Re: [OT] Eee PC - got one?
I second that huh?! The only think I can think of is that his family wouldn't allow a laptop, but did allow the Eee. Unless there is some international law against bringing laptops into/out of countries. Mark Schonewille wrote: Huh?! Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 26 mrt 2008, at 10:54, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Took it across the Atlantic when he was supposed to be on a brief 'holiday' with his family - a laptop would have been illegal, but he was allowed to get away with taking the Eee. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error -43 starting recording
It turns out this only happens with QuickTime 7.4.1 (at least it didn't happen with QT 7.2) on Windows. I've logged it as bug # 6076. Peter T. Evensen wrote: Hi, Eric, That doesn't really help. I'm still getting the error. The second link only apply to streaming Real Audio media. I don't understand File not found (if that indeed is what error -43 means with record sound file) means in this context. It's supposed to be creating the file. Anyone ever see this? Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Peter, http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107032 -- Mac http://service.real.com/help/errors/error43.html -- Win Hope this helps. Le 7 mars 08 à 18:49, Peter T. Evensen a écrit : I'm trying to 'record sound file compare.wav' and I'm getting Error -43 starting recording. What does that mean? -43 on Mac means file not found. I am on Windows XP, running Rev 2.8.1 I had this working a while ago. Now when I come back to the project, it isn't working. Thanks! -- Peter T. Evensen Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Record sound no longer works in XP with Rev 2.7.1
It appears that set the dontUseQT to true doesn't force record sound file to use MCI. Is that what you are doing? I still get the error -43 starting recording error message. Or do you have to use MCISendString()? Richard Miller wrote: I just updated to Quicktime 7.4.1 on an XP Home and a Vista computer. Using Rev 2.7.1, the record sound command appears dead. Has this been reported by others? It's certainly a serious problem for a few of my programs. The MCI alternative still works, but I find that not nearly as flexible. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error -43 starting recording
Hi, Eric, That doesn't really help. I'm still getting the error. The second link only apply to streaming Real Audio media. I don't understand File not found (if that indeed is what error -43 means with record sound file) means in this context. It's supposed to be creating the file. Anyone ever see this? Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Peter, http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107032 -- Mac http://service.real.com/help/errors/error43.html -- Win Hope this helps. Le 7 mars 08 à 18:49, Peter T. Evensen a écrit : I'm trying to 'record sound file compare.wav' and I'm getting Error -43 starting recording. What does that mean? -43 on Mac means file not found. I am on Windows XP, running Rev 2.8.1 I had this working a while ago. Now when I come back to the project, it isn't working. Thanks! -- Peter T. Evensen Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Error -43 starting recording
I'm trying to 'record sound file compare.wav' and I'm getting Error -43 starting recording. What does that mean? -43 on Mac means file not found. I am on Windows XP, running Rev 2.8.1 I had this working a while ago. Now when I come back to the project, it isn't working. Thanks! -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
supported audio formats in the play command.
What audio formats does the play command support? Evidently it doesn't support mp3. play soundFilename plays a lot more quickly than set the filename of player x to soundFilename; start player x' I was looking at replacing my players with the play command, but it appears that I won't be able to without changing the file format. -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Titlebar-less application question
What you can do is set put the title bar back on the window and set the windowShape to a graphic the size of the window. When a window's windowShape is set, you won't see the title bar, but it will now show up in the alt-tab list (and the task bar at the bottom). -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com mfstuart wrote: Hi all, I've created an application with no title bar, for WINXP (using Rev 2.8.1). I've added a handler for the user to drag the window/stack around - no problem. (thanx to this forum) Q1. But when I use the Alt-Tab to switch application, I do not see the application in the dialog of open applications. Anyone know what to do to get the application to appear in the list of open applications? Q2. I have a resize-button in the bottom right of the window/stack - which works great (thanx to this forum), but would also like to allow the user to mouse-over the edge of the window/stack and allow them to resize that way, with the dragging the mouse while down. The whole issue here is that I have removed the Title bar of the stack and now I have to do all this extra work for resizing. This is not a problem, just don't know how to approach this issue. Anyone with help on this? Thanx, Mark Stuart ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Microsoft XML
I should have said something on digg.com about #2. I don't really consider #2 a problem. It has to do with converting decimal to binary. Excel stores numbers as numbers, not as text, and there is no way to store 12345.12345 in binary as exactly that. -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com Alex Shaw wrote: Hi I was thinking how nice it would be if a project of mine could natively read write excel documents. Should be easy to write a parser in rev, right? Well after reading this article that idea has be thrown into the wastebin. http://www.arstdesign.com/articles/OOXML-is-defective-by-design.html regards alex ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: why can't I create a folder with a variable?
Authorware on Windows has the same problem--it can only create one level at a time. I always thought it was an Authorware issue, but maybe it's a Windows issue. Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I found out it's not a problem of having a variable or a constant, but either the depth of path or the number of chars of the folder to be created not in the currentDirectory butC:/foo/foo/foo. Does anybody know of these restrictions on Win XP? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. August 2007 09:32 An: Revlist Betreff: why can't I create a folder with a variable? Hello, when saying: create folder C:/Temp/foo -- it works like expected when saying: put C:/Temp/foo into myFolder create folder myFolder -- nothing happens I even tried it with: put C:/Temp/foo into myFolder create folder merge(quote myFolder quote) -- nothing happens any idea, what I a missing is appreciated Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: faxing from RR
I think that typically, computer fax solutions operate link a print-driver, so they are independent of the application. The user simply choses the Fax as the output device (after it has been configured) and then one prints as usual. Mikey wrote: Do we have a solution for sending faxes from RR? Mac or Windows platform, please, or both. -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recording sounds -- delay in starting?
Bummer. At least things run a bit better on Visa, but I'm still experiencing a major slowdown on XP. I guess I'll put it in bugzilla. Trevor DeVore wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Can the Advanced QT external be used to record without this delay? Peter, There are no recording functions built into the EnhancedQT external. -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Recording sounds -- delay in starting?
Is there any other way to record sounds in Revolution, other than *record sound file /filepath/*? Record sound file with Rev 2.8.1 on my Windows XP takes 2-3 seconds to start recording, which seems unacceptable. Is there any faster way to record a sound? Stopping recording also takes about 2 seconds, which seems a bit much. The program I'm replacing with my Rev app records and plays back almost instantaneously. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recording sounds -- delay in starting?
Hi Mark, This is the script I'm using: on RecordWord set cursor to watch disable button Record put the milliseconds into tStart record sound file compare.wav put (the milliseconds - tStart) ms into field Record set the cursor to arrow enable button Stop end RecordWord field Record shows anywhere from 2000 ms to 3800 ms. I wish I could get rid of the delay :). I haven't tried it on the Mac yet (or on an earlier version of Rev). I have QT 7.2.0 installed. Is there any way to record without using QT? I tried settting dontUseQT to true and then my standalone doesn't record anything. Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Peter, I don't have this problem with 2.8.1 on Mac OS X and 2.7.x on Windows. In fact, I wish I could make it start recording 1 second after executing the record command. I haven't tried recording with 2.8.1 on Windows yet. Is it possible that your scripts are preventing Revolution from recording immediately? Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http;//www.salery.com Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 7-aug-2007, om 22:53 heeft Peter T. Evensen het volgende geschreven: Is there any other way to record sounds in Revolution, other than *record sound file /filepath/*? Record sound file with Rev 2.8.1 on my Windows XP takes 2-3 seconds to start recording, which seems unacceptable. Is there any faster way to record a sound? Stopping recording also takes about 2 seconds, which seems a bit much. The program I'm replacing with my Rev app records and plays back almost instantaneously. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recording sounds -- delay in starting?
My application is an adult remedial education title that lets the person (optionally) record their reading of a word and then compare it with the pre-recorded voice. It would be nice if they could just click the button and record. Some of my Authorware applications use the Audio Xtra to do recording, and that does not suffer from this 2-3 second delay. Can the Advanced QT external be used to record without this delay? Stephen Barncard wrote: I guess it's the buffer starting up first before recording. It would have to be constantly running for it to be able to start instantly. Some dedicated audio apps can 'pre listen' the audio stream constantly and avoid missed cues. Rev audio is not that sophisticated. Buffer latency would be a nice property to have. The delay is a bit annoying. I made a stack that uses a prompt for the voice over reader to wait until it turns red and record for a cue. It works quite well. Let the app cue you when to transfer or speak, not the other way around. Is there any other way to record sounds in Revolution, other than *record sound file /filepath/*? Record sound file with Rev 2.8.1 on my Windows XP takes 2-3 seconds to start recording, which seems unacceptable. Is there any faster way to record a sound? Stopping recording also takes about 2 seconds, which seems a bit much. The program I'm replacing with my Rev app records and plays back almost instantaneously. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Recording sounds -- delay in starting?
I have set the recordFormat to wave and that doesn't change anything. recordRate is 22.05, recordSampleSize is 8, recordCompression is already raw. I still get the 2-3 second delay before it starts recording. Sometimes it takes a long time to stop recording. One test, it took a minute. I have no idea why. I haven't tried any other Windows machines yet, but that is next on my list. Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Peter, Two things. have you set the recordFormat to wave? You are recording into a wav file, but I don't see a command to set the recordFormat to wave. You could try to fiddle with the recordRate, recordSampleSize and recordCompression. My guess is that setting the recordCompression to raw and the recordSampleSize to a small number will cause the smallest delay. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http;//www.salery.com Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 7-aug-2007, om 23:14 heeft Peter T. Evensen het volgende geschreven: Hi Mark, This is the script I'm using: on RecordWord set cursor to watch disable button Record put the milliseconds into tStart record sound file compare.wav put (the milliseconds - tStart) ms into field Record set the cursor to arrow enable button Stop end RecordWord field Record shows anywhere from 2000 ms to 3800 ms. I wish I could get rid of the delay :). I haven't tried it on the Mac yet (or on an earlier version of Rev). I have QT 7.2.0 installed. Is there any way to record without using QT? I tried settting dontUseQT to true and then my standalone doesn't record anything. Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Peter, I don't have this problem with 2.8.1 on Mac OS X and 2.7.x on Windows. In fact, I wish I could make it start recording 1 second after executing the record command. I haven't tried recording with 2.8.1 on Windows yet. Is it possible that your scripts are preventing Revolution from recording immediately? Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http;//www.salery.com Quickly extract data from your HyperCard stacks with DIFfersifier. http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com Op 7-aug-2007, om 22:53 heeft Peter T. Evensen het volgende geschreven: Is there any other way to record sounds in Revolution, other than *record sound file /filepath/*? Record sound file with Rev 2.8.1 on my Windows XP takes 2-3 seconds to start recording, which seems unacceptable. Is there any faster way to record a sound? Stopping recording also takes about 2 seconds, which seems a bit much. The program I'm replacing with my Rev app records and plays back almost instantaneously. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Peter T. Evensen Juice Plus+ Independent Distributor 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Runtime Revolution is now Available through Programmer's Paradise
Stephen, The news is that many professional programmers (dare I say most) have never heard of Revolution/RunRev. Being in Programmer's Paradise dramatically elevates Revolution's visibility. The advantage is that a programmer who would never had heard of or tried Revolution might purchase or look for more information and join our ranks. Stephen Barncard wrote: Lynn, Why would I not rather deal directly with Runrev, and have another chance to chat with the lovely Heather than to use Programmer's paradise? They don't even offer PayPal. Using Runrev's overseas based payment system is always a chore... just pondering... Runtime Revolution, the leading cross-platform development environment for Windows, Linux and MacOS X is now available through Programmer's Paradise. The software development tools reseller sells all versions of Runtime Revolution, from Revolution Media through Revolution Enterprise. Programmer's Paradise, a division of Wayside Technology focuses on pleasing technology professionals. If you're a software development manager, web builder, VAR, computer consultant, systems integrator, software engineer, tech support specialist - if you're looking for a reseller that offers a ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Why is play so much faster than using a player?
