Datagrid closeField editor

2009-11-27 Thread Yves COPPE

Hi list (and trevor !)


I have a form table with a custom behavior script to pick Up the  
mouseDown event

When I double click a "body" fld, the fld comes on "edit mode"
when I click outside the "body fld" the edit mode closes

I would like at this moment to change a menu in a pull down btn
I don't find how I can pick up the "close fld editor" msg ...

Thanks.


Greetings.

Yves COPPE
yvesco...@skynet.be

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Re: Interesting turn of events

2009-11-27 Thread J. Landman Gay

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Not finding the handlers I
expected to find, I started searching the copious backups I had made
and found they all lacked the final tweeks.


Don't feel bad, I think we've all done that at some point. I'm glad it's 
something fixable, and that we don't have to call in the big engineering 
guns. And thanks for letting us know.


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Re: Revolution is on Slashdot...

2009-11-27 Thread Mark Swindell
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the forum interface was "cumbersome." 
 (I might have chosen a less conciliatory adjective.)  A lot a brain on display 
there, I'm not sure how much wisdom.

Mark

On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Mikey wrote:
> 
>> /. is from severe tech heads for severe tech heads.
> 
> There seem to be many very smart people there, but they have an unusually 
> high tolerance for one of the more cumbersome UIs ever deployed for 
> presenting a nested-thread discussion.
> 
> I read only a few dozen of the replies there, but what I read I enjoyed very 
> much.  Slashdot is a consistently reliable source for quality recreational 
> argument.
> 
> Congrats, Kev:  when your product gets flamed by the slashdot crowd you know 
> you've arrived. ;)
> 
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Re: Interesting turn of events

2009-11-27 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Well, Jaqi,

I've got egg on my face once again. Turns out that with all of the various 
things I have going on these days, that I must have inadvertently, trashed my 
final stack - the one that had all my most recent changes - the keydown events. 
Not finding the handlers I expected to find, I started searching the copious 
backups I had made and found they all lacked the final tweeks. Once rewritten, 
everything works fine and still opens and works under 3.5 too. It was the 
corresponding upgrade to 4.0 that made me suspect that it was the culprit. I'll 
blame it on my eyesight one more time. I REALLY have to be careful about what I 
trash these days, since I don't have the Finder Fonts pumped up as large as 
everything else with which I work.

My apologies,

Joe Wilkins

On Nov 27, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> Hi Jaqi,
> 
> Your suggested fixes didn't fix anything. There are actually a number of 
> other things, such as menus that don't work, though the commandkey 
> equivalents for them do. I guess it's pretty obvious that the problem is not 
> superficial and I'll have to spend more time exploring things than I have at 
> my disposal. (sigh!) Actually, when I opened the stack from 3.5, I did it 
> from the File Menu, since I've set 4.0 as the default. BTW, I am using Snow 
> Leopard.
> 
> Thanks, once I've figured things out I'll post the cure - or what the problem 
> is/was hopefully. 
> 
> Joe Wilkins
> 
> On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
> 
>> I haven't seen any differences between keydown/keyup events between 
>> versions. The most likely reason for loss of key events is that a handler is 
>> intercepting them somewhere. Try suspending development tools and see if 
>> they work again. Also make sure the Messages button is not bolded in Rev's 
>> toolbar; turning off messages will stop many events from being passed to 
>> your stack.
>> 
>> The issue with 3.5 reporting a corrupted stack was a known bug, now fixed in 
>> 4.0. Your stack was never corrupted, it was just a glitch which you could 
>> work around by opening the stack from the File menu rather than by 
>> double-clicking. The bug occured even before 4.0 was available, and the same 
>> warning appeared with 3.5 stacks. It was spurious and did not affect or 
>> alter the stack in any way. The bug only occured on Snow Leopard machines.
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Troy Rollins


On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Martin Blackman wrote:


For dummy web guys like me, can this framework replace a content
management solution like Mambo, Drupal ?


