First update for vector to pdf
Hi Developers, Here is a quick fix for the problem mentioned by Jim Hurley. Replace the whole section of code for the case of Polygon with this code: Tested and works with the 3d vector graphic of the Rotater stack. Beware of linewraps introduced by this yahoo mail. case "polygon" /* To handle the special case where a polygon graphic could have segments separated by spaces, i have put in their own variable details like linesize, linecolor and fillcolor with the only purpose to reuse this data when appear a new segment in the graphic. To represent this new segment, it'll be necessary to create a new polygon graphic with the same attributes of the original vector graphic. */ -- Begin of code changed -- if the linesize of control i <> 0 then put the linesize of control i & " w" & return after zxs1 if the linesize of control i <> 0 then put the effective firstcolor of control i into wse if the number of items of wse = 1 then put ColorName2RGB(wse) into wse put colortodecimalrgb(wse) & "RG" & return after zxs1 -- the outline end if if the filled of control i is true then put the effective secondcolor of control i into wse if the number of items of wse = 1 then put ColorName2RGB(wse) into wse put colortodecimalrgb(wse) & "rg" & return after zxs1 -- the fill end if put the points of control i into mnbq replace comma with space in mnbq put zxs1 & word 1 of line 1 of mnbq && abs(the height of this stack - word 2 of line 1 of mnbq) & " m" & return after zxs delete line 1 of mnbq repeat until mnbq is empty if line 1 of mnbq is empty then -- create new graphic put zxs1 & word 1 of line 2 of mnbq && abs(the height of this stack - word 2 of line 2 of mnbq) & " m" & return after zxs delete line 2 of mnbq delete line 1 of mnbq else -- not an empty line put word 1 of line 1 of mnbq && abs(the height of this stack - (word 2 of line 1 of mnbq)) & " l" & return after zxs delete line 1 of mnbq end if end repeat put empty into zxs1 -- End of code changed -- put the points of control i into mnfd if the filled of control i is false and the linesize of control i = 0 and the last line of mnfd = the first line of mnfd then put "n" & return after zxs if the filled of control i is false and the linesize of control i = 0 and the last line of mnfd <> the first line of mnfd then put "N" & return after zxs if the filled of control i is true and the linesize of control i = 0 and the last line of mnfd = the first line of mnfd then put "f" & return after zxs if the filled of control i is true and the linesize of control i = 0 and the last line of mnfd <> the first line of mnfd then put "F" & return after zxs if the filled of control i is false and the linesize of control i <> 0 and the last line of mnfd = the first line of mnfd then put "s" & return after zxs if the filled of control i is false and the linesize of control i <> 0 and the last line of mnfd <> the first line of mnfd then put "S" & return after zxs if the filled of control i is true and the linesize of control i >= 1 and the last line of mnfd <> the first line of mnfd then put "B" & return after zxs if the filled of control i is true and the linesize of control i >= 1 and the last line of mnfd = the first line of mnfd then put "b" & return after zxs break = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Localizer - Transcriptlator - opinion request
Troy, > > So the question is whether this last script should be made > > available separately in a stack from the other translators? > > Obviously, you are considering a possible good reason for these to be > separate, but since I don't have a full understanding, perhaps you > could humor me and tell me what it is? Why would the parts of the > script which identify and include the locals be put into a separate > stack? Would it have some application outside of the rest of the > scripts? Well, for different reasons. - the translator and the localizer do different things. One does the obvious job of translating other languages. The other declares your locals to make the explicit variables feature happy. It also helps make your scripts less buggy as it allows you to see right away when you have misspelled variables. The reason both are integrated into the Trancriptolator is that the Localizer was another parser I made using the T.ptolators' functions. In addition the Localizer can be used after any translation! But Im thinking that the localizer may be needed for some while the T'ptolator may not. Im thinking of a 5 EU/$ shareware for the localizer (as a script editor plug-in) while the T'ptolator will be priced higher. Here's a few screenshots... http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=2 > Maybe if I understood better, I could offer some kind of opinion. Clearer? > Either way, the stacks sound interesting, Xavier. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Troy, Good points, all. But I also believe there is too much 'Mac' centric focus in RR. The GUI is completely Mac based, and so is much of the marketing focus. Though, this does represent the 'low-hanging fruit', RR won't ever truly make inroads onto other platforms w/out a concerted marketing effort by the company. Also, we can easily see where HyperCard, SuperCard and other 'Mac-centric' authoring environments have ended up. I think it's eventually in RR's best interest to focus on other platforms, else the find themselves in the same situation as the other lanquished Mac Xtalk authoring environments. And remember, both Flash and Director found some success on PC's, and originally shipped with an Xtalk language. Your point below is quite cogent. -Chipp Troy Rollins wrote: Marketing Revolution to Mac developers is easy. Marketing it to Windows developers (other than a certain segment) is swimming against the tide. It can be done, but it is certainly a harder road to travel. There is a lot more "education" to do, in order to get Windows developers to recognize the value... if in fact, it does have value to them over their current tools. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: image size and depth
Yves, You might want to check out altResizeImgLib at http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/runrev/Downloads.htm The library doesn't explicitly reset the dpi, but it will resize it, and you can check the dpi after exporting... -Chipp Yves COPPE wrote: Hi list, I have a file which is a jpg file This img is taken with a digital camera I'd like a script which would change the size and the dpi of this img. The idea is to dim the size and set the dpi to "100" or "72" ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
image size and depth
Hi list, I have a file which is a jpg file This img is taken with a digital camera I'd like a script which would change the size and the dpi of this img. The idea is to dim the size and set the dpi to "100" or "72" For now I use graphicConverter but I'm asking if it would be possible to make it from within Revolution ? My script begins with answer file "Where is the image ?" if it is empty then exit to top put it into filepathToImg ... ... Thank you very much. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Localizer - Transcriptlator - opinion request
On Aug 7, 2004, at 1:44 AM, MisterX wrote: So the question is whether this last script should be made available separately in a stack from the other translators? Obviously, you are considering a possible good reason for these to be separate, but since I don't have a full understanding, perhaps you could humor me and tell me what it is? Why would the parts of the script which identify and include the locals be put into a separate stack? Would it have some application outside of the rest of the scripts? Maybe if I understood better, I could offer some kind of opinion. Either way, the stacks sound interesting, Xavier. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Major league cool utiltiy for Mac OSX!