I have a game that plays a ticking sound as lights around the board of the screen light up in sequence, i.e., one lit light moves around the border of the screen. *play click.mp3* plays much quicker than setting up a Player and doing a *start player Click * Anyone know why? It would seem to me that using a player would be faster (the sound file could be loaded in memory, etc). You can see this in the message box by creating a player and typing 'start player Player' and hitting return multiple times, vs. typing in 'play sound.mp3' and hitting enter. This is with Revoltuion 2.8.1 Build 471 Peter Evensen www.PetersRoadtoHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?
It shouldn't be that hard. The code should be the same, just a different database of words. I would assume they put more frequently used words first. Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Well, what Apple has already done is pretty extraordinary; but handling the anticipation/substitution/completion factor to the keyboard selections with all of the various languages has got to be much harder by a factor of really huge. I wish them luck. I think I'd been inclined to take an easier path, but when has Apple ever done that? (smile) Joe Wilkins On Jul 1, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:08:22 -0700, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: This is going to make the keyboard highly english dependent, I should think. I haven't even been concerned with localizing my projects, but for the iPhone to have truly universal appeal that is probably a must concern for its software. I don't know about that... I would think that the keyboard and internal lookup dictionary would be different based on the targeted country... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I-beam Artifact bug?
Do you mean the flashing insertion bar gets stuck in the field when you set locktext to true? This is already bug #4840 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4840 You can work around it by adding a *type tab* before you set the locktext to true. This defocusses the text filed (I couldn't figure out any other way that worked reliably), and removes the insertion point. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else noticed an I-beam artifact when locking a field? Try this in a field on Win32... on mouseLeave set the locktext of me to true end mouseLeave on mouseEnter set the locktext of me to false end mouseEnter Not affected on OSX. /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.8.1 on Mac OS X 10.0
In looking at Apple's site, there appears to be no free update/upgrade from 10.0.x to 10.1.0, which is needed for all the 10.1.x updates. Derek Bump wrote: Shari wrote: Maybe you can upgrade to 10.2.8 for free? Have you tried Apple's download site for older OS's? http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/index11.html I looked at this page, but I'm still a bit confused about what you are saying. Does Apple offer actual 10.x upgrades at a lower cost on their site? As far as I know, the farthest I can upgrade to is 10.0.4, which I have done, or am I wrong in thinking this? Derek Bump Dreamscape Software Compress photos easily with JPEGCompress www.dreamscapesoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Don't you just wish Rev would do this?
Microsoft seems to be doing very well without open-sourcing its development tools. I'm not sure what open-sourcing has to do with scaling. Are you talking about user-base or scalability of Revolution itself? I think open source is almost a fad/buzzword; I'm not sure how important it really is when it comes right down to it. In order for open source to be of any use, it needs an active developer community that is maintaining and enhancing the code (at that without any economic incentive). OpenDarwin didn't work out, would OpenRevolution? How many of you want to muck about in the Revolution engine and freely contribute enhancements (and make sure those enhancements work across Mac, Linux, and Windows in all the different flavors)? Right now we have a team of dedicated developers working on improving and enhancing Revolution, developers who have a big economic stake in the success of the product. Peter Alcibiades wrote: David writes: Both are much much harder in my environment with a pure closed source solution - and it is getting harder. The issue really is powerlessness, not just against the supplier, but against events beyond the control of the supplier. Hypercard showed one form of this very clearly. You can get orphaned as a user, no matter how much goodwill and committment the supplier has. The problem is that the number of attractive open source alternatives of which this is not true is multiplying all the time. It may be very hard to make money by open sourcing your bread and butter, but it also may be very hard to get your product to the scale it needs to be and can be, while keeping it closed, so its not risk free either way. If you were consulting to Rev, you'd say this was one that had to be looked at very carefully. But my goodness, it would be a bet the company kind of decision. Good luck, if you are thinking about it. Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac UB standalones and OS versions
I thought altBrowser was never supported on 10.2.8, only on 10.3 and later. Microsoft did change things with the Speech API. Remember how SAPI 4 and SAPI 5 weren't compatible? You had to pick which DLL you ran for Rev. Chipp Walters wrote: On 6/4/07, Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: never believing in my worst of dreams that there would be significant differences between the various OSX releases. Was I ever dumb! Yep. One of the biggest hassles we had with altBrowser on Mac was how to keep it working on older OSX versions, as WebKit, which altBrowser for Mac was built upon, kept changing from version to version, even dot release to dot release. I'm pretty sure we had a different version of altBrowser for OSX 10.2.8 than for OSX 10.3 because there was no way around it. Of course Microsoft couldn't get away with the number of changes and incompatibilities as their developer user base would not put up with it. Apple has a much smaller group who are used to wholesale changes in source code and compatibilties over the years. While we compatibility rev'd altBrowser on Mac over and over again, we rarely (if ever) did the same on PC's. Not to say that aren't slew of other probls with Windows (yep, just try installing a simple screen capture app with 20Mb of .Net 2.0 runtimes!). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Suggestion
Everything that requires a .dll external, like speech, XML, etc. Hershel Fisch wrote: On 6/4/07 5:43 PM, Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/4/07 5:21 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rev prefix helps identify calls that are not natively supported by the engine, requiring additional libraries and/or externals. And by now, why isn't it built in direct into the engine? Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revSpeak with 2.8.1
What version of Windows are you running? What version of TTS on Windows? Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, changed the Speech API between 4 and 5. Revolution currently defaults to version 5. If you don't have version 5 installed, you need to replace revspeech.dll with revspeechsapi4.dll (renamed to revspeech.dll), or upgrade to TTS version 5. revspeechsapi4.dll can be found in Runtime\Windows\x86-32\Externals in version prior to 2.8.1. Jim Sims wrote: I just made a very simple standalone to test revSpeak on WIndows (Same stack tested and works fine on OS X). I made sure it included the revspeech.dll option when building the standalone, it was in the Externals folder. Has two buttons... on mouseUp revSpeak Hello world end mouseUp another that stops speech unloads. This WIndows machine works with revspeak on Rev 2.6.1 Does not work with Rev 2.8.1 Does anyone have a Rev 2.8.1 WIndows standalone that does revSpeak? Maybe this is a new bug? Jim Sims Custom Software Development www.EZPZapps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Popping up stacks
I don't believe you can specify a position for a modal dialog (without using tricks like specifying a larger window size and a windowshape). Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Richard, Why don't you use a modal dialog for this? You can script it so your code accesses it 'in process' for a handler, which makes your job pretty easy. Check out: Creating a reusable dialog box at http://www.altuit.com/webs/revCentral/Number7/default.htm for a quicky type solution which shows an 'in process' use of a modal dialog. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: printing two card same page?
You can set the printGutters to specify how to arrange the two cards. You need then do (warning, untested Revolution script): *open printing (with dialog) print card 1 print card 2 close printing* You could also use *open printing print card 1 into /pageRect/ print card 2 into /pageRect/ close printing* instead of using the printGutter to specify the exact rectangle into which to print each card. Robert Mann wrote: I am trying to get two card printed on the same page one on top of page one on bottom of page each in a rectangle 468,288 6.5 x4 I can get each card printed out on own page but not able to figure out how to print both on same page? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I make the top stack ignore the others?
Won't *modal stack whatever* pause the current script and wait for the modal dialog to be dismissed? I believe that is how it works, so you don't need the global property and wait listed below. Ian Wood wrote: On 21 May 2007, at 13:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to open a smaller sized stack on top of a larger one. This stack needs to be dominant so that clicks to the stacks showing underneath are ignored. Is there a way to accomplish this? modal stack whatever With that in mind, I also need to know how to make a script delay its execution for the input to this custom dialog box. I'd set a global or a custom property to false in the script, set it to true in the modal stack, and then use the form: wait until gNameoftheprop is true with messages in the delayed script. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ctrl-y does a paste on Mac?
Why does ctrl-y do a paste on Mac OS X? It appears pasteKey is NOT sent, but the system does a paste just the same. Does anyone else see this? This seems like a bug to me. Thanks! Peter Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: special folders
Hello Sadhu, The user folder is a common place for applications to install files. Users should have read/write access to it. That may not be true for the rest of the local hard drive. Schools, in particular, like to lock things down. Using the user's application data folder lets administrators limit rights to the rest of the drive. On the Mac, certain things are expected to go to certain places, like preferences. The special folders allow you to get that folder. In some cases, the folder might be on a network drive, allowing a person to log into any Mac and have all there settings. I hope this helps. Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote: Greetings, After reading the post below about the admin issues possible with specialFolderPath, I'd like to hear anyone expound on the justification for the use of 'special folders', if we have any pontiffs out there who advocate it. Must be a good reason for it, yes? Anyone care to enlighten me? It's basically curiosity so feel free to ignore me also. For example, in our case, we are providing a download of an executable for windows users which installs as normal in the program files directory. (Mac version, not sure where it goes). However, a separate stack that can be written to is obscurely (some might say) squirreled away in a special folder - which turns out to be different on different versions of windoz. For example, its under all users/application data (or something like that) on XP home and pro, and something like c:/ProgramData on Vista basic (at least mine). The mac I'm not sure. Our code has a case statement to detect the type of OS and pick the right special folder. Why wouldn't we just put this stack in the same folder where we install the executable? Wise ones, tell all! Mahalo Sadhu Using the altsplash auto-load architecture, I have one user for whom the loader hangs. His specialFolderPath(35) returns as C:/Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data but he says he has no such folder, which leads me guess is that it is hidden and that its invisibility is preventing the write to or the read from the directory. Yup. It's real and it is hidden - however if the user does not have Admin rights he can't write there. He needs to write to a folder belonging to him. C:/Documents and Settings/Your Users Name/Application Data. Is there something special I must do to make this directory usable if hidden? You could instruct the user to elevate himself to an admin - while that will work it may also be against any policies they are subject to and therefore rendering security useless which probably is not a good idea. Scott Kane Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending. -- Maria Robinson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: special folders
I don't think even 1 is true. It is possible for administrators to lock even that folder. If they can download a file to a particular folder, that would indicate it is writable. I assume that the autoloader would need to stick around. There are software packages that lock everything down and roll things back to a starting state when a user logs out (with the option of preserving some folders/files). Mark E. Powell wrote: Two follow-ups... -1- Is it then an absolute that specialFolderPath(26) is writeable on Windows, regardless of personal vs. corporate configuration? Even if the user has 'hide system folders' on? -2- Does the ability to download a file to a particular folder not also mean that that folder is writeable? For example, in the two-part autoloader architecture, if the user places the loader is put into folder x, is it not guaranteed that I can write the operational stack to that same folder? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Close field anomaly
It works for me: If you have on closeField if the text of me is not a number then select the text of me beep end if end closeField in the handler for the field, you get a beep and the text is selected. If you try to select the second field, it will still beep. Since the select the text of me forces the closeField to be called the next time you try to move to another field, the field is validated again. If it weren't, you could click the second field twice and move on (the first click would call closeField, which would beep and select the text; then if you didn't change [i.e., correct] the field, in theory closeField wouldn't be called, so the incorrect value would be accepted). Chipp Walters wrote: Create a new stack with two fields. Set the script of the first fld to: on closeField beep select the text of me end closeField Now, enter text into fld 1 and try and click to fld 2. Can't. Any idea why? -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Close field anomaly
Actually, this isn't a bug. If select the text of medidn't cause closeField to be sent again, the user could then get out of an invalid field by clicking twice: once to select it, and then, since the field didn't change, closeField wouldn't be called, and the user could move own, leaving an invalid value. Éric Miclo wrote: Yes, and removing select the text of me enables the fact that on the second try you can click in another field. So I suspect that selecting text inside a field is considered as a change, something that is not true. For me it is definitively a bug. Best, ÉrIC Le 1 mai 07 à 04:31, Chipp Walters a écrit : On 4/30/07, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a guess, I'd think it's because when you click in fld 2, you close fld1, selecting it's text (re-opening it), thereby preventing you from selecting fld 2...ie. once fld 1 is selected, selecting anything else will cause fld 1 to be re-selected... Nope, I don't think so. Once fld 1 is selected, selecting anything else shouldn't cause another closeField message sent to fld 1. Remember, closeField is sent ONLY to a field where there has been a change. I can understand it flagging the first time, but after that I suppose the closeField has been reset, non? I'm trying to create a validation script which fires when the field is closed. Based upon this bug and the one I just mentioned on this list, I'm not sure how to accommodate field validation anymore-- using the closeField message. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- My NeXT computer will Be a Mac too! -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: is a date broke?
