[libreoffice-users] Re: Adding Watermarks

[Ken Springer]

On 10/31/16 7:10 PM, toki wrote:

On 31/10/2016 21:47, Ken Springer wrote:


Thanks, Dave, but it's not necessary.  I have few docs to do that need a 
"Draft" watermark, then I don't think I'll need it again in the


Going forward, you can abuse the classification system, by selecting
"Internal Only" as the classification. This will add a header, footer,
and diagonal message across every page, that says "This content is
marked Internal Only. Do not distribute it outside of the business." or
an abridgment thereof.

On second thoughts, it might be less scary to simply create a
classification "Draft", with slightly more appropriate messages,
displayed in a less in-your-face manner.


I don't know anything about the classification system, but it sounds 
like something that's not necessary in my case.


I learned long ago, never proofread your own writing!   LOL   These are 
small condensed 1 page informational sheets for customers to help them 
know more about their computers.  The watermark is simply to prevent the 
wrong copy from being printed and then handed out.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Adding Watermarks

[toki]

On 31/10/2016 21:47, Ken Springer wrote:

> Thanks, Dave, but it's not necessary.  I have few docs to do that need a 
> "Draft" watermark, then I don't think I'll need it again in the

Going forward, you can abuse the classification system, by selecting
"Internal Only" as the classification. This will add a header, footer,
and diagonal message across every page, that says "This content is
marked Internal Only. Do not distribute it outside of the business." or
an abridgment thereof.

On second thoughts, it might be less scary to simply create a
classification "Draft", with slightly more appropriate messages,
displayed in a less in-your-face manner.

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Virgil Arrington]

Here's how I did it with Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I imagine it might work with Mint, 
which is based on Ubuntu.


Method 1

I opened a command line terminal (With Ubuntu, it's Ctrl-Alt-t).

I typed in the following commands, hitting  after each line.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1

sudo apt-get update

After typing in the first line, you'll be prompted for your user password. The 
first line adds the repository for LO 5.1.x. The second line automatically 
updates your system to use it.


Method 2

You can do the same thing through Synaptic Package Manager. Open Synaptic and 
click on Settings and then Repositories. In the Repositories dialog, click on 
Other Software, then click Add. Then type in ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-5-1 
and click Add Source. You will be prompted to reload your software sources. 
Once you do that, you can click Mark All Upgrades. Synaptic will mark the LO 
packages that are to be updated. Click Apply and you'll be upgraded.

Again, I've used both methods with Ubuntu. That said, I am not by any means an 
experienced Linux user. I tend to use Synaptic for all my software installation 
needs. I've never downloaded and installed a *.deb file. Instructions for these 
methods are found at:

https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-5-1.

I don't know enough about Mint to know if it will work properly, but since Mint 
is based on Ubuntu, I tend to believe it will.

Virgil




On 10/31/2016 06:53 PM, gordon cooper wrote:


On 01/11/16 09:16, Robert Großkopf wrote:
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Hi Tim,
What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place
them all in a temporary folder I call "lib".  Nice and simple, I
have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy".

This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager
  package [on Mint] called "Caja".


Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE
desktop GUI]

This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look
different since you will not have the same laptop and user name.
This is the default user folder for my laptop.

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$

I type in "cd lib"

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib

I get this folder shown

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$

At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files
from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb
files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2.

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

This will prompt me to five my superuser password.  Then it will
start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the
folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the
commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate
desktop]

So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with
the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very
easy route.

cd lib

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you
have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is
delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will
work well.
Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But
with OpenSUSE it works well.

Regards

Robert

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This installation method all looks overly complicated to me, and is one
of the reasons that I swapped over to MX-Linux where the system comes
as a package with installation instructions/prompts included. Plus the bonus
that the User Manual can be read/downloaded beforehand.

Gordon.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[gordon cooper]

On 01/11/16 09:16, Robert Großkopf wrote:

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Hi Tim,

What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place
them all in a temporary folder I call "lib".  Nice and simple, I
have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy".

This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager
  package [on Mint] called "Caja".


Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE
desktop GUI]

This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look
different since you will not have the same laptop and user name.
This is the default user folder for my laptop.

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$

I type in "cd lib"

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib

I get this folder shown

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$

At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files
from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb
files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2.

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

This will prompt me to five my superuser password.  Then it will
start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the
folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the
commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate
desktop]

So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with
the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very
easy route.

cd lib

sudo dpkg -i *.deb


After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you
have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is
delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will
work well.
Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But
with OpenSUSE it works well.