It falls into the same general category, but you need to code pretty  
much everything, as it doesn't have a back-end with a UI like those  
do. That said, all the things you hate about those tools and their  
UI's goes away.  ;-)


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Re: Interesting turn of events

2009-11-27 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Jaqi,

Your suggested fixes didn't fix anything. There are actually a number of other 
things, such as menus that don't work, though the commandkey equivalents for 
them do. I guess it's pretty obvious that the problem is not superficial and 
I'll have to spend more time exploring things than I have at my disposal. 
(sigh!) Actually, when I opened the stack from 3.5, I did it from the File 
Menu, since I've set 4.0 as the default. BTW, I am using Snow Leopard.

Thanks, once I've figured things out I'll post the cure - or what the problem 
is/was hopefully. 

Joe Wilkins

On Nov 27, 2009, at 7:49 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> I haven't seen any differences between keydown/keyup events between versions. 
> The most likely reason for loss of key events is that a handler is 
> intercepting them somewhere. Try suspending development tools and see if they 
> work again. Also make sure the Messages button is not bolded in Rev's 
> toolbar; turning off messages will stop many events from being passed to your 
> stack.
> 
> The issue with 3.5 reporting a corrupted stack was a known bug, now fixed in 
> 4.0. Your stack was never corrupted, it was just a glitch which you could 
> work around by opening the stack from the File menu rather than by 
> double-clicking. The bug occured even before 4.0 was available, and the same 
> warning appeared with 3.5 stacks. It was spurious and did not affect or alter 
> the stack in any way. The bug only occured on Snow Leopard machines.

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Re: Interesting turn of events

2009-11-27 Thread J. Landman Gay

Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Hi run-revers,

After licensing 4.0 I opened a stack that I had completed using 3.5.
There are a number of things it no longer does correctly, associated
mostly with keydown events. So I tried to open it directly from 3.5
after closing it under 4.0. It then reported that the stack is
corrupted.  After closing 3.5 and double clicking directly on the
stack, it once again opened, and the commands/events that weren't
working before are still not working. So, it seems that opening a
stack with 4.0 makes it so you cannot go back and use it with 3.5.
Kind of nasty turn of events.


I haven't seen any differences between keydown/keyup events between 
versions. The most likely reason for loss of key events is that a 
handler is intercepting them somewhere. Try suspending development tools 
and see if they work again. Also make sure the Messages button is not 
bolded in Rev's toolbar; turning off messages will stop many events from 
being passed to your stack.


The issue with 3.5 reporting a corrupted stack was a known bug, now 
fixed in 4.0. Your stack was never corrupted, it was just a glitch which 
you could work around by opening the stack from the File menu rather 
than by double-clicking. The bug occured even before 4.0 was available, 
and the same warning appeared with 3.5 stacks. It was spurious and did 
not affect or alter the stack in any way. The bug only occured on Snow 
Leopard machines.



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Re: Revolution is on Slashdot...

2009-11-27 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mikey wrote:


/. is from severe tech heads for severe tech heads.


There seem to be many very smart people there, but they have an 
unusually high tolerance for one of the more cumbersome UIs ever 
deployed for presenting a nested-thread discussion.


I read only a few dozen of the replies there, but what I read I enjoyed 
very much.  Slashdot is a consistently reliable source for quality 
recreational argument.


Congrats, Kev:  when your product gets flamed by the slashdot crowd you 
know you've arrived. ;)


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Martin Blackman
For dummy web guys like me, can this framework replace a content
management solution like Mambo, Drupal ?

2009/11/28 Troy Rollins :
>
> On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Ralf Bitter wrote:
>
>> I am glad you like it, thanks a lot.
>
> I think it would be awesome if revIgniter were just added as an optional
> install to on-rev's control panel.
>
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> http://www.rpsystems.net
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Interesting turn of events

2009-11-27 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi run-revers,

After licensing 4.0 I opened a stack that I had completed using 3.5. There are 
a number of things it no longer does correctly, associated mostly with keydown 
events. So I tried to open it directly from 3.5 after closing it under 4.0. It 
then reported that the stack is corrupted.  After closing 3.5 and double 
clicking directly on the stack, it once again opened, and the commands/events 
that weren't working before are still not working. So, it seems that opening a 
stack with 4.0 makes it so you cannot go back and use it with 3.5. Kind of 
nasty turn of events.