On Aug 7, 2004, at 1:32 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Or another way: Navigate to the desktop you want RR on and just click on the RR icon in the doc to pull up all RR windows in the 'current' desktop Yes! I just did that one "accidentally." That of course, works just fine. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
vis of menuBar?
Does anyone know how to check whether the menuBar is hidden or not? I can't seem to find it in the docs. I've tried: the vis of menubar and it won't work. TIA, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Major league cool utiltiy for Mac OSX!
Chipp Walters wrote: It's really easy to get all the windows on a single window. First, navigate to any window where RR is 'frontmost' then command-option click the desktop. This effectively minimizes all the windows for RR. Or another way: Navigate to the desktop you want RR on and just click on the RR icon in the doc to pull up all RR windows in the 'current' desktop Next navigate to the desktop you want all the windows on, then cmd-tab to bring up the task switcher and select RR from the icons. All the RR windows will appear together on whichever desktop is 'active.' Troy Rollins wrote: This switcher is really nice, however it discriminates by the window rather than the owner application. This means that parts of Revolution can be strewn across multiple desktops, and if you should accidentally use the doc to summon Revolution back to the screen, it doesn't bring all of it, only parts. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Localizer - Transcriptlator - opinion request
After much scripting on it, I'm puzzled what I should do and so would like to let you tell me what you think. I wrote a transcript translator engine for c, pascal, basic which also handles parts of fortran, php, flash, java and js. The last piece I added to this stack is a parser that finds all your local assignments and puts them into the script if missing. This script also recognizes also the locals assigned outside of the script's handlers and puts them on top of the script to avoid some conflicts when locals are used before before the local assignment. So the question is whether this last script should be made available separately in a stack from the other translators? If there is interest or need for them, I will put this or both stacks in my priority list. For your info, the translators take care of translating the basics of any language into Transcript. It's not 100 perfect naturally but it saves you about 80% of the time in translating from one language to transcript. Thanks in advance for your comments Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Major league cool utiltiy for Mac OSX!
On Aug 7, 2004, at 1:15 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: It's really easy to get all the windows on a single window. First, navigate to any window where RR is 'frontmost' then command-option click the desktop. This effectively minimizes all the windows for RR. Next navigate to the desktop you want all the windows on, then cmd-tab to bring up the task switcher and select RR from the icons. All the RR windows will appear together on whichever desktop is 'active.' Hey, not bad. Yeah, the panel manager thing becomes a "must have" functionality after a while... helps keep things better sorted out in your head as well as on the screen. I'm going to work with this one a bit more. I know there are several alternatives, but this is the most complete free one I've seen, that's for sure. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Major league cool utiltiy for Mac OSX!
It's really easy to get all the windows on a single window. First, navigate to any window where RR is 'frontmost' then command-option click the desktop. This effectively minimizes all the windows for RR. Next navigate to the desktop you want all the windows on, then cmd-tab to bring up the task switcher and select RR from the icons. All the RR windows will appear together on whichever desktop is 'active.' Troy Rollins wrote: This switcher is really nice, however it discriminates by the window rather than the owner application. This means that parts of Revolution can be strewn across multiple desktops, and if you should accidentally use the doc to summon Revolution back to the screen, it doesn't bring all of it, only parts. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Troy That is one of the best, most cogent, clear pieces of explanation of this phenomenon that I've seen. I've been saying this for a lot of years. It seems quite clear to me that you're right, but there are still people who don't see it our way! Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Aug 6, 2004, at 5:54 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: I did find the Mac-orientation of Revolution a bit off-putting at first. Hypercard (and Applescript, and QT and ...) are mentioned so often, and so much discussion includes Mac mentions, that I did wonder initially just how "cross-platform" Rev would be - or whether it was really 80% a Mac application, with a token ability to run on other platforms. The apparent focus on Mac/Apple (conferences, Macworld announcements, etc.) could easily "scare" Windows (or Unix/Linux) users. I think it would be a good idea for some "balancing" if possible. I think that this isn't an issue of Windows versus Mac, but one of Windows developers versus Mac developers. One of Rev's greatest strengths and marketable features is its inherently multi-platform nature. A feature that Windows developers generally don't give a whit about. Windows developers (typically) are not Mac savvy, and don't even consider developing anything for Mac. In fact, your initial reaction would be typical, I think. Why mess up an IDE and scripting language with all that Mac oriented rubbish? What's with this plain English programming? Mac developers, on the other hand, know well that they generally *must* develop for Windows in order for their products to be seriously marketable to the general public. Virtually all Mac developers that I know (Hypercarders excepted) develop multi-platform, and look for multi-platform tools to develop with. Windows users are not specifically looking for multi-platform tools, they are looking for the tools with the most advanced Windows features they can find. There is an argument to be had that Rev is somewhat limited in advanced Windows features because of its well-balanced multi-platform feature set. I'm not saying one approach is better or worse, each developer needs