Regards

Robert

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This installation method all looks overly complicated to me, and is one
of the reasons that I swapped over to MX-Linux where the system comes
as a package with installation instructions/prompts included. Plus the bonus
that the User Manual can be read/downloaded beforehand.

Gordon.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Adding Watermarks

[Ken Springer]

On 10/31/16 2:21 PM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote:



On 26/10/16 06:18, Ken Springer wrote:

LO 5.1.5, Windows 7

The help file says to go to Format -  Page and select the background
tab.  Then it says "On the background tab page...".

Unfortunately, no such tab exists.

I'm assuming they've moved the feature to somewhere else?


If it helps at all I have created a template with watermarks good to go:

https://www.apertura.co.nz/libreofficewatermarks


Thanks, Dave, but it's not necessary.  I have few docs to do that need a 
"Draft" watermark, then I don't think I'll need it again in the 
foreseeable future.



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 and it's gone!"


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding Watermarks

[Dave Koelmeyer]

On 26/10/16 06:18, Ken Springer wrote:
> LO 5.1.5, Windows 7
>
> The help file says to go to Format -  Page and select the background
> tab.  Then it says "On the background tab page...".
>
> Unfortunately, no such tab exists.
>
> I'm assuming they've moved the feature to somewhere else?

If it helps at all I have created a template with watermarks good to go:

https://www.apertura.co.nz/libreofficewatermarks

Cheers,
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Robert Großkopf]

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Hi Tim,
> 
> What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place
> them all in a temporary folder I call "lib".  Nice and simple, I
> have that folder in the "home" folder called "timothy".
> 
> This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager
>  package [on Mint] called "Caja".
> 
> 
> Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE 
> desktop GUI]
> 
> This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look
> different since you will not have the same laptop and user name.
> This is the default user folder for my laptop.
> 
> timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$
> 
> I type in "cd lib"
> 
> timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib
> 
> I get this folder shown
> 
> timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$
> 
> At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files
> from that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb
> files - if needed - in a different folder like lib2.
> 
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> 
> This will prompt me to five my superuser password.  Then it will
> start a "long" install process for all of the .deb files in the
> folder. The RPM system would have some different names for the
> commands I use for the DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate
> desktop]
> 
> So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with
> the name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very
> easy route.
> 
> cd lib
> 
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> 
After looking for this in the web I would make it the same way you
have described here. It's a little bit different to the tool, which is
delivered with OpenSuSE for system-managing with YAST, but it will
work well.
Don't know how to add a dircetory as repository in other sytems. But
with OpenSUSE it works well.

Regards

Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Robert Großkopf]

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Hi Ken,
> 
> I will have a look, if I find something special for your
> situation.

Couldn't find a clear description for this problem when looking for
Mint. But when I am looking for installing LO with Linux I found this:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux

Regards

Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 10/31/2016 01:08 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

Hi, Robert,

On 10/30/16 12:33 PM, Robert Großkopf wrote:

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For every installation on linux you could
- - install as root/SuperUser
- - install as user in your own directory

Install as root/SuperUser:
1. Upack the files you downloaded (program, help, language)
2. Create a directory which you could call as you want (local_sources)
3. Move the *.deb-packages (or *.rpm-packages) to this directory
4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local source
for your installer.
5. Now you could choose the directory with your installer and could
install all packages from there.


I did OK until step 4, and then my lack of basic Linux knowledge 
reared it's ugly head.  ROFL


In Mint 17.3, under Administration I see Software Manager, Software 
Sources, and Synaptic Package Manager.  But in none of those do I 
recognize anything that lets me point to folder I created.  I.E. a 
point and click method.  Is one of these the "install-program" you are 
referring to?


Would the folder I created now be called a repository?  If so, do I 
input the complete path?  Which means I need to learn how Linux 
structures pathnames.


Where can a find a truly beginner's guide for this type of 
information? I've noticed over the years that many "beginners" 
articles are not truly beginners articles at all, the articles already 
assume some basic level of knowledge.  Knowledge that does not always 
exist.  :-(




I do not get what is being said in 4 and 5 as well.

What I do is unpack the install files [I use .deb files] and place them 
all in a temporary folder I call "lib".  Nice and simple, I have that 
folder in the "home" folder called "timothy".


This will give me "/home/timothy/lib" while using the file manager 
package [on Mint] called "Caja".