Just thought someone would like to know about this.

Joe Wilkins
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Recording with RunRev -- Best Config?

2009-11-27 Thread Sivakatirswami
Hmmm. a little rev stack widget I made years ago for recording no longer 
works... probably lots of changes since 2.1 or whatever rev version I 
was using way back when...


Is anyone doing recording with runRev 4.0?  Can you clue us in to the 
best settings/configuration to use for the best quality recording? I 
really don't care what the output format is... I'll use Switch or 
Audacity to get to MP3 in the end


And OT question, are their *any* USB mic headsets that deliver quality 
voice recording? I'm using a plantronics wireless USB headset now but 
recording with this fellow is quite substand.


We have this incredible Neuman Berlin professional mic, but there's a 
lot of set up overhead...


Thanks!
Sivakatirswami



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Re: RunRevLive.09 Conference DVD set

2009-11-27 Thread Marian Petrides
I'm hoping really soon, since it is advertised as part of the megabundle we 
just got an email about.  But, official world from RunRev would be nice.

On Nov 27, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> ??
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Re-2: Join the debate

2009-11-27 Thread runrev260805
Richmond, you are right with snobbery.

In the 80s i trained as a programmer (dual education system - no  university 
education). I programmed Cobol under BS2000, C under Xenix 86 and AT&T Unix 
System V. Later Pascal under Windows. 
But we were always sneered by the guys which studied informatics, because they 
thought that only they are real programmers.  But even between us "dual 
education system" programmers there were
such discussions. The  younger C programmers, who did not learn older languages 
like Cobol, always grin at us "older" ones, when we still were programming 
things in cobol.

I gave up to defend myself, why i am using a specific language.

I for me used the programming language, which i thought was the best for the 
needs of each single project. And i am still doing so.

Because of that, i also worked with Asymetrix Toolbook, mFactory´s mTropolis 
and Macromedia´s Director in the past and now with Revolution Enterprise.

Although i am not perfect in revTalk, i am much faster then in any other 
language.
I am learning more and more each time i am working with Rev.

I am aware, that i cannot do everything in Rev, but that´s okay.
But the thing that can be done in Rev, can be done fast and with satisfaction.

And please do not forget the outstanding maling list. One can learn so much, 
just following it.
The people help each other regardless if a newbie or a professional is asking.  
No inulsts, no "RTFM" comments. But whom do i tell
This list definitely increases the value of Revolution.

Switching over to Revolution was one of the best decisions i have ever made 
(except marrying my wife and getting father, of course ;-) )

I am just sorry, that i did not switch earlier to Revolution.

Regards,

Matthias


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Join the debate (27-Nov-2009 23:22)
From:Richmond Mathewson 
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> On 11/28/09 12:06 AM, Judy Perry wrote:
> > True...
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Mark Wieder wrote:
> >
> >> Thursday, November 26, 2009, 8:48:22 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's looking kinda brutal...
> >>
> >> Par for the course. To my recollection, there haven't been any
> >> slashdot threads that didn't degenerate into drivel within about three
> >> comments.
> >
> Personally I get tired of the "dumbing-down or not" debate because
> the whole thing is really a matter of TASTE, VIEWPOINT, SNOBBERY
> and how important it is to protect the "programmer" as an elite
> priesthood that admits the chosen few after a rigorous 7-8 years
> at University.
> 
> Runtime Revolution works without having to sweat over learning
> all sorts of extremely obscure terms that have little or no
> correspondence to other terms . . . while C++ and so on involve
> the would-be programmer in a steep learning curve.
> 
> Good enough for me;
> 
> But, Hey, I describe myself as a teacher who "does a bit of programming
> on the side"; so I have no real axes to grind.
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Re: Join the debate

2009-11-27 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 11/28/09 12:06 AM, Judy Perry wrote:

True...

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Mark Wieder wrote:


Thursday, November 26, 2009, 8:48:22 PM, you wrote:


It's looking kinda brutal...


Par for the course. To my recollection, there haven't been any
slashdot threads that didn't degenerate into drivel within about three
comments.



