Re: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question

2014-03-02 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
I use Ubuntu Linux 12.04LTS as my default OS, but I also use Win7 on 
dual-booting laptops.  I never had Linux run hotter than Windows when 
it is installed onto the drive.  I also do not use the thin laptops, 
but the thicker ones that have more fan space and size to remove the 
heat better. Tell me, what do you use to see the CPU temps in Linux?  
What do you use for Windows?  I use Speedfan for Windows and have not 
found much to really see actually temps in Linux, but by feeling the 
heat from the surface of the laptops, it never gets as hot as 
Windows.  Both laptops are dual core and the main desktop is a quad with 
the others dual and single cores.




As for the User Profile issue,  I would get it setup as you want it to 
be and then make a backup of it.  That way you do not have to start 
from scratch.


I do not customize as much as you do, just add a dictionary [or two] and 
add a larger color choice option for backgrounds, borders, text, etc..


I really think that getting your setup into a backup and using it when 
you crash due to a corrupted file would be most helpful. As for the 
compatibility of the Windows profile/config to Linux, well I do not know 
much about what each file does either.


For Win7 to Win7 systems, I think it taking a specific set of file in 
the user profile and copying it over to a new system would work.  Which 
are the needed files, I do not know.  Maybe using the whole User 
folder would work transfered over to the new systems.


Question:  What type of [and how many] screen colors and keyboard 
assignments/modifications do you set up for your system?  What are you 
using them for?  We always like to know what LO is being used for and 
what our users are doing with it to make their workflow flow better.  
I know of a SciFi-Fantacy writer who switched to Linux and now LO to 
write his 1 to 3 book a year [being now in his 70's it is down from 4+ 
paper-back books a year].  He uses many macros and keyboard assignments 
[and a non standard keyboard] for many years.  So, knowing what you 
change your profile to/with might help our developers make it easier for 
our users to do their work.






On 03/02/2014 07:57 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:

Thanks, Scot.

That seems to be what I was looking for. Just a quick glance showed me 
a lot of settings that I have customized. I'll dig further to see if 
all of them are in there.


You mention that you're on Linux. Are you running on a laptop? I've 
tried several different Linux distros on my Sony Vaio laptop, in many 
different forms (live CD/USB Flash, Wubi, true dual boot), etc. and 
every one of them seems to make my CPU run really hot, much hotter 
than my Windows setup. Have you (or any others) experienced similar 
problems? Various Linux forums online seem to indicate this is not 
uncommon. I've been *really* trying to give Linux a fair try, but it 
keeps hitting me with roadblocks. I know many of you are Linux 
enthusiasts, but I can't get past the heat and sound of a frantically 
whirring fan.


Virgil

-Original Message- From: Scott Castaline
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:59 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question

I run on Linux so I'm not sure if you have it on Win7. There's a file
called registrymodifications.xcu under libreoffice/4/user.
It's in some Markup format somewhat similar to html or xml. It can be
kind of cryptic but I have edited that file directly with some success.
I don't know if that contains everything within user options or not, but
I have saved it in the past before trying something that would cause the
app to barf and then restored that file and everything was fine again.

Scott C.

On 03/01/2014 04:40 PM, Carol-Virgil Arrington wrote:
I’ve got a question about the User Profile. I’m using LO 4.1.5 on 
Windows 7.


I understand that my user profile consists of a bunch of folders and 
files in my AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\User folder. But, beyond 
that, I can’t make sense of any of it (other than my Templates).


For example, I’ve made several customizations to my copy of LO, such as:

1. Screen colors
2. Keyboard assignments. I have many of my favorite paragraph styles 
assigned to Ctrl-key combinations, etc.


Where are these types of information kept? With other programs, I 
could find it in a file called *something*.ini, but in LO’s user 
profile, I can’t find anything that resembles any type of 
configuration file, and I’ve stepped my way through each and every 
file in each and every folder in the User file tree.


My computer recently crashed resulting in a corrupt User Profile. I 
was able to rename it and start over, but it would have been nice to 
be able to pinpoint the one or two corrupt files and correct them 
without necessarily starting from scratch. Also, I use LO on many 
different computers, and I’d like to just copy the pertinent 
configuration files from one computer to another without necessarily 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-03-02 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2/28/2014 9:37 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi:)
I just tried out the various options (Ctrl, Alt, Shift combos) in
Excel 2010 and there really doesn't seem to be a way of dragging a
column into a new position.  It seems you have to cut or copy first.


Glad you were wrong - being able to drag-n-drop is so much easier, and 
now I can do it in both Libre and Excel... :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Chart legends

2014-03-02 Thread Mark Bourne

Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello,
I inserted a chart from a Calc table in LO 4.2.1, running Linux-Mint-16.
Now
I find that I cannot change the text displayed within the legend. It simply
displays Row 1, Row 2, Row 3...). As far as I can see, one can only
change
the position of the legend. How do I define an arbitrary legend.


1. Double-click the chart to start editing it, if not already in that mode.
2. From the menu: Format  Data Ranges...
3. Open the Data Series tab.
4. In the Data Series (left-hand) list, click the series for which you 
want to set the name.

5. In the Data ranges (right-hand) list, click Name
6. In the Range for Name (below that list), type the name you want to 
appear for the selected series, enclosed in double-quotes.

7. Repeat steps 4-6 for each series.
8. Click OK.


Is there
maybe a way to somehow connect the various data rows of a chart with (e.g.)
a row/column in the Calc table on which the chart is based?


Yes. At step 6 above instead of typing the literal text (in quotes), 
enter a cell reference (without quotes). This needs to include the sheet 
name as well, e.g.:

  $Sheet1.$A$3
You can also click the icon to the right of the Range for Name box (it 
looks like a window with an up-pointing arrow), then click the cell in 
the spreadsheet, and Calc will automatically fill in the reference for you.


From the same dialog, you can also change the cells used for the series 
data (by selecting y-Values from the Data ranges list) and add new 
series to an existing chart. Useful if you add more data to the sheet 
beyond the range the chart was set up to use.



Regards
H. Stoellinger


I hope that helps.
Mark.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Chart legends

2014-03-02 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger

Thanks, Mark,
I did actually manage to find out how to do this in the meantime...
In my opinion the procedure is not really self-evident. I tried doing it 
starting
with Legend, but there one cannot change the text...
Thanks again...
Regards
Heinrich

On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 17:26:25 +0100, Mark Bourne 
libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:

Hello,
I inserted a chart from a Calc table in LO 4.2.1, running Linux-Mint-16.
Now
I find that I cannot change the text displayed within the legend. It simply
displays Row 1, Row 2, Row 3...). As far as I can see, one can only
change
the position of the legend. How do I define an arbitrary legend.


1. Double-click the chart to start editing it, if not already in that mode.
2. From the menu: Format  Data Ranges...
3. Open the Data Series tab.
4. In the Data Series (left-hand) list, click the series for which you
want to set the name.
5. In the Data ranges (right-hand) list, click Name
6. In the Range for Name (below that list), type the name you want to
appear for the selected series, enclosed in double-quotes.
7. Repeat steps 4-6 for each series.
8. Click OK.


