date:20170718

Just out of interest, if it is not having the dictionary that makes them
'unusable', does it launch correctly in a browser if you change the script
of revIDEBrowserWidgetUnavailable to return true?

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> On 07/18/2017 02:39 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> > @Mark
> > What reasons? I mean, if we don't know what are the issues preventing you
> > from using dp7/8, they are not likely to be fixed in dp9.
>
> Not to worry. Nothing that hasn't been reported already and is being
> worked on.
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Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-18 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Don't know if it helps, but I didn't see this behavior. I frequently turn 
on the backdrop when screen sharing and turn it off later. I wonder if the 
problem only occurs if there is no preference set yet?


Mac OS X El Capitan.
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 wrote:



On 07/18/2017 08:55 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:


On 19 Jul 2017, at 1:42 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Yep. LiveCode (any version) is now completely unusable for me.


Completely unusable might be overstating things a touch don’t you think? 
There is a menu to remove the backdrop (View > Backdrop). Looking at the PR 
it was meant to only set the backdrop if users were still in the first run 
mode of the start center. We will need to investigate why it has impacted 
others.


Nothing but a backdrop. Takes over the screen. Everything else is hidden
behind the gray featureless backdrop. I had to alt-tab to a terminal
window (what if I didn't have one already running?) in order to kill -9
livecode.

And that means that there's no way to access the menu to undo the
damage. I had to remove my preferences files (which incidentally grew by
a couple of orders of magnitude) and recreate them.

No. I don't think that's overstating things *a touch*

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Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same


> On 19 Jul 2017, at 2:10 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nothing but a backdrop. Takes over the screen. Everything else is hidden 
> behind the gray featureless backdrop. I had to alt-tab to a terminal window 
> (what if I didn't have one already running?) in order to kill -9 livecode.
> 
> And that means that there's no way to access the menu to undo the damage. I 
> had to remove my preferences files (which incidentally grew by a couple of 
> orders of magnitude) and recreate them.
> 
> No. I don't think that's overstating things *a touch*


So you had no access to either the view menu to change the setting or the file 
menu to exit normally? That is odd and it appears you reported it a while ago 
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17323 


Well a fix for one or the other is going to be a blocker for this release

Cheers

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Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same


On 07/18/2017 08:55 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 19 Jul 2017, at 1:42 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Yep. LiveCode (any version) is now completely unusable for me.


Completely unusable might be overstating things a touch don’t you think? There is 
a menu to remove the backdrop (View > Backdrop). Looking at the PR it was meant 
to only set the backdrop if users were still in the first run mode of the start 
center. We will need to investigate why it has impacted others.


Nothing but a backdrop. Takes over the screen. Everything else is hidden 
behind the gray featureless backdrop. I had to alt-tab to a terminal 
window (what if I didn't have one already running?) in order to kill -9 
livecode.


And that means that there's no way to access the menu to undo the 
damage. I had to remove my preferences files (which incidentally grew by 
a couple of orders of magnitude) and recreate them.


No. I don't think that's overstating things *a touch*

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Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

> On 19 Jul 2017, at 1:42 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep. LiveCode (any version) is now completely unusable for me.

Completely unusable might be overstating things a touch don’t you think? There 
is a menu to remove the backdrop (View > Backdrop). Looking at the PR it was 
meant to only set the backdrop if users were still in the first run mode of the 
start center. We will need to investigate why it has impacted others.

Cheers

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Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same


On 07/18/2017 04:37 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:

I haven't seen this type of user abuse since StarOffice 4 . . .

Opening 8.1.6-rc2 turns on a backdrop. (Mac Sierra)

Even worse, it sets a default so that launching RC1 has that backdrop.

It took me a while to figure out what the evil sheet over my desktop was .
. .

(staroffice 4 bit into that "take over the whole screen, and *we* are the
windowing authority.  I stayed with 3 until 5 came out . . .)



Yep. LiveCode (any version) is now completely unusable for me.

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Re: [ANN] TinyDictionary updated to display Synonyms

2017-07-18 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode

Brian and Bernd, thank you for this!! I use it all the time now and I love it.