Personally I get tired of the "dumbing-down or not" debate because
the whole thing is really a matter of TASTE, VIEWPOINT, SNOBBERY
and how important it is to protect the "programmer" as an elite
priesthood that admits the chosen few after a rigorous 7-8 years
at University.

Runtime Revolution works without having to sweat over learning
all sorts of extremely obscure terms that have little or no
correspondence to other terms . . . while C++ and so on involve
the would-be programmer in a steep learning curve.

Good enough for me;

But, Hey, I describe myself as a teacher who "does a bit of programming
on the side"; so I have no real axes to grind.
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Re: Join the debate

2009-11-27 Thread Judy Perry

True...

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, Mark Wieder wrote:


Thursday, November 26, 2009, 8:48:22 PM, you wrote:


It's looking kinda brutal...


Par for the course. To my recollection, there haven't been any
slashdot threads that didn't degenerate into drivel within about three
comments.

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RunRevLive.09 Conference DVD set

2009-11-27 Thread Richmond Mathewson

??
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printerOutput

2009-11-27 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On Mac OS X I did this:

on mouseUp
   set the printerOutput to file: "Nonsense.pdf"
   print this card
end mouseUp

and had no joy . . .

Help gratefully received.

sincerely, Richmond.
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Re: Sarah's cal stack

2009-11-27 Thread François Chaplais

Le 26 nov. 2009 à 23:39, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :

> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:00 AM, jim sims  wrote:
>> Can anyone give me the url to DL Sarah's calendar stack?
>> 
>> Seems that troz.net  is not working here.
> 
> 
> I changed the structure when I converted my site to On-Rev, but it all
> seems to be working. Maybe you had an older link that was no longer
> valid.
> Anyway, if you go to  you should be able to
> find all my stacks there.
> You can search for Calendar, or click the link to show Utility stacks
> or All stacks.
> 
> René's link (thanks for answering René) points to my irev-scripted
> calendar, which is not a standalone stack.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sarah
Hi Sarah! I just had a look at your site and I see you state
---
Snow Leopard and Revolution

After initial testing, it appears that Revolution and the standalones it 
creates, are fully-compatible with Snow Leopard, although they are 32-bit 
applications, not 64-bit. However Revlets do not run in Snow Leopard's Safari 
unless it is switched to run in 32-bit mode. This is done by selecting the 
application in the Finder and using "Get Info". Then check the "Open in 32-bit 
mode" checkbox. Re-launch Safari and all will be well.
--

Well I am running SL 10.6.2 with 64 bit safari and the runrev revlet demo plays 
fine, as well as a basic example I wrote essentially for testing the embedding 
within RapidWeaver.

Cheers
François
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Re: revIgniter - setting the base url

2009-11-27 Thread Ralf Bitter
Pierre,

thanks for your kind words and no, the problem
has nothing to do with the on-rev standard setup.
It was just my fault, but the bug is fixed and a new
version (0.9.1a) with upgrade instructions  in the user guide
can be downloaded.

Ralf


On 27.11.2009, at 16:54, Pierre Sahores wrote:

> Bravo and Thanks to share your incredibly clear and usefull AJAX/MVC framwork 
> Ralf.
> 
> Coul'nt get my eyes out of it for most of last night ;-)
> 
> We, yet, just need to get the server-side engine out to become able to run 
> real cool apps out of our on-rev accounts...
> 
> About what Nicolas asked about, it seems that the trouble could have to do 
> with the on-rev standard setup of the .htaccess config, is'nt ?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
> Le 27 nov. 09 à 12:07, Ralf Bitter a écrit :
> 
>> Nicolas,
>> 
>> you did it right. It is my fault. There is a problem
>> if one puts the revIgniter system into a subfolder of
>> the root.
>> 
>> In your case
>> put "http://kweto.com/"; into gConfig["baseUrl"]
>> should work, but it doesn't.
>> 
>> I will look into it immediately. In the meantime you
>> could create a subdomain for your testing purposes like:
>> 
>> http://yourSubDomain.kweto.com/
>> 
>> and put the revIgniter files into the root of this subdomain.
>> Then your setting should read:
>> 
>> put "http://yourSubDomain.kweto.com/"; into gConfig["baseUrl"]
>> This works.
>> 
>> 
>> Ralf
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Re: Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE

2009-11-27 Thread runrev260805
Hi Richard,

i think that has to do with security settings in IE. I also have a customer, 
which cannot use the plugin. He always just sees the image with the link to the 
Download section.

