Re: Extracting Resources from MacOS X Resource Files
Have you opened (control-click) the package and looked through all the files/folders inside? .rsrc is a special os type that's actually a folder. -- An example is the .rtfd 'file' that is created by saving an RTF document with graphics in TextEdit. In that case, it was really just a folder with a .png and a .rtf file inside. This is what Apple came up with when they had to move their 'Resource Fork' metaphor to a different file system. I quite like the OSX packaging system of today (making a Rev standalone inside a package with splash - I have it all, a stand alone for the client but an easily modified system with all the source code and tools), but in the pre-rev Hypercard world, resource forks were a godsend. That's where the XCMDS, sounds, pictures, code, fonts, everything except data was stored, which of course was in the DATA fork. I used many, many, TEXT resources like we use custom properties in Rev today. You could even put executable Hypertalk into these resources. This was a system thing; and other apps could get access to the same resources. This is not the same now in Rev as pictures and sounds are stored in a proprietary format, I'm sure to preserve cross-platform compatibility. Say, nobody's written a 'Resource Mover' for Rev yet. maybe I will. sqb 2009/1/22 Dave d...@looktowindward.com On 22 Jan 2009, at 16:18, J. Landman Gay wrote: Dave wrote: I just want to be able to access this rsrc file to get an icns file, then access the icns file to get the rendered version of the Icon at a given resolution. If it is just a one-time thing to extract particular icons, you could save a lot of time by just using Graphic Converter. It will extract all the icons for you and save them to disk. GC will open .icns files, but not MacOS X .rsrc files, so I'd still need a way to get the .icns resources into separate files. But , no, unfortunately I want to be able to obtain the rendered icon from a .icns file and this file is stored on a removable volume. When the volume is mounted, I want to be able to grab the icon from the file on the volume. Is there really no way to access MacOS X .rsrc (theme) files under RunRev or a way get an Icon and a rendered image? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Extracting Resources from MacOS X Resource Files
Wow... strange it appears Apple is violating its own guidelines to obfuscate resources -- a form of DRM. Where can one get a iTunes.rsrc file? It doesn't appear to be in my distribution. 2009/1/22 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com: stephen barncard wrote: Have you opened (control-click) the package and looked through all the files/folders inside? .rsrc is a special os type that's actually a folder. I'm not so sure. Right-clicking on iTunes.rsrc doesn't provide an option for opening it as a bundle, and dropping it on TextEdit open it up. It appears to be a file, and if indeed it contains icons it's just another example of Apple not following their own guidelines, which suggest that Richard Gaskin -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: externals
Jiro, Your application is beautiful, a work of art. are you going to make your java external available in some way? stephen barncard (OSX) 2009/1/18 Jiro Harada j...@ronri-kobo.com Randall, Java provides a lot of methods for File IO, which are abstracted and platform-dependent. My external enables them to be used from within Rev. Java Swing offers a platform-independent file or directory chooser dialog. However I have never tested it by using my external. I will test it and inform you of the result later. I don't think my external can open dialogs created in Java. Jiro Harada -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: La communauté Revolution est en deuil
OMG what happened...?? he just got his first product on RevSelect last week... One of the most generous and well-versed xtalker, and always helping people, and giving stuff away... My sympathies as well to the family... sqb 2009/1/17 Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com Bonsoir, Neal, Yves, Eric. Malte, Mark, Matthias, René, Richmond, Devin, Viktoras, Jacques, j'ai transmis vos messages de condoléances au fils d'Eric. Neal, Yves, Eric. Malte, Mark, Matthias, René, Richmond, Devin, Viktoras, Jacques, I transmitted your messages of sympathy to the son of Eric. Jérôme Le 17 janv. 09 à 21:19, Jérôme Rosat a écrit : Bonjour, Je viens d'apprendre que Éric Chatonet est décédé mercredi. Toutes mes pensées vont à son fils et sa famille. Jérôme ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New on this list
Since 1983? that would make you a former Apple Employee or an Apple Developer in 1983.Me too. Had one on my desk at Datamost. With one floppy drive, it was lunacy for loading and saving but. GRAPHICS 2009/1/12 Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com Adri, Welcome aboard, look forward to a fun trip! Paul Looney (Mac user since 1983 ;-) ) -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New on this list
No backplane! Well of course, how can one build stuff to plug into it? Wonderful. 2009/1/12 Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com Stephan, In 1983 I was designing the financial planning system for Digital Research and Steve Jobs had given Gary Kildall a 128 Mac prototype (hoping he'd write some insanely great software for it). I can't remember Dr. Kildall mentioning the Mac without saying, in the same sentence, No backplane... I loved it from the beginning! Paul Looney On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: Since 1983? that would make you a former Apple Employee or an Apple Developer in 1983.Me too. Had one on my desk at Datamost. With one floppy drive, it was lunacy for loading and saving but. GRAPHICS 2009/1/12 Paul Looney supp...@ahsomme.com Adri, Welcome aboard, look forward to a fun trip! Paul Looney (Mac user since 1983 ;-) ) -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Font to show difference between 0 and O
in critical applications where numbers and letters are together, this has always been a big annoyance and for that reason, I like the zeroes to be REAL explicit, with a slash, so there is no question. Profont isn't really fancy, but is designed to be explicit. Free, open source Truetype. I haven't seen an installed font do this, except I have a vague memory of Courier having slashed zeroes at one point. SEE A SAMPLE HERE http://houseofcubes.com/coding/profont.png As far as mixed numbers and characters in passwords, it's actually advantageous for security to do that, just hard for people. 2009/1/11 Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com The Monaco font on Macs clearly shows the differences between a zero and the letter O and the number one and lower case L, etc. What would the equivalent font on Windows and/or Linux be? I was curious about this, so I just did a run though of all installed fonts on a Vista system and was surprised to find nothing that qualified. For the zero character, Consolas (not sure if this standard) was an option, but not a very good for one. When you see the characters next to each other you can kind of make out the difference, but apart I can see there being confusion. If you need the character distinction for registration/password entry, I believe the standard is to avoid mixing numbers and characters, at least in the same block of text. If you need the distinction for other reasons, you may need to research a 3rd party font an install it yourself. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Font to show difference between 0 and O
Also check out Profont 2009/1/10 Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com They have the slash through the 0? Bill On Jan 10, 2009, at 4:02 PM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi, Courier New or Verdana should do under Windows. Regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Font to show difference between 0 and O (11-Jan-2009 0:53) From:Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de The Monaco font on Macs clearly shows the differences between a zero and the letter O and the number one and lower case L, etc. What would the equivalent font on Windows and/or Linux be? It doesn't have to be a monospaced font; just one that shows the characters unequivalently. Preferably the same font could be used for all platforms. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: URL binfile... command seems to corrupt my mp3 files (re-creatable)
Looks like your code should work. However have you tried 'revCopyFile' ? 2009/1/9 Jim Schaubeck jimschaub...@yahoo.com I have an interesting situation. The following simple script maintains mp3 file integrity (I can play it from both old and new folders) put URL binfile:C:/Documents and Settings/Jim Schaubeck/Desktop/test1/testing.mp3 into URL binfile:C:/Documents and Settings/Jim Schaubeck/Desktop/test2/testing.mp3 -- plays fine but I can not control filename.mp3 However, the following script will copy the file but I can not play the newly created mp3 in folder test2 (the mp3 file gets corrupted) put testing.mp3 into tempvar put URL binfile:C:/Documents and Settings/Jim Schaubeck/Desktop/test1/ tempvar into URL binfile:C:/Documents and Settings/Jim Schaubeck/Desktop/test2/testing.mp3 This script moves the file but the mp3 file gets corrupted. What am I missing? My end game is to have flexibility in changing mp3 file names and locations. The 'URL' keyword or 'rename' command both look like they can do what I want (almost) Jim... ___ -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Sound input for a MacPro
Or Skype 2009/1/7 Jim Kanter j...@d-film.com A Logitech USB headset should work well for Skype. Reasonably inexpensive. If your Chinese friend is also on Mac you should consider using iChat. ___ -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Sound input for a MacPro
Webcam mics suck for narration. Too far away from the speaker and too much room tone. A big omission by many podcasters and users of web video (and video broadcasters for that matter) is care for SOUND. A lot of people think it's not important. Video guys are happy if the meter is moving. Use a headset mic for everything. They often sound better than 'professional' mics for computer audio. As far as price of Macs is concerned, I don't have a problem with it. One gets what one pays for. sqb 2009/1/7 Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net I wish, Jim. But most still think Macs are too expensive. (smile) I'm picking up a headset shortly. Thanks. Joe Wilkins On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Jim Kanter wrote: A Logitech USB headset should work well for Skype. Reasonably inexpensive. If your Chinese friend is also on Mac you should consider using iChat. ___ -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - Sound input for a MacPro