Cheers,

Roger


> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:59 PM, BNig via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brian Milby contributed to tinyDictinary the extraction of synonyms. He also
> submitted a pull request to add synonyms to the built-in dictionary
> 
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5669
> 
> Synonyms now are part of the built-in dictionary as of LC9 DP8.
> TinyDictionary displays synomyms in LC version 8.1 and up.
> 
> TinyDict now is at version 0.8.2
> 
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
> 
> 
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Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

2017-07-18 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode

I haven't seen this type of user abuse since StarOffice 4 . . .

Opening 8.1.6-rc2 turns on a backdrop. (Mac Sierra)

Even worse, it sets a default so that launching RC1 has that backdrop.

It took me a while to figure out what the evil sheet over my desktop was .
. .

(staroffice 4 bit into that "take over the whole screen, and *we* are the
windowing authority.  I stayed with 3 until 5 came out . . .)

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[ANN] TinyDictionary updated to display Synonyms

2017-07-18 Thread BNig via use-livecode

Brian Milby contributed to tinyDictinary the extraction of synonyms. He also
submitted a pull request to add synonyms to the built-in dictionary

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5669

Synonyms now are part of the built-in dictionary as of LC9 DP8.
TinyDictionary displays synomyms in LC version 8.1 and up.

TinyDict now is at version 0.8.2

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary

Kind regards
Bernd



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2


On 07/18/2017 02:39 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

@Mark
What reasons? I mean, if we don't know what are the issues preventing you
from using dp7/8, they are not likely to be fixed in dp9.


Not to worry. Nothing that hasn't been reported already and is being 
worked on.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode

@Mark
What reasons? I mean, if we don't know what are the issues preventing you
from using dp7/8, they are not likely to be fixed in dp9.

Best,
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> On 07/18/2017 02:02 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Do you mean the one that we can't reproduce, or the one that's fixed in 9
>> DP 7? ;-)
>>
>
> Dunno - dp7/8 are unusable for me for a number of reasons.
> I'm looking forward to dp9.
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2


On 07/18/2017 02:02 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote:

Do you mean the one that we can't reproduce, or the one that's fixed in 9
DP 7? ;-)


Dunno - dp7/8 are unusable for me for a number of reasons.
I'm looking forward to dp9.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Do you mean the one that we can't reproduce, or the one that's fixed in 9
DP 7? ;-)

Either way, it will be exactly the same mechanism, better to find and fix
your issue than to rewrite all the code and risk introducing new bugs.

If I have my way the standalone settings will go the same route.

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> On 07/18/2017 01:06 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'*
> >> on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...
> >>
> >
> > Ahem: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20098
> > ;-)
>
> +1
>
> That would be great.
> ...but *please* don't use that resizing mechanism that makes the PI
> change its size and position every time I sneeze.
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2


On 07/18/2017 01:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

cf. Jacque's "Twilight Zone".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomintroll

We Europeans .  .  .


That's slightly different from the original link, and aside from the 
troll reference I'm not sure how this is a replacement from the R-word.


I like the asteroid thing, but I prefer Asterix.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2


On 07/18/2017 01:06 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote:

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:



Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'*
on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...



Ahem: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20098
;-)


+1

That would be great.
...but *please* don't use that resizing mechanism that makes the PI 
change its size and position every time I sneeze.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


And, Ahum +

Richmond.

On 7/18/17 11:06 pm, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote:

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'*
on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...


Ahem: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20098
;-)
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


cf. Jacque's "Twilight Zone".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomintroll

We Europeans .  .  .

Richmond.

On 7/18/17 10:09 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 07/18/2017 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

:)

So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The 
Groke, ...


WTF?



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'*
> on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...
>

Ahem: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20098
;-)
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2


On 07/18/2017 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

:)

So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ...


WTF?

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode

Thanks for adjusting/modifying the default handler list. Looks so much better 
now.

