Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode
On 26/05/12 09:56, Bill Vlahos wrote: Richmond, So the installation of plugins is a bit more customizable than I thought. My instructions worked for Mac and Windows but not Linux if there is no pre-existing location for them that the IDE already knows about. If there was or you specifically told LIveCode where it should be my instructions might not work. I have updated the instructions for a fresh installation and also included the following link to RunRev's installation page. http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/21341-how-to-install-custom-user-plugins You should not need to change the suffix unless you are installing it for Revolution instead of LiveCode. I am, and your website claims that your plugin works for ALL versions (might be a wee bit of an over-generalisation - think of trying it with RunRev 1.0). Sorry for the confusion. Absolutely no need to apologise; I am (in case you hadn't worked it out already) an awkward s*d. HOWEVER; it is awkward s*ds like me who can push your plugin to its extremes, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. lcTaskList: (http://www.infowallet.com/lctasklist/index.htm) On May 24, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Richmond wrote: The installation instructions on the website are incorrect vis-a-vis Linux. In Linux installs (well 4.0.0 and 4.5.0 at least) the Plugins folder resides inside the same folder as the executable. If you are using something a bit older than LC 5.0 don't forget to change the suffix from '.livecode' to '.rev' on the plugin. Over on my PPC Mac, inside the 'Documents' folder there is a 'My Revolution Enterprise' which is potentially HIGHLY MISLEADING as, if one right-clicks on the executable one finds at /Contents/Tools/Plugins just the right place to put lcTaskList.rev On opening the stack for my Devawriter Pro ( RR 4.5, macMiniPPC, Mac OS 10.4) the plugin does nothing at all except slow things down considerably. Let's have a go on Linux ( RR 4.5, DELL Optiplex 745, Xubuntu 12.04 with XFCE 4.10) - much the same. !! Now: is this not working because of Linux? Mac PPC ? Old versions of RunRev ? Possibly I am missing something; it wouldn't be the first time. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Splash Screen masks display
Jacque thanks very much, works perfectly. My mistake was to think that the card is drawn after preOpenCard and before openCard (this is implied by the SC docs, which tell you to use a preOpenCard handler to execute stuff that you want to do before the card appears). It appears that actually the drawing must done during openCard. I have never noticed this before. It's interesting that, although the drawing action is internal to LC, iOS doesn't let go of the launch image/splash screen until the app has something to show. Makes sense tho. Thanks again Graham On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:04:02 -0500, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 5/25/12 2:09 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: I found that if I put a script like this into the first card: on openCard wait 4 seconds go to Card2 end openCard then the splash screen stays around for an extra 4 seconds, and the first thing the user sees is Card 2 - Card 1 is never visible. The launch screen shouldn't matter, your app doesn't really start until that disappears. What may be happening is that the wait command is blocking, and preventing the first card from drawing. Try wait 4 seconds with messages and see if that helps. If it doesn't, then use send instead: on openCard send goCard to me in 4 seconds end openCard on goCard go to Card2 end goCard -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
Dear LiveCode users in Germany and the Netherlands, I would like to make two announcements. First of all, I would like to remind you of the existence of Dutch and German LiveCode forums. In these forums, you can freely discuss all LiveCode-related topics. You can find the german forum at http://de.runrev.info/ and the Dutch forum at http://runrev.info/rrforum . If you experience any problems with registering, please contact me off-list. Second, the members of the Dutch forum have been discussing the possibility to organise a meeting. I will organise a meeting in the Netherlands within a few weeks, as part of eHUG's activities. eHUG is an official Apple User Group. Naturally, the meeting is not only for Mac and iOS users but for all LiveCode users. Also, if you are not a LiveCode user yet but are currently considering to start programming in LiveCode, then this meeting will be very useful for you. If you would like more information about the meeting, you can register at the Dutch forum and join the discussion. You can also contact me off-list (in Dutch, German or English). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Apple User Group Ambassador eHUG leader Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
On 05/26/2012 03:32 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dear LiveCode users in Germany and the Netherlands, I would like to make two announcements. First of all, I would like to remind you of the existence of Dutch and German LiveCode forums. In these forums, you can freely discuss all LiveCode-related topics. You can find the german forum at http://de.runrev.info/ and the Dutch forum at http://runrev.info/rrforum . If you experience any problems with registering, please contact me off-list. Second, the members of the Dutch forum have been discussing the possibility to organise a meeting. I will organise a meeting in the Netherlands within a few weeks, as part of eHUG's activities. eHUG is an official Apple User Group. Naturally, the meeting is not only for Mac and iOS users but for all LiveCode users. Also, if you are not a LiveCode user yet but are currently considering to start programming in LiveCode, then this meeting will be very useful for you. If you would like more information about the meeting, you can register at the Dutch forum and join the discussion. You can also contact me off-list (in Dutch, German or English). En wat over mensen wie Vlaams of Afrikaans spreken? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Apple User Group Ambassador eHUG leader Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