Then I use the "Mate Terminal" [default command line for the MATE 
desktop GUI]


This is my starting point for this laptop - yours will look different 
since you will not have the same laptop and user name. This is the 
default user folder for my laptop.


timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$

I type in "cd lib"

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~$ cd lib

I get this folder shown

timothy@Gateway-NE56R12u:~/lib$

At this point I use this command to install all of the .deb files from 
that folder. I tend to place both the language and help .deb files - if 
needed - in a different folder like lib2.


sudo dpkg -i *.deb

This will prompt me to five my superuser password.  Then it will start a 
"long" install process for all of the .deb files in the folder. The RPM 
system would have some different names for the commands I use for the 
DEB based Linux OS [ I use Ubuntu with Mate desktop]


So, if you have a folder off your home folder [or directory] with the 
name of "lib" [home/timothy/lib], the command line is a very easy route.


cd lib

sudo dpkg -i *.deb



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[libreoffice-users] for the list members

[anne-ology]

   Thinking the list should be aware of this, I'm sending to the list.

   In response to you, Brian Barker - who doesn't seem to be listed as
a moderator BTW, I'm copying here part of the rules:

"To release it to the list, please send a message to <> which can usually be
done simply by replying to this message"

  which does not state there is only one way - note 'usually' -
therefore when a message has not been released to the list,
  yet I think it should be, I will so do ... & if I have
something to say in response, I shall so do.




From: Brian Barker 
Date: Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] local help
To: Anne Noname 


At 21:11 26/10/2016 -0500, you wrote:

Many on this list use LO writer, etc. - although many do not live in
> California; ..
>
> From: Dan Devor 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 12:24:25 -0700
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] local help
>
> I live in Riverside California...
>

As patiently requested previously, please, *please* don't just reply to
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

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Hi Ken,

>> 4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local
>> source for your installer. 5. Now you could choose the directory
>> with your installer and could install all packages from there.
> 
> I did OK until step 4, and then my lack of basic Linux knowledge
> reared it's ugly head.  ROFL
> 
> In Mint 17.3, under Administration I see Software Manager, Software
>  Sources, and Synaptic Package Manager.

I have never seen Mint. I'm using OpenSUSE since many years. But when
I see the title I would try it with
Software Sources.
There must be a possibility to add sources in the web, like Packman,
or also local Folders without any special description.

After you have added the directory as a source you could close
Software Sources
and could open
Software Manager (don't know the difference between "Software Manager"
and "Synaptic Package Manager").
There you should be able to install the packages of the folder.
> 
> Would the folder I created now be called a repository?  If so, do I
>  input the complete path?  Which means I need to learn how Linux 
> structures pathnames.

Yes, it would be like a repository. But you haven't to know anything
about pathnames. There must be a button to choose the path out of a
list. The only difference to normal repositories: There is no
description inside the repository. It's only a repository with
deb-packages.
> 
> Where can a find a truly beginner's guide for this type of
> information? I've noticed over the years that many "beginners"
> articles are not truly beginners articles at all, the articles
> already assume some basic level of knowledge.  Knowledge that does
> not always exist.  :-(
> 
I will have a look, if I find something special for your situation.

Regards

Robert

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[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Ken Springer]

On 10/31/16 11:45 AM, M Henri Day wrote:

2016-10-31 18:13 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer :


Hi, Henri,

On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote:



​Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if

that's what you're after - are found here :
https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well
for me



For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it
better.  But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old laptop
I have here in the future.

For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO
Calc on my Samsung laser.

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​
Hullo Ken !

There's a lot of wisdom in the old aphorism to the effect that if it ain't
broke, don't fix it​,


And if Microsoft would only listen...   LOL


and Mint 17.3 works very well - even if I myself find
Mint 18 just a little bit better. In any event, someone on the Linux Mint
Forum for printers and scanners (
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=51) might be able to suggest
solutions for the specific problems you're having printing from LO Calc on
your Samsung laser printer - perhaps worth a try ?...


I registered there soon after starting with Mint.  I don't post much 
because I don't get to "play" with Linux much.


In this case, things seem to be pointing to LO, and I want to eliminate 
that possibility before looking at another possible cause.



With regard to easily keeping your installation of LO updated on Mint, you
might want to consider installing the PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa). I can confirm that
it works like a charm, and you don't have to download and install the .deb
files yourself !...


