Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO4.2 pdf export embeds all fonts...
** Reply to message from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com on Wed, 26 Feb 2014 17:50:37 -0800 (PST) LO 4.1.5 still has the Embed Standard Fonts option. It is 4.2.1 that took it out. Cliff Hi again Raymond r_ouellette wrote Strangely I'm unable to create a Bugzilla account! The system didn't reply to my request... You should check your Spam mailbox as Tom suggested. Regarding font embedding I just reported a similar font embedding problem in ODF files https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75553 However using the example file https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2347109/Font_embedding_in_ODF_1.2_LO414.odt I can't replicate the PDF export problem you mentioned. Maybe it just occurs with more complex documents? Curiously Apache OpenOffice already includes an Embed standard fonts option (unchecked by default, as expected) in the PDF Options when exporting to PDF... Maybe someone from LO development can reuse the already existing code? Cheers, Pedro -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.2.1 Issues
** Reply to message from Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com on Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:22:49 +0100 Le 24/02/2014 15:56, Cliff Scott a écrit : Hi Cliff, Part of the issue is that the Calibre Light font in the frame that goes partially across both columns is not found by LO as a separate font from Calibre. For some reason LO after ver 4.0.5 does not parse the Calibre Light font properly. I had this back in 4.1.3, 4.1.4 and now also 4.1.5. The problem was discussed on this list back in November and a work around was found, but that doesn't change the problem with 4.2.1. LO 4.1.5 handles the unrecognized font just fine and the text still fits in the frame with the substitution of what ever font LO comes up with, but 4.2.1 displays it larger so it extends outside the frame and still has the problem with not recognizing the font. I can make it fit by resizing the frame horizontally, but then the other text is push around and doesn't fit properly on the page. I was really hoping that the font recognizing problem would be fixed in 4.2.1, but obviously not. The problem is a known bug and I added my 2 cents to it on the bugtracker back in November. It doesn't make sense to me that the same document would load differently in the two versions since they use the same user preferences. The problem with font weight recognition in certain fonts is a known bug, but I can't remember the issue number at the moment. I saw it being discussed on one of the IRC channels the other day. No idea, when or whether it will be fixed though. The really frustrating part is that ApacheOO handles the fonts just fine. Even better than the older versions of LO. I can only assume that it was an accidental result of some other change. I sure hope someone takes it on to fix soon. LO is so much better than AOO that I don't want to go back. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.2.1 Issues
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com on Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:26:54 + Tom, My main question originally was regarding why LO 4.1.5 opened the document just fine and LO 4.2.1 didn't. Both installed on the same machine so using identical preferences and both substituted a font for the missing font. Something is different on 4.2.1 that makes the text take slightly more room on the page. Which one is correct I don't know, but in that document LO 4.1.5 works and LO 4.2.1 doesn't. As far as AOO goes the font parsing has always worked as far as I know. Somehow LO broke it partially early on and really broke it after LO 4.0.5. I would love to have it fixed soon, but it seems to me that when it gets fixed is anyone's guess as it has been broken for some time now. Cliff Hi :) Both programs use the same default format and since both can be installed alongside each othe (but you'll need the wiki guide to help do so). So it should be reasonably possible to use LibreOffice to write the document and then OpenOffice to read and print it. Also given the pace of development in LibreOffice it seem likely that it could be fixed reasonably soon, especially if the bug-report makes it clear it's something that is already fixed in AOO. Regards from Tom :) On 25 February 2014 16:17, Uli ulg...@gmx.net wrote: Am 25.02.2014 09:22, schrieb Alex Thurgood: Le 24/02/2014 15:56, Cliff Scott a écrit : Hi Cliff, Part of the issue is that the Calibre Light font in the frame that goes partially across both columns is not found by LO as a separate font from Calibre. For some reason LO after ver 4.0.5 does not parse the Calibre Light font properly. I had this back in 4.1.3, 4.1.4 and now also 4.1.5. The problem was discussed on this list back in November and a work around was found, but that doesn't change the problem with 4.2.1. LO 4.1.5 handles the unrecognized font just fine and the text still fits in the frame with the substitution of what ever font LO comes up with, but 4.2.1 displays it larger so it extends outside the frame and still has the problem with not recognizing the font. I can make it fit by resizing the frame horizontally, but then the other text is push around and doesn't fit properly on the page. I was really hoping that the font recognizing problem would be fixed in 4.2.1, but obviously not. The problem is a known bug and I added my 2 cents to it on the bugtracker back in November. It doesn't make sense to me that the same document would load differently in the two versions since they use the same user preferences. The problem with font weight recognition in certain fonts is a known bug, but I can't remember the issue number at the moment. I saw it being discussed on one of the IRC channels the other day. No idea, when or whether it will be fixed though. Alex Maybe it's similar to Bug 68467? It's about Frutiger font, but have a look at the attachments, which show the faults. Uli -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO 4.2.1 Issues
Tried LO 4.2.1 this evening for the first time on my Mac with OSx 10.9.1. I loaded a newsletter that I published last year because it was the type of document that I often deal with. I found that the newsletter opens fine in LO 4.1.5, but does not load properly in 4.2.1 and also locks up when resizing a frame. The Document is 2 columns with a Frame that goes across both columns as well as a number of pictures in the columns. Part of the issue is that the Calibre Light font in the frame that goes partially across both columns is not found by LO as a separate font from Calibre. For some reason LO after ver 4.0.5 does not parse the Calibre Light font properly. I had this back in 4.1.3, 4.1.4 and now also 4.1.5. The problem was discussed on this list back in November and a work around was found, but that doesn't change the problem with 4.2.1. LO 4.1.5 handles the unrecognized font just fine and the text still fits in the frame with the substitution of what ever font LO comes up with, but 4.2.1 displays it larger so it extends outside the frame and still has the problem with not recognizing the font. I can make it fit by resizing the frame horizontally, but then the other text is push around and doesn't fit properly on the page. I was really hoping that the font recognizing problem would be fixed in 4.2.1, but obviously not. The problem is a known bug and I added my 2 cents to it on the bugtracker back in November. It doesn't make sense to me that the same document would load differently in the two versions since they use the same user preferences. Problem #2 is that when resizing the frame vertically LO 4.2.1 goes bananas and makes the 3 page document a 5 page document and then locks up. I have to force quit it to get out of it. This is a problem I've never seen before in LO. Has anyone seen either of these problems in 4.2.1? I know it is early in the series so I expect some issues, but would like to know if they are only my issues or what. Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Export PDF
** Reply to message from r_ouellette ray.ouelle...@sympatico.ca on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:10:19 -0800 (PST) Raymond, Thanks for the tip. I'm assuming that you are referring to the PDF/A-1a format regarding the fonts being included in the PDF. The only one that makes a real difference in appearance is Courier New is much lighter than Courier. The other two are virtually identical, at least at 12pt so for most work those substitutions would work fine. Cliff I create pdf files since 1997 and I tried almost every possible way to do so (Linux or Windows softwares). LO does one of the best job! If you want really small and efficient pdf, do the following : Menu Tools Options Fonts and add these 3 substitutions (even if you don't have these fonts installed on your PC): Arial Helvetica Courier New Courier Times Times New Roman and check « Allways » in front of each substitution. This way you will use the always included 35 Type1 Adobe fonts that every pdf reader provides and uses. True, Times is not Times New Roman but closely related. You can do, of course, the same substitutions with the equivalent Liberation fonts too, so Liberation Sans Helvetica... etc. The Type1 fonts to use are Helvetica, Courier and Times. Try to create a pdf with these substitutions on and with substitutions off, you'll be surprised how small your pdf can be when the ttf fonts are not embeded. Don't forget that the substitutions are not possible if you embed the ODF document in the pdf (hybrid pdf) because all fonts are then embedded. This is another option that should appear by default, with the « always » choice unchecked but visible to give the user a real choice. Raymond -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fit Text to Contour
** Reply to message from Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net on Tue, 11 Feb 2014 07:33:15 +0100 Hi Jean-Francois, Ok. I haven't used Draw very much at all. F2 was the key. Interesting that if I use the Fontworks Gallery in Writer then the Fontwork functions will let me modify that to my hearts content. The only thing I can't do is to enter the free form line and get text to associate with it. Thanks for hanging in there with me. Your help is much appreciated. Cliff Hello Cliff, Le 11/02/2014 03:29, Cliff Scott a écrit : Tried that and somehow I'm missing something important. I draw a line using the Freeform Line tool from the Draw toolbar. I then use the text tool from the Draw toolbar to enter text. Nope. You select the line and hit F2, so that the text box associated with the line opens, then you enter the text :) I guess I didn't make me clear enough. Perhaps the verb associated is not the right one... This takes me back to the same problem as I had initially, how do I get the text to be associated with the line. Writer will not let me select both the text box and the line at the same time. Could you give me a detailed step by step what works on your system? Thanks. see above. HTH, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fit Text to Contour
** Reply to message from Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net on Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:36:54 +0100 Better late than never... Le 24/01/2014 04:39, Cliff Scott a écrit : I'm trying to use Draw to make up some text to put around pictures in Writer. The help says: Adjust to contour - Adapts the text flow so that it matches the contours of the selected drawing object. For the life of me I can't figure how to connect the text to a shape. I have a text box with text in it and a curve that I drew, but to get the text to follow that curve seems beyond me. I've selected the shape and gone to the menu Format/Text and selected adjust to contour as it says to do, but nothing happens. You'll get what you're looking if you add the Fontwork *toolbutton* (not Fontwork Toolbar) by: a. Tools Customize. b. In Toolbars page select the toolbar you want to add the button to then click Add. c. In the new dialog, select the Format category, Fontwork command. Validate Now you've got the right tool to get going. Usage: 1. draw a line or a shape. 2. enter the associated text to the line/shape, as usual 3. click the Fontwork button and enjoy! HTH, Jean-Francois, Thank you very much for coming back to me on this. I had given up on getting any help. I did as you said and it works pretty well, but takes some getting used to it characteristics. One question remains: Is there a way to put the text on a free form line or only on the shapes the Fontwork Button dialog box has? Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Export PDF
** Reply to message from Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:28:09 +0100 Il 08/02/2014 23:40, Cliff Scott ha scritto: I've run into a strange occurrence in LO 4.1.4. Everytime I export to PDF I get a error message that PDF/A-1a forbids a transparency. Clicking OK allows the export to continue and I don't see any problems in the resultant PDF, but this is something I've only seen on 4.1.4. This happens with Writer and Calc. FYI, I'm running OSx Mavericks. Is this a known problem? Cliff Take this with a grain of salt, as I'm running LO 3.5.7.2 (stock Ubu 12.04), but I think you could get away with it by unchecking the PDF/A-1a checkbox under File-Export as PDF... The option should stick, so LO should produce PDF with transparencies with no fuss from there on. My 2 cents. Thanks for your 2 cents. It does, in fact, not have any problems using the other PDF modes. Guess Tagged mode is the standard these days anyhow. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fit Text to Contour
** Reply to message from Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:10 +0100 Le 10/02/2014 16:59, Cliff Scott a écrit : One question remains: Is there a way to put the text on a free form line or only on the shapes the Fontwork Button dialog box has? Yes, of course. Just draw a line by hand and associate (enter) the text you want. While it is selected, call the Fontwork tool. There, do *not* use the upper rounded shapes. Instead, use directly one of the four tools just below to setup the text along the line you drew. You should achieve what you're looking for. Jean-Francois Tried that and somehow I'm missing something important. I draw a line using the Freeform Line tool from the Draw toolbar. I then use the text tool from the Draw toolbar to enter text. When I enter the text the Fontwork window opens. I then choose one of the 4 tools you suggest and the text follows the contour of the text box. The line is totally ignored. If I select the line the Fontworks tool is grayed out and unavailable. This takes me back to the same problem as I had initially, how do I get the text to be associated with the line. Writer will not let me select both the text box and the line at the same time. Could you give me a detailed step by step what works on your system? Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Export PDF
I've run into a strange occurrence in LO 4.1.4. Everytime I export to PDF I get a error message that PDF/A-1a forbids a transparency. Clicking OK allows the export to continue and I don't see any problems in the resultant PDF, but this is something I've only seen on 4.1.4. This happens with Writer and Calc. FYI, I'm running OSx Mavericks. Is this a known problem? Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Export PDF
Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-02-08 23:40 GMT+01:00 Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com: I've run into a strange occurrence in LO 4.1.4. Everytime I export to PDF I get a error message that PDF/A-1a forbids a transparency. Clicking OK allows the export to continue and I don't see any problems in the resultant PDF, but this is something I've only seen on 4.1.4. This happens with Writer and Calc. FYI, I'm running OSx Mavericks. Is this a known problem? ?I can tell you that it did happen with previous versions. It's only shown if you have transparent items in the document, so it might not show up all the time. Now, to know what is transparent is more complicated. It could be an image with an alpha channel (even if completely opaque). It might also be anything that LO treat as transparent (maybe borders, some special characters, etc... I don't really know). The thing is, if your output is correct, it's probably the kind of transparent item that get converted to white image over white background... no worries. However, a bit of warning from personal experience: a few years ago, some people (mainly using Acrobat Reader I believe) couldn't open PDF/A-1, while these same files would open fine on pretty much anything: gnome document viewer, kde viewer (okular), foxit on windows... Pretty funny if you consider that PDF/A-1 is supposed to work for long term storage. You should double-check that your files open with this certain reader, just to be sure :) Cley, I appreciate your comments. I don't know much about the various PDF formats and don't know how I ended up with that format. For some reason I guess at some time I thought it was the best generally readable format. I notice if I uncheck that format it jumps to Create PDF Form with 4 format options. Since I'm not making forms it seems as if that isn't the best option. Tagged PDF seems to be the only option left. Is that the recommended format? The help implies that the fonts are only imbedded in PDF/A-1a so does that mean that someone opening a Tagged Format PDF may have problems if they don't have the same fonts installed? I thought that wasn't supposed to be the case. In testing I have just done, the PDF/A-1a came out as 89k, Tagged - 83k and Create PDF Form using the PDF format ended up as 67k. I normally am looking for the smallest size so as not to burden people with slow access speeds. All three are readable in Acrobat as well as Preview on my Mac. There's no way I can know what reader everyone will be using if there are any issues any more. Any further comments are welcome. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Merging PDFs
** Reply to message from Peter West li...@pbw.id.au on Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:04:39 +1000 Peter, Could you explain off list how to do it with Preview? I've looked it over and there is no obvious way I can see to do it. Thanks. Cliff Another way to manipulate PDFs is with PDFBox. https://pdfbox.apache.org/index.html If you're on a Mac, you can just use Preview. However, these things are not designed to modify the layout of pages. PDF is a page definition format; it defines the layout of pages. There are only very limited changes you can make. Changing layouts means going back to sources and re-creating the PDFs. On 29/01/2014 2:32 pm, Anthony Baldwin wrote: On 01/28/2014 09:50 PM, Don Myers wrote: Hi Charles, I'm not aware of any way to merge multiple pdf files using LO. The only way I know to merge pdf files with with pdftk. http://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/ Works great. tony There are others on the list more knowledgeable than I, so maybe it can be done. There is a free, open source program that I've used to merge multiple PDF files into one file called PDFsam. It is available for Linux, Windows, and Mac. In Ubuntu there is an older version in the software center. That is what I've used. It has always worked well. Don On 01/28/2014 08:41 PM, charles meyer wrote: I've got 3 or so separate PDF files. I'd like to merge them all into one PDF file in Writer in Office 3.6.2.2 Each page of each PDF file has a lot of empty space around the graphic image. Ex. 2 inches above and below the graphic on each page and a good 3 inches on each side of each graphic is white, empty space. Is there a way to eliminate all the empty space around each graphic in in each page in each PDF or once all the PDFs are merged into one larger PDF? Thanks so much, Charles. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Merging PDFs
** Reply to message from Peter West li...@pbw.id.au on Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:53:32 +1000 Thanks Peter. It works as you described. The quirk to watch out for is to drag the page to be inserted after the existing page and NOT below the cutoff line on the thumbnail list. If you put it below the line then when you save, what is below the line is not saved. If above the line then it is all as advertised. I selected all the pages I wanted to copy at once since they were going to be at the end of the initial document. Worked slick. Cliff It's a bit fiddly. You need to experiment a bit, because there are certain quirks in the process, and I don't remember them all off the top of my head. For example, you may find that you can only insert a page in front of an existing page, in which case, you will have to work from the last document, backwards. I'll assume here that you can insert after an existing page. Copy the first document you want to merge, and open it in Preview. Open the thumbnails sidebar. Now open the next document, and open its thumbnails panel. The safest but slowest way to do this is to select one page at a time from the thumbnails of the second document, and drag that thumbnail into the thumbnail panel of the first document. Save your resulting document. You have to be careful with the positioning of the inserted page, because you can end up with multiple documents within the target pdf. You might be Ok with that. This outcome seems to be more likely when you select multiple pages from the source document. Try it out. Make sure that, as you complete the merge of one document, you make a separate copy of the merged result, so that if things subsequently go wrong, you don't have to start from the beginning. Let me know how you go. On 30/01/2014 2:28 am, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Peter West li...@pbw.id.au on Wed, 29 Jan 2014 23:04:39 +1000 Peter, Could you explain off list how to do it with Preview? I've looked it over and there is no obvious way I can see to do it. Thanks. Cliff Another way to manipulate PDFs is with PDFBox. https://pdfbox.apache.org/index.html If you're on a Mac, you can just use Preview. -- Peter West Other seed fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked it... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fit Text to Contour
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com on Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:32:17 + Tom, This is not about wrapping, but making text fit a contour that I define. Cliff Hi :) Do you have the text-box in the background? Then the image overlapping the text-box. Set the wrap options for the image to make the text flow around it? Perhaps optimal page wrap or something? Regards from Tom :) On 24 January 2014 03:39, Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com wrote: I'm trying to use Draw to make up some text to put around pictures in Writer. The help says: Adjust to contour - Adapts the text flow so that it matches the contours of the selected drawing object. For the life of me I can't figure how to connect the text to a shape. I have a text box with text in it and a curve that I drew, but to get the text to follow that curve seems beyond me. I've selected the shape and gone to the menu Format/Text and selected adjust to contour as it says to do, but nothing happens. Then I selected both at the same time and still nothing. When I double click the line and start typing the text writes on a horizontal line and covers the line where it intersects it. This also in Help: To enter text on a line, double-click the line and type or paste your text. The text direction corresponds to the direction you dragged to draw the line. To hide the line, select Invisible in the Line Style box on the Drawing Object Properties bar. Can't make that work either. It seems as it I am blind or some key is missing in the help. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: Query
** Forwarding message from Ernest Dale ernest.dal...@gmail.com on Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:28:22 + Thanks to everyone who has taken interest in my problem Having now got Approach to work I am sticking with it. My new problem is how to deal with the influx of help from well-wishers! Ernest On 21 January 2014 04:24, Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com wrote: ** Reply to message from Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com on Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:19:13 +0100 Le 19/01/2014 16:02, Tom Davies a écrit : Tom, Can Base directly connect to a Lotus Approach database and use it as the back-end? No. Never has and probably never will. @Ernest, Have you still got access to the old Windows and thus the Lotus Approach directly or was this an upgrade (or a machine exchange or some sort)? I take it you exported the data as a .csv file and that is what is looking like a flat spreadsheet? Lotus Approach saves its databases as an APR file extension, but the actual data is stored as a group of DBF tables. Any binary (e.g. image) data or extended character data (Memo fields, etc) are stored in a separate DBT file which is referenced in some way by the APR file and thus appears in the DBF file that contains the binary field. It was/is for its time a brilliant piece of kit that held its own with Access and FMPro. It had an accessible UI and form builder, had a fairly competent SQL parser, and could even be scripted with Lotus Smartscript. In fact, from the user perspective, it was intuitive, everything which LO Base is not. I fully understand why people have stuck with it. However, it was essentially, single OS (well it did run on OS/2 as well for a while in Windows compatibility mode), as the software was provided for the Windows platform only. Alex, Slight correction, Approach was written for OS/2 Warp4 as well as Windoz. I am using ver 1.6 on eCS running in VBox on my Mac. As you say it is very intuitive and easy to make queries. I would change over to Base if it was straight forward, but there's no way Base would be anywhere near as easy to use so I'm sticking to eCS. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: Query
** Forwarding message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:24:49 -0600 This was sent to me and should have been sent to the list. ** Reply to message from Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com on Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:19:13 +0100 Le 19/01/2014 16:02, Tom Davies a écrit : Tom, Can Base directly connect to a Lotus Approach database and use it as the back-end? No. Never has and probably never will. @Ernest, Have you still got access to the old Windows and thus the Lotus Approach directly or was this an upgrade (or a machine exchange or some sort)? I take it you exported the data as a .csv file and that is what is looking like a flat spreadsheet? Lotus Approach saves its databases as an APR file extension, but the actual data is stored as a group of DBF tables. Any binary (e.g. image) data or extended character data (Memo fields, etc) are stored in a separate DBT file which is referenced in some way by the APR file and thus appears in the DBF file that contains the binary field. It was/is for its time a brilliant piece of kit that held its own with Access and FMPro. It had an accessible UI and form builder, had a fairly competent SQL parser, and could even be scripted with Lotus Smartscript. In fact, from the user perspective, it was intuitive, everything which LO Base is not. I fully understand why people have stuck with it. However, it was essentially, single OS (well it did run on OS/2 as well for a while in Windows compatibility mode), as the software was provided for the Windows platform only. Alex, Slight correction, Approach was written for OS/2 Warp4 as well as Windoz. I am using ver 1.6 on eCS running in VBox on my Mac. As you say it is very intuitive and easy to make queries. I would change over to Base if it was straight forward, but there's no way Base would be anywhere near as easy to use so I'm sticking to eCS. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Query
** Reply to message from Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com on Mon, 20 Jan 2014 09:19:13 +0100 Le 19/01/2014 16:02, Tom Davies a écrit : Tom, Can Base directly connect to a Lotus Approach database and use it as the back-end? No. Never has and probably never will. @Ernest, Have you still got access to the old Windows and thus the Lotus Approach directly or was this an upgrade (or a machine exchange or some sort)? I take it you exported the data as a .csv file and that is what is looking like a flat spreadsheet? Lotus Approach saves its databases as an APR file extension, but the actual data is stored as a group of DBF tables. Any binary (e.g. image) data or extended character data (Memo fields, etc) are stored in a separate DBT file which is referenced in some way by the APR file and thus appears in the DBF file that contains the binary field. It was/is for its time a brilliant piece of kit that held its own with Access and FMPro. It had an accessible UI and form builder, had a fairly competent SQL parser, and could even be scripted with Lotus Smartscript. In fact, from the user perspective, it was intuitive, everything which LO Base is not. I fully understand why people have stuck with it. However, it was essentially, single OS (well it did run on OS/2 as well for a while in Windows compatibility mode), as the software was provided for the Windows platform only. Alex, Slight correction, Approach was written for OS/2 Warp4 as well as Windoz. I am using ver 1.6 on eCS running in VBox on my Mac. As you say it is very intuitive and easy to make queries. I would change over to Base if it was straight forward, but there's no way Base would be anywhere near as easy to use so I'm sticking to eCS. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Table of Contents - Crash
** Reply to message from Tinkerer j_taylo...@btinternet.com on Mon, 30 Dec 2013 04:30:08 -0800 (PST) I am using an iMac 10.9.1. and LO 4.1.2. and whenever I enter Insert Indexes and Tables Indexes and Tables, LO crashes and I have to recover. I tried re-Boot, re-Download LO to no avail. Downloaded LO 4.2.1 and it works. Can someone confirm a bug in LO4.1.2 Tink In LO 4.1.4 on a MacBook Pro 10.9.1 the same combination brings up the expected dialog box. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
** Reply to message from Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:10:24 + At 07:46 18/12/2013 -0600, Cliff Scott wrote: Initially I just want a sheet with all the labels the same. [...] For now I can obviously copy/paste to each label, but the wizard's way of entering data for one then propagating it to all is handy for like a set of return address labels. If you are using a table, have you tried my suggestion in a related thread? o Put the cursor in the cell containing the text. o Press Ctrl+A to select all the text in that cell. o Press Ctrl+C to copy that text. o Press Ctrl+A again to select the entire table. o Press Ctrl+V to paste copies of the text into all the cells at once. I trust this helps. Thanks Brian. Saw that after I sent my email. Should work fine. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
** Reply to message from Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com on Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:53:17 -0500 Don, Initially I just want a sheet with all the labels the same. Being able to fill a sheet with addresses from a database or even directly print envelopes may be in the future. For now I can obviously copy/paste to each label, but the wizard's way of entering data for one then propagating it to all is handy for like a set of return address labels. Cliff Hi Cliff, Are you using fields from a data base, or do you simply want something like return labels where every label is the same? Don On 12/17/2013 10:06 AM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com on Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:48:12 -0500 Don, Thanks for the link to the templates, but, pardon my ignorance, what is the proper way to setup a table based template? The wizard is useful, but, as already discussed, the built-in templates often don't work well. If the built in ones could be replaced with these table based ones and still have the wizard work it would be the best of both worlds. Cliff Hi Virgil, They have really worked well for me. With the frame based templates, I always had trouble with the spacing on the labels changing as you would get into the bottom third of the label sheet. The frame based templates print out perfectly from top to bottom, and they are so easy to adjust. I've left similar posts when people have had issues before, but it seems very few are willing to try the table based formats. Maybe they try to use the wizard, which is not the way to set up a table based template. Don On 12/16/2013 08:11 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Don, Thank you for this. I knew I had seen something like that before. LO uses a frame based label template. I agree that a table based template makes far more sense. Virgil -Original Message- From: Don C. Myers Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:34 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels About 5 or 6 years ago when using OpenOffice to print Christmas labels, I ran across an article about using table style labels in OpenOffice instead of the type which come with Word, OpenOffice, and LibreOffice. It is far easier to adjust the table style labels. To adjust the top spacing, simply adjust the top margin for the page. To adjust the column width, simply drag the column borders and the entire column is adjusted. At one time OpenOffice had these label templates available as an extension. I don't know if they still do or not. But they are available from World Label here: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm They can be downloaded individually, or all together as a pdf. I've found them much easier to use and adjust, and have never used any other label templates since then. Also, when you enter the text or fields in them, the text is starts with being paced in the center of the label between the top and the bottom, and then as additional lines are added, the text of fields are automatically centered within the label itself, top to bottom. I've never used the standard templates with OpenOffice or LibreOffice since finding these. Nor have I wasted any sheets of labels because they didn't print properly. Don ---Extra trimmed--- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
** Reply to message from Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com on Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:48:12 -0500 Don, Thanks for the link to the templates, but, pardon my ignorance, what is the proper way to setup a table based template? The wizard is useful, but, as already discussed, the built-in templates often don't work well. If the built in ones could be replaced with these table based ones and still have the wizard work it would be the best of both worlds. Cliff Hi Virgil, They have really worked well for me. With the frame based templates, I always had trouble with the spacing on the labels changing as you would get into the bottom third of the label sheet. The frame based templates print out perfectly from top to bottom, and they are so easy to adjust. I've left similar posts when people have had issues before, but it seems very few are willing to try the table based formats. Maybe they try to use the wizard, which is not the way to set up a table based template. Don On 12/16/2013 08:11 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Don, Thank you for this. I knew I had seen something like that before. LO uses a frame based label template. I agree that a table based template makes far more sense. Virgil -Original Message- From: Don C. Myers Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:34 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels About 5 or 6 years ago when using OpenOffice to print Christmas labels, I ran across an article about using table style labels in OpenOffice instead of the type which come with Word, OpenOffice, and LibreOffice. It is far easier to adjust the table style labels. To adjust the top spacing, simply adjust the top margin for the page. To adjust the column width, simply drag the column borders and the entire column is adjusted. At one time OpenOffice had these label templates available as an extension. I don't know if they still do or not. But they are available from World Label here: http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm They can be downloaded individually, or all together as a pdf. I've found them much easier to use and adjust, and have never used any other label templates since then. Also, when you enter the text or fields in them, the text is starts with being paced in the center of the label between the top and the bottom, and then as additional lines are added, the text of fields are automatically centered within the label itself, top to bottom. I've never used the standard templates with OpenOffice or LibreOffice since finding these. Nor have I wasted any sheets of labels because they didn't print properly. Don ---Extra trimmed--- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
** Reply to message from A publicf...@bak.rr.com on Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:45:54 -0800 Now I see how the existing FV would do what I needed to do. What threw me was that it says to enter a payment value which there is none except the interest accrued. Reading the info on the Wiki page explains that one can use 0 as the payment then get the value including the compound interest. It would be very helpful if the Help file included that key bit of information. I was surprised that LO didn't have what would be a common financial function, but in fact it did, I just didn't recognize it. Cliff Now that Dave was kind enough to translate the problem into common financial terms I recognize, finding the FV function is easy. Menu-Insert-Function-Select Financial-FV OR, use the function wizard to accomplish the same. I've always hated word problems, I could never translate words into math equations. But the OP asked about calculating compound interest which is not the same as future value. Calculating FV is definitely an important first step. This link: http://www.ehow.com/how_2166243_calculate-compound-interest.html shows the same formula Dave provided (albeit Dave's formula was much more helpful), but they go the extra step of showing that the compound interest is actually the Future Value minus the Present Value. I had to scratch my head over this a few times and re-read the link quite a few times before I finally saw the answer sitting there in front of me. They calculate the interest on $1000 in the example link - show that FV = 1210, and finally show that the interest ends up being the FV of $1210 minus the original PV of $1000: so interest earned is $210. I would never have recognized the formula in the link as being FV, and so without Dave's help I couldn't have figured any of this out. On 11/27/2013 04:12 PM, Dave Liesse wrote: I've had troubles in the past finding specific financial functions, as well. Can't help from the function standpoint in this case, but you could always fall back on the actual equation: FV = PV*(1+i)^n where FV is future value, PV is present value, i is the periodic interest rate, and n is the number of periods. Dave On 11/27/2013 15:10, Cliff Scott wrote: I haven't done much spread sheet formula work so please don't mind a couple of simple questions. I would like to do two things: 1. Calculate compound interest on an amount given the rate and number of interest periods. Looking at the list of functions there are lots of ones that come close to that, but I wasn't able to find one that would do exact that. 2. How do I write a conditional loop in Calc? If I want to calculate a formula for 10 iterations how would I do that? For instance Value=Value*N+Value. That would give me the compound interest also. I can do it with a bunch of cells strung out each one representing one interest period, but for any length of time it becomes unwieldy. Thank you very much for any help. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
** Reply to message from Dave Liesse dslie...@liessefamily.net on Wed, 27 Nov 2013 16:12:16 -0800 Dave, Thank you for the formula! I figured out how to enter it as a user function so it's easy to use. Thanks again. Cliff I've had troubles in the past finding specific financial functions, as well. Can't help from the function standpoint in this case, but you could always fall back on the actual equation: FV = PV*(1+i)^n where FV is future value, PV is present value, i is the periodic interest rate, and n is the number of periods. Dave On 11/27/2013 15:10, Cliff Scott wrote: I haven't done much spread sheet formula work so please don't mind a couple of simple questions. I would like to do two things: 1. Calculate compound interest on an amount given the rate and number of interest periods. Looking at the list of functions there are lots of ones that come close to that, but I wasn't able to find one that would do exact that. 2. How do I write a conditional loop in Calc? If I want to calculate a formula for 10 iterations how would I do that? For instance Value=Value*N+Value. That would give me the compound interest also. I can do it with a bunch of cells strung out each one representing one interest period, but for any length of time it becomes unwieldy. Thank you very much for any help. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Question
I haven't done much spread sheet formula work so please don't mind a couple of simple questions. I would like to do two things: 1. Calculate compound interest on an amount given the rate and number of interest periods. Looking at the list of functions there are lots of ones that come close to that, but I wasn't able to find one that would do exact that. 2. How do I write a conditional loop in Calc? If I want to calculate a formula for 10 iterations how would I do that? For instance Value=Value*N+Value. That would give me the compound interest also. I can do it with a bunch of cells strung out each one representing one interest period, but for any length of time it becomes unwieldy. Thank you very much for any help. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report -- LibreOffice version 4.1.3.2
** Reply to message from A publicf...@bak.rr.com on Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:55:26 -0800 Great! I just tested this and it does use the date/time last modified. You don't need to tick anything else, just insert the field. Works it should. Thanks for tracking this option down. Will be very useful. Cliff I haven't tested this, but a quick perusal led me to: Insert-Fields-Other-DocInformation TAB-Modified-Select Date/Time... may need to tick Fixed Content checkbox, I don't know. Which isn't necessarily the date the file is _saved_, but _appears to be_ the date the file was *_last modified_* which I suspect is what the OP really wanted. On 11/24/2013 05:31 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com on Sun, 24 Nov 2013 03:10:49 + At 20:34 23/11/2013 -0500, Don C. Myers wrote: About a year to a year and a half ago the question was asked on this list about when a date is filled in automatically, how it can be saved as the date that the file is saved, and the file will open automatically with the saved date instead of the current date the next time it is opened. Go to Insert | Fields | Other... | Document. Under Type select Date and under Select select Date - not Date (fixed). One point of confusion is that at Insert | Fields you will see a Date entry - but this is actually the Date (fixed) variety, not the (variable) Date that you need. So ignore that and proceed to Other... . I trust this helps. Brian Barker Brian, This gives a date and or time that updates everytime the file is opened, not only when edited which it appears is what the poster was looking for. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report -- Libre Ofice version 4.1.3.2
** Reply to message from william drescher will...@techservsys.com on Sat, 23 Nov 2013 08:01:57 -0500 On 11/23/2013 12:50 AM, Robert Baker wrote: 1) There is no way (that I have found) to insert the date and time as text; the only option is to insert them as a field, meaning that the next time the document is opened, the date and time shown would be when it was re-opened, rather than when it was last edited which is what I want. I had to take the file back into MS Word just to add the date and time, but I want to be rid of Word. The simple way of adding a date: Insert-fields-date will add a date that does not change. You have to go through a few more steps to get a date that is current when the file is opened. So, no problem with this one. I will leave the other questions to those that are more expert. bill Just to clarify this a little more, in Writer the default seems to be to insert a fixed date and or time. If you RMB on the field and select field from the popup menu that will give you all the options for format and whether it is a fixed value or updates each time it is opened. Calc is a different story. It seems as if there is no way, at least according to the Help file, to use a fixed date field in a footer or header. I have to manually insert the date as text if I don't want it to change. Of course fixed dates and times can also be manually inserted in cells. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report -- Libre Ofice version 4.1.3.2
** Reply to message from Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com on Sat, 23 Nov 2013 20:34:16 -0500 The question is how to automate it. One could manually delete the date field and reenter it when editing. That way it would have the current date and not change, but automation could be a challenge. Cliff Hi Everyone, About a year to a year and a half ago the question was asked on this list about when a date is filled in automatically, how it can be saved as the date that the file is saved, and the file will open automatically with the saved date instead of the current date the next time it is opened. The answer was fairly simple. I have minimal need for this and didn't write it down. Maybe the regulars to this list will remember the answer. Don On 11/23/2013 08:14 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think what the Original Poster was seeking was a semi-fixed date. A fixed date would simply be the same as if one typed in the date by hand. It would never change. A dynamic date field would change every time the date changed. What I think the OP wants is for the field to reflect the date on which the file was last edited and saved. So, oversimplifying the question, there would be three possible dates -- the original date the file was created, the last time the file was edited and saved, and the current date (whenever that may be). It appears from a quick glance at LO's field dialogs that one can get the first and third options, but not the second. But, I'm not an expert on date fields. While I agree this might be helpful, I would not characterize it as a bug. Perhaps a feature request (if in fact LO can't do what the OP wants) Virgil -Original Message- From: Cliff Scott Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:11 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report -- Libre Ofice version 4.1.3.2 ** Reply to message from william drescher will...@techservsys.com on Sat, 23 Nov 2013 08:01:57 -0500 On 11/23/2013 12:50 AM, Robert Baker wrote: 1) There is no way (that I have found) to insert the date and time as text; the only option is to insert them as a field, meaning that the next time the document is opened, the date and time shown would be when it was re-opened, rather than when it was last edited which is what I want. I had to take the file back into MS Word just to add the date and time, but I want to be rid of Word. The simple way of adding a date: Insert-fields-date will add a date that does not change. You have to go through a few more steps to get a date that is current when the file is opened. So, no problem with this one. I will leave the other questions to those that are more expert. bill Just to clarify this a little more, in Writer the default seems to be to insert a fixed date and or time. If you RMB on the field and select field from the popup menu that will give you all the options for format and whether it is a fixed value or updates each time it is opened. Calc is a different story. It seems as if there is no way, at least according to the Help file, to use a fixed date field in a footer or header. I have to manually insert the date as text if I don't want it to change. Of course fixed dates and times can also be manually inserted in cells. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Would somebody be able to help a newbe to LibreOffice.