to choose that for themselves. I'm just making the point that *if* Rev's focus has any bias to Mac at all, it is because the Mac developers are very receptive to their offerings, needing such tools perhaps more than Windows developers. Windows developers are certainly not scrambling to find a HyperCard replacement, for instance. Which is a long way of saying that I assess that RunRev is trying to appeal, at least initially, to those most receptive to what they have to offer. Hypercard and Applescript are often mentioned because the languages are virtually identical to Transcript... and all three are a lng way from VB Script. QuickTime is mentioned because it is the primary media engine on both platforms for Revolution, as it is the only truly cross-platform media solution. Marketing Revolution to Mac developers is easy. Marketing it to Windows developers (other than a certain segment) is swimming against the tide. It can be done, but it is certainly a harder road to travel. There is a lot more "education" to do, in order to get Windows developers to recognize the value... if in fact, it does have value to them over their current tools. [ Occasionally, I still think there's too much Mac focus - but I'll keep that argument for another day when my skin is feeling thicker :- ] Ah, OK. Standing-by. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hide Taskbar
> check out the windowBoundingRect...it is correctly set in standalones > (though RR's IDE resets it so it's tough to use from within the IDE) Ok, so does the windowBoundingRect adjust for the different sizes of the taskbar? Is there anything in the IDE that will return the height of the taskbar? Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hide Taskbar
check out the windowBoundingRect...it is correctly set in standalones (though RR's IDE resets it so it's tough to use from within the IDE) -Chipp Derek Bump wrote: I have a stack that resizes to the screenRect(), but after that's done and the "show taskbar" command is issued, the taskbar doesn't show. Is there any way to disable Revolution from hiding the taskbar when it resizes to the screenRect()? Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Hide Taskbar
I have a stack that resizes to the screenRect(), but after that's done and the "show taskbar" command is issued, the taskbar doesn't show. Is there any way to disable Revolution from hiding the taskbar when it resizes to the screenRect()? Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Richard Of course if RevPro gets enough market traction (i.e., a large enough installed base) then a publisher would be interested. As of now, it seems to me that it is far more likely that Dreamcard will achieve that level of market penetration sooner because it is going to be sold in a more mainstream way rather than through narrower dev channels. Dan On Aug 6, 2004, at 12:41 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dan Shafer wrote: I'm afraid the bookstore route is closed to us for the moment. When Dreamcard gets enough traction and the software is available in stores, we may be able to convince some specialty places like Fry's to carry it, but mainstream bookstores aren't likely to touch it unless it comes from a major publisher or through an established distributor. Why is this necessarily limited to DreamCard? There are books on many professional development tools, including Director, RealBASIC, and others, at a great many mainstream bookstores. Wouldn't the award-winning pro Rev product be worth marketing? With the higher margins I would think it would be even more so -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
At 18:02 06/08/2004 +0200, MisterX wrote: However, spending dire marketing money on the ADC is IMOHO a big waste. What is 20 users when you can have double that with a single post in Slashdot.org (/.) alone! Oh, I almost forgot, it's free and revisitable... However RunRev has not made much talk there and there's a catchup to do if you want the book to find even more success... Well, I found RunRev through a link from /. (it might have been indirect - a /. link to someone's weblog talking about different scripting languages, and it mentioned Revolution - don't remember now). Separately, in RunRev's case, I dont know how much /. banner ads cost but surely their success have to worth the money more than anywhere else... Question is how does RR want to market itself and to whom... I started with Macs, dont get me wrong, but PC's are not to be undermined - at 9x% of the market... I did find the Mac-orientation of Revolution a bit off-putting at first. Hypercard (and Applescript, and QT and ...) are mentioned so often, and so much discussion includes Mac mentions, that I did wonder initially just how "cross-platform" Rev would be - or whether it was really 80% a Mac application, with a token ability to run on other platforms. The apparent focus on Mac/Apple (conferences, Macworld announcements, etc.) could easily "scare" Windows (or Unix/Linux) users. I think it would be a good idea for some "balancing" if possible. [ Occasionally, I still think there's too much Mac focus - but I'll keep that argument for another day when my skin is feeling thicker :- ] -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Alejandro, > Actually, i do not have CAD software to test this > conversion. Is DXF written as ascii text? In its simplest form, DXF can be ascii only. The DXF CAD file format appears to be well documented at myfileformats.com. http://myfileformats.com/search.php?name=dxf There are numerous freeware and/or shareware CAD programs that will import DXF files that would serve well as a viewer during development. Regards, Roger Eller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