Beste Richmond, Die mensen zijn zeker ook welkom op de bijeenkomst, als Nederland voor hen niet te ver weg is. Bovendien kan eenieder mij ook in het Vlaams of Afrikaans aanschrijven. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 26 mei 2012, at 14:42, Richmond wrote: En wat over mensen wie Vlaams of Afrikaans spreken? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
If I recall correctly, when you rent a movie you have 24 hours to watch it starting at the time you actually start playing the movie, otherwise I think it can sit there for a while (not sure how long) waiting for you to kick start the timer. . Not sure anymore though as my first gen (of the new gen of apple tv's) rolled craps after 5 months. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
On 05/26/2012 03:51 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Beste Richmond, Die mensen zijn zeker ook welkom op de bijeenkomst, als Nederland voor hen niet te ver weg is. Bovendien kan eenieder mij ook in het Vlaams of Afrikaans aanschrijven. Droevig, kon ik enkel me niet tegen dat cooment verzetten. Het werd voorgesteld door een buur van mijn van Groningen. An, Ahm gae sair anent ma Flemis leid; but thon'll ken ma vocables ane dout. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 26 mei 2012, at 14:42, Richmond wrote: En wat over mensen wie Vlaams of Afrikaans spreken? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
Hi Richmond, People can also contact me in Gronings, although I may not understand every word. I don't know if you're trying to write Flemish, Engrikaans or Gaelic. Sorry. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 26 mei 2012, at 15:06, Richmond wrote: On 05/26/2012 03:51 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Beste Richmond, Die mensen zijn zeker ook welkom op de bijeenkomst, als Nederland voor hen niet te ver weg is. Bovendien kan eenieder mij ook in het Vlaams of Afrikaans aanschrijven. Droevig, kon ik enkel me niet tegen dat cooment verzetten. Het werd voorgesteld door een buur van mijn van Groningen. An, Ahm gae sair anent ma Flemis leid; but thon'll ken ma vocables ane dout. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Having a great Friday evening thanks to Apple. snip So I give up on that and think, OK, let's watch a movie through my new AppleTV box. Already watched several NetFlix movies with no problem. Ordered a movie. After I've paid for it, I'm told a) it's only available to watch for 24 hours, and b) it's gonna take nearly 6 hours to download. Leaving town tomorrow so no way I can watch this movie. How come NetFlix can automatically adjust their download resolution to my Internet connection speed but Apple can't? snip Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Netflix is licensed for Microsoft Silverlight, which is way ahead of Quicktime in the compression and streaming department. Apple just doesn't want to accept that fact. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
I think you have 30 days from the date of purchase to start watching and 24 hours from the time you start to finish the movie. Sent from my iPad On May 26, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: If I recall correctly, when you rent a movie you have 24 hours to watch it starting at the time you actually start playing the movie, otherwise I think it can sit there for a while (not sure how long) waiting for you to kick start the timer. . Not sure anymore though as my first gen (of the new gen of apple tv's) rolled craps after 5 months. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: I think you have 30 days from the date of purchase to start watching and 24 hours from the time you start to finish the movie. Sent from my iPad I like the DRM of a DVD better. Anytime, anywhere... which should be in the definition of purchased, IMHO. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode
Richmond, On May 26, 2012, at 1:22 AM, Richmond wrote: You should not need to change the suffix unless you are installing it for Revolution instead of LiveCode. I am, and your website claims that your plugin works for ALL versions (might be a wee bit of an over-generalisation - think of trying it with RunRev 1.0). I only claim all versions of LiveCode and versions of Revolution 3.5 or later not all versions of Rev. You are correct that if using Revolution the extension needs to be set to .rev. I'll update the web page. HOWEVER; it is awkward s*ds like me who can push your plugin to its extremes, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I want people to push it. On May 24, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Richmond wrote: The installation instructions on the website are incorrect vis-a-vis Linux. In Linux installs (well 4.0.0 and 4.5.0 at least) the Plugins folder resides inside the same folder as the executable. If you are using something a bit older than LC 5.0 don't forget to change the suffix from '.livecode' to '.rev' on the plugin. Over on my PPC Mac, inside the 'Documents' folder there is a 'My Revolution Enterprise' which is potentially HIGHLY MISLEADING as, if one right-clicks on the executable one finds at /Contents/Tools/Plugins just the right place to put lcTaskList.rev Yes it should work there. On opening the stack for my Devawriter Pro ( RR 4.5, macMiniPPC, Mac OS 10.4) the plugin does nothing at all except slow things down considerably. Let's have a go on Linux ( RR 4.5, DELL Optiplex 745, Xubuntu 12.04 with XFCE 4.10) - much the same. !! Now: is this not working because of Linux? Mac PPC ? Old versions of RunRev ? Double check the instructions at http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/21341-how-to-install-custom-user-plugins for the installation of plugins. I would expect your setup to be able to work. Bill Vlahos ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode
On 05/26/2012 05:04 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: Richmond, On May 26, 2012, at 1:22 AM, Richmond wrote: You should not need to change the suffix unless you are installing it for Revolution instead of LiveCode. I am, and your website claims that your plugin works for ALL versions (might be a wee bit of an over-generalisation - think of trying it with RunRev 1.0). I only claim all versions of LiveCode and versions of Revolution 3.5 or later not all versions of Rev. You are correct that if using Revolution the extension needs to be set to .rev. I'll update the web page. HOWEVER; it is awkward s*ds like me who can push your plugin to its extremes, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I want people to push it. On May 24, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Richmond wrote: The installation instructions on the website are incorrect vis-a-vis Linux. In Linux installs (well 4.0.0 and 4.5.0 at least) the Plugins folder resides inside the same folder as the executable. If you are using something a bit older than LC 5.0 don't forget to change the suffix from '.livecode' to '.rev' on the plugin. Over on my PPC Mac, inside the 'Documents' folder there is a 'My Revolution Enterprise' which is potentially HIGHLY MISLEADING as, if one right-clicks on the executable one finds at /Contents/Tools/Plugins just the right place to put lcTaskList.rev Yes it should work there. On opening the stack for my Devawriter Pro ( RR 4.5, macMiniPPC, Mac OS 10.4) the plugin does nothing at all except slow things down considerably. Let's have a go on Linux ( RR 4.5, DELL Optiplex 745, Xubuntu 12.04 with XFCE 4.10) - much the same. !! Now: is this not working because of Linux? Mac PPC ? Old versions of RunRev ? Double check the instructions at http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/21341-how-to-install-custom-user-plugins for the installation of plugins. I would expect your setup to be able to work. That seems all very straight forward, and as that is the way I installed the lcTaskList plugin I am NOT surprised that it shows up in the menu /Development/Plugins and load when it is selected. But . . . Ahah: Gottit! Opened a rather silly little stack of mine and wrote --MARK Visichko into a card script and it automagically appeared in the plugin's field/ datagrid (???) So certainly works in RR/LC 4.5 on Linux. I would assume that that goes for Mac PPC as well. I have to hop out for supper with some friends, but afterwards I will run your plugin with RR/LC 3.5.0, 4.0.0 and 4.5.0 om both Linux and PPC; and, just for fun (???) give it a whirl with Metacard. HOWEVER: the Ahah may be interpreted in 2 ways (both of which are a possible problem for you): 1. Richmond is a bit stupid and it took him quite a while to realise that unless he added those comments into his scripts they would not appear in lcTaskList. 2. Your instructions are not clear enough. Of course #1 would not be a problem if #2 were BLATANT. AND . . . how does one use the plugin to count script lines in a stack? Bill Vlahos ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
Purchased was probably the wrong word. Surely you are renting the video? If you rent a DVD from a video store, aren't you expected to return it soon, even if you didn't get around to watching it? On May 26, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: I like the DRM of a DVD better. Anytime, anywhere... which should be in the definition of purchased, IMHO. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
For those of you using Linux, building mobile apps requires us to move our work to either Mac or Win to make standalones. For iOS this is to be expected; Apple has the right to require that we spend a thousand dollars purchasing a Mac from them to build for their mobile OS. But for Android, the SDK is available for Linux so ideally we should be able to build for Android Linux from desktop Linux without having to spend hundreds of dollars on a copy of Windows to do that in a VM. I was surprised to find that there was no RQCC request for this, so I submitted one: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10232 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
You will be interested to hear that in the Flash community people have taken the iOS 5.1 SDK out of Xcode, got it over to Windows, and are successfully publishing iOS apps there. I don't know how legal that is, but it ought to work for Linux too. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
When renting, yes. On May 26, 2012 10:47 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: Purchased was probably the wrong word. Surely you are renting the video? If you rent a DVD from a video store, aren't you expected to return it soon, even if you didn't get around to watching it? On May 26, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: I like the DRM of a DVD better. Anytime, anywhere... which should be in the definition of purchased, IMHO. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: what should be done with MobGUI?
