steve Lloyd steve.ll...@gmail.com wrote: OK guys/gals, I hate to be the one that breaks up the party but this laptop thread has NOTHING to do with PHP. We all have our opinions about what hardware is best. If it is a PHP question I welcome it but lets keep true to the group, ok? Otherwise, please remove me from this list. I get enough spam already. This list is for the community of PHP users in Utah. It is not a strictly PHP related list. It is for any topic interesting to PHP users. Based on the number of responses it seems very interesting to PHP users. If you don't like a particular topic you can use your existing mail tools to mute or otherwise filter a particular topic you are not interested in. If you still want to unsubscribe you can use the web link appended at the bottom of *every* email that is sent to the list. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Beer Code SLC
It only picks up if people attend, this means you! :D On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:58 PM, James Guymon jguy...@progrexion.com wrote: I'm in if this picks up -Original Message- From: uphpu-boun...@uphpu.org [mailto:uphpu-boun...@uphpu.org] On Behalf Of Matt Anderton Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:16 PM To: Evan Johnson Cc: UPHPU List Subject: Re: [UPHPU] Beer Code SLC YES! On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Evan Johnson thaddeu...@gmail.com wrote: One of my favorite meetups when I lived in Omaha was Beer Code. The premise is simple: drink some beer (if you want) and write some code (if you want). Completely informal, just a chance to get out of the house, enjoy a tasty beverage, meet some fellow coders, and maybe even write some code. I would like to see if I can get the same thing going here in Utah. If both beer code are interesting to you head over to the Wasatch Brew Pub in Sugarhouse https://www.wasatchbeers.com/brewpubs-sl.aspx on Tuesday, March 31st http://beercodeslc.tumblr.com/post/114682271157/beer-code-slc-1 (the last day of March). (I welcome suggestions for future dates and locations, fyi). We will have a flag, and also we will probably be the only folks with laptops out. If you want the heads up on future meetups Tumblr http://beercodeslc.tumblr.com/, Twitter https://twitter.com/beercodeslc , Facebook https://www.facebook.com/beercodeslc or Meetup.com http://www.meetup.com/uptimeSLC/. Cheers! Evan @thaddeusmt ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Turning the User Group on Its Head - uptimeSLC
I wanted to invite you to participate in uptimeSLC, a new concept for a user group. We're already setup with a meetup account[1], a website[2], a venue[3], and a mailing list[4]. We'll be having an introductory meeting on February 17, 2015 @ 7pm. This meeting will explain the concept of uptimeSLC, and allow us to explore concepts and ideas you would like to see in this new user group. We'll have ice cream, root beer, and geeks like you ready to talk about cool technology. When / Where - February 17, 2015 @ 7pm Corporate Partnership Center, Room 333 @ SLCC Miller Campus 9750 South 300 West, Sandy, UT 84070 Google Map: https://goo.gl/maps/MQr5f Campus Map: http://www.slcc.edu/locations/miller-campus.aspx We'd love to see you there with ideas and concepts. Even if you don't have any suggestions, come down and find out what others are thinking would be great to dig into! Please take a moment visit the site, join up, and spread the word about uptimeSLC! Cheers, herlo 1 - http://meetup.com/uptimeSLC/ 2 - http://uptimeSLC.org 3 - http://uptimeslc.org/meetings.html 4 - uptimeslc-l...@meetup.com ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Reminder: slc.nerdlun.ch - This Thursday
Hi all, Just a quick reminder that slc.nerdlun.ch is THIS THURSDAY @ 11:45 It'll be held Thursday, June 26 @ Moochies Meatballs in Midvale. We'll be there from 11:45am until about 1:15pm. Map: http://goo.gl/maps/q5ErB See you soon! Cheers, herlo Nerd Lunch has a twitter account: https://twitter.com/nerd_lunch - Follow Us! Nerd Lunch has a website @ http://nerdlun.ch Please sign up for our slc_nerd_lu...@googlegroups.com email list below to keep in the Nerdy Lunch loop. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] slc.nerdlun.ch - June 26 @ Moochies in Midvale
Hi all, The June slc.nerdlun.ch will be held on Thursday, June 26 @ Moochies Meatballs in Midvale. We'll be there from 11:45am until about 1:15pm. Map: http://goo.gl/maps/q5ErB We now have a twitter account: https://twitter.com/nerd_lunch - Follow Us! See you soon! Cheers, herlo ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Resurrecting the Geek Lunch -- Introducing SLC Nerd Lunch
Since I left New Zealand in 2001, I've only had one good Doner Kebab. I'm hoping you all will want to attend and talk nerdy over a yummy lunch. We'll gather together at 12:15 and everyone pays their own way. Then we'll hang out and discuss whatever cool tech, nerdy things and of course Ingress. We're starting small, hoping things will take off again. If you are in Utah County, don't worry, there will be some activity down your way as well. I should be wearing my Tardis t-shirt (if you don't know what that is, look it up) and my Fedora hoodie. See you there! Where: 35 E Broadway Salt Lake City, Utah 84111 http://www.spitzslc.com/ Cheers, herlo For more information about our events, visit https://groups.google.com/group/slc_nerd_lunch or check out the Utah Tech Events calendar on Google for updates. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Resurrecting the Geek Lunch -- Introducing SLC Nerd Lunch
Lol, I think I forgot to put that on there. It would be Friday, January 24th. I had it on the Utah Tech Events calendar and copied it straight from there. :) Thanks for the catch. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Colton Myers colton.my...@gmail.comwrote: What day? -- Colton Myers On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Clint Savage her...@gmail.com wrote: Since I left New Zealand in 2001, I've only had one good Doner Kebab. I'm hoping you all will want to attend and talk nerdy over a yummy lunch. We'll gather together at 12:15 and everyone pays their own way. Then we'll hang out and discuss whatever cool tech, nerdy things and of course Ingress. We're starting small, hoping things will take off again. If you are in Utah County, don't worry, there will be some activity down your way as well. I should be wearing my Tardis t-shirt (if you don't know what that is, look it up) and my Fedora hoodie. See you there! Where: 35 E Broadway Salt Lake City, Utah 84111 http://www.spitzslc.com/ Cheers, herlo For more information about our events, visit https://groups.google.com/group/slc_nerd_lunch or check out the Utah Tech Events calendar on Google for updates. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Utah Python User Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to utahpython+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to utahpyt...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/utahpython. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Utah Python User Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to utahpython+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to utahpyt...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/utahpython. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] December Meeting, Venue Changes, and Presentors!
I would like heat and to not cross the purity curtain (aka point of the mountain) into happy valley. :) But seriously, moving further south is probably okay as long as it's not much past thanksgiving point! Cheers, Clint On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jonathan Duncan jonat...@bluesunhosting.com wrote: On 12 Dec 2012, at 13:48, Jason Feriante wrote: I think Vivint has an office at thanksgiving point (or nearby); someone just needs to talk to Mac or Wade about getting it arranged. I have a fairly large tent. If we find a open space somewhere we could probably all fit in it. I could probably even find a generator and some power strips for our laptops. If we pitch next to a business we could probably hack into the WiFi. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] monitoring servers
Heh, I highly suggest Munin. It's pricetag is much lower than splunk (although I do like splunk overall, it's a bit of a resource and $$ hog). Munin is kind of like cacti but much easier to setup and can track many many things like memory spikes, disk resources, etc. Cheers, Clint On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:53 AM, William Attwood wattw...@gmail.com wrote: Splunk On Jul 19, 2011 11:52 AM, Steve Dibb bean...@gentoo.org wrote: Hey guys, So this is off-topic from PHP in general, but I know there's sysadmins on here too, so maybe you guys can help me out. :) I had a server go down this morning :sadface:, and looking at the logs from monit, something happened to suddenly spike the CPU and suck up all the RAM. These just popped up out of the blue: [MDT Jul 19 07:53:39] error : 'localhost' cpu system usage of 54.7% matches resource limit [cpu system usage30.0%] [MDT Jul 19 07:53:45] error : 'localhost' swap usage of 100.0% matches resource limit [swap usage25.0%] [MDT Jul 19 07:53:51] error : 'localhost' mem usage of 98.5% matches resource limit [mem usage75.0%] I can tell it wasn't gradual buildup of cpu/swap/memory usage, since this was the first alert, and monit runs every 2 minutes. So, I assume something happened to spike the server and bring everything down. I've got two questions -- how do you guys usually go about monitoring this stuff? Monit can check the system general usage, but how do I know which applications are doing that? My second question is, where in the world do you start to diagnose something like this? Looking at the system and apache logs, it looks like everything just STOPPED. There's no red flags that I can see, so I'm having a hard time diagnosing it. Thanks guys, any help is appreciated. Steve ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] jsp on apache
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:44 AM, thebigdog big...@venticon.com wrote: On 5/25/11 9:39 AM, Merrill Oveson wrote: phpers: I know this is a php list, but I also know this list also has a number of great web programmers in all languages Interested in learning jsp. The problem is jsp won't run using just apache. As I understand it: I have to install Tomcat - then link them together. It seems this solution is complicated. Or Install JRun (which is a plugin for Apache?) - I couldn't find very good instructions for this. Is there a simple way to get Apache to run jsp? thoughts? If you are wanting to learn jsp then run tomcat or another servlet container. There are many out there that you can choose from, check here for a list of possible ones that you can use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Servlet_containers Now there are some reasons to have apache front your servlet container; however, for what you are doing, you probably dont need that right now. If you want to use apache in front of a container then you will want to look at mod_jk or even just a standard proxy. Again, this might be overkill for what you are doing. My recommendations for learning...get a light weight container like tomcat or even jetty and go from there. Thanks, -- thebigdog Might I suggest the Utah Java User Group mailing list? There are hundreds of Java experts over there and they can probably help you *much* faster. http://ujug.org for more details. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Meeting location change?