** Reply to message from John Meyer johnme...@pueblocomputing.com on Thu, 07 Nov 2013 18:29:14 -0700 To be more specific: If you only want to keep the column labels visible, put the cursor in the far left column (before column A) on row 2 then go to the Window menu item and select freeze. All column headers in row 1 will stay visible as you scroll everything below them. If you don't go to the far left column it will still work, but make a darker line to the left of the column that you selected. I don't know any way to keep just one or several columns frozen and scroll the others. HTH, Cliff _W_indow-_F_reeze Place cursor underneath row you want to stay still. HTH On 11/7/2013 6:21 PM, Bill Gassner wrote: Hi All, Thanks for responding to my call for help. Here is the situation: I have a LibreOffice Cal sheet with rows 1-34 with text. Rows 35-40 with titles above 7 colums. Rows 41-100 is entries. I would like to modify document so that rows 35-40 stay fixed when I scroll down to say column 100. This way the titles of the seven columns would always be visible. I know this can be done. What formula would I use and where would I put that? Many thanks in advance Bill -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3.2
** Reply to message from NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 23:00:26 -0800 On 11/04/2013 12:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5). Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange, but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a newsletter I publish. Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up. I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this issue. ... Sorry, can't help you with a Mac, but... I copied the Calibri fonts from my Win7 partition and placed in my ~/.fonts folder on linux. Updated the font cache (sudo fc-cache -f -v), opened LO 4.1.3.2 (Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38), and both Calibri and Calibri Light show up in the font menu work just fine. Note: When you use a Calibri (or any other font set) you can see the options available via 'Format|Character'. I'm showing the following: Calibri - Regular|Bold|Italic|Bold italic Calibri Light - Light|Light Italic|Bold|Bold Italic I'll now purge the font(s) due to licencing issues. :-) I find that FreeSans 11 is a very close match to Calibri 12. You might want to give that a try. http://www.gnu.org/software/freefont/ NoOp - thanks for your ideas. They gave me a clue how to work around the issue. It's not the ideal way and the results are not exactly what I wanted, but may be useable. Going into Format/Character I find that the Light option is listed under Calibri, but unfortunately Light Bold isn't listed so when I bold the Light font it ends up as the Regular Calibri Bold and not Light Bold that it should be. Apparently LO 4.1.3.2 tries to combine the two fonts into one family rather than keep them separate. The Mac Font Book also lists them as one family where in fact they are two families with a common base name. Somehow LO 4.0.5 keeps them separate, but 4.1.3.2 doesn't. As I said earlier Open Office also sees them as separate families. At least now I have a better handle on what's happening. Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.3.2
** Reply to message from Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:07:45 -0500 Thanks for the reply. Would you tell us if it is a .ttf, .otf, or some other font extension type. It is .ttf I do not have Calibri Light, just normal, italic, bold, and bold-italic. All of them are .ttf Initally all I had in that family was the same ones as you had then found the Light version which actually is Light and Light Italic. There was a similar font listing bug last year or early this year. I do not remember which version it was that had the missing font in that Mac system. Is there any reason why could cannot use 4.0.5 or 4.0.6, till the font issues are worked out? I can continue using 4.0.5 just fine, just wanted to upgrade and found the problem. I had a problem with the font scroll-down dialog box for the fonts in 4.1.2 [Ubuntu 64-bit], which was a show-stopper for me, but I am perfectly happy to still use 4.0.5 or 4.0.6 till they get the bug fixes done. Just to through this out, can you copy the font in the internal font folder for LO? I know that there is a folder in Ubuntu/Debian for LO fonts /etc/libreoffice4.0/share/fonts/truetype/ There are 69 fonts and a file called fc_local.conf in that folder. So I wonder if your Mac has a similar root folder for LibreOffice, there might be a place there to copy that font to so it is within LO's internal list of fonts and not looking for the font folder that shares fonts with all of the installed packages. Same thing on the Mac. Same files in that folder also. I tried adding the font files to that directory with no joy. Probably needs some process to install so it can see them. Guess I'll have to file a bug as it makes no sense to have the font appear in one version and not in the other. Cliff On 11/04/2013 03:38 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5). Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange, but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a newsletter I publish. Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up. I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this issue. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions. Cliff Hi Y'all, I have been using LO 4.0.5 for some time and just installed 4.1.3.2. Opened a document that I had been doing in 4.0.5 and found that 4.1.3.2 doesn't see one of my fonts, Calibri Light. It doesn't appear in the list of fonts at all. Only the base Calibri appears. In 4.0.5 both the base and the Light appear as separate fonts in the font dropdown list. I'm running OSx 10.7.5 on a MacBook Pro. Checked via the Font Book app and Calibri Light appears normally. Validated the font and no problems were found. Interestingly Calibri Light was the last font I have installed. Even reinstalled it. I would normally reboot to make sure something wasn't just funny that would be corrected by rebooting, but can't do that right now. Ideas anyone? Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.3.2
** Reply to message from Marc Grober m...@interak.com on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:06:32 -0900 Hi Marc, Thanks for the reply. I guess I should first ask if you open a doc that has text formatted as Calibri Light, what font is it being shown as under 4.1.2.3, what is the provenance of the Calibri Light, have you confirmed that the font is available for all uses and all users, and whether it is not only activated but enabled (two different things). Have tried a document formatted with Calibri Light and just a blank new doc. Calibri Light does not show up in the dropdown font list at the top of the page in LO 4.1.3.2. In the document itself the text formatted with Calibri Light shows Calibri Light in italics at the top of the LO window indicating that LO doesn't find the font and is substituting another font. Same doc in LO 4.0.5 shows Calibri Light in the dropdown list as well as correctly using the font in the document. I am the only user on the machine. I have checked that it is available, enabled and verified using the OSx Font Book app. that comes with OSx. I went so far as to remove the whole Calibri Font family from the system, rebooted and verified it was gone then reinstalled the Calibri Family again. The symptoms after that were identical to before. Seems to me that if one version sees the font that it is available to the system and the issue has to be with LO 4.1.3.2. Then I might suggest logging out of your account on the subject machine, logging in with a new account, creating a new document, checking the default font, and then typing some text and try to format it as calibri Light. This should resolve all questions as to whether the issue has something to do with your pre-existing preferences, non-availability as a system, font, etc. If no joy, download Scrivener, install and test and see if Calibri Light shows up and is usable. If not, then there is an issue with your font, if it does then you may be looking at a bug Opened OpenOffice and it sees the font just fine. Actually it sees better that LO 4.0.5 in that it shows Calibri Light and Calibri Light Italic in the font list. LO 4.0.5 only shows Calibri Light. Time for a bug report it seems to me. Cliff On 11/4/13, 11:38 AM, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com on Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:29:02 -0500 Reminder: This is on a Mac with OSx Lion (10.7.5). Sorry for replying to my own message, but I finally rebooted and no help. I removed the whole family of fonts and reinstalled them and still LO 4.1..3.2 will not recognize Calibri Light. This is mind boggling to me since, as far as I can see, it sees all the other installed fonts. This may sound strange, but without this font I cannot use this version. This is a key font in a newsletter I publish. Please, if anyone has any ideas what can be done to make this work speak up. I would very much like to upgrade to the 4.1.3.2 version, but can't with this issue. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions. Cliff Hi Y'all, I have been using LO 4.0.5 for some time and just installed 4.1.3.2. Opened a document that I had been doing in 4.0.5 and found that 4.1.3.2 doesn't see one of my fonts, Calibri Light. It doesn't appear in the list of fonts at all. Only the base Calibri appears. In 4.0.5 both the base and the Light appear as separate fonts in the font dropdown list. I'm running OSx 10.7.5 on a MacBook Pro. Checked via the Font Book app and Calibri Light appears normally. Validated the font and no problems were found. Interestingly Calibri Light was the last font I have installed. Even reinstalled it. I would normally reboot to make sure something wasn't just funny that would be corrected by rebooting, but can't do that right now. Ideas anyone? Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.3.2
Hi Y'all, I have been using LO 4.0.5 for some time and just installed 4.1.3.2. Opened a document that I had been doing in 4.0.5 and found that 4.1.3.2 doesn't see one of my fonts, Calibri Light. It doesn't appear in the list of fonts at all. Only the base Calibri appears. In 4.0.5 both the base and the Light appear as separate fonts in the font dropdown list. I'm running OSx 10.7.5 on a MacBook Pro. Checked via the Font Book app and Calibri Light appears normally. Validated the font and no problems were found. Interestingly Calibri Light was the last font I have installed. Even reinstalled it. I would normally reboot to make sure something wasn't just funny that would be corrected by rebooting, but can't do that right now. Ideas anyone? Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Duplicate messages
** Reply to message from James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com on Thu, 03 Oct 2013 08:09:19 -0400 I've been seeing duplicates for a couple of days now. Virgil Arrington wrote: So, you should get two copies of this email. However, I've never had to wait 2-3 days for the second copy. It usually comes within minutes of the first message. This morning I received some from Sept 30 and Oct. 1, including one from me, which I had already seen. When I first noticed this, I checked my trash folder and saw there were indeed duplicates. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Uninstall ?
