Re: Figuring out if something is on the current screen, or getting the current screen rect

[Bob Sneidar]

works in 6.7.6

> On Jan 9, 2016, at 18:20 , Monte Goulding  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 10 Jan 2016, at 10:55 am, Dr. Hawkins  wrote:
>> 
>> As I look through screenLoc, screenRect(s), etc., I'm not seeing *any* way
>> to figure out which screen an object is on, short of manually comparing
>> elements of its rect to the various bits of screensRects.
> 
> put the screen of this stack into theScreen
> put line theScreen of the screenRects into theStackScreenRect
> 
> From my memory of following the repo feed the screen of stack was 
> undocumented until recently when Trevor documented it which probably means it 
> is only documented in LC 8 so not sure what version it was introduced but it 
> stands to reason it may have been introduced when the screenRects was...
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 15

[Jim Lambert]

Alex,

I take advantage of the forum feature that lets one subscribe to a digest of 
new forum posts.
In that way the forum becomes more like the use and dev digests - the 
experience which I prefer.

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Custom Installed Fonts Broken in LC 7.1.1?

[Scott Rossi]

Anyone run across issues with custom installed fonts not rendering on iOS
(simulator) using LC 7.1.1?

I've looked through QCC and am not seeing anything specific.  I have a
simple dummy stack that renders an icon font as expected in 7.0.6 and
fails in 7.1.1.

I'm hoping I someone has a workaround for this so I don't have to go back
to 7.0.6 or 6.7.8 to deliver a project.

Thanks & Regards,

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Re: Windows 10 system version

[J. Landman Gay]

On 1/11/2016 5:48 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

Just went through some sort of big Windows 10 update, and the
systemVersion is showing NT 10.0 for me.


That's more what I'd expect. Thanks.

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Re: Figuring out if something is on the current screen, or getting the current screen rect

[Bob Sneidar]

There is no notion of a current screen in the OS itself. Do you mean which 
screen the frontmost window is in? And what do you mean by "In"? A window can 
overlap two or more screens. Typically if you double click the title bar of a 
window, the window will maximize on the screen the mouse is in. 

Bob S


> On Jan 9, 2016, at 16:37 , Dr. Hawkins  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:
> 
>> I would think that ideally the user should be in control of whether
>> something goes on one screen or another, and that this ability shouldn't be
>> taken away from them.
>> 
> 
> AFAIK,live code offers no such option when opening a stack . . . there was
> a big to-do several years ago when the package maintainer for fvwm on
> (iirc) debian decided that the user placing each and every window was the
> only sane way to handle it.  I believe that it actually deleted other
> methods from existing .fvwmrc or some such (or I may be mixing idiotic
> choices).
> 
> Anyway, in this case, I'm popping up a stack over a field with the list of
> valid choices (I needed more than the built in popups).  I just want them
> to stay on the screen . . .
> 
> It's just insane that there's no notion of a current screen . . .
> 
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Re: Windows 10 system version

[Colin Holgate]

Just went through some sort of big Windows 10 update, and the systemVersion is 
showing NT 10.0 for me.


> On Jan 11, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
> 
> NT 6.2
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:34 PM J. Landman Gay 
> wrote:
> 
>> Could someone on Windows 10 tell me what the systemVersion returns? Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Windows 10 system version

[Paul Dupuis]

On 1/11/2016 5:33 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> Could someone on Windows 10 tell me what the systemVersion returns?
> Thanks.
>
See http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15606

This has only been fixed in 6.7.8 (and related higher 7.x and 8.x releases)

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Re: LiveCoders on Twitter - Are You There?

[Bob Sneidar]

@RobertSneidar

> On Jan 9, 2016, at 10:57 , Lynn Fredricks  
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> http://flockaflame.com/lists/LivecodeDevs/69
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Re: Windows 10 system version

[Peter Haworth]

NT 6.2

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:34 PM J. Landman Gay 
wrote:

> Could someone on Windows 10 tell me what the systemVersion returns? Thanks.
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Re: iOS Safari View Controller

[Monte Goulding]

Looks like a pretty simple external to write

> On 12 Jan 2016, at 9:13 AM, hlowe  wrote:
> 
> Any plans to add LC support for iOS Safari View Controller? Looks like a very
> simple API with a lot of power that eliminates the need to create and manage
> browsers within an iOS app. 
> 
> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/SafariServices/Reference/SFSafariViewController_Ref/
> 
> https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-safari-view-controller-the-future-of-web-views/
> 
> Henry
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Windows 10 system version

[J. Landman Gay]

Could someone on Windows 10 tell me what the systemVersion returns? Thanks.

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RE: Windows 10 system version

[Ralph DiMola]

Rumors is that 9 was skipped and 10 was used so that legacy SW looking for
the leading 9 in Win 95/98 did not go south.
10 is correct.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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Could someone on Windows 10 tell me what the systemVersion returns? Thanks.