I would also be interested in coworking there on the day of the meetings. Joseph, I can ask on behalf of the Utah Python folks too, since C7DC also asked if their meetings could be held at Center 7's Data Center. Cheers, Clint On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Joseph Scott jos...@josephscott.org wrote: At the risk of asking for more when they have already been so kind, if C7 were to make room for co-working on the day of the meeting I'd likely be able to be there for co-working as well. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Justin Carmony jus...@justincarmony.com wrote: Even though it puts me father away, I'm already traveling, and I'll probably just come down earlier that day and co-work somewhere and then go to the meeting. If it is to help get more south of the salt lake area to come, I'm totally +1 -- Joseph Scott jos...@josephscott.org http://josephscott.org/ ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] website changes
Wade, I concur. It might be easier to actually just move uphpu to a google group or something which basically handles all of this stuff and makes it easier for the current president to quickly and easily make changes to the group data. For instance, utahpython.org is a google group and has a simple front page with the latest info about the group and its meeting times. Probably the only big issue is whether migrating the old mailing list data is worth the effort or just have the old archives be linked to in some fashion. Cheers, Clint On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Wade Preston Shearer wadeshearer.li...@me.com wrote: Group, I am considering replacing the current website with a single page. It would describe the group, provide meeting information (including a summary of the next upcoming), provide IRC and mailing list information (including a sign-up form), and recent job announcements (including a form for submitting new opportunities). This would make it easier for people to find the content they are looking for and get rid of the rest of the clutter. I don't think the posts are providing much value (we haven't had an article posted that wasn't about a meeting or group administration since March and the last comment not by an admin was left almost a year ago). I think that people simply need to know what the group is, what we do, where to sign up, what the next meeting is about, and where to meet. Any thoughts? Wade ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Androids and Tethering
https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- doesn't work for my galaxy s phone, but I hear others have had success. Maybe you will too... Cheers, Clint On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Brandon Stout b...@mscis.org wrote: Okay, I switched networks to Sprint, and got the HTC Evo. I should have mentioned before that my desktop OS is Linux of the openSUSE variety. I didn't realize I'd need pdanet client software on the desktop, so I'm still not tethered, and I'll be working on that later, after a couple big assignments are out of the way. I'll keep looking for other tethering solutions. Any suggestions from any Linux users out there? Until then, I thought of something cool to share. I have a new way to get a favorite Linux distribution: 1. Download entire DVD ISO file to huge flash memory on phone at 4g speeds while away. 2. Transfer to desktop when home. Swt. My phone is 5 times as powerful as my first pentium laptop was. Okay y'all, go back to your PHP'ing. Thank you, Brandon Stout http://flfn.org On 10/19/2010 01:35 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: Technically, pdanet does beat the system, but V is aware of it and it doesn't affect their bottom line really, so they let it slide. There are people on the forum who use 5 gigs of bandwith a month on rooted phones and V hasn't said boo to them, so ymmv. Ash On 10/19/2010 1:19 PM, Brandon Stout wrote: On 10/19/2010 01:00 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: Oh, one thing about the X though, it is a battery hog. I don't leave on any of the wireless stuff except 3g, which is not easy to turn off, but I need to charge it daily, sometimes twice daily if I turn on GPS, bluetooth, and wifi. Ash On 10/19/2010 12:54 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: I have the droid X and it is awesome. Does so much stuff that I never knew I needed. You can root it pretty easily, but I haven't done it yet, because I'm kinda nervous that Big red V might come down on rooters. Your only choices for tethering are to root the phone, or use pdanet for corded or btooth if you don't want to root your phone, or pay the $ to V every month for cordless hotspot. There is a really active forum at http://www.droidforums.net/ They can help you, and have sticky posts about this very topic. Ash Thank you Ashley. That's a cool forum that'll keep me busy for a while now. Sounds like pdanet is a good choice since it'll keep the battery charged and I can get what I want without having to beat the system, or at least it looks that way. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net -- Thank you, Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] UTOSC 2010: Early Bird Registration ends TODAY!!
PRICES GO UP TOMORROW!! The Utah Open Source Conference 2010, held October 7-9, 2010 Early Bird registration will end tonight, September 25 @ midnight and prices will increase by 30%. Visit http://attend.utosc.com to register TODAY Discount codes are available in many places, including twitter and identi.ca (follow the user @utos). We also provide promo codes to Local User Groups, our sponsors, exhibitors and UTOS core team members. With over over 50 conference presentations and several events — including: Ignite Salt Lake, LaunchUP and Geek Dinner — UTOSC 2010 has tons of exciting, educational and fun presentations, events and much, much more. Missed the deadline? Not to fret! If you missed the deadline for Early Bird registration, there are still ways you can get in for cheap or free. * Volunteer If you are interested in volunteering at the Utah Open Source Conference 2010, please send an email to enl...@utos.org. * Watch our blog, twitter, identi.ca and facebook for 1-day promo codes and free give-aways in the coming weeks. Get registered today! Visit http://attend.utosc.com. See you in October! ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] hackUTOS 2.0 is just two days away
-- Forwarded message -- From: Clint Savage her...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:47 PM Subject: hackUTOS 2.0 is just two days away To: UTOS Announce List annou...@utos.org hackUTOS 2.0 is this Saturday, August 21, 2010 from 10am to 4pm (9am for early birds and 5pm for late birds) and is sponsored and hosted by TenX Networks[1]. If you don't already know, hackUTOS isn't all about programming. -- It's about working on a project that you otherwise may not have time. -- It's about learning a new technology by joining others -- It's about networking with other smart people who like to create stuff -- It's about junk food during up to 8 hours of hacking on your favorite stuff! -- It's about being able to sit in a corner and focus on your project without interruption -- It's about providing the best open source software hacking space Some of the projects that came out of last hackUTOS (1.0): -- Wheresmysoda.com -- a site dedicated to providing locations or best price of your favorite soda -- ConMan - an ongoing project for conference management -- Metasploit - penetration testing application TenX networks has some awesome space out by the airport. They've been out there for a few years with a huge space! The gang there is really, really excited to meet everyone who will be at hackUTOS 2.0. Come on down this Saturday and hang out with other geeks. We'll provide you space to hack, snacks, lunch and plenty of projects to come and learn! Saturday, August 21, 10am-4pm (early bird and late bird is open from 9-5) TenX Networks (map: http://sn.im/tenxnetworks-map) 4855 Wiley Post Way Salt Lake City, UT 84116 See you all there! Clint Savage Chief Executive, Utah Open Source Foundation 1 - http://tenxnetworks.com/ ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] UTOSC 2010 Call for papers extended through August 1st!