On monday i will check that settings on his machine, then i will know more.


Btw.: I had to place my on "no-web-plugin" image, because the default link in 
the html-file, which Revolution creates, is not valid. 

Regards,

Matthias



 Original Message 
Subject: Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE (27-Nov-2009 19:57)
From:Richard Miller 
To:  runrev260...@m-r-d.de

> Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE.
> After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is
> missing.
> 
> I have submitted a report.
> 
> Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it?
> 
> Thanks.
> Richard Miller
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Troy Rollins


On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Ralf Bitter wrote:


I am glad you like it, thanks a lot.


I think it would be awesome if revIgniter were just added as an  
optional install to on-rev's control panel.


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Re: SOAP

2009-11-27 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre-

Friday, November 27, 2009, 10:05:30 AM, you wrote:

> :-O thanks I am not using SOAP right now but I've tried building those
> many many years ago and know how hard they are.

Yeah - figured I'd save someone some work. The hardest part for me was
figuring out the https authentication, and that took a lot of network
snooping to get right. Unfortunately there's no one-size-fits-all
solution for that.

...and for anyone who's doing any network stuff and doesn't already
know about ngrep:

http://ngrep.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Michael Kann
Kevin, hire this guy!


  
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Can't get revweb to run under Windows 7 and IE

2009-11-27 Thread Richard Miller

Customer reports he installed revweb under Windows 7 and latest IE.
After installation, he tries to run a revlet, but is told the plugin is
missing.

I have submitted a report.

Anyone else run into this... and maybe solve it?

Thanks.
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Revlet caching (was...Safari caches revlet)

2009-11-27 Thread Richard Miller

I've tried using this code in my static html revlet launch page, but I'm
not convinced it is causing the revlet to be reloaded each time changes
are made:








Suggestions?

Thanks.
Richard Miller



Brian Yennie wrote:
One common technique if you want to force a new version to be loaded 
is to use a "cache busting" URL to the Revlet in your HTML. Just add a 
query string to the end, and change it to reflect a new version.


myrevlet.rev ===> myrevlet.rev?v=1.0 ===> myrevlet.rev?v=2.0 > etc.

From then on, whenever you update the Revlet, just change the query 
string on the end. New URL = fresh copy.


Of course, keep in mind that if your Revlet is hosted on a static 
page, you've just pushed the caching issue up the ladder one rung. 
Thus it will need to be on a dynamic page which could be accomplished 
with OnRev hosting or really any other scripting solution (PHP, Perl, 
client-side Javascript, etc).


Another variation would be to append a fine-grained time stamp -- thus 
causing a reload every time. There are also a multitude of ways to do 
this using HTTP headers, but I find the URL tricks a lot easier to 
control.


Anyone know of a way to force Safari to reload a revlet other than 
emptying the cache?
When I upload a new version of a revlet, Firefox dutifully loads the 
new version, but Safari insists on using a cached version.


Thanks,


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Re: SOAP

2009-11-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark,

:-O thanks I am not using SOAP right now but I've tried building those
many many years ago and know how hard they are.

Cheers
andre

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> David-
>
> Thursday, November 26, 2009, 1:04:11 AM, you wrote:
>
> > It seems there is no built in library as of the time of this post to do
> > SOAP calls with Rev. However, Mark Weider has written a helpful SOAP
> > library in Rev that he has graciously made available and it could likely
> > be is of great service in calling SOAP functions. Also, Bruce Pokras
> > uses Rev to make SOAP calls to the European Patent Office by making
> > templates for the requests and then filling in the values of any
> > parameters on the fly.
>
> I just uploaded a revised version of my SOAP library to revOnline as
> well, adding functions to generate web service function prototypes
> from WSDL files.
>
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Focus on field don't detect arrow keys

2009-11-27 Thread JosepM

Hi,

What I'm doing wrong? I have a field that put the focus in another field,
and I want that in this second field select a line moving the arrow keys.
The second field recived the focus but the arrow key isn't detected until I
click inside the field.