Hopefully, after some help from Robert Großkopf I'll be able to do that.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Ken Springer]

On 10/30/16 2:16 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:

On 10/30/2016 10:56 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 10/29/16 8:04 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:

On 10/29/2016 06:52 PM, gordon cooper wrote:

Hi again Ken,
   There is some odd going on here. I don't use LO
very
often, most of my writing is done with Lyx, which then outputs as a
PDF and I print from there.  Have just looked at LO and found that
when it was asked to print, to either my little  Brother laser,or an
elderly HP Deskjet, the landscape paper option was greyed out,
just like yours.  These results came on a desktop, running MX-15
Linux.  Looked as if LO was deciding that the files would fit onto
portrait and not giving me the option to change.

I'll do some more digging. Think I have LO on a laptop with XP,
will dig it out .Perhaps somebody else will pop upon the forum
with an answer.

Gordon



This was brought out in an earlier thread.  Go to Print -> options tab
and check "Use only paper size from printer preferences."

That should enable paper sizes and orientation selection in the print
dialog.


It does not.  :-(

However, I discovered I can go to the printer's defaults, and set
landscape there, choose the "Use only..." setting in LO, and I get the
landscape layout when the spreadsheet is printed.

What I'm taking away from this is, it is a problem with LO 5.0.x that
comes with Mint 17.3 Rosa.

So I still need to go somewhere to find out how I install the current
version after I have it downloaded.

Thanks for the help and suggestions, everyone.



Yes, you must select landscape in LO (Format -> Page)  to format the
document/page and you must select landscape in the print dialog to
select the printer paper size/orientation.  If you don't then you get
the symptoms you described in your OP.  This is not a bug.  It makes
good sense.


Agreed.  Only problem is, it doesn't work for me at the moment with the 
default LO in Mint 17.3  :-(



The grayed out paper size/orientation in the print dialog I responded
to, is a separate issue brought up by Gordon and seemed to have started
with LO 5.x.  Don't know about 4.x.  LO 3.x did not exhibit this
"feature" AFAIK.  OpenOffice 4.x does not exhibit this either, but then
it is a different beast now.
Girvin






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[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Ken Springer]

On 10/30/16 11:02 PM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 10/29/2016 09:22 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 10/29/16 6:40 PM, gordon cooper wrote:



On 30/10/16 13:22, Ken Springer wrote:

Trying to learn a bit about Linux, as well as solve a printing issue
with LO in Linux Mint 17.3.  The printer is a Samsung CLP-315 color
laser.

When printing a spreadsheet, and selecting landscape, LO prints
landscape, but to paper that is still portrait.  Sort of like this...


| |
| |
..
..
..
|___|

The dots represent the data that is trying to be printed.

If I set the paper to portrait, this is the result.  All the data is
printed.


| |
| |
...
...
...
|___|


My suspicion is the printer driver, but I would like to install the
current Linux stable version.  Mint installs 5.0.3.2, which is the
current version in the repository, from what I can see.

I know it's somewhat apples to oranges, but the same spreadsheet works
fine on my Mac with the current version of LO.

Once I've downloaded the current version, where to I go from there?


Hi Ken,


Hi, Gordon,


  There  any many versions of Linux, just look at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
to see.


Oh, yea, I know. I go peek at distrtowatch.com now and again.  And
I've played with a number of LiveCD's to get a quick look at the ones
that looked interesting to me.


If you are wishing to stay with Mint, then take a look at their
home page. There plenty are of good options and
you will find that people have their preferences and tend to stay with
them.


I joined their forums 4-5 months ago.  And I got some suggestions
about using PPA's other than Linux Mint.  Just haven't had the time to
get to that.  But that doesn't mean the latest stable version is in
any of those PPA's.

FYI, this printing problem has cropped up a couple weeks ago.  I asked
in the forums a couple months ago.

Right now I'm using Mint with the Cinnamon desktop, looking for some
alternative to Windows and Macs that look simpler to tackle for
seniors and other "computer illiterate" folks.  Something they may
find easier to learn.  Secondarily, some of these individuals may have
unsupported versions of operating systems, but can't afford to buy a
new system. Or, they may not have one and can't afford one, but older
hardware can be salvaged and the system given to them.



On old XP systems, I tend to replace Windows with Ubuntu with Mint as
the desktop.  It was the closest to what I saw with Ubuntu's desktop for
9.x.x thru 10.10.x

It works well for XP users, in my test with friends.


Is it Ubuntu that works well for your friends, or the Mint desktop?  My 
reason for using Mint is the Cinnamon environment seemed to provide the 
simplest user interface for new to Linux or new to computers users to 
understand.