Yes, the logitech $40 - $50 model works fine. Excellent for web conferencing, as it avoids the feedback that accompanies such sessions.Available at any Rat Shack store or most any Best Buy or Office Depot kinda place. I had the sales guy tell me these didn't work on Macs. He was convinced. OF COURSE these work on macs -- there's a USB audio standard. I bought two -- from another Radio Shack. 2009/1/7 Judy Perry katheryn.swynf...@gmail.com Do you have a specific headset recommendation? Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Webcam mics suck for narration. Too far away from the speaker and too much room tone. A big omission by many podcasters and users of web video (and video broadcasters for that matter) is care for SOUND. A lot of people think it's not important. Video guys are happy if the meter is moving. Use a headset mic for everything. They often sound better than 'professional' mics for computer audio. As far as price of Macs is concerned, I don't have a problem with it. One gets what one pays for. sqb 2009/1/7 Joe Lewis Wilkins pepe...@cox.net I wish, Jim. But most still think Macs are too expensive. (smile) I'm picking up a headset shortly. Thanks. Joe Wilkins On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Jim Kanter wrote: A Logitech USB headset should work well for Skype. Reasonably inexpensive. If your Chinese friend is also on Mac you should consider using iChat. ___ -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving arrays and custom property sets
I've used this feature a little bit, for a 'thing' that saves and retrieves multiple fields at a time locally for re-insertion later in another record. The multi dimensional arrays can be stored to/from a custom property set, but accessing any multidimensional custom property beyond the first level (propertyset--property--) is not allowed at this time. But working with this even in this form is totally usable. Use the standard syntax to set a custom property set to an array and back. I'm assuming the rev team will enable multi-dimensional prop storage soon, as it's already used for gradients, and of course the above mentioned storage of arrays. One problem holding things up might be that a new custom property editor needs to be built for this. 2009/1/6 David Bovill da...@architex.tv From the docs: Saving of array valued custom properties Custom properties that have arrays as values are now saved in the stack file. If such a stack file is loaded into a version of Revolution that does not support multi-dimensional arrays, any custom properties with an array value will not be ignored. So how does this work with custompropertyset syntax etc? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev cgi mySQL (again)
I'm with you on that - use what one knows of mysql to get a bulk data block, then use chunk expressions to further parse I used to feel guilty that I didn't do it all in MYSQL, using views and other tricks, but these days I'm ok with it. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.comwrote: I have done a similar thing in the past due to my lack of expertise with SQL. I did an initial SQL query to get set of data that included all that I needed but had more. That gave me a variable (I didn't use files) which I processed further using Revolution. This was very fast however an SQL expert might have been able to do the same thing in pure SQL. I tend to think that the server connection is most likely the slowest part of the operation, so any method that reduces the amount of data to be transmitted is a good thing. But this has to be balanced against processing times. Anyway my advice is to benchmark the different approaches and see what works best in your particular circumstance. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to download beta versions?
Are you sure the version isn't in your Studio or Enterprise folder? It doesn't appear that it writes over the old one. It just changes the alias. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:59 AM, David Bovill da...@architex.tv wrote: Anyone point me to somewhere to download the latest beta versions manually? I've downloaded 3.5.0-dp-2, but I need to go back to 3.5.0-dp-2. The manage versions Rev interface does not let me do that as I wen from 3.0.0-gm-3 directy to the latest beta. ___ -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to set the background color of a tab field
Yes, that is a problems with pre-made tabs. I just usually use the provided bg. Two methods come to mind that I use: 1. Close up the built in tab panel backdrop with its shadows, etc to just below the buttons and close the width, and make up your own backdrop for the control with a roundrect graphic object behind the tabbed control. There will be a little 'artifact' going through the buttons but it could be incorporated into the look, as long as you don't try to change the bgcolor. 2. You can easily build your own tabs into custom controls. start with radio buttons (their logic is special ) Choose to show the name or not in each buttons' properties. group them together. set the group's tabgroupbehavior to true the buttons will switch one and only one at a time create artwork for the icon states you want icon, hilited icon, disabled icon,etc. including 'dummy buttons for end caps that trap mouseups. menupick and menuhistory are going to have to be worked around. GETTING THE CURRENT SELECTED BTN group script event: local tHistory on mouseUP put the hilitedbutton of me into tHistory --(me = the radio group) switch tHistory case 1 -- do something break case 2 -- do something break end switch end mouseUP SETTING BTN BY SCRIPT set the hilitedbutton of group id 1009 to 1 be sure to layer the buttons toward the user to adjust for btn overlap experimentation is needed between artwork and code to get it right. I suggest a layer tool like Chipps AltLayerTools or Jerry's VAB to avoid hair loss. Advantages: make it look like you want, any images. New images replace stock radio button graphic. Individual tooltips are possible (stock tabs have only one per state), background layers can be placed as needed Disadvantages: Harder to add new tabs, faked menupick and history - these could be enabled using setprop and getprop. Ken Ray is my inspiration for even attempting custom controls - he's the master - at one Revcon he demonstrated making a tabbed menu and there was a stack available at the conference, however I don't know if it's online anywhere. Very clever, original ideas. Perhaps he could tell us if its available, but it's not the same without Ken talking over it! Eric Chatonet has a tutorial on using tabbed menus. You've probably seen it. On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:27 AM, william humphrey shoreag...@gmail.comwrote: Making tab fields that are pretty is harder than I thought. The tab menu has a nice pretty rounded corner background but if you try to set the background color of it that color has square corners. Since RunRev knows how to make the nice rounded background in the first place why isn't it possible (or is it?) to color just that part? --Thanks -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: how to set the background color of a tab field
That should be artwork and text properties- Hide quoted text - On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:11 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: experimentation is needed between artwork and code to get it right. -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
TESTING - IGNORE
Testing Gmail to REV -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT2: The 'realness' of languages
After I told her I used Revolution for its rapid-development and cross-platform capabilities, a subtle change occurred in the conversation. She began talking about how I might help with the design, but that of course when the design was finished a software firm would take over the development (presumably in some 'real' language like C). I didn't bother to tell her I COULD write in C, Java, PERL, PHP and so on, because it would be extraordinarily painful to do so. Why not tell her that then, if you felt you lost anyway? The only answer to fight the myths is education. This is similar to the 'loudness wars' in the music business, where untrained amateur 'mastering' engineers and forced professionals are making LOUD CDs, even though they know they're trampling the dynamics and it makes the music worse. Loud CDs use 'hypercompression' - not data compression but audio compression in the digital realm, which is at first interesting but eventually tedious to listen to. (think Ricky Martin and Britany for extremes) The myth is that these records sound 'better' on the radio, but they really don't. But the myth really goes back to the vinyl days, that had limitations: if it was cut too soft it would be enveloped in noise. On the other hand there was a limit to how much time you could put on a disc. Louder records were shorter in length, quieter were longer. That's why Miles Davis's 'In A Silent Way' is so quiet. Almost an hour playing time! Has anyone else run into this issue? Do you dodge the 'what is it written in' question? How can we raise the profile of Revolution as a 'real' language? (Never mind what religion it might resemble!) George -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Guy Kawasaki on AM Coast to Coast
Guy Kawasaki and aliens! I'll bet he's probably not going to talk about Apple that much... the weekend? That means Art Bell himself might be doing the show. I hope so. Looks like AM Coast to Coast, the radio program famous for hosting guests who are experts on UFOs, bigfoot, and all manner of conspiracy theories, comes down to earth a bit Saturday night when the guest is Guy Kawasaki: Saturday, December 20 -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] If programming languages were religions...
This is the best Richmond post ever! I see Runtime Revolution as, in some way, resembling Hinduism: sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: latest beta GLx2
Wrong email address for you is on record in the Rev database. Nothing personal. It's a bot. Ask Heather to fix it. I believe Revolution management needs to do some explaining. I am a licensed user of the current version of enterprise. With this you have the list for developers who use Enterprise and like this list you can post messages in the same way. About a month ago I posted a message on that list and it was held back saying only list members can post. I have signed up for this list as required to access it and complained about the last message I posted. Now I am still not being provided the same benefits as other Enterprise users which was advertised as part of the purchase. Your mail to 'improve-revolution' with the subject latest beta GLx2 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post by non-member to a members-only list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/confirm/improve-revolution/f9c3614dfd9a778bb266f3ce70d7a3a61a44b4df I am posting this here since it obviously didn't work to complain before. -=JB=- -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table field text formating
IMHO Courier is the most universally available monospaced font. I like slashed zeroes to contrast with UC O's. Also the open source TruetypeProfont is severe to look at for code, but presents a great image for numbers lists. No testing on Windows - but these are long established and familiar fonts on all platforms. What is the name of the best non-proportional font to use for both windoz and Mac? It is mainly for numbers. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a non-proportional font that was proportional for just letters? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to zip a folder?