Is there
maybe a way to somehow connect the various data rows of a chart with (e.g.)
a row/column in the Calc table on which the chart is based?


Yes. At step 6 above instead of typing the literal text (in quotes),
enter a cell reference (without quotes). This needs to include the sheet
name as well, e.g.:
   $Sheet1.$A$3
You can also click the icon to the right of the Range for Name box (it
looks like a window with an up-pointing arrow), then click the cell in
the spreadsheet, and Calc will automatically fill in the reference for you.

 From the same dialog, you can also change the cells used for the series
data (by selecting y-Values from the Data ranges list) and add new
series to an existing chart. Useful if you add more data to the sheet
beyond the range the chart was set up to use.


Regards
H. Stoellinger


I hope that helps.
Mark.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 4 corrupting Calc files

2014-03-02 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2014-03-02 7:00 GMT+01:00 J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

 I'm new to the list, so if this is an inappropriate subject, please let me
 know.

 I am using Libreoffice on Manjaro Linux. Over the last several months the
 version has been regularly updated. The currently installed version is:
 Version: 4.1.5.3
 Build ID: 4.1.5.3 Arch Linux build-1. I have been using Manjaro for about
 six months. Over this time I have been using Libreoffice to update some
 Calc spreadsheets that I created to keep track of my finances. There is
 only one of those files that occasionally gets corrupted. It's always the
 same file, and only this one file that gets corrupted. I keep the files on
 a USB drive. I always save the file, close Libreoffice, and unmount the
 drive before removing it from the computer. I have no forewarning that the
 file is corrupt until the next time I open it. When I open the file when
 its corrupted, I get this window:
 Screenshot
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/aak5y545qsmhe30/Screenshot_TextImport_2014-03-01.png
 
 ​.  Nothing I try can get Libreoffice to open or repair the file. ​
 ​But​
 ​, if ​
 ​I open the file with Libreoffice 3 on my Debian system, I am offered a
 window that asks me if I want Libreoffice to repair the file. If I click on
 'Yes' Libreoffice 3 completes the repair and I see the spreadsheet. The
 only strange thing that I notice about the repaired file is that the last
 chart I had created is only a placeholder. I then delete the placeholder
 and recreate the chart. If I then save an​
 ​​d close the file, and reopen it in Libreoffice 4, it opens fine until the
 next time it gets corrupted. I don't know how to cause the problem, other
 that to keep opening the file until it happens.

 Has anyone seen this problem? Is there anything I should try?


I have seen a problem that seems to be similar, but that was an earlier
version of LibreOffice, I think 3.7.something. It corrupted a spreadsheet
for me and I couldn't repair it with LibreOffice, so I installed Apache
OpenOffice and opened it. Apache OpenOffice repaired the file for me and I
have been using it ever since, and since then the spreadsheet never got
corrupted again.

That's probably not the solution you are looking for, I just wanted to say
that you are probably not the only one who had this problem, but I'm not
100% sure it's the same bug.



Johnny Rosenberg





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Button clic saves and sends email

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Please use Reply to all when replying to mails from this mailing
list.  That way everyone gets to see what is going on so far and might
be able to add the next bit to build up the complete answer or provide
a different approach.

Does anyone know how to make a button and give it the functionality
that exists within the menus?  Does anyone know how to take that
further and modify the button's functionality?


Is this something to do with macros?  If so then these guides might be
useful.  Ch12 of the Getting Started guide
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
and Andrew Pitonyak's book
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers

Regards from
Tom :)





On 2 March 2014 00:22, Jérémie Jacquand jeremie.jacqu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you for your answer.
 The filename changes dynamically according to the user and date and needs to
 be in a very specific format.
 The users of this spreadsheet are not going to follow these simple steps and
 need a one click button solution.

 Le 2 mars 2014 01:17, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi :)
 There is a single button in the default tool-bar that converts to Pdf.
  it's beside the printer cons.  It doesn't put it straight into an
 email though.

 Alternatively there is a menu option;
 File - Send - As Pdf
 but that is 3 clicks.

 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 1 March 2014 13:45, Jay jeremie.jacqu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello !
 
  I have a calc document and wish to create a button which does the
  following:
 
  - Saves the spreadsheet in PDF in a predetermined path using a cell
  content
  as filename
  - Sends an email containing the PDF
 
  I don't care if the program uses python code, libroffice basic, java...
  as
  long as the code is inside the spreadsheet and that anyone who has the
  file
  can execute the button click without installing additional software
  except
  libreoffice.
 
  I don't have enough knowledge to program this :-/ hope you can help me
  on
  this.
 
  Thanks for your help :)
 
 
 
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Fwd: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think that is better as a separate thread so i have use this post to
break it off the thread that is now solved.

I've had big problems with Sony Vaio in the past and wouldn't touch
them with a barge pole now.  It was just 1 product-line and subsequent
ones don't seem to have the combination of catastrophes that led to
the problem but even so the appalling way customer services handled it
makes me wary of buying anything from sony, particularly laptops and
especially the infamous Vaios.

If you are looking for a light-weight or low energy distro then there
are a few specialist ones.  Alternatively it might be good to go with
something like Slackware (personally i wouldn't especially for a
'first' foray into Linux-land) where you have complete control over
exactly what is running in the background and only switch things on in
the boot-process that you are certain you want to have running.
Gateway distros such as Ubuntu, Mageia, Fedora, openSuSR are
configurable up to a point but they are all designed to compete with
Windows so they have thing running in the background that you probably
never need.  For example my machine has no Blue-tooth capability but
both Windows and Ubuntu wanted to have it running in the background.
In Ubuntu i was able to stop it from starting up during the boot
process.

By a 'first' foray i mean until after you have been running something
simple for a few years and have become familiar with how smoothly
things can run.  Then when you try building something from scratch,
like Slackware, Gentoo, Arch (actually Arch might be a good compromise
because they have excellent documentation) then you have got a
yard-stick to measure your successes and failures against.  Generally
such scratch built systems will have significantly better performance
but it might not be worth the agro (at least not for most people such
as me).
Regards from
Tom :)




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From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
Date: 2 March 2014 12:57
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Thanks, Scot.

That seems to be what I was looking for. Just a quick glance showed me
a lot of settings that I have customized. I'll dig further to see if
all of them are in there.

You mention that you're on Linux. Are you running on a laptop? I've
tried several different Linux distros on my Sony Vaio laptop, in many
different forms (live CD/USB Flash, Wubi, true dual boot), etc. and
every one of them seems to make my CPU run really hot, much hotter
than my Windows setup. Have you (or any others) experienced similar
problems? Various Linux forums online seem to indicate this is not
uncommon. I've been *really* trying to give Linux a fair try, but it
keeps hitting me with roadblocks. I know many of you are Linux
enthusiasts, but I can't get past the heat and sound of a frantically
whirring fan.

Virgil

-Original Message- From: Scott Castaline
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:59 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question


I run on Linux so I'm not sure if you have it on Win7. There's a file
called registrymodifications.xcu under libreoffice/4/user.
It's in some Markup format somewhat similar to html or xml. It can be
kind of cryptic but I have edited that file directly with some success.
I don't know if that contains everything within user options or not, but
I have saved it in the past before trying something that would cause the
app to barf and then restored that file and everything was fine again.