Time goes by quickly, so quickly in fact that top priorities get set to the side and suddenly become missed opportunities. Fortunately submitting a proposal for a presentation at the 2010 Utah Open Source Conference doesn’t have to be one of them! The deadline for paper submission has been extended until August 1st, 2010, just in time to sit down inside a nice cool coffee shop, sip some of the great local roast and think about what to share with the community. Really it only takes a minute or two to place a submission and you might find it so easy and fun that you submit more then one. Don’t worry about not having a full presentation prepared, all that needs to be submitted by the deadline is the proposal, a basic outline of what would be presented to the community at the conference. The next step is easy: sit back, relax and wait to hear if your proposal was selected by vote for the conference. Once selected the entire presentation(s) should be laid out and created. Don’t have anything to talk about? That’s not what I’ve heard! Topics can be as wide ranging as are the members of the Utah Open Source community at large (and that is pretty gosh darn diverse!) and should include a variety of experience levels. While one presenter may submit a presentation on Building a Better Community Through Statistics another (and an excellent presentation I attended in 2009,) might be Advanced GIMP: The Digital Diet. So don’t be afraid to submit a proposal to talk about your favorite open source program(s) that just does silly things or maybe does nothing at all! Has anyone ever submitted a presentation on an open source pet rock? No? Hhmm… All ideas are welcome, but please remember to keep with the 2010 theme: its better when its free*. Being free is so easy that my open source pet rock was free! Interested? Want more details? Visit the Utah Open Source Conference website at http://2010.utosc.com and when your ready to submit your proposal simply create an account and visit http://2010.utosc.com/speaker/papers/ to submit your paper. You could put it off again, but then you will have to pay to attend and where’s the fun in that? ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU Lagoon Trip on Pioneer Day
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Velda Christensen ve...@novapages.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Steve Dibb bean...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm looking to see if there's any interest in scheduling a Lagoon trip for any of us that want to meet up next Saturday, July 24th - Pioneer Day. Count me in :-) -V While I am very interested in attending a Lagoon Day sometime very soon, I think that July 24 is going to be very crowded and I would have to wait hours in lines for rides. If it were the next weekend, July 31, I could totally see myself going, though I think I'd probably even lean toward going August 1 myself. While July 31 would be crowded, it'll be nowhere as crowded as this Saturday. Just my $.02 Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Status of Utah PHP Users
I personally would like to take the time to thank Victor for his hard work and dedication to the Utah PHP User Group. Victor is very dedicated to free and open source software, loves PHP and genuinely wants others to succeed. Through the growth of the community and his leadership, I am very happy to be able to call him my friend. Victor, I know that the future is bright for both you and UPHPU. While I will fondly remember all of the meetings I've attended at BGM under Victor's leadership, I look forward to the many cool upcoming meetings at Code Greene, with Mac at the helm. The next year is going to be exciting, and change is a really good thing. All Hail mindjuju!! See you around the community, my friend. Cheers, Clint On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:24 PM, thin thinbe...@gmail.com wrote: Ditto to everything said! Victor, great job. You did advance the group and - I think _ strengthen it as well. Your after-hours Applebees will be missed my many! :) Thanks, -Jim / thinbegin On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM, David Boucha bou...@gmail.com wrote: Victor, I'd like to add my thanks along with everyone else's . Thanks so much for all your time and effort. You did a great job as president. You made a huge contribution to UPHPU. Thanks to Bill Goode for letting us meet there. Good luck on the new job! Dave On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Victor Villa vvi...@gmail.com wrote: Greets all, For the last few years, I've been lucky to be the president of Utah PHP Users Group. It's been a great run and I've come away having learned a lot about PHP and more importantly the community. Some changes for the better are coming to UPHPU. Effective immediately, I'm stepping down as UPHPU president and I'm handing the responsibility to Mac Newbold. Many of you know Mac, he's a GREAT advocate for PHP and an excellent member of the OSS community (he's even on the UTOS board!). I will assist him in this transition period until he gets up to speed so that the impact on the community will be minimal. July's meeting will be at Code Greene. Some final thoughts on what it means to be a part of an OSS community: I moved to Utah several years ago, a web developer from Houston. The OSS community welcomed me with open arms and I found a wealth of information on best practices, security, etc on both the website and the IRC channel. Shifting into the role of president, I was able to start paying back to the community by helping it to grow. This is a great community that you are a part of! There are people on the mailing list, on the IRC that are at the top of their game. Professionals in their prime. Become involved in the community. Take advantage of it. We've built it for you. I think all that anybody asks before you ask your question, is that you at least google it and attempt it on your own. We'll help you learn the rest and coach you along the way. I've sat in many IRC chans and believe me, few there are that are friendlier than #uphpu on freenode. As I say, it has been my pleasure to serve you guys. From here, I'm doubling my focus on Utah Open Source and the conference ( http://2010.utosc.com ) Some programs like the infamous UPHPU After hours party are still in transition and we'll let you know when these programs are back up and running. mj/v ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Managed Hosts
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Sean Thayne s...@exit12.org wrote: If your looking to rent a server, Go Daddy seems to have the best bang for the buck. I've heard many negative remarks about Go Daddy, but if you actually know what your doing and are just renting the hardware and bandwidth, and can manage your own server's OS/Software, I've had a great experience with them. The last time I did comparison research. Servers that cost 200/month at Go Daddy can cost upwards to 400 from other hosting companies. - Sean On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:40 PM, thin thinbe...@gmail.com wrote: I have the opportunity to switch a company from their current hosting solution to a new [hopefully better] one. Since I am the way I am, I like to re-re-re-research just to stay current. :) That said, I'd like everyone ot [once again] give their opinions on their favorite host solutions. Please fel free to self-promote, if that's your schtick, but if you do, at least let me know that. Cool, thnx! Another thought, stackable.com. A very different idea about managed hosting, but it really depends on what you want. I personally use linode, have used others with cpanel and ftp and am also interested in prgmr.com too. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] New: UTOS “announce” mailing list
Well, the other reason which I didn't publicize is the fact that several people have griped or complained that they get the UTOS emails too many times (mostly because they are subscribed to more than one list). In my opinion, that's not really my problem, but I don't want others to be offended by getting mailing from UTOS. However, you do make a good point. If I can convince the president/leader of the group, then it's on them, not me :) I'll look into that option. Thanks, Clint On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:02 PM, thin thinbe...@gmail.com wrote: Soounds like a good idea Clint. I have a thought that might make things better for you without the potential loss of audience. what if you were to get each local UG administrator to sign the local UG mailing list up to the UTOS announce list. Going that route, you would still only have to send the one email to the single [announce] list, but the reach would still cover all of the individual local UG lists out there. Think tree trunk with branching yeah? Just a thought, -Jim/Thinbegin On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Utah Open Source her...@gmail.com wrote: The Utah Open Source Foundation is proud to announce a new mailing list, annou...@utos.org. The idea behind this mailing list is to simplify the announcements that UTOS provides to the community. While we do a fair bit on our blog, we'd like to keep the mailngs going, but it has become complex to send mail to each Local User Group (LUG) every time we need to advertise an event or announce something. In addition, sending mail to more and more LUGs will make it difficult as we grow the free and open source community in Utah and the Mountain West. Therefore, we are going to be moving all of our announcements and news to the official Utah Open Source announce mailing list. It is easy to sign up for this list, just visit our mailing list page and add yourself. Here's the link: http://mail.utos.org/mailman/listinfo/announce There will be a few announcements for this list sent to the individual LUG mailing lists. I also suspect that every so often there will be reminders for those who are new to the community. Beyond that, we plan to send email just to the UTOS announce list. Please feel free to invite your fellow nerds and those you think might benefit from activities that we promote. Thank you, Clint Savage Executive Director Utah Open Source Foundation ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Electroregeneration Society Linux Installfest - Give your time during the holidays.