Tiemo, I've been down this road before. Check out the Linux/Unix command tar it will 'tar' together the hierarchy into one file, which then can easily be zipped. It not only preserves the files and folders in situ, but also EMPTY folders that are required to place the files in exactly the same spot. This allows dropping say, an 'update' folder on top of another foldrer and only the files that are represented in the tar folder will change in the receiving folder. Hello, is there something like revZipAddItemWithFile, with which I can zip a complete folder including files and subfolders, e.g. an app bundle? Pls tell there is a command! Thanks for help Tiemo -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for ugly code comparisons WAS: Slashdotter looking for kids' programming language
ARGHH NO! not Microsoft-speak!! Maybe we need a synonym for the ... of me - how about something like my? put my text into xx set my hilite to true etc. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution on Amazon - Please Discuss, Tag and List
They got the description wrong on enterprise: You select one operating system for development, but can deploy to all supported operating systems. cut and paste has a downside. I see this all the time. Even if you've already purchased Revolution for yourself, tagging, listing, discussing etc, these things all increase awareness of Revolution. Amazon has also launched a sort of wiki system too, called Amapedia.com. You can also participate in the Amazon associates program too and collect some percentage of the sale. Raising awareness of Rev on Amazon helps build awareness of Rev in general - your involvement would really help out. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Meaning of error codes
Bought it, got it. Thanks Mark. sqb Hi Stephen, The list of error codes is somewhere in the stack revErrorDisplay. My shareware library to convert error codes into something meaningful is called errorLib and can be found at http://economy-x-talk.com/developers.html. There is also an on-line converter, at http://www.runrev.info, but due to some hardware problems it doesn't work always. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Menu Key Accelerators
By the way, is anyone else STILL experiencing the 'accelerator keys' problem in Rev in the IDE? You know, typing command-something and not have it happen unless you go to the actual menubar or do it several times. This was reported to be fixed but it's still the same for me in 3.0, 3.5 -- Mac Leopard 10.5.5, I don't trust the a-keys in Rev at all. I always have repeat. and always look at the bar to see it flash. At 12:45 PM -0600 12/8/08, J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm apparently not running on all cylinders today. My copy/paste didn't. Here's a corrected version, after which I think I'll bow out gracefully for today: -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux Distro choices [was: Ubuntu...etc]
Well at one point I considered 'fooling around' with Linux. Not anymore. I don't have that much time to fiddle. What a tower of Babel. Peter Alcibiades wrote: Of course its a thorny issue, and it depends what you want, who you are, and what your machine is. I don't think you lose anything by moving from Ubuntu. Like many other long term Linux users, I'm a bit baffled by its popularity. I totally agree with what Peter has written. However, I have a couple of chip in's. I too never understood the popularity of Ubuntu. On old machines try Zenwalk (slackware based and uses Xfce). If this is still too slow, try a minimal Debian with fluxbox as the WM. If this is too slow, Puppy. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Meaning of error codes
I want to deal with my own error messages. Does anyone have a list of the 'official' error codes in rev 3.0? Also I remember that at one time someone on this list was offering a library for this purpose.. thanks sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rinaldi and Rev Speed wuz Re: Newbie
Totally right, Ray, got them switched. I heard John Nairn was a gardener by day and wrote that XCMD by night. True; one minor correct, though... Tom Pittman was the author of Compile-It, while John Nairn was the author of PrintReport (IIRC). Boy, that brings back memories... :-) Ken Ray -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
thanks, Neal and everyone else who responded, I couldn't forget the permissions after Andre said on the Revcon video I almost had a t-shirt made with chmod 755 in big letters so you won't forget! I still can't get a rise out of the executable, except errors. echo.mt (from Jacque's site, changed to echo.cgi) doesn't seem to respond as well as ROR not responding. I've tried the 2.9, 3.0 and 3.5 Linux 86 engines. I'll be sure to let everyone know what it is if I find it. This is basic stuff, it should work. I'm still blaming the operator here. This is the only clue in the logs: suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details, referer: http://cms3.mitchmarcusmusic.com/ There doesn't appear to be any such suexec log, at least at my security level. That kinda looks like a permission problem.. Once I get it to say hello I'm on my way. sqb Just make sure you set the execute bits (chmod +xxx .) so that it can be a program! Best wishes Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to detect a CD Drive / write permissions?
On MacOSX, perhapsdrutil can work for you Usage: drutil -drive [drive-arguments] command [command-options-and-arguments] drutil commands are: atip - Displays ATIP information about inserted CD-R/RW media. bulkerase - Bulk erases -RW media in either quick or full mode. drutil bulkerase (quick | full) burn - Burns a given file or directory to disc. drutil burn (burn-options) path cdtext - Displays CD-Text present on an audio CD. discinfo - Displays disc related info when media is present. dumpiso - Parses ISO-9660 directory structures. drutil dumpiso devnode block [format] dumpudf - Parses UDF directory structures. drutil dumpudf devnode block [format] eject - Ejects media from the drive (if any). erase - Erases -RW media in either quick or full mode. drutil erase (quick | full) filename - Translates filenames for different filesystems. drutil filename name getconfig - Displays current and supported device features and profiles. drutil getconfig (current | supported) info - Displays detailed information about connected drives. list - Lists all connected burning devices. poll - Constantly polls and displays device notifications. status - Displays detailed information about inserted media. subchannel - Displays subchannel (MCN, ISRC) info when CD media is present. toc - Displays TOC information about inserted CD media. trackinfo - Displays track related info when media is present. tray - Opens and closes drive tray, and ejects media. drutil tray (open | close | eject) version - Display the OS and DiscRecording version numbers. Hi Ken, Mac and Win. Obviously there is no native Rev function, do you have snippets how to ask the shell for it? Thank you Tiemo -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Thanks Jim, yes I checked and of course ROR has it everywhere. I did add it to the old echo.mc script ( and changed the suffix to .cgi ). I'm writing a report to DH support. I'll let everyone know how it went. sqb On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: thanks, Neal and everyone else who responded, I couldn't forget the permissions after Andre said on the Revcon video I almost had a t-shirt made with chmod 755 in big letters so you won't forget! I had a nightmare of getting a tattoo with 755 ;-) I still can't get a rise out of the executable, except errors. Does it need-ui Like the following? #!XhoutOut -ui on startup library makealert.rev end startup sims -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Thanks Richard. That's good to know. Yes, I've been looking at the logs and I always get this error: suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details, referer: http://cms3.mitchmarcusmusic.com/ I have no suexec log. the only other error is the error for not having the error page! I've sent a support ticket to the Dreamhost techs, they're pretty good about things. You're idea for the send script to and return logs is a good one. I'll incorporate that into my future cgi sandbox. By the way, doesn't FTP in Rev send passwords in plain text? How do you work around that? sqb I run Rev CGIs on Dreamhost daily. Once you find the culprit you'll have a great time. Have you checked your error.log from the server's logs folder? I write my CGIs in a simple stack I made for doing so, which has a button to upload the script so I take care of several small steps in one click. A few weeks ago I had trouble debugging a script's execution on the server, and added another button that downloads my error.log file and displays its contents - total time-saver, well worth the five minutes to set it up. The truth is out there - you just need to find where it's being reported. :) -- Richard Gaskin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rinaldi and Rev Speed wuz Re: Newbie
The speed thing is really true with Rev. When I started experimenting with Rev in late 2001 on Mac OS9, I wasted a whole lot of time worrying if my old XCMDs would run in the environment. I was just familiar with the way I always did it -- HC for the front end, XCMDs to do the heavy lifting. Then I did a little text manipulation and was amazed at how fast it was. Like many in the day, I was trying to make HC stacks function like applications, and Mr. Rinaldi gave away, for free, many, many extensions that made our stacks actually do that. I had every one. And the guy didn't even have a donation scheme. There were many other authors of XCMDs but he was the most prolific (Although looking back at Eric Chatonet's history, we see that same kind of generosity and numerous HC stacks -- I have all those too.). Of course, there were many other great products that enabled us - like Compilit, X-App, Windowscript, and Tom Pitman's PrintReport, which had features only now rivaled by Rev, 20 years later. Craig- How do you live without Rinaldi? I know that it is possible to work around anything, one always could. But I am going to miss fullFind. I haven't *seen* Rinaldi physically in about four years, but he's still lurking around these parts. I have only needed an external once in all the years I've been using Rev, and that was for a very specialized application. All the other A lot of the stuff we used to have to do with externals back in the day are now in the rev engine. And the stuff we used to put in externals for speed are now fast enough in the engine that it's now mostly no longer necessary unless you've got specialized hardware or software to talk to. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Hello Rev Nation, I was watching Andre's discussion of Rev On Rockets from the Vegas conferences, and got inspired to give it a go. It seemed so simple. It works great locally on the Mac. The hosting for me and my friends is Dreamhost, and I was certain that I heard that someone had successfully made it work there. I had saved the earliest ROR code that Andre put out a while ago, and which I tried to unsuccessfully get to work. Read the docs, placed the 2.9 x86 Linux standalone engine into the cgi-bin folder (after installing the www part of ROR into cgi-bin), set the permissions to 755, renamed Standalone to revolution (lower case), and brought up a browser looking at a subdomain I created for RevHTTP on the web. I zipped everything and used Terminal to expand in situ. Also just downloaded the newest version of Andre's code. Same thing. Errors, errors. It's obvious Rev is not being executed. Did anyone really get it to work at Dreamhost and what were the incantations? Did the aforementioned engine ever work? Will the 3.5 engine work? Should I try to go back in history and get a really old engine? I thought Rev had fixed this. Searches on the net of old list posts reveal Dan Shafer giving up in desperation and not many success stories. I'm sure it's me or my something about Dreamhost one or the other. I'm not sure they could help me unless I have some idea of what to do. This is one of two major gaps I have with rev. The other is getting SQLLite to do anything. (I work with SQL Fat every day) .. I'm off to watch Trevor's VEGAS 08 talk on just that topic. thanks, sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Hi Mark, No, ROR doesn't require RevHTTP. I'm not using that part of the demonstration. I've seen and tried that, and wanted to get it into the Apache world. I'm strictly following Andre's instructions and can't even get hello world to work. He did it in front of people and video at the last RevCon. Thanks for the thumbs up on the 3.0 engine. Perhaps I made a mistake in engine. I'll try again. thanks sqb Stephen, I've not run RoR, but I am having no problems running the 3.0 engine (Linux of course) for cgi on Dreamhost. Does RoR act as web-server? Would that mean disabling Apache? Best, Mark -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 01/01/1969 is a date = true on Mac but not on Windows?