The beta of 2.8.1 returns false. Chipp Walters wrote: How come when you put in the msg box: put 01/01/01 are you kidding me is a date you get true? Am I missing something? How do you validate a date entry? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: is a date broke?
Should * 01-01-01 is a date* return true? Chipp Walters wrote: How come when you put in the msg box: put 01/01/01 are you kidding me is a date you get true? Am I missing something? How do you validate a date entry? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another of those slightly unpleasant messages about documentation
Actually right-click is found in the documentation for 2.8.1: Index for right-click as a string in the dictionary 1. XBrowser_Set command 2. XBrowser_Get function 3. clickChar function 4. clickCharChunk function 5. clickChunk function 6. clickField function 7. clickLine function 8. clickText function 9. lockText property 10. popup command If you search for right button or left button, the mouseUp message comes up, which talks about detecting which button is pressed: Index for right button as a string in the dictionary 1. click command 2. menuMouseButton property 3. mouse function 4. mouseDoubleDown message 5. mouseDoubleUp message 6. mouseDown message 7. mouseDownInBackdrop message 8. mouseRelease message 9. mouseStillDown message 10. mouseUp message 11. mouseUpInBackdrop message Richmond Mathewson wrote: neither right-click or left-click are mentioned in the RR documentation (2.8 Beta build 400) cough, cough, cough . . . Richmond, being a pedestrian type of fellow, went looking for details about mouse button detection in the RR documentation. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Maybe I'm confused
I have a stack that goes back to the first card for the second card. I set a visual effect, but the effect doesn't fire. The reason the effect doesn't work is that the closeCard hander for second card (the card I'm leaving does a lock screen and unlock screen). Should that nullify the visual effect? Is this a bug? If I do a lock screen and unlock screen with visual effect dissolve fast around my go to previous card, the effect doesn't work either. Thanks! Peter Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock/unlock in closeCard short-circuits a visual effect
Sorry for the bad subject line, I regretted after I hit send. I tried visual effect dissolve slow. The effect didn't work: it takes longer for the previous card to appear (like it is doing the dissolve) but the card appears right away. I have a sample stack that demonstrates the problem and does no other locks. Here's the go to previous button script: on mouseUp visual effect dissolve fast go to previous end mouseUp Here's the closeCard handler on that card: on closeCard lock screen -- do nothing else unlock screen end closeCard It seems the lock and unlock screen here short-circuit the visual effect. If I replace the mouseUp above with on mouseUp lock screen go to previous unlock screen with visual effect dissolve fast end mouseUp Everything works in my test stack. Should the two work differently? Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Peter, Have you tried visual effect dissolve slow? Also, if you lock the screen twice, only the second unlock screen command will show any effects. If you unlock the screen only once, Rev will unlock thescren by itself, after all handlers have finished running. You might want to check whether the screen is already locked before you issue the lock screen command. I think I can kind of understand that you're confused, but would you mind putting a meaningful header in the subject line next time, please? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 26-apr-2007, om 21:24 heeft Peter T. Evensen het volgende geschreven: I have a stack that goes back to the first card for the second card. I set a visual effect, but the effect doesn't fire. The reason the effect doesn't work is that the closeCard hander for second card (the card I'm leaving does a lock screen and unlock screen). Should that nullify the visual effect? Is this a bug? If I do a lock screen and unlock screen with visual effect dissolve fast around my go to previous card, the effect doesn't work either. Thanks! Peter Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lock/unlock in closeCard short-circuits a visual effect
Hi Mark, I can see what you are saying. That seems like unexpected behavior, though. It took me a while to figure out why it wasn't working. I guess it is best to avoid the visual effect command and always use the lock and unlock screen with visual effect... Thanks! Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Peter, You issue the visual effect command before locking the screen. Revolution goes to the previous card and executes the visual effect while the screen is locked, so you won't see anything. In this situation, your second mouseUp handler is the correct script. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 26-apr-2007, om 21:55 heeft Peter T. Evensen het volgende geschreven: Sorry for the bad subject line, I regretted after I hit send. I tried visual effect dissolve slow. The effect didn't work: it takes longer for the previous card to appear (like it is doing the dissolve) but the card appears right away. I have a sample stack that demonstrates the problem and does no other locks. Here's the go to previous button script: on mouseUp visual effect dissolve fast go to previous end mouseUp Here's the closeCard handler on that card: on closeCard lock screen -- do nothing else unlock screen end closeCard It seems the lock and unlock screen here short-circuit the visual effect. If I replace the mouseUp above with on mouseUp lock screen go to previous unlock screen with visual effect dissolve fast end mouseUp Everything works in my test stack. Should the two work differently? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cleaning up stack URLs
Could you do something like this? set the itemdelimiter to / repeat with i = 3 to the number of items in tURL put URLEncode(item i of tURL) into item i of tURL end repeat Martin Baxter wrote: Devin Asay wrote: I'm working on a stack that launches stacks from the web with 'go stack URL'. I know there are certain characters that are illegal or unsafe in URL strings. (See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1738) These include space, quote and a number of others. Most web browsers automatically escape these characters for you, so, e.g., a space is converted to '%20' before the browser sends the request to the server. I'm about to start writing a function that checks a potential stack URL for illegal and unsafe characters and converts them to escape sequences, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel if such a thing already exists. Am I right that there is no equivalent functionality built into Rev? I know about URLEncode(), of course, but that serves a different purpose--formatting strings for POSTing, rather than formatting strings for retrieving files from a server (a GET request?) Am I understanding this correctly? I think you are right Devin, unfortunately. Anyway, you can't give the whole url to urlencode as it will also encode the slashes and colons etc. etc. Looking at my php manual, I find php has 2 functions: urlencode() rawurlencode() and the difference is described as the treatment of space: + in urlencode, %20 in rawurlencode This is a surmise, but I think that RR urlencode is the same as php's identically named function. If so, a shortcut might be to replace the spaces yourself before applying urlencode() which should deal with any remaining problem characters something like (untested) put http://www.whatever.com/; into tdomainpart put exciting content/big file.html into tpath replace space with %20 in tpath set itemdelimiter to / put empty into t_assemble repeat with i = 1 to the number of items in tpath put urlencode(item i of tpath) into item i of tencodedpath end repeat put tdomainpart tencodedpart into tencodedurl A related issue is, are there characters that are disallowed as filenames for rev stackfiles? I can't find any such list anywhere. I suppose this would be determined by the host OS? That's what I would expect. I would avoid naming a rev stack beginning with a tilde though, because of the temp file made when saving. Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Lumen - Game Made In Revolution
The only complaint I have is that colorblind people can't play the game. It is always a good idea to use a secondary method (like pattern/texture) to distinguish object, and not just color. Everything I've seen said that about 10% of men are colorblind. At 01:36 PM 4/17/2007, you wrote: Hello, Brent Anderson and I have decided to start a small company that offers consultation services. To kick of the business and draw people to the site we have made game called Lumen. Lumen is a puzzle game in which the user must activate checkpoints placed on the board by coloring a laser beam and using mirrors to bounce it around the board. Although the objective is simple, the puzzles can be quite a challenge! Lumen is available for Mac OS X (Universal Binary) and Windows. You can download Lumen at: www.fieryferret.com/lumen/lumen.html . Go ahead and try it out, then spread the word! Make sure to leave feedback so we can continue to improve Lumen. Oh, I almost forgot. Lumen is absolutely FREE! Best Wishes, Bridger Maxwell Fiery Ferret ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
More non-European text printing problems
This happens on Windows XP. I have a field that contains the following (for the htmlText): pfont face=Tahoma lang=ru#1072;#1085;#1075;#1083;#1080;#1095;#1072;#1085;#1082;#1072;/font/p This field prints out fine. However, if I bold (or underline) any character, I get a large space before the bolded character and a space after and the line spacing gets completely mangled: pfont face=Tahoma lang=ru#1072;#1085;#1075;#1083;#1080;#1095;b#1072;/b#1085;#1082;#1072;/font/p something like anglic a nka instead of anglicanka On the Mac, I'm still getting just a black box where the text should be, rather than the actual text. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More non-European text printing problems
Devin, Yes, it looks fine on screen. It just prints out wonky (there's a word I wish we had in American English). Thanks for verifying the bug. Glad it isn't just me. I did enter them in the quality center. #4669 and #4670. At 12:07 PM 4/12/2007, you wrote: On Apr 12, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: This happens on Windows XP. I have a field that contains the following (for the htmlText): pfont face=Tahoma lang=ru#1072;#1085;#1075;#1083;#1080;#1095;#1072;#1085;#10 82;#1072;/font/p This field prints out fine. However, if I bold (or underline) any character, I get a large space before the bolded character and a space after and the line spacing gets completely mangled: pfont face=Tahoma lang=ru#1072;#1085;#1075;#1083;#1080;#1095;b#1072;/ b#1085;#1082;#1072;/font/p something like anglic a nka instead of anglicanka On the Mac, I'm still getting just a black box where the text should be, rather than the actual text. Peter, you're talking just about the printout, right? Because it's fine on screen on both OS X and XP. When printing using revPrintField, on OS X I see the same black rectangle in the place of the text, and on XP I see the same large space you're seeing. Looks like a bug. Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Changing the Application menu name on OS X
Is there any way to change the default application menu name on Mac OS X. I have a stack that changes it's name (i.e., title bar name) depending on a configuration file. The default application menu in the upper left (next to the apple), however, doesn't change. Is there some way to change menu name? Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Japanese text
Now with my final stack it isn't printing at all on the Mac. I'm giving up and printing on Windows :(. I am using 2.8.0. At 10:18 AM 3/14/2007, you wrote: The odd this is, I discovered it I printed it once, I got the black bars. If I tried printing a second time, the Japanese printed fine. Very strange. I can't wait for more Unicode in Rev. At 08:31 PM 3/13/2007, you wrote: It appears that the text that I was printing had the font set to Font Name,Japanese instead of Font Name,UTF8. Peter, my guess is that there is a bug in Revolution that affects printing Japanese fonts. Best regards, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 14-mrt-2007, om 1:22 heeft Mark Schonewille het volgende geschreven: Hi Peter, It is not your machine! I was trying to work around a unicode bug in Revolution which causes Rev to crash. I can now avoid the crash, but get black bars instead. Mark Op 13-mrt-2007, om 21:35 heeft Peter T. Evensen het volgende geschreven: Evidently it is just my Mac. I wonder what is up with my machine; I even rebooted and everything. I will have to try it on some other Macs here to see if I get the same thing. Thanks, everyone, for all your help. (If anyone has any suggestions on what I should look at on my Mac...) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Japanese text
The odd this is, I discovered it I printed it once, I got the black bars. If I tried printing a second time, the Japanese printed fine. Very strange. I can't wait for more Unicode in Rev. At 08:31 PM 3/13/2007, you wrote: It appears that the text that I was printing had the font set to Font Name,Japanese instead of Font Name,UTF8. Peter, my guess is that there is a bug in Revolution that affects printing Japanese fonts. Best regards, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 14-mrt-2007, om 1:22 heeft Mark Schonewille het volgende geschreven: Hi Peter, It is not your machine! I was trying to work around a unicode bug in Revolution which causes Rev to crash. I can now avoid the crash, but get black bars instead. Mark Op 13-mrt-2007, om 21:35 heeft Peter T. Evensen het volgende geschreven: Evidently it is just my Mac. I wonder what is up with my machine; I even rebooted and everything. I will have to try it on some other Macs here to see if I get the same thing. Thanks, everyone, for all your help. (If anyone has any suggestions on what I should look at on my Mac...) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows Vista Free!
