Re: Motion Comics tutorial for LiveCode

2013-10-03 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi All,

This zip file contains a folder with all images
of page 25. These images are 8 bit png
files with transparency. Optimized from
6 MB to just 1.3 MB

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9ja3Yvw8cHLcXZiS0gzMHhOTFU/edit?usp=sharing

In a few hours, I will continue with frame 2 of page 26.

If you want to colaborate in the edition of all these bitmap files,
download all unedited bitmap files for this Motion Comics tutorial: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3834621/LiveCode%20Motion%20Comic%20panels%20v001.zip

and perform these tasks: 

1) separate the foreground characters 
from its background 

For Gimp: 
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-separate.html
For Inkscape: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K1YL-JP8jc

2) Seamlessy restore the background 
For Gimp: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiePG0QC4AM

This GIMP file is an example of an image in process of edition:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9ja3Yvw8cHLMUJXeDNQaEhXaVU

Have a nice day!

Al



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Re: Sending mail from on-server

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Christer

I also think there is a problem with access to shell via on-rev (I'm on
pancake)

About a week ago I was messing around with Business Academy Lesson 53 (using
LiveCode Server and Post to relay an email) and couldn't get anywhere. The
server-side script and app were both pretty much exactly the same as in the
lesson; specifically I would post up to the server like this:

post theSubjecttheFromtheMessage to URL \
http://applicationinsight.com/apps/email/newvehicle.lc;

And then directly after check 'it' - which did not return an error. So my
local app thinks everything is OK - but no email gets sent.

The server-side script I'm using is a more-or-less copy from this lesson 
http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4070/l/8184-sending-emails-from-livecode-server-scripts
http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4070/l/8184-sending-emails-from-livecode-server-scripts
  
(but with an added line if the result is not empty then put the result as
recommended by Kevin in the accompanying Lesson 53 video

Interestingly, during my debugging attempts I once sent the POST message by
mistake to the address in the lesson (runtime.on-rev.com) and straight away
got a CC copy of the email in my inbox - so it works just fine on other
servers - just not on mine.

So SOMETHING is wrong with access to shell on the server (my current theory
is that they need to authorise access to it on an individual basis and I've
never tried to use it before). Christer did you by any chance get moved to
pancake recently? If so could it be an authorisation issue?

By the way I emailed support@on-rev about a week ago and apart from the
automated reply never heard any more from them...

Can any of you shed some light?

Kind regards

Dave



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Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 121, Issue 5

2013-10-03 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Merci Rene.

I've got the admission to the French group today.

Greeting from Paris (7) and if you want to take a beer some day, here I am.

Bonjour !


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 I live in Paris (13)
 Bon souvenir de Paris
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Re: Sending mail from on-server

2013-10-03 Thread Roger Eller
It's also possible that your server needs an email server service
installed, or at least configured.

~Roger
On Oct 3, 2013 5:13 AM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com wrote:

 Hi Christer

 I also think there is a problem with access to shell via on-rev (I'm on
 pancake)

 About a week ago I was messing around with Business Academy Lesson 53
 (using
 LiveCode Server and Post to relay an email) and couldn't get anywhere. The
 server-side script and app were both pretty much exactly the same as in the
 lesson; specifically I would post up to the server like this:

 post theSubjecttheFromtheMessage to URL \
 http://applicationinsight.com/apps/email/newvehicle.lc;

 And then directly after check 'it' - which did not return an error. So my
 local app thinks everything is OK - but no email gets sent.

 The server-side script I'm using is a more-or-less copy from this lesson

 http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4070/l/8184-sending-emails-from-livecode-server-scripts
 
 http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4070/l/8184-sending-emails-from-livecode-server-scripts
 
 (but with an added line if the result is not empty then put the result as
 recommended by Kevin in the accompanying Lesson 53 video

 Interestingly, during my debugging attempts I once sent the POST message by
 mistake to the address in the lesson (runtime.on-rev.com) and straight
 away
 got a CC copy of the email in my inbox - so it works just fine on other
 servers - just not on mine.

 So SOMETHING is wrong with access to shell on the server (my current theory
 is that they need to authorise access to it on an individual basis and I've
 never tried to use it before). Christer did you by any chance get moved to
 pancake recently? If so could it be an authorisation issue?

 By the way I emailed support@on-rev about a week ago and apart from the
 automated reply never heard any more from them...

 Can any of you shed some light?

 Kind regards

 Dave



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FieldFormatter: Working group

2013-10-03 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
A new field formatting palette and frontscript library is nearing
completion. The properties palette, syntax and integration are all in place
and working.