My suspicion is that the key phrase in all this is "[w]hen...the software is available in stores." I wonder whether any thought has been given to marketing Rev through mail order/online shops as well as brick and mortar shops> On Aug 6, 2004, at 3:41 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dan Shafer wrote: I'm afraid the bookstore route is closed to us for the moment. When Dreamcard gets enough traction and the software is available in stores, we may be able to convince some specialty places like Fry's to carry it, but mainstream bookstores aren't likely to touch it unless it comes from a major publisher or through an established distributor. Why is this necessarily limited to DreamCard? There are books on many professional development tools, including Director, RealBASIC, and others, at a great many mainstream bookstores. Wouldn't the award-winning pro Rev product be worth marketing? With the higher margins I would think it would be even more so ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Dan Shafer wrote: I'm afraid the bookstore route is closed to us for the moment. When Dreamcard gets enough traction and the software is available in stores, we may be able to convince some specialty places like Fry's to carry it, but mainstream bookstores aren't likely to touch it unless it comes from a major publisher or through an established distributor. Why is this necessarily limited to DreamCard? There are books on many professional development tools, including Director, RealBASIC, and others, at a great many mainstream bookstores. Wouldn't the award-winning pro Rev product be worth marketing? With the higher margins I would think it would be even more so -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] vector to pdf
Jim Hurley wrote: >Now after your triumph with "Vector to AI" and >a "Vector to PDF," what will you do for an encore? >Maybe "Vector to IPod?" I do not have an IPod, but accept any mp3 player from the participants of this list... ;-) But, i do not feel too triumphant. This is more a scratchy start, than a problem solved. The pdf file BARELY opens in Acrobat. ;-)) >There is a problem with "line" graphics with an open >segment in the PDF converter. >For example, a line graphic with following >points: >139,109 >402,59 >476,242 >214,361 >65,244 >appears as if the open line were closed, i.e. as if >the empty line were absent. >Did I make myself clear? Ah, yes. This is an exceptional case that will require some new code to handle. Thanks for pointing this, Jim! It'll be needed to represent each segment as a new vector graphic. I'll start working on this today, with the vector figures from the stack "Rotater". If you could add this code, Jim, then please do. Probably you are working in the graphics for your book and need this now or as soon as possible. If you need more specific help, then write me off-list. I think that some custom code to save a sequence of vector animation as : file01.pdf,file02.pdf,etc could be really useful later on the road. >I should have said: it appears closed in FreeHand. >When I try to open it it Acrobat I get a error >message: "Too few operands." I suspect that Acrobat is complaining about empty lines. FreeHand uses a very relaxed interpretation of pdf files, closely related to the way the program "PackEdge" deals with pdf files, extracting only the objects useful for screen representation. Pierre Sahores wrote: >Your "vector2pdf" stack works fine there under >both Panther 10.3.4 and Suse-Linux 8.2 Pro >(MC 2.5 in both cases). >The exported PDF files opens OK under Apercu and >Acrobat Reader 6 (MacOS) and under Acrobat 5 (Linux). Good news!!! :-)) >They don't open under KGhostView 0.13.2 / KDE 3.1.1 >(Linux) and under Ghostscript 7.05.6 (Linux), witch >popups an error message saying that the file has a >corrupted "%EOF" marker or gaberage after the "%EOF". An error message! This is as valuable as gold, given that most readers do not returns useful information when they found an error. Probably there is two or more chars after "%EOF" I bet they are linefeeds. Roger.E.Eller wrote: >"Vector to DXF" would make it possible to make CAD >compatible software. Actually, i do not have CAD software to test this conversion. Is DXF written as ascii text? >I imported "vector2pdf.pdf", and PackEdge >converted the color pallette >from RGB to CMYK because this program is >designed for commercial printing. Not only changed from rgb to cmyk, but it literally rebuild the pdf around the objects. This is a great pdf fixer application! >Then I exported the file out >as "pdf2PackEdge2pdf.pdf". Thanks for sending this file. Now I have 8 different pdf files from the same set of vector graphics. Actually, i have almost solved the ascii85 encoding issue. More important is that i've found and downloaded the pdf reference 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5 from diverse websites. First reference manual (1.1) is a must read to understand the format. Thanks to everyone for their feedback. i'll keep you posted on fixes to this code. al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: :=
Is there any kind of preprocessor/macro system so I can create my own assignment operator? I would die right now for a := (since = is already used). There isn't although you could conceivably write a plugin which intercepts the edit and save script messages, and modifies the script text accordingly. - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] The Scripter's Scrapbook v4.01
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RE: :=
K, there's contstant,global, local a=1 and put blabla into talk and preopenstack|card to do assignements but typing variables is obsolete in RR... equal is equal as they say ;) Lastly, since transcripts are precompiled, I doubt this would run on a RunRev made app... This is not your dad's C precompiler or macro assembler... > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 19:31 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: := > > > > > Is there any kind of preprocessor/macro system so I can create my > own assignment operator? I would die right now for a := (since = > is already used). > > > > -==-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=- > Disclaimer: > > Any resemblance between the above views and those of my > employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely > coincidental. > Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. > > The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold > them > is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of > the reader > is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. > (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the > scope of this article.) > > > > ___ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 10:32 AM, MisterX wrote: hu... being slashdotted is not fun... but it's a sign of power marketing... ;) besides, with a clear description, this could be avoided. I dont click on all the website links I see in slashdot. being slashdoted usually comes with having big downloads. uh... RR has them dont they ;)) Ready when you are Kevin ;) So host your big downloads at : http://www.serverbeach.com/catalog/ 2000 GB Bandwidth prices from $99 to 300 per month ... and slash away. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Major league cool utiltiy for Mac OSX!