This discussion brought to mind: http://homepage.mac.com/mercutio2/MacHouse/page1/page1.html http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/915.gif At 03:15 PM 3/14/2007, you wrote: Parallels does support Vista, however M$'s EULA restricts virtualizing to only the Business and Ultimate versions. Ah, the wonders of confusing software version structures. Isn't it amazing that pretty much every other vendor (At least, anyone worth speaking of) offers one version of their Operating System? That doesn't include Server Versions, of course, but anyone interested in actually buying a computer for day to day use isn't going to look at that as an option, are they? On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Gosh! Wow! Jolly-Hockey-Sticks! And, Windows Vista comes with lots of hidden extras that crop up just when you need them; they're called Viruses, Torojans, Malware and Spyware. For some 'funny' reason none of my Pentium IIIs 700 MHz warhorses can cope with Windows Vista - and, oddly enough, that doesn't matter because they do a wonderful job running Ubuntu. Guess I'll just stick with my Dear old (i.e. 4 years) G4 Dual Mirror Door Wind-Tunnel (Hey, now that's a groovy moniker for a computer), the PPC Mac-Mini (I had to move quickly!) and the warhorses - minimal maintenance both in terms of time and money. When Apple stop support for PPC I will, either continue with the last PPC version of the Mac OS or swap over to a PPC version of Linux. Here, in Bulgaria, folks are either sticking with their pirate versions of Win 98, 2000, 2003 or XP, or (when the police start breathing down their necks) stumping up the $$$ for a legal version fo XP. Nobody, but nobody, has the money to buy a PC capable of coping with the high demands of Vista. A very few have changed over to Linux; no doubt more will. Please do not think I am belittling Runtime Revolution (the company); but I am belittling the baby that spent far too long in the womb and now suffers from all the faults of its ancestors, plus a few more. Certainly, were I the owner of an Intel Mac (which I suppose I will become one of these days - not for a while though) I would be interested in the Parallels offer. As it is at the moment I am fairly well off with the last Connectix version of Virtual PC running Win98. I believe that PARALLELS WILL NOT RUN VISTA although I would not swear to it. While I'm on a rant I will sound off about N***le breakfast cereals: The other day I bought a box of 'chocolate balls' (I can't remember what they are called) that my children eat to guarantee hyper-activity, and noticed it came with a CD computer-game which would only function on Windows (3 hours later, puffing and blowing, I got it running on WINE!) Luckily my children are as daft as their father so did not start the inevitable I wanna Windows box whine - but the manipulative intent of this kind of freebie is clear to anybody but the Epsilon semi-morons. Its been a long day and its my time of the month (i.e. when I grow hairs on the palms of my hands). . . :) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Putting mixed text into a field (Japanese + English)
I was having trouble putting mixed text into a field, that is, a string of Japanese text followed by a string of regular 8-bit text. It works if I copy and paste, but if I use put, it either loses the Japanese script or converts the 8-bit into Kanji. I tried uniEncode and setting the unicodeText of the field, and that didn't work. Any suggestions? I wound up doing a copy and paste, which isn't the optimal, but it works. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Japanese text
If I have non-Japanese text in the field, that text prints fine. If I bring the stack over to Windows and print, it prints out (although some of my fields wouldn't show the Japanese text on Windows, and I couldn't figure out why. I finally duplicated the field that did work and the text showed up and printed OK on Windows). I'm on 10.4.8 as well. If you would like, I could send you my stack to see if it works on your machine (just print the first card). At 04:56 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote: Evensen-san, print this cd from the topLeft of fld 1 to the bottomRight of fld 1 I am using Revolution 2.8, MacOSX 10.4.8. It works here. Did you try English? -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On Mar 12, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Hello Kojima-san I tried what you wrote and it doesn't work here. I just get a solid black bar where my text is. This happens if I do a Print This Card from the ID and click Preview, so it isn't a printer issue. I am using Revolution 2.8.0. I haven't tried another version of Revolution yet. Any other ideas? At 02:15 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote: Peter, I think you cannot print Japanese text field. But it works. print this cd from the topLeft of fld 1 to the bottomRight of fld 1 -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On Mar 12, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Hopefully I am overlooking something simple. I have a card with Japanese text. When I print it, the text is replaced with a black bar. This is on a Mac, printing to an HP LJ4050. I set the textFont of the field to Osaka,Japanese. I set the formatForPrinting to true. I've print Japanese on this printer, from this Mac in Word. Any ideas? Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Japanese text
I'm not that desperate. What I am doing is making a board game and trying print out cards on card-stock. It seems much easier for me to put the contents in a text file and then write a Revolution program to read the content, build the cards in a stack, and then print out the cards. This looks like it will work a lot better than trying to do the cards in Word or something. At 05:23 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote: Hey, if you're desperate, screenshot the field, and put a picture of the field on top of the actual field, then print. Brad Sampson Christa McAuliffe Space Education Center ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Japanese text
Evidently it is just my Mac. I wonder what is up with my machine; I even rebooted and everything. I will have to try it on some other Macs here to see if I get the same thing. Thanks, everyone, for all your help. (If anyone has any suggestions on what I should look at on my Mac...) At 02:41 PM 3/13/2007, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Peter and others, I have just tried to print Peter's stack, by executing open printing with dialog; print this cd; close printing from the message box. This appeared to work fine in Rev 2.8-gm-3. Best regards, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 13-mrt-2007, om 18:37 heeft Mark Schonewille het volgende geschreven: Hi Peter, I am currently trying to print a field with unicodetext, too. Just like you, I am using 10.4.8. If I print a field to PDF, it becomes binary text. I wonder if this is a bug or me. Feel free to send me the stack. Maybe we can help each other or at least find out what is going wrong. Best, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Printing Japanese text
Hopefully I am overlooking something simple. I have a card with Japanese text. When I print it, the text is replaced with a black bar. This is on a Mac, printing to an HP LJ4050. I set the textFont of the field to Osaka,Japanese. I set the formatForPrinting to true. I've print Japanese on this printer, from this Mac in Word. Any ideas? Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Japanese text
Hello Kojima-san I tried what you wrote and it doesn't work here. I just get a solid black bar where my text is. This happens if I do a Print This Card from the ID and click Preview, so it isn't a printer issue. I am using Revolution 2.8.0. I haven't tried another version of Revolution yet. Any other ideas? At 02:15 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote: Peter, I think you cannot print Japanese text field. But it works. print this cd from the topLeft of fld 1 to the bottomRight of fld 1 -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On Mar 12, 2007, at 2:51 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Hopefully I am overlooking something simple. I have a card with Japanese text. When I print it, the text is replaced with a black bar. This is on a Mac, printing to an HP LJ4050. I set the textFont of the field to Osaka,Japanese. I set the formatForPrinting to true. I've print Japanese on this printer, from this Mac in Word. Any ideas? Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pendingmessages
One problem here is that any parameters sent with the message will be lost, since pendingMessages does not contain parameter information. At 03:02 PM 3/2/2007, you wrote: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:14:08 -0700, Richard Miller wrote: Will lock messages halt pending messages from occurring until an unlock messages command is sent? I need to have all pending messages that relate to file transfers to wait until a foreground file transfer is complete. I'm thinking that lock messages will do that. If not, is there another way? I don't think that lock messages will affect pending messages. Here's an approach I've used that works pretty well, so long as you don't have really complex messaging needs: on PausePending pMsg global gPendingMessages put the pendingMessages into tPending if (pMsg ) and (pMsg all) then filter tPending with *, pMsg ,* put tPending into gPendingMessages repeat for each line tMsg in tPending cancel item 1 of tMsg end repeat end PausePending on ResumePending pMsg global gPendingMessages put gPendingMessages into tPending if (pMsg ) and (pMsg all) then filter tPending with *, pMsg ,* filter gPendingMessages without *, pMsg ,* else delete global gPendingMessages end if -- Resend the messages repeat for each line tLine in tPending put item 3 of tLine into tCmd put item 4 of tLine into tTarget do send quote tCmd quote to tTarget end repeat end ResumePending HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pendingmessages
What I did was make a function that would cache a parameter for a message. When I suspended messages, I calculated the renaming time, and when I resumed the messages, I used that as an offset from the current time to resend the messages, along with the parameter that I cached, if any, based on the message name. At 05:01 PM 3/2/2007, Ken Ray wrote: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:55:49 -0800, Brian Yennie wrote: Ken, Very clever... one question: how do you deal with the actual timing of those messages, or do these scripts assume that everything pending should be processed ASAP? Or am I confused (entirely possible!)? It assumes that everything pending should be processed immediately on ResumePending. Although it wouldn't be too hard to maintain some metadata for the send in interval, and subtract the actual amount of time elapsed just before pausing from that interval so that on Resume it would wait the remaining time and then execute... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CDATA
I don't think Rev's XML library properly supports CDATA. This is a problem I ran into, so I did what Andre suggested, and replaced and with something else I wouldn't use and then replaced them when I read the node. At 01:13 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote: Hey, Here I am on the usergroup again needing even more help on XML. I am trying to use CDATA to store HTML-formatted text inside a node, but I am not having much luck. The text starts out looking like this: pHey! 20857/p pHow are you?/p Then I wrap it in the CDATA tag: ![CDATA[ pHey! 20857/p pHow are you?/p ]] Then I store it in the XML. It looks like this in the XML: ![CDATA[ pHey!/p pHow are you?/p ]] Then upon retrieving it, I only get the first line. In this case: Hey! In an earlier post on this Ken Ray said: Yes, it is AFAIK - if you have *just* CDATA, you should be able to read it, but if you have both text contents of a node AND CDATA, the CDATA is not read. It's odd that it works on Windows, though, and not Mac since I thought it used the same library code under the hood. I am running OS X and plan to release for OS X, so there is a bug, but because I am not storing anything else inside the CDATA text, I didn't think it would affect me. Thanks again for all the help you guys have given me throughout my struggle with XML. TTFN Bridger Maxwell Christa McAuliffe Space Education Center ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone got one of these?