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iOS Safari View Controller

[hlowe]

Any plans to add LC support for iOS Safari View Controller? Looks like a very
simple API with a lot of power that eliminates the need to create and manage
browsers within an iOS app. 

https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/SafariServices/Reference/SFSafariViewController_Ref/

https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-safari-view-controller-the-future-of-web-views/

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Re: Windows 10 system version

[Peter Haworth]

Right, that was on an older version of LC, 6.6.something I think.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:05 PM J. Landman Gay 
wrote:

> On 1/11/2016 5:48 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
> > Just went through some sort of big Windows 10 update, and the
> > systemVersion is showing NT 10.0 for me.
>
> That's more what I'd expect. Thanks.
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Re: Windows 10 system version

[J. Landman Gay]

Given the bug that Paul Dupuis mentioned, "NT 6.2" isn't correct. What 
version of LC did you use?


http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15606

On 1/11/2016 4:41 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

NT 6.2

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:34 PM J. Landman Gay 
wrote:


Could someone on Windows 10 tell me what the systemVersion returns? Thanks.

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Re: Does user have network connection?

[Bob Sneidar]

What I do is shell out and telnet to the server I am trying to communicate 
with. Unfortunately this is not reliable for Windows, as Microsoft no lonegr 
enables the Telnet client by default. Instead you can use ping to a known 
internet server. Google responds to pings, but it could change in the future. 
You might try having 3 servers you ping before you fail. 

Bob S


> On Jan 9, 2016, at 13:55 , tbodine  wrote:
> 
> For desktop standalones, is there a function or constant that will tell me if
> the user has an Internet connection or not? (Can't find one searching the
> dictionary.)
> 
> Happy new year!
> Tom B.
> 
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Re: Windows 10 system version

[Colin Holgate]

I get NT 6.2 with older LiveCode, but NT 10.0 with 8.0 dp12.


> On Jan 11, 2016, at 7:00 PM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:
> 
> Given the bug that Paul Dupuis mentioned, "NT 6.2" isn't correct. What 
> version of LC did you use?
> 
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15606
> 
> On 1/11/2016 4:41 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>> NT 6.2
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:34 PM J. Landman Gay 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Could someone on Windows 10 tell me what the systemVersion returns? Thanks.
>>> 
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[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 15

[Peter TB Brett]

Hi all,

Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source 
community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter!


Read issue #15 here: https://goo.gl/obZk4h


This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been 
going on in and around the open source project.  New issues will be 
released weekly on Mondays.  We have a dedicated mailing list that will 
deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any!


If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion 
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Re: Does user have network connection?

[Mark Wieder]

Why top-posting doesn't work:

...drum roll, please

On 01/11/2016 04:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

And I feel fine.

Bob S



On Jan 10, 2016, at 09:38 , Peter M. Brigham  wrote:

Then that's the end of the world as we know it….

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Re: mobileCreateLocalNotifications non-functional on iOS 8

[hlowe]

Terry,

MobileCreateLocalNotification is working fine for me under iOS 9.1 and LC
6.7.8. What problem are you encountering?

Henry



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Re: list of compatible Xcode versions for various LC versions?

[Jerry Jensen]

I am also thankful, but the answer could use updating to current versions.
.Jerry

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Terry Judd  wrote:
> 
> Perfect - thanks Steve!
> 
> Terry...
> 
> On 12/01/2016 2:49 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Stephen MacLean"
>  smacl...@madmansoft.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Terry
>> 
>> https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/
>> 
>> Second one down.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Terry Judd 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Is there a list of what versions of Xcode are compatible with the
>>> various versions of Livecode anywhere? I¹m having real trouble trying to
>>> work out which combination of LC and Xcode I need to use. I have
>>> multiple copies of LC installed (across the 6, 7 and 8 series) and I
>>> suspect that isn¹t really helping either.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> TerryŠ
>>> 
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>>> Department of Medical
>>> Education
>>> The University of Melbourne
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mobileCreateLocalNotifications non-functional on iOS 8

[Terry Judd]

Hi all - I’m not having any luck getting local notifications to work (in the 
simulator at least) on iOS 8 or later. A search of the forum and bugzilla 
revealed that this was a known issue in the LC 6.6 series (I’ve been developing 
my app with 6.6.5) but that it was fixed in 6.7.1. That seems true(ish) in that 
it works in 6.7.1 but the bad news is that it fails in all subsequent versions 
of LC that I’ve tested (7.1, 7.1.1 and 8.0 dp12). Can anyone else confirm this? 
I really need local notifications to work in my app – on all versions of iOS 
from 7 up – and I’m not particularly keen on having to build my app with 6.7.1.

BTW, the original bug (13927) is marked as closed. I added a comment to this 
outlining the issue but am I better off opening a new report?

Regards,

Terry…

Terry Judd  | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education
Department of Medical 
Education
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RE: LiveCoders on Twitter - Are You There?

[Lynn Fredricks]

A few more additions... 

http://flockaflame.com/lists/LivecodeDevs/69

More subscribers puts the list higher / more visible on the site.

Best,

Lynn

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> 
> Thanks Lynn - I think I follow just about everyone on the 
> list anyway :) - @App_Insight_
> 
> 
> David Bovill-3 wrote
> > @fortyfoxes
> > 
> > On Saturday, 9 January 2016, Lynn Fredricks 
> 
> > lfredricks@
> 
> > 
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> >> http://flockaflame.com/lists/LivecodeDevs/69
> >>
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Re: mobileCreateLocalNotifications non-functional on iOS 8

[hlowe]

I am using LC 6.7.8 (Mac OS 10.11.2), xCode 7.1.1 and iOS 9.1

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Re: mobileCreateLocalNotifications non-functional on iOS 8

[Terry Judd]

Hi Henry - I haven¹t tried 6.7.8 (but I will), but on every version of LC
from 6.7.5 on that I tested mobileCreateLocalNotification did nothing if I
selected iOS 8 or greater in the simulator or tested on my iPhone (iOS
9.2).