does he know that there's tons of unanswered questions on his support email as well as the forum? On 26.05.2012, at 05:30, Monte Goulding wrote: I was just chatting to John the other day and it's not abandonware. -- Monte Goulding On 26/05/2012, at 12:52 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Is MobGUI abandonware? Does anyone know if John is working on updates? Cheers Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
Colin Holgate wrote: You will be interested to hear that in the Flash community people have taken the iOS 5.1 SDK out of Xcode, got it over to Windows, and are successfully publishing iOS apps there. I don't know how legal that is, but it ought to work for Linux too. There are some who run OS X in a VM on Linux boxes, and even under dual-boot on PCs. While apparently doable, since it clearly violates Apple's only on an Apple-branded computer EULA terms, I find it interesting but I wouldn't advocate it or try it myself. I haven't reviewed the Xcode EULA in sufficient detail to have an opinion on that specifically, but I'd be surprised if Apple allows it. Apple is currently in a position to ask iOS devs to also purchase Macs to build apps, and while I would welcome a change to that policy I accept that it's within their rights to do so. If it turns out that they already allow the iOS SDK to run on other OSes so much the better, but I'd want to verify that before doing so. The Android SDK is already openly available for every popular OS, so it should be relatively easy for RunRev to support building for it from any of the desktop OSes their IDE supports. The Mac and Win IDEs already provide this, so now we just need to add Linux for that to be complete: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10232 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
Why not just tell people some information about this meeting on the use list, the official forum etc. I'm sure runrev would retweet any announcements that you have about community meetings (if you tell them to), and there's probably sense in writing a newsletter for revup about this. Asking non-dutch people to join a dutch forum to get information about a not-dutch-exclusive meeting is a pretty roundabout way to make sure that you won't get any participants. On 26.05.2012, at 14:32, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dear LiveCode users in Germany and the Netherlands, I would like to make two announcements. First of all, I would like to remind you of the existence of Dutch and German LiveCode forums. In these forums, you can freely discuss all LiveCode-related topics. You can find the german forum at http://de.runrev.info/ and the Dutch forum at http://runrev.info/rrforum . If you experience any problems with registering, please contact me off-list. Second, the members of the Dutch forum have been discussing the possibility to organise a meeting. I will organise a meeting in the Netherlands within a few weeks, as part of eHUG's activities. eHUG is an official Apple User Group. Naturally, the meeting is not only for Mac and iOS users but for all LiveCode users. Also, if you are not a LiveCode user yet but are currently considering to start programming in LiveCode, then this meeting will be very useful for you. If you would like more information about the meeting, you can register at the Dutch forum and join the discussion. You can also contact me off-list (in Dutch, German or English). -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
Peter Haworth wrote: So I give up on that and think, OK, let's watch a movie through my new AppleTV box. Already watched several NetFlix movies with no problem. Ordered a movie. After I've paid for it, I'm told a) it's only available to watch for 24 hours, and b) it's gonna take nearly 6 hours to download. Leaving town tomorrow so no way I can watch this movie. How come NetFlix can automatically adjust their download resolution to my Internet connection speed but Apple can't? ... Time for a goodnight glass of single mat Scotch - Glenfaclas 105, you can't beat it When things get so big I don't trust 'em at all. You wanna keep control you gotta keep it small. DIY. - Peter Gabriel, DIY Guide To Building An Open Source HTPC / Media Center on Ubuntu http://linuxlookup.com/guide_to_building_an_open_source_htpc_media_center_on_ubuntu PS: Good choice of Scotch. You're welcome to come camping with me any time. Nothing beats a good single-malt at the campfire under the desert moon. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
Thats how mine works. Mine also usually says 12 hours to download to begin with, then I check 10 minutes later and its ready to play. One HUGE performance factor ive found is if you use a centralised dns like opendns or unblock-us etc it pretty much destroys the download performance and its hours and not minutes for downloads to start. I believe Apple use geo data to provide a local server for iTunes downloads, and they cant always get this when you go through other dns systems. Netflix and VuDu however seem to have it much more sorted. Andy On 26 May 2012, at 14:42, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: I think you have 30 days from the date of purchase to start watching and 24 hours from the time you start to finish the movie. Sent from my iPad On May 26, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: If I recall correctly, when you rent a movie you have 24 hours to watch it starting at the time you actually start playing the movie, otherwise I think it can sit there for a while (not sure how long) waiting for you to kick start the timer. . Not sure anymore though as my first gen (of the new gen of apple tv's) rolled craps after 5 months. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Colin Holgate wrote: You will be interested to hear that in the Flash community people have taken the iOS 5.1 SDK out of Xcode, got it over to Windows, and are successfully publishing iOS apps there. I don't know how legal that is, but it ought to work for Linux too. There are some who run OS X in a VM on Linux boxes, and even under dual-boot on PCs. While apparently doable, since it clearly violates Apple's only on an Apple-branded computer EULA terms, I find it interesting but I wouldn't advocate it or try it myself. I haven't reviewed the Xcode EULA in sufficient detail to have an opinion on that specifically, but I'd be surprised if Apple allows it. Apple is currently in a position to ask iOS devs to also purchase Macs to build apps, and while I would welcome a change to that policy I accept that it's within their rights to do so. If it turns out that they already allow the iOS SDK to run on other OSes so much the better, but I'd want to verify that before doing so. The Android SDK is already openly available for every popular OS, so it should be relatively easy for RunRev to support building for it from any of the desktop OSes their IDE supports. The Mac and Win IDEs already provide this, so now we just need to add Linux for that to be complete: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10232 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv I too, want LiveCode to support building for Android on a Linux system. That should be a no-brainer. I don't see why RunRev hasn't done this yet. Violations aside, Apple makes a nice OS, and nicely designed hardware. Hobbyists (and pros) want this cool looking iStuff, but without the hefty pricetag. I 'personally' don't see a problem with a hobbyist BUYING a copy of OS X, and installing it on their own custom hardware for fun (not profit). I don't see a problem doing this to make your own HTPC either. If you then use said CustoMac to watch DRM protected media with iTunes, Apple still profits. If you use said CustoMac to buy OS X Apps, Apple still profits. Someday, I hope they loosen their grip and allow this scenario, even if the price for the OS for non-apple hardware quadruples. I'd buy a copy. By the way, check out this new case: (seems inspired, doesn't it?) http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqn-e9qAvtI ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: what should be done with MobGUI?
