Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 18/5/24 18:10, John Pilkington wrote:

On 18/05/2024 03:17, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 17/5/24 22:43, John Pilkington wrote:

On 17/05/2024 13:08, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, 16 May 2024 23:04:21 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote:


Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install. For 
470xx the
module failed to compile. For newer cards, users sometimes end up 
with
unsigned drivers. This usually means they rebooted too quickly 
(during the

window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).


Or before the depmod done by