What version/s of Xcode do you have Œinstalled¹ under the 'mobile support¹
option of LC preferences window?

Terry...

On 12/01/2016 1:35 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of hlowe"
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>Terry,
>
>MobileCreateLocalNotification is working fine for me under iOS 9.1 and LC
>6.7.8. What problem are you encountering?
>
>Henry
>
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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[J. Landman Gay]

On 1/11/2016 10:37 PM, Kay C Lan wrote:

Unfortunately it involves using the mouse but if you press the Option + cmd
keys whilst mousing over any Spotlight result Quicklook should pop-up and
at the bottom is the file path - which may be truncated depending on how
many folders deep it is buried.


Good to know, thanks. It seems that only the Cmd key is necessary to 
show a path, at least in Yosemite, and the target line has to be 
selected. Long paths are truncated, but probably good enough to identify 
the item.



I think Labels are now called Tags


Sorry, I was linguistically sloppy, though the info you gave is a useful 
addedum. I didn't really mean "tags", I meant labelled (i.e.: named) 
folders. Every build I do is in a named folder with all build files 
inside, including the LiveCode source stack. I end up with dozens of 
source stacks with the same names.


If you haven't done a Finder search lately, try this:

Open any Finder window. If you know the general location of the files 
you want, open the window at that folder; the search will start at the 
current window's location and drill down from there. Type Cmd-F. Enter a 
search term in the find box. The default is to search file names and 
content, but you can change it to only match file names in the dropdown 
that appears under the search term.


Above the results list that appears, you can filter by any of dozens of 
filters. Common ones are already in the dropdown menu, but if you choose 
"Other" you can add more filters by selecting them. If you use certain 
filters frequently you can add them to the default menu by ticking their 
checkbox.


You'll get a list of exactly what you're looking for, and all file 
attributes normally displayed in your Finder view are immediately available.



if you write a Spotlight plugin for your Back to the Future stack we'll all
be able to do a Spotlight search for the Stacks we are going to create
'next week'. :-)


Now that I can certainly do. I will have done it, in fact.

Now we both have new ways to find things.

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Re: iOS Safari View Controller

[hlowe]

OK, on further investigation the "launch url pAppURL" call is actually
launching Safari and suspending my App. Returning to my app from the Safari
Web view causes my app's splash screen to appear (as it is relaunched by
iOS). It would be MUCH nicer to be able to open a Safari View within LC. As
Monte says it should be trivial to implement.  This is how Apple now
recommends viewing web content from within an iOS app and it also offers an
elegant solution to the ATS issue that will eventually prevent viewing http
sites within an app using LCs MobileControlCreate "browser" syntax.

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list of compatible Xcode versions for various LC versions?

[Terry Judd]

Hi all,

Is there a list of what versions of Xcode are compatible with the various 
versions of Livecode anywhere? I’m having real trouble trying to work out which 
combination of LC and Xcode I need to use. I have multiple copies of LC 
installed (across the 6, 7 and 8 series) and I suspect that isn’t really 
helping either.

Regards,

Terry…

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Department of Medical 
Education
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Re: iOS Safari View Controller

[hlowe]

Using LiveCode 6.7.8 under iOS 9.1 "launch url pAppURL" switches to a Safari
view that includes a "Back to myApp" button in the top left corner.
Strangely the "launch url appName://" form, based on an app's custom url,
will no longer launch apps on the device.

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Re: list of compatible Xcode versions for various LC versions?

[Terry Judd]

Perfect - thanks Steve!

Terry...

On 12/01/2016 2:49 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Stephen MacLean"
 wrote:

>Hi Terry
>
>https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/
>
>Second one down.
>
>hth
>
>Steve
>
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Terry Judd 
>>wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Is there a list of what versions of Xcode are compatible with the
>>various versions of Livecode anywhere? I¹m having real trouble trying to
>>work out which combination of LC and Xcode I need to use. I have
>>multiple copies of LC installed (across the 6, 7 and 8 series) and I
>>suspect that isn¹t really helping either.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> TerryŠ
>> 
>> Terry Judd  | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education
>> Department of Medical
>>Education
>> The University of Melbourne
>> M: 0435 961 594  |  E:
>>terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au
>> 
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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Kay C Lan]

Straying off topic,

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:32 PM, J. Landman Gay 
wrote:

> I'd use Spotlight more too if it would show the file path to each of
> duplicate copies of a file.


Unfortunately it involves using the mouse but if you press the Option + cmd
keys whilst mousing over any Spotlight result Quicklook should pop-up and
at the bottom is the file path - which may be truncated depending on how
many folders deep it is buried.

If a duplicate file resides on another HD then the name of the HD will
appear in faint gray to the right of the name.