Good question. I bought MobGUI quite a time ago, and stopped using it when I couldn't get answers to my questions. I did get some advice but from an independent source, John Dixon. He was so knowledgeable that for a time I thought he was John Craig. Maybe John Dixon knows what's going on, since he once told me that the two Johns speak to one another most days. Graham On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:16:04 +0200, Bj?rnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: does he know that there's tons of unanswered questions on his support email as well as the forum? On 26.05.2012, at 05:30, Monte Goulding wrote: I was just chatting to John the other day and it's not abandonware. -- Monte Goulding On 26/05/2012, at 12:52 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Is MobGUI abandonware? Does anyone know if John is working on updates? Cheers Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
On 5/25/12 11:45 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Having a great Friday evening thanks to Apple. Okay, I laughed. :) But only in commiseration. Still in the throes of dealing with Apple Store submission for my app. TO register it, I have to upload at least one screenshot (why?). No problem, I have several created with the OS X ability to take screen shots and save them on disk, used them for my web site. Unfortunately, they're not acceptable for upload to the Apple store according to the error message I got - either wrong format, wrong resolution or wrong color scheme. So apparently screen shots made with Apples's own OS are not acceptable to the Apple Store. For my screenshots, I just set the stack size on my Mac to iPad size (my app is only for iPad) and took screenshots in LiveCode using the regular OS X screenshot shortcuts. Then I cropped them to the required size in a graphics program to remove the shadow and titlebar, which Apple doesn't want. Then I resaved as 32-bit PNG. Apple has the image requirements listed in the developer docs. I was concerned that the Apple police wouldn't accept Mac screenshots but it went through on the first try. I doubt they can tell where the shots came from. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: The Android SDK is already openly available for every popular OS, so it should be relatively easy for RunRev to support building for it from any of the desktop OSes their IDE supports. The Mac and Win IDEs already provide this, so now we just need to add Linux for that to be complete: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10232 -- Richard Gaskin Supported with my votes. +5 ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone problem
Thanks Jacque, as usual you have the right answer! Might be useful to document everything I tried and the results. I did try setting up the folder structure outlined in the newsletter article since it says You only need the *Runtime* hierarchy for building Standalones containing your externals. Alas, that did not result in the external turning up anywhere in the standalone package. I tried specifying the name of the external bundle file in the Standalone Settings/Copy Files dialog, using the Add File button to do it. When I built the standalone I got a warning message that it couldn't find the external file, which seemed strange since the Add File button uses a standard Mac Open File dialog. Then I noticed that the path to the folder congtaining my stack file had been inserted at the beginning of the path to the external in the error message. If that's what it was looking for, no wonder it couldn't find it - looks like a bug. I also tried the option to Search for required inclusions - didn't help. Next I tried selecting the4 external in the main stack Inspector External References pane. When I built the standalone, there was no trace of the external anywhere in the folder containing the standalone or in application package contents. So finally, I added a startup handler to set the externals based on the environment as you suggested, and manually copied the external bundle into the standalone apps folder. I have more testing to do but I think that did the trick. If all pans out, I may add some code to the standaloneSaved handler to copy the external into the standalone application folder. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:25 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 5/25/12 7:20 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Jacque, Bit late on this but I've just successfully built an external( whooppee!) and am now left with the task of installing it in the correct place. Congrats. :) I know it was a difficult trek. I've never had to deal with any of that, and I don't think I want to. I really don;t know what purpose the Externals.txt file serves and the newsletter article doesn't explain it I always assumed the IDE reads that file so it knows what externals to load at launch. Presumably that would avoid problems if some of the files in the folder aren't really externals, or if some should be intentionally excluded. Maybe someone else knows for sure. My question is, if I do what is suggested in the newsletter article, will the IDE and whatever standalone I build find the external OK or do I still have to take the steps you outlined in your post? Short answer: yes, you need to manage standalones. The newsletter article is about using externals in the IDE but doesn't apply to standalones. Once the app is built it's on its own, and it needs to know how to find the files. So do that by either hard-coding a relative path in the inspector (Externals/myexternal.bundle**) or by setting the externals property in a startup handler. I'm not sure the IDE will know to build the standalone with your external, even if it's in the proper location where the IDE can find it. There's no interface in the SB where you can specify a custom external (though maybe search for inclusions will work; I never use that.) I suspect you'll have to copy it into the app bundle manually after the standalone is built. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 5/25/12 11:45 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Having a great Friday evening thanks to Apple. Okay, I laughed. :) But only in commiseration. Still in the throes of dealing with Apple Store submission for my app. TO register it, I have to upload at least one screenshot (why?). No problem, I have several created with the OS X ability to take screen shots and save them on disk, used them for my web site. Unfortunately, they're not acceptable for upload to the Apple store according to the error message I got - either wrong format, wrong resolution or wrong color scheme. So apparently screen shots made with Apples's own OS are not acceptable to the Apple Store. For my screenshots, I just set the stack size on my Mac to iPad size (my app is only for iPad) and took screenshots in LiveCode using the regular OS X screenshot shortcuts. Then I cropped them to the required size in a graphics program to remove the shadow and titlebar, which Apple doesn't want. Then I resaved as 32-bit PNG. Apple has the image requirements listed in the developer docs. I was concerned that the Apple police wouldn't accept Mac screenshots but it went through on the first try. I doubt they can tell where the shots came from. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Doesn't the power button + home button on an iOS device make a screenshot in your photo gallery? The screen should flash. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