Ladies and Gentleman, As the holiday season comes upon us, many think about those who are a bit less fortunate than us. I am no different in this category and feel like I would like to do something to help those who need a hand. This year, I plan to help the Electroregeneration Society (http://electroregeneration.org/) by heading down there for our inaugural ERGS/UTOS Holiday Linux Installfest. I hope this might interest a few of you as well. And if so, please consider coming down anytime and donating your time. Here's the details: Location: Electroregeneration Society Warehouse (555 S 400 W, Salt Lake City, UT) (map: http://sn.im/ergs-map) Date: December 19, 2009 Time: 9am-5pm (Installfest starts at 10am) What can I bring? We'll be setting up the equipment at 9am. ERGS has power strips, ethernet switches, computers and monitors. If you have Ubuntu, Fedora or openSUSE install media (CD or DVDs are what we need), bring them with you. Please also bring your laptops so we can look up settings and the like if needed. I'll be bringing my laptop with a tethered phone too, just in case we're overwhelming the internets there. - Hide quoted text - Please come on down and donate your time, here's a bit of a spiel from Dave Turnbull, one of the many volunteers at ERGS: The Electroregeneration Society enriches lives through affordable access to technology by repurposing electronics, supporting technology education, and developing community partnerships. We primarily serve two groups -- charities and low-income families or individuals. We provide computers to 501(c)3 nonprofit organizations without regard to mission -- all nonprofits qualify. For individuals and families, we have a service-for-equipment program, where they provide 15 hours of service to ERGS in exchange for a desktop computer. The Utah Open Source Foundation's goals align with the Electroregeneration Society's goals because we'll be installing Linux on machines that will be repurposed. Sometimes, the machines are a bit older, Linux is the only simple way these machines will be able to be repurposed. If you have a few hours on Saturday, December 19, consider coming down and donating a bit of your time for a good cause and help us install Linux on as many machines as possible. I will be there with my family. I sure hope you can come as well. It's going to be a blast while helping the community get connected to the world :) See you all there, Clint Savage Utah Open Source Foundation ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Inkscape Tutorials
At tonight's after party, I brought up inkscape, so here's the tutorials for all of you... http://screencasters.heathenx.org/ ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Geek Lunch: Phở Green Papaya - West V alley City
phở - in English, written pho and typically pronounced (/ˈfʌ/) is a Vietnamese beef and noodle soup from North Vietnam. (Reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phở) If you have never had phở, it is quite a good noodle soup and we'll be joining today, August 28, 2009, from 12:30-2pm at Phở Green Papaya in West Valley City (map - http://www.greenpapayautah.com/location.html) to enjoy a healthy, geek conversation over some awesome noodles. For $6.50+tax+tip, you can walk away very satisfied. If you are afraid of the phở, never fear. They have Thai and Chinese items also on their menu, and the price is very reasonable. I look forward to seeing you all at Phở Green Papaya for Geek Lunch! Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOS Con Speakers
Thinbegin, I believe we will have an official list coming next week. But for now, we have the following folks as keynotes: Stormy Peters (GNOME Foundation) Would you do it again for free? Dave McAllister (Adobe Systems Incorporated) Big Company, Open Choice: Why Adobe is becoming Open Daren Brabham (University of Utah) Leveraging the Collective Intelligence of Online Communities for Public Good We have one more keynote we're working on, but haven't seen the abstract yet. Should be here any day. Cheers, Clint On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, thinthinbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hey there all, just wondering if any of you [MindJuju] know of a list of confirmed presenters for this years UTOS conference? I searched around on http://2009.utosc.com and found a couple names, but I'm about to blog on the matter and would like to reference more than just 1 or 2. :) Thanks ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOS Con Speakers
http://2009.utosc.com/speaker/list/ -- useful link (not available from any links on the site yet) of currently approved talks :) Clint On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Clint Savageher...@gmail.com wrote: Thinbegin, I believe we will have an official list coming next week. But for now, we have the following folks as keynotes: Stormy Peters (GNOME Foundation) Would you do it again for free? Dave McAllister (Adobe Systems Incorporated) Big Company, Open Choice: Why Adobe is becoming Open Daren Brabham (University of Utah) Leveraging the Collective Intelligence of Online Communities for Public Good We have one more keynote we're working on, but haven't seen the abstract yet. Should be here any day. Cheers, Clint On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, thinthinbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hey there all, just wondering if any of you [MindJuju] know of a list of confirmed presenters for this years UTOS conference? I searched around on http://2009.utosc.com and found a couple names, but I'm about to blog on the matter and would like to reference more than just 1 or 2. :) Thanks ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Utah Open Source Conference 2009
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Kenneth Burgenerkenn...@mail1.ttak.org wrote: On 8/10/2009 5:11 PM, Kenneth Burgener wrote: On 8/10/2009 4:59 PM, Victor Villa wrote: You can get to the registration at http://registration.utosc.com/utoscregand the conference website is... It appears that the registration.utosc.com subdomain has not been added to the utos.org DNS servers as of yet. status: NXDOMAIN I just spoke with Clint and it should work now. Thanks Clint! Silly typos. Luckily we can fix stuff like that rather quickly :) Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Utah Open Source Events for August 2009
The Utah Open Source Foundation, in its goal to promote Open Source throughout Utah and beyond, is proud to promote the following events. These events are generally related to Open Source and Technology in Utah. If your event is not listed below, please contact cl...@utos.org to get it added. Utah Technology Community Announcements • Stormy Peters, Executive Director of the GNOME Foundation will keynote on Friday, October 9 at UTOSC 2009. • Registration for the Utah Open Source Conference is now open. Visit http://utosc.com/pages/registration/ ∘ If you are looking for the Local User Group discount, contact your LUG leader today! • Utah Open Source is looking for more volunteers to join our 'Core Team'. Position definitions and contacts are available at http://wiki.utos.org/All_Positions. • UTOSC 2009 'Call for Papers' closes August 27 and attendee voting on abstracts start August 15. Submit your abstract today: http://utosc.com/speaker/papers/ • UTOS-ConMan HackNights are still happening every Tuesday night in August, watch http://utos.org for announcements. If you have announcements or events for August 2009 or beyond happening around open source in the Intermountain West which you would like included, please contact cl...@utos.org. --- Upcoming Activities for August 2009 Sat, August 8, 12 - 5pm Utah CodeAway Link: http://codeaway.org/ Contact: Laura Moncur, laura @ moncur.biz Sat, August 8, 6pm – 8pm Ubuntu-Utah Meeting Link: http://utah.ubuntu-us.org Where: University of Utah - Merrill Engineering Building (MEB) Comp-Sci Labs Rm 2555 Contact: Aaron Toponce, aarontoponce@ gmail.com Wed, August 12, 11:30pm – 1:00pm SLLUG: Daytime SIG Meeting Where: BetaLoft SLC - 357 West 200 S, Suite 201, Salt Lake City Contact: Clint Savage, her...@gmail.com Wed, August 12, 7:30pm – 9:00pm Provo Linux Users Group Link: http://plug.org Where: Omniture Contact: Ryan Simpkins, simpkins.ryan @gmail.com Thu, August 13, 6pm – 9pm Utah Mobile Developers Group Where: STG Dev Center, 555 South 300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah Contact: Glen Lewis, glen @ glenlewis.com Thu, August 13, 7:00pm – 8:30pm Utah Python User Group Meeting Link: http://utahpython.org Where: University of Utah, Emma Eccles Jones Medical Research Building, Room 1200 Contact: Dave, tonedevf AT gmail.com Thu, August 13, 7:00pm Advanced Git Class presented by Tim Harper and the Utah Ruby User Group Link: http://sn.im/piz7s Where: Lead Media Partners: 891 Baxter Dr South Jordan, UT Contact: Tim Harper timcharper aaat gmail.com Sat, August 15 UTOSC 2009 Abstract Voting Begins Register Today (http://2009.utosc.com/pages/registration/) Wed, August 19, 6:30 - 9:30pm Beginning Puppet presented by Tim Harper and the Utah Ruby User Group Link: http://sn.im/piz7s Where: Lead Media Partners: 891 Baxter Dr South Jordan, UT Contact: Tim Harper timcharper aaat gmail.com Wed, August 19, 7:10pm – 8:40pm Salt Lake Linux User Group (SLLUG) Link: http://sllug.org Where: University of Utah, Warnock Engineering Building (WEB) room 101 or 103 (Previously known as EMCB) Contact: Marc Christensen marc aT mecworks.com Thu, August 20, 6pm – 9pm Utah Java User's Group (ujug.org) Link: http://ujug.org Where: Intermountain Medical Center, Doty Family Education Center, Murray, Utah Contact: Chris Maki, chrismaki AT me.com Thu, August 20, 7:00pm – 8:30pm Utah PHP User Group (UPHPU) Link: http://uphpu.org Where: Bill Good Marketing, Draper, Utah Contact: Victor Villa, vvilla @ gmail.com Thu, August 20, 7:00pm Ignite Salt Lake Link: http://ignitesaltlake.com Where: Murray Theatre 4959 South State Street, Murray Thu, August 27 UTOSC 2009 Call for Papers Ends!! Visit: http://utosc.com/speaker/papers/ to submit your abstract! Thu, August 27, 6pm – 8pm Logan Dev Group Where: Room 208 (Faculty Seminar Lounge), Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan, UT Contact: Matthew Reinbold, matthew.reinbold At voxpopdesign.com Tue, August 25, 6:30pm – 8:00pm SLC Ruby (slc.rb) Link: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/urug Where: Neumont University Room #300 Contact: Jake Mallory, tinomen @gmail.com Tue, August 28, 7:30pm - 9:00pm Ogden Area Linux User Group Link: http://oalug.com Where: Weber County Main Library, Board Room Contact: Seth House, whiteinge@ gmail.com Fri, August 28, 8:00am CTO Breakfast Link: http://www.windley.com/cto_forum Contact: Phil Windley phil AT WINDLEY dot org Fri, August 28, 12:30pm – 2pm UTOS Geek Lunch Link: http://utos.org/geek-lunch Contact: Victor Villa, vvilla AT gmail.com --- Each of the events are from the Utah Tech Events calendar. Feel free to subscribe by clicking the link below (or adding the following feed to your calendaring program
[UPHPU] Utah Open Source Events for June 2009