> I often have a master copy and a duplicate in a shared dropbox folder, as
> well as multiple historical copies in labelled folders, and I need to know
> which copy I'm about to open.
>
> I think Labels are now called Tags, make sure all your Tags start with a
different letter; Top Priority, Original, Backup, Archive etc. Tag your
originals and backups appropriately, then in Spotlight

tag:o .li
tag:o .pd
tag:o .tx

 --gets all your original livecode stacks, pdfs or txt documents.

tag:b canc
tag:b my imp

--gets your backup copies of your documents based on their name

tag:a canc .li

--gets all your tagged archive copies of your livecode stack called Cancer
Cure

My wife makes the common mistake of thinking she needs to type out the
entire name and or search criteria; that's the beauty of Spotlight, with
the application of a little logic it can save a whole heap of typing and
mousing about and point directly to the file you need with less chance of
mistakenly opening the wrong one. People who code are definitely logically
inclined so they can easily figure out how to set Tags up and what it is
about a file/folder that makes it unique so they can type the least into
Spotlight

tag:o date:yesterday   or quicker to type
tag:o date:1/11/16

--gets all your original documents created, opened or modified yesterday or
on a specific date

BUT

tag:o

Should find all originals and list them by date last modified/opened. So in
all likelihood, if the last stack you worked on on Friday is going to be
the first stack you work on Monday, tag:o will be all you need to type into
Spotlight because the Top Hit will be the last original file you worked on,
so hit the Return key to have it Open for you. Once you start really using
Spotlight, and you start getting a better sense of how Spotlight thinks,
you adapt to make better use of it, ie you don't have Tags like Project 1,
Project 2, Project 3.

and yes, these are valid inputs as well

date:tomorrow
date:next month

--gets any calendar or reminder items due in the future - although Jacque,
if you write a Spotlight plugin for your Back to the Future stack we'll all
be able to do a Spotlight search for the Stacks we are going to create
'next week'. :-)
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Re: mobileCreateLocalNotifications non-functional on iOS 8

[Terry Judd]

OK - 6.7.8 fails for me as well (simulator and device) so maybe it’s tied
to the iOS sdks that I have included in the mobile support tab.

The latest version of Xcode 6.7.8 will lets me include seems to be 6.4 -
which gives me access to the iOS 8.4 simulator and SDK.

Terry...


On 12/01/2016 2:03 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Terry Judd"
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>Hi Henry - I haven¹t tried 6.7.8 (but I will), but on every version of LC
>from 6.7.5 on that I tested mobileCreateLocalNotification did nothing if I
>selected iOS 8 or greater in the simulator or tested on my iPhone (iOS
>9.2).
>
>What version/s of Xcode do you have Œinstalled¹ under the 'mobile support¹
>option of LC preferences window?
>
>Terry...
>
>On 12/01/2016 1:35 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of hlowe"
> wrote:
>
>>Terry,
>>
>>MobileCreateLocalNotification is working fine for me under iOS 9.1 and LC
>>6.7.8. What problem are you encountering?
>>
>>Henry
>>
>>
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Re: list of compatible Xcode versions for various LC versions?

[Stephen MacLean]

Hi Terry

https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/

Second one down.

hth

Steve

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Terry Judd  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Is there a list of what versions of Xcode are compatible with the various 
> versions of Livecode anywhere? I’m having real trouble trying to work out 
> which combination of LC and Xcode I need to use. I have multiple copies of LC 
> installed (across the 6, 7 and 8 series) and I suspect that isn’t really 
> helping either.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Terry…
> 
> Terry Judd  | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education
> Department of Medical 
> Education
> The University of Melbourne
> M: 0435 961 594  |  E: terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au
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FW: important message (Spam)

[Ralph DiMola]

I just received this. Do we have a problem?

 

Ralph DiMola

IT Director

Evergreen Information Services

rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

 

From: Sharon McQueen [mailto:neil.da...@davismaterial.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:14 PM
To: How to use LiveCode; Mark Waddingham; MikeKerner; Ralph DiMola;
mats.wilstrand
Subject: Fw: important message

 

Hello!

 

New message, please read LINK DELETED BY RALPH

 

Sharon McQueen

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Re: FW: important message (Spam)

[Richard Gaskin]

 Ralph DiMola wrote:


I just received this. Do we have a problem?

From: Sharon McQueen [mailto:neil.davis at davismaterial.com]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:14 PM
To: How to use LiveCode; Mark Waddingham; MikeKerner; Ralph DiMola;
mats.wilstrand
Subject: Fw: important message

Hello!

New message, please read LINK DELETED BY RALPH

Sharon McQueen


Probably not. For starters, the sender name doesn't match the sending 
address.


I see a lot of these, apparently gathering names of people the recipient 
is likely to know either by farming this list, Facebook friends, forum 
members, etc.   In all cases the only plausible element is the name; 
none of the addresses match.


I got one this morning from "Mark Waddingham", sent from an address in 
South Africa.