Matthias

Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
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> Am 18.07.2017 um 18:30 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2.
> 
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ 
>  or via
> the automatic updater.
> 
> 
> Release Contents
> 
> 
> LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2 contains 14 bugfixes and improvements. Since the last
> stable version (8.1.5), more than 40 bugs have been fixed.
> 
> After taking community feedback into consideration we have made the
> following improvements to the default handlers feature (added in LiveCode
> 8.1.6 RC-1):
> 
> Default Handlers: Make text of default handlers grey to emphasise they do
> not yet exist
> Default Handlers: Increase space between default handlers and extant ones
> Default Handlers: If default handler name begins with P, ensure its first
> char is not removed
> Default Handlers: Add SE preference
> Default Handlers: Ensure the params of a default handler are not LC
> reserved words
> 
> Moreover, we have added 2 new interactive tutorials. You can access them
> from the Start Center.
> 
> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_6/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_6_rc_2.pdf 
> 
> 
> 
> Feedback
> 
> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
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> 
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Re: Should RunRev create a testing circle for developers?

2017-07-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

jonathandlynch wrote:

> Would it be helpful if the Mothership had a group activity where
> developers could put in a certain number of hours testing others'
> apps, and then cash in for an equal number of hours from other
> developers getting their own apps tested?

I think such a pool is a very good idea, and perhaps even a great one if 
we do it ourselves without encumbering the company with managing it.

There's little the company could contribute to such an effort that we 
couldn't do ourselves, and moving that responsibility to them would take 
time away from the tasks where that team is uniquely valuable, those 
requiring C++ expertise.

If you would like to manage this project you may consider creating a 
thread for it in the Community Projects section of the forums, where the 
governance details can be worked out in collaboration with others:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=108

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


Just as long as we don't get a bad case of hattifatteners!

Richmond.

On 7/18/17 9:19 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

:)

So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ...

Sent from my iPhone


On 18 Jul 2017, at 19:12, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Well; if the lot in Edinburgh are Moomins I'm a very opinionated Hemulen:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=29487=156063#p155838

"All in the best possible taste", Richmond.



On 7/18/17 8:53 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback
into consideration" we should all 'jump on'
anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as
soon as possible.

Alternative *concrete* suggestions are *always* helpful. (Just saying - 'I 
don't like it' or variants there-of somewhat less so ;)).

After all, it is hard to find the 'best' way when there is only one *effective* 
option on the table.

Of course, the ideal situation is that we always find a way for everybody to 
have their cake *and* eat it :)

At present, this does seem largely possible by 'adding a preference'...

Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* on how 
prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...

Warmest Regards,

* For those that haven't encountered this before - we aren't allowed to use 
R*F*CT*R, as it brings Kevin out in hives... Thus we use 'moomin' 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin) instead as they are entirely inoffensive 
characters (on the whole, at least).


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

:)

So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ...

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jul 2017, at 19:12, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well; if the lot in Edinburgh are Moomins I'm a very opinionated Hemulen:
> 
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=29487=156063#p155838
> 
> "All in the best possible taste", Richmond.
> 
> 
>> On 7/18/17 8:53 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
>>> On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>>> This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback
>>> into consideration" we should all 'jump on'
>>> anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as
>>> soon as possible.
>> 
>> Alternative *concrete* suggestions are *always* helpful. (Just saying - 'I 
>> don't like it' or variants there-of somewhat less so ;)).
>> 
>> After all, it is hard to find the 'best' way when there is only one 
>> *effective* option on the table.
>> 
>> Of course, the ideal situation is that we always find a way for everybody to 
>> have their cake *and* eat it :)
>> 
>> At present, this does seem largely possible by 'adding a preference'...
>> 
>> Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* on 
>> how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...
>> 
>> Warmest Regards,
>> 
>> * For those that haven't encountered this before - we aren't allowed to use 
>> R*F*CT*R, as it brings Kevin out in hives... Thus we use 'moomin' 
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin) instead as they are entirely 
>> inoffensive characters (on the whole, at least).
>> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


Well; if the lot in Edinburgh are Moomins I'm a very opinionated Hemulen:

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6=29487=156063#p155838

"All in the best possible taste", Richmond.


On 7/18/17 8:53 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback
into consideration" we should all 'jump on'
anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as
soon as possible.


Alternative *concrete* suggestions are *always* helpful. (Just saying 
- 'I don't like it' or variants there-of somewhat less so ;)).


After all, it is hard to find the 'best' way when there is only one 
*effective* option on the table.


Of course, the ideal situation is that we always find a way for 
everybody to have their cake *and* eat it :)


At present, this does seem largely possible by 'adding a preference'...

Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* 
on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...


Warmest Regards,

* For those that haven't encountered this before - we aren't allowed 
to use R*F*CT*R, as it brings Kevin out in hives... Thus we use 
'moomin' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin) instead as they are 
entirely inoffensive characters (on the whole, at least).




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Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?


On 2017-07-18 19:25, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote:

Mark,

Thanks for the very helpful info and the quick reply!  In my case, I
am displaying a very simple webpage as a type of preview.  So, the
latest html compatibility isn’t an issue.  For this project, I’ll
manually remove the libcef.dll and move forward.


You're welcome.

We've periodically discussed internally using Edge on Windows for the 
browser widget (as an option) for the cases where you just need a 
browser for specific things (e.g. OAuth).


However, as it stands, CEF is giving us enough trouble just now so 
sorting that out sits wy further up in priorities.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

P.S. We've also discussed 'bringing back' CEF on Mac - as then you have 
an option for 100% cross-desktop platform consistent option for an 
embedded browser. However that is contingent on whether they've sorted 
out a rather critical issue with its memory management (related to 
autorelease pools) which breaks things when CEF is used as the slave (it 
is okay when CEF was the host - which is one of the biggest use cases of 
that project - e.g. Spotify and Steam use it for their Desktop UIs on 
all platforms).


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8


On 07/18/2017 06:46 AM, Bob Hall via use-livecode wrote:

I’ve had the completion capability on my local dev environment for a couple of 
years via a plugin that I wrote. I wrestled with these same problems years ago. 
I actually find that it is benefitial to have BOTH completion and no 
completion. Having a setting to change this is combersome. It is an on-the-fly 
desire.


Here's my take on that... with a simple addition you can bracket 
existing text as well as inserting a pair in one place.


on rawKeyDown pKey
   local tBookmarks
   local tChunk

   if optionkey() = "down" then
  switch pKey
 case 34 # ok
put quote into tBookmarks
break
 case 39 # ok
put "''" into tBookmarks
break
 case 57 #?
 case 40
put "()" into tBookmarks
break
 case 91 # ok
put "[]" into tBookmarks
break
 case 123 # ok
put "{}" into tBookmarks
break
 default
  end switch
   end if

   # see if we want to insert a pairing
   if tBookmarks is not empty then
  # this allows bracketing existing text
  put the selectedChunk into tChunk
  put char 2 of tBookmarks after the selectedChunk
  select tChunk
  put char 1 of tBookmarks before the selectedChunk
   else
  pass rawKeyDown
   end if
end rawKeyDown


Also, if the script editor is already in memory you don't need to insert 
a frontscript - just


set the behavior of stack "revSEEditorBehavior" to the long id of 



but if the script editor hasn't already been loaded into memory I don't 
think you can do this without monkeypatching the SE startup script.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2


On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback
into consideration" we should all 'jump on'
anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as
soon as possible.


Alternative *concrete* suggestions are *always* helpful. (Just saying - 
'I don't like it' or variants there-of somewhat less so ;)).


After all, it is hard to find the 'best' way when there is only one 
*effective* option on the table.


Of course, the ideal situation is that we always find a way for 
everybody to have their cake *and* eat it :)


At present, this does seem largely possible by 'adding a preference'...

Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* 
on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...


Warmest Regards,

* For those that haven't encountered this before - we aren't allowed to 
use R*F*CT*R, as it brings Kevin out in hives... Thus we use 'moomin' 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin) instead as they are entirely 
inoffensive characters (on the whole, at least).


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Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?

2017-07-18 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode

Mark,

Thanks for the very helpful info and the quick reply!  In my case, I am 
displaying a very simple webpage as a type of preview.  So, the latest html 
compatibility isn’t an issue.  For this project, I’ll manually remove the 
libcef.dll and move forward.

Thanks!
-Dan

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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

2017-07-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode


Tim Selander wrote:

> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com
> back when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using
> a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
>
> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a few
> .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new
> host.
>
> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one
> of my scripts on on-rev.com to get the directory listing of the mp3
> files on the new host.

FTP is probably not the best solution for this, for reasons too 
numerable to list this morning.