- What is its purpose?
In short it separates data from display. Field contents can, for example, be
displayed as currency (or any other arbitrary unit of measure), percentage,
dateTime, time duration or 'privatised', with numeric fields additionally
owning their own numberFormat, negative color, and thousands separator. The
underlying 'text' (or data) is unchanged; as soon as the field loses focus
or as soon as we programmatically change any of the properties, the field
contents change to reflect the new property settings.

- How do we use it?
Either using the properties palette or by script, we can
'set the percentage of fld n to true' : so 0.2 can be displayed as 20%
'set the numeric of fld n to true/false' : so only numbers can be entered
'set the displayChars of fld n to $ : so 10 can be displayed as $10
'set the numericFormat of fld n to 0.00' : so 10 can be displayed as $10.00
'set the showThousands of fld n to true' : so 1250 can be displayed as
$1,250.00
'set the privateChars of fld n to ..' : so pa55w0rd can be displayed
as privatised text
'set the defaultText of fld n to Enter a date here...' : so empty fields
can display gray text help
'set the dhms of fld n to true' : so 70.38 can be displayed as 01 : 10.4
'set the isUSformat of fld n to false' : so 3/6/13 can be displayed as 3
June 2013
'set the dateTimeFormat of fld n to -MMM-dd' : so 3/6/13 can be
displayed as 2013-Jun-03
[.../...] etc
then
'put the rawtext of fld n into tQty' : so we can get the data rather than
the field contents
'set the rawtext of fld total to tQty * tCost' : so we can manipulate the
data and retain formatted displays.
[.../...] etc.

It should all 'just happen' intuitively.

It works with both the LC and MC IDE development environments, so clicking
twice on a field will show the new palette along with the existing IDE
palettes.

- What is needed?
A small group of (preferably seasoned) developers to
[1] review the palette UI
[2] check integration and functionality
[3] critique and make suggestions, especially about the property names and
further functionality
[4] discuss, propose and share with a cc to others involved
[5] thrash the cr*p out of it :)

If interested, please let me know off-list. I agree with Richard G and am
hoping this concept will become mainstream, but it has to 'go with the flow'
and be a seamless extension to the existing 'feel' of LiveCode. Longer term,
I'd like it or something similar to be available at engine level, but this
is something we can all use now.

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Re: Streaming audio without QT

2013-10-03 Thread tbodine
God I need that new player. 

Me, too. Wish it were not so far down the roadmap. 
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Re: FieldFormatter: Working group

2013-10-03 Thread tbodine
That sounds outstanding!
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Re: Sending mail from on-server

2013-10-03 Thread Andrew Kluthe
It's not entirely free but I use a service called Postmark to send emails
for me so that they are less likely to hit spam folders.

It is basically an email delivery system that can use a REST api for
sending mails. You get 1000 credits when you sign up for free and can
purchase more credits for 1.50 per thousand emails.

Most of my emails get sent out from my backend now, but Im sure I still
have a postmark library laying around. If I can't find it, I would be happy
to flesh out the basics again real fast.



On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote:

 It's also possible that your server needs an email server service
 installed, or at least configured.

 ~Roger
 On Oct 3, 2013 5:13 AM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com wrote:

  Hi Christer
 
  I also think there is a problem with access to shell via on-rev (I'm on
  pancake)
 
  About a week ago I was messing around with Business Academy Lesson 53
  (using
  LiveCode Server and Post to relay an email) and couldn't get anywhere.
 The
  server-side script and app were both pretty much exactly the same as in
 the
  lesson; specifically I would post up to the server like this:
 
  post theSubjecttheFromtheMessage to URL \
  http://applicationinsight.com/apps/email/newvehicle.lc;
 
  And then directly after check 'it' - which did not return an error. So my
  local app thinks everything is OK - but no email gets sent.
 
  The server-side script I'm using is a more-or-less copy from this lesson
 
 
 http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4070/l/8184-sending-emails-from-livecode-server-scripts
  
 
 http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4070/l/8184-sending-emails-from-livecode-server-scripts
  
  (but with an added line if the result is not empty then put the result
 as
  recommended by Kevin in the accompanying Lesson 53 video
 
  Interestingly, during my debugging attempts I once sent the POST message
 by
  mistake to the address in the lesson (runtime.on-rev.com) and straight
  away
  got a CC copy of the email in my inbox - so it works just fine on other
  servers - just not on mine.
 
  So SOMETHING is wrong with access to shell on the server (my current
 theory
  is that they need to authorise access to it on an individual basis and
 I've
  never tried to use it before). Christer did you by any chance get moved
 to
  pancake recently? If so could it be an authorisation issue?
 
  By the way I emailed support@on-rev about a week ago and apart from the
  automated reply never heard any more from them...
 
  Can any of you shed some light?
 