On Aug 6, 2004, at 1:27 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: I recently came across a cool new Mac utility (Panther only) which really helps me on my Powerbook. It's at: http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/index.php This switcher is really nice, however it discriminates by the window rather than the owner application. This means that parts of Revolution can be strewn across multiple desktops, and if you should accidentally use the doc to summon Revolution back to the screen, it doesn't bring all of it, only parts. It also doesn't deal particularly well with multiple monitors. Functionally it works, but the cool transition effects only take place on one monitor. Like you, I really want multiple desktops, as it is a good way to manage screen real estate, but it looks like I'll have to stick with Expose until someone gets it fully right. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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RE: OT (Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely)
ROTFL ;) what is Cryptome.org or lecanardenchaine.fr going to say now ;) want more market but cant market it? ;)) Look at le canardenchained.fr... they want to sell news but I wont buy newspapers (save the trees) so they wont publish on the net, and I wont read it anymore... ;( Catch 22? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andre > Garzia > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 18:55 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: OT (Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely) > > > > On Aug 6, 2004, at 1:45 PM, sims wrote: > > > Actually, if the EuroRevCon web page did get slashdoted I hope > > it goes down immediately as the server fees would bankrupt me. > > No joke there. > > So I must ask CmdrTaco not to publish the note I sent ten minutes ago? > > *grin* > > :D > > Andre > > -- > Andre Alves Garzia ð 2004 > Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL > http://studio.soapdog.org > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
hu... being slashdotted is not fun... but it's a sign of power marketing... ;) besides, with a clear description, this could be avoided. I dont click on all the website links I see in slashdot. being slashdoted usually comes with having big downloads. uh... RR has them dont they ;)) Ready when you are Kevin ;) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sims > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 18:46 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely > > > >On Aug 6, 2004, at 1:02 PM, MisterX wrote: > > > >>However, spending dire marketing money on the ADC is IMOHO a big > >>waste. What is 20 users when you can have double that with > >>a single post in Slashdot.org (/.) alone! Oh, I almost forgot, it's > >>free and revisitable... However RunRev has not made much talk there > >>and there's a catchup to do if you want the book to find even more > >>success... > >> > > > >Xavier, > > > can they handle being slashdoted... the page can go down... :D > > Bandwidth costs might put Rev out of biz. > > Actually, if the EuroRevCon web page did get slashdoted I hope > it goes down immediately as the server fees would bankrupt me. > No joke there. > > atb > sims > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT (Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely)
On Aug 6, 2004, at 1:45 PM, sims wrote: Actually, if the EuroRevCon web page did get slashdoted I hope it goes down immediately as the server fees would bankrupt me. No joke there. So I must ask CmdrTaco not to publish the note I sent ten minutes ago? *grin* :D Andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Well, based on an n of 1, if it weren't for the sidebar ad on macnn (or was it macintouch?), I never would have heard of Rev. On Aug 6, 2004, at 12:02 PM, MisterX wrote: Separately, in RunRev's case, I dont know how much /. banner ads cost but surely their success have to worth the money more than anywhere else... ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Aug 6, 2004, at 1:02 PM, MisterX wrote: However, spending dire marketing money on the ADC is IMOHO a big waste. What is 20 users when you can have double that with a single post in Slashdot.org (/.) alone! Oh, I almost forgot, it's free and revisitable... However RunRev has not made much talk there and there's a catchup to do if you want the book to find even more success... Xavier, can they handle being slashdoted... the page can go down... :D Bandwidth costs might put Rev out of biz. Actually, if the EuroRevCon web page did get slashdoted I hope it goes down immediately as the server fees would bankrupt me. No joke there. atb sims ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IMPORTANT: Scripter's Scrapbook v4 Bug
The following did not appear in the Metacard Digest vol 11 issue 7, nor in the use-Revolution digest 24 which seems to have been skipped entirely... The Scripter's Scrapbook v4.0 Important Bulletin If you are using the current version 4.0 of the Scripter's Scrapbook, there is an unlikely but potentially important bug in a sub-function of the File Attachments dialog window... If you use the File Attachment dialog's 'Save as' to re-create an attachment to you desktop, DO NOT select the auto-launch option that is then presented to you. The bug, now fixed for the upcoming release, can disable your Scrapbook in some situations. As a precautionary measure, all v4.0 files have been temporarily suspended on the website pending re-release. The good news is that it does not corrupt your program, there is no data loss is involved, and we can quickly fix it for you if you send your Scrapbook file to us at the address below. Our sincere apologies for any inconvenience. Hugh Senior FLCo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Sims, No doubt, the EuroRevCon is a great way for us to get together, and buy discounted autographed books from our favority author. ;) No kidding, I still pride my HC handbook 2.0! I got 3 HC books and Dan's the one that got the most leafing! ;) However, spending dire marketing money on the ADC is IMOHO a big waste. What is 20 users when you can have double that with a single post in Slashdot.org (/.) alone! Oh, I almost forgot, it's free and revisitable... However RunRev has not made much talk there and there's a catchup to do if you want the book to find even more success... Ummm...it cost nothing, zilch, nada for the ad in the ADC Neswletter. A marketing budget for the EuroRevCon would be an interesting concept ;-) So far it has been mostly my time & effort...I must have missed that 'marketing budget' meeting (joke there folks) ;-) Look forward to seeing you at EuroRevCon Mr X. Ciao, sims ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Aug 6, 2004, at 1:02 PM, MisterX wrote: However, spending dire marketing money on the ADC is IMOHO a big waste. What is 20 users when you can have double that with a single post in Slashdot.org (/.) alone! Oh, I almost forgot, it's free and revisitable... However RunRev has not made much talk there and there's a catchup to do if you want the book to find even more success... Xavier, can they handle being slashdoted... the page can go down... :D Andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error message "Can't find handler" (was "Object: value is not a boolean (true or false)")