I use a field to strip my HTML. I just put it in the htmlText of a hidden
field and then get the text of that filed and all HTML tags are
conveniently gone...
That doesn't help Chipp, but is a short two-liner replacement for Ken's
algorithm.
At 01:31 PM 1/26/2007, you wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:56:36 -0600, Chipp Walters wrote:
function stripAllTagsBut pHtml,pTagsList
-- pTagsList IS A LIST OF TAGS NOT TO EXCLUDE FROM PARSING
-- EX. LINE 1 OF pTagsList CAN BE img AND LINE 2 CAN BE b, etc..
It's used to strip all tags from HTML but those in the pTagsList parameter.
IOW, it can be used to grab the HTML of a page, and strip everything
but the
img tags.
I'm starting to write it, but thought I'd ask-- just in case.
Closest thing I have is:
function stsStripHTML what
put replaceText(what,(?si)script.*?/script,) into what
put replaceText(what,(?si)style.*?/style,) into what
put replaceText(what,.*?,) into what
put replaceText(what,tab,) into what
put replaceText(what,CR {3,},) into what
return what
end stsStripHTML
But this strips all tags...
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Nested tab buttons on XP
Has anyone noticed this? I have a tab button that contains a tab button. If I point to tab #2 on the main tab button, tab #2 on the sub tab button hilights as well. Is this the way it is supposed to work? Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone
This fact kills it for me (in addition to being Cingular-only). I don't consider it a true smart phone if you can't have 3rd party apps. I guess I'll be sticking with my Treo. At 06:14 PM 1/11/2007, you wrote: All- The iPhone as a not.for.development.get.your.hands.off device: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007/gizmodo-iphone-hands-on-part-deux-why-isnt-it-white-and-other-questions-227575.php ...and just out of curiosity, can anyone remember Apple announcing a product six months before the announced shipping date? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OMG!!!! Steve Jobs is launching the iPhone and it runs MacOS X.
Actually, Intel is saying it is NOT providing the processor and this article says it is Samsung: http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/10/6569 At 04:34 PM 1/9/2007, you wrote: I've got my fingers crossed but if Apple opens up the iPhone to apps other than widgets I will be in heaven. Especially if we can get access to the GPS data to determine where folks are. -- Trevor DeVore My guess is that there will have to be a special developer track at the WWDC to cover iPhone applications. Also the keyboardless capability is interesting in that Apple is probably using the iPhone to open up a whole new category of devices including larger handheld computers that do not have keyboards but have larger screens. Either way, developing in Rev is the way to go as opposed to using XCode. Oh yes, I did find out on an article that the iPhone runs on an unknown Intel processor. So that means that we can probably already generate applications for it. http://techdigest.tv/2007/01/apple_iphone_th_1.html Jesse ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ctrl-2 has stopped working
This doesn't appear to be a Revolution problem. I was wondering if anyone out there would have any idea why ctrl-2 would stop working. I though it was the new Revolution release, but I just discovered it doesn't work in 2.6.1, where I KNOW it used to. I used to all the time. I tried a different keyboard, I got rid of the AB switch. The only think I can think of is that I installed something that is grabbing that key combo for some unknow reaons. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
slide with multiples of x?
Is there a built-in way to create a slider that only stops at increments of x (e.g., of 20, from 0 to 100, so 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100)? Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: slide with multiples of x?
Hi Eric, Thanks for the pointer. The one key I was missing is scrollbarDrag. I didn't know about that message. I implemented my own scrollbar value indicator that I move.Here's what I wound up with in my script. I haven't tried this on the Mac yet. I don't like the hard-coded numbers; the might not work on the Mac. I'll have to think to see if I can come up with anything better. on mouseUp set the thumbposition of me to NearestThumbPos(the thumbposition of me) AdjustLabelPosition end mouseUp on scrollbarDrag lock screen AdjustLabelPosition unlock screen end scrollbarDrag function NearestThumbPos pPos put pPos div 20 into tNumTwenties put pPos mod 20 into tRemainder if tRemainder = 10 then add 1 to tNumTwenties end if return 20 * tNumTwenties end NearestThumbPos on AdjustLabelPosition put the thumbposition of me into tPos put NearestThumbPos(the thumbposition of me) into field Thumb Pos put (the width of me - 12) / the endValue of me into tPixelsPerValue put the left of me + 6 + tPixelsPerValue * tPos into tThumbLoc put the loc of field Thumb Pos into tFieldLoc put tThumbLoc into item 1 of tFieldLoc set the loc of field Thumb Pos to tFieldLoc end AdjustLabelPosition At 02:46 PM 12/5/2006, you wrote: Hi Peter, The How to Manage Snap to Scrollbars tutorial might help you: How to manage a slider snap-to behavior to make sure that the indicator lines up with the ticks especially on Mac OS X. You will access this tutorial through Tutorials Picker a free plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web. You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/. Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section. Le 5 déc. 06 à 21:43, Peter T. Evensen a écrit : Is there a built-in way to create a slider that only stops at increments of x (e.g., of 20, from 0 to 100, so 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100)? Thanks! Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: slide with multiples of x?
Eric, How does that make you go by 20s? I want the slider to go from 0 to 100 by 20s, so if you have the slider at position 25, it will snap back to 20. Am I missing something? At 03:45 PM 12/5/2006, you wrote: Hi Peter, You can achieve your goal more easily with a oneliner: on mouseUp set the thumbPos of me to the thumbPos of me end mouseUp Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 5 déc. 06 à 22:35, Peter T. Evensen a écrit : Hi Eric, Thanks for the pointer. The one key I was missing is scrollbarDrag. I didn't know about that message. I implemented my own scrollbar value indicator that I move. Here's what I wound up with in my script. I haven't tried this on the Mac yet. I don't like the hard-coded numbers; the might not work on the Mac. I'll have to think to see if I can come up with anything better. on mouseUp set the thumbposition of me to NearestThumbPos(the thumbposition of me) AdjustLabelPosition end mouseUp on scrollbarDrag lock screen AdjustLabelPosition unlock screen end scrollbarDrag function NearestThumbPos pPos put pPos div 20 into tNumTwenties put pPos mod 20 into tRemainder if tRemainder = 10 then add 1 to tNumTwenties end if return 20 * tNumTwenties end NearestThumbPos on AdjustLabelPosition put the thumbposition of me into tPos put NearestThumbPos(the thumbposition of me) into field Thumb Pos put (the width of me - 12) / the endValue of me into tPixelsPerValue put the left of me + 6 + tPixelsPerValue * tPos into tThumbLoc put the loc of field Thumb Pos into tFieldLoc put tThumbLoc into item 1 of tFieldLoc set the loc of field Thumb Pos to tFieldLoc end AdjustLabelPosition At 02:46 PM 12/5/2006, you wrote: Hi Peter, The How to Manage Snap to Scrollbars tutorial might help you: How to manage a slider snap-to behavior to make sure that the indicator lines up with the ticks especially on Mac OS X. You will access this tutorial through Tutorials Picker a free plugin that interfaces with the So Smart Software website in order to display all available tutorials stacks directly from the web. You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/. Revolution/Plugins or Tutorials section. Le 5 déc. 06 à 21:43, Peter T. Evensen a écrit : Is there a built-in way to create a slider that only stops at increments of x (e.g., of 20, from 0 to 100, so 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100)? Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Interesting U3 Article
Some of you have probably seen it, but I thought I would pass it along: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2059961,00.asp Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group margin
I just looked and the boundingrect is empty. I still had to use a leftmargin of -4 to get it to work. At least I do have a work around (the negative leftmargine). It seems to work on Mac as well. Thanks At 09:30 PM 11/9/2006, you wrote: Peter T. Evensen wrote: Is there a way to adjust the group? I have some grouped controls and I made the width of the group smaller than the width of the items and added a horizontal scroll bar. The problem is that there is a several pixels margin on the left and right, so that the scroll bar is wider than it needs to be and when I scroll all the way to the left, the objects are several pixels too far to the right. I tried adjusting the leftmargin, but that doesn't seem to have any effect. I set it to 0, and I still have the blank space on the left. Although if I set the leftmargin to -4 then it has no space on the left. Make sure the group's boundingrect is set to empty. Then open the group for editing (you don't have to change anything, but you might want to jiggle an object or two) and then stop editing it. It sounds like the group's boundaries may be off, and doing this might force a reset of the edges. I seem to remember having this same problem a few years ago and that's how I fixed it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Group margin
Is there a way to adjust the group? I have some grouped controls and I made the width of the group smaller than the width of the items and added a horizontal scroll bar. The problem is that there is a several pixels margin on the left and right, so that the scroll bar is wider than it needs to be and when I scroll all the way to the left, the objects are several pixels too far to the right. I tried adjusting the leftmargin, but that doesn't seem to have any effect. I set it to 0, and I still have the blank space on the left. Although if I set the leftmargin to -4 then it has no space on the left. I guess I found a work-around. But is this the way groups are supposed to work? I did another test with just some boxes (no check boxes) and setting leftmargin to 0 accomplished the same thing. I'm just wondering why I need 0 in one case and -4 in another. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New DST... how will that impact us?