Kind of sad that one has to go through VBScript to accomplish this. This should be trivial for Rev. WOW! This is absolutely fantastic, thanks a lot! :-) Looks like this works for english and also german dates. I tested all these variations and got true: 01/01/1969 31/01/1969 31-01-1969 31.01.1969 31.01.69 01/01/69 31/01/69 31-01-69 01/31/1969 31.1.69 Way cool! best G.Wolfgang Gaich -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Creating a PC Compatible DVD...
Buy a drive that records DVD+R if you must. But this is totally moot. Yours is not a PC/MAC issue, but a choice of blank disc formats and/or video formatting. Both disc types will play on any platform. Why not just buy quality DVD-R blanks that the mac optical drive is designed for. The +/- is usually only a factor on the record side. Also the + discs seem to be losing market share. The FORMAT of the DATA is the other factor. Usually burning programs make a PC/MAC compatible video or data disc. Making a video disc that plays everywhere is handled by video burning software like DVD studio pro or iDVD, even Toast. Also not all players are alike. Use software that targets your output needs. Often there are shareware or open source solutions like VLC that play anything. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Hi Folks... I know there is a problem creating a PC-compatible DVD on the Mac. The Mac creates a DVD-R MPEG2 file while the PC reads a DVD+R DVD. Is there an elegant solution to this with some magic piece of software or am I relegated to about a six step workaround every time I want to do this? I can't find anything searching the archives. Thanks... Jim Carwardine, -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Creating a PC Compatible DVD...
You didn't mention the parallels part, nor what it is you are trying to make, not to mention operating from the windows side. Several levels of complication here. Didn't work in XP in Parallels means that either windows,Parallels or whatever app you are using in windows lacks drivers or knowledge of your internal drive. Welcome to the PC world. If it's video, can't you just make the thing on the Mac side? Thanks, Stephen... I'm using Panasonic DVD-R blanks and they didn't work in XP in Parallels. A good brand might be any of the more expensive brands? So, if I use an expensive DVD-R with iDVD, instead of Disk Utility) I will likely get a PC compatible DVD? I can't target my audience other than to say they might not be using Vista... Jim -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Creating a PC Compatible DVD...
Don't just throw a MPEG2 file in a folder and burn; you need to set it up to be a DVD-video disk, then it will play anywhere, especially on component DVD systems. If you can make one that plays on a standard DVD video player, it should play on computers. Toast and Dragon Burn have been able to do this for years. Free software that can do the same http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/ Well... I guess I scared myself when it wouldn't work in Parallels... I have a DVD that was already burned on a PC that I want to dupe. I have an Intel MacBook running 10.5.5 on which I duped the DVD using Disk Utility. I tried the new DVDs in Parallels running XP to see if they would read and they didn't. When I looked on the Internet I found the issues around DVD-R vs DVD+R as well as the issues around MPEG2 not being readable on most PCs. I didn't find much consensus on a Mac solution... I assumed, correctly or not, that if the DVDs did not work on Parallels then in all likelihood they would not work on any PC. I'm preparing to send the duped DVDs to a prospective client who is located in another city and I don't want them to call me to say they couldn't read the DVDs... Of course the easy way is to take them downtown and have a service dupe the original but I want to do it on my Mac, to prove a point if nothing else... -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: USB barcode scanner?
Timothy , Most of the bar code devices operate like a keyboard input device out of the box as a straight barcode scanner (i.e. outputs a translation of the barcode in text), others have features like storage where the scanner does not have to be tethered to the computer, can dump later, Wifi, etc. Most of them won't mention the Mac, even though everybody's conforming to standards. So don't let the PC part deter you, unless you need software to do more than recognize IPC symbols. It appears your scripts will do the rest. It's interesting in the peripherals world, when often many USB and Firewire devices built to standards, are sold with no reference to Macintosh at all in the ads and packaging, even though they work perfectly (and often install without drivers) and are a significant part of their sales are to mac customers. This is especially true of hard drives and network routers. Incredibly ignorant of the marketers if you ask me, and a wasted opportunity. I used to be an annoying Mac Evangelist (remember those?) when we felt we had to fight every fight against the PC 'hegemony', or we'd be stuck with the alternative in the future. Today, Apple's strong, hip, visionary, and makes solid products these days that sell themselves, so I don't have to do that anymore. I think Jacque was on the Evangelists list, or was it Mac Marines? It was a while ago. Over 20 years of mail-lists. The mind boggles. Hello! Can anybody recommend a usb barcode scanner that I can get to work with rev? I using rev 2.81 and a Mac. I've got my POS app working nicely now and it's time for the next step...adding a scanner. Thanks! Best Regards, Timothy R. Ponn -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jan Schenkel's merge tutorials
At 1:51 PM + 11/24/08, Phil Jimmieson wrote: The ideal would be if Rev could save the images as RTF directly, alternatively, if the RTFText could at least contain a reference or Here's some food for thought: Without pouring through the RFCs right now, I don't' think the original RTF standard alone allows for images integrated with text, but Apple's little TextEdit app can save .rtfd documents, which do. RTFD is just another apple folder as bundle with two files inside. Pasted Graphic.tiff TXT.rtf If one control-drags the bundle, one can look inside. It looks like this code could be hacked just as easily, using graphics tags. Looking at this might be interesting on both platforms. The question is, will it diplay on PCs? On a PC of course the bundle will just look like a folder in the Windows world. But the files are next to each other and simply referenced in the rtf. My guess is that Word could read these, just go inside and read the rtf document, perhaps the new PC Word 2010 is hip enough to recognize an Apple bundle. An aside to the .rtfd suffix -- back in the mid-late-80's when I was first working with HC, I was writing a lot of software for people around a recording studio, and I had created a couple of special file formats. I got the studio signed on to the developer program at Apple (a friend of mine knew Chris Espanosa from childhood) and as a developer, found out about the file type registration system, you know, the four-letter code that get imbedded in the files using the FILETYPE command in rev. The creator type I registered was BARN The filetypes I registered were RTFD and RTFB. shoud I sue? :) (this is probably the first time and the last time I have ever used a smiley) I still connect it with Have a Nice Day from the 70's, which today means Drop Dead. The ideal would be if Rev could save the images as RTF directly, alternatively, if the RTFText could at least contain a reference or comment to say that an image is present, that would be useful (then I'd have to roll my own image to RTF code). At the moment, there's no sign in the RTF at all that there are images in the field. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: htmlText and returns in a variable
pbla bla/p html don't care about returns. What do I need to script to make each item appear on its own line? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Flow Chart Software Project
here's one I found in google images http://blogs.sun.com/draks/resource/MacLogo.jpg here are many http://images.google.com/images?um=1hl=ensafe=offclient=safarirls=en-usq=mac+logobtnG=Search+Images Hi Sarah, I sent in the papers for that logo a long time ago, but never heard back from Apple. I'm not really looking for something that implies, I am looking for an OS X logo. Thank you for the name suggestion. I've put it on the list. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Flow Chart Software Project
sorry. Those are the wrong ones. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Confused
Hi Joe, Try using a full path to the files, rather than the uncertainty of a partial path. It's easy to generate a whereAmI() function. and create it and add on the fly to combine with the desired file name. sqb Then the application should have the source for the players as: /MusicFolder/Music1.aiff -- and so forth But this doesn't work. Am I all wet someway? TIA, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Confused
FUNCTION whereAmI get the effective filename of me set the itemdelimiter to / delete last item of it return it END whereAmI Hi Stephen, So you create a path and then assign that path to the players' source property? Haven't used a function to find out whereAmI, but guess a little rooting around in Rev will not be too difficult. That's when I learn new things. I thought the method I was proposing was fool-proof. guess not. If that is the case, what property do you initially assign to the players? Or can you just leave it empty? Thanks, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I'm sorry but ..... !