Scott C.

On 03/01/2014 04:40 PM, Carol-Virgil Arrington wrote:

 I've got a question about the User Profile. I'm using LO 4.1.5 on Windows 7.

 I understand that my user profile consists of a bunch of folders and files in 
 my AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\User folder. But, beyond that, I can't make 
 sense of any of it (other than my Templates).

 For example, I've made several customizations to my copy of LO, such as:

 1. Screen colors
 2. Keyboard assignments. I have many of my favorite paragraph styles assigned 
 to Ctrl-key combinations, etc.

 Where are these types of information kept? With other programs, I could find 
 it in a file called *something*.ini, but in LO's user profile, I can't find 
 anything that resembles any type of configuration file, and I've stepped my 
 way through each and every file in each and every folder in the User file 
 tree.

 My computer recently crashed resulting in a corrupt User Profile. I was able 
 to rename it and start over, but it would have been nice to be able to 
 pinpoint the one or two corrupt files and correct them without necessarily 
 starting from scratch. Also, I use LO on many different computers, and I'd 
 like to just copy the pertinent configuration files from one computer to 
 another without necessarily copying the entire user profile.

 Virgil




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.2.1 printing problem (landscape)

2014-03-02 Thread julien2412
Hi,

It seems to be https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75540, so it
should be fixed in 4.2.3

Julien



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
HI :)
+1
I can't believe i hadn't said that earlier!!  It was a great press
release :))

Almost all the comments, around 80-90% were extremely pro-ODF and
almost all of those were also anti-OOXML.

The 10-20% pro-OOXML comments almost entirely conceded that ODF should
be used but that OOXML should be included, in some cases just for a
restricted period to allow a smoother migration.  ALL such comments
were met with replies that covered;
1.  pointed out that MS Office itself and almost all other office
suites and programs can easily produce or convert to ODF
2.  that having 2 standards made the proposal pointless and a complete
waste of time
3.  that OOXML failed to achieve many of the stated aims of the
proposal especially the aim of allowing everyone to open government
documents without having to pay to buy/rent new versions of software
to do so.
or at least 2 out of 3 of those in some combination or other.  Most
times that was done already by someone other than me but i covered the
few comments that seemed to have been missed by other people.

One common bit of FUD that kept appearing was that people seem to
think each different office suite or program has it's own different
format. That got dealt with quite neatly each time.  A few comments
pointed out that Google-docs doesn't use ODF.  However Google
themselves posted there own statement saying that they support this
proposal to use ODF.

Some stats that i found interesting;

Microsoft's statement had 11,000 words and didn't go against using
ODF, just demanded that OOXML got added as a 2nd format.  1st reply
was quite swift and very critical.  None of the replies supported MS
despite their call to arms posted to their partners.  There were a
few fresh posts that quoted and supported them but not many.  Mostly
when it got quoted it was to criticise MS.

TDF's statement had under 900 words
Redhat's had around 500 (i think)

[There were press release type comments from other organisations
almost entirely in support of ODF but those were the only 2 that i
really noticed and still remember.]

Google's statement had around 80 words but it was more a response to
other comments rather than the type of press release made by the
others.

Most pro-ODF press releases had replies supporting them and were
quoted elsewhere, particularly the TDF statement which seemed to be
very well received.  (I might be a tad biased there but i was trying
to be objective)

As was pointed out several times the OOXML ISO format's spec ran to
7,000 pages.  The ODF's ISO spec was variously quote as 1,200 or 800
pages.  Either way at least 6 times smaller!

Also it was quite often pointed out that OOXML's promise of
interoperability never seems to have worked in reality and that even
MS Office doesn't seem to use the ISO version of the spec and makes
excuses such as 2007 and 2010 using different transitional versions.
 That by contrast the ODF formats have been in use by many for quite a
few years.  Some comments pointed out that the strict OOXML in 2013
was not the default and still didn't appear to be the same as the ISO
version.  1 or 2 pointed out that OOXML contains proprietary blobs and
that's why no-one except MS can implement it.


So, i learned TONS from reading other people's comments.  Most of
which i kinda trust because they often explained problems that people
have brought to the Users List or seen or experienced elsewhere
(transitional vs strict for example) and also why it's such a
problem for non-MS suites and programs to implement OOXML reliably.
Of course i'd still need to confirm much of that through external
reading but it gave me a LOT of good starting points to research such
issues.  Also a few posts gave great links to external resources.

All VERY interesting!


Annoyingly the final post of the whole consultation postulated that if
the proposal IS accepted and IF anyone attempted to implement it that
the Uk government might then find itself involved in protracted
court-cases brought on by one of the most powerful companies on the
planet, Microsoft.

My personal opinions on that and the rest ...
So, now we just wait and see if the Uk does dare to accept the
proposal or if the government turns out to be weak and ineffectual.
Based on past performance my guess is that it will crumble and just go
along with supporting MS's apparently (but rarely recognised)
extortionate prices.

However, even if the Uk government does feel to weak to challenge MS
at least we have seen a first attempt by them and maybe in 10 years
time (which is apparently the soonest time they can reassess again)
then it might finally be able to break free then (assuming MS is still
around then).

Hopefully other governments will be able to see that the attempt was
made and that through failure ensured that the Uk continues to pay far
more than any other European Government on IT and has the lowest
performance as a result.  Meanwhile other governments that HAVE
ALREADY broken free or that DO break 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Auto-Monthly Donation?

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
That option i not yet available.  I'm fairly sure it's just because
no-one has even thought about it before.  I've certainly not seen
anyone suggest it in all the discussions i saw about the donations
page.  Perhaps just suggest it to the marketing mailing list and see
if they like the idea.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 1 March 2014 23:27, C. Reis amade...@cox.net wrote:
 Hello Libre Support,

 I really like Libre Office. I use it on my Windows, Linux and OS X
 Boxen. I wish to contribute, but I can't seem to find an option that allows
 me to make a donation in a set monthly amount. I guess I'm looking for
 something like how WikiPedia is setup (i.e. I can choose to donate a one
 time gift or a set monthly amount). I see the options for the one-time
 donation, but I don't see any options for a monthly one. Am I missing
 something, or is that option not available?

 Thank you,
 -Cephas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 4 corrupting Calc files

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I found that some files went a bit weird if they had originally been
created in Word as DocX (maybe as (Doc too but i haven't had enough
cases to really notice) and then just used Save As to convert to
Odt.

Similarly with some files created in 3.3.x and used in more recent
versions - and again with ones in 3.4.x.  Ones in 3.5.x and onwards
don't seem to have the same problems at all.  However, a lot of that
could be due to user-error.  I had been using OpenOffice a little bit
over the years under Sun but only started using it seriously when it
became LibreOffice.  During most of the 3.3.x and 3.4.x branch i had a
tendency to set the file defaults as MS ones instead of using ODF.  It
was only by the 3.5.x branch that i committed to using ODF for
originals and since then i've had no problems.