** Reply to message from Sheafe Ewing sheafe.ew...@gmail.com on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:08:15 -0700 Have read the ReadMe Notes after downloading LibreOffice 4.1.0 Is it necessary to uninstall version 4.0.3.3 before installing the newest version 4.1.0 Using Mac OS 10.8.4 Thx Just install and it will ask you if you want to overwrite the old one or keep two copies. I usually keep both for a while in case there are problems with the new one. Each one runs independently of the other. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:21:58 +0100 (BST) Hi Tom, I appreciate your thoughts. I'm sure I don't understand all the integration of the modules. I don't have an internet connection right now so can't look at the suggested resource, but will when I can. Using the LO help file and trying all the menu options I can find I don't see any way to put page breaks in a draw image. I can select different parts of the image, but I see nothing regarding page breaks and the cursor will not stop anywhere alongside the image to allow one to select a page break even if there was an menu item for it as there is in Writer. Could you explain in more detail how I would go about doing this? The best I could get from the Help was to do it as I did with selecting portions and copy/paste into Writer. Cliff Hi :) You are not yet thinking in the LO way. The modules/apps (such as Writer, Calc, Draw) are not separate programs in the way you seem to be trying to use them. This is very different from MS Office. With MSO if you open 2 of the apps then you pretty much double the amount of space taken up in Ram and double the resources used. Why not just create the page-breaks in Draw? Even if you do get the Pdf into Writer and save as an Odt rather than an Odg it still doesn't become any more editable than it is as an Odg. Pdf is made to be uneditable. That is part of it's aim. It's because it is uneditable that it appears the same on every machine or printer in any OS or program that displays Pdf, or at least that's the aim. You might find it helpful to skim quickly through the Getting Started Guide and see if some things in there catch your eye https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards from Tom :) From: Cliff Scott c...@intergate.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013, 3:54 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer I had a one page PDF file that I wanted to break into multiple pages. Opening the PDF with LO resulted in LO Draw opening with the file nicely displayed. I saved it as a draw image (odg) and then expected to be able to directly import it to Writer. Unfortunately I could find no way to do that. Even using copy/paste resulted in a black page since the image was larger than one page. My hope was to have it come in and naturally break into multiple pages. As a last resort I selected a portion of the image in Draw , copy/pasted it into Writer, inserted a page break then repeated the action on multiple pages until the entire image was in Writer. It seems as if there must be a more elegant way to do this. I have never used Draw before so I'm just trying to figure out the details. To be useful it seems as if there must be an easy way to move from Draw into Writer or Calc. Can someone help me see what I'm missing? Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Importing image from LO Draw (ODG) to Writer
I had a one page PDF file that I wanted to break into multiple pages. Opening the PDF with LO resulted in LO Draw opening with the file nicely displayed. I saved it as a draw image (odg) and then expected to be able to directly import it to Writer. Unfortunately I could find no way to do that. Even using copy/paste resulted in a black page since the image was larger than one page. My hope was to have it come in and naturally break into multiple pages. As a last resort I selected a portion of the image in Draw , copy/pasted it into Writer, inserted a page break then repeated the action on multiple pages until the entire image was in Writer. It seems as if there must be a more elegant way to do this. I have never used Draw before so I'm just trying to figure out the details. To be useful it seems as if there must be an easy way to move from Draw into Writer or Calc. Can someone help me see what I'm missing? Thanks. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Printing with HP 960C Deskjet
Fellow LibreOffice users - I am running LO on a Mac, OSx 10.7.5 and the printer is a HP 960C Deskjet. There are no native OSx drivers for the 960C so I've loaded drivers from Guten Print, Hpijs and also an HP 9800. All three work fine with every OSx app including OpenOffice 3.4.1. In LO the print dialog does not use the normal OSx dialog that every other app uses, but has its own. That dialog does not allow me to select Dual sided printing or Print Quality other than Draft, among other missing, but not so important settings. Is there any way around this? Why does LO do its own thing and not use the normal dialogs? I have to have OpenOffice installed just to print properly. Very wasteful of time and resources. LO has fixed a number of things that are not fixed in OO so I'd much rather use LO all the way, except for this one issue. Thanks for any help. Cliff -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.5 Crashed (Resolved)
** Reply to message from Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com on Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:32:54 -0400 Glad the easy fix worked. *Dear Cliff Scott and Tom Davis, Thank you very much for your replies. As I could not get LibreOffice 3.5 back at all, I was unable to go to my User Profile via LibreOffice -- Tools-- Options -- LibreOffice -- Paths. But I was able to go via C:\Users\user name\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user. I changed user to user.OLD. I launched LibreOffice 3.5 again, and I got it back. Thank you very much for your help. Sincerely, Taang Zomi* -- Forwarded message -- From: Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.5 Crashed To: users@global.libreoffice.org ** Reply to message from Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com on Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:43:47 -0400 You may need to reinstall, but first you could try renaming your profile. I'm sorry, but I don't know where in Win7 it is kept, but it's around somewhere. LO will generate a new one on startup. If that works then you can begin moving sections of the old profile into the new one until you find which one was corrupt/damaged. Cliff *Should I uninstall and reinstall LibreOfiice 3.5?* -- Forwarded message -- From: Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:37 PM Subject: LibreOffice 3.5 Crashed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com * Today, when I launched LibreOffice 3.5, I found out that it was crashed. I clicked 'Start Recovery'. I got a message that says Successfully recovered'. I clicked 'Finish'. I got a message that says Due to an unexpected error, LibreOffice crashed. All tye files you were workimg on now will be saved. The next time LibreOffice is launched, your files will be covered automatically. I clicked 'OK'. The LibreOffice 3.5 completely disappeared. I cannot use LibreOffice 3.5. I launched it again, but the same thing happened. Computer: MSi A6000; CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20 GHz; OS: Windows 7, RAM:: 4.0 GB, HD: 320 GH What do I need to do to get back my LibreOffice 3.5? == 15 APR 2012 SUN 7:59 PM = #1 = LibreOffice 3.5 Press 'Start Recovery' to start the recovery process of the documents listed below. The 'Status' column shows whether the document could be recovered. Recovering Document | | Status of rececovered dcuments: |Document Name|Status | |[] Syllable Rules.odt Not reccovered yet | | | | | --- | | | Start Recovery | |Cancel| |---| = #2: = LibreOffice 3.5 --- Recovery of your documents was finished. Click 'Finish' to see your documents. Recovering document: --- | Status of recovered documents: --- | document Name |Status | -- |Syllable Rules.odt Successfully recovered| | | | | -- || | Finish | |Cancel| | | = #3: = LibreOFfice 3.5 --- Due to an unexpected error, LibreOffice crashed. All the files you were workimg on now will be saved. The next time LibreOffice is launched, your files will be covered automatically. The following files will be recovered: --- |Syllable Rules.odt | | | | | | | -- |--| | OK
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.5 Crashed
** Reply to message from Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com on Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:43:47 -0400 You may need to reinstall, but first you could try renaming your profile. I'm sorry, but I don't know where in Win7 it is kept, but it's around somewhere. LO will generate a new one on startup. If that works then you can begin moving sections of the old profile into the new one until you find which one was corrupt/damaged. Cliff *Should I uninstall and reinstall LibreOfiice 3.5?* -- Forwarded message -- From: Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:37 PM Subject: LibreOffice 3.5 Crashed To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Taang Zomi libreofficez...@gmail.com * Today, when I launched LibreOffice 3.5, I found out that it was crashed. I clicked 'Start Recovery'. I got a message that says Successfully recovered'. I clicked 'Finish'. I got a message that says Due to an unexpected error, LibreOffice crashed. All tye files you were workimg on now will be saved. The next time LibreOffice is launched, your files will be covered automatically. I clicked 'OK'. The LibreOffice 3.5 completely disappeared. I cannot use LibreOffice 3.5. I launched it again, but the same thing happened. Computer: MSi A6000; CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20 GHz; OS: Windows 7, RAM:: 4.0 GB, HD: 320 GH What do I need to do to get back my LibreOffice 3.5? == 15 APR 2012 SUN 7:59 PM = #1 = LibreOffice 3.5 Press 'Start Recovery' to start the recovery process of the documents listed below. The 'Status' column shows whether the document could be recovered. Recovering Document | | Status of rececovered dcuments: |Document Name|Status | |[] Syllable Rules.odt Not reccovered yet | | | | | --- | | | Start Recovery | |Cancel| |---| = #2: = LibreOffice 3.5 --- Recovery of your documents was finished. Click 'Finish' to see your documents. Recovering document: --- | Status of recovered documents: --- | document Name |Status | -- |Syllable Rules.odt Successfully recovered| | | | | -- || | Finish | |Cancel| | | = #3: = LibreOFfice 3.5 --- Due to an unexpected error, LibreOffice crashed. All the files you were workimg on now will be saved. The next time LibreOffice is launched, your files will be covered automatically. The following files will be recovered: --- |Syllable Rules.odt | | | | | | | -- |--| | OK | |--| * -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] two dots above the i in presentation.
** Reply to message from James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com on Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:18:20 -0400 Brian Barker wrote: At 00:56 13/03/2012 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: The absolutely correct spelling of the word naïve has the two dots, known in English as a dieresis, or in German as an Umlaut, indicating a change in sound, rather than a diphthong. For what it's worth, the German for diaeresis appears to be Trema. The umlaut looks the same, but it's a different mark: it is an accent, whereas the diaeresis is (as you describe) also a diacritic but not an accent. Brian Barker For those who are interested, it's possible to generate the various special characters by using the U.S. International keyboard. With it, you can use the right Alt key to create those characters, such as ü, á, , £, € etc. The left Alt key works as usual. Pardon my ignorance, but could you describe how that works or where one would find out that information? Thanks. Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] two dots above the i in presentation.
** Reply to message from Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk on Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:39:33 - Pardon my ignorance, but could you describe how that works or where one would find out that information? Thanks. You hold down the ALt key and, using the numeric keypad only (I think, but might be wrong), you key in the ASCII code for the letter you want. I seem to recall something like that from long ago. Thanks! Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: two dots above the i in presentation.
** Reply to message from Werner F. Bruhin werner.bru...@free.fr on Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:26:02 +0100 On 13/03/2012 13:47, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from James Knottjames.kn...@rogers.com on Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:18:20 -0400 Brian Barker wrote: At 00:56 13/03/2012 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: The absolutely correct spelling of the word naïve has the two dots, known in English as a dieresis, or in German as an Umlaut, indicating a change in sound, rather than a diphthong. For what it's worth, the German for diaeresis appears to be Trema. The umlaut looks the same, but it's a different mark: it is an accent, whereas the diaeresis is (as you describe) also a diacritic but not an accent. Brian Barker For those who are interested, it's possible to generate the various special characters by using the U.S. International keyboard. With it, you can use the right Alt key to create those characters, such as ü, á, , £, € etc. The left Alt key works as usual. Pardon my ignorance, but could you describe how that works or where one would find out that information? Thanks. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964658.aspx or a google search with e.g. alt numpad for symbols I should have thought of that. Thanks! Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] two dots above the i in presentation.
** Reply to message from James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com on Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:13:02 -0400 Cliff Scott wrote: For those who are interested, it's possible to generate the various special characters by using the U.S. International keyboard. With it, you can use the right Alt key to create those characters, such as ü, á, , £, € etc. The left Alt key works as usual. Pardon my ignorance, but could you describe how that works or where one would find out that information? Thanks. C Forgot to mention, you can find info on using that layout here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_keyboard_layout#US-International The Linux and Windows keyboards are very close, though not an exact match, to the layout shown. Thanks! Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] two dots above the i in presentation.