The Utah Open Source Foundation, in its goal to promote Open Source throughout Utah and beyond, is proud to promote the following events. These events are generally related to Open Source and Technology in Utah. If your event is not listed below, please contact cl...@utos.org to get it added. Utah Technology Community Announcements • UTOS-ConMan HackNights happen most every Tuesday night in June, watch http://utos.org (or #utos-dev on irc.freenode.net) for announcements. • Watch for the UTOSC 2009 'Call for Papers' - http://2009.utosc.com If you have announcements or events that are happening around open source in Utah which you would like included, please contact cl...@utos.org. --- Upcoming Activities for June 2009 Wed, June 10, 11:30pm – 1:00pm SLLUG: Daytime SIG Meeting Topic: IPTables Basics Where: BetaLoft SLC - 357 West 200 S, Suite 201, Salt Lake City Contact: Clint Savage, her...@gmail.com Wed, June 10, 7:30pm – 9:00pm Provo Linux Users Group Topic: KVM QEMU Link: http://plug.org Where: Omniture Contact: Ryan Simpkins, simpkins.ryan @gmail.com Thu, June 11, 6pm – 9pm Utah Mobile Developers Group Where: STG Dev Center, 555 South 300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah Contact: Glen Lewis, glen @ glenlewis.com Thu, June 11, 7:00pm – 8:30pm Utah Python User Group Meeting Link: http://utahpython.org Topic: GUI Toolkit Extravaganza Where: University of Utah, Emma Eccles Jones Medical Research Building, Room 1200 Contact: Dave, tonedevf AT gmail.com Sat, June 13th (All Day) SouthEast LinuxFest (SELF) Where: Clemson, South Carolina Info: http://southeastlinuxfest.org Sat, June 13th, 12-5pm Utah CodeAway Link: http://codeaway.org/ Where: BetaLoft, 357 West 200 South, Suite 201, Salt Lake City Contact: Laura Moncur, laura @ moncur.biz Sat, June 13, 6pm – 8pm Ubuntu-Utah Meeting Link: http://utah.ubuntu-us.org Where: University of Utah - Merrill Engineering Building (MEB) Comp-Sci Labs Rm 2555 Contact: Aaron Toponce, aarontoponce@ gmail.com June 17-19 Open Source Bridge Where: Portland, Oregon Info: http://opensourcebridge.org Wed, June 17, 7:10pm – 8:40pm Salt Lake Linux User Group (SLLUG) Link: http://sllug.org Where: University of Utah, Warnock Engineering Building (WEB) room 101 or 103 (Previously known as EMCB) Contact: Marc Christensen marc aT mecworks.com Thu, June 18, 6pm – 9pm Utah Java User's Group (ujug.org) Link: http://ujug.org Where: SelectHealth (IHC), 4646 West Lake Park Blvd., West Valley City Contact: Chris Maki, chrismaki AT me.com Thu, June 18, 7:00pm – 8:30pm Utah PHP User Group (UPHPU) Topic: Fundamentals of PHP by Adam Barrett Link: http://uphpu.org Where: Bill Good Marketing, Draper, Utah Contact: Victor Villa, vvilla @ gmail.com Sat, June 20, 12pm - 2pm Nerds in the Sun, Provo Linux User Group InterLug Barbecue (sponsored by Utah Open Source) Link: http://blog.utos.org/2009/05/27/event-nerds-in-the-sun-plug-summer-bbq/ Where: Scera Park, Orem, Utah (map: http://sn.im/utos-plug-bbq) Tue, June 23, 6:30pm – 8:00pm SLC Ruby (slc.rb) Link: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/urug Where: Neumont University Room #300 Contact: Jake Mallory, tinomen @gmail.com Thu, June 25, 8:00am – 9:30am CTO Breakfast Link: http://www.windley.com/cto_forum Where: Novell Cafeteria Contact: Phil Windley, phil At windley.org Thu, June 25, 6pm – 8pm Logan Dev Group Where: Room 208 (Faculty Seminar Lounge), Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan, UT Contact: Matthew Reinbold, matthew.reinbold At voxpopdesign.com Fri, June 26, 12:30pm – 2pm UTOS/UPHPU Geek Lunch Link: http://utos.org/geek-lunch Contact: Victor Villa, vvilla AT gmail.com Tue, June 30, 7:30pm - 9:00pm Ogden Area Linux User Group Link: http://oalug.com Where: Weber County Main Library, Board Room Contact: Seth House, whiteinge@ gmail.com --- Each of the events below was pulled from the Utah Tech Events calendar, feel free to subscribe by clicking the link below (or adding the following feed to your calendaring program) Utah Tech Events Calendar - Google Calendar: http://sn.im/ute-calendar Utah Tech Events Calendar - iCal Feed: http://sn.im/ute-calendar-ics Utah Open Source Foundation also regularly records Local User Group (LUG) meetings throughout the state. Feel free to check out our podcasts and live streaming schedules. Utah Open Source Podcasts - http://podcast.utos.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Geek Lunch this Friday: May 29 @ 12:30pm
Theme: Thai Greets all, This month’s UTOS Geek Lunch will be held in three locations at once. In other words, a new way of enjoying lunch with geeks in your area. We thought it’d be nice to hang out with everyone in one place, but it’s so hard to do during the lunch hour. Instead, the idea of having a Geek Lunch in each of the three main valleys along the Wasatch Front. This month’s theme: Thai Salt Lake County Fri, May 29, 12:30pm – 2pm My Thai, 1425 S 300 W, SLC, UT (map - http://sn.im/hyon2) Davis/Weber County Fri, May 29, 12:30pm – 2pm Pad Thai, 1986 N Hill Field Rd #8, Layton, UT (map - http://sn.im/pad-thai-layton) Utah County Fri, May 29, 12:30pm – 2pm Thai Chili Gardens, 430 West 800 North, Orem, Ut (map - http://sn.im/thai-chili-gardens) If you have any questions, please contact Victor Villa (vvilla At gmail.com) for more information. You can also find this information available here: http://blog.utos.org/2009/05/22/event-utos-geek-lunch-may-29/ Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Stout Family needs your help
I know some of you have heard about Brandon Stout's wife's issues. I'd like to pass this on for Brandon and his family. Earlier today I sent him an email informing him of the collection we're taking, and here's his response. This is in relation to the story that ran on KSL recently. http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148sid=6340968 We're taking donations on http://utos.org if you are wanting to help. UTOS is paying for the paypal fees to make the amounts round out to what was actually donated. Clint -- Forwarded message -- From: Brandon Stout b...@mscis.org Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Hey, we saw the thing on KSL.com To: Clint Savage her...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clint, Thank you very much. I have wanted to put up a site with a paypal link, but have not had the time with so much going on all at once. I cannot find the words to adequately express my gratitude. You've been a great friend since the day I met you when you gave me a ride to UPHPU, and I appreciate it. You can take some pictures off of http://flfn.org/ or Facebook from my profile, you can refer people to http://flfn.org/ , and you can reference my request for help letter on FLFN.org: http://flfn.org/blog/brasto/help-request-letter The letter is a little out-dated because people are already sending us to Disneyland and our front yard is done, and I think someone is secretly planning to do our backyard, but it still adequately shows what's happening, where cash donations can help, and how really wanted to try and be self-sufficient to the last. Thank you again. Brandon Clint Savage wrote: And the guys from UPHPU and UTOS have put up a donation site at chipin.com (you can see the widget on blog.utos.org). UTOS is paying all the paypal fees and I'll be putting out a blog post shortly about the situation. We're gonna do everything we can to help. Cheers, Clint -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn/PUgACgkQx0pgn74qrcJdMwCguWCjCLQXgVCcMXHdFIvzTAbb hFcAoJLnSb2YAdrhQ1KBGZh+XXmlmNpk =2KoQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Utah Open Source Events for May 2009
The Utah Open Source Foundation, in its goal to promote Open Source throughout Utah and beyond, is proud to promote the following events. These events are generally related to Open Source and Technology in Utah. If your event is not listed below, please contact cl...@utos.org to get it added. -- Utah Technology Community Announcements Utah Open Source 2009 conference dates / venue / theme - http://2009.utosc.com If you have announcements or events that do not happen on a regular monthly basis which you would like included, please contact cl...@utos.org --- Upcoming Activities for May 2009 Sat, May 9th, 12pm Utah CodeAway Link: http://codeaway.org/ Where: Rocky Mountain Pizza Company, 3977 Wasatch Boulevard, Holladay, Utah 84124 Contact: Laura Moncur, laura @ moncur.biz Sat, May 9, 6pm – 8pm Ubuntu-Utah Meeting Link: http://utah.ubuntu-us.org Where: University of Utah - Merrill Engineering Building (MEB) Comp-Sci Labs Rm 2555 Contact: Aaron Toponce, aarontoponce@ gmail.com Wed, May 13, 11:30pm – 1:00pm SLLUG: Daytime SIG Meeting Where: Salt Lake Public Library - Conference Room A Lower Level Contact: Clint Savage, herlo1 @gmail.com Wed, May 13, 7:30pm – 9:00pm Provo Linux Users Group Link: http://plug.org Where: Omniture Contact: Ryan Simpkins, simpkins.ryan @gmail.com Thu, May 14, 6pm – 9pm Utah Mobile Developers Group Where: STG Dev Center, 555 South 300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah Contact: Glen Lewis, glen @ glenlewis.com Thu, May 14, 7:00pm – 8:30pm Utah Python User Group Meeting Link: http://utahpython.org Topic: GUI Toolkit Extravaganza Where: University of Utah, Emma Eccles Jones Medical Research Building, Room 1200 Contact: Dave, tonedevf AT gmail.com Wed, May 20, 7:10pm – 8:40pm Salt Lake Linux User Group (SLLUG) Link: http://sllug.org Where: University of Utah, Warnock Engineering Building (WEB) room 101/103 (Previously known as EMCB) Contact: Marc Christensen marc aT mecworks.com Thu, May 21, 6pm – 9pm Utah Java User's Group (ujug.org) Link: http://ujug.org Where: SelectHealth (IHC), 4646 West Lake Park Blvd., West Valley City Contact: Chris Maki, chrismaki AT me.com Thu, May 21, 7:00pm – 8:30pm Utah PHP User Group (UPHPU) Topic: Security + PHP by Erik Johnson Link: http://uphpu.org Where: Bill Good Marketing, Draper, Utah Contact: Victor Villa, vvilla @ gmail.com Tue, May 26, 6:30pm – 8:00pm SLC Ruby (slc.rb) Link: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/urug Where: Neumont University Room #300 Contact: Jake Mallory, tinomen @gmail.com Tue, April 28, 7:30pm - 9:00pm Ogden Area Linux User Group Link: http://oalug.com Where: Weber County Main Library, Board Room Contact: Seth House, whiteinge@ gmail.com Thu, May 28, 8:00am – 9:30am CTO Breakfast Link: http://www.windley.com/cto_forum Where: Novell Cafeteria Contact: Phil Windley, phil At windley.org Thu, May 28, 6pm – 8pm Logan Dev Group Where: Room 208 (Faculty Seminar Lounge), Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan, UT Contact: Matthew Reinbold, matthew.reinbold At voxpopdesign.com Fri, May 29, 12:30pm – 2pm UTOS/UPHPU Geek Lunch Link: http://utos.org/geek-lunch Contact: Victor Villa, vvilla AT gmail.com --- Each of the events below was pulled from the Utah Tech Events calendar, feel free to subscribe by clicking the link below (or adding the following feed to your calendaring program) Utah Tech Events Calendar - Google Calendar: http://sn.im/ute-calendar Utah Tech Events Calendar - iCal Feed: http://sn.im/ute-calendar-ics Utah Open Source Foundation also regularly records Local User Group (LUG) meetings throughout the state. Feel free to check out our podcasts and live streaming schedules. Utah Open Source Podcasts - http://podcast.utos.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Utah Open Source Monthly News/Events