  Kind regards
 
  Dave
 
 
 
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iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Ralph DiMola
I seems that ANY files or folders included in the copy files pane of the
standalone setting will cause the LC app in the iOS 7 simulator to hang then
crash. I first thought it was because the files were on an SMB server . I
then moved them local, no go. I then included only a 1 line text file and
that caused the same problem.  This will happen with a new stack with only a
simple answer dialog in the opencard handler. Is anyone else seeing this?
Just wanted to check with the list before I submit a bug report.

 

 

LC 6.1.2 rc1

OSX 10.8.5

Xcode 5, 4.6.3, 4.5.2, 4.4.1, 4.2

Arm7 build.

 

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IT Director

Evergreen Information Services

rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

 

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Re: FieldFormatter: Working group

2013-10-03 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Hugh

This is really a breath of fresh air in that LC is starting to grow up. I
have been saying for awhile that LiveCode will evolve or go away. It may
take developers to move the stake forward in the way other software
languages have come of age. I believe that when the developers start adding
externals and plugins to LC it will start to be a better product. I
understand that there are currently some externals out there, but there is
a ton of new capability that can still be added. For example, I spent weeks
learning how to do programming tasks that should be built into LiveCode in
the properties  dialog. It was all the things your offering in your
properties in this email. This should not require hours of coding to get
such a simple task done. Plus you also covered things that I did not take
time to add like the comma for thousands. That should also be a properties
item in LiveCode just like the numeric settings.


Thank you

Vaughn Clement

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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:07 AM, FlexibleLearning.com 
ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:

 A new field formatting palette and frontscript library is nearing
 completion. The properties palette, syntax and integration are all in place
 and working.

 - What is its purpose?
 In short it separates data from display. Field contents can, for example,
 be
 displayed as currency (or any other arbitrary unit of measure), percentage,
 dateTime, time duration or 'privatised', with numeric fields additionally
 owning their own numberFormat, negative color, and thousands separator. The
 underlying 'text' (or data) is unchanged; as soon as the field loses focus
 or as soon as we programmatically change any of the properties, the field
 contents change to reflect the new property settings.

 - How do we use it?
 Either using the properties palette or by script, we can
 'set the percentage of fld n to true' : so 0.2 can be displayed as 20%
 'set the numeric of fld n to true/false' : so only numbers can be entered
 'set the displayChars of fld n to $ : so 10 can be displayed as $10
 'set the numericFormat of fld n to 0.00' : so 10 can be displayed as $10.00
 'set the showThousands of fld n to true' : so 1250 can be displayed as
 $1,250.00
 'set the privateChars of fld n to ..' : so pa55w0rd can be displayed
 as privatised text
 'set the defaultText of fld n to Enter a date here...' : so empty fields
 can display gray text help
 'set the dhms of fld n to true' : so 70.38 can be displayed as 01 : 10.4
 'set the isUSformat of fld n to false' : so 3/6/13 can be displayed as 3
 June 2013
 'set the dateTimeFormat of fld n to -MMM-dd' : so 3/6/13 can be
 displayed as 2013-Jun-03
 [.../...] etc
 then
 'put the rawtext of fld n into tQty' : so we can get the data rather than
 the field contents
 'set the rawtext of fld total to tQty * tCost' : so we can manipulate the
 data and retain formatted displays.
 [.../...] etc.

 It should all 'just happen' intuitively.

 It works with both the LC and MC IDE development environments, so clicking
 twice on a field will show the new palette along with the existing IDE
 palettes.

 - What is needed?
 A small group of (preferably seasoned) developers to
 [1] review the palette UI
 [2] check integration and functionality
 [3] critique and make suggestions, especially about the property names and
 further functionality
 [4] discuss, propose and share with a cc to others involved
 [5] thrash the cr*p out of it :)

 If interested, please let me know off-list. I agree with Richard G and am
 hoping this concept will become mainstream, but it has to 'go with the
 flow'
 and be a seamless extension to the existing 'feel' of LiveCode. Longer
 term,
 I'd like it or something similar to be available at engine level, but this
 is something we can all use now.

 Best regards,

 Hugh Senior
 FLCo







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Re: Sending mail from on-server

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi, I decided to email support again and got the following reply:


 Thank you for your request.
 
 We are very much aware of this issue and are actively working on it. As
 soon as we 
 have a solution we will let you know.
 
 Regards,
 
 Heather

Roger I use my on-rev account to send and receive emails so does that mean
an email server service is working OK?