I use MX-Linux, which is based on
Debian, like MInt,  and is a mid sized but very stable operating system.
MX has LO built in.



I use to use Linux Mint, but had too many issues with networked Canon
inkjet printers.

So I installed Ubuntu again, since I could find the Mint desktop for
it.  Now Ubuntu has a distro with Mint as a default instead of adding it
after Unity desktop opens up.

Also, when I was using Linux Mint, I could not easily upgrade to the
newest version.

Ubuntu tries to keep its repository up-to-date with the latest stable
version of LO.  I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with Mint.  I am using LO
5.2.1.2 on this laptop, but plan on upgrading it soon. Since I have been
using Ubuntu since the 9.x.x days on my main desktop.  I have tried a
few others on other laptops/desktops.  I chose Ubuntu since it was the
only Live CD that worked on my old HP desktop's sound card right from
that CD.  Right now this laptop, and my spare, run both Ubuntu 16.04 and
Windows 10,





Mint also has LO built in.


Where you setting your portrait/landscape option, in LO?


Been switching between them in Calc, in this case.  When I stumbled on
this problem today, I also tried Writer, same problem.

But, in the printer's properties, I can't switch from landscape to
portrait.  The option is greyed out.

I've even tried reversing the page dimensions, to no avail.



Are you sure it is a MX670?
If so, what country did you get it from.
I do not see it listed in the Canon support for the USA.


My bad, Tim, I typed the model from memory.  Sorry.

It's an MX 870 from the US.


Calc printed fine to a Canon MX-670 (I think that's the right printer)
when the printer was first installed.  Then it broke for some unknown
reason.  It would print about 1.25" of data, and then be paused.
Resume the printing, and another 1.25" would print. Removing the
printer and reinstalling (although I might not have done it correctly)
failed to fix 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[M Henri Day]

2016-10-31 18:13 GMT+01:00 Ken Springer :

> Hi, Henri,
>
> On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote:
>
> 
>
> ​Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if
>> that's what you're after - are found here :
>> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well
>> for me
>>
>
> For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it
> better.  But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old laptop
> I have here in the future.
>
> For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO
> Calc on my Samsung laser.
>
> --
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> Firefox 49.0.1
> Thunderbird 45.3.0
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>  and it's gone!"
>
​
Hullo Ken !

There's a lot of wisdom in the old aphorism to the effect that if it ain't
broke, don't fix it​, and Mint 17.3 works very well - even if I myself find
Mint 18 just a little bit better. In any event, someone on the Linux Mint
Forum for printers and scanners (
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewforum.php?f=51) might be able to suggest
solutions for the specific problems you're having printing from LO Calc on
your Samsung laser printer - perhaps worth a try ?...

With regard to easily keeping your installation of LO updated on Mint, you
might want to consider installing the PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa). I can confirm that
it works like a charm, and you don't have to download and install the .deb
files yourself !...

Henri

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[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Ken Springer]

Hi, Henri,

On 10/30/16 1:12 PM, M Henri Day wrote:




​Ken, instructions for upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Linux Mint 18 - if
that's what you're after - are found here :
https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316. They worked very well
for me


For the time being, I'm going to stay with 17.3 until I understand it 
better.  But I created a LiveCD for 18, and may install it on an old 
laptop I have here in the future.


For the moment, I'm just trying to solve this issue of printing from LO 
Calc on my Samsung laser.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I install the current Linux version

[Ken Springer]

Hi, Robert,

On 10/30/16 12:33 PM, Robert Großkopf wrote:

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For every installation on linux you could
- - install as root/SuperUser
- - install as user in your own directory

Install as root/SuperUser:
1. Upack the files you downloaded (program, help, language)
2. Create a directory which you could call as you want (local_sources)
3. Move the *.deb-packages (or *.rpm-packages) to this directory
4. Use your install-program and add the directory as a local source
for your installer.
5. Now you could choose the directory with your installer and could
install all packages from there.


I did OK until step 4, and then my lack of basic Linux knowledge reared 
it's ugly head.  ROFL


In Mint 17.3, under Administration I see Software Manager, Software 
Sources, and Synaptic Package Manager.  But in none of those do I 
recognize anything that lets me point to folder I created.  I.E. a point 
and click method.  Is one of these the "install-program" you are 
referring to?


Would the folder I created now be called a repository?  If so, do I 
input the complete path?  Which means I need to learn how Linux 
structures pathnames.