The Utah Open Source Foundation, in its goal to promote Open Source throughout Utah and beyond, is proud to promote the following events. These events are generally related to Open Source and Technology in Utah. If your event is not listed below, please contact cl...@utos.org to get it added. In addition, each of the events below was pulled from the Utah Tech Events calendar, feel free to subscribe by clicking the link below (or adding the following feed to your calendaring program) • Utah Tech Events Calendar - Google Calendar: http://tinyurl.com/ute-calendar • Utah Tech Events Calendar - iCal Feed: http://tinyurl.com/ute-calendar-ics --- Utah Technology Community Announcements • Utah Open Source announces 2009 conference theme - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-theme • Utah Open Source announces 2009 conference venue - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-venue (coming soon) • Utah Open Source announces 2009 conference dates - http://tinyurl.com/utosc2009-dates (coming soon) --- Upcoming Activities for April 2009 Sat, April 4th, 1pm Utah CodeAway Link: http://codeaway.org/ Where: Rocky Mountain Pizza Company, 3977 Wasatch Boulevard, Holladay, Utah 84124 Contact: Laura Moncur, laura.moncur.biz for more information Wed, April 8th, 11:30pm – 1:00pm SLLUG: Daytime SIG Meeting Link: http://sexysexypenguins.com/2009/03/24/sllug-daytime-sig-cooking-with-pam-april/ Topic: Cooking with PAM by Thad van Ry Where: Salt Lake Public Library - Conference Room A Lower Level Contact: Clint Savage, her...@gmail.com Wed, April 8, 7:30pm – 9:00pm Provo Linux Users Group Link: http://plug.org Topic: Home Automation by Ryan Erickson Where: Omniture Contact: Ryan Simpkins, simpkins.r...@gmail.com Thu, April 9, 6pm – 9pm Utah Mobile Developers Group Where: STG Dev Center, 555 South 300 East, Salt Lake City, Utah Contact: Glen Lewis, g...@glenlewis.com Thu, April 9, 7:00pm – 8:30pm UtahPython User Group Meeting Link: http://utahpython.org Topic: Pygame by Jeff Shipley Where: University of Utah, Emma Eccles Jones Medical Research Building, Room 1200. (map) Contact: Dave, toned...@gmail.com Fri, April 10, 12:30pm UTOS/UPHPU Geek Lunch Link: http://utos.org/geek-lunch Where: Teriyaki Express, 1898 W 5400 S Taylorsville, UT Contact: Victor Villa victorvi...@gmail.com Sat, April 11, 6pm – 8pm Ubuntu-Utah Meeting Link: http://utah.ubuntu-us.org Topic: Conky by Mike Basinger Where: University of Utah - Merrill Engineering Building (MEB) Comp-Sci Labs Rm 2555 - http://tinyurl.com/2k8px2 Contact: Aaron Toponce, aarontopo...@gmail.com Wed, April 15, 7:10pm – 8:10pm Salt Lake Linux User Group (SLLUG) Link: http://sllug.org Where: University of Utah, Warnock Engineering Building (WEB) room 101 (Previously known as EMCB) Contact: Marc Christensen m...@mecworks.com Thu, April 16, 6pm – 9pm Utah Java User's Group (ujug.org) Link: http://ujug.org Where: SelectHealth (IHC), 4646 West Lake Park Blvd., West Valley City, UT (map) Contact: Chris Maki, chrism...@me.com Thu April 16, 7:00pm – 8:30pm Utah PHP User Group (UPHPU) Link: http://uphpu.org Topic: SSL + Apache presented by Lonnie Olson Where: Bill Good Marketing, Draper, Utah Contact: Victor Villa, vvi...@gmail.com Fri, April 24, 8:00am – 9:30am CTO Breakfast Where: Novell Cafeteria Contact: Phil Windley, p...@windley.org Thu, April 23, 6pm – 8pm Logan Dev Group http://www.windley.com/cto_forum Where: Room 208 (Faculty Seminar Lounge), Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan, UT (map) Contact: Matthew Reinbold, matthew.reinb...@voxpopdesign.com April 24-25 LinuxFest Northwest Link: http://linuxfestnorthwest.org Where: Bellingham, Washington Tue, April 28, 8:30am – 5:00pm Ogden Area Linux User Group Link: http://oalug.com Where: Weber County Main Library, Board Room Contact: Seth House, whitei...@gmail.com ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU on Twitter
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Kevin Carter email@gmail.com wrote: Whats twitter? ~lart DexterTheDragon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Woah! Userfly
2009/3/16 Victor Villa vvi...@gmail.com: http://userfly.com/ Absolutely amazing, really. v Has anyone actually put this on their site and see it work? Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Coding chops?
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Velda ve...@novapages.com wrote: Hi there, I saw the term 'coding chops' on a job description today. I'm guessing from the context that 'chops' would mean something like 'skills.' But I'd like to know exactly what it means, considering I can't seem to shake the mental image of a tuba player with some serious facial hair. Google isn't much help on this topic. Anyone care to comment? -Velda -- And I guess I should reply to the group too :) -- Velda, Sure, I'll reply. My opinion of that reference probably comes from the following idiom: * bust one's chops, Slang. to exert oneself. I found this reference at dictionary.com, but have heard reference to something similar before. I think it also might have reference to a variation on musical ability as described by a google search for 'define: chops' * Technical ability, to execute music physically and to negotiate chord changes. Distinct from the capacity to have good ideas, to phrase effectively and build a solo. (source -- www.apassion4jazz.net/glossary.html) Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] SCaLE 7x Discounts to Local User Groups
SCALE 7x, the premier Open Source Community conference in the southwestern United States, returns to the Westin LAX Hotel, site of the 6th Expo! For 2009, the main weekend conference at SCALE 7x has been expanded. In addition to the three main tracks, a Beginner's track and a Developer's track have been added. SCALE will be February 20th - 22nd, 2009. Mark your calendars! If you have not heard about SCaLE 7x, it's a great event and one that shouldn't be missed. Because of our relationship with SCaLE as premier community events, they have extended us the opportunity to invite UTOSC attendees, Local User Groups and select others the opportunity to attend SCaLE 7x at a 50% discount. If you are interested in this discount, feel free to hit the SCaLE 7x Registration page at https://socallinuxexpo.org/reg7/ and register with the discount code UTOS. This should make the registration a very inexpensive $30. We're looking forward to a great year of conferences in 2009 and SCaLE looks to do a great job setting the tone. Cheers, Clint Savage Utah Open Source Foundation ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Creating .odt
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:48 AM, D. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm interested creating .odt files from php. Can anyone recommend an existing script or class that provides this functionality? Regards, Dave You mean an api for openoffice.org applications? Like this: http://api.openoffice.org/ -- while not specific to php, it seems they have an open api... Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Creating .odt
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, D. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm hoping for a pure php solution (no external app required). As I understand it, the .odt file format is zipped XML, so in theory php should be able to work with the data. I've searched for an existing solution, but have not as yet found one. I'm wondering if any UPHPUers (UPHPUites? UPHPUtahns?) have already invented this wheel and can point me in the right direction. Regards, Dave What about their api requires an external application? I mean it's just code. Sure you have to have the libs installed to use the api, but so what! Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOSC
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Eric Faerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Anderson wrote: Heya, I hear word that local User Groups get access to a Discount Code. Is this true of UPHPU, and if so, who do I need to cozy up with to get it [the code]? That person is Victor, he has the code. Turns out, I was just about to announce this on all of the mailing lists today. I look forward to seeing you all there. So Victor, care to share? Me likey the sharing :) Pretty please? I'd like it as well. Thanks. Since Victor is mute... UPHPUOTWOH Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOSC
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Jim Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya, I hear word that local User Groups get access to a Discount Code. Is this true of UPHPU, and if so, who do I need to cozy up with to get it [the code]? -ja ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net Jim, That person is Victor, he has the code. Turns out, I was just about to announce this on all of the mailing lists today. I look forward to seeing you all there. Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Utah Code Camp - This weekend
Hi all, If you aren't doing anything this weekend, the following might be a good opportunity to see some cool coding demonstrations. Pat, the facilitator of this conference is looking to get a bunch of open source people involved in a track because he thinks its valuable. Currently, he doesn't have much in that direction. Anyway, if you are interested, here is the info... *Utah Spring Code Camp * Date/Time: Sat, 04/26/2008 - 9:00am URL: http://www.utcodecamp.com Location: Neumont University 10701 S. River Front Pky Suite 300 South Jordan, 84095 *Google Maps*http://maps.google.com/?q=10701+S.+River+Front+Pky,+South+Jordan,+,+84095,+usie=UTF8ll=40.558792,-111.91045spn=0.007401,0.019956z=16iwloc=addr Registration is Now Open! As Always registration is Free! The Code Camp is a one day training put on by local volunteers in your community. We have presentations ranging on all sorts of topics for Dba's to Developers. We will have several tracks running throughout the day. You can check on the website for a current list of speakers and sessions. The Code Camp is open to all technologies and is a great place to get together with others and network. We will have lots of giveaways including software, game system, and Ipod. We are still looking for a few more speaker spots if you are interested in speaking. Should you have any questions please visit the website or email. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] We hope to see you there Cheers, Clint __ See http://www.sllug.org/ for latest SLLUG news, information, links. Join SLLUG and other UT LUG members on irc.FreeNode.net channel #Utah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sllug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sllug-members ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Fwd: [Utos-announce] UTOSC 2008 Call For Papers - Get moving!