On Aug 6, 2004, at 3:58 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I added a test function to both stacks with the same name to see which of the two is called. To my surprise, the one in the login stack is called! At least that explains the "Can't find handler" error. That is the stack with the executed script in it, but that one is closed at the moment of the call; the other stack should be the frontmost at that time and thus it should receive messages. Or am I wrong about this? well, assuming I understand your setup and how your are thinking about it, you are wrong about this. Ignoring shared groups (backgrounds), the message path from a button, say, for a mouseUp, goes like this: front scripts button clicked groups the button is in, if any card the button is on stack the card is in * its main stack if it is a sub stack libraries back scripts (* There is a bug. In the standalone, the libraries seem to be also here.) Frontmost does not enter into this. Is there a way to explicitly tell RunRev which stack should handle the call? Look at 'send', 'call' and 'value()'. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Sims, No doubt, the EuroRevCon is a great way for us to get together, and buy discounted autographed books from our favority author. ;) No kidding, I still pride my HC handbook 2.0! I got 3 HC books and Dan's the one that got the most leafing! ;) However, spending dire marketing money on the ADC is IMOHO a big waste. What is 20 users when you can have double that with a single post in Slashdot.org (/.) alone! Oh, I almost forgot, it's free and revisitable... However RunRev has not made much talk there and there's a catchup to do if you want the book to find even more success... Separately, in RunRev's case, I dont know how much /. banner ads cost but surely their success have to worth the money more than anywhere else... Question is how does RR want to market itself and to whom... I started with Macs, dont get me wrong, but PC's are not to be undermined - at 9x% of the market... Consider that unix, linux, mac and PC users will visit /. while the ADC will get the usual 10% attention, 5% response you get from printed marketing... And /. is free... ;) If Kevin and Dan talked to /. ed. im sure they could get a sweet deal... Dan and Kevin would get an audience interested in RR and the ball start rolling not just in the Mac audience which seems still to be the mainstream RR client. Please correct me if Im wrong! my 2 eurocents Xavier > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sims > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 17:15 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely > > > >Why not put an announcement in > > > >DDJ.com > >slashdot.org > >? > >Both put in articles for books about programming and > >have a wide audience of ahem, geeks... > > > >Little is known or mentioned of RR or MC or hypercard anymore > >but Wired.com has run articles on it in the past. > > > >Surely a small article in each will draw hords to both RR > >and the book. > > One of the benefits of pushing the EuroRevCon has been just what > you are referring to...exposure of Rev to people who may have not > heard about it. Marketing a product or event is not easy and is > usually expensive. > > The Apple Developer Connection Newsletter has carried > a notice about the EuroRevCon for quite a few issues. > The ADC newsletter goes out to approx. 200,000 people > according to Rod McCall. > > For several issues the ADC has carried this announcement: > At 2:39 -0700 7/19/04, Apple Developer Connection wrote: > > > >European Revolution Conference > >November 14-16 in Malta > >http://www.techietours.com/Rev/ > > > Having the EuroRevCon be a success is also important, we need a few more > people to sign on. If you are considering it please get in touch with me, > just as Dan SHafer did this week when he told me wants to come and will > be available to speak or otherwise do what he can to promote Rev. > > atb > sims > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 08:30 AM, Dan Shafer wrote: First, fulfillment is still out of Edinburgh, which drives the cost of the book very high. International shipping costs are almost a deal killer. Second, to the extent that we enter into new contractual distribution deals we cloud the possibility of success with a traditional publisher, who is already going to be quite reluctant to work with us just based on the minuscule size of the potential audience. Now I see why you went the e-Book way. Geeks already have their faces screen-burned so what's the diff. The e-book business has pretty much tanked. People want to have something to hold in their hands that is not screen related. Still these books of yours are part of the reason that some would consider using Revolution in the first place. Keep up the great work, and thanks. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Aug 6, 2004, at 7:10 AM, Mark Brownell wrote: On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 09:33 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: Convincing a book distributor that Revolution has as much appeal to the unwashed masses as iTunes? Good luck with that one. -- Troy Amazon.com has a small publisher section that would allow Dan / Revolution to sell his book from the Amazon website. His book would pop up for any requests for books on Runtime Revolution. Of course Dan would need to take a 50% reduction in earnings to ask for that level of exposure and the percentage of loss to him might even be greater. It might be better to advertise the existence of his book and keep selling it direct. What you are really saying is that more Revolution exposure would be nice. Advertising could handle both issues and earn enough from it to pay for the print runs. I don't have any problem with cutting deals like this as a rule and I certainly don't have an issue with this book, which has sold remarkably few copies. There are two problems with going to amazon.com with this book. First, fulfillment is still out of Edinburgh, which drives the cost of the book very high. Second, to the extent that we enter into new contractual distribution deals we cloud the possibility of success with a traditional publisher, who is already going to be quite reluctant to work with us just based on the minuscule size of the potential audience. If it were up to me, we'd use amazon.com and a bunch of other places to try to get the word out. But it's more complicated than it seems on the surface, at least until Kevin and I have either cut a deal or given up on the idea. Dan 2 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Aug 6, 2004, at 7:19 AM, Dave LeYanna wrote: Is his book "self-published"?, Nope. RunREv set up a publishing group to handle it. In a sense, RunRev has self-published it. I own the rights to the eBook version and Kevin and I have discussed doing a POD deal but such a relationship can confuse the issue when you're trying to line up a "real publisher." if so I can help save some costs because I am a partner in a Printing On Demand publisher. We do ISBN and everything including a listing in "Books in Print". I'm sure that I'm cheaper than anyone else. PLUS we are on demand meaning that he doesn't have to buy any up front inventory. I publish another self-published book with CafePress and although I'm delighted with their service, promotion and marketing remains my problem, of course. BTW how far has he progresses on the three vol. set? I purchased the "Pre-pub" deal (option C) and haven't heard a thing since the pre-pub of vol. one. There have been a few posts on the list about this. Kevin Miller and I decided some time ago to turn our efforts to finding a "real publisher" to handle Vol. 1 and to put together a publishing plan for Vols. 2 and 3. Meanwhile, I release occasional individual chapters (only two so far with a third in draft mode now) free to those who joined my RevPros community at the Leader level and $5 each to everyone else who is in a hurry for a particular chapter and doesn't want to wait for the other volumes to be finished en masse. I will communicate with you offlist about your membership. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Brownell Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:11 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 09:33 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: Convincing a book distributor that Revolution has as much appeal to the unwashed masses as iTunes? Good luck with that one. -- Troy Amazon.com has a small publisher section that would allow Dan / Revolution to sell his book from the Amazon website. His book would pop up for any requests for books on Runtime Revolution. Of course Dan would need to take a 50% reduction in earnings to ask for that level of exposure and the percentage of loss to him might even be greater. It might be better to advertise the existence of his book and keep selling it direct. What you are really saying is that more Revolution exposure would be nice. Advertising could handle both issues and earn enough from it to pay for the print runs. 2 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolutionary Author of "Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought" http://www.revolutionpros.com for more info Available at Runtime Revolution Store (http://www.runrev.com/RevPress) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Major league cool utiltiy for Mac OSX!