I would assume Rev would just go off the system time, so it would be up to Microsoft and Apple to make sure their computers adjust appropriately. I know Macs (out of the box) can get the time off the internet, so that would be an easy fix. At 11:29 AM 10/31/2006, you wrote: Well, if we didn't have enough issues with dates, here's a new twist: The Energy Policy Act of 2005 was passed through Congress recently and it is going to cause Daylight Savings Time to start a month earlier and end a week later starting next year (2007). Link: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6393658 So since apparently only the US is doing this (am I right about that?), it would seem to mean that any code the depends on DST starting the first Sunday in April and ending the last Sunday in October will have to change. And if the reason PCs and Macs can automatically switch over to DST is because of hard-coded information on the motherboard, then they will have to change too. Does anybody know what other computing effects this will have? Also, does anyone have any info about how Revolution will handle the change? (Perhaps this is best asked of RunRev...) Don't want this to be another Y2K... ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Careful
I know it isn't good, but I don't know what bocks exactly is (or are)... That just goes to show you, one man's (country's) swear word is another man's random syllables. At 12:12 AM 10/26/2006, you wrote: Better be careful what you put in your scripts: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/13/code_outrage/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to delete trailing spaces in a line
How about: put word 1 to -1 of line n of tText into line n of tText At 01:46 PM 10/24/2006, you wrote: I don't claim that it is the best way, but, in order to delete all spaces at the end of a field I am using : repeat until last char of fld leTexte is not space delete last char of fld leTexte end repeat which works for a line as well (I just tried it). Best regards from Grenoble André Le 24 oct. 06 à 17:10, Mark Powell a écrit : I want to delete all spaces at the end of a line, be they a single space or a couple dozen. What is the best way to do this? Mark Powell ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to delete trailing spaces in a line
Good point. So it will. At 02:23 PM 10/24/2006, you wrote: Peter, that script would remove any leading spaces, as well. Best, Jerry Daniels Makers of Galaxy 1.5 http://www.daniels-mara.com/new_in_galaxy_1_5.htm On Oct 24, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: How about: put word 1 to -1 of line n of tText into line n of tText ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP thumbs.db file
In searching on the web, it is an OLE structured data file. Here is a library someone wrote to parse it: http://www.petedavis.net/MySite/DynPageView.aspx?pageid=31 and a pdf describing the file: http://www.accessdata.com/media/en_US/print/papers/wp.Thumbs_DB_Files.en_us.pdf You could probably use the Revolution file functions to create your own code to read and process this file. When it is all said and done, it is just a file. Revolution can read and process it if you know what you are doing (and know the format of the file). At 11:20 AM 10/18/2006, you wrote: I have recently had XP users complaining about 'blank' images in what is in essence a slide show of images contained in a folder. The standalone assumes everything in the folder is an image, and tries to display each. I had carefully deleted OS X invisible files (the file database and custom icon files) from the folder, so I was surprised something had seemingly sneaked through. I have discovered that the problem is an ordinarily invisible file created by XP, called thumbs.db, containing, unsurprisingly, the thumbnails used in the rather nasty filmstrip view. Now I know it exists, I can 'filter it without' so that thumbs.db is not included in the list of images to display. However, it got me to wondering how hard it would be to display the images stored in the thumbs.db file. If the answer (using Rev) is 'impossible' or 'tricky', either single word response to this post will do. Only waste brain and finger energy if it is more easy than might be expected ;-)) Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users
I'm a FORMER user of REALBasic. I never used it for major (multimedia) development, like I do use Revolution now. I guess I am still counted in the 100,000. BTW, I fired up my RB 5.5 the other day and almost fell off my chair when the Windows firewall came up and told me it was trying to connect to the internet! Why is RB connecting to the internet? And what is it doing? Why would it phone home? Perhaps that is how they get their user count... it tells them every time you run it. Peter aka RB User #1,354 At 01:24 PM 10/4/2006, you wrote: In a press release http://www.macmegasite.com/node/3201 today, REALBasic indicated its product now produces Universal Binaries, but I found it more intriguing that they claim 100,000 users of their product. I can't believe that's a real number but if it is, they have clearly been doing a lot of growing in the past 12-18 months, probably at the expense of VB which has driven its users away in droves with its stupid take .NET or go away approach. That would also mean they are *considerably* larger than I suspect RunRev is (though RunRev, like most companies, doesn't reveal installed-base numbers). -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.7.4 standalone versions
I don't see that anyone has pointed out the fact that a Universal Binary IS a PowerPC version and an Intel version merged together (so your option c IS a UB). I believe Universal Binaries will run on version of OS X prior to 3.9. It will just use the PowerPC verson. The whole point of a UB is that it is UNIVERSAL. Everyone can use it. The only reason to provide just a PowerPC-only version is to offer a slightly smaller version (without the Intel run-time, which is only a couple meg, not a huge saving in this day and age). At 03:10 PM 10/1/2006, you wrote: Regarding which of the standalone versions to include in distributing one's built applications, please correct me if my logic is wrong here: a. I assume that very few Mac users have operating systems that are earlier than OS X, so one does not have to be so concerned about distributing for OS 9 (or Classic). b. Many people, though, may have OSX versions less than 3.9, so distributing an application in Universal Binary would not help these users, if Universal Binary requires OS X.3.9 or higher. One would then have to also include PowerPC-only (for all versions of OSX) and Intel-only (for optimal performance on Intel) versions to reach most users. c. Perhaps the ideal way of distributing might be a combination of PowerPC-only and Intel-only versions. That should cover all PowerPC versions as well as Intel. It would not be necessary to include the Universal Binary version. Does this logic make sense? Steve Goldberg In a message dated 10/1/06 2:45:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the Universal version will work both on Intel Mac computers as well as non-Intel Mac OS X computers, what would be the advantage of including the Power PC only or Intel only versions when distributing one's application, since the Universal version would seem to work on both kinds of computers? One reason might be filesize. Universal apps are twice as big. The other is, running universal apps requires Os X.3.9 or higher, so if you want to support X.2 or smaller you need a power PC only compile. I am happy to have all options, as Universal Binary is the buzzword du jour when releasing new Mac apps at the moment. Many people over here think, if it is no universal binary, it is not a good app. Therefore Intel only is out of the game for me for a while, but might be reasonable if I want to release an app. that is very resource hungry and requires a modern computer to work reliably. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Simulating Keystrokes
You can also use the command type to simulate keystrokes. But that doesn't answer your question (I just thought I'd through this out there as it is another way to do simulated keystrokes). You could probably do it with AppleScript. It probably has a mechanism to send keystrokes, or at least activate expose. At 09:34 AM 9/29/2006, you wrote: Hey, I know I can simulate keystrokes from Revolution to my stack by sending the keyDown message, but is there any way to send keystrokes to the system or to other programs? I would like to send keystrokes like F9 to activate expose, but it would be very nice to be able to send any keystroke. TTFN Bridger ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Legos
This sounds like an argument FOR variable checking. This is something I've learned to look for when my scripts aren't doing what I expect. Invariably (hmm...pun intended?) I have mistyped a variable name. One way that I have found this problem is in the variable watcher while stepping through a handler. If two similarly named variables appear next to each other, I know I have misspelled it someplace. At 10:54 AM 9/28/2006, you wrote: I think I should maybe stick with legos. As it turns out my problem with my code was that somewhere along the line I changed the variable name from mfile to mfilename. I don't remember doing it. I cannot believe I could not see it. Is it too much coffee or not enough? These are questions that will plague me for weeks to come. Thanks everyone for putting up with my ignorance. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Substacks
Another advantage to using a substack is that the main stack's script is in the message path of a substack. At 06:58 AM 9/15/2006, you wrote: Hi Everyone, I suppose I'm going to open up a can of worms with this question. What is an advantage of using a substack rather than just starting a separate stack? I would think separate stacks have an advantage because they can be backed up separately. Joe ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Home vs. Pro vs. Embedded
I've used an embedded XP machine (the Akimbo player). It let's you piece together the OS that you want to run on a dedicated piece of hardware.Since it is embedded on something, you know what drivers are needed, etc. You can throw out parts of the OS you know you won't need, and so get a more memory and disk-space compact version of XP. At 12:03 AM 9/14/2006, you wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 2:44 PM Sep 13, 2006, Peter T. Evensen wrote: According to Wikipedia, embedded can do everything XP can: http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Embedded It's a version of XP designed for embedded applications. I think it is a bit more modular. Hi Peter, Thanks for that link. It is all becoming a little bit more clear. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Home vs. Pro vs. Embedded
A memory leak is more often encountered in a traditional program where you do your own memory management. It happens if you allocate a chunk of memory and forget to free it when you are done. If you do that over and over, you get all these unused chunks of memory the computer still thinks you are using, so your program eats up more and more memory. In the Rev world, it would be like doing a create field each time you needed a field but if you forget to delete the field, you end up with all these unused fields floating around using up memory. Eventually you will fill up all available memory. Another example would be cloning stacks and never closing them or closing them without their destroyStack property set to true. Revolution handles memory for you, so usually you don't need to worry about it (unless there is a leak in Revolution). I don't know exactly what your application does, so I'm not sure if you would have memory-related problems. At 04:23 AM 9/14/2006, you wrote: Peter, Can you explain what you mean by a memory leak and how that effects stability? Thanks. Richard On Sep 13, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: What type of instability are you seeing? If it is a memory leak, adding RAM will only delay the inevitable. From what I've seen, I don't think that Home vs Pro would make much difference. At 10:12 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote: Our Rev application is to be used on kiosks, so the software (which has a lot of moving parts to it) could be used continuously throughout a given day. We're currently testing it under XP Home and seeing some instability over the course of use. I'm starting to think most of these problems are external to the application, as they occur unpredictably, without any pattern, and are difficult to reproduce on demand. Two items come to mind: inadequate RAM (512 on a new Fujitsu laptop) and our use of XP Home. I don't know what else is running on this Fujitsu that might be effecting reliability. It's an off-the-shelf unit and I'm not familiar enough with XP to know which software I can disable (being a Mac person) to make the unit more reliable. My question is, would upgrading to XP Pro or Embedded possibly create a more reliable unit, and/or would adding more RAM make a difference (the Rev application is the only application I am intentionally running on this unit). Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Memory leakage / memory problems
Look at your app in the task manager and look at the Process Tab and Memory usage. If that keeps going up and up as you use the program, you have a leak some place. It may fluctuate, as you go different stacks and cards. If you have a main menu screen, however, it should return to a constant value every time you return there. If you go into your program and back to the main screen and the number goes up each time you do that, you definitely have a memory leak someplace. Another potential source of memory leaks is externals. Do you use any externals? At 05:33 AM 9/14/2006, you wrote: Well, I'm not that knowledgeable about Windows either... Looking at the Task Manager and the Performance area, which numbers are the critical ones to monitor? Is it the available memory, and if so, when does that number get so low that it becomes a problem? Do I watch CPU usage?... or is the commit charge info a critical variable? Thanks. Richard On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:23 AM, Ian Wood wrote: It might not be *your* program that's having problems. :-( I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to Windows, but leaving the Task Manager open so that you can see what resources different apps are using would probably be a good start. Then leave it all running and wait until there are problems. Don't you just love intermittent bugs? Ian P.S. A notorious example of memory leaks on OS X is Safari - if you leave your computer up for long periods of time Safari can easily hit more than a GB of RAM after being open for a few days, even after you close most of the tabs and windows... On 14 Sep 2006, at 10:39, Richard Miller wrote: Ian, This sounds like a possible culprit for the problem in our application. Is there a way to find out what is causing this or to verify it is occurring? Any code that can be written in? Any specific places in the code to look for it? Again, what we are experiencing is the program bogging down or simply freezing up at various points throughout a day, but never at the same place. This is in runtime mode only not in the development environment. No programming bugs show up there. Thanks. Richard On Sep 14, 2006, at 5:27 AM, Ian Wood wrote: Memory leaks are where a program grabs memory when needed, but doesn't release all of it afterwards. If the machine is up for a long time, even a minor memory leak can tie up all available RAM, bogging down the whole machine. Ian On 14 Sep 2006, at 10:23, Richard Miller wrote: Peter, Can you explain what you mean by a memory leak and how that effects stability? Thanks. Richard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Home vs. Pro vs. Embedded
What type of instability are you seeing? If it is a memory leak, adding RAM will only delay the inevitable. From what I've seen, I don't think that Home vs Pro would make much difference. At 10:12 AM 9/13/2006, you wrote: Our Rev application is to be used on kiosks, so the software (which has a lot of moving parts to it) could be used continuously throughout a given day. We're currently testing it under XP Home and seeing some instability over the course of use. I'm starting to think most of these problems are external to the application, as they occur unpredictably, without any pattern, and are difficult to reproduce on demand. Two items come to mind: inadequate RAM (512 on a new Fujitsu laptop) and our use of XP Home. I don't know what else is running on this Fujitsu that might be effecting reliability. It's an off-the-shelf unit and I'm not familiar enough with XP to know which software I can disable (being a Mac person) to make the unit more reliable. My question is, would upgrading to XP Pro or Embedded possibly create a more reliable unit, and/or would adding more RAM make a difference (the Rev application is the only application I am intentionally running on this unit). Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Home vs. Pro vs. Embedded
According to Wikipedia, embedded can do everything XP can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Embedded It's a version of XP designed for embedded applications. I think it is a bit more modular. At 04:19 PM 9/13/2006, you wrote: On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:56 PM Sep 13, 2006, Chipp Walters wrote: There should not be any robustness issues whatsover between XP home and Pro. Regarding your question, the answer is 'NO', unless you need to access multiple networked workgroups from your kiosk (I suggest not), you are fine with Win XP home. In fact, I use WinXP home both at home and at work-- never with any problems. Wish I could say the same about my Tiger Mac. Chipp or anyone else, What is the main difference between Embedded and other forms of Windows? Can it do everything the others can do? Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
delay setting up record sound ?