** Reply to message from James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com on Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:10:15 -0400 Cliff Scott wrote: For those who are interested, it's possible to generate the various special characters by using the U.S. International keyboard. With it, you can use the right Alt key to create those characters, such as ü, á, , £, € etc. The left Alt key works as usual. Pardon my ignorance, but could you describe how that works or where one would find out that information? Thanks. The exact details depend on the operating system. In Linux, there's generally a Personal Settings utility, where you can select the keyboard type. In Windows 7, just click on the Start button and type language in the box. One of the items that will be listed is Change keboards or other input method. In there, select the Keyboards and languages tab and click on Change keyboards. Under English (United States), you will find many different keyboard layouts. You can select multiple keyboards if you wish and select the desired one by clicking on the Keyboard icon on the bar. You can also select keyboards under other languages, such as German, but then you have to select between languages by using the left Alt + Shift keys. If you just want those special characters occasionally, under English (United States), add United States - International. You can, if you wish, delete the original US keyboard. Since this is done at the operating system level, it works for all applications. I have no idea about Macs. Thanks for the reply. I can change the keyboard type easily as you indicated. My real question, which I didn't clearly spell out, is: once you have the USA International Keyboard where does one find the info as to which key combo makes which special letter? Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check problems
** Reply to message from Edwin Matheson mathe...@bellsouth.net on Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:16:25 -0500 I want to thank everyone for trying to help me with my spell check problem. However, I still have the problem. Spell check tells me that every word in my doc. is spelled wrong. I still have OpenOffice on my computer and I was able to get into the system (it usually crashes) I pulled down every window in both OpenOfffice and Libreoffice and compared all the settings. English (USA) is set everywhere possible in both systems. Yet, spell check works perfectly in OpenOffice and won't work at all in Libreoffice. So I have no choice but to uninstall Libreoffice and look for another system. Thanks again for all your help. Ed, I haven't been following all the answers give to help you, but wanted to throw out a couple of my own. You may have already tried these, but if not they may help. The problem you describe is not a normal problem. LO normally does spell check fine so there has to be something in the install or setup that went wrong so before you jump ship please try the following: 1. Close LO and rename you profile to something else than it is now, reboot the computer then restart LO Writer. This should put you back to defaults. 2. If #1 didn't help then close LO, rename the profile again and uninstall LO. Reboot your computer and then reinstall LO, checking the language/dictionary settings (2 places) during the advanced install. Hopefully this will give you a normally functioning LO. Hope this helps. Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list
** Reply to message from Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com on Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:30:56 - Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote in message news:1327076124.1667.6.camel@dan-ubuntu... On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 09:23 -0500, drew wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 14:32 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: drew wrote (20-01-12 14:25) Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed... Ah, do we offer so much service :-) Then indeed we should do the same for un-subscribing. (Or make subscribing 'difficult') *chuckling*... well I suspect that the sad truth is that even if it is one click on a URL in the footer of each and every email, to start the unsubscribe process, there will still be someone that just can't quite manage. - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org After just reading the instructions on how to unsubscribe from this list, it seems that it is made far too complex. Having To unsubscribe click: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org in the footer of emails. (Surprise to some, but some html emails will not have this header and I don't know why.) Still we would still have to remind some to reply to the confirmation email they were sent by the mailing list. Unsubscribing by clicking a link in an e-mail assumes the person receives HTML mail. Some force text only in which case the link won't work. Others *send* text only so perhaps the Unsubscribe instruction doesn't get included (???) but, even if it does, it won't be clickable. There have even been people who make great contributions to this list who complain about HTML e-mail. What you say may be true for some email clients, but definitely not for all. I'm one of those who have no use for HTML so HTML codes are stripped out as it comes in, but the content, including links, is preserved. I just have to double click the link to make it work. Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:58:52 +0100 (BST) It depends on what the user wants in the cell. If he wants the actual percentage then use proper mathematical notation and write it as (556.85/646.15)*100. That way there is no ambiguity for people or the processor. If, however, since the percentage is used in calculations then leave it as 556.85/646.15 and just change the cell format to percentage. That will display the actual percentage as 86.xx, but leave the value for calculations as .86xx. Cliff Hi :) It's not really wrong but there needs to be some indication that it is a percentage figure. The original numbers don't really warrant more than 2 decimal places. Another way of removing problems with ambiguity would be to write the equation as = 556.85 * 100 / 646.15 Then it doesn't matter if (100/646.15) is calculated first or the (556.85 * 100), either way the answer is about the same, hopefully exactly the same. Regards from Tom :) --- On Mon, 26/9/11, Andreas Säger saege...@t-online.de wrote: From: Andreas Säger saege...@t-online.de Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 11:25 Am 26.09.2011 05:58, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100. steve But 86.17968 is wrong. 86.17968 does not reflect the relation between the 2 numbers which is 0.8617968. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] strikethrough feature
** Reply to message from Maria Rechnitzer rrrah...@gmail.com on Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:47:20 -0700 Dear Support, when word processing in microsoft office (doc or xls) there is a strikethrough feature that allows you to mark words that you want to delete but stIll keep them in the text, e.g. strikethrough. I was not able to find this feature in Libre Office (also not in former Open Office). Is there such a feature? If not I suggest to add it next to the bold, italic and underline feature. THANKS FOR PROVIDING THIS SEVICE! I kindly ask you to let me know if the strikethrough feature exists in Libre Office. Best regards, Maria Maria, Yes it does. Go to the Edit menu and click on Changes, then click on Record and if Show is not checked click on that to make the marks visible. You can change how the changes are marked by going to the menu Tools\Options\Libreoffice Writer\Changes -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I delete unwanted Extensions?
** Reply to message from Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com on Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:50:27 +0200 Le 22/08/11 03:54, Cliff Scott a écrit : Hi Cliff, In the future when doing an install, do the custom install and hunt down and deselect the dictionaries/languages you don't want. I don't know about the other extensions, but there is likely the option for those also. Dictionaries/languages are listed in two lists and you need to delete them from both lists. Unfortunately, you do not a choice on the Mac as to which dictionaries to install or not - the app is a huge single package with no installer routine, just the usual clikc on disk image then drag the app to wherever you want it to install on your hard disk. Alex Ok. Error on my part since I don't have a MAC. Please confirm that I understand you correctly - you are saying that there are no install options during the install process, i.e. you have to take the whole package as is. I find it amazing that one's hands would be tied like that. Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How do I delete unwanted Extensions?
** Reply to message from Tinkerer j_taylo...@btinternet.com on Sun, 21 Aug 2011 06:36:14 -0700 (PDT) I am the root user on a Mac 10.6.8, Libre 3.4.2 I can alter all the Preferences, I can add Extensions but I cannot unlock these Extensions. The list is far too long and I want to shorten it. You likely need to first close LibreOffice, but basically the trick is to manually delete the extensions where ever they are on the MAC. In the future when doing an install, do the custom install and hunt down and deselect the dictionaries/languages you don't want. I don't know about the other extensions, but there is likely the option for those also. Dictionaries/languages are listed in two lists and you need to delete them from both lists. Cliff -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST) Hi :) I don't feel contempt or superior or anything. If a person has a problem i just try to help if i can. A quick copypaste is no hassle. At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger. Changed the font to red. Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs. Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by. So we switched to a tiny sign with Top Secret printed at the top. Suddenly everyone started taking notice. Regards from Tom :) Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so many of the end up on this list. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe
** Reply to message from planas jsloz...@gmail.com on Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:12:42 -0400 Cliff On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 13:43 -0500, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST) Hi :) I don't feel contempt or superior or anything. If a person has a problem i just try to help if i can. A quick copypaste is no hassle. At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger. Changed the font to red. Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs. Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by. So we switched to a tiny sign with Top Secret printed at the top. Suddenly everyone started taking notice. Regards from Tom :) Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so many of the end up on this list. The foorer is parsed correctly at my end, using gmail/evolution/ubuntu 11.04. Is it an improperly configured client? In using a java based email client on WinXP it ends up with users@global.libreoffice.org as the email address and +help as the subject. The same client under eCS works fine so it could be the interface with XP and the client or an issue within XP itself. Apparently Tom also has seen incorrect parsing. Maybe if the plus sign was changed to a minus it would work better, I don't know. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe
** Reply to message from Leon Cych leonc...@gmail.com on Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:53:59 +0100 Unsubscribe -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? Leon, Check that your email client is using the correct address, i.e. users+unsubscr...@globel.libreoffice.org. Some clients don't handle the + correctly and drop the word after the + and put it as subject if you click on the link or copy and paste the address. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer
At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT users+h...@global.libreoffice.org. Is there a way to get whomever is in charge of the mail list program put the correct information in the footer? It would save a lot of hassle for people. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer
** Reply to message from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr on Sat, 30 Jul 2011 08:54:08 +0200 Le 30/07/2011 04:07, Cliff Scott a écrit : At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT users+h...@global.libreoffice.org. Please read more carefully the text of the footer. It does not tell you the address where to send a message to unsubscribe but the address where to write to get the instructions how to unsubscribe. I guess this indirect procedure is useful because you need to be informed that you will have to answer to the confirmation request. Thank you. That was also pointed out to me by someone else. I took it to mean the actual address which it is not. Possibly it could be clarified by putting it similarly to this: For unsubscribe instructions email to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org or something to that effect. From all the hassle I've seen others go through in the past I'm not the only one to misinterpret the present wording. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] help
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Re: [libreoffice-users] help
** Reply to message from Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com on Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:47:41 +0200 Hi Cliff, On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:35:37 -0500 Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net wrote: help with what? Can you be a bit more verbose please? Sigrid Sigrid, Thanks for asking. That email was not supposed to go to this list. I was just seeing what the Unsubscribe email address in the message footers would do and found that the format of the email address is not read correctly by my email client so it takes the +help off the address and puts it into the subject. I didn't catch that until it went. Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice message footer
At the risk of starting another round of arguments regarding subscribing unsubscribing I would like to point out that the information for unsubscribing in the footer of messages on this list is incorrect. I just changed my email address so I had to unsubscribe the old one and subscribe the new one. It all went without a hitch because I checked first at the get-help page on the Libreoffice.org website and found out that the correct unsubscribe address is users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org, NOT users+h...@global.libreoffice.org. Is there a way to get whomever is in charge of the mail list program put the correct information in the footer? It would save a lot of hassle for people. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] New User: Three Questions
** Reply to message from David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:56:27 -0400 On 7/19/2011 9:09 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: 1.) When LO is invoked it displays a box of icons in the middle of the application window. Where do I change the start up option so I see either a blank window or a new writer document instead of this icon box? Are you using Windows? If so, I am certain there is a way, but I sidestep the issue by keeping an empty writer document on my desk top. I start that and click the new document at the upper left. I do have to choose where to save if different from the default. I thought this easier than fighting the run box as suggested elsewhere. You can prefer to create a shortcut, giving the item the short cut wizard requests as a path to swriter.exe. On my 64 bit W7 machine it is C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 3\program\swriter.exe YMMV. The answers given by others to your remaining questions are better than what I can come up with. I know he isn't using Windows, but FYI, under Windows there is a folder in your program list with icons for each of the functions, i.e. Writer, Calc, etc. Just make a copy of the shortcut and put it on your desktop or quick start bar. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word?