Why?


Salut,
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Re: Join the debate

2009-11-27 Thread Andre Garzia
I don't think the plugin is ready for prime time just yet...

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Mikey  wrote:

> Look, /. is a very hard-core tech site.  RR is not for this group of
> people.  The same way that HC was rejected by hard core developers in the
> 80's and early 90's, RR shouldn't expect a better reception now.  "Easier"
> doesn't play with these people, in general.  RR and HC before it will be
> criticized by the hard core as too verbose.
>
> But that's ok.  Getting noticed is good.
>
> Kevin, I also think you should approach Ajaxian since you have a
> web-enabled
> plugin.
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Ralf,

why don't you set a repository for it in bitbucket.org or github.org? I have
one for my tools at hg.andregarzia.com (which is hosted on bitbucket.org).
It would make it easier to manage the framework and accept contributions.

(I should port some AWS stuff for it shortly)

Cheers
Andre

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ralf Bitter  wrote:

> Andre,
>
> I am glad you like it, thanks a lot.
> Watch out, there is currently a problem (404) if you
> place revIgniter in a subfolder of root.
> I am about to fix this.
>
> Ralf
>
>
> On 27.11.2009, at 15:46, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
> > Ralf,
> >
> > Congratulations my friend! I am really impressed, you made my life so
> much
> > easier now! :D
> >
> > Cheers
> > andre
> >
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Re: Join the debate

2009-11-27 Thread Mark Wieder
Mikey-

Friday, November 27, 2009, 7:44:36 AM, you wrote:

> But that's ok.  Getting noticed is good.

Yep...
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1458524&cid=30241480

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[ANN] tRev Feature Friday - drag-n-drop your stacks!

2009-11-27 Thread Jerry Daniels

What's new this Friday in tRev-land?

Watch tRev's new drag-n-drop stacks and check out several very nice  
optimizations:


http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-n-drop-stacks-0

Drag-n-drop stacks in Object Browser:
- Make a mainstack a sub stack; make a sub stack a main stack.
- HOW: Just drag-n-drop in tRev's Object Browser!
- Hold down the shift key to make a copy of a stack, also!

New column buttons for the Object Browser:
- There's a new Visible column button for stacks.
- Close column button changes to Delete if you select a sub stack.

A new mode:
- Run tRev in lean-n-mean mode with no headers, footers or tooltips.
- This minimalist mode also offers you more vertical space for code!

Better saving:
- Changes made via the  tRev column buttons now mark their stacks as  
edited.
- Thus you are prompted to save your stacks in Rev unless you saved  
them in tRev.
- Saving from the object browser or the code editor in tRev also does  
a better job of

  marking main stacks and sub stacks as saved.
- You are not prompted to save stacks when you already have!

Speed in the Object Browser:
- All of tRev's column buttons work much faster.
- They are making far fewer trips back to Rev.
- Many of these operations are over 20 times faster.

Oh, yes...
- Edit your stack names in the browser just like cards and controls.

Check it out:

http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-n-drop-stacks-0

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Want to edit something? We can help!
http://reveditor.com
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Re: Revolution is on Slashdot...

2009-11-27 Thread Kevin Miller
On 27/11/2009 15:39, "Mikey"  wrote:

> /. is from severe tech heads for severe tech heads.  RR will never be
> accepted by this group.  This isn't the target audience.

Of course there are going to be plenty of people who are like that. But
there will also be plenty of people who will be interested in what we have
to offer. Slashdot debates always have a mind of their own and attract a
certain type, its just par for the course. No harm in weighting in here and
there but some people will have preformed opinions which we're not going to
change. A lot of readers don't go into the debates at all but have visited
our site. Lots of positive interest from that, which is great!

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: revIgniter - setting the base url

2009-11-27 Thread Pierre Sahores
Bravo and Thanks to share your incredibly clear and usefull AJAX/MVC  
framwork Ralf.