Andrew thanks for the info on Postmark, sounds interesting - but please do
be careful who you tell that your emails get sent from your backend :)

Dave



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Re: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Sheffield
Yes, I saw this a couple days ago. I assumed it was one of the externals I was 
including, but apparently that's not the case. It wasn't that critical at the 
time that I test in the simulator, so I didn't take the time to investigate and 
I just did my testing on my device, which worked just fine.

Chris

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www.readnaturally.com



On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:

 I seems that ANY files or folders included in the copy files pane of the
 standalone setting will cause the LC app in the iOS 7 simulator to hang then
 crash. I first thought it was because the files were on an SMB server . I
 then moved them local, no go. I then included only a 1 line text file and
 that caused the same problem.  This will happen with a new stack with only a
 simple answer dialog in the opencard handler. Is anyone else seeing this?
 Just wanted to check with the list before I submit a bug report.
 
 
 
 
 
 LC 6.1.2 rc1
 
 OSX 10.8.5
 
 Xcode 5, 4.6.3, 4.5.2, 4.4.1, 4.2
 
 Arm7 build.
 
 
 
 Ralph DiMola
 
 IT Director
 
 Evergreen Information Services
 
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
 
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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Ralph DiMola
Same here. I finally got tired of using the device for simple changes and
wanted to test via remote access. I thought at first it was a mergeExt
external(Sorry Monte). I wanted to track this down. I will submit a bug
report.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Sheffield
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:44 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

Yes, I saw this a couple days ago. I assumed it was one of the externals I
was including, but apparently that's not the case. It wasn't that critical
at the time that I test in the simulator, so I didn't take the time to
investigate and I just did my testing on my device, which worked just fine.

Chris

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www.readnaturally.com



On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:

 I seems that ANY files or folders included in the copy files pane of 
 the standalone setting will cause the LC app in the iOS 7 simulator to 
 hang then crash. I first thought it was because the files were on an 
 SMB server . I then moved them local, no go. I then included only a 1 
 line text file and that caused the same problem.  This will happen 
 with a new stack with only a simple answer dialog in the opencard handler.
Is anyone else seeing this?
 Just wanted to check with the list before I submit a bug report.
 
 
 
 
 
 LC 6.1.2 rc1
 
 OSX 10.8.5
 
 Xcode 5, 4.6.3, 4.5.2, 4.4.1, 4.2
 
 Arm7 build.
 
 
 
 Ralph DiMola
 
 IT Director
 
 Evergreen Information Services
 
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
 
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Re: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi both

I include a folder with sub-folders and lots of image files in the 'copy'
screen of standalone settings in a stack I'm working on and the first time I
tried to get the iOS7 simulator working it failed but second time onwards
it's been fine. 

However the only thing I do with the files is to set the filename of various
image objects in the stack during startup.

And amazingly, even the 64bit simulator




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Re: FieldFormatter: Working group

2013-10-03 Thread Mark Talluto
On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com 
wrote:

 A new field formatting palette and frontscript library is nearing
 completion. The properties palette, syntax and integration are all in place
 and working….


Very cool work you have done here Hugh!  I would like to give it a spin.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
canelasoftware.com
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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Ralph DiMola
I tried resetting the simulator and trying to run it with all types of local
file and same hang/crash. What did you do to get it working? Just do it
twice? That did not work for me. I submitted a bug
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11252


Ralph DiMola
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Kilroy
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:07 PM
To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

Hi both

I include a folder with sub-folders and lots of image files in the 'copy'
screen of standalone settings in a stack I'm working on and the first time I
tried to get the iOS7 simulator working it failed but second time onwards
it's been fine. 

However the only thing I do with the files is to set the filename of various
image objects in the stack during startup.

And amazingly, even the 64bit simulator




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Re: FieldFormatter: Working group

2013-10-03 Thread Andrew Kluthe
function GoodAdvice pPatience
   switch pPatience
  case sLearningCurve  pPatience
 exit to top
 break
  case sLearningCurve = pPatience
 return GoodAdvice(pPatience * 10)
 break
  default
 return progress!
 break
   end switch
end GoodAdvice

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Hugh

 This is really a breath of fresh air in that LC is starting to grow up. I
 have been saying for awhile that LiveCode will evolve or go away. It may
 take developers to move the stake forward in the way other software
 languages have come of age. I believe that when the developers start adding
 externals and plugins to LC it will start to be a better product. I
 understand that there are currently some externals out there, but there is
 a ton of new capability that can still be added. For example, I spent weeks
 learning how to do programming tasks that should be built into LiveCode in
 the properties  dialog. It was all the things your offering in your
 properties in this email. This should not require hours of coding to get
 such a simple task done. Plus you also covered things that I did not take
 time to add like the comma for thousands. That should also be a properties
 item in LiveCode just like the numeric settings.