Starting afresh solved the problems for me.  I'd start by opening a
blank fresh new document using the latest release of LibreOffice.
Then copypaste(special) in as unformatted text.  Finally apply styles
and drag in images.

Granted, it is a LOT easier with most word-processed letters and other
fairly small documents. Spreadsheets are going to be a tad more
complicated because there's a tendency to have a lot of worksheets and
each sheet would need to be done separately.

On the other hand it might be easier to do using just remove direct
formatting without starting afresh in a fresh new document.  Then it
might be just a couple of clicks per sheet.
Ctrl A = Select All
Ctrl c  = copy
Ctrl Shift v = paste special
Ctrl m = remove direct formatting (it's the top item in the
Format menu)

Regards from
Tom :)




On 2 March 2014 11:48, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:
 2014-03-02 7:00 GMT+01:00 J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

 I'm new to the list, so if this is an inappropriate subject, please let me
 know.

 I am using Libreoffice on Manjaro Linux. Over the last several months the
 version has been regularly updated. The currently installed version is:
 Version: 4.1.5.3
 Build ID: 4.1.5.3 Arch Linux build-1. I have been using Manjaro for about
 six months. Over this time I have been using Libreoffice to update some
 Calc spreadsheets that I created to keep track of my finances. There is
 only one of those files that occasionally gets corrupted. It's always the
 same file, and only this one file that gets corrupted. I keep the files on
 a USB drive. I always save the file, close Libreoffice, and unmount the
 drive before removing it from the computer. I have no forewarning that the
 file is corrupt until the next time I open it. When I open the file when
 its corrupted, I get this window:
 Screenshot
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/aak5y545qsmhe30/Screenshot_TextImport_2014-03-01.png
 
 .  Nothing I try can get Libreoffice to open or repair the file.
 But
 , if
 I open the file with Libreoffice 3 on my Debian system, I am offered a
 window that asks me if I want Libreoffice to repair the file. If I click on
 'Yes' Libreoffice 3 completes the repair and I see the spreadsheet. The
 only strange thing that I notice about the repaired file is that the last
 chart I had created is only a placeholder. I then delete the placeholder
 and recreate the chart. If I then save an
 d close the file, and reopen it in Libreoffice 4, it opens fine until the
 next time it gets corrupted. I don't know how to cause the problem, other
 that to keep opening the file until it happens.

 Has anyone seen this problem? Is there anything I should try?


 You could always try getting the latest version (4.2.1) and see if it still
 happen. I vaguely recall having a similar issue in Impress, that vanished
 by updating.

 Other than that, it would be useful to see the file when it is corrupted,
 but that might not be possible if it contain sensitive data.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: User Profile Question

2014-03-02 Thread julien2412
About profile, here is an url which may help:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

About Linux, I've got a laptop on Debian and I've got the same problem.
I think the culprit is ACPI implementation (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface).
Short story: ACPI part is built with MS compiler which lets warnings or
errors + some parts are defined for Windows only. If only Bios manufacturers
would use the Intel compiler (which is more strict), it would help a lot.
But we're off topic here so I'll stop there.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] new release of a larger color list than the standard one - over 2300 colors

2014-03-02 Thread upscope
On Saturday, March 01, 2014 07:16:14 AM Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
/Quote
 So far, the current list has been edited to over 2,300 colors, instead
 of the basic ones that came with the default install of
 LibreOffice.
 
 https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors/standard.
 soc---March-01-2014--released.txt
 
 For those who want to use this list of colors, you need to search the
 LO config folders for standard.soc.  Rename it as the
 standard.soc--original-one.txt and rename the new one as
 standard.soc.
/Quote
I ust downloaded from the above link. I am using your early list (2000 
colors) but don't remember it downloading as a text file. (old age). If 
I am correct I rename the txt file to .soc and then do waht you show but 
to your older file. i still have backup up original. 

Am I correct. I appreciate all the work your doing.

Russ
 
 So let me know what you think. Be kind with your remarks, please.  I
 am doing this between bouts of heavy pain and health issues.  I am
 spending most of my usable computer time supporting LO and doing
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Reply-To? (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Button clic saves and sends email)

2014-03-02 Thread Jim Seymour
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 15:34:59 +
Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 Please use Reply to all when replying to mails from this mailing
 list.  That way everyone gets to see what is going on so far and
 might be able to add the next bit to build up the complete answer
 or provide a different approach.
[snip]

That runs directly counter to what I'd wish.  If people Reply to
all to this post, I'll get two copies.  I don't need two copies,
being as I actually read the mailing list.

In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set
Reply-to to their own email address: I've a procmail rule that
resets those to the mailing list.

In general terms, on this mailing list or any other, I almost *never*
Reply to all.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc - Button clic saves and sends email

2014-03-02 Thread Luuk

On 2-3-2014 16:34, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Please use Reply to all when replying to mails from this mailing
list.  That way everyone gets to see what is going on so far and might
be able to add the next bit to build up the complete answer or provide
a different approach.

Does anyone know how to make a button and give it the functionality
that exists within the menus?




Tools/Customize
Choose tab 'Toolbars'
Click 'Add'
Under 'Category' choose 'Documents',
under 'Commands' choose 'E-mail as PDF'
Click 'Add'



Does anyone know how to take that further and modify the button's functionality?


It should be possible to add your own macro to a toolbar (see steps 
above, but slightly different ;)


Therefore it is not a needed functionality to modify the button's 
functionality.


One should change the macro-code to change the functionality.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Connect Base to External HSQLDB

2014-03-02 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/06/14 00:59, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
 Le 06/02/2014 05:50, Mark LaPierre a écrit :
 Hey all,

 I have HSQLDB installed here:
 /home/database/back/hsqldb/lib/hsqldb.jar

 I want the Base front end here:
 /home/database/recipe/recipe.odb

 On the LibreOffice Database Wizard:
 1. Select Database
  I select the radio button: [Connect to an existing database]
  I select [JDBC] in the section box and then click [Next]

 2. Set up JDBC connection
  I fill in [data source URL]:  jdbc:[../back/hsqldb/lib/hsqldb.jar]

  What do I put in the [JDBC driver class] box?

 The HSQLDB documentation suggests that there is a JDBC driver in the
 hsqldb.jar file but that doesn't work.

 I assume that the HSQLDB package contains a driver.jar somewhere.  What
 should I put in for the JDBC driver class path?

 
 (some terms below freely translated from my FR environment)
 
 -- data source (URL)
 hsqldb:file:path to the
 .odb;default_schema=true;shutdown=true;hsqldb.default_table_type=cached;get_column_name=false
 
 In path to the .odb above do not specify the .odb extension.
 Sset the defaults above as you prefer; these work for me.
 
 -- JDBC driver class
 org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver
 
 -- A question: did you set the class path and configuration for Java?
 If not, go to Tools/Options, LibreOffice / Java.
 Check that Use a Java setup is checked, then add the Java environment
 setup on the PC.
 
 Once this is set, click Class path
 In the new dialog:
 (1) Add an archive
 Point to the hsqldb.jar on your PC (mine is C:\Program
 Files\hsqldb-2.2.8.\lib)
 (2) Add a file
 Point to the above \lib subdir
 
 You should be up and running.
 