Coul'nt get my eyes out of it for most of last night ;-)

We, yet, just need to get the server-side engine out to become able to  
run real cool apps out of our on-rev accounts...


About what Nicolas asked about, it seems that the trouble could have  
to do with the on-rev standard setup of the .htaccess config, is'nt ?


Kind Regards,

Pierre


Le 27 nov. 09 à 12:07, Ralf Bitter a écrit :


Nicolas,

you did it right. It is my fault. There is a problem
if one puts the revIgniter system into a subfolder of
the root.

In your case
put "http://kweto.com/"; into gConfig["baseUrl"]
should work, but it doesn't.

I will look into it immediately. In the meantime you
could create a subdomain for your testing purposes like:

http://yourSubDomain.kweto.com/

and put the revIgniter files into the root of this subdomain.
Then your setting should read:

put "http://yourSubDomain.kweto.com/"; into gConfig["baseUrl"]
This works.


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Ralf Bitter
Andre,

I am glad you like it, thanks a lot. 
Watch out, there is currently a problem (404) if you
place revIgniter in a subfolder of root.
I am about to fix this.

Ralf


On 27.11.2009, at 15:46, Andre Garzia wrote:

> Ralf,
> 
> Congratulations my friend! I am really impressed, you made my life so much
> easier now! :D
> 
> Cheers
> andre
> 

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Re: Join the debate

2009-11-27 Thread Mikey
Look, /. is a very hard-core tech site.  RR is not for this group of
people.  The same way that HC was rejected by hard core developers in the
80's and early 90's, RR shouldn't expect a better reception now.  "Easier"
doesn't play with these people, in general.  RR and HC before it will be
criticized by the hard core as too verbose.

But that's ok.  Getting noticed is good.

Kevin, I also think you should approach Ajaxian since you have a web-enabled
plugin.
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Re: Revolution is on Slashdot...

2009-11-27 Thread Mikey
/. is from severe tech heads for severe tech heads.  RR will never be
accepted by this group.  This isn't the target audience.
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Ralf,

Congratulations my friend! I am really impressed, you made my life so much
easier now! :D

Cheers
andre

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ralf Bitter  wrote:

> Malte,
>
> thanks a lot. If there is anybody interested in an article I am
> prepared to write one, something like a tutorial. Currently I am
> busy with another task and I am really bad as to multitasking.
>
> Gruß
>
> Ralf
>
> On 27.11.2009, at 09:36, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:
>
> > Moin Ralf,
> >
> > first of all: This looks awesome. Have you considdered writing a
> newsletter article about it, going a bit more into detail? I am looking
> forward to try this out, however it will not be before QI 2010, as I am so
> packed with work at the moment. But this surely looks like fun to use.
> >
> > Grüße,
> >
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Revolution is on Slashdot...

2009-11-27 Thread Andre Garzia
OMG!

We reached the mainstream media :-O

http://developers.slashdot.org/story/09/11/26/2016255/Dumbing-Down-Programming?art_pos=8

I don't like the focus of the piece let us all comment.

Silly editors.

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Re: revIgniter - setting the base url

2009-11-27 Thread Nicolas Cueto
The subdomain method worked.

Thank you, Ralf.

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Ralf Bitter
Malte,

thanks a lot. If there is anybody interested in an article I am
prepared to write one, something like a tutorial. Currently I am
busy with another task and I am really bad as to multitasking.

Gruß

Ralf

On 27.11.2009, at 09:36, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

> Moin Ralf,
> 
> first of all: This looks awesome. Have you considdered writing a newsletter 
> article about it, going a bit more into detail? I am looking forward to try 
> this out, however it will not be before QI 2010, as I am so packed with work 
> at the moment. But this surely looks like fun to use.
> 
> Grüße,
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Re: revIgniter - setting the base url

2009-11-27 Thread Ralf Bitter
Nicolas,

you did it right. It is my fault. There is a problem
if one puts the revIgniter system into a subfolder of
the root.

In your case
put "http://kweto.com/"; into gConfig["baseUrl"]
should work, but it doesn't.