I'm trying to use record sound file file.wav to record a sound. There is a 2 second delay before the recording starts. Is there a way to eliminate this delay? There is also a 2-3 second delay when I stop recording, which is annoying. This is happening on Windows XP. I haven't tried it on OS X yet. Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Win build opens at minimum size (and 'Made with Rev' logos)
This was a bug I found. I believe it is fixed in 2.7.3. I had that same problem on 2.7.2 on Win 98. I just did a set the minwidth of this stack to ... in the preOpenstack. I haven't tested 2.7.3 on Win98 yet, but they say they fixed the problem. At 04:17 AM 8/24/2006, you wrote: I was recently testing a build on Win 98 and found that the app opened at minimum size. Same build for OS X was fine. I set the stack to be resizeable, but I couldn't grow it. It was as if the min size was being treated as a max size. My fix was to set the minimum size to the desired size and then build again. (using 2.7.2, OS X) Don't know whether this will be of any use to anyone, but there it is. And while I am on, I have no objections to giving Rev due recognition for the software I make. My beef is that the quality of the logo images provided is pretty poor, to the point where the 'made with' text of PNGs is virtually illegible - and certainly becomes so if scaled at all. The best is runtimeweb.gif, and I use that converted in GraphicConverter to the format and size I need. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Can one run out of IDs?
I am creating an app that creates and deletes a lot of fields. It is basically a educational title with cloze activities (i.e., fill-in, like The d_ _ likes to ch_ _ _ the ball.) I read the content from an external text file and then copy an existing field to get the different parts. In the example above I create 10 fields containing The d _ _ likes to ch _ _ _ the ball. I use separate fields so I can more easily control the placement of the text so as to not have text moving as I replace the underscores with letters (e.g. _ is a lot wider than an i, so if I have dig as d__ a hole, and I replace the first _ with i, the text after the I will move to the left.) My concern is that with creating and deleting so many fields, I might run out of IDs. Are the IDs ever reused? This probably isn't a problem with the runtime, since the stack isn't saved, so the next time the program is run, it will start with the same IDs each time. My main concern is in testing the program in the IDE and ratcheting up the ID numbers. Is this a valid concern? Is there anyway to reset the ID numbers? Thanks! Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can one run out of IDs?
In doing more reading, I think I answered a lot of my questions. ID's aren't reused. The ID of the stack contains the last ID assigned. Looks like IDs go for 1000-100,999. I delete and create fields because it makes the code much simpler. Otherwise I have to create field management functions to shuffle the fields around, hide ones that aren't used, make sure they aren't named in a way that will clash with fields that I am using. This wouldn't be too hard, but would be much more complex and could be a source of bugs. I'm also grouping fields to facilitate the layout. There is no easy way to move a field from one group to another that I can see, except for cutting and pasting. I suppose I could rework my algorithms to not use groups. At 10:23 AM 8/24/2006, you wrote: Peter, Just curious : why do you delete create fields ? Instead, why don't you work with a maximum set of fields (the maximum number of flds you'll ever need simulateously) and just replace the content of those fields on the fly ? JB I am creating an app that creates and deletes a lot of fields. It is basically a educational title with cloze activities (i.e., fill-in, like The d_ _ likes to ch_ _ _ the ball.) I read the content from an external text file and then copy an existing field to get the different parts. In the example above I create 10 fields containing The d _ _ likes to ch _ _ _ the ball. I use separate fields so I can more easily control the placement of the text so as to not have text moving as I replace the underscores with letters (e.g. _ is a lot wider than an i, so if I have dig as d__ a hole, and I replace the first _ with i, the text after the I will move to the left.) My concern is that with creating and deleting so many fields, I might run out of IDs. Are the IDs ever reused? This probably isn't a problem with the runtime, since the stack isn't saved, so the next time the program is run, it will start with the same IDs each time. My main concern is in testing the program in the IDE and ratcheting up the ID numbers. Is this a valid concern? Is there anyway to reset the ID numbers? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can one run out of IDs?
How does setting relayerGroupedControls let you move them from one group to another? Actually, I'm looking at reusing fields and it maybe be faster, but it isn't slimmer. It makes the layout of the scripts much more complex. At 10:47 AM 8/24/2006, you wrote: I'm also grouping fields to facilitate the layout. There is no easy way to move a field from one group to another that I can see, except for cutting and pasting. I suppose I could rework my algorithms to not use groups. Yes, flds can be moved between groups very easily using the relayerGroupedControls property). But again, I think that simply moving contents would mean slimmer faster scripts... Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Can one run out of IDs?
Actually, I did just rewrite things to reuse fields. It wasn't that bad. It was simpler in some cases (so I take back what I said :)) At 10:47 AM 8/24/2006, you wrote: I'm also grouping fields to facilitate the layout. There is no easy way to move a field from one group to another that I can see, except for cutting and pasting. I suppose I could rework my algorithms to not use groups. Yes, flds can be moved between groups very easily using the relayerGroupedControls property). But again, I think that simply moving contents would mean slimmer faster scripts... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: About Openstack
There is a stack script in Revolution as well. You can access it via the Object menu - Stack Script. It's been a while since I've used Hypercard, but Revolultion is very similar in structure, so you should be able to find the same things in Revolution. At 12:00 PM 8/21/2006, you wrote: Dear Sirs : I need to use On Openstack structure. Where I need to put this instruction? We are working with standalones. I know about Openstack, but in Hypercard we had Stack Script.. but in Revolution, i dont know where to put this instruction. Cordialmente, Alvaro Abril Gerente de Tecnología Divertia S.A. www.fantasticguatemala.com Tel. 502 2410 4600 Fax.502 2410 4646 Guatemala -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Klaus Major Enviado el: Lunes, 21 de Agosto de 2006 09:21 a.m. Para: How to use Revolution Asunto: Re: OT: message to Yves Hi Yves, Le 21 août 06 à 17:10, Klaus Major a écrit : Hi Yves, did you rceive my mails lately? My latest mail to you bounced back for unknown reasons!??? Best I didn't receive your off list mail I was expecting your answer with fever but nothing !!! just sent again a couple of minutes before and did not yet come back! May be a good sign :-) Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect
I think you are getting recursion. Setting the screenMouseLoc causes mouseMove to be sent. You might want to try locking messages before setting screenMouseLoc. At 08:02 AM 8/17/2006, you wrote: Greetings This is my annual mailing on this topic. I won't bore you with why I need to do this deprecated act, but I do. Basically I need the pointer to refuse to move outside a rect, and just 'bounce' against the edge. No recoil or anything fancy, just stop until the user moves elsewhere with the rect. I had a script that worked in a standalone in 1.1.1. It was inelegant, but effectively. It became painfully slow and jerky in 2.x. Hi David, basically, this modified version of the script works: on mouseMove X,Y if the hilite of button constrain is true then put the rect of fld container into Fred put min (item 3 of Fred , max (item 1 of Fred, X)) into X put min (item 4 of Fred , max (item 2 of Fred, Y)) into Y get the globalloc of (X,Y) set the screenMouseLoc to it end if end mouseMove but it is *incredibly* slow on OSX (not tried on Windows). I'm not quite sure what it is that's slowing this down - does setting the ScreenMouseLoc send a MouseMove message itself? There's bound to be a better way of doing this? -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Plugins folder? (was Re: How Galaxy is...)