 HTH,
 

I've had a lot of distractions, Olympics and Income Tax return, to get
through so I'm working on this again.

On the Set up a connection to a JDBC database page I have:

Datasource URL
jdbc:[/home/database/back/hsqldb/lib/hsqldb.jar]

JDBC driver class
[org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver]

When I click on the [Test Class] button I get a dialog box that says the
JDBC driver was loaded successfully.

Jumped through the first hoop.

On the Set up the user authentication page I have:

User Name [mlapier] with the Password required check box selected.

When I click the [Test Connection] button I get a dialog box asking for
my password.  I type in my password and click the [OK] button.

I get a message box:
Connection Test
The connection could not be established.

Without the password check box I get the same result.

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Re: Reply-To? (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Button clic saves and sends email)

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Not everyone has that level of technical skill nor that level of
control over their emailing systems.  For the rest of us we have to
use Reply to all otherwise the mailing list doesn't see the
responses at all.

It does mean some people get 2 copies of the same email but when that
happens to me i just press the delete key a 2nd time and i find that
quite quick and easy to do.

It's always possible to write to the postmaster for this mailing list
and request that the default behaviour for the mailing list gets
changed but a few of us tried that a long old time ago and i can't
really imagine it ever getting changed now.
Regards from
Tom :)







On 2 March 2014 18:53, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 15:34:59 +
 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 Please use Reply to all when replying to mails from this mailing
 list.  That way everyone gets to see what is going on so far and
 might be able to add the next bit to build up the complete answer
 or provide a different approach.
 [snip]

 That runs directly counter to what I'd wish.  If people Reply to
 all to this post, I'll get two copies.  I don't need two copies,
 being as I actually read the mailing list.

 In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set
 Reply-to to their own email address: I've a procmail rule that
 resets those to the mailing list.

 In general terms, on this mailing list or any other, I almost *never*
 Reply to all.

 Regards,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started, Chapters 1 through 5

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The documentation team have a specific task that almost anyone can help with.

Their mailing list is very low traffic, especially compared against
this one!  If you think you have the patience and the skills for
working in documentation, or if you just want to see if you can score
on some of the low-hanging fruit they have to deal with, then this
task might be a good way in or just be a good experience.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 2 March 2014 19:51, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have gone through Chapters 1 through 5 of the Getting Started guide
 for LO v4.2, which have been reviewed and updated by other people. IMO
 Chapters 1, 2 and 3 are ready to publish. However, it would be good if
 someone else would go through the latest iteration of Chapters 4 and
 5, reviewing against the software. All files are in this folder:

 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I'm usually glad when i'm wrong because i learn something and usually
find an easier way of doing whatever it was.

I've not tried the Excel edges one yet.  Even if it does work i think
the LibreOffice one is easier and more forgiving but maybe i'm biased.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 2 March 2014 16:13, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 On 2/28/2014 9:37 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi:)
 I just tried out the various options (Ctrl, Alt, Shift combos) in
 Excel 2010 and there really doesn't seem to be a way of dragging a
 column into a new position.  It seems you have to cut or copy first.


 Glad you were wrong - being able to drag-n-drop is so much easier, and now I
 can do it in both Libre and Excel... :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer

2014-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It might be good to post this as a bug-report to see what comments the
devs make, or use their mailing list or irc or whatever.

I'm not having the same issue at all and can't replicate the problem
at all.  On my machines jpgs stay as jpgs and pngs as pngs.  I just
drag and drop my images in.  Not sure if that makes a difference.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 1 March 2014 13:57, Ra ravi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, it's not that either. I can't make sense of this either.
 Just as an example, one of the original JPEGs is 568x426 and 75kB in size,
 as a PNG it has the same dimensions but is 374kB in size.





 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Mark Bourne 
 libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

 OK. In that case it doesn't look like what I thought. The only other thing
 I can think is that perhaps some of those JPEGs do come out smaller when
 saved as PNG and LO is doing that to reduce the file size. But that seems
 unlikely for photos, as you originally said. Maybe someone else here has
 some ideas...

 Mark.



 Ra wrote:

 I never insert images as pictures. The JPEG images are only ever used as
 backgrounds for frames. I also never open the JPEGs in any picture editing
 application and copypaste from there, the images are only ever used as
 files from disk.

 What I'm doing is precisely this:

 File  Insert  Frame...  OK


 Then

 [right click on the frame created]  Frame...  Background  As: Graphic 
 Browse...  [select the JPEG file from disk]  Type: Area  OK


 And then repeat, many times, always selecting a different JPEG for the
 background.




 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Mark Bourne 
 libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

  Sure, but how did you then get those images into LibreOffice?

 If you use Insert  Picture  From file, LO knows that the file is a JPEG
 and probably even copies the file as-is into the ODF file.

 If you open the JPEG file in another application (such as an image
 editor), then copy from there and paste into LO, in this case LO will
 only
 have the bitmap data copied from the image editor. It will not know about
 the original image file nor what type it was, and probably uses its
 default
 format, i.e. PNG, to save that image data within the ODF file.

 My suspicion is that, although you saved all the source images as JPEGs,
 those which appear as JPEG in the ODF file were inserted by Insert 
 Picture  From file, while those which appear as PNG in the ODF file were
 opened in another application and copied and pasted into LO Writer.

 Mark.



 Ra wrote:

  Good guess but sadly no. All the images are first stored as JPEGs.
 That's
 how I know they in fact *are* JPEGs. ;-)



 Ra wrote:

 Hello,

 I have noticed some unexpected (and possibly inconsistent) behavior of
 documents producet with LO Writer. Here's my scenario: I have several
 frames in the document and each of them has a JPEG photo as the
 background.
 Each frame has a different image as a background. There are no other
 graphics in the document, just some text. The resulting document ends up
 being considerably larger than the sum of all the images and all the
 text
 content put together.

 Knowing that ODFs are really just ZIP archives, I decided to dig a
 little
 deeper. Having opened an ODF file with an archiver I noticed most (but
 not
 all, surprisingly!) of my JPEGs got converted to PNGs before getting
 stored. I don't know much about this but up until now I believed LO
 stores
 all external images as direct file copies, or at the very least in the
 original format, so this striked me as odd.


 Just a guess, but if you copy and paste an image from another file, LO
 won't know what format it was in originally (all it has is bitmap data
 pasted from the clipboard), so will probably use PNG since it is a
 lossless
 format. Maybe those in JPEG format were inserted by Insert  Picture 
 From
 file (or similar), while those in PNG format were opened in another
 application, copied from there, and then pasted into LO?

I've been told the ODF specification recommends using PNGs for
 bitmaps
 and
 SVG for vector graphics. This makes sense generally but is also quite
 inefficient for photos as PNG photos tend to be much larger than JPEGs.
 It
 is also weird that only some of my images got converted.

 Anybody know and can explain the logic behind this? My document
 currently
 contains about 100 such images, the JPEGs are all together about ~15MB
 in
 size, the rest of the document is mostly plain text with some
 formatting,
 and yet my document ends up at about ~47MB. I would like to optimize and
 reduce this if possible.