Not to mention the non-green aspect of printing hundreds of single sided pages. (most people don't have the time to figure out the machinations needed to print on both sides.) The price Rev charges for the manual is around what it will cost to get a pdf of that length printed. The dictionary is probably quite a bit less. Bit of a bargain really. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Conference DVD anyone already received?
I've been told by Heather that they're 'on the way' sent by the Royal Post. sqb Still waiting. Jim On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, did anyone receive the Conference DVD already? It´s now about 3 weeks after the Shippingadress confirmaton email. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone error
Use application browser from the Tools menu sqb Hi Mark (if this indeed gets back to you), I selected the Turn on View UI Elements in View menu but did not see any noticeable changes anywhere in the pull down menus. I do not know where the look for the cREVStandalone custom property set where it could be selected or deleted. Under the Stack Inspector I found a selection for property where it simply listed MASTER as a sole choice. I must be looking in the wrong place. Could you lead this blind man thru the moves? Thanks for responding. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hi, I'm new and i need help
Hello, Leonel perhaps you are our first Revolutionary from the island nation CUBA!! Welcome aboard! Apparently the US-sanctioned 'embargo' doesn't include the Internet. Fantastico! sqb Hi, As you can see I'm new on this list. and my first question is What is the deference between RunTime Revolution Enterprice Studio Media. Well, I'm happy to be here and thanks. -- Datos Personales: Provincia: Cienfuegos. Municipio: Cumanayagua Tel?: 7496 -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Gradient Pane
Yes, I love the gradient feature. If you haven't yet -- check out the fillGradient property. It's a style property and uses the 3.0 multi layer property structure. It's actually a property set, with lists of lists inside. One can actually set most of the gradient parameters of a graphic object by set the fillGradient of graphic B to the fillgradient of graphic A I can imagine someone will be making a tool to get further into control of this object. For instance the the only way to 'get at' the list of gradient stops is by script: fillGradient[ramp] A return delimited list of gradient stops (see below) that define the layout of the of the gradient. A gradient stop is a comma is a comma delimited list of numbers that specify the following values: position- number between 0 and 1 red, green, blue- numbers between 0 and 255 alpha - number between 0 (transparent) and 255 (opaque), if omitted it is assumed to be 255. A simple iTunes-like ramp would be described like this: 0.01389,195,200,174 0.98610,252,253,230 there's a lot of stuff in here! As it turns out, the built-in gradients open up new avenues of gui and gauge design. I just spent the afternoon getting to know the new Gradient Pane and reproduced a GUI sample from online. The result? I am very happy with the gradients and especially with the blending of highlights and shadows and borders and fills. WOW this really makes creating gradients a great part of my tool set. I used to have to go straight to Photoshop and back again but now these gradients are really possible in RR and fully scriptable to boot. Very impressed. Demo Skin on left and Revolution skin on the right. (Other than the OS specific controls the Revolution one is awesome.) http://gallery.me.com/mcgrath3#100236/Picture-2033bgcolor=black Tom McGrath III -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: itunes alternating lines
It doesn't look cheesy. that do this. Hard for me to believe we still don't have this capability without jumping through hoops and even then it seems like it might look cheesy. Jeeez. sims -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [TIP] How to ensure plain pasted text
How would this particular menu item and its script magically be created in an app? I'm sure your handler will come in useful, but out of interest, would the Edit menu item Paste Unformatted not take care of many of the cases? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [TIP] How to ensure plain pasted text
I know that, but it's useless when one has custom menus in the app. Hi Stephen, If you've copied something, paste unformatted is already in the Edit Menu of 3.0s IDE. Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: difference between function and command and sending parameters
look up start using in the docs. After this is done the stack is available to the current stack and all others running at the time. Comments: The start using command places a stack's script into the message path after the current stack and before any objects in the backScripts. When you start using a stack, the libraryStack message is sent to the stack. When a standalone application is running, it can insert up to fifty stacks into the stacksInUse. This limit is set by line 3 of the scriptLimits function. When using the development environment, you can insert any number of stacks into the message path. I meant by bg script the script of the default stack which is the one you can call functions and commands from without trouble (maybe there should be a short cut name for it). I thought of another more complex way, go around setting the default stack but I remember trying it and getting in-consistent results. Thanks for helping with the description of get value -- you don't see it used very often in example scripts. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 3 Script Editor
Scott, are you talking about colornames()? Two questions about the new script editor: 1) In older versions, it was possible to colorize scripts with one's own color scheme by using choosing colors from a text menu and applying them anywhere. Can this be done with Rev 3? 2) Is there any way to change the degree of indenting? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 3 Script Editor
sorry, I think I misread the posting... sqb Two questions about the new script editor: 1) In older versions, it was possible to colorize scripts with one's own color scheme by using choosing colors from a text menu and applying them anywhere. Can this be done with Rev 3? 2) Is there any way to change the degree of indenting? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: new macbooks, no firewire
Apple has furthered the divide between MacBook and Pro. The new MacBook Pro does have one firewire 800 port. More ports can be added via plugin card. For recording, I have to do that anyway for throughput. Hi Andre, Having a few moments to spare I took a look at Apple's new MacBooks. Mixed feelings. I think I'll need to see and touch to make a valid judgement. I too have eye problems, so the contrast may be good for me, but I'm a desktopper anyway, and probably won't be buying anything new for quite a while. Certainly the firewire thing is a major turnoff. I somewhat recently purchased two 500 GB firewires and can't imagine using USB for any major transfers. Time Machine with USB. Ha! Ha! By and large I think your comments are on the mark. We may all be back to bows and arrows before too long anyway. (sigh!) Joe Wilkins On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Folks, sometimes I do OT mails here, but this is just to ask if you guys followed the latest announcements by apple and saw their new macbooks. I must say, I have never ever been so disapointed at apple. I found the new macbooks as ugly as a traffic accident between an elephant and a pizza delivery car. What's with the black borders and keyboards on aluminum?!?! what happened, did they fired their designers? -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: new macbooks, no firewire
The macbook pro has an expresscard port, a firewire 800 port, two USB ports and some kind of mini-dvi connector. I hate the expresscard fomat. It seems to be made for viewing photo memory cards or something -- the mechanical design is very stupid. When one pushes the card in, it doesn't latch, and can be pulled out quite easily with an accidental tug of a cable. My high tech solution was to wrap one layer of drafting tape around the outside, to jam the card in place. They guys at the apple store confirmed it is ALL expresscard devices are like this. Hello Stephen, where do we put a plugin card on a macbook? Is this an expresscard firewire thingy? Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table inspector from 4W
I'd rather have the rev team work on a new table control and a revised text field. On OWhy doesn't the Rev team take some of these examples and build a flexible field that everyone can use. I have heard many people mention they want to have the fields improved so it is obvious it would be wise economically to provide both new and existing Rev customers what they want. -=JB=- ___ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Paint Tool periodic crashes
Yeah, what he said. Besides, GLX isn't 'merely' an add-on, it's an IDE. Maybe it's not the problem. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.glx2.com -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated
I would very much like to know what kind of error dialog you get and which operations could not be cancelled. as I said, the IDE doesn't like the imbedded substack with the name Answer Dialog. The custom dialog just needs another name. The support code is trivial. Also the code doesn't recognize cancel from file dialogs -- deletes image and there is no cancel button on a couple of the dialogs. The dialog for amount of 'tile routine' effect for one. I'd rather not hack the IDE to bypass what to me looks like a valuable protection mechanism. Rev demands control of its namespaces at this time, and I just avoid them entirely. Someday, Namespaces! Also hacking the IDE is impractical for me, as I adopt the latest betas and updates as they come out the hopper. And I'm sure many of you like the good old Metacard IDE, but it didn't speak to me. again, thanks for your work. One of the already known issues is the unfriendliness of the Rev IDE towards customized answer and ask dialogs. On the one hand among the (once) praised features of Metacard and Revolution was -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Twofold posting of mail
The stack is awesome! I've spent several hours with it... One note: no way to cancel out of some operations and the IDE was complaining about an Answer Dialog already existing... but it's wonderful. Lots of lessons here. sqb Sorry for the fact that my last post concerning the Seamless Tiles stack was sent twice. There were problems with the mail service of our university server. -- Wilhelm Sanke www.sanke.org/MetaMedia -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Totally OT - I need some heads up (and a hug or two)
Hey Malte, Here's a hug from San Francisco.. Very sorry for your machine and data loss. I live in fear of such a scenario.. I am so paranoid about losing stuff.. 1) work from home, and I'm always here (hermit?) 2) Time machine is always running, 2nd 500g drive in the G5 3) Bootable backups of main machine using Foldersynchronizer every week -- my projects are completely contained in a MacOSX .app package, 'splash screen' --and I work on the stacks in situ ; in place. 4) I use Touch every day on the .app package 5) Project .app package with all scripts and resources uploaded to local server every day 6) I have a handler in my development sandbox that tars, then zips the .app package, then uploads to a directory at dreamhost. I call this every day. Still, with all of this, I've had panic moments, losing a stack I worked on all day that didn't have it's own file, somehow got detached and lost in space (substacks... not anymore). I looked everywhere for quite a while until I found a stack that I had forgotten I had saved. sqb Hi all, today is the worst day in my self employment life. I arrived at the office today, just to learn that everything apple branded is gone. Stolen. Away. Malte -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages? and flipbook
on preopencard constant kOkcards aCard,bCard,Barncard get the short name of me if it is among the items of kOkCards then -- doodah end if end preopencard Handle the preOpenCard message to update a card's appearance before the card appears on screen. Hi: Thanks for all the ideas. However, I can't find a go to next card message. I wanted to trap it so that a user could flip thru the cards, but if it is one I don't want them to see, like a prefs card, then I could skip that one and go to the one after it. Maybe I'm on the wrong track? Also, I would like a user to click a button on the first card and have the cards automatically present themselves at a certain time interval rate, and write the last location the mouse was at on that card to a field on that card before leaving. Is that possible? I couldn't find a flipbook type stack to inspect. Any ideas are appreciated, m Rev also has a function the commandnames which you can execute to get a list, which you can place in a field. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages? and flipbook
Left off the equals sign: constant kOkcards = aCard,bCard,Barncard constant kOkcards aCard,bCard,Barncard -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
did you put the actual characters within quotes in the script set the itemdelimiter to or use numToChar() I would always use the latter - script editors don't like some non-printing characters imbedded in a script, sometimes even within quotes. I have a stack where I use some non-printable ascii chars as delimiters (specifically, ascii 30 and 29). This stack worked fine on the Windows and Linux versions of 3.0 (well, until they crashed or went berserk, but everyone's tired of that story). However, when I moved the stack over to OS X (ppc), the application stopped working. Upon investigation it turned out that the delimiters had swapped - they were now ascii 222 and 218. Is that to be expected? Nothing else in the stacks seems amiss, and I'm puzzled by this. I had seen some strange behaviour copying them between platforms. When copied by scp, the stacks were corrupted, but copied fine by ftp binary. When copied by ftp as ascii, opening them crashed Rev 3.0 on OS X. It's not a big deal, but I suppose it might be a gotcha worth noting for anyone else who uses non-printable ascii chars as delimiters. Bernard -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange char translation from intel to ppc
That should be numToChar(30) -- did you put the actual characters within quotes in the script set the itemdelimiter to or use numToChar() I would always use the latter - script editors don't like some non-printing characters imbedded in a script, sometimes even within quotes. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Visible and extra monitors.
Perhaps you haven't seen the movie the Big Lebowski. It explains all about the 'Dude'. : I come from the North-East of Scotland. Frankly 'Dude' sounds like 'Dud'. However, the point about SCREENRECTS was more important. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the icon found in address bar in browser
Some clever revDude could hack out a conversion -- .ico's are only 16x16 (uncompressed?) 1. screenscrape the html of the page for the first .ico file 2. get the file as binary 3. figure out where the headers, jump tables are, the standards for ico are out there I'm sure 4. convert to imagedata so few pixels that it could be done easily in rev... At 10:54 AM -0400 9/29/08, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Does anyone know how to capture/get the icon found before the http text in the address bar in most web browsers? I want to get this via script in Revolution in a text field. I believe that it's always favicon.ico. So for example the one for runrev would be: http://www.runrev.com/favicon.ico if they had one. The one for Adobe is: http://www.adobe.com/favicon.ico Apple's: http://www.apple.com/favicon.ico Unity3D's: http://unity3d.com/favicon.ico and so on. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
Joe, How on earth did you get ANY version of system 9, let alone 9.2.2 on a Mac classic? The highest rated OS for the Classic is 7.5.5. I don't think there's enough RAM in a Classic for 9.2.2 (4 mb). sqb Hey guys and gals, I just downloaded 2.6.1, transferred it to my Classic Mac running 9.2.2 and it constantly crashes and takes me into Macsbug. Anything special needed to run this ancient critter? Suggestions or obvious caveats welcome. TIA, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.6.1 build Help needed
At 5:10 PM -0700 9/29/08, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: I downloaded a brand new zip of 2.6.1 from RunRev on line. On unzipping it with Stuffit on my Classic mac, I misinterpreted Classic Mac as Mac Classic (Hardware, 9 screen) --- (hey it's possible to have one, but you can't run Rev on it). 9.2.2 ROCKS on a G4 you can boot from AND in Classic. The best and last build of system 9. A Mac Classic is pretty much for macho collectors, but one can still run 7.6.1 and use a SE 30 as an SMTP serverha ha Hi Stephen, I've been running 9.2.2 on a G4 a VERY long time. A little bit slow by today's standards, but it was my workhorse for years and years. Ooops! only 9.2.1. I thought I had upgraded it, but apparently not. (smile) I did increase the RAM to 768 MB, however, along with 30 and 60 GB hard drives. And it has the monster big Apple Display CRT. Got a hernia every time I moved it around. About 5 years ago, it went down on me and I had to pay Apple $500 to fix it - no AppleCare. But that's the only things I've ever had go bad in 22-23 years with Macs. Joe Wilkins (Maybe I should knock on wood?) -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: Reloading a changed stack file
The application browser needs to be manually refreshed for the latest info. Look for a little icon at the bottom of the scrollbar that will refresh the list. After checking all the versions of my stacks, I opened the Application Browser and the only stacks showing were ones that had actually had some code run. I was under the impression that merely getting custom property from a stack caused it to be loaded into memory but since it doesn't show, what exactly would revert revert to? Also, the documentation on the revert command says that it only applies to the current stack. Since these stacks are not showing up in the application browser, if I later issue a start using stack xyz will it use the copy that is hidden in RAM, or will it reload a fresh copy from the hard disk? len morgan -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Object Reference in Variable?