Where can a find a truly beginner's guide for this type of information? 
I've noticed over the years that many "beginners" articles are not truly 
beginners articles at all, the articles already assume some basic level 
of knowledge.  Knowledge that does not always exist.  :-(



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Embedding fonts in Writer

[Ken Springer]

On 10/31/16 8:54 AM, Ricardo wrote:

El 2016-10-31 15:45, Ken Springer escribió:

Can this be done yet?


File → Properties → Font tab


Thanks, Ricardo.

I thought I had seen it somewhere, but I was looking in the general 
setup, never thought about document properties.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Embedding fonts in Writer

[Ricardo]

El 2016-10-31 15:45, Ken Springer escribió:

Can this be done yet?


File → Properties → Font tab

;)




If not, that's too bad.  :-(

And it's cramping my plans!  LOL

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[libreoffice-users] Embedding fonts in Writer

[Ken Springer]

Can this be done yet?

If not, that's too bad.  :-(

And it's cramping my plans!  LOL

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Any way to "keep with previous" in Writer?

[eponymous]

Kruno-2 wrote
> Can you be a bit more elaborate about this? Point some of those bug
> reports you mention. Now it's not even clear to me how should 'keep with
> previous' even work.
> 
> I'll asume you are starting a list at the very bottom of the page.
> 
> List will start on a new page only if there is not enough room left on the
> current page, and there is nothing you can do about it - if it's not
> fitting the page, it can't be done (bug or not).
> 
> Paragraphs can be kept together only 'with next', because 'with previous'
> is kinda done by default and free space on the page is limiting factor
> which can not be overcome.
> 
> What you could do is reduce spacing inside of list and between previous
> paragraph and list and hope it will fit or, what I would do, is CTRL +
> ENTER to move previous paragraph on the next page too. Yes, that is not
> what you are trying to do but it's the only way to keep them together.
> 
> You also could keep previous list item with next list item but I don't
> think that other way around is even possible.
> 
> Kruno
> 
>  Izvorna poruka 
> 
> This is an old post, but I think the problem still exists: how do you
> prevent
> a list from starting a new page? "Keep with previous" would seem to do
> that,
> and I don't find another solution.
> 
> Thoughts?

Sorry, I was replying to a 2011 post via the web page. Here's the original
post:


Wayne wrote
> I want to "Keep with previous" rather than "keep with next" (for my 
> beginning-of-list styles). I can see from searching that it's been 
> discussed and bugs opened and such, for quite a while, but I don't 
> think anything has come of it yet ... I wonder if anyone has worked 
> out a way to do that, or is it just a manual thing to do - go through 
> and apply Keep With Next, take it off where it no longer applies, etc. 

My problem is the same, and I'm not sure there's another way to solve it. In
specific, I've got some short paragraphs that are sometimes followed
immediately by lists that are related to their content. It's preferable not
to have those lists start a new page, especially when they follow a one-line
paragraph. Widow and orphan control don't help.

I suppose this could be a list-specific feature, but the idea is that the
first item would be forced to be on the same page as the preceding
paragraph, which would often mean that that preceding paragraph would have a
line bumped to the next page. I can do this manually with a page break, but
I'm looking for something automatic that would go in a style.

I would think this is not an unusual problem, even if it's not the most
common thing.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Any way to "keep with previous" in Writer?

[Kruno]

Can you be a bit more elaborate about this? Point some of those bug reports you 
mention. Now it's not even clear to me how should 'keep with previous' even 
work.

I'll asume you are starting a list at the very bottom of the page.

List will start on a new page only if there is not enough room left on the 
current page, and there is nothing you can do about it - if it's not fitting 
the page, it can't be done (bug or not).

Paragraphs can be kept together only 'with next', because 'with previous' is 
kinda done by default and free space on the page is limiting factor which can 
not be overcome.

What you could do is reduce spacing inside of list and between previous 
paragraph and list and hope it will fit or, what I would do, is CTRL + ENTER to 
move previous paragraph on the next page too. Yes, that is not what you are 
trying to do but it's the only way to keep them together.

You also could keep previous list item with next list item but I don't think 
that other way around is even possible.

Kruno




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Datum: 31.10.2016.  02:21  (GMT+01:00) 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Naslov: [libreoffice-users] Re: Any way to "keep with previous" in Writer? 

This is an old post, but I think the problem still exists: how do you prevent
a list from starting a new page? "Keep with previous" would seem to do that,
and I don't find another solution.

Thoughts?



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