This change came with 2.7.x. From 2.7 on, the Revolution folder is supposed to be considered read only so that the automatic updating, launching, etc. will work. As to where it is documented, I'm not sure. Perhaps in a 2.7.? read me file? As to versions, evidently your plugin should check the version and perform accordingly. (Keep in Mind that 2.6.1 and below still has the old folder format, so nothing changes there). At 02:08 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 5:40 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: The third party plugins folder is in the documents folder. The path is something like this, depending upon your OS and the version of Rev and Galaxy you have: ...documents/my revolution studio/plugins/ galaxy lite startup.rev. This is new to me. I thought the plugins folder was that named plugins in the same folder that contained the Revolution application. I thought all plugins were (virtually) 3rd party by definition. The all.pdf doc refers to the Plugins folder, which to me means one. (Well, it means that I should be able to identify the correct one from context, but for me the context says one.) What Rev versions look for plugins in these alternate places? If a Plugin requires a particular release of Revolution, how does Revolution know when to put it in the Plugins menu? Where is this documented? Not user/library ? Confused and curious... Dar Scott ___ Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect
Perhaps you could just create an object and trap the mouseLeave message and move the pointer in that? At 03:14 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: I found that using a send in time structure to check the mouseLoc rather than waiting for the mouseMove message was slightly more reliable (OSX) and better kept it from going outside the bounding area. on MouseTrap -- keep the mouse pointer inside the window if the optionkey is NOT down then -- but overide this behavior with the optionKey put item 1 of globalLoc(the mouseLoc) into x put item 2 of globalLoc(the mouseLoc) into y put the top of this stack into tTopEdge put the bottom of this stack into tBottomEdge put the right of this stack into tRightEdge put the left of this stack into tLeftEdge if x tLeftEdge then put tLeftEdge +1 into x if x tRightEdge then put tRightEdge -1 into x if y tTopEdge then put tTopEdge +1 into y if y tBottomEdge then put tBottomEdge-1 into y set the screenmouseloc to x,y end if send MouseTrap to me in 40 millisec end MouseTrap -Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust !) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Aug 17, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote: This script seems to work with adequate performance: on mousemove mh,mv if the hilite of btn constrain is true then if mh = the left of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (the left of fld container, mv) end if if mh = the right of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (the right of fld container, mv) end if if mv = the top of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (mh,the top of fld container) end if if mv = the bottom of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (mh,the bottom of fld container) end if end if end mousemove Note two things: 1) The button Constrain needs to be within the field Container or you'll never be able to get out. :-) 2) It is possible to move the mouse out of the rect for brief moments, but then it pops back into the rectangle. I'm assuming it's a function of slipping out between a mousemove scan. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect
Actually, if you put the following in the card or stack and do you're constraining, it should work: on mouseLeave if the target is me then --- constrain here end if end mouseLeave The issue is, if you put this in the card or stack script, and a control doesn't trap mouseLeave, the control will pass it's mouseLeave up to the stack or card. I did a test with this in the card script with a button on it, and only got mouse left when I moved outside the window, and not when I moved over a control in the window: on mouseLeave if the target is me then put Mouse Left end mouseLeave on mouseEnter if the target is me then put mouse entered end mouseEnter At 05:13 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: Ah, trapping the mouseLeave is much more elegant from a number-of- messages-needed standpoint. I just tried it. Unfortunately, in my situation, because a mouseLeave object only works for the portion that is not covered by another object (and it can't be transparent) this makes it awkward to use any controls underneath. On Aug 17, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Perhaps you could just create an object and trap the mouseLeave message and move the pointer in that? At 03:14 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: I found that using a send in time structure to check the mouseLoc rather than waiting for the mouseMove message was slightly more reliable (OSX) and better kept it from going outside the bounding area. on MouseTrap -- keep the mouse pointer inside the window if the optionkey is NOT down then -- but overide this behavior with the optionKey put item 1 of globalLoc(the mouseLoc) into x put item 2 of globalLoc(the mouseLoc) into y put the top of this stack into tTopEdge put the bottom of this stack into tBottomEdge put the right of this stack into tRightEdge put the left of this stack into tLeftEdge if x tLeftEdge then put tLeftEdge +1 into x if x tRightEdge then put tRightEdge -1 into x if y tTopEdge then put tTopEdge +1 into y if y tBottomEdge then put tBottomEdge-1 into y set the screenmouseloc to x,y end if send MouseTrap to me in 40 millisec end MouseTrap -Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust !) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Aug 17, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote: This script seems to work with adequate performance: on mousemove mh,mv if the hilite of btn constrain is true then if mh = the left of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (the left of fld container, mv) end if if mh = the right of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (the right of fld container, mv) end if if mv = the top of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (mh,the top of fld container) end if if mv = the bottom of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (mh,the bottom of fld container) end if end if end mousemove Note two things: 1) The button Constrain needs to be within the field Container or you'll never be able to get out. :-) 2) It is possible to move the mouse out of the rect for brief moments, but then it pops back into the rectangle. I'm assuming it's a function of slipping out between a mousemove scan. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect
If you want to keep the item within a rectangle, you could still do the check inside the rectangle. You will get a mouseLeave when the mouse goes into a control contained in the area, but the check will determine that no mouse adjustments are necessary.This will cut down on the number of messages needed. If you want to constrain the mouse to the window, see my previous post which works even better (or so it seems). At 05:13 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: Ah, trapping the mouseLeave is much more elegant from a number-of- messages-needed standpoint. I just tried it. Unfortunately, in my situation, because a mouseLeave object only works for the portion that is not covered by another object (and it can't be transparent) this makes it awkward to use any controls underneath. On Aug 17, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Perhaps you could just create an object and trap the mouseLeave message and move the pointer in that? At 03:14 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: I found that using a send in time structure to check the mouseLoc rather than waiting for the mouseMove message was slightly more reliable (OSX) and better kept it from going outside the bounding area. on MouseTrap -- keep the mouse pointer inside the window if the optionkey is NOT down then -- but overide this behavior with the optionKey put item 1 of globalLoc(the mouseLoc) into x put item 2 of globalLoc(the mouseLoc) into y put the top of this stack into tTopEdge put the bottom of this stack into tBottomEdge put the right of this stack into tRightEdge put the left of this stack into tLeftEdge if x tLeftEdge then put tLeftEdge +1 into x if x tRightEdge then put tRightEdge -1 into x if y tTopEdge then put tTopEdge +1 into y if y tBottomEdge then put tBottomEdge-1 into y set the screenmouseloc to x,y end if send MouseTrap to me in 40 millisec end MouseTrap -Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust !) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Aug 17, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Howard Bornstein wrote: This script seems to work with adequate performance: on mousemove mh,mv if the hilite of btn constrain is true then if mh = the left of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (the left of fld container, mv) end if if mh = the right of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (the right of fld container, mv) end if if mv = the top of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (mh,the top of fld container) end if if mv = the bottom of fld container then set the screenmouseloc to the globalloc of (mh,the bottom of fld container) end if end if end mousemove Note two things: 1) The button Constrain needs to be within the field Container or you'll never be able to get out. :-) 2) It is possible to move the mouse out of the rect for brief moments, but then it pops back into the rectangle. I'm assuming it's a function of slipping out between a mousemove scan. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Is there a more English-like Programming language than Transcript?
I hesitate to bring this up, but one problem with Revolution is the name. It is a unsearchable name. Image this guy going and Googling Revolution. Will the RunRev site come up? It's the 6th link when I do it, and it comes up after Revolution Software which sounds like what one would want. Frankly I'm impressed the RunRev site appears 6th. The problem is Revolution is a normal word. Other names, like ReadBasic, are more unique, and will always take you to where you want to go. At 10:45 PM 8/14/2006, you wrote: I said Revolution He said Hmm never heard of Revolution. Oops gotta go... I'm up next I don't think I should to have said coded in transcipt at that moment. Sivakatirswami Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows NT
Has anyone here successfully run a standalone on Windows NT with version 2.7.x? With 2.7.2 or 2.7.3 I get the following: Entry Point Not Found The procedure entry point SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in teh dynamic link library shell32.dll Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why do group ID's change when cloning a stack
But then you get into issues where buttons have graphics referenced by IDs. The only way around this is to reassign the icon IDs at some point. At 01:19 PM 8/11/2006, you wrote: Since the days of Hypercard, I have known that using ID's to reference objects was sketchy at best. As a matter of good programming practice, you should keep track of all your variables and object names so there is no inadvertent duplication to bite you in the butt later. If nothing else, use variable and object names that specifically describe the actual object. That was, as we learned at Revconwest 2006, The code practically comments itself. Naming objects are definitely the way to go. (IMHO) Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Aug 11, 2006, at 7:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By accident I just discovered that group ID's change when you clone a stack. This can be very annoying when you work with tmplt stacks which you clone to use as, lets say a document or a viewer. snip Best wishes Claudi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why do group ID's change when cloning a stack
Ooops. I didn't read thoroughly. If the other object IDs don't change, it is moot. It is odd that the only the group ID's would change. At 01:47 PM 8/11/2006, you wrote: Do those graphics ID's change with a clone or do they remain the same? If they remain the same then for the sake of this discussion the point is moot. The original discussion was about how group ID's change, but other object ID's do not. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Aug 11, 2006, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then you get into issues where buttons have graphics referenced by IDs. The only way around this is to reassign the icon IDs at some point. At 01:19 PM 8/11/2006, you wrote: Since the days of Hypercard, I have known that using ID's to reference objects was sketchy at best. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Tag Cleaner Fails
Unless I misunderstand what you are saying, setting the htmlText of a field *should* process the (Revolution-supported) HTML in the text, otherwise setting the htmlText of a field would not be useful. The whole point is being able to use the supported html tags to mark up text and then have it displayed properly in a field. If you look at the documentation entry for htmlText, it is clear that this is exactly what this property is intended to do. If you are saying it shouldn't process unsupported HTML tags, that is something different. I'm not sure what it's behavior is. I use htmlText in a project to strip out html by setting the htmlText of a hidden field and then getting the text of that field (instead of htmlText). This neatly strips out the tags. I am, however, only using the Revolution-supported tags in my text. I don't know why it is striping out text between the title tags. At 01:45 PM 8/8/2006, you wrote: On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:56 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Except that title has a defined, special meaning that Rev knows about -- which is to specify the title of a document -- and that is by definition distinct from the content. The foo tag however, is undefined. I believe that it's appropriate to strip out the information between title tags and to preserve the information between foo tags. By reference, see: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/HTMLandSGML.html That is an HTML document. You are assuming that a field and htmlText has something to do with HTML. What do you base this assumption on? It is clear that htmlText is a view that is html-like. There is no reason to expect it to process HTML when it is dumped into the property. (Now, I do think htmlText when retrieved might be closer to HTML, such as the handling of white space, but that is a different issue. Maybe it is even possible for retrieved htmlText to closely render in HTML.) There is no reason to expect a field to process HTML when it is dumped into the field's htmlText property. Stripping title is bizarre. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text to Speech on XP
I think he is referring to using revspeech.dll or revspeechapi4.dll. Microsoft, in there infinite wisdom, change the API from version 4 to version 5 of TTS. I see in 2.7.2 it appears that the api4.dll is no longer shipped, so maybe it is not longer a problem. It used to be if you were using Windows TTS 4 you had to rename revspeechapi4.dll to revspeech.dll (and the original revspeech.dll to something else) and use that instead. At 10:31 AM 7/28/2006, you wrote: At 5:28 PM +0200 7/28/06, Mark Schonewille wrote: Yes, text2speech is one of the few things I really like about windows. I assume all you have to do is make sure that the externals property has been set correctly. It works perfectly for me. As long as I select 'speech' for inclusion it should work on XP with a simple revSpeak Hello Bob Correct? What do you mean by externals property has been set correctly? I see nothing in the documentation about setting externals for T2T. ciao, sims European Rev Conference 2006 www.techietours.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: time shorthand convertor - Is there an advantage to declaring local variables?
If you turn on explicit variable, then you have to. Turning this on can catch some script errors (like misspelled variable names). Otherwise there isn't really any advantage that I can think of. At 12:26 PM 7/28/2006, you wrote: Is there an advantage to declaring local variables? (other than a reminder?) On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Cute. I couldn't resist fiddling with it a bit. ON convertTime local t local ampm local t2 Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