Hey Scott... put the long id of field 1 into tField long id of field 1 of stack WHAT?? sometime this stuff needs to be addressed more clearly for the engine especially from the message box. I mess this up all the time. I just assume the engine 'knows' what I want! Hey List Folks: I'm having trouble remembering how to get Rev to see object references in variables, as opposed to the variable data. For example, if I script: put the long id of field 1 into tField put the number of lines of tField I'll get '1' in the message box regardless of how may lines field 1 contains. I could have sworn there was a way to get this work without using do or using the text of tField. Is my memory faulty? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ftp.runrev.com gone?
Richard FTP site is empty now like you said available only by web page now (security?) http://runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ (not that easily found) no engines separate except the Unix ones. I just tried ftp://ftp.runrev.com/. No go. Did they recently pull FTP access to the latest engine? -- Richard Gaskin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
conference videos
Anyone know what happened to the videos from the RunRev conference? This year. I paid for them when the first announcement came out, then got an email saying it would be delayed for an unspecified time. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Free Images for your GUI
Richmond, the problem is that you INVITE people to download, give them a link, and then without further forewarning or explanation, expect them to 'JOIN' Yahoo Groups to download. Scolding potential visitors about not knowing about how Yahoo works doesn't help. I know when I see a link on this list and the offer of something, I'd rather something to be there without further protocol. If not, I have to seriously consider forgetting about it. Rev makes their stuff readily available, as does Richard, Skipp, Jerry, and Ken. What's the big deal? Some people don't like to bother with 'JOINING' yet another forum, with passwords, etc. It's a hassle, a little one, for sure, but if you want more people to download and comment about your stuff, then perhaps you could make it easy. You must have a web server or ftp site somewhere... [I see MESSAGES about images. I see no actual images or links to download. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 3.0 Array Diffs
Here's Trevor's white paper on the new arrays. http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/july/issue53/newsletter1.php I KNOW I have somebody's discussion of all the things that were done to arrays in 3.0 somewhere. However one of them (https://mail.google.com/a/altuit.com/#label/Use-Revolution) comes up for me requesting a username and password. Is the only major change the multi-dimensional aspect? I thought there were other improvements as well. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Port Number for MYSQL - using MAMP
Quick question. I've been using a local MySQL distribution on my machine (G5 dual tower running 10.5.5) and it's worked ok . It was harder on Leopard to install (had to 'make' it) but I've worried about dealing with it in the future and at the current time, I can't shut it down, the server control panel doesn't work. In the meantime Jim Alt turned me on to MAMP, a virtualized Apache server in an app. I've gotten it to work with Navicat, which has a field in the connect panel to select the PORT for MySQL. I think that proves that the two MySQLs don't conflict with each other. In Rev, I use Trevor's library to access RevDB. It has worked well with the MySQL installation that I installed in Leopard. However, with MAMP, I need to specify the port, which on the default MAMP setup is 8889. According to the docs, RevDB doesn't appear to have a separate PORT parameter, however one can append the port to the host parameter, like localhost:8889 However, this doesn't seem to be working. Anyone successfully used MAMP's MySQL with Rev ? -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A bit OT: handling multiple users in DB
MySQL will do what you want. It's a black box to store an manupulate data. Most of the time the transactions are so fast, it doesn't matter. In the case of mySQL, it's multi user by design and if one is really worried about it, there's COMMIT and ROLLBACK. SQL Lite is not multi-user. Hi all, this is a bit off topic, but maybe someone can give me some helpful hints. Is someone of you working with databases with multiple users? If yes, how do you handle concurrent transactions? I mean how do you solve the possible overwriting of data when both users work with cursors and are allowed to update data and how do you update a cursor (on the fly?) when its data may have been updated? Know what I mean? I searched the net and found some hints, but maybe you have some really clever solutions that you are willing to share :-) Thanks in advance! Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making Real Stack invisible
Just remember the naming rules apply for custom properties as they do for variables. Don't use a word that is used in the Rev environment. Joe, I'd suggest you read Dan Shafer's Scripting conference stack on the topic of custom properties , perhaps you'll look at the whole set. http://support.runrev.com/scriptingconferences/ On 22/09/08 at 01:24 -0700 Joe Lewis Wilkins apparently wrote: Thanks for your suggestions, Terry, I still haven't wrestled with the concept of custom property yet. It seems to be very useful, but I've yet to spend enough time with it to understand what it really is. Something like a pointer in other I would second the suggestion to store the initial user stack as a custom property and install it in a location appropriate for application support files on any given platform. It is a better solution than making that file initially invisible, less prone to user-level problems. Custom properties are nothing more than storage spots within your stack. Nothing really scary there. They are sort of like variables which are permanently attached to some object within stack (or the stack itself) and thus saved with the stack. The name is not the most fortunate but it reflects the fact that the usage syntax is parallel to normal properties of objects and they are often used to store additional, yeah, custom, properties needed by a given program. Robert _ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quit Application Menu item problem
Once again, the docs are your friend: on shutdownRequest -- confirm with the user: answer question Are you sure you want to quit? with Yes or No if it is Yes then pass shutdownRequest -- allow to quit end shutdownRequest Handle the shutdownRequest message if you want to prevent the user from quitting the application. Hi Gang, Don't know if this is a new issue with 3.0 or not, but when I insert an answer dialog in the Quit menu item, it does not get implemented either in the IDE or the standalone when transfered to the Application Menu. I know I've forgotten something here, but haven't the foggiest notion as to what that may be. TIA, Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quit Application Menu item problem
I agree, it should be called quitRequest. Shut down to me means shutting down the computer. I can't tell you how scared I was at first of something called destroystack in Transcript, (er...Revolution). Thanks, Stephen. Dictionary describes it, but not found in the User Guide when search for Shutdown is done, or even Quit where it tells you something, but doesn't explain the shutdownRequest concept which is needed by most I would think. Joe Wilkins On Sep 22, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Once again, the docs are your friend: on shutdownRequest -- confirm with the user: answer question Are you sure you want to quit? with Yes or No if it is Yes then pass shutdownRequest -- allow to quit end shutdownRequest Handle the shutdownRequest message if you want to prevent the user from quitting the application. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: on controlkeydown very slow
Not sure what you're trying to do here, but I'm assuming that you're experimenting with some rev parts in your lab stack. Answer is not so great for testing -- slow-- in this case as it launches a new stack every time (the Answer Stack in the IDE). Why not just use the message box or a field to show state for now? Also see the Save command in the docs. Much better than trying to use save in the IDE like the old domenu in HC. You have direct script access through scripting. If you are working toward making a 'real' application, then you should know that very few menu items will be in the menubar unless you add them (not even QUIT!!), you can't count on the IDE menu items being there in a standalone. Again, I can't say enough about the Scripting Conferences stacks that are online that cover many areas and given by the 'whos who' of the Rev world and hosted by Jacqueline Landman Gay. There's a great stack about MENUS there by Jeanne DeVoto. http://support.runrev.com/scriptingconferences/ I'm doing the following and it is slow (takes a noticeable second or two) *on* controlKeyDown pKey *switch* pKey *case* s answer s was selected *break* *case* c *answer* c was selected *break* *end* *switch* *end* controlKeyDown Also it doesn't work if you have the cursor in the message box or maybe some other places. But RunRev's own command key S (which saves stack) happens instantly and it doesn't matter if the cursor is in the message box or anywhere. Any ideas how to get this to work more like the native stuff. I'm not trapping keys anywhere else. It is version 3.0 -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Text and not text in a string
Actually the ¬ (which I myself have used for centuries) has been diminished in favor of \. The ¬ is not cross-platform it's there for backward compatibility with imported HC scripts. It's not even in the dictionary anymore. Two more ways ... easier readability to use the continuation ¬ character [ option-L on the Mac ] if (Internet is in tString) ¬ and not(Work is in tString) ¬ and not(Home is in tString) then do this end if - if (Internet is in tString) and ¬ not(Work is in tString or Home is in tString) then do this end if -- Jim Ault Las Vegas -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies
It's not a list! It's an array. It's not THE NUMBER OF LINES in myArray. it's the number of lines in the KEYS of myArray. Big difference. I'll build a silly array here: set the itemdelimiter to comma put Jefferson,Washington,Lincoln,Bush,Elvis into historyList repeat with n = 1 to number of items in historyList put item n of historyList into myArray[n] end repeat Same as : 1) put the keys of myarray into tKeys 2) put number of lines in temp into tArrayLines Once again, you can't directly put an array into a field to see the elements. It needs to be 'disassembled', element by element This is expected behavior. You make a list by rotating through each key, either manually put myArray [1] return into toadMeatList put myArray [2] return after toadMeatList put myArray [5] after toadMeatList RESULTS-- 1tabJefferson 2tab Washington 5tab Elvis or in a regular loop put 1,2,5 into orderList repeat with n = 1 to numLines put myArray[n] return after toadMeatList end repeat RESULTS-- 1tabJefferson 2tab Washington 5tab Elvis or using combine combine myArray with return tab RESULTS-- 1tabJefferson 2tabWashington 3tabLincoln 4tabBush 5tabElvis From: william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies Thanks again. I'm still curious about the array. When I use the number of lines in myArray I get the correct answer 1 before I send it out of the function as myArray but when I do the same number of lines in myArray after it is called then the answer is 0. If I ask for one key in the array (as myArray[1] ) and return that it works as expected. I understand that the contents of the array are invisible until I ask for one of the keys. But it still wasn't working as expected. I think Jim's suggestion might be better as the list of data elements can be handed back and it will work as I expect. It was fun to play with the array and I'm surprised that it doesn't return in the function like a list would as in my mind I think of the array as a list. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies
The results in examples 1 and 2 were incorrect. put myArray [1] return into toadMeatList put myArray [2] return after toadMeatList put myArray [5] after toadMeatList RESULTS-- Jefferson Washington Elvis or in a regular loop put 1,2,5 into orderList repeat with n = 1 to numLines put myArray[n] return after toadMeatList end repeat RESULTS-- Jefferson Washington Elvis It's not a list! It's an array. It's not THE NUMBER OF LINES in myArray. it's the number of lines in the KEYS of myArray. Big difference. I'll build a silly array here: ___ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies
You've practically designed it!