But for the task as described, other simpler, more efficient, and more 
secure alternatives exist:


Can you run a CGI on the server holding the MP3 files to obtain that list?

Or, if they're within you're web root, can you use Apache's directory 
listing?


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback into 
consideration" we should all 'jump on'
anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as 
soon as possible.


Richmond.

On 7/18/17 7:30 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2 contains 14 bugfixes and improvements. Since the last
stable version (8.1.5), more than 40 bugs have been fixed.

After taking community feedback into consideration we have made the
following improvements to the default handlers feature (added in LiveCode
8.1.6 RC-1):

Default Handlers: Make text of default handlers grey to emphasise they do
not yet exist
Default Handlers: Increase space between default handlers and extant ones
Default Handlers: If default handler name begins with P, ensure its first
char is not removed
Default Handlers: Add SE preference
Default Handlers: Ensure the params of a default handler are not LC
reserved words

Moreover, we have added 2 new interactive tutorials. You can access them
from the Start Center.

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_6/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_6_rc_2.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


Have fun!
The LiveCode Team
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[ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

2017-07-18 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2 contains 14 bugfixes and improvements. Since the last
stable version (8.1.5), more than 40 bugs have been fixed.

After taking community feedback into consideration we have made the
following improvements to the default handlers feature (added in LiveCode
8.1.6 RC-1):

Default Handlers: Make text of default handlers grey to emphasise they do
not yet exist
Default Handlers: Increase space between default handlers and extant ones
Default Handlers: If default handler name begins with P, ensure its first
char is not removed
Default Handlers: Add SE preference
Default Handlers: Ensure the params of a default handler are not LC
reserved words

Moreover, we have added 2 new interactive tutorials. You can access them
from the Start Center.

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_6/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_6_rc_2.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


Have fun!
The LiveCode Team
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Re: Why is libcef included in standalone?


On 2017-07-18 18:07, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote:

Using LC 8.1.5, I have unchecked “Browser (CEF)” option in the
“Inclusions” section of the “Standalone Application Settings”.
However, libcef.dll is still included in the standalone build on
Windows.  It is not included in the build for OSX.  Am I right that
this dll is solely for the use of the Browser Widget?  If so, can I
simply delete it from the build?  Are there associated files I should
also remove?


libcef.dll is used by both revBrowser and the browser widget - so if you 
have either checked it will be included.


If you aren't using the browser widget nor revBrowserOpenCEF then you 
should be able to remove it without harm.



In my opinion, why add this ridiculously large dll (46.4MB!) when you
can simply use revBrowserOpen and get the same results?  Am I missing
something here?


If you use revBrowserOpen on Windows then you get (embedded) Internet 
Explorer - which is fine if the stuff you are doing works in Internet 
Explorer.


CEF is a WebKit based browser, which is what you get on Android, iOS and 
Mac. This means that using CEF on Windows (its the only option on Linux) 
gives you something much more consistent across platforms.


Admittedly Edge is a lot better than IE was at standards-compliance. 
However, it is still *not* quite the same environment as any of the 
WebKit based ones.


So, if you are doing web-based things in your app and don't want to have 
to do (what can be a lot of) of work to ensure that everything works 
across all platforms; the 46.4Mb is a small price to pay IMHO.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Why is libcef included in standalone?

2017-07-18 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode

Using LC 8.1.5, I have unchecked “Browser (CEF)” option in the “Inclusions” 
section of the “Standalone Application Settings”.  However, libcef.dll is still 
included in the standalone build on Windows.  It is not included in the build 
for OSX.  Am I right that this dll is solely for the use of the Browser Widget? 
 If so, can I simply delete it from the build?  Are there associated files I 
should also remove?

In my opinion, why add this ridiculously large dll (46.4MB!) when you can 
simply use revBrowserOpen and get the same results?  Am I missing something 
here?


Thanks in advace,
-Dan
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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

2017-07-18 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode


On 07/18/2017 03:38 AM, Tim Selander via use-livecode wrote:


Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, 
but not LC desktop? Anyways around this?



You might check your hosting account settings to see if there are any 
user, IP, or geo access restrictions set up. Maybe you could add a user 
and perhaps whitelist the on-rev server IP for that user?


Good luck!