Mark: If you're traveling in South Africa and intended to send me a link 
to illegal prescription drugs, sorry, but I deleted your email. :)


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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Kay C Lan]

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon 
wrote:

>
> I use “cmd F” to find documents on my computer
> (never got round to using Spotlight).
>

Absolutely love Spotlight, use it hundreds of time a day and it saves me an
incalculable amount of time and effort. Have successfully weened my wife
onto it. Once you've learned to cmd + spacebar + type a few letters of the
App/Folder/File/Contact/Preference/email content then hit Return when
the one you are looking for is hilited, you'll never go back to mousing
around the Finder. Spotlight is to Finder like LiveCode is to C

Is there a way to get the results of such a “Find”
> inside a Rev stack ? Anybody done this ???
>

You can 'do  as AppleScript' but it's long and convoluted and
AppleScript is so ugly once you've worked with LC. ;-)


> I am a buggar for backups, and for one original, I
> have copies on several of my external disks.
> I want to update all the copies of a file that I just
> modified, and by hand, it’s a pain !
>
> Sounds like you simply need a good piece of back-up software. Love Carbon
Copy Cloner myself; have different types of backups (Archive, Clone, entire
disc, specific folders, different schedules...) all set up for different
and typically multiple discs and if any of them are missed because the
laptop either isn't connected to the network disks or physically connected
to the direct connect disks then as soon as they are connected the
backups/archive will run. Painless.

http://bombich.com/

But for this particular situation you could go with the less capable but
highly suited to your case and less expensive, SuperDuper

http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html


> And just in case I haven’t got enough, is there a way
> to display in a liveCode stack the results of a “Get Info”
> from the finder ?
>

have a look at the 'files' entry in the Dictionary, particularly the
'detailed files' entry which gives you all you should need.

>
> I seem to spend half my life in "housekeeping"
>

But this all begs the question. Unless you are constantly moving your
Master file around surely you know where your Master file is and where the
back-ups are and so could easily hard code the file patht into LC and have
it check the 'detailed file' info and see if you need a fresh copy on your
back-up. It's then up to you, are you after an Archive or a straight back
up? Either way you will always use the rename (look it up in the
Dictionary) command to Rename the Old file to include a Date time stamp
before you do the copy. This ensures nothing is lost should the copy fail -
power failure half way thru. Once renamed you can then copy the file
across. From memory (and I'm probably wrong here) LC can't copy files from
one HD to another. I've used the shell command 'ditto' for file transfer
across HDs. Look up 'ditto' in your favourite Man Page viewer. To use shell
commands in LC look up 'shell' in the Dictionary. If you are after an
archive you are done, if you need a simple back-up then you'll need to
Trash the old time stamped file.

Hint: the easiest way to get a file or folder's full path name as required
by these LC commands is to:

type cmd + space bar   then   'ter'   Terminal should now be hilited in
Spotlight. Press Return and Terminal will start up. All you then have to do
is drag any file or folder into the Terminal window and it's full file path
is revealed.

WARNING: the Dictionary entry for revDeleteFolder says that on OS X it uses
AppleScript to place the folder into the Trash. This is incorrect, the
folder is nuked, gone, lost, never to return. This is a CONFIRMED bug #
15176. 'delete file' does the same, but thankfully the Dictionary warns you
it's permanent.

If you are paranoid, then instead of using revDeleteFolder or delete file,
use the rename command to move the file/folder to the Trash. That way it
can still be recovered until you manually empty the Trash

rename file "/Volumes/Backup Disk 7/MyLifesWork 2016112211.livecode" to
"/Volumes/Backup Disk 7/.Trash/MyLifesWork 2016112211.livecode"

Note the intentional period before Trash

You can do this for Files or Folders. I use to do this ages ago until I
eventually bought Carbon Copy Cloner, my files are too way precious it just
didn't make cents (yes with a c) to risk them with my own code ;-)

I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm telling you to suck eggs but I know there
are many lurkers on this List so I write for the lowest common denominator
who may be reading - which I appreciate isn't you.  :-)
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Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Beautiful (but wet) Brittany,

A tiny problem.

I use “cmd F” to find documents on my computer
(never got round to using Spotlight).
Is there a way to get the results of such a “Find”
inside a Rev stack ? Anybody done this ???
I am a buggar for backups, and for one original, I
have copies on several of my external disks.
I want to update all the copies of a file that I just
modified, and by hand, it’s a pain !

And just in case I haven’t got enough, is there a way
to display in a liveCode stack the results of a “Get Info”
from the finder ?

I seem to spend half my life in "housekeeping"

-Francis

“Nothing should ever be done for the first time !”
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Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 15

[Richard Gaskin]

Alex Tweedly wrote:

Every week I look at the newsletter, and in the "Interesting discussion"
section I find pointers to the uselist discussions.

I follow the uselist pretty closely, but have never found an acceptable
way to follow the forum discussions, so I rarely read anything on there
(except if an entry on the uselist contains a pointer to a particular
discussion).

Does the fact that the weekly newsletter always references interesting
discussions on uselist but not on the forums indicate:

(a) all the interesting discussion happens there, and I am right to
(almost) ignore the forums
(btw - :-)

(b) it is assumed that everyone follows the forums anyway, so there is
no need to mention their discussions in the newsletter.

(c) whoever draws up this part of the newsletter is, like me, a uselist
follower rather than a forum user.

Or of course,
(d) something else entirely.


Probably a bit of each.  Like the rest of us, Peter is an individual 
with his own tastes.  Some people spend more time with the list, others 
with the forums, and maybe Peter just spends more time here.