Arrays are your friend.
{ below not tested}
function yourFunction arrayVar
put Timestamp tab FDSFSDF into myArray[garbage]
put toad into myArray[green]
return myArray
end yourFunction
put yourFunction() into Array
combine array with return and tab
put Array
--
garbagetab20080923tabFDSFSDF
greentabtoad
To get the number of elements in an array:
number of lines in myArray
even better ( I love this one - think binary):
repeat for each line tKey in the keys of tArray
put tArray[tKey] return after tArrayContents
end repeat
to sort:
put the keys of myArray into myVariable
sort lines of myVariable
I'm having trouble sorting this out. I have a function that searches through
lines of tab delimited text. The number of lines varies from one to ten. The
result from the search is two things. A data element and a pointer that says
which kind of data element. Sometimes the result is one data element and one
pointer and sometimes the result is another quantity like three data
elements each with their identifier. To have this returned by the function
it seems I need an array. I'm inexperienced at using arrays but I imagine
that you just build it in the function and that is what is returned and then
the identifiers for each data element are the keys and it makes no
difference how many lines are in the array? Perhaps I also return a counter
which says how many lines of data are in the array?
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Re: returning result from a function when the number of items in the result varies
HEY! that's not fair to the arrays. :) They REALLY are useful and amazing. Honestly, once you have you're aha moment you'll understand it. Your code is working as expected. For now, Just imagine the array to be a package of little ordinary variables that can be easily manipulated. put array into fld output-- won't be seen You can't see an array when put it - it's still there but you can't put it into anything except another array (or save it as a custom property) put array into array2 set the customproperty[myarray] of this stack to array If you want to see the elements you gotta take it apart. combine does that. combine with return and tab which turns the array into a single text string or the repeat for each line tKey in the keys of array put tKey return after tOut end repeat put tOut for some reason in my function if I say return myArray then I get an array with zero lines even when that is not true. If I say return myArray[1] (where 1 is one of the keys which has data in the array) then it does return that correctly but just with that one line of course. This is why I hate arrays. It is not working like I expected. On 9/20/08, william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for not only answering but giving me the example. The repeat for each line in the array will work perfectly. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Free Images
I don't see any files or links available at this URL. Just to remind you good folks that there are FREE images up for grabs at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RMimages/?yguid=254544547 and I am adding to them on an, almost, daily basis just at the moment. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Free Images
ok, never mind then. Thanks. At 7:13 AM -0700 9/19/08, Stephen Barncard wrote: I don't see any files or links available at this URL. I was confused too, but I think it's a group that you have to join in order to see the pictures. There are 7 members already. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Layer Tools plugin (beta)
Thanks for this, Chipp. This is incredibly useful, and should be a part of the IDE. It's in my plugins folder. Updated to fix a field scrolling problem and minor other tweaks. Never found the problem on the Mac william described. If anyone else gets a chance, please test on Mac and let me know. to access: Just type into your msg box (or cut and paste) then run: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev; -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev on iPhone/iPod Touch ??
Fooey on Toolbook. One can make web apps look exactly like an iPhone app now. check this out: http://ajaxian.com/archives/iphone-native-looking-skin I adapted a test to work on my site: http://barncard.com/iPhone/test.html#_tune_in it would be easy to use Rev to make up these. I see that the latest version of ToolBook is pushing its ability to deliver to the iPhone iPod Touch. Have a look at: http://by106w.bay106.mail.live.com/mail/InboxLight.aspx?n=1390091929 Any comments on the same ability of Rev ?? Has anybody done any work with interfaces or come up with an iPhone simulator to test stacks? best, Bob... _ ___ -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Anyone know how to read Palm pdb dbs?
http://ice-book-reader-professional.en.softonic.com/ ?? My Dad's Treo died and there's no way to get sync it with his computer. I was able to get his contacts off of it onto a SD card, but I don't have anyway of moving it out of the native pdb format spec. Turns out there's binary data mixed in with the rest (pictures for contacts)-- which I don't really need/want. But, I would like to be able to get the rest of the contact info. I seem to remember a pdb reader lib running around awhile back, but my Gmane searches don't show any links. Any help is much appreciated! -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List to checkboxes how to?
Does this method work faster than using a background? Whenever you want to set the state of the checkbox, do this: set the imagesource of char 1 of line line number of fld list to imgID The imgID variable is the ID of the correct image, checked or unchecked. Your scripts can determine whether the line is checked or not by simply reading the imagesource of the first character of the line, which will be the ID of the appropriate image. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zipping an application package by script
The winner isT A R in the shell() put /Users/sb/Desktop/200809070038/ into ToBeZippdFolder put /Users/sb/Desktop/testPlace/ archive.tar into tarredfolder put shell( tar -cf tarredfolder ToBeZippdFolder ) into fld output success! This works wonderfully. Thanks Brian Yennie and Jim Ault, Richard Gaskin, Thomas McGrath III, Mark Talluto and Terry Judd. This list rocks. Thanks for being around, guys when I get stupid. 1. I got the hack with Automator to work, kinda, but hated the way it looked. Cheesy. Automator is great if used alone, but ... and I couldn't figure out how to pass parameters to it. So what it does would change if its location would change - it was hard wired. Move the package and it breaks. 2. My problems with tar were about reversing the parameters AND fixing that and reversing the definitions. Got it right now plus fixed the typos. 3. Sorry, Trevor, I couldn't get your 'all in Rev' code to work yet in 3.0 as Rev crashed immediately* on calling it and have not gotten down to debugging it yet. Shouldn't be that hard to check out; it's all well written and self-documented. This would still be useful to me in creating an archive with a list or partial contents. I mean poof! all gone! 4. Zip from the shell is worthless to me, just checking again. It can't pack identical filenames, even ones with different paths. Which is one reason to use folders in the first place. put /Users/sb/Desktop/200809070038/ into ToBeZippdFolder put /Users/sb/Desktop/testPlace/ archive.zip into tarredfolder put shell( zip -r -jj tarredfolder ToBeZippdFolder ) into fld output zip warning: first full name: /Users/sb/Desktop/200809070038/55.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/.DS_Store zip warning: second full name: /Users/sb/Desktop/200809070038/.DS_Store zip warning: name in zip file repeated: .DS_Store zip error: Invalid command arguments (cannot repeat names in zip file) Is is possible that you reversed the parameters? The tar output file comes first, then the remaining parameters are files / folders to include. tar -cf MyApplication.app MyApplication.tar = tar: MyApplication.app: Cannot open: Is a directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar -cf MyApplication.tar MyApplication.app = success! -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zipping an application package by script
Thanks very much, Jim Ault, Richard Gaskin, Brian Yennie and Terry Judd. Among your suggestions I'm sure I find something that works. I'll report tomorrow on my results. this list rocks... Would this work for your needs? 1) tar and zip it tar -c -z -f MyApplication.tar.gz MyApplication.app 2) unzip it later tar -xzf MyApplication.tar.gz HTH, Brian -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
