Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Yeh, i wondered the same but it is a different issue.  As Joel pointed out
you can see the Bold button on the icon-bar is not de-pressed in when the
cursor is in the middle of the heading 3 text.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 10 September 2014 23:41, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:


 On 09/10/2014 03:06 PM, jomali wrote:
  I downloaded the file and examined the parameters of the Level 3 style
  in the document and found that, under Font Effects, Gray is checked.
  Could this be the source of the difficulty?
 No because the issue is that it's inconsistent, not that it's
 consistently not bolding. Also the same problem happens with other
 heading styles -- just used #3 as an example.

 Best,
 Joel


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Joel Madero
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing

There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
previous line when you start typing.



Best,
Joel

On 09/09/2014 01:21 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
 Well, styles are over-ridden by manual formatting, for one. So if a
 Style specifies a bold font, but you click a button to turn it off, it
 should go off.

 Regards,



 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 mailto:jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like
 bold. I
 am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can provide an
 example if need be.


 Best,
 Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It is bold but Header 3 makes things grey in the Font Effects tab so it
just doesn't look as bold as usual.
Regards from
Tom :)

On 10 September 2014 16:01, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:


 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing

 There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
 times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
 style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
 previous line when you start typing.



 Best,
 Joel

 On 09/09/2014 01:21 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
  Well, styles are over-ridden by manual formatting, for one. So if a
  Style specifies a bold font, but you click a button to turn it off, it
  should go off.
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
  mailto:jmadero@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like
  bold. I
  am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can provide an
  example if need be.
 
 
  Best,
  Joel
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Joel Madero
LOL come on Tom - you know me better than that. It's not bolded for me -
I look at the bold icon and it is not pressed. Then when I push ctrl  +
b the font changes to the bold like all the other heading 3'syou
should know that I wouldn't make such a mistake. If you really want
proof I can upload another one with the line not bolded ;)


Best,
Joel


On 09/10/2014 08:08 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :) 
 It is bold but Header 3 makes things grey in the Font Effects tab
 so it just doesn't look as bold as usual. 
 Regards from
 Tom :) 

 On 10 September 2014 16:01, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 mailto:jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing

 There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
 times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
 style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
 previous line when you start typing.



 Best,
 Joel

 On 09/09/2014 01:21 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
  Well, styles are over-ridden by manual formatting, for one. So if a
  Style specifies a bold font, but you click a button to turn it
 off, it
  should go off.
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Joel Madero
 jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com
  mailto:jmadero@gmail.com mailto:jmadero@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi All,
 
  Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like
  bold. I
  am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can
 provide an
  example if need be.
 
 
  Best,
  Joel
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Sophie
Hi Joel,
Le 10/09/2014 17:01, Joel Madero a écrit :
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
 There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
 times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
 style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
 previous line when you start typing.

It's strange because if you insert a Title3 before the last paragraph,
it's bold. It's only if you add it at the very end that it's corrupted.
You found a bug I guess ;)
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Joel Madero

On 09/10/2014 08:21 AM, Sophie wrote:
 Hi Joel,
 Le 10/09/2014 17:01, Joel Madero a écrit :
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing

 There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
 times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
 style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
 previous line when you start typing.
 It's strange because if you insert a Title3 before the last paragraph,
 it's bold. It's only if you add it at the very end that it's corrupted.
 You found a bug I guess ;)
\O/ Sweet! One point for me :-D That being said, it's actually not just
the end - that's just one of the obvious ways to trigger the issue. I'd
have to play around with the document to find another consistent place
where it happens. I shall report the bug, quite minor I suppose since
you can always just select and bold the text - just styles should be
consistent all the time (as this is their entire point). Thanks Sophie
for confirmation that I'm not going crazy.


Best,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Just confirmed on LO 4.2.6 on Ubuntu.

Of course Joel was right!  The B button wasn't pushed in but in the styles
settings it was marked.  I looked in the obscure only, not in the obvious.
I've also only just noticed several style changes in the UI that look
rather nice.  Several icons look much prettier and/or clearer now.  The
Bold button has a nice lighting effect.

Nice work and good changes! :)))
Regards from
Tom :)


On 10 September 2014 16:29, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:


 On 09/10/2014 08:21 AM, Sophie wrote:
  Hi Joel,
  Le 10/09/2014 17:01, Joel Madero a écrit :
 
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
  There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
  times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
  style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
  previous line when you start typing.
  It's strange because if you insert a Title3 before the last paragraph,
  it's bold. It's only if you add it at the very end that it's corrupted.
  You found a bug I guess ;)
 \O/ Sweet! One point for me :-D That being said, it's actually not just
 the end - that's just one of the obvious ways to trigger the issue. I'd
 have to play around with the document to find another consistent place
 where it happens. I shall report the bug, quite minor I suppose since
 you can always just select and bold the text - just styles should be
 consistent all the time (as this is their entire point). Thanks Sophie
 for confirmation that I'm not going crazy.