That said, in previous newletters I've seen more than a few posts to the 
forums, and I see him there regularly enough to know he drops in at 
least weekly.


For me the most convenient way to read the forums has been to use the 
"View new posts" link at the top of the home page.  In fact, that's the 
one I bookmarked, so it saves me a click each time I choose my bookmark.


New users will have everything flagged as "new" of course, but the more 
you come back the more usefully the list only contains threads changed 
since your last visit.


As for whether one can be "right to (almost) ignore the forums" or 
"wrong" on that is a notion that confuses me.  Do whatever you enjoy.


I can say on the one hand that the forums appear to be the preference of 
a majority of newcomers, so there is a larger proportion of 
beginner-oriented questions than we see on this list.


But on the other hand, the separated threaded discussions there, along 
with simpler persistence, lend themselves to a greater depth in some 
forums than we often see here.   The "Engine Contributors" section and 
others under the "LiveCode Open Source" heading can be especially 
worthwhile for serious pros.


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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Richard Gaskin]

Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

I use “cmd F” to find documents on my computer
(never got round to using Spotlight).
Is there a way to get the results of such a “Find”
inside a Rev stack ? Anybody done this ???
I am a buggar for backups, and for one original, I
have copies on several of my external disks.
I want to update all the copies of a file that I just
modified, and by hand, it’s a pain !

And just in case I haven’t got enough, is there a way
to display in a liveCode stack the results of a “Get Info”
from the finder ?

I seem to spend half my life in "housekeeping"


If the larger goal here is to manage backups, I can describe what I do 
these days and although how people manage their backups is a very 
personal choice hopefully some of this will be useful:


With backups I have two goals:

- Redundancy, recognizing that drives fail
- Versioning, recognizing that the latest version may not always
  be the one I want

I use two mechanisms for versioning, and rsync for everything else.

I happen to use ownCloud for syncing not only my LC Plugins folder but 
also the folder containing my work files (and a few others).  Dropbox, 
Google Drive, and Time Machine also provide versioning, so which one is 
used is often less important than that at least one of them is used. 
ownCloud is more flexible than the others, so while it's more work to 
set up I need a server in the office for testing anyway, so it was 
convenient enough to add ownCloud to that.


So while ownCloud keeps my Ubuntu workstation, Ubuntu laptop, and OS X 
workstation in sync with a versioned repository through my local server, 
I also have Time Machine on my Mac to have a second copy versioned 
through different means.


With this, with the various synced machines I have two versioned 
archives and three current copies of all data.


But all of this is in my office, and I live in an earthquake-prone area. 
 Given that portable HDDs are available at about US$50/TB, I have four 
of them, and each night I sync my work folders and email to one of those 
drives, and take it home to bring the next one in the following day. 
Periodically I also save a complete archive of work files as a snapshot 
(space being cheaper than time).  So even if my office is destroyed and 
some of the offsite drives fail, the worst case leaves me with at least 
one complete copy of all current and archived files.


The key to being able to conveniently backup to a portable drive has 
been rsync.  It's a very smart algo that automatically does a lot of 
what I think I was reading in your post:


With a given source folder and a destination folder, it can recursively 
go through all folders and compare all files, skipping any where the mod 
date and file size are the same (there's also an option to force a 
checksum, but that's usually not needed since it's extremely rare that a 
file will change in a way that leaves the size and mod date the same).


This is quite efficient in itself, but it gets better:  once rsync finds 
a file that needs replacing, it compares segments of the file and only 
copies the segments that have changed.


All this comes together to make a solution that's about as efficient as 
it can be, and very easy to write into a text file on your drive that 
you can call whenever you need it, e.g.:


rsync -av /Users/username/WorkFolder/  /Volumes/backupdrive/WorkFolder/

rsync has many options (it's a deeply flexible tool), but the ones shown 
here are:


 a: archive mode, preserves time stamps, user and group ownership,
and other file attributes useful to make a true mirror of the
source.

 v: verbose mode, displays each action in Terminal as it's running;
most of the time I don't care, but it's interesting to watch.

If backing up over a network it can be useful to add a z option there, 
which uses gzip compression for each packet copied to reduce 
transmission time.


The end result is half a dozen drives with complete copies of the entire 
directory structure of all useful files, with time stamps preserved to 
make a truly complete and multiply redundant collection of backups.


rsync is preinstalled on OS X and Linux, and can be used on Windows when 
the free Cygwin package is installed.


There are many tutorials on using rsync on OS X for backups - here's 
just one:



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Re: Does user have network connection?

[Richard Gaskin]

Alex Tweedly wrote:
> On 11/01/2016 00:22, Paul Dupuis wrote:
>> On 1/10/2016 12:24 PM, Ray wrote:
>>> What if Google is out of business :)
>> Use http://www.un.org/ OR https://www.gov.uk/ OR https://www.gov.uk/
>> OR
>> ... etc. etc,
>>
>> For good or bad, Governmental organizations last forever...
> Yeah, but don't they usually respond very slowly ?
> :-)

If anyone here releases a version of an app today that outlives the 
google.com domain let me be the first to congratulate on having the most 
desirable problem possible. :)


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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Martin Koob]

Any time I see "can you get this info on a Mac" I head for the shell.