You can also just use the iPhone simulator on your mac and hit cmd-s and a file appears on your desktop. Ive used these unaltered for the screenshots, they dont carry the network your phone is on and signal strength too :) Doesn't the power button + home button on an iOS device make a screenshot in your photo gallery? The screen should flash. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
I think this makes sense, if the buyer has to pay the same price that Mac users have to pay for Windows. Windows 7 Ultimate (the equivalent version to OSX, because OSX does't come in cut-down variations) has a retail price of $320. Lion sells for $30. Now, to be fair you would have had to installed Snow Leopard in order to order Lion, you could argue that the effective price is $160. That's still half the price of Windows. Apple could make a straight to Lion product for perhaps $150, which could be enough income to be worth the trouble, and still be less than half the price of Windows. One issue though is that it could lead to a huge amount of support for all the variations of PC hardware people might use it on. On May 26, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: Violations aside, Apple makes a nice OS, and nicely designed hardware. Hobbyists (and pros) want this cool looking iStuff, but without the hefty pricetag. I 'personally' don't see a problem with a hobbyist BUYING a copy of OS X, and installing it on their own custom hardware for fun (not profit). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
This is for the Mac Apple Store for desktop apps, not iPhone/iPad apps, not sure if the requirements are the same. The error message detailed that the screenshot had to be in one of several file formats - mine was .png which was one of the valid formats. It also had to be at least 1280x800 - my screen was at that resolution when I took the screen shot. But, the screen shots were almost all only sections of the screen, not the whole screen so maybe that's the problem. And it had to use RGB color scheme - according to Preview, it did. Just about to take a look around the Mac Apple Store forum to see what I can find out. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:50 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: For my screenshots, I just set the stack size on my Mac to iPad size (my app is only for iPad) and took screenshots in LiveCode using the regular OS X screenshot shortcuts. Then I cropped them to the required size in a graphics program to remove the shadow and titlebar, which Apple doesn't want. Then I resaved as 32-bit PNG. Apple has the image requirements listed in the developer docs. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Apple Rant
On 5/26/12 12:59 PM, Roger Eller wrote: Doesn't the power button + home button on an iOS device make a screenshot in your photo gallery? The screen should flash. Probably but I didn't bother. I was making screenshots in different sizes for both main Android stores as well as the iPad, and I made a few iPhone sizes too just in case. My stack has resize handlers, so I just kept changing the stack size, letting it reposition everything, and snapping shots. I didn't need to bother building an app or installing anything, and the whole process took only a few minutes. Since none of the online stores want the status bar in the screenshot, removing the titlebar satisfied all the different store requirements. All three stores accepted the shots without any problem. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
Apple would have to be VERY specific as to compatible hardware. The hackintosh community at TonyMacX86 dot com have done all the leg work already. There are a sub-set of PC hardware, motherboards, CPU's video cards, etc. that in the right combination, allows OS X to actually 'believe' it is running on real Apple hardware. So, Apple would only need to support the recommended sub-set, although there may be a few outliers that it still works on. When Steve was still around, the community petitioned for this, in hopes that Apple would see enough requests to make it profitable. Sadly, the numbers were low because only techies really attempt this kind of black-magic. Mainstream users would want a disk they can put in and have it just work, which it certainly would - on the right hardware. ~Roger On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: I think this makes sense, if the buyer has to pay the same price that Mac users have to pay for Windows. Windows 7 Ultimate (the equivalent version to OSX, because OSX does't come in cut-down variations) has a retail price of $320. Lion sells for $30. Now, to be fair you would have had to installed Snow Leopard in order to order Lion, you could argue that the effective price is $160. That's still half the price of Windows. Apple could make a straight to Lion product for perhaps $150, which could be enough income to be worth the trouble, and still be less than half the price of Windows. One issue though is that it could lead to a huge amount of support for all the variations of PC hardware people might use it on. On May 26, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Roger Eller wrote: Violations aside, Apple makes a nice OS, and nicely designed hardware. Hobbyists (and pros) want this cool looking iStuff, but without the hefty pricetag. I 'personally' don't see a problem with a hobbyist BUYING a copy of OS X, and installing it on their own custom hardware for fun (not profit). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] Launcher X 0b04
Hi guys, A new beta version of Launcher X is now available. Launcher X is a recreation of the old Launcher for Mac OS 9 and earlier. This version works better with OSX Lion and no longer causes the Finder to block a few seconds. You can download Launcher X at http://qery.us/265 for free. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode
Richmond, You can get the count of script lines in the Application Browser. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. lcTaskList: (http://www.infowallet.com/lctasklist/index.htm) On May 26, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Richmond wrote: AND . . . how does one use the plugin to count script lines in a stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
Dear Björnke, It isn't entirely clear to me what the problem is. The message about the forum was meant for people who speak German or Dutch, the message about the meeting was solely for people who speak Dutch. There are still people on this mailing list who aren't a member of the Dutch forum and therefore I wrote about it here. It seemed polite to write in English instead of German and Dutch, because not everybody on this list understands German and Dutch. I don't have date to announce yet. I might announce it here when I have one. The discussion about the meeting is done on the Dutch forum because it is a meeting for Dutch participants and it is easier to communicate about it in Dutch. Hopefully this explains it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 26 mei 2012, at 17:30, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Why not just tell people some information about this meeting on the use list, the official forum etc. I'm sure runrev would retweet any announcements that you have about community meetings (if you tell them to), and there's probably sense in writing a newsletter for revup about this. Asking non-dutch people to join a dutch forum to get information about a not-dutch-exclusive meeting is a pretty roundabout way to make sure that you won't get any participants. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
On 26.05.2012, at 23:44, Mark Schonewille wrote: I don't have date to announce yet. I might announce it here when I have one. The discussion about the meeting is done on the Dutch forum because it is a meeting for Dutch participants and it is easier to communicate about it in Dutch. Oh i just assumed the meeting would be for everyone? Not that I want to help planning, but inviting anyone (no matter the language) is what I'd have planned to do. On a completely unrelated note, anyone know how I can learn dutch within a few weeks? -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
Hi Björnke, It would be really cool to invite you to a meeting here in my country. Perhaps I should ask the attendants about their English or German skills and see if we could invite you as a guest next time? Actually, I think that we would welcome anyone from anywhere, but the initial target group is Dutch LiveCode users. We'll probably be speaking Dutch only unless we have a famous guest from abroad ;-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 26 mei 2012, at 23:53, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 26.05.2012, at 23:44, Mark Schonewille wrote: I don't have date to announce yet. I might announce it here when I have one. The discussion about the meeting is done on the Dutch forum because it is a meeting for Dutch participants and it is easier to communicate about it in Dutch. Oh i just assumed the meeting would be for everyone? Not that I want to help planning, but inviting anyone (no matter the language) is what I'd have planned to do. On a completely unrelated note, anyone know how I can learn dutch within a few weeks? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Dutch and German Forums - Dutch User Group Meeting
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: On a completely unrelated note, anyone know how I can learn dutch within a few weeks? I've had Dutch friends tell me don't even try it's so hard... Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Request for Linux IDE to build for Android submitted
I keep throwing votes on the screen but nothing happens =) now, serious, this feature is way overdue... it should have been there from the start. On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: For those of you using Linux, building mobile apps requires us to move our work to either Mac or Win to make standalones. For iOS this is to be expected; Apple has the right to require that we spend a thousand dollars purchasing a Mac from them to build for their mobile OS. But for Android, the SDK is available for Linux so ideally we should be able to build for Android Linux from desktop Linux without having to spend hundreds of dollars on a copy of Windows to do that in a VM. I was surprised to find that there was no RQCC request for this, so I submitted one: http://quality.runrev.com/**show_bug.cgi?id=10232http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10232 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/**blog.irvhttp://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AnimationEngine Question…?
Hi All… I'm always a little perplexed on where I should post within the RunRev areas? I usually post to the discussion list, here, but noticed that AnimationEngine and a few others have dedicated areas in the forums. In any case, I had a questions about AE. I'm putting a little demo project together (hack) to show what can be done with AE and LC. It is very basic, pulled from examples you've shared online, etc. However, I was trying to utilize the AEStartListeningForCollisions and found that when targets overlap, LC will throw up an error when the bullet strikes one of the overlapping targets. Any ideas? Also, it seems that AEStartListeningForCollisions is also sensitive to the layer of the targets. Almost every run of my example has a target that is impervious to bullets. If I change the layer of the target, I can then hit it. Any ideas? My example stack and original post is here: http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=27t=12078 Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Where Do You Save User Prefs?
Dear LiveCode Masters, Could you experienced folks please give us a concise direction on *where* and *under what name/extension* to save user preferences in the different platforms? 1) MacOS X Prefs Location: specialFolderPath(Preferences) Prefs Name: anything you wish, but convention is that if saving your preferences using your own file format - like a LiveCode stack - then name it something like MyApp Prefs. If saving a .plist file, then use the reverse-domain convention: com.mycompany.myapp.plist. 2) Windows Prefs Location: ??? Prefs Name: ??? 3) Linux Prefs Location: ??? Prefs Name: ??? 4) iOS Prefs Location: ??? Prefs Name: ??? 5) Android Prefs Location: ??? Prefs Name: ??? Your guidance is truly appreciated. Kind regards to all, -- Igor Couto Sydney, Australia ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How Do You UNDO?