That desktop switching stuff was one of the very few features of Linux desktop I found really useful. I'm going to look at this sucker. dan On Aug 5, 2004, at 10:27 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I recently came across a cool new Mac utility (Panther only) which really helps me on my Powerbook. It's at: http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/index.php It's called Desktop Manager and it changes the way you think about screen real estate. You can instantly switch between a number of desktops using whatever transition you like (I prefer the 'rotating cube). It reminds me of SWITCHER -- a very old Mac program written by Andy Hertzfeld (if you're old enough to remember THAT one, then you are a hardcore Mac fanatic;-) I also am using a new version of uControl - a key mapping utility found at: http://gnufoo.org/ucontrol/ucontrol.html which now has the cool ability to be able to emulate the mouse scroll wheel on your trackpad. It's as easy as pressing the fn key and moving your finger up/down to scroll a webpage or document. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
I'm afraid the bookstore route is closed to us for the moment. When Dreamcard gets enough traction and the software is available in stores, we may be able to convince some specialty places like Fry's to carry it, but mainstream bookstores aren't likely to touch it unless it comes from a major publisher or through an established distributor. Which is why Kevin and I have been working on trying to set up a publishing relationship on the series rather than cranking out more books for a handful of people to buy. We're still at it. Dan On Aug 5, 2004, at 9:33 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: On Aug 6, 2004, at 12:24 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote: For crying out loud, I just saw that someone has published a book on iTunes for Windows and is selling it in bookstores. Isn't there some way to get Dan's excellent book on Revolution in stores too? Convincing a book distributor that Revolution has as much appeal to the unwashed masses as iTunes? Good luck with that one. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Why not put an announcement in DDJ.com slashdot.org ? Both put in articles for books about programming and have a wide audience of ahem, geeks... Little is known or mentioned of RR or MC or hypercard anymore but Wired.com has run articles on it in the past. Surely a small article in each will draw hords to both RR and the book. One of the benefits of pushing the EuroRevCon has been just what you are referring to...exposure of Rev to people who may have not heard about it. Marketing a product or event is not easy and is usually expensive. The Apple Developer Connection Newsletter has carried a notice about the EuroRevCon for quite a few issues. The ADC newsletter goes out to approx. 200,000 people according to Rod McCall. For several issues the ADC has carried this announcement: At 2:39 -0700 7/19/04, Apple Developer Connection wrote: European Revolution Conference November 14-16 in Malta http://www.techietours.com/Rev/ Having the EuroRevCon be a success is also important, we need a few more people to sign on. If you are considering it please get in touch with me, just as Dan SHafer did this week when he told me wants to come and will be available to speak or otherwise do what he can to promote Rev. atb sims ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
I guess I got carried away... Before I get flamed, I withdraw any hint of profit making. Didn't mean to step on any toes here. Withdraw, withdraw, withdraw, sorry, sorry, sorry. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Brownell Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:39 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 07:19 AM, Dave LeYanna wrote: > Is his book "self-published"? , > if so I can help save some costs because I am a > partner in a Printing On Demand publisher. We do ISBN and everything > including a listing in "Books in Print". I'm sure that I'm cheaper > than anyone else. PLUS we are on demand meaning that he doesn't have > to buy any up front inventory. > > BTW how far has he progresses on the three vol. set? > > I purchased the "Pre-pub" deal (option C) and > haven't heard a thing since the pre-pub of vol. one. good> Dave I do ISBN too. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 07:19 AM, Dave LeYanna wrote: Is his book "self-published"? , if so I can help save some costs because I am a partner in a Printing On Demand publisher. We do ISBN and everything including a listing in "Books in Print". I'm sure that I'm cheaper than anyone else. PLUS we are on demand meaning that he doesn't have to buy any up front inventory. BTW how far has he progresses on the three vol. set? I purchased the "Pre-pub" deal (option C) and haven't heard a thing since the pre-pub of vol. one. Dave I do ISBN too. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Why not put an announcement in DDJ.com slashdot.org ? Both put in articles for books about programming and have a wide audience of ahem, geeks... Little is known or mentioned of RR or MC or hypercard anymore but Wired.com has run articles on it in the past. Surely a small article in each will draw hords to both RR and the book. Then, there is the reference to the old HC handbook... Why not use that? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark > Brownell > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 16:11 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely > > > > On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 09:33 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: > > > Convincing a book distributor that Revolution has as much appeal to > > the unwashed masses as iTunes? > > > > Good luck with that one. > > -- > > Troy > > Amazon.com has a small publisher section that would allow Dan / > Revolution to sell his book from the Amazon website. His book would pop > up for any requests for books on Runtime Revolution. Of course Dan > would need to take a 50% reduction in earnings to ask for that level of > exposure and the percentage of loss to him might even be greater. It > might be better to advertise the existence of his book and keep selling > it direct. What you are really saying is that more Revolution exposure > would be nice. Advertising could handle both issues and earn enough > from it to pay for the print runs. > > > 2 > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
Is his book "self-published"?, if so I can help save some costs because I am a partner in a Printing On Demand publisher. We do ISBN and everything including a listing in "Books in Print". I'm sure that I'm cheaper than anyone else. PLUS we are on demand meaning that he doesn't have to buy any up front inventory. BTW how far has he progresses on the three vol. set? I purchased the "Pre-pub" deal (option C) and haven't heard a thing since the pre-pub of vol. one. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Brownell Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:11 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 09:33 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: > Convincing a book distributor that Revolution has as much appeal to > the unwashed masses as iTunes? > > Good luck with that one. > -- > Troy Amazon.com has a small publisher section that would allow Dan / Revolution to sell his book from the Amazon website. His book would pop up for any requests for books on Runtime Revolution. Of course Dan would need to take a 50% reduction in earnings to ask for that level of exposure and the percentage of loss to him might even be greater. It might be better to advertise the existence of his book and keep selling it direct. What you are really saying is that more Revolution exposure would be nice. Advertising could handle both issues and earn enough from it to pay for the print runs. 2 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plea to sell Dan's book widely