 In case it matters, the document was produced over several weeks in LO
 4.x
 or newer on Windows (XP/x86 and 7/x64) and Linux (x86).

 Thank you.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question

2014-03-02 Thread Girvin Herr

Kracked,
Have you looked at lm-sensors for Linux?
http://lm-sensors.org/
Girvin Herr


On 03/02/2014 07:09 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
I use Ubuntu Linux 12.04LTS as my default OS, but I also use Win7 on 
dual-booting laptops.  I never had Linux run hotter than Windows 
when it is installed onto the drive.  I also do not use the thin 
laptops, but the thicker ones that have more fan space and size to 
remove the heat better. Tell me, what do you use to see the CPU temps 
in Linux?  What do you use for Windows?  I use Speedfan for Windows 
and have not found much to really see actually temps in Linux, but by 
feeling the heat from the surface of the laptops, it never gets as 
hot as Windows.  Both laptops are dual core and the main desktop is 
a quad with the others dual and single cores.




As for the User Profile issue,  I would get it setup as you want it to 
be and then make a backup of it.  That way you do not have to start 
from scratch.


I do not customize as much as you do, just add a dictionary [or two] 
and add a larger color choice option for backgrounds, borders, text, 
etc..


I really think that getting your setup into a backup and using it when 
you crash due to a corrupted file would be most helpful. As for 
the compatibility of the Windows profile/config to Linux, well I do 
not know much about what each file does either.


For Win7 to Win7 systems, I think it taking a specific set of file in 
the user profile and copying it over to a new system would work.  
Which are the needed files, I do not know.  Maybe using the whole 
User folder would work transfered over to the new systems.


Question:  What type of [and how many] screen colors and keyboard 
assignments/modifications do you set up for your system?  What are you 
using them for?  We always like to know what LO is being used for and 
what our users are doing with it to make their workflow flow 
better.  I know of a SciFi-Fantacy writer who switched to Linux and 
now LO to write his 1 to 3 book a year [being now in his 70's it is 
down from 4+ paper-back books a year].  He uses many macros and 
keyboard assignments [and a non standard keyboard] for many years.  
So, knowing what you change your profile to/with might help our 
developers make it easier for our users to do their work.






On 03/02/2014 07:57 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:

Thanks, Scot.

That seems to be what I was looking for. Just a quick glance showed 
me a lot of settings that I have customized. I'll dig further to see 
if all of them are in there.


You mention that you're on Linux. Are you running on a laptop? I've 
tried several different Linux distros on my Sony Vaio laptop, in many 
different forms (live CD/USB Flash, Wubi, true dual boot), etc. and 
every one of them seems to make my CPU run really hot, much hotter 
than my Windows setup. Have you (or any others) experienced similar 
problems? Various Linux forums online seem to indicate this is not 
uncommon. I've been *really* trying to give Linux a fair try, but it 
keeps hitting me with roadblocks. I know many of you are Linux 
enthusiasts, but I can't get past the heat and sound of a frantically 
whirring fan.


Virgil

-Original Message- From: Scott Castaline
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:59 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question

I run on Linux so I'm not sure if you have it on Win7. There's a file
called registrymodifications.xcu under libreoffice/4/user.
It's in some Markup format somewhat similar to html or xml. It can be
kind of cryptic but I have edited that file directly with some success.
I don't know if that contains everything within user options or not, but
I have saved it in the past before trying something that would cause the
app to barf and then restored that file and everything was fine again.

Scott C.

On 03/01/2014 04:40 PM, Carol-Virgil Arrington wrote:
I’ve got a question about the User Profile. I’m using LO 4.1.5 on 
Windows 7.


I understand that my user profile consists of a bunch of folders and 
files in my AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\User folder. But, beyond 
that, I can’t make sense of any of it (other than my Templates).


For example, I’ve made several customizations to my copy of LO, such 
as:


1. Screen colors
2. Keyboard assignments. I have many of my favorite paragraph styles 
assigned to Ctrl-key combinations, etc.


Where are these types of information kept? With other programs, I 
could find it in a file called *something*.ini, but in LO’s user 
profile, I can’t find anything that resembles any type of 
configuration file, and I’ve stepped my way through each and every 
file in each and every folder in the User file tree.


My computer recently crashed resulting in a corrupt User Profile. I 
was able to rename it and start over, but it would have been nice to 
be able to pinpoint the one or two corrupt files and correct them 
without necessarily starting from scratch. Also, I use LO 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer

2014-03-02 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Ra,

Ra schrieb:

I never insert images as pictures. The JPEG images are only ever used as
backgrounds for frames. I also never open the JPEGs in any picture editing
application and copypaste from there, the images are only ever used as
files from disk.

What I'm doing is precisely this:

File  Insert  Frame...  OK


Then

[right click on the frame created]  Frame...  Background  As: Graphic 
Browse...  [select the JPEG file from disk]  Type: Area  OK


I think, that is the point. You do not insert the image directly, but 
use it as background image.


If you insert the image directly, it should stay in JPEG format.

Have you tried, whether other ways to make it a background (e.g. 
extending the palette) results in png too?


Why do you try to make it a background of the frame?

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 4 corrupting Calc files

2014-03-02 Thread J. Van Brimmer
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.comwrote:

 2014-03-02 7:00 GMT+01:00 J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com:

  Hello,
 
  I'm new to the list, so if this is an inappropriate subject, please let
 me
  know.
 
  I am using Libreoffice on Manjaro Linux. Over the last several months the
  version has been regularly updated. The currently installed version is:
  Version: 4.1.5.3
  Build ID: 4.1.5.3 Arch Linux build-1. I have been using Manjaro for
 about
  six months. Over this time I have been using Libreoffice to update some
  Calc spreadsheets that I created to keep track of my finances. There is
  only one of those files that occasionally gets corrupted. It's always the
  same file, and only this one file that gets corrupted. I keep the files
 on
  a USB drive. I always save the file, close Libreoffice, and unmount the
  drive before removing it from the computer. I have no forewarning that
 the
  file is corrupt until the next time I open it. When I open the file when
  its corrupted, I get this window:
  Screenshot
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/aak5y545qsmhe30/Screenshot_TextImport_2014-03-01.png
  
  ​.  Nothing I try can get Libreoffice to open or repair the file. ​
  ​But​
  ​, if ​
  ​I open the file with Libreoffice 3 on my Debian system, I am offered a
  window that asks me if I want Libreoffice to repair the file. If I click
 on
  'Yes' Libreoffice 3 completes the repair and I see the spreadsheet. The
  only strange thing that I notice about the repaired file is that the last
  chart I had created is only a placeholder. I then delete the placeholder
  and recreate the chart. If I then save an​
  ​​d close the file, and reopen it in Libreoffice 4, it opens fine until
 the
  next time it gets corrupted. I don't know how to cause the problem, other
  that to keep opening the file until it happens.
 
  Has anyone seen this problem? Is there anything I should try?
 