 Thank you

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 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:07 AM, FlexibleLearning.com 
 ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote:

  A new field formatting palette and frontscript library is nearing
  completion. The properties palette, syntax and integration are all in
 place
  and working.
 
  - What is its purpose?
  In short it separates data from display. Field contents can, for example,
  be
  displayed as currency (or any other arbitrary unit of measure),
 percentage,
  dateTime, time duration or 'privatised', with numeric fields additionally
  owning their own numberFormat, negative color, and thousands separator.
 The
  underlying 'text' (or data) is unchanged; as soon as the field loses
 focus
  or as soon as we programmatically change any of the properties, the field
  contents change to reflect the new property settings.
 
  - How do we use it?
  Either using the properties palette or by script, we can
  'set the percentage of fld n to true' : so 0.2 can be displayed as 20%
  'set the numeric of fld n to true/false' : so only numbers can be entered
  'set the displayChars of fld n to $ : so 10 can be displayed as $10
  'set the numericFormat of fld n to 0.00' : so 10 can be displayed as
 $10.00
  'set the showThousands of fld n to true' : so 1250 can be displayed as
  $1,250.00
  'set the privateChars of fld n to ..' : so pa55w0rd can be
 displayed
  as privatised text
  'set the defaultText of fld n to Enter a date here...' : so empty
 fields
  can display gray text help
  'set the dhms of fld n to true' : so 70.38 can be displayed as 01 : 10.4
  'set the isUSformat of fld n to false' : so 3/6/13 can be displayed as 3
  June 2013
  'set the dateTimeFormat of fld n to -MMM-dd' : so 3/6/13 can be
  displayed as 2013-Jun-03
  [.../...] etc
  then
  'put the rawtext of fld n into tQty' : so we can get the data rather than
  the field contents
  'set the rawtext of fld total to tQty * tCost' : so we can manipulate
 the
  data and retain formatted displays.
  [.../...] etc.
 
  It should all 'just happen' intuitively.
 
  It works with both the LC and MC IDE development environments, so
 clicking
  twice on a field will show the new palette along with the existing IDE
  palettes.
 
  - What is needed?
  A small group of (preferably seasoned) developers to
  [1] review the palette UI
  [2] check integration and functionality
  [3] critique and make suggestions, especially about the property names
 and
  further functionality
  [4] discuss, propose and share with a cc to others involved
  [5] thrash the cr*p out of it :)
 
  If interested, please let me know off-list. I agree with Richard G and am
  hoping this concept will become mainstream, but it has to 'go with the
  flow'
  and be a seamless extension to the existing 'feel' of LiveCode. Longer
  term,
  I'd like it or something similar to be available at engine level, but
 this
  is something we can all use now.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Hugh Senior
  FLCo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
Ralph how strange - and yes all I did was to quit the simulator and try
again.

And my setup sounds very similar to yours (OSX 10.8.5, LC 6.1.2 rc1, xCode
5, 4.52, 4.5.1, iOS simulator 5 upwards) - I'm on a mid-2010 MBP 2.4 GHz
Intel Core 2 Duo with 8gb of ram

The only things I can think of are that I'm only including .png files (as
opposed to .txt files) and lastly, maybe there is something in file naming
(I don't have any with spaces in their names)?

Dave 



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Arrow keys in datagrid

2013-10-03 Thread Marty Knapp
I have a form style datagrid and when I use the arrowKeys to try to 
scroll through the records, the down arrow works as expected, but when 
you press the up arrow, it deselects the row and pressing it a second 
time it goes right to the first record rather than the previous record. 
There is one exception to this - if row 2 is selected and you press the 
up arrow key, it will select row 1. I don't see any arrowKey handlers 
anywhere. Any clues?


Thanks,
Marty K.

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Re: 6.1.2 rc1

2013-10-03 Thread Mike Kerner
Either I missed something in the release notes for one of the last couple
of versions, or it wasn't there.

In 6.1.2 rc1, if you right-click on a handler or function name, and the
source for that handler or function is in a substack, you can go to its
definition.

Can I just say :-)


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote:

 Hi Ralph,

 No problem, we were the ones who made it publicly available.

 Warm regards,

 Ben


 On 26 September 2013 14:57, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 wrote:

  Ben,
 
  Sorry for stirring to pot about an internal version. I will wait for the
  official announcement from now on.
 
 
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  Evergreen Information Services
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  -Original Message-
  From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
  Behalf
  Of Benjamin Beaumont
  Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 6:42 AM
  To: How to use LiveCode
  Subject: Re: 6.1.2 rc1
 
  Hi All,
 
  The final stage of our internal test process sees us upload builds run
 the
  auto-updater across our internal system. Once we are satisfied that the
  updater has delivered the build correctly to all platforms and that basic
  development and deployment is successful, we flip a switch in the
  auto-updater making it live to the general public.
 