On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 09:33 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: Convincing a book distributor that Revolution has as much appeal to the unwashed masses as iTunes? Good luck with that one. -- Troy Amazon.com has a small publisher section that would allow Dan / Revolution to sell his book from the Amazon website. His book would pop up for any requests for books on Runtime Revolution. Of course Dan would need to take a 50% reduction in earnings to ask for that level of exposure and the percentage of loss to him might even be greater. It might be better to advertise the existence of his book and keep selling it direct. What you are really saying is that more Revolution exposure would be nice. Advertising could handle both issues and earn enough from it to pay for the print runs. 2 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
IMPORTANT: Scripter's Scrapbook v4 Bug
The Scripter's Scrapbook v4.0 Important Bulletin If you are using the current version 4.0 of the Scripter's Scrapbook, there is an unlikely but potentially important bug in a sub-function of the File Attachments dialog window... If you use the File Attachment dialog's 'Save as' to re-create an attachment to you desktop, DO NOT select the auto-launch option that is then presented to you. The bug, now fixed for the upcoming release, can disable your Scrapbook in some situations. As a precautionary measure, all v4.0 files have been temporarily suspended on the website pending re-release. The good news is that it does not corrupt your program, there is no data loss is involved, and we can quickly fix it for you if you send your Scrapbook file to us at the address below. Our sincere apologies for any inconvenience. Hugh Senior FLCo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: GradientsN2O
Hello everyone, Im quite distressed. Abraham sent me a screenshot of GradientsN2O on MacOSX and it looks like as if I had been doing quite a mix of psychodelic drugs last night (could be his screengrabber did too!) ;) Two problems: 1) the menus use a backpattern is not sized to Mac's liking. I believe this is because the size of the backpattern used in the menu buttons is not the Mac "wanted" size (must by a power of 2)... 2) the left most button has a fixed size and changes its icons which are different sizes. Why does it look like the icon size overrides the buttons size? Makes you wonder why it works so nice on windows without respecting any sizes and why the mac must have these sizes or screw everything up... After the major major pain I had making those menus work as they are supposed to, Im just so discouraged to see this... I guess it will be a Windows/Linux release for the moment. I'll fix those graphics later this weekend if I muster the patience. Maybe a stupid plain backdrop for macs if there is no better solution. Too bad for the cool hilitedpattern I pained myself to do... Overide code for macs all over too... RGH. Is anyone using Linux that can confirm any visual problems? Why must we limit our programming environments with such stupidity and shortsight? OK, the Mac has it's old toolbox programming limits but must we linger in these limits to deliver 21st century software? Is there no way to have a mode of sorts that overides these bad behaviors/habits/limits? Is RunRev planning to kill these limits soon? cheers Xavier > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MisterX > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:54 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Ann: GradientsN2O > > > > Well, after a cool moire program, I had all the code required for yet > another cool palette in the N2O series! > > This cool tool creates gradients in images or across multiple buttons. You > can set the direction, color and luminosity of the colors, the color type > (fore, back, etc...), save the gradients (session only) and even choose > which controls in your selection should be colorized... > > Download (a big whopping 40KBs), screenshots at > http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=161 > > Enjoy > Xavier > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ANN: SimpleFilePreview
As I really dont have anything better to do, here is yet another release! This one is opensource, freeware and full of cool features! This stack serves two purposes: 1 Demonstrate how to read and write files in probably every possible way 2 Preview huge files that cannot be read in the usual text editors. (BBEdit might do it, UltraEdit requires a bit of tweaking to avoid huge delays). This stack does it in milliseconds ;) Other cool features are - the full file's information, - buffered reading forward or backwards, - a formatter that does ASCII or HEX (and a future formatter coming later that will allow other formating styles but which is not fully finished in this stack release). Download is here and is only 15KBs http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=61 Sorry, no screenshot. Enjoy Xavier ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error message "Can't find handler" (was "Object: value is not a boolean (true or false)")
J. Landman Gay heeft op donderdag, 5 aug 2004 om 18:09 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: On 8/5/04 4:09 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: I have a weird problem I can't solve. I get an error message "Object: value is not a boolean (true or false)" when calling a custom handler. The handler doesn't expect a boolean value; in fact it never arrives at the handler code, because the error occurs in the call. But the call works fine in the message box. This is a spurious error message that was being sent in version 2.2. Upgrading to version 2.2.1 fixes the problem. If you are already using 2.2.1 then we'll need to troubleshoot some more. Dar Scott heeft op donderdag, 5 aug 2004 om 18:06 (Europe/Amsterdam) het volgende geschreven: Check it in the beta. I installed 2.2.1 and tried it in the beta. The described error is gone, but there is another one now. It says "Can't find handler" I added a test function to both stacks with the same name to see which of the two is called. To my surprise, the one in the login stack is called! At least that explains the "Can't find handler" error. That is the stack with the executed script in it, but that one is closed at the moment of the call; the other stack should be the frontmost at that time and thus it should receive messages. Or am I wrong about this? Is there a way to explicitly tell RunRev which stack should handle the call? Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: slavic languages
Thanks Devin, but: This is the first thing I tried, but every character with a diacritical just shows up as a box. This is determined by what language support you have installed in the OS. In OS X, just choose the Polish input from the keyboard menu and you should automatically be able to type Polish in a Revolution field. That's why I've been fooling around with unicode & html. Nothing works. And it's not my keyboard, because this works in all word processors. Any other solutions? Thanks Lars ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