 
 I have seen a problem that seems to be similar, but that was an earlier
 version of LibreOffice, I think 3.7.something. It corrupted a spreadsheet
 for me and I couldn't repair it with LibreOffice, so I installed Apache
 OpenOffice and opened it. Apache OpenOffice repaired the file for me and I
 have been using it ever since, and since then the spreadsheet never got
 corrupted again.

 That's probably not the solution you are looking for, I just wanted to say
 that you are probably not the only one who had this problem, but I'm not
 100% sure it's the same bug.



 Johnny Rosenberg


​Thanks for that info Johnny. Gives me something to think about.​




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 4 corrupting Calc files

2014-03-02 Thread J. Van Brimmer
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 I found that some files went a bit weird if they had originally been
 created in Word as DocX (maybe as (Doc too but i haven't had enough
 cases to really notice) and then just used Save As to convert to
 Odt.

 Similarly with some files created in 3.3.x and used in more recent
 versions - and again with ones in 3.4.x.  Ones in 3.5.x and onwards
 don't seem to have the same problems at all.  However, a lot of that
 could be due to user-error.  I had been using OpenOffice a little bit
 over the years under Sun but only started using it seriously when it
 became LibreOffice.  During most of the 3.3.x and 3.4.x branch i had a
 tendency to set the file defaults as MS ones instead of using ODF.  It
 was only by the 3.5.x branch that i committed to using ODF for
 originals and since then i've had no problems.



 Starting afresh solved the problems for me.  I'd start by opening a
 blank fresh new document using the latest release of LibreOffice.
 Then copypaste(special) in as unformatted text.  Finally apply styles
 and drag in images.

 Granted, it is a LOT easier with most word-processed letters and other
 fairly small documents. Spreadsheets are going to be a tad more
 complicated because there's a tendency to have a lot of worksheets and
 each sheet would need to be done separately.

 On the other hand it might be easier to do using just remove direct
 formatting without starting afresh in a fresh new document.  Then it
 might be just a couple of clicks per sheet.
 Ctrl A = Select All
 Ctrl c  = copy
 Ctrl Shift v = paste special
 Ctrl m = remove direct formatting (it's the top item in the
 Format menu)

 Regards from
 Tom :)




​Thanks for the tip Tom. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that, but maybe
I'll have to create a new, fresh spreadsheet. That would be a LOT of work
though.








 On 2 March 2014 11:48, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:
  2014-03-02 7:00 GMT+01:00 J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com:
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm new to the list, so if this is an inappropriate subject, please let
 me
  know.
 
  I am using Libreoffice on Manjaro Linux. Over the last several months
 the
  version has been regularly updated. The currently installed version is:
  Version: 4.1.5.3
  Build ID: 4.1.5.3 Arch Linux build-1. I have been using Manjaro for
 about
  six months. Over this time I have been using Libreoffice to update some
  Calc spreadsheets that I created to keep track of my finances. There is
  only one of those files that occasionally gets corrupted. It's always
 the
  same file, and only this one file that gets corrupted. I keep the files
 on
  a USB drive. I always save the file, close Libreoffice, and unmount the
  drive before removing it from the computer. I have no forewarning that
 the
  file is corrupt until the next time I open it. When I open the file when
  its corrupted, I get this window:
  Screenshot
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/aak5y545qsmhe30/Screenshot_TextImport_2014-03-01.png
  
  .  Nothing I try can get Libreoffice to open or repair the file.
  But
  , if
  I open the file with Libreoffice 3 on my Debian system, I am offered a
  window that asks me if I want Libreoffice to repair the file. If I
 click on
  'Yes' Libreoffice 3 completes the repair and I see the spreadsheet. The
  only strange thing that I notice about the repaired file is that the
 last
  chart I had created is only a placeholder. I then delete the placeholder
  and recreate the chart. If I then save an
  d close the file, and reopen it in Libreoffice 4, it opens fine until
 the
  next time it gets corrupted. I don't know how to cause the problem,
 other
  that to keep opening the file until it happens.
 
  Has anyone seen this problem? Is there anything I should try?
 
 
  You could always try getting the latest version (4.2.1) and see if it
 still
  happen. I vaguely recall having a similar issue in Impress, that vanished
  by updating.
 
  Other than that, it would be useful to see the file when it is
 corrupted,
  but that might not be possible if it contain sensitive data.
 





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Re: Reply-To? (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Button clic saves and sends email)

2014-03-02 Thread J. Van Brimmer
I'm sorry, if that was me. I'm new to the list, and using Gmail. I just now
realized what I had done this morning. From now on I will hit Reply-All and
then edit out individuals email addresses.

[?]


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 On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 15:34:59 +
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  Hi :)
  Please use Reply to all when replying to mails from this mailing
  list.  That way everyone gets to see what is going on so far and
  might be able to add the next bit to build up the complete answer
  or provide a different approach.
 [snip]

 That runs directly counter to what I'd wish.  If people Reply to
 all to this post, I'll get two copies.  I don't need two copies,
 being as I actually read the mailing list.

 In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set
 Reply-to to their own email address: I've a procmail rule that
 resets those to the mailing list.

 In general terms, on this mailing list or any other, I almost *never*
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer

2014-03-02 Thread Ra
Hello,

True, I don't insert the images as pictures like you would expect, but I
didn't think that would make a difference since all the images are still
coming from a local disk, so therefore LO knows the format very well and
should be able to preserve it.

Why am I using frames with images as backgrounds instead of pictures? I
don't know really. I needed an image to accompany a chunk of text, this
seemed like a good idea at the time. It's kinda too late to change it now,
there are already over a hundred such frames... I might try to change it at
some later point but for now I'd like to stick with what I have.

I did not try inserting images any other way so I don't know how it would
behave. (I also don't understand what do you mean by extending the
palette.) I did however do a little experiment. Since ODTs are just ZIP
archives, I opened my document with an archiver tool and extracted the
contents to a temporary directory. Then I converted all the PNGs to JPGs
with the same name, updated the relevant index files accordingly
(content.xml, META-INF/manifest.xml), and archived it back as ZIP. Then I
renamed the ZIP to ODT and tried opening it in Writer, and voila, it
worked! All the images are still there and visible, I didn't see any
problems. I then saved it under a different name and checked the resulting
ODT, all the stored images were still in JPEG format. So I guess this kinda
solves my problem for now, although I would still like to know how and why
it happened to begin with. I need to do more editing on the document which
means a lot more saving, so I'll keep an eye on what LO does with these
JPEGs in the future.





On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:

 Hi Ra,

 Ra schrieb:

  I never insert images as pictures. The JPEG images are only ever used as
 backgrounds for frames. I also never open the JPEGs in any picture editing
 application and copypaste from there, the images are only ever used as
 files from disk.

 What I'm doing is precisely this:

 File  Insert  Frame...  OK


 Then

 [right click on the frame created]  Frame...  Background  As: Graphic 
 Browse...  [select the JPEG file from disk]  Type: Area  OK


 I think, that is the point. You do not insert the image directly, but use
 it as background image.

 If you insert the image directly, it should stay in JPEG format.

 Have you tried, whether other ways to make it a background (e.g. extending
 the palette) results in png too?

 Why do you try to make it a background of the frame?