  During this final test stage for 6.1.2 RC1 we discovered that our changes
  for xCode 5 were not complete and that there were issues deploying
  standalone's to devices. As a result, we made changes and rebuilt 6.1.2
 RC1
  a number times over the last 24 hours. If you downloaded 6.1.2 RC1 in the
  last 24 hours we recommend deleting that installation and downloading
 again
  now that the 6.1.2 RC1 release is official.
 
  We will be modifying our internal process so that the directories are
  restricted until releases are official to ensure that users don't
  accidentally download internal test builds.
 
  Warm regards,
 
  Ben
 
 
  On 25 September 2013 15:21, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Just spotted it:
  
   http://downloads.livecode.com/**livecode/6_1_2/http://downloads.livec
   ode.com/livecode/6_1_2/
  
   be there or be square!
  
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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Ralph DiMola
I tried the restart and no-go then a content reset and no-go. I tried with a
simple t.rtf and same thing... hang then crash

I'm on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro 2 GHz with 4 Gig.

I just tried a system reboot and no-go.


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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Kilroy
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:42 PM
To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com
Subject: RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

Ralph how strange - and yes all I did was to quit the simulator and try
again.

And my setup sounds very similar to yours (OSX 10.8.5, LC 6.1.2 rc1, xCode
5, 4.52, 4.5.1, iOS simulator 5 upwards) - I'm on a mid-2010 MBP 2.4 GHz
Intel Core 2 Duo with 8gb of ram

The only things I can think of are that I'm only including .png files (as
opposed to .txt files) and lastly, maybe there is something in file naming
(I don't have any with spaces in their names)?

Dave 



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Re: Sending mail from on-server

2013-10-03 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Dave Kilroy wrote:

 Hi, I decided to email support again and got the following reply:


  Thank you for your request.
 
  We are very much aware of this issue and are actively working on it. As
  soon as we
  have a solution we will let you know.
 
  Regards,
 
  Heather

 Roger I use my on-rev account to send and receive emails so does that mean
 an email server service is working OK?


Yes. If you're able to send emails via server scripts then the email
service is working.  There could be more than one server configured to do
this, so as the support email suggests, they are aware and are working on
it.  I don't have on-rev btw, but have delt with smtp services before.



 Andrew thanks for the info on Postmark, sounds interesting - but please do
 be careful who you tell that your emails get sent from your backend :)


Is that server configured for assynchronous communications?  shameful



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Re: Motion Comics tutorial for LiveCode

2013-10-03 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi All,

I have just uploaded the textures that I am using
with Resynthesizer to edit the characters out from
the background:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9ja3Yvw8cHLeWk5RTJMUGpxU2s/edit?usp=sharing

Are you interesting in helping?
Then download these edited panels:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9ja3Yvw8cHLcXZiS0gzMHhOTFU/edit?usp=sharing
These are all panels from page 25.

Just noticed that sometimes is really difficult to get GIMP working at full
capacity
under Windows. If you are using Windows, you must install Python 2.7.x
before installing Gimp: http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7.5/

Notice: GIMP is not compatible with Python 3. For this reason,
you must install the lastest release of Python 2.

You could download a windows GIMP installer from this page:
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html

Here, you could download Resynthesizer:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/27986

Installation instructions are here:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/25219
There are 9 pages of comments in this pages, so if you have
a question about Resynthesizer, it was already answered
in these pages.

This is an excellent and eye opening tutorial:
http://www.schwarzvogel.de/resynth-tut-sa.shtml

This GIMP file is an example of a panel in process of edition:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9ja3Yvw8cHLMUJXeDNQaEhXaVU

The final results are the png files from the first link of
this message.

Please, do not hesitate to ask if the tutorials about using
Resynthesizer does not work in your installation.

Notice, please, from this sprites used in this Motion Comics tutorial,
you will be able to make your own tutorial, not only about Motion Comics,
but Interactive Storytelling and Games.

A famous game franchise, a Billionare game franchise, could be
recreated easily using the capabilities of this platform.
Could you guess which franchise I am talking about?

Have a nice day!

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Re: Sending mail from on-server

2013-10-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Roger-

Thursday, October 3, 2013, 11:44:11 AM, you wrote:

 Is that server configured for assynchronous communications?  shameful

groan

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Re: Sending mail from on-server

2013-10-03 Thread Andrew Kluthe
ZING!