I found the following for a terminal command to get file info.

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/165095/is-there-a-similar-functionality-of-get-info-cmdi-from-the-mac-os-x-termina

So it says use the mdls command

So then I put it in a shell function in a LiveCode Script.

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/165095/is-there-a-similar-functionality-of-get-info-cmdi-from-the-mac-os-x-termina

on mouseUp
   answer File "Select file to get info on..."
   put it into tFilePath
   put shell( "mdls" && tFilepath) into tFileInfo
   put tFileInfo into field 1
end mouseUp

Then you get the following data in tFileInfo that you would then parse for
the data you want.

---
kMDItemAlternateNames  = (
"MyFile.rtf"
)
kMDItemContentCreationDate = 2016-01-11 15:04:45 +
kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2016-01-11 15:04:45 +
kMDItemContentType = "public.rtf"
kMDItemContentTypeTree = (
"public.rtf",
"public.text",
"public.data",
"public.item",
"public.content"
)
kMDItemDateAdded   = 2016-01-11 15:04:45 +
kMDItemDisplayName = "MyFile"
kMDItemFSContentChangeDate = 2016-01-11 15:04:45 +
kMDItemFSCreationDate  = 2016-01-11 15:04:45 +
kMDItemFSCreatorCode   = ""
kMDItemFSFinderFlags   = 16
kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon = (null)
kMDItemFSInvisible = 0
kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden = 1
kMDItemFSIsStationery  = (null)
kMDItemFSLabel = 0
kMDItemFSName  = "MyFile.rtf"
kMDItemFSNodeCount = (null)
kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID  = 20
kMDItemFSOwnerUserID   = 501
kMDItemFSSize  = 332
kMDItemFSTypeCode  = ""
kMDItemKind= "Rich Text Document"
kMDItemLastUsedDate= 2016-01-11 15:04:45 +
kMDItemLogicalSize = 332
kMDItemPhysicalSize= 4096
kMDItemUseCount= 1
kMDItemUsedDates   = (
"2016-01-11 05:00:00 +"
)
-


Martin



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Re: "Interesting discussions" for This Week in LiveCode

[Peter TB Brett]

On 11/01/2016 15:56, Alex Tweedly wrote:

Every week I look at the newsletter, and in the "Interesting discussion"
section I find pointers to the uselist discussions.

I follow the uselist pretty closely, but have never found an acceptable
way to follow the forum discussions, so I rarely read anything on there
(except if an entry on the uselist contains a pointer to a particular
discussion).

Does the fact that the weekly newsletter always references interesting
discussions on uselist but not on the forums indicate:

(a) all the interesting discussion happens there, and I am right to
(almost) ignore the forums
(btw - :-)

(b) it is assumed that everyone follows the forums anyway, so there is
no need to mention their discussions in the newsletter.

(c) whoever draws up this part of the newsletter is, like me, a uselist
follower rather than a forum user.

Or of course,
(d) something else entirely.


Hi Alex,

I'm the person who (usually) puts the newsletter together!  I do 
sometimes include forum topics.  I usually prepare the newsletter first 
thing on a Monday morning.  I use Gmane to look through the recent 
messages in the use list [1], and I use the "Active topics" search on 
the forums to look through the list of topics that have had recent 
messages [2].


I usually look for several criteria when I'm choosing a discussion to 
include:


* There should have been more than two people involved
* There should be more than about 3-4 messages in the conversation
* The conversation should have started since the last newsletter
* The topic should be of reasonably general interest

I feel like one of the reasons that more mailing list things make it 
onto the newsletter is because the majority of forum topics seem to 
follow the "basic LiveCode question, straightforward answer, end" 
format, where as mailing list discussions usually seem to be more 
open-ended and involve more people.


Also, if you notice any discussions about LiveCode or LiveCode 
development in other places (Reddit, Hacker News, ...), please send a 
message to  or open an issue on the TWiL GitHub 
repository so that it can be incorporated into the next issue.


  Peter

[1] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user
[2] http://forums.livecode.com/search.php?search_id=active_topics

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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Klaus major-k]

Hi Francis,

> Am 11.01.2016 um 12:51 schrieb Francis Nugent Dixon :
> 
> Hi from Beautiful (but wet) Brittany,
> 
> A tiny problem.
> 
> I use “cmd F” to find documents on my computer
> (never got round to using Spotlight).
> Is there a way to get the results of such a “Find”
> inside a Rev stack ? Anybody done this ???
> I am a buggar for backups, and for one original, I
> have copies on several of my external disks.
> I want to update all the copies of a file that I just
> modified, and by hand, it’s a pain !
> 
> And just in case I haven’t got enough, is there a way
> to display in a liveCode stack the results of a “Get Info”
> from the finder ?
> 
> I seem to spend half my life in „housekeeping"

you could use SHELL with „mdfind“ like this:
…
put "your searchterm“ into tSearchTerm
put shell("mdfind“ && q(tSearchTerm)) into fld "found files“
…

function q tString
  return QUOTE & tString & QUOTE
end q

SHELL is blocking, but works really fine ;-)

Check the MAN pages for mdfind in the terminal.

> -Francis
> 
> “Nothing should ever be done for the first time !”