Warren

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Re: Exposing ourselves

Hi Bob! A markdown guide that goes in here
https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/tree/develop/Documentation/guides
would
be wonderful - then it would appear in the guides section of the dictionary
and also be built into the user guide PDF.

Eventually, IDE APIs will be built into an IDE 'dictionary' - these will be
parsed from script comments in the same way that docs are built from widget
comments - eg line 2 in revIDELibrary documents the ideNewControl message:
https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript#L2

All the necessary code is there to parse these and build the IDE
dictionary, it's just that there's a _lot_ of IDE API to document, so
that's certainly something we could do with help on if anyone has the
inclination. I will make a note to start asking for docs inclusions for IDE
API changes (and indeed requiring them of myself).

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:38 PM Bob Hall via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> It’s is very possible to create a plugin that customizes the IDE/Script
> Editor to your likely. I have a startup script that modifies many of the
> settings and applies “bug" fixes to the IDE/Script Editor when my Dev
> environment opens. “Bug” fixes are things that either are truly a bug in
> the IDE (real or my opinion) or I just don’t care for the UX that Livecode
> provided out of the box.
>
> I also use a couple of IDE/SE enhancers provided by fellow Livecoders.
> It’s very cool that I am able to modify my dev environment to my liking
> down to the menu items or wha'ts in a window in the App.
>
> Now back to the crux of the problem. There is very limited documentation
> (besides the source code) on how to edit the IDE/Script Editor or how one
> might use the APIs in the IDE/Script Editor. This seems to me to be the
> perfect type of project led by the Community.
>
> Personally I’d envision a simple markdown based repository on Github.
> Maybe if there’s a need to get all fancy it could be either a Gitbook or
> mkdocs based repository. If we wanted to go overboard maybe a stack with a
> doc reader in it so it’s available in the IDE???
>
> I don’t think there needs to be too much structure. Maybe just a defined
> Chapter/sub-chapter structure and place where anyone can edit/post to.
>
> Thoughts?
> Bob Hall
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8

2017-07-18 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode

I’ve had the completion capability on my local dev environment for a couple of 
years via a plugin that I wrote. I wrestled with these same problems years ago. 
I actually find that it is benefitial to have BOTH completion and no 
completion. Having a setting to change this is combersome. It is an on-the-fly 
desire.

So here’s how I solved the problem in my IDE startup script…

Hold down the option key and you get completion. no option key, no completion.

If you’d like to try this on your own, put this into a plugin that loads this 
into the frontscript. Don’t use LC 9dp8 though as you won’t get the non-option 
key effect of the pairings...

Bob
/*

* auto complete common pairings with 

*/

on rawKeyDown pKey

local tChar


if optionkey() = "down" then

switch pKey

case 34

insertText quote

exit rawKeyDown

break

case 39

insertText "''"

exit rawKeyDown

break

case 57

insertText "()"

exit rawKeyDown

break

case 91

insertText "[]"

exit rawKeyDown

break

case 123

insertText "{}"

exit rawKeyDown

break

end switch

end if


pass rawKeyDown

end rawKeyDown



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Android Full Screen Browser.

2017-07-18 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode

My Current project is implementing epubjs to view EBooks on mobile using the 
browser control. There is a "full screen" option in the epubjs tool bar. I 
clicked it and figured What could it do? I made the browser control a specific 
size so this button is worthless. On iOS it does nothing but on Android Nougat 
it actually goes full screen! The browser control gets resized to the full card 
obscuring my LC controls in headers, footers and a side bar. I like it. This 
enables one to use the full real-estate of the device without "intenting" out 
to another app. The exit full screen button then resizes the browser window 
back to the size and where I had it via LCS when the card started.

SO... I will dig into the java and see what is doing this. Being able to go 
full screen using java in an LC browser is a very desirable feature. I wish it 
also worked on iOS. I will report when I find out how epubjs is doing this.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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Re: Exposing ourselves

2017-07-18 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode

It’s is very possible to create a plugin that customizes the IDE/Script Editor 
to your likely. I have a startup script that modifies many of the settings and 
applies “bug" fixes to the IDE/Script Editor when my Dev environment opens. 
“Bug” fixes are things that either are truly a bug in the IDE (real or my 
opinion) or I just don’t care for the UX that Livecode provided out of the box. 