 Kind regards
 Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Compress images

2014-03-02 Thread Dale Rebgetz


On 28/02/2014 9:14 pm, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
How about as an add-on/Extension for Draw?

Sounds clunky.


Do we really need more bloat in Writer to make it into yet another
image editor?
Most of the functionality already exists in Writer, and we are not 
talking about image editing in the literal sense, only about resizing 
and cropping. It need not contribute significantly to bloat if well 
written. Have you ever looked at IrfanView (a very capable and well 
regarded Windows image manipulation program) that is only 2.0 MB 
(installed size) with capabilities that go way beyond anything we are 
talking about.



I'm happier using dedicated programs and thus making
the images available for use elsewhere and in other programs.
Of all the images that I have processed for use in Writer, I have never 
used the same processed image elsewhere. Your usage may be different.



Just because Word does something bad doesn't mean we have to follow.

FUD? Who said anything about *that* functionality being bad?

Regards,
Dale.

   Part
of the extra advantage of LibreOffice is that it works on low spec
systems that MS Office can't cope with.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 28 February 2014 02:48, Dale Rebgetz dale.rebg...@setec.com.au wrote:

On 28/02/2014 12:16 pm, Cley Faye wrote:

I don't know how often this feature is requested for odt files. I know
that for pdf you can set parameters for the image compression, and it make
sense since the resulting file is unlikely to undergo future changes, but
it's less obvious for file formats that are not at the end of the editing
line. It's probably better to work with the highest resolution needed, and
produce smaller files as needed.

Fair point. However most documents reach a finished state, at which point
they do not need to stay bloated.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 4 corrupting Calc files

2014-03-02 Thread J. Van Brimmer
I have 14 sheets in the offending .ods file. I can't remember if it's
always the same sheet. That would take some time fiddling and testing. For
now, I think I'm just going to stay with LO 3.x.x on my Debian system. I
like the stability of Debian much more than Arch based OSes. I might try
installing AOO, just to try it out.


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 I prefer Johnny's route!  Maybe worth trying Gnumeric as a dedicated
 spreadsheet program too.  All 3 options there are in the same
 eco-system so if you do end up using AOO or Gnumeric you're still on
 the same team really.

 Before doing the fresh new spreadsheet route i would try just removing
 the direct formatting.  It might be worth trying a rename of the User
 Profile too jic either of those ideas do work.
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 2 March 2014 22:08, J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  I found that some files went a bit weird if they had originally been
  created in Word as DocX (maybe as (Doc too but i haven't had enough
  cases to really notice) and then just used Save As to convert to
  Odt.
 
  Similarly with some files created in 3.3.x and used in more recent
  versions - and again with ones in 3.4.x.  Ones in 3.5.x and onwards
  don't seem to have the same problems at all.  However, a lot of that
  could be due to user-error.  I had been using OpenOffice a little bit
  over the years under Sun but only started using it seriously when it
  became LibreOffice.  During most of the 3.3.x and 3.4.x branch i had a
  tendency to set the file defaults as MS ones instead of using ODF.  It
  was only by the 3.5.x branch that i committed to using ODF for
  originals and since then i've had no problems.
 
 
 
  Starting afresh solved the problems for me.  I'd start by opening a
  blank fresh new document using the latest release of LibreOffice.
  Then copypaste(special) in as unformatted text.  Finally apply styles
  and drag in images.
 
  Granted, it is a LOT easier with most word-processed letters and other
  fairly small documents. Spreadsheets are going to be a tad more
  complicated because there's a tendency to have a lot of worksheets and
  each sheet would need to be done separately.
 
  On the other hand it might be easier to do using just remove direct
  formatting without starting afresh in a fresh new document.  Then it
  might be just a couple of clicks per sheet.
  Ctrl A = Select All
  Ctrl c  = copy
  Ctrl Shift v = paste special
  Ctrl m = remove direct formatting (it's the top item in the
  Format menu)
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
  Thanks for the tip Tom. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that, but maybe
  I'll have to create a new, fresh spreadsheet. That would be a LOT of work
  though.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 2 March 2014 11:48, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:
   2014-03-02 7:00 GMT+01:00 J. Van Brimmer jerry...@gmail.com:
  
   Hello,
  
   I'm new to the list, so if this is an inappropriate subject, please
 let
  me
   know.
  
   I am using Libreoffice on Manjaro Linux. Over the last several months
  the
   version has been regularly updated. The currently installed version
 is:
   Version: 4.1.5.3
   Build ID: 4.1.5.3 Arch Linux build-1. I have been using Manjaro for
  about
   six months. Over this time I have been using Libreoffice to update
 some
   Calc spreadsheets that I created to keep track of my finances. There
 is
   only one of those files that occasionally gets corrupted. It's always
  the
   same file, and only this one file that gets corrupted. I keep the
 files
  on
   a USB drive. I always save the file, close Libreoffice, and unmount
 the
   drive before removing it from the computer. I have no forewarning
 that
  the
   file is corrupt until the next time I open it. When I open the file
 when
   its corrupted, I get this window:
   Screenshot
  
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/aak5y545qsmhe30/Screenshot_TextImport_2014-03-01.png
   
   .  Nothing I try can get Libreoffice to open or repair the file.
   But
   , if
   I open the file with Libreoffice 3 on my Debian system, I am offered
 a
   window that asks me if I want Libreoffice to repair the file. If I
  click on
   'Yes' Libreoffice 3 completes the repair and I see the spreadsheet.
 The
   only strange thing that I notice about the repaired file is that the
  last
   chart I had created is only a placeholder. I then delete the
 placeholder
   and recreate the chart. If I then save an
   d close the file, and reopen it in Libreoffice 4, it opens fine until
  the
   next time it gets corrupted. I don't know how to cause the problem,
  other
   that to keep opening the file until it happens.
  
   Has anyone seen this problem? Is there anything I should try?
  
  
   You could always try getting the latest version (4.2.1) and see if it
  still
   happen. I vaguely recall having a similar issue 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation's response to Her Majesty's Government consultation on document formats

2014-03-02 Thread som



 I can't believe i hadn't said that earlier!!  It was a great press
 release :))

totally agree


 
 A few comments
 pointed out that Google-docs doesn't use ODF.  However Google
 themselves posted there own statement saying that they support this
 proposal to use ODF.

actually that is partial truth and not the whole truth. users were right, 
google does not support ODF totally. gmail has a very nice feature - when an 
email has an attachment, you could simply click on it and a preview will be 
open. you could go through the preview and decide if you want to download it or 
not. this preview feature is supported for .docx,.xlsx, .doc. .pdf but not 
for .odt,.ods. so from this you could come to a conclusion that google does 
not support ODFs.
however, if you save the file into google drive and then try to convert it, it 
is possible to do so even with ODFs. so, google drive does support ODF. 

as i was saying, both were partially correct.

 Hopefully other governments will be able to see that the attempt was
 made and that through failure ensured that the Uk continues to pay far
 more than any other European Government on IT and has the lowest
 performance as a result.  Meanwhile other governments that HAVE
 ALREADY broken free or that DO break freak free continue to find huge
 cost-savings, plummeting costs and rapidly as a result.

amen to that!

regards, 

som

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