Before there can be another Utah Open Source Conference in 2008, there needs to be a list of people who will present on various topics. This is how YOU can contribute to the conference: by being a presenter! The UTOSC2008 Call For Papers begins now at http://2008.utosc.com/! Papers can be submitted until July 1, after which time chosen presenters will be announced. Some people are natural public speakers and presenters while others are reluctant to imagine themselves in front of a group of people at a conference. Because this year's Utah Open Source Conference theme is HOWTO, nobody should feel unqualified or inexperienced to present. We want presenters who can share information at all levels. And now, some tough questions. What should I talk about? You should talk about Open Source software, philosophy, technology, etc. The theme for this year's conference is HOWTO so your topic can be targeted at beginners, experts, or someone in between. It may help to see what topics were presented last year. Go to http://www.utosc.com/2007/sessions/ for information about 2007's conference sessions. This year, several sessions will be targetted at beginning or newbie users including those who are family members of an Open Source geek. Basic sessions on using OpenOffice.org, GIMP, or K3B are good examples of these types of sessions. We are asking for presentations in one of the following categories, so bear that in mind also: * Business * Technical * Community * Education What does a response to a call for papers look like? You should come up with a brief outline, or abstract, of your presentation and who would be interested. You should also provide some information about you, your experience with open source software and the specific aspects you're proposing to speak about. Here's an example of an abstract: Title: Open source home security This presentation will outline how I have used a Linux server, IP cameras, and open source software, to provide around-the-clock video and image surveilance of my home which is archived for later viewing and is available for viewing via the Web when I'm not at home. The presentation will describe how to set up a system similar to mine and what alternatives are available for software and hardware in the system. What's in it for me? There are lots of perks reserved for people chosen to present at the Utah Open Source Conference! Resumé material Having presented on a topic at a conference is a great thing to add to your resumé and could make the difference the next time you apply for a job. Free admission If you're chosen as a speaker, we'll let you — and your family — into the conference for FREE! A picture and a paragraph Speakers are asked to submit a digital photo and a paragraph of biographical information which will be seen by those viewing the UTOSC website and those reading the conference program. Warm fuzzies Being involved in the Utah Open Source Conference is a great experience. Just ask anyone who was involved in 2007's conference. What's that URL again? Go to http://2008.utosc.com/ and get yourself an account. Then you can submit as many presentation ideas as you like. ___ Utos-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://utos.org/mailman/listinfo/utos-announce ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Re: Geek Lunch This Thursday - Philadelphian, Sandy, Utah
Just a quick reminder that today is the geek lunch at 12:45pm. Philadelphian 9860 S 700 E Ste 13 Sandy, UT 84070 Map: http://tinyurl.com/yqwvul See you all there! Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation
On Dec 11, 2007 9:07 PM, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use webpipe and they seem pretty good... Tier Four tierfour.com (the are a php.net mirror and host uphpu.org) +1 for TierFour ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] web-based SVN client
On 10/8/07, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations on web-based SVN clients? (not just a read client… one that you can add/edit/commit, etc with) My coworker is interested in a web-based (opposed to terminal) solution (preferably PHP-based). Trac - hands down! Although I've seen tierra's svnlog tool which might suit your needs. (and it seems pretty cool) Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] web-based SVN client
On 10/8/07, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trac - hands down! Trac appears to be just be a repository browser as well. Am I missing something? Does Trac allow you to commit? see http://trac.edgewall.org/ Its complete! Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] web-based SVN client
Nope. Why do you need a web-based way to commit? Trac lets you commit through the normal svn committing. If you're looking for a way to commit your changes through the web, you're not really using svn the right way IMHO. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Where to put repository
On 10/7/07, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: esac What does this do? Never mind on this one… I got it. end of case it closes the switch. That's cute; case backwards. if is the same; if test something; then do something fi Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Subversion (was: Next Meeting Presentation Material)
(Don't count this as a vote for/against any one presentation. I won't be there anyway.) :( Orson But Orson, you do know it will be streamed live, right? Victor does a great job with that... Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Subversion (was: Next Meeting Presentation Material)
On 9/25/07, Orson Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Orson, you do know it will be streamed live, right? Victor does a great job with that... Yep, dialup really bites sometimes. s/sometimes/always/ Orson Ooh, I hope you get it soon! :) Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU Meeting next Thursday
On 9/14/07, Brandon Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray Hunter wrote: W00T! - k, as if Mac wasn't a big enough of a draw, there is a high probability that I will be pushing out some old hardware @ this meet. So, if you are a PHP novice and looking for a comp to try out Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP (LAMP) then come to this meet, because I'll PROBABLY have 2 computers I'm giving away. Now, don't get your hopes up, this isn't latest top of the line stuff, these are P3 comps, 1ghz (I think), built in vid and nic, they'll have the CPU, but you need to buy the hdd. I MIGHT have a stick of RAM, but no promises. you could do linux, apache, postgresql, php too :) (LAPP) rocks my world. -- thebigdog On this note, I'll make a big announcement for Open Source database enthusiasts - MySQL and Postgresql alike. For some time I've wanted to start a Utah MySQL User Group. I've heard others express interest in such a group also. I've seen more MySQL questions each year in UPHPU, and I think we have enough interest to grow a Utah Open Source Database community. Let Utah show a higher level of support for Open Source databases as it has for so many other Open Source products. Tom Welche's (sp?) inspiring presentation on building Open Source communities motivated me to, as Picard would say, make it so. I've registered these domains: http://umysqlug.org http://uosdb.org The umysqlug.org domain currently redirects to uosdb.org. I'll put up mail lists and add features later. Perhaps some of you who go to next Thursday's meeting will stay after and help me plan the site, or maybe we can make it a meeting in itself. Post your thoughts or comments on the site, or comment in this thread. Who would like to be a postgres champion,or a MySQL champion? Now's your chance. May I suggest you do *all* Open Source databases? I think that MySQL is only a small portion of the available dbs out there. Think of postgres, sqlite, etc. All are databases, but some have a different purpose. Maybe talking about *all* db structures would be helpful? What do you guys think? Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups
Gary On 8/19/07, Gary Thornock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just don't use Google for domains! I'm wondering whether you mean that Google for domains would be a bad fit for this list, or whether you're recommending not using Google for domains at all. Google for domains does host email (aliased) lists. And yes, they'd be bad for our list. I actually like the concept of Google for Domains, its just *incomplete* so far. Too many things lacking to really call it a solution, but if all you want to do is maintain a few email addresses and a few webpages and a calendar. It's perfect. In the former case, I completely agree. Google for domains really isn't set up to do mailing lists, and it would be a huge headache to manage a list like this one in that system. In the latter case, though, I've set up a couple of domains on Google Apps, and so far I've been very happy with the service. If that's what you mean, I'd be very curious why. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] do we need the announcement list?
Thanks for the feedback. Sorry for leaving your hanging. I think that we should keep the announcement list and work harder to keep announcements and discussions separated so that people can trust it. I wonder what else actually happens on the announce list besides the meeting announcements. Why does it have to be there if that's the case? I follow it, but I don't really differentiate between it and the main (uphpu) list. Same thing goes for the jobs list. Seems to me to be a bit of a waste, mailman can support topics too, but its not even necessary to have this many lists. Is it? Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups
On 8/20/07, Lamont Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 19 August 2007 09:42pm, Wade Preston Shearer wrote: All, I am toying with the idea of dropping Mailman for Google Groups and would like some feedback from the group. I wouldn't do it. A couple of other lists I've been on have switched back away from Google Groups because of the troubles they caused. Yes, they handle things fairly nicely, but you lose a lot of control over things like headers (there wasn't anything a sorting rule could really be built on and sorting by subject isn't a good idea, but please folks, don't flame me on that statement, however, ask if you don't understand me on it). Lamont, if you are referring to google for domains (alias lists), that's different from google groups. My experience with Google Groups has been nice and smooth. Google for domains doesn't integrate Google Groups, but if it did, I think many people would switch everything there. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] dropping Mailman for Google Groups
On 8/19/07, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I am toying with the idea of dropping Mailman for Google Groups and would like some feedback from the group. Mailman is a nice, old friend that has giving years of dedicated service to the community, but his age is showing. Sure, once you get it configured and locked down, it will run like a champ for years on end, but installing and configuring Mailman is a royal pain and even adding/editing lists, administering services, and managing personal accounts is a pain. The interface is archaic and horrible from a usability standpoint. Mailman's features are excellent, but they aren't any good if you can't figure out how to use them or it is so complicated that you don't want to bother. Plus the archives aren't searchable. Plus the archives display your email address un-obsficated. Just don't use Google for domains! I think if they actually integrated the functionality of Google Groups it'd be a perfect world. Google Groups is a nice idea and adding us to a list on there would be fine with me. Probably the only drawback is that the email addresses wouldn't end in uphpu.org IIRC. Cheers, Clint While I have considered alternate solutions off an on in the past, the upcoming project of rebuilding the server has be considering it very seriously now. Another motivation is the desire for a more robust and flexible solution that better meets the needs of all users. I have longed for some time for a solution that married a forum and a mailing list into one, so that the forum people would be happy and the email people would be happy… with posts coming from both email and web-based interface and being one and the same… perfectly synchronized and users only interacting through the medium they desire and receiving notifications in the manner they desire. Well, there is a solution that does just this: Google Groups. And, it's free. And it has a very slick, user-friendly interface. And it's archives are searchable. And it obsficates your email address. You can even receive the post via RSS if you are so inclined. I am still checking to see if I can import our old archives, but assuming that that and everyone having to have a Good Account are the only downsides, what does everyone think? I think that I'm ready to make the switch. We would still post to uphpu@uphpu.org, the mail would just be delivered from [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. It does digest mode and everything. What do you think? wade ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Re: Mouse Rugs
On 8/13/07, Aaron Toponce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got mine at CompUSA. However, I think they've stopped stocking them. You can go to mouserug.com, however. A much bigger selection to choose from too. +--+ |Aaron Toponce _ Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign | |OALUG President( ) http://www.asciiribbon.org | |http://www.aarontoponce.org X Against HTML e-mail| |http://www.oalug.com / \ Against proprietary attachments| +--Best viewed with a monospace font---+ Mike Basinger wrote: Where do you guys get the mouse rugs you had at Saturday's Ubuntu-utah meeting? Thanks, Mike Radio Shack has the mouserugs for $15. Just about every RS I've ever been has them. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOS
I'd prefer to see someone with much more PHP background teach for this, but I'll consider teaching some if someone else does not volunteer. I'd make it short since I'm mostly interested in attending this time around. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org Brandon, I suggested to the entire group that someone present. I don't understand why nobody from UPHPU was interested in presenting something about PHP, but hey. There is always next year. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOS
On 8/10/07, John David Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clint, Can you highlight some UPHPU-friendly talks or workshops that we might be interested in? John, That concerned me too. I made this comment more than once in meetings and on the irc channel. I sent out requests to those who'd like to present at UPHPU, all to no avail. I'd love to have someone come and talk about PHP. There are tons of talks about programming, technical topics as well as community. We're talking about community in the other thread, come see how other groups do it. We need businesses too, its important that they participate in what we love. If not for them, we'd have no job prospects and no way or time to attend these meetings we love so dearly. Lets get the community involved, that's what I say. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOS
Wait just a second... who's presenting on Django? ;o) -- John His name is Scott Paul Robertson and he was the president of the BYU Unix User Group and is the author of a piece of software called Oggify. He's recently moved to Palo Alto but since he's originally from here, we're glad he wants to come back. http://www.utosc.org/speakers/ Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] popup modal forms
On 8/10/07, jtaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is anyone using a popup modal form ? If so what are you using ? (ie, I-Frame, css, ajax toolkit). I've been trying to use prototype Window, not bad but can't figure out how to close window since links open up in the same window. Modal forms are evil and thus the reason Linux disables them by default. If you are gonna use separate windows, fine, but don't make it so I can't go back to the previous window where I was just working. Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Resumes Attracting New Blood
On 8/10/07, D. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I should have explained. When studying nonprofits (or the third sector, or whatever), any non-governmental organization that does not operate for profit is considered a nonprofit. This includes the roughly 30 types of organizations defined in section 501 of the IRS code (charities, unions, professional organizations, sports leagues, etc. -- yes, the NFL is a nonprofit organization), as well as free associations -- groups of people who organize themselves for some purpose, but do not necessarily legally incorporate (user groups, community watch groups, clubs, etc.). When I say nonprofit, most people think of a 501(c)3, but our ragged band would be considered a nonprofit -- in an academic sense. Blame it on de Tocqueville. I apologize for causing confusion. Regards, Dave Dave, Good to know! I obviously lack in my knowledge where you reign! Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Open for Business
On 7/26/07, Wade Preston Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good morning, does anyone have any experience with open for business (http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/index.php)? Isn't that American Expresses campaign? http://open.com Justin, I've been in talks with two guys this last month. Al Byers and Dave Evans who are the creators of the project these people are promoting The real project is an Apache Software Foundation project found here. I know enough about it, but have not yet set up. I am considering it as a useful tool for managing Utah Open Source Here's the OFBiz project home page which might point you in a better direction and the site you reference does link there. http://ofbiz.apache.org/ Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Open for Business
On 7/26/07, Justin Giboney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good morning, does anyone have any experience with open for business (http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/index.php)? Justin Giboney Justin, The OFBiz people will be presenting at the Utah Open Source Conference this year. You can get in and learn all about it for a great price since you are part of the UPHPU group. Check out http://www.utosc.org and https://register.utosc.org for more information. Cheers, Clint Utah Open Source Founder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Utah Open Source Conference is excited to welcome Bruce Perens - September 6, 2007
Hi all, Its that time of year. Time for a major figure in Open Source to come to visit us. Time for all of us to gather in a large room and listen to the musings of an Uber Geek, a major Open Source advocate and an all-around nerdy guy. This nerdy guy has some strong opinions on Open Source, and its sure to be an event. Bruce Perens is the author of the Open Source Definition and has been speaking out for Open Source since the movement began. He's an excellent speaker, I've heard several of his podcasts and am very much looking forward to him coming to Provo to speak to all of us geeks in person. Bruce has been on a crusade for Open Source and has started a new site: techp.org. Along with perens.com Bruce addresses the importance of Open Source and why he wants it to succeed. I've spent a good amount of time on his sites recently and am very impressed with his thoughts and ideas. Being the president of Utah Open Source and desiring to promote Open Source from within Utah, I am excited to see a force of good in Bruce. He's talking about how Open Source should be, how it can be used in businesses and homes alike and how people can benefit overall from the Open Source movement. I am personally so excited to see the growth of Open Source in Utah. We have such a vibrant community here and I think we can be so much more. Bruce has the vision to lead a national or international explosion of Open Source in Business and Community. I think we all can benefit from hearing what he thinks about Utah and Open Source, about the economic benefits and limitations of Open Source in both the business and user group communities. And because of this, I think Bruce's presentation is very well timed. So I invite you all to come as my guest, free of charge to the Open Source Technology Center at Novell on September 6, 2007 at 7pm. I invite you to enjoy a nice dinner, and I invite you to learn more about Open Source and its benefits to our community as well as to the world. The only requirement for this keynote is that you register, its first come first serve and we only have 100 seats to give away. This is a thank you to the community for participating in Open Source this year. We'll be doing this every year as part of the Utah Open Source Conference. === How to Register for the Utah Open Source Conference You can register for just the keynote at the Utah Open Source Conference website. https://register.utosc.org Choose The Utah Open Source Conference, including the Bruce Perens keynote (Sep 6th-8th). Follow the prompts and pay for your admission.* You may also make a tax deductible donation to Utah Open Source when you register to help with the costs of putting on such an event. Your admission will be confirmed and you'll only need to bring your receipt when you decide to attend. === How to Register for the Free Keynote You can register for just the keynote at the Utah Open Source Conference website. https://register.utosc.org Choose The Bruce Perens Keynote (free) and follow the prompts from there. You may also make a tax deductible donation to Utah Open Source when you register to help with the costs of putting on such an event. Your admission will be confirmed and you'll only need to bring your receipt (along with your ID) to the keynote. So I invite you all to attend what's proving to be the premier Open Source event in Utah, The Utah Open Source Conference. We'll be there to help you find a seat at the keynote and at the conference to make sure you get the best experience. I look forward to meeting with all of you and enjoying a great conference Cheers, Clint Savage Founder, Utah Open Source Conference https://register.utosc.org http://www.utosc.org http://www.utos.org * - The full conference will run September 7-8. Any Open Source special interest group member (Open Source user and business groups members, for instance) may obtain a discount code from the group leader. With this discount code its only $40 to register in advance, or $55 at the door with the same discount code. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Fwd: Photo Sharing Sites
On 6/22/07, Jim Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clint wrote: Give me alternates to flickr. I like it, but isn't there other sites out there that have better/different features? Flickr's nice yeah, but I just don't like a few of things about it. clint, i must have misunderstood what it was that you were asking for then. I thought you were asking for particular site's user experiences/impressions. i gave mine for flickr. sorry to have wasted your time there. -jim Jim, You didn't waste my time. And I am sure that I didn't do a perfect job of asking for what I want. Also, I received replies only with flickr and was hoping for more than just that one. So thank you for your response. Like I said, flickr is nice, but it seems there are many other options out there. Cheers, Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Fwd: Photo Sharing Sites
On 6/22/07, Jesse Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/21/07, Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give me alternates to flickr. I like it, but isn't there other sites out there that have better/different features? Flickr's nice yeah, but I just don't like a few of things about it. I guess I hoped for a better response. I've done some research and have seen several I like, many have most or all of the features I like. Many don't obviously. I think I'd prefer to see the options and not limit it to one. Share with me why you like them, or what's better about them. That's why I sent this email. I'm surprised no one's brought up picasaweb. That's my preference - works well with picasa, and one of the best interfaces if you ask me out there on the web. While probably not a ton of space, a free account gives you 2 Gb of storage. Paid ($15 yearly I think) gives about 6Gb of storage (Google really needs to make that unlimited). It's served me very well thus far, and I always get comments from family on how easy it is to browse through the pictures I upload for them to view. Jesse I like picasaweb, but the space limitation is disheartening. I've really liked the google apps and have wondered why they haven't joined the unlimited space revolution. Clin ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Re: Mailing list reply-to address
On 6/13/07, D. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Jennifer, Jennifer, Jennifer . . . you're either new to this list, very brave, or very foolish. Next you'll want to discuss top versus bottom-posting . . . :) Since I get the digest, I'm probably late to the discussion. But when did that ever stop me from commenting? I think you'll find, Jennifer, that people have very definite (and often intractable) opinions about this issue. If you haven't already been referred to the long and pointless articles arguing the issue, please allow me to waste your time: Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Reply-To Munging Considered Useful: http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.mhtml Reply-To Munging Still Considered Harmful: http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html Sadly, we have not, as a group, demonstrated very much capacity for thoughtful discussion on some of these issues. Inevitably the discussions have descended into flame wars -- to the point that we largely choose to ignore these concepts, for the sake of peace on the list. Of course, it has been some time since we had a flame war. Have we evolved/grown/matured to the point that we can reason together, listen thoughtfully, and discuss opposing viewpoints without bickering? Perhaps, but I'm not holding my breath. Personally, I understand your desire to have reply-to munged. I've alway thought that it was a simple case of replying to the entity from which I received the email. For example, when you, Jennifer (I point this out in case you've forgotten your name), sent an email, you sent it the the mailing list. Then the mailing list sent it to me. I expect my reply-to to go to the mailing list (the entity that sent me the email), and not Jennifer -- who never emailed me at all. (Why don't you ever email, Jennifer? You know how your mother and I worry.) Of course, other people have very valid reasons for seeing things in a different light. And I would never stir the pot by introducing arguments into a discussion so long put to rest. So if you are on the other side of the reply-to munging debate, and don't want to get your dander up, be sure to skip the preceding paragraph. And this one. And if you don't think I'm funny . . . well, you're not the first. But please do try not to be jealous that I managed to use dander in my email, and you didn't. Jealousy is so unbecoming . . . Anyway, Jennifer, if you ARE new to the list, welcome! I sincerely hope you find much help and comfort in our little corner of the world. Regards, Dave Mr Turnbull, it sounds to me like you want to start a flame war again over such a standard issue. I'd say that you are wrong, but why argue something I already know to be true. :) ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Re: Mailing list reply-to address
I think there's a better idea here. I prefer pushing the reply-to-all button (and think its the only correct way) when I reply. Maybe some of us would like to just click reply. Mailman doesn't have this feature, but it could easily be implemented (methinks) to make it possible to choose how you reply to messages. Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net