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Roger-

 Thursday, October 3, 2013, 11:44:11 AM, you wrote:

  Is that server configured for assynchronous communications?  shameful

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SocketTimeOut message

2013-10-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
I need to understand this better. The dictionary says the 
socketTimeoutInterval specifies how long to wait before sending back a 
timeout message. It sounds like the timeout doesn't affect the data 
transmission, it's only a warning, and the data will be sent eventually. 
Is that correct?


The dictionary also says the default interval is ten seconds, but I'm 
seeing timeouts in much less time than that. Maybe the dictionary is wrong?


What's a good timeout interval for iffy network connections?

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Re: SocketTimeOut message

2013-10-03 Thread Phil Davis

On 10/3/13 2:40 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I need to understand this better. The dictionary says the 
socketTimeoutInterval specifies how long to wait before sending back a 
timeout message. It sounds like the timeout doesn't affect the data 
transmission, it's only a warning, and the data will be sent 
eventually. Is that correct?


That's my experience in a LAN-based client/server system. The message 
fires every time another (socketTimeoutInterval) msecs goes by, until 
the transfer is complete or until the connection breaks.




The dictionary also says the default interval is ten seconds, but I'm 
seeing timeouts in much less time than that. Maybe the dictionary is 
wrong?


Heeey, is that possible?  ;-)



What's a good timeout interval for iffy network connections?

Trial and error will tell you the truth. I can only speculate. I think 
in the aforementioned LAN-based system we use 20 seconds due to some 
occasionally large datastream sizes. We set it that high to avoid 
interrupting user activity with an information-only dialog.


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It is almost never safe to assume your code is perfect

2013-10-03 Thread Geoff Canyon
Back in 2005(!) Malte came up with the brilliant idea of using oval
graphics with their arcangle set to 0 in order to easily create the hands
of a clock. Interestingly, the rendering of oval graphics seems to have
changed since then -- setting the arcangle to 0 now doesn't draw the angle
itself, so there is no hand. You can still set the arcangle to something
like 5 and the linesize to 10 to get the tip of a hand the way some stylish
clocks/watches do.

Malte posted his 12 line solution, and others set about improving it. Here
was my final entry, which I remember being quite happy with:


on openCard
   setTime
end openCard

local sHourAngle -- the angle for the hour hand
local sMinuteAngle -- the angle for the minute hand

on setTime
   put word 1 of the long time into T
   put T  the long seconds into fld time
   split T using :
   get 90 - (30 * T[1]) - trunc(T[2] / 2)
   if it is not sHourAngle then
 put it into sHourAngle
 set the startangle of grc hour to sHourAngle
   end if
   get 90 - (6 * T[2]) - trunc(T[3] / 10)
   if it is not sMinuteAngle then
 put it into sMinuteAngle
 set the startangle of grc minute to sMinuteAngle
   end if
   set the startangle of grc second to 90 - (6 * T[3])
   send setTime to me in (1 - (the long seconds mod 1)) seconds
end setTime


It requires two local variables and is 17 lines long -- 5 lines longer than
Malte's, but more efficient because of its send..in construction, and
because it only updates the minute and hour hands when needed.


Here is the original
threadhttp://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2005-May/058249.html.
It came up in conversation today, so I went and looked it up. Of course,
looking at my code now, I immediately see it for the glaring hack job that
it is. Here is my update, in 11 lines counting the on and end, and
still only updating the minute and hour hands when needed.


on mouseUp
   setTime
end mouseUp

on setTime
   put word 1 of the long time into T
   put T  the long seconds into fld time
   split T using :
   set the startangle of grc second to 90 - (6 * T[3])
   if T[3] mod 10 = 0 then
  set the startangle of grc minute to 90 - (6 * T[2]) - (T[3] div 10)
  if T[2] mod 2 = 0 then set the startangle of grc hour to 90 - (30 *
T[1]) - (T[2] div 2)
   end if
   send setTime to me in (1 - (the long seconds mod 1)) seconds
end setTime

I could drop it a further two lines with this in place of the if structure:

on setTime
   put word 1 of the long time into T
   put T  the long seconds into fld time
   split T using :
   set the startangle of grc second to 90 - (6 * T[3])
   if T[3] mod 10 = 0 then set the startangle of grc minute to 90 - (6 *
T[2]) - (T[3] div 10)
   if T[3] mod 10 = 0 and  T[2] mod 2 = 0 then set the startangle of grc
hour to 90 - (30 * T[1]) - (T[2] div 2)
   send setTime to me in (1 - (the long seconds mod 1)) seconds
end setTime

Never be satisfied.

gc
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Re: SocketTimeOut message

2013-10-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

Thanks, that's just what I needed to know.

On 10/3/13 5:11 PM, Phil Davis wrote:

On 10/3/13 2:40 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

I need to understand this better. The dictionary says the
socketTimeoutInterval specifies how long to wait before sending back a
timeout message. It sounds like the timeout doesn't affect the data
transmission, it's only a warning, and the data will be sent
eventually. Is that correct?