** Reply to message from webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com on Fri, 27 May 2011 15:53:44 -0400 On 05/27/2011 12:19 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 11:14 27/05/2011 -0400, Nobody Noname wrote: I just read a article about adding tabs to Word that allows you to have multiple Word documents own in tabs, like you have for Firefox or IE. The lady was saying that she had 4 or 5 Word documents open at the same time and the tab option. She said she would be lost without web browsers having tabs, so it just makes sense to have such an option in Word. So I was wondering if anyone knows any add-on to LibreOffice that would allow multiple Writer docs open at the same time in without having multiple instances of LO open at the same time. That would make life easier sometimes. Since OOo's extension site is not working half the time, I thought someone here might know of such an extension. I think you are missing the point here! If you open, say, Internet Explorer, when it's already running, you get another instance. Tabs change that - don't they? - so that you can have multiple pages within one instance. But it's been a very long time since Word has behaved like that: if you start Word when it is already running, it merely opens another document in the same instance of the program. This is despite your seeing separate windows. In fact, OpenOffice and LibreOffice are already ahead of that, since they are integrated suites, so you can even open multiple documents of different types in one instance of the program. You can have a text document and a spreadsheet both open in the same instance of the suite (which is why it's sometimes unhelpful to think of Writer and Calc as being separate programs). Try opening a spreadsheet from within Word or a text document from within Excel: no joy! The way you move between multiple documents in applications is generally using the Window menu - and this works in OpenOffice and LibreOffice as in anything else. And with these suites, you even get all open documents, even if of different types. (With the ribbon, this appears under View | Window in recent versions of Word.) What you could be asking for, then, is not the ability to have multiple documents open in a single instance - which is already here - but simply a move from a Window menu to tabs as a way of handling them. Unless I misunderstand things ... I do not deal with more than 1 to 3 different office type of documents at a time. But for the person who writes books, papers, and other things like that, could have the main document in one tab, the bibliography in a 2nd, a footnote section in a 3rd, notes and other research in still others. Then tabbing between documents might be easier than between programs shown on the task bar. I know of one author that went from StarOffice to OOo and from Windows to Linux since he used a different style of keyboard, instead of QWERTY, and Linux was easier to setup that keyboard that was easier for him to use. He also wrote his own macros to do functions he needed, or wanted, that would help him write his 3 to 5 paperback novels a year. His wife still use Windows since they could not get the Linux machine to work with the dial-up modem. I do not know if he will be moving over to LibreOffice, not that Oracle owns the rights to the name. I think the tabbed document idea would work great for the type of work he described doing in his author's note at the end of most of his books, or his monthly blog. For me having tabbed web pages in Firefox works for my need to page back and forth between web documents to keep up with weather reports[2 pages], hourly/daily reports on what my computer is doing with BOINC, several LibreOffice related pages including several wiki pages, and whatever other web pages I need to keep an eye one and do not want to have to open up every time I want to see some info. If I wanted to deal with writing, like I use to work on for thesis papers, I thing having a tabbed work environment would help keeping all the various documents together and arranged more neatly than the ways I had to deal with in the past. Also it would give me only one listing in the task bar realistate when I have to have many different programs open at the same time. I currently have a simple schedule, computer monitor, BOINC manager, LibreOffice, Thunderbird-main, this email in Thunderbird, and FireFox [with its own 7 tabs]. If I had to have 3 or more LibreOffice documents open, the task bar package names would get too small to mean anything to identify which LO task belongs to which document. I once has over 15 tasks open at the same time, and it was a pain. Tabbed document management withing LibreOffice would reduce that mess sometimes. Organizationally I can see it as
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: tabs in LibreOffice - like you can do for MS-Word?
** Reply to message from plino pedl...@gmail.com on Fri, 27 May 2011 15:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Are you aware that, at least in Win. that you can move between documents using Alt+tab? I find that much faster than trying to use a mouse. If you have a bunch of tasks running it's not so handy, but normally you are only switching between a few windows and it is very quick. Are you aware that if you press Ctrl+Tab you can do the same between documents (or tabs) within the same program? :) That works also, but ALT+Tab for me, is an easier finger movement and Win treats each document in LO or OO as a separate window so if I have to bounce between two LO windows either one accomplishes the task. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Calc Conditional Formatting Help button
** Reply to message from Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org on Tue, 24 May 2011 08:25:24 -0700 Oddly, I am unable to get the local help to be used. I thought it might be because the VM had no Java JRE installed, but I did that and repaired both LO3.4.0rc1 and the LO3.4.04c1 Help Pack, but I still only get the online web pages. Hmm ... I had that happen when I first installed LO and told the Help File install to put the help files somewhere else than the default. Same result. Finally I reinstalled and let it put the files where it wanted and it worked fine after that. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation
** Reply to message from Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com on Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:31:57 -0400 On 2011-04-28 1:40 AM, Cliff Scott wrote: Charles Marcus wrote on Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:17:17 -0400 Two? I have only ever had to deselect all of the other dictionaries, the language itself is usually only defaulted to install English. Or is there another one I've been missing that accounts for why the properties in 'Add/Remove Programs' still shows the hug string of every single language even though I only want/need English? It still normally installs a whole list of language packs, but doesn't use them unless you later request to change languages. Not when I've installed it (dozens of times now) - it only has two languages seletced by default - EN-US and EN-UK (I think, that's from memory)... but I know it is only the dictionaries I have to deselect-all then select only the english... This is on Windows, both XP and 7... Interesting. I've only installed it four times. Twice under XP and twice under Win2K. The first install in each OS, 3.3.0, installed all the extra stuff because I didn't know any better. When upgrading to 3.3.1 I deselected all the extra stuff and it did as it should. It's been quite a while now so maybe my memory is failing me, but as I recall it there were extra languages installed both times I installed 3.3.0 and not when installing 3.3.1. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation
** Reply to message from Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com on Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:46:18 +0100 On 26/04/2011 03:07, Cliff Scott wrote: You can solve your own problem by deselecting them during installation. They only install because they are selected by default, which IMHO should not be done. It takes a minute or so, but there are two lists that you have to go through and deselect all the dictionaries and language stuff you don't want to install. Well I looked at the Custom install options and couldn't see any dictionaries to de-select there - did I miss something? Open up the item Optional Components. In there you will fine a whole list of stuff inclucing Dictionaries and Language Packs. LMB on the + to open up the list and set them as you wish. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation
** Reply to message from Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com on Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:17:17 -0400 On 2011-04-25 10:07 PM, Cliff Scott wrote: You can solve your own problem by deselecting them during installation. But you also have to choose 'Custom Install' first to be able to deselect them. They only install because they are selected by default, which IMHO should not be done. +1000 The only language related stuff that should be selected by default is the detected language version of the OS itself. It takes a minute or so, but there are two lists that you have to go through and deselect all the dictionaries and language stuff you don't want to install. Two? I have only ever had to deselect all of the other dictionaries, the language itself is usually only defaulted to install English. Or is there another one I've been missing that accounts for why the properties in 'Add/Remove Programs' still shows the hug string of every single language even though I only want/need English? It still normally installs a whole list of language packs, but doesn't use them unless you later request to change languages. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation
** Reply to message from Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com on Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:35:40 +0100 1. I cannot understand why there is STILL no upgrade function in LO. I had 3.3.1 and in order to upgrade to 3.3.2 I had to download the whole 220 MB. Now I know that's not a lot, but for those on capped and/or slow connections it IS a lot. 2. In the old installation of 3.3.1 I had removed all the non-English dictionaries (after a long search on how to do this - WHY is there not an easy dictionary removel method?) and after downloading the GB version of the new install file, IT RE-INSTALLED ALL THE NON-ENGLISH DICTIONARIES! What on earth is the point of a GB install file when it just replaces all the non-English dictionaries that I had to painstakingly remove previously? GRR. Come on LO. Get your act together You can solve your own problem by deselecting them during installation. They only install because they are selected by default, which IMHO should not be done. It takes a minute or so, but there are two lists that you have to go through and deselect all the dictionaries and language stuff you don't want to install. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Description is not retained
** Reply to message from James Wilde james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com on Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:01:28 +0100 LibO 3.3.1 on Mac OSX 10.6.6. I have a number of copies of one particular document, each copy of which differs in some respects from others. There is, for example, the original file with certain formatting attributes. Then there is a copy of this which has more formatting attributes to make it suitable for conversion to a mobi ebook. There is a third copy which differs again, and is intended for conversion to epub format, and so on. Apart from having them in different folders, and with slightly different file names, I need to know exactly what changes I have made in each file, and I thought that the Description tab of the Properties window would be ideal for this purpose. I assumed this would be some kind of metadata. However, I have now discovered that information entered in this window is not preserved when closing the file and re-opening it. Have I missed something, or is this a bug in the Mac version? Actually this is a bug in all versions it seems. If you save the file before closing it will be saved. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Calc copy/paste problem
** Reply to message from Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:38:41 +0100 Hi Cliff, Am 05.03.2011 23:03, schrieb Cliff Scott: Now I have to figure out how to write a macro to select the correct Paste Special option and paste in one key stroke operation. Pulling down the options from the Paste toolbar object makes it a two click process which isn't bad, but the keystroke macro would be ideal. Do you really think a macro is worthwhile for that? Without a macro, it´s only three keystrokes maximum anyway: (1) CTRL+SHIFT+V (2) type the first character of the desired option, if necessary (3) ENTER done. ;-) True! It would be an interesting challenge as I have not written one in LO yet and yes, I suppose I'm a little bit of a perfectionist, trying to make it the most efficient as possible. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Calc copy/paste problem
Hi Y'all, I've run into a major issue with Calc from LO and OOo and was wondering if anyone else had seen it and if there was a way around it. I have an Excel Spreadsheet that has a number of pages with about 10 columns. Most pages have 2 hidden columns and the 2nd hidden column's value is from a table lookup on another sheet in the same spreadsheet. I use this to calculate billing on the usage of a number of aircraft. The table lookup is based on date and aircraft number. I want to copy the rows for the current billing period to Writer to submit a billing report to finance. I've always just used Excel and Word to do it with no problems. In trying to switch to LO when I paste to Writer I get a blank frame box. Double clicking on the box brings up a mini spreadsheet and working with that I can eventually get the copied rows to display, however the total column comes up with a Err 501. Expanding the hidden columns is no help. The table look up column also shows Err 501 after pasting. An indication of the source of the problem may be that Writer shows the paragraph type as OLE. If I do the copy from Excel and paste to Writer all is well. Also if I copy from a page with no table look up it is ok so the problem seems to be that I tries to link to the table rather than just copying the displayed values. Help! I would really like to move to LO with this. Any suggestions gratefully received. -- Cliff I posted the above several days ago and have had no replies so looking over what I wrote thought that maybe I need to clarify things. I have imported an Excel spreadsheet into Calc. No problems, it comes in just fine. What I want to do is mark a block of several rows and columns, copy the displayed values as a table and paste into a Writer document. The unusual situation here is that there are 2 hidden columns and the values in those columns are calculated to give me the col. row numbers to do a table lookup which with other data in cells in that row is used in the calculation of the value that appears in the total cell for that row. My problem is that when I do a copy from Calc and then paste into Writer that what shows up in Writer is an empty Frame box. If I double click in the box then a mini spread sheet appears and I can scroll and expand it to get the block of data that I wanted with one exception - the total cells now say Err 501 and not the values that were displayed in Calc. The paragraph type is also set to OLE which I think is the problem. The real question is: How do I get it to just copy the values and not be fancy and try to link to what ever it is trying to link to. In Excel this works fine, although it copies even the hidden columns and their values, but I can deal with this if necessary. LO doesn't copy the hidden columns which is great, but for some reason won't copy just the value in the calculated cell. If I unhide the two columns then one is copied ok, but the other also has an Err 501. Has anyone encountered a problem similar to this? Is there a setting to tell it to copy just the cell values without trying to link anywhere? Ideas? Thanks for any and all suggestions. BTW, OOo also does the same thing. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check can't spell?