I also use a couple of IDE/SE enhancers provided by fellow Livecoders. It’s 
very cool that I am able to modify my dev environment to my liking down to the 
menu items or wha'ts in a window in the App.

Now back to the crux of the problem. There is very limited documentation 
(besides the source code) on how to edit the IDE/Script Editor or how one might 
use the APIs in the IDE/Script Editor. This seems to me to be the perfect type 
of project led by the Community.

Personally I’d envision a simple markdown based repository on Github. Maybe if 
there’s a need to get all fancy it could be either a Gitbook or mkdocs based 
repository. If we wanted to go overboard maybe a stack with a doc reader in it 
so it’s available in the IDE???

I don’t think there needs to be too much structure. Maybe just a defined 
Chapter/sub-chapter structure and place where anyone can edit/post to.

Thoughts?
Bob Hall
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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

Hi again Matthias,

I remembered I was given an ftp account on a colleague's server
awhile back -- tried that and got access with both LC server and
via ssh on sage.on-rev.

So gmoserver.jp is blocking access from sage.on-rev somehow...

Back to the drawing board.

Thanks for your time and input.

Tim

On 2017.07.18, 20:34, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Tim,

i had some time during lunch and made a quick test on my on-rev account at the
Jasmine server.
I am able to list the files of a non on-rev server without problems using
livecode server. Jasmine runs version 7.1.0 of lc server.

Regards,
Matthias

Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌

Am 18.07.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode
>:

Hi Matthias,

Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated!

I'll post again with results!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev account? If not, ask support to enable
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp
> accepts that connection. If that also
doesn´t work, then i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from
on-rev. If that works, then livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing
connections.

Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu >‌

Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode >>:

Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com
> back when they were having lots of
reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.

I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com
>, and use quite a few .lc scripts, calling
them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host.

Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on on-rev.com
> to get the
directory listing of the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine
from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/
>" into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp > port 21: Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp > is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not
LC desktop? Anyways around this?

Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

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Re: Weird variable thing in 8.1.5

2017-07-18 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode

I can't imagine the number of hours I would lose without having that option
on. I have about 5 lines of code if not more. So maybe I need it
more than most people.

On Jul 16, 2017 3:38 PM, "Alex Tweedly via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 16/07/2017 18:49, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
>
>>
>> In 14 years with LC I have never used that option.
>>
>>
>> You should try it :-)
>
> Can be a bit of a pain to add all the local variable declarations - BUT
> every so often it will help you discover a typo in a variable name, and
> suddenly you've fixed a potential bug that was lurking in your code. And
> the cost of the time to add those declarations is nothing compared to
> diagnosing and fixing bugs reported by distant users.
>
> -- Alex.
> P.S. of course, YMMV.
> My taping skulls are bid, so I often spill thongs wring - maybe you don't
> hive that problem :-)
>
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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?


Hi again,

Reporting back for

RevRun support was very quick at activating ssh on my account -- 
thanks!


However, using ftp from the commandline to gmoserver.jp resulted 
in the same message: connection refused


OK, time to take a new tack on the problem!

Thanks for the tip, Matthias.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
 accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then 
i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If 
that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing 
connections.

Matthias
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Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>:

Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
 back when they were having lots of reliability problems. 
We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.

I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com , and use 
quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new 
host.

Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on 
on-rev.com  to get the directory listing of the mp3 files 
on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop 
(Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
" into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  port 21: 
Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp  is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not 
LC desktop? Anyways around this?

Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan





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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

2017-07-18 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode

Hi Tim,

i had some time during lunch and  made a quick test on my on-rev account at the 
Jasmine server. 
I am able to list the files of a non on-rev server without problems using 
livecode server. Jasmine runs version 7.1.0 of lc server.