That's my experience in a LAN-based client/server system. The message
fires every time another (socketTimeoutInterval) msecs goes by, until
the transfer is complete or until the connection breaks.



The dictionary also says the default interval is ten seconds, but I'm
seeing timeouts in much less time than that. Maybe the dictionary is
wrong?


Heeey, is that possible?  ;-)



What's a good timeout interval for iffy network connections?


Trial and error will tell you the truth. I can only speculate. I think
in the aforementioned LAN-based system we use 20 seconds due to some
occasionally large datastream sizes. We set it that high to avoid
interrupting user activity with an information-only dialog.




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Re: SocketTimeOut message

2013-10-03 Thread Roger Eller
On Oct 3, 2013 5:40 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 I need to understand this better. The dictionary says the
socketTimeoutInterval specifies how long to wait before sending back a
timeout message. It sounds like the timeout doesn't affect the data
transmission, it's only a warning, and the data will be sent eventually. Is
that correct?

 The dictionary also says the default interval is ten seconds, but I'm
seeing timeouts in much less time than that. Maybe the dictionary is wrong?

 What's a good timeout interval for iffy network connections?

It saddens me to say this, but LiveCode itself has always been iffy at ftp
transfers.  I've set the socketTimeoutInterval all over the spectrum, and
never found a solid solution.  On the same network, all other FTP clients
would work perfectly every time.  I finally had to build a retry routine
since we can't even resume a transfer.  We seriously need a new libUrl.


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Re: SocketTimeOut message

2013-10-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 10/3/13 6:01 PM, Roger Eller wrote:


It saddens me to say this, but LiveCode itself has always been iffy at ftp
transfers.  I've set the socketTimeoutInterval all over the spectrum, and
never found a solid solution.  On the same network, all other FTP clients
would work perfectly every time.  I finally had to build a retry routine
since we can't even resume a transfer.  We seriously need a new libUrl.


I'm not using FTP, just http, so maybe I'll be okay. But from Phil's 
answer, it sounds like the timeout message is just informational, and 
libURL keeps trying to send until it goes through. So maybe you don't 
need a resend?


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Re: SocketTimeOut message

2013-10-03 Thread Roger Eller
I have a project that will be downloading hundreds of 150MB+ files per
day.  Often the file will end with only a few bytes missing, and it doesn't
go back for the rest no matter how long it waits.  So, I re-download until
the whole thing is accounted for.

~Roger
On Oct 3, 2013 7:17 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 On 10/3/13 6:01 PM, Roger Eller wrote:

  It saddens me to say this, but LiveCode itself has always been iffy at ftp
 transfers.  I've set the socketTimeoutInterval all over the spectrum, and
 never found a solid solution.  On the same network, all other FTP clients
 would work perfectly every time.  I finally had to build a retry routine
 since we can't even resume a transfer.  We seriously need a new libUrl.


 I'm not using FTP, just http, so maybe I'll be okay. But from Phil's
 answer, it sounds like the timeout message is just informational, and
 libURL keeps trying to send until it goes through. So maybe you don't need
 a resend?

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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
have you tried with a .png?



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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
and maybe try a file within a folder and not 'bare' on its own? (I include a
folder and all its contents rather than specific files)



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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
Sorry Ralph, I see you've already tried these - I have no idea why its
failing for you, maybe something lurking that will bite my app tomorrow :(



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RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash

2013-10-03 Thread Ralph DiMola
Thanks! I will wait and see if RR can reproduce from the bug report!

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Sorry Ralph, I see you've already tried these - I have no idea why its
failing for you, maybe something lurking that will bite my app tomorrow :(



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Re: SocketTimeOut message

2013-10-03 Thread Phil Davis

On 10/3/13 4:16 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 10/3/13 6:01 PM, Roger Eller wrote:

It saddens me to say this, but LiveCode itself has always been iffy 
at ftp
transfers.  I've set the socketTimeoutInterval all over the spectrum, 
and
never found a solid solution.  On the same network, all other FTP 
clients

would work perfectly every time.  I finally had to build a retry routine
since we can't even resume a transfer.  We seriously need a new libUrl.


I'm not using FTP, just http, so maybe I'll be okay. But from Phil's 
answer, it sounds like the timeout message is just informational, and 
libURL keeps trying to send until it goes through. So maybe you don't 
need a resend?


Just for the record, the experience I described is with straight TCP 
sockets (open socket, read/write, close socket), not HTTP, not FTP. But 
I would guess a socketTimeout message probably has the same 
characteristics in all cases.


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