Best

Klaus

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Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 15

[Alex Tweedly]

Every week I look at the newsletter, and in the "Interesting discussion" 
section I find pointers to the uselist discussions.


I follow the uselist pretty closely, but have never found an acceptable 
way to follow the forum discussions, so I rarely read anything on there 
(except if an entry on the uselist contains a pointer to a particular 
discussion).


Does the fact that the weekly newsletter always references interesting 
discussions on uselist but not on the forums indicate:


(a) all the interesting discussion happens there, and I am right to 
(almost) ignore the forums

(btw - :-)

(b) it is assumed that everyone follows the forums anyway, so there is 
no need to mention their discussions in the newsletter.


(c) whoever draws up this part of the newsletter is, like me, a uselist 
follower rather than a forum user.


Or of course,
(d) something else entirely.

-- Alex.

On 11/01/2016 10:47, Peter TB Brett wrote:

Hi all,

Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open 
source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" 
newsletter!


Read issue #15 here: https://goo.gl/obZk4h


This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been 
going on in and around the open source project.  New issues will be 
released weekly on Mondays.  We have a dedicated mailing list that 
will deliver each issue directly to you e-mail, so you don't miss any!


If you have anything you'd like mentioned (a project, a discussion 
somewhere, an upcoming event) then please get in touch.


 Peter




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Multi-platform development.

[Alex Tweedly]

I'm considering developing a multi-platform app; i.e. ont where the same 
app runs on both "desktop" and mobile.


On the 'desktop' platforms it will use 'standard' menus, and that will 
be the main "command" access (along with an optional toolbar, most 
likely, but the toolbar will give access to a limited number of most 
often used commands/features, rather than to "everything).


But, on mobile, there are no "standard menus", and although they are 
appearing on a few apps (as homegrown menus), they aren't the usual 
convention on mobile devices. So, I will have a combination of icons, 
buttons, etc. on the mobile platforms.


I suspect that means I'm in the same boat as many other people have 
already been in, and I'd like to benefit from your experience.


If you have developed an app running on both desktop and mobile:

1. did you follow this same split on how your main command structure was 
invoked ?


2. how did you manage this ?
   a. really one app with per-platform customization
   b. two (or more) apps with as large a percentage as possible put 
into library stacks (or similar) as possible, with separate menu-based 
vs button-based apps.

   c. something else that you could readily explain :-)

Many thanks
Alex.

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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[J. Landman Gay]

I'd use Spotlight more too if it would show the file path to each of duplicate 
copies of a file. Cmd-F does that if you have the path info at the bottom of 
the window turned on in Finder. I often have a master copy and a duplicate in a 
shared dropbox folder, as well as multiple historical copies in labelled 
folders, and I need to know which copy I'm about to open. 

Cmd-F in Finder gives you a list of all copies with all the usual details 
(size,  date, etc.) so I use that more often. It sounds like that's what 
Francis needs too. 

BTW, a quick way to copy (most of) the file path to the clipboard is to Get 
Info on it and copy the path from the there. You do need to add the short name 
at the end so it isn't perfect. I've installed a contextual menu addition that 
copies the path. 

None of this actually answers the question though. I don't think there's a way 
to get a found file list in LC without the help of an Applescript or by doing a 
complete directory walk. 

On January 11, 2016 8:11:43 AM CST, Kay C Lan  wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I use “cmd F” to find documents on my computer
>> (never got round to using Spotlight).
>>
>
>Absolutely love Spotlight, use it hundreds of time a day and it saves
>me an
>incalculable amount of time and effort. 
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Re: HTML5 update: why it is slow?

[Trevor DeVore]

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

>
> One thing that might work to avoid having multiple callbacks would be
> completion handler style blocks. This would be particularly helpful if
> their variable scope included the locals in the parent handler. This would
> also give us the choice of declaring a callback either inside or outside
> the current handler.
>
> Using Mark’s example:
>
> on processThing
>  load url "..." with block pResultCode, pData, pError
>---
>  end block
> end processThing
>
> — OR
>
> on processThing
>  load url "..." with processThing2
> end processThing
>
> block processThing2 pResultCode, pData, pError
>  --
> end processThing2


Monte,

I don't see how you would cancel a running operating with the block
example. With your queue idea then you can delete the queue to effectively
cancel it.

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Re: HTML5 update: why it is slow?

[Monte Goulding]

What if the result after end block was a block Id? A bit like send in time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Jan 2016, at 5:27 AM, Trevor DeVore  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> One thing that might work to avoid having multiple callbacks would be
>> completion handler style blocks. This would be particularly helpful if
>> their variable scope included the locals in the parent handler. This would
>> also give us the choice of declaring a callback either inside or outside
>> the current handler.
>> 
>> Using Mark’s example:
>> 
>> on processThing
>> load url "..." with block pResultCode, pData, pError
>>   ---
>> end block
>> end processThing
>> 
>> — OR
>> 
>> on processThing
>> load url "..." with processThing2
>> end processThing
>> 
>> block processThing2 pResultCode, pData, pError
>> --
>> end processThing2
> 
> 
> Monte,
> 
> I don't see how you would cancel a running operating with the block
> example. With your queue idea then you can delete the queue to effectively
> cancel it.
> 
> -- 
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