 Best,
 Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Dave Barton
Joel Madero wrote:
 
 On 09/10/2014 08:21 AM, Sophie wrote:
 Hi Joel,
 Le 10/09/2014 17:01, Joel Madero a écrit :
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing

 There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
 times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
 style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
 previous line when you start typing.
 It's strange because if you insert a Title3 before the last paragraph,
 it's bold. It's only if you add it at the very end that it's corrupted.
 You found a bug I guess ;)
 \O/ Sweet! One point for me :-D That being said, it's actually not just
 the end - that's just one of the obvious ways to trigger the issue. I'd
 have to play around with the document to find another consistent place
 where it happens. I shall report the bug, quite minor I suppose since
 you can always just select and bold the text - just styles should be
 consistent all the time (as this is their entire point). Thanks Sophie
 for confirmation that I'm not going crazy.
 
 
 Best,
 Joel

Don't be in too much of a rush to post a bug Joel. Wherever I type on a
blank line in your example file and set Heading 3 (either before or
after typing) I get 14pt Bold Liberation Sans text in a User Defined
colour. Which in my assessment is the correct behaviour.

Setting existing manually formatted text to Heading 3 is an issue, if
the formatting is not completely cleared first.

Version: 4.3.1.2
Build ID: 958349dc3b25111dbca392fbc281a05559ef6848
Win 7 x64

If it would help I can test a few other versions and Linux later.

Best
Dave




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Joel Madero

 Don't be in too much of a rush to post a bug Joel. Wherever I type on a
 blank line in your example file and set Heading 3 (either before or
 after typing) I get 14pt Bold Liberation Sans text in a User Defined
 colour. Which in my assessment is the correct behaviour.

 Setting existing manually formatted text to Heading 3 is an issue, if
 the formatting is not completely cleared first.
I have confirmation from 4 people that this is a bug so indeed going to
report a bug.


Best,
Joel


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Steve Edmonds

Stays bold in Version 3.6:build-304 so a regression.
steve
On 2014-09-11 03:01, Joel Madero wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing

There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
previous line when you start typing.



Best,
Joel

On 09/09/2014 01:21 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:

Well, styles are over-ridden by manual formatting, for one. So if a
Style specifies a bold font, but you click a button to turn it off, it
should go off.

Regards,



On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
mailto:jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like
 bold. I
 am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can provide an
 example if need be.


 Best,
 Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Joel Madero
Hm - in bibisect package I can't confirm that, I went all the way back
to 3.5beta0 :-/ Can you add your findings to the bug?


Best,
Joel

On 09/10/2014 11:25 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
 Stays bold in Version 3.6:build-304 so a regression.
 steve
 On 2014-09-11 03:01, Joel Madero wrote:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing


 There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
 times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
 style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
 previous line when you start typing.



 Best,
 Joel

 On 09/09/2014 01:21 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
 Well, styles are over-ridden by manual formatting, for one. So if a
 Style specifies a bold font, but you click a button to turn it off, it
 should go off.

 Regards,



 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
 mailto:jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi All,

  Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like
  bold. I
  am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can
 provide an
  example if need be.


  Best,
  Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Calligra picked up on the styles correctly!
Regards from
Tom :)

On 10 September 2014 19:29, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hm - in bibisect package I can't confirm that, I went all the way back
 to 3.5beta0 :-/ Can you add your findings to the bug?


 Best,
 Joel

 On 09/10/2014 11:25 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
  Stays bold in Version 3.6:build-304 so a regression.
  steve
  On 2014-09-11 03:01, Joel Madero wrote:
 
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kdRhc960qdMlFhVzAtTllETEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
 
  There is one example file. Go to the very end, push enter a couple
  times, and then set the style to Heading 3. If you look at the actual
  style it's supposed to be bolded but it retains non bold from the
  previous line when you start typing.
 
 
 
  Best,
  Joel
 
  On 09/09/2014 01:21 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
  Well, styles are over-ridden by manual formatting, for one. So if a
  Style specifies a bold font, but you click a button to turn it off, it
  should go off.
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
  mailto:jmadero@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi All,
 
   Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like
   bold. I
   am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can
  provide an
   example if need be.
 
 
   Best,
   Joel
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-10 Thread Joel Madero

On 09/10/2014 03:06 PM, jomali wrote:
 I downloaded the file and examined the parameters of the Level 3 style
 in the document and found that, under Font Effects, Gray is checked.
 Could this be the source of the difficulty?
No because the issue is that it's inconsistent, not that it's
consistently not bolding. Also the same problem happens with other
heading styles -- just used #3 as an example.

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[libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-09 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All,

Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like bold. I
am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can provide an
example if need be.


Best,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles Don't Retain Bold?

2014-09-09 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Well, styles are over-ridden by manual formatting, for one. So if a Style
specifies a bold font, but you click a button to turn it off, it should go
off.

Regards,



On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 Quick question. Are styles supposed to retain properties like bold. I
 am consistently getting mixed results using styles. I can provide an
 example if need be.


 Best,
 Joel

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