I will look into it immediately. In the meantime you
could create a subdomain for your testing purposes like:

http://yourSubDomain.kweto.com/

and put the revIgniter files into the root of this subdomain.
Then your setting should read:

put "http://yourSubDomain.kweto.com/"; into gConfig["baseUrl"]
This works.


Ralf


On 27.11.2009, at 10:06, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

> Ralf,
> 
> I am unsure what revIgniter is designed, but, if your website is based
> on it, it looks great!
> 
> A newbie question, about setting the base url in 
> application/config/config.irev.
> 
> Everything works fine if I put the index.irev file and the revIgniter
> folders in my root directory (kweto.com) and then set
> gConfig["baseUrl"] to  "http://kweto.com/";.
> 
> I then tried moving everything to a folder below my root directory
> (kweto.com/revIgniter/)  and setting gConfig["baseUrl"] to
> "http://kweto.com/revIgniter/";.
> 
> That gave me a 404 error.
> 
> I'm guessing that I'm not specifying correctly the directory path on
> my server. I've tried combinations with "/public_html/" and "/home/",
> but still no luck.
> 
> Does anyone know what path I'm suppose to specify?
> 
> Or is this a cPanel issue?
> 
> Thank you -- for any answers, and to Ralf for what is obviously
> outstanding work.
> 
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Luis

Hiya,

Maybe I'm going too far out... what about combining revIgniter with  
the GLX2 Framework...?


Cheers,

Luis.


On 27 Nov 2009, at 08:26, Ralf Bitter wrote:


Troy,

pleased to read your encouraging comment. If you are using
revIgniter please don't hesitate to point to any bugs you
may find. Criticism is welcome too. The more feedback I
get, the better. I am really anxious to make revIgniter
a useful time saver.

Ralf


On 27.11.2009, at 05:38, Troy Rollins wrote:



On Nov 26, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Ralf Bitter wrote:


I'm pleased to announce the alpha release of revIgniter.
revIgniter is a Web Application Development Framework
modeled on CodeIgniter, Ellislab, Inc. for people who build
web sites using revTalk.


Ralf, this looks really great.

Thanks for the generous licensing approach as well. I may consider  
using this for a couple of upcoming projects.


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revIgniter - setting the base url

2009-11-27 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Ralf,

I am unsure what revIgniter is designed, but, if your website is based
on it, it looks great!

A newbie question, about setting the base url in application/config/config.irev.

Everything works fine if I put the index.irev file and the revIgniter
folders in my root directory (kweto.com) and then set
gConfig["baseUrl"] to  "http://kweto.com/";.

I then tried moving everything to a folder below my root directory
(kweto.com/revIgniter/)  and setting gConfig["baseUrl"] to
"http://kweto.com/revIgniter/";.

That gave me a 404 error.

I'm guessing that I'm not specifying correctly the directory path on
my server. I've tried combinations with "/public_html/" and "/home/",
but still no luck.

Does anyone know what path I'm suppose to specify?

Or is this a cPanel issue?

Thank you -- for any answers, and to Ralf for what is obviously
outstanding work.

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill

Moin Ralf,

first of all: This looks awesome. Have you considdered writing a  
newsletter article about it, going a bit more into detail? I am  
looking forward to try this out, however it will not be before QI  
2010, as I am so packed with work at the moment. But this surely looks  
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter

2009-11-27 Thread Ralf Bitter
Troy,

pleased to read your encouraging comment. If you are using
revIgniter please don't hesitate to point to any bugs you
may find. Criticism is welcome too. The more feedback I
get, the better. I am really anxious to make revIgniter
a useful time saver.

Ralf


On 27.11.2009, at 05:38, Troy Rollins wrote:

> 
> On Nov 26, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Ralf Bitter wrote:
> 
>> I'm pleased to announce the alpha release of revIgniter.
>> revIgniter is a Web Application Development Framework
>> modeled on CodeIgniter, Ellislab, Inc. for people who build
>> web sites using revTalk.
> 
> Ralf, this looks really great.
> 
> Thanks for the generous licensing approach as well. I may consider using this 
> for a couple of upcoming projects.
> 
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> http://www.rpsystems.net
> 
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