Dear LiveCode Experts, A reliable UNDO mechanism is an essential part of most desktop apps. Programming UNDO functionality, however, is not a trivial task, and it usually involves quite a bit of meta-programming: turning function calls into stackable objects, assembling the undo/redo stacks, keeping track of the undo/redo position in the stack, and updating the Undo/Redo menus. To help programmers overcome all this complexity, most frameworks have some sort of 'UndoManager' class or library, that makes it easier on the developer to implement this functionality in their apps. I have not been able to find any documentation on how to do this with LiveCode, and I'm getting quite confused and bogged down trying to think of how to go about implementing something from scratch. I have seen how so many programmers in this list have been developing *all* kinds of applications with LiveCode, seemingly for many years, and therefore I assume that there *must* be a way to implement an undo mechanism in LiveCode, which I'm missing... How do you do it? How do you implement UNDO in your applications? Is there a generic mechanism or technique that you use, or do you re-invent the wheel with every project? Any guidance will be enormously appreciated. -- Igor Couto Sydney, Australia ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Write limited content from different devices to shared Google Drive, anyone
Hi All, Has anyone written a LC project that saves its output data to a file (or, better yet, modifies a file by appending it with new content put at the end) that is on the GOOGLE DRIVE? Google Drive is the new flavor of Google Documents? I want different (3 or 4) devices (laptops, smart phones, iPads) to be able to update content that is merged into one storage document. So, I imagine it is easier to write the LiveCode application to work on a WIN Laptop and much harder to have it work on an iPad. Examples and pointers welcome. -- Ta. Mark Rauterkus mark.rauter...@gmail.com PPS Summer Dreamers' Swim and Water Polo Camp Head Coach with Neighborhood Learning Alliance http://NeighborhoodLearning.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Where Do You Save User Prefs?
Hi Igor, The current Apple directive for OS X preferences is that they should go in: ~/Library/Application Support/app-identifier ~/Library/app-identifier ~/Library/Caches/app-identifier app-identifier can be a folder containing the prefs file or the prefs file itself, and the first of the above three options seems to be the most used. Not sure why the Prefernces folder is not the standard any more but if you put a prefs file there, it won't be accepted into the Mac App Store. Can't be of much help on the other platforms, sorry. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto i...@superstudent.net wrote: 1) MacOS X Prefs Location: specialFolderPath(Preferences) Prefs Name: anything you wish, but convention is that if saving your preferences using your own file format - like a LiveCode stack - then name it something like MyApp Prefs. If saving a .plist file, then use the reverse-domain convention: com.mycompany.myapp.plist. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
ANN: PowerDebug 1.1.7
Folks- We're a month away from the 2011 LiveCode Developer Conference, so I think it's once again time to issue an official PowerDebug update, and there have been some bug fixes and improvements along the way. I'm happy to announce that version 1.1.7 is now available for download. All registered users should have received an update email. I'm *very* happy to announce that editing variables and arrays is now possible when debugging standalone applications. This was a problem before due to the inability to send arrays, and this has now been neatly sidestepped to allow full flow control of standalones from the LiveCode IDE. http://powerdebug.ahsoftware.net http://www.ahsoftware.net/PowerTools/BuyPowerDebug.irev -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How Do You UNDO?
Igor- Saturday, May 26, 2012, 7:42:31 PM, you wrote: How do you do it? How do you implement UNDO in your applications? Is there a generic mechanism or technique that you use, or do you re-invent the wheel with every project? Depends on what you want to undo. Here's what I do in an upcoming change to the glx2 script editor. Here what I'm interested in saving for later undos is the contents of the script editor field. I'm not concerned about changes to other objects. This creates a LIFO stack by setting up a new array element in the undo stack every time I save a change. The state of the script field is recovered by popping the last saved off the top of the stack. Note that not deleting the top element after popping it off the stack allows a redo as well as an undo. local sUndoPointArray /** * UndoPointer * * Return the index of the last-saved state */ private function UndoPointer local tCount put sUndoPointArray[count] into tCount if tCount is empty then put 0 into tCount end if return tCount end UndoPointer /** * InsertUndoScript * * Save the current script for undoing later on */ private command InsertUndoScript local tCount put UndoPointer()+1 into tCount put the htmltext of field kCodeField into sUndoPointArray[tCount] put tCount into sUndoPointArray[count] end InsertUndoScript /** * UndoRefactor * * undo the last-saved state of the text */ command UndoChange local tCount lock screen put UndoPointer() into tCount if tCount 0 then set the htmltext of field kCodeField to sUndoPointArray[tCount] -- decrement the stack pointer put tCount-1 into sUndoPointArray[count] end if unlock screen end UndoChange Hope this helps. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