** Reply to message from Leslie D. Martin alaskahome1959.mailingli...@gmail.com on Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:03:57 -0800 Using US english dictionary spell checker misses misspelled words. I can have a document with multiple confirmed spelling errors and LO doesn't seem to find a single one of them when I run spell check after the fact (for example, an imported or cut and paste document). It does seem to work fine in spell as you type mode, however. --- Leslie D. Martin I suspect the problem is that you need to specify a language. You can check if you have a default language set by looking at the status line at the bottom of the window. The third field from the left should have English (USA) or what ever language you have set. If nothing is there then go to menu item Tools/Options/Lanuage-settings/Languages and set the default language for your documents. You can also set language specifically for the current document in Menu item Tools/Language and set it for what ever part of the document you want. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Footer not printed completely or not at all
** Reply to message from Riemer rie...@thalen.nl on Sun, 27 Feb 2011 04:58:41 -0800 (PST) Sometimes footers are not printed. On other pages of the same document, they sometimes show up correctly. Also, a three line footer is printed only partially. The footers are displayed on the screen and the PDFs are OK as well. The printed PDFs show all footers completely. but printed .odt or .doc files do not. Does anyone know what may cause this problem? It is inherited from OOo. It has nothing to do with cleaned-up code or anything the LibO developers did. Set-up: Ubuntu 10.9, LibO 3.3, printer HP deskjet 840C Thanks for any suggestion. What is the bottom margin on the page? Most of the older HP Inkjets need about 0.6 free space at the bottom. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] upgrade from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1
** Reply to message from Thorne thorne.olin...@gmail.com on Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:24:58 -0500 How do I upgrade my libreoffice install? I have win xp home with sp3.. there is no update setting on my install... Install over the top of the last one. If you do that then you keep all the setups and extensions. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] comments are disappearing
** Reply to message from John McAtee jlm_connect...@yahoo.com on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) Comments at end. List I created a file in LO called TEST with a comment and saved as xlsx. I used 7zip to unzip the TEST.xlsx file and found that it created a folder called test with three folders inside one of which is called xl. In the xl folder there is an xml document called comments1. When I opened the file in my browser it had the xml code that listed the cell reference and comment associated with that cell. That seems to answer the question. I certainly hope this helps because I too use Calc spreadsheets as a grade book for students and understand the panic this problem could create. John McAtee From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl To: users@libreoffice.org Cc: Andy convenientpark...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] comments are disappearing Hi Andy, Andy wrote (23-02-11 21:59) I've been using LibreOffice for a couple months now to grade student's papers, to which I append ample comments. I've just discovered that when I save the document in Microsoft 2007 format and then open it up again, all the comments I've written disappear. I know now to not use this format any more, but I've now lost comments for about 25 papers. Is there any way to retrieve them? When you worked on the document for some time, sure there will be a backup in the original .odt format? (Saving as .doc does not replace the .odt). That would be the best solution, IMO. Best regards, Cor I've just tried it with LO 3.3.1 and the comments are saved in both cases, i.e. saving as .ods or as .xlsx. I did find that I had to save the spreadsheet after adding/editing comments or they would not be saved. Of course that is to be expected, but I verified it so am mentioning it here. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't subscribe to the list
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:00:11 + (GMT) From: Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 0:34:04 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't subscribe to the list On 2/22/2011 11:44 AM, Paolo wrote: On 22/02/11 15:34, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: I would like to subscribe to the list, but can't manage after several attempts writing to users+subscr...@libreoffice.org as specified here: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ The problem I had is that when I click on the link the resulting destination address in Thunderbird is: users%2bsubscr...@libreoffice.org and that doesn't work. When I manually changed the address back to users+subscribe... then my subscription went through. I think the address, and other addresses, are wrongly encoded on the page http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ Since it works just fine for myself and everyone else that has commented... maybe the problem is more 'local'... ? ;) Hi :) Everyone that has commented does not include people that found it tooo difficult to join the list. One person persevered and even asked the list for help rather than just giving up. Perhaps there is a problem but you will never know it if you don't listen and explore. I also had trouble but found a work-around. Regards from Tom :) I don't know Tom's problem, but I had the same problem as started this thread. Clicking on the email address to send the request somehow didn't pickup the users+ so it didn't go through. After not getting the expected automated response I looked at the email and noticed the missing part. Correcting the address and resending resulted in the subscription going through normally. Something, maybe with the clip board or with certain mailers and how they handle the clip board or something causes it to not always work as intended. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:28:03 + (GMT) Tom, I didn't mean I would try them all, just consider what would be the best for me. Thanks. Cliff Hi :) Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all. That's why i gave summary info and background so that you can choose to try 1 sometime. SliTaz would be the fastest to try but Ubuntu is more useful for general use. Trinity is only useful as a rescue, recovery or fix-it Cd and is rarely needed. Regards from Tom :) From: Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 13:27:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:56:28 + (GMT) Hi Tom, Thanks for all the useful suggestions. I'll look into them. Cliff Hi :) Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally. It might have been triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or is done by antivirus software. People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows is until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines. Often they think Windows is the most robust and easiest!! One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux distro such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used. Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system alongside Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a LiveCd session with tools that can help fix typical Windows problems. LiveCd simply means a bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic term because habits are tough to break. My favourite 3 are 1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete with office apps and internet already. This is the one i have as a LiveUsb-stick and i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work. The problem with Live sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the machine unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive. Anything saved to the desktop or Documents and bookmarks and history is all forgotten. LiveCds are great for online banking. Download links and other useful stuff can be found from DistroWatch http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu 2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd. It doesn't have so much functionality out of the box but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd even if the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems. It does have GPartEd, a text-editor, a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something like Gnome Baker, Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 if Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet). The LiveCd session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the desktop http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz 3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really exclusively for fixing Windows problems http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a nice menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, data-recovery, password reset, partition editor and stacks more. It does have tools that are good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is where it's real value is. There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but also disadvantages). Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or Mandriva instead of Ubuntu but of these entry level distros Ubuntu is the most famous and appears in the mainstream press. Mint does have more multimedia already set-up. Mandriva looks pretty. Fedora explores new features and programs before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting. There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but SliTaz seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on older systems. Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a LOT larger. Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can be a good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive retro space-invaders game. Again it is a lot larger
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:12:07 +0100 On 16-02-11 14:43, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:32:15 +0100 On 16-02-11 04:23, Cliff Scott wrote: I just ran into a scary situation. I already had LO 3.3 installed on a Win2K system and working great. That system also had OOo 3.2.1 installed and working. I upgraded the OOo to 3.3 to compare OOo LO and after that neither one would start. It was complaining about the file MSVCR90.DLL missing. I searched the entire system drive and it .. A better place to install this file from is: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326922 Becausel all other missing dependecy's of that file will also be re-installed. Luuk, Thanks for the link. I must be blind. I find a discussion of it, but no link from which to download the file(s). Can you point me to it? -- Cliff oops, sorry, wrong link But when i try to find the correct one, i end up at: http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate Which is the link to download windows updates... O:-) :-[ :-\ But after some searching google reveald the correct link: :-) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2displaylang=en it was found when searching for: Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) Thanks Luuk. Got it. I suppose I should install it even if everything seems ok just in case some other files got deleted at the same time. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Properties of Document
** Reply to message from lnvas _at_data.bg ln...@data.bg on Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:58:00 +0200 On 11 Dec 2010 Joachim Wiedorn wrote: lnvas _at_data.bg ln...@data.bg wrote on 2010-12-11 16:24: Entering/changing Properties of document -- Description didn't set document modified status. That was the same behaviour in older versions (3.0, 3,1, 3.2). But really it would be logical to set such a document to modified. ... Joachim (Germany) WinXP LibreOffice 3.3.1 OOO330m19(Build:7) tag libreoffice-3.3.1.1 Calc, Draw, Formula, Impress : Entering/changing Properties of document Description do set document modified status. Writer: Entering/changing Properties of document Description does NOT set document modified status. Work-around: SaveAs Regards, Lyudmil. I can confirm that also. OOo 3.2.1 does not have that problem. I haven't tried it on OOo 3.3.0. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Extensions Locked in LO 3.3
** Reply to message from Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com on Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:23:03 + On 10/02/2011 03:09, Cliff Scott wrote: [cut] I did a modify install and all dictionaries except EN were already marked not to install. There were no options to remove them in the Extension list. These unwanted extensions are all kinds of dictionaries like Russian, Vietnamese, Swiss and many more. Why are they there when the install program was instructed not to install them? Does anyone else see this? Cliff Yes! It's bl***y annoying, isn't it? I tried a root login (and admin in Win 7) to no avail so it's not just a permissions thing. I suppose a bit of manual hacking would fix it, but I don't really want to waste my time on that. Peter, Thanks for the response. At least I'm not the only one. I suppose I could go into the Extension directory and delete the files, but if there's some index somewhere that now doesn't match up with the contents it may cause other issues. Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Extensions Locked in LO 3.3
I just looked at the extension manager this evening for the first time since I wanted to install some extensions. I found a long list of extensions for various languages that I didn't install. The problem is that I want to remove those extensions, but they are all locked. There is a lock image in the right hand corner and there is no remove button. How do I get rid of this extra stuff that I don't need? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Extensions Locked in LO 3.3
** Reply to message from besr besr2010-...@yahoo.es on Wed, 09 Feb 2011 23:41:48 -0300 El 09/02/2011 11:37 p.m., Cliff Scott escribió: I just looked at the extension manager this evening for the first time since I wanted to install some extensions. I found a long list of extensions for various languages that I didn't install. The problem is that I want to remove those extensions, but they are all locked. There is a lock image in the right hand corner and there is no remove button. How do I get rid of this extra stuff that I don't need? They change the type of extensions adding like 3 type more, user,¿?, and for you question the extensions which are installed with the installer of LO Those extensions(with the installed) are locked and they have to uninstall with a custom install/repair installation of LO. I did a modify install and all dictionaries except EN were already marked not to install. There were no options to remove them in the Extension list. These unwanted extensions are all kinds of dictionaries like Russian, Vietnamese, Swiss and many more. Why are they there when the install program was instructed not to install them? Does anyone else see this? Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:08:48 + (GMT) Ahah, i think you have to download the 2nd file as advised in quite a few places in order to get help-files downloaded onto your machine. Many people would consider the help-files extra bloat and struggle to keep their system bloat-free. At least i think that is how it works with most OpenSource programs. Regards from Tom :) Tom, If you reread my original post you will see that I did that. Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
** Reply to message from Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com on Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:23:24 +0100 Hi, Cliff, you hijacked a thread (meaning replying to an email and only changing the subject). Please ask new questions in a new thread (by composing a new message and not replying). Your email appears in a different thread in my mail client. So you might get less responses to your question. Thanks. On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:52:15 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: Greetings everyone, I've used OOo for a number of years. Today I installed LibreOffice to see how it did. So far so good, but one glitch that maybe someone can help me with. After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? Thanks for any help anyone can give. Which version did you install? Did you also install the corresponding language pack? If I remember correctly, you have to install 1. software package 2. language package 3. help package In this order. I agree, that this is unfortunate. I don't know, if this is well explained on the download page or not. If not, it should be added there, so that the user doesn't get a surprise of a not working local help. Thanks for our response Sigrid. I did indeed hijack a thread not knowing it would make any difference at all. I'll take your suggestion regarding starting a new thread in the future. I downloaded and installed the LibreOffice 3.3 US English Multi version, i.e. not the universal one will all the other languages. I started LO then realized that the help went online and remembered that I had to install the help package. I closed LO installed the help package and tried again, but it still goes directly to the online help. I even restarted the computer. Finally I ran the setup from the help directory and told it to check everything which it did, but still no help. I wonder if the problem was running LO before installing help. Maybe I should uninstall everything and reinstall and see if it helps. Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: WinXP LibO offline help
** Reply to message from lnvas _at_data.bg ln...@data.bg on Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:25:12 +0200 On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:52:15 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: ... I've used OOo for a number of years. Today I installed LibreOffice to see how it did. So far so good, but one glitch that maybe someone can help me with. After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? ... Hi Everyone, Thank you to all who made suggestions on how to solve my problem. I solved the problem by uninstalling both the help and program files, rebooting and then reinstalling everything. I think the issue may have be complicated by the fact that the first time I installed the help files I installed them to their own directory and not to the root of the LibreOffice installed directory as is normal. Even though it was allowed, apparently the link was not setup to the new directory so the program didn't see the files. Bug??? Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Question
Greetings everyone, I've used OOo for a number of years. Today I installed LibreOffice to see how it did. So far so good, but one glitch that maybe someone can help me with. After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? Thanks for any help anyone can give. Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