Regards,
Matthias



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> Am 18.07.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated!
> 
> I'll post again with results!
> 
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to 
>> enable it for you.
>> 
>> Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
>>  > accepts 
>> that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then i would assume that your 
>> server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If that works, then  
>> livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing connections.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> +49 5741 31
>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu  > >‌
>> 
>>> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>>>  
>>> >> >>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
>>>  > back when 
>>> they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; 
>>> no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
>>> 
>>> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com  
>>> >, and use quite a few .lc scripts, 
>>> calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host.
>>> 
>>> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my 
>>> scripts on on-rev.com  >> > to get the directory listing of the mp3 files on the 
>>> new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop 
>>> (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
>>> put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
>>>  >> >" into myVariable
>>> 
>>> Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
>>> error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  
>>> > port 21: Connection refused
>>> 
>>> (gmoserver.jp  >> > is our new host here in Japan.)
>>> 
>>> Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but 
>>> not LC desktop? Anyways around this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Tim Selander
>>> Tokyo, Japan
>>> 
> 
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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?


Hi Matthias,

Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated!

I'll post again with results!

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
 accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then 
i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If 
that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing 
connections.

Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌


Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>:

Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
 back when they were having lots of reliability problems. 
We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.

I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com , and use 
quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new 
host.

Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my scripts on 
on-rev.com  to get the directory listing of the mp3 files 
on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop 
(Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
" into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  port 21: 
Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp  is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but not 
LC desktop? Anyways around this?

Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan




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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

2017-07-18 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
 accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then 
i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from 
on-rev. If that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp 
outgoing connections.

Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
+49 5741 31
‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌

> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
>  back when they were having lots of reliability problems. 
> We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
> 
> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com , and 
> use quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on 
> the new host.
> 
> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my 
> scripts on on-rev.com  to get the directory listing of 
> the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine 
> from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
> put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
> " into myVariable
> 
> Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
> error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  port 21: 
> Connection refused
> 
> (gmoserver.jp  is our new host here in Japan.)
> 
> Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but 
> not LC desktop? Anyways around this?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Exposing ourselves

2017-07-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


That is rather an opaque answer.

Richmond.

On 7/18/17 12:48 pm, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:

On 18 Jul 2017, at 7:19 pm, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:

"it’s currently not exposed in the IDE UI"

1. How can we work out what features are "latent" in LiveCode but are hidden?

2. How can we 'hack' the IDE to expose any of those features we may find useful?

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide 

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Re: Exposing ourselves


> On 18 Jul 2017, at 7:19 pm, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> "it’s currently not exposed in the IDE UI"
> 
> 1. How can we work out what features are "latent" in LiveCode but are hidden?
> 
> 2. How can we 'hack' the IDE to expose any of those features we may find 
> useful?

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide 

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Exposing ourselves

2017-07-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode


"it’s currently not exposed in the IDE UI"

1. How can we work out what features are "latent" in LiveCode but are 
hidden?


2. How can we 'hack' the IDE to expose any of those features we may find 
useful?


Richmond.
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Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?


Hi,

My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com back 
when they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host 
in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.


I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com, and use quite a few 
.lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host.


Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of 
my scripts on on-rev.com to get the directory listing of the mp3 files 
on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC 
desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:

put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/; into myVariable

Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp port 21: Connection refused

(gmoserver.jp is our new host here in Japan.)

Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, 
but not LC desktop? Anyways around this?


Thanks in advance.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan





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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8


> On 18 Jul 2017, at 5:59 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it is worth having a preference for both highlighting and completion 
> - it serves people's individual tastes, and as long as the preference is 
> discoverable then it won't add any complexity.

OK, I’ll open a report about those
> 
> Ideally highlighting would be context aware - so outside of a string, it 
> highlights other brackets outside of strings; but when in a string it 
> highlights brackets in strings:
> 
>  put (1 "a(2" & tVar ")2" )1 after tFoo
> 
> (Numbers used to indicate matching pairs)

I think it doesn’t currently do what you are suggesting but in the case above 
it does what you want anyway ;-)
> 
> I was thinking in terms of syntactically - missing the point of in-string 
> highlighting (as HH and Mark Wieder pointed out).
> 
> Indeed, the current approach is an approximation to the ideal and adding { 
> and } to highlighting wouldn't do any harm; and would serve the use-case of 
> JSON and similar generation.
> 
> In terms of ' then, for much the same reason that would probably be useful - 
> although that might require a bit more work on the highlighting code as it 
> isn't a matched pair (@montegoulding?).

Should be the same as quote so not a big issue if it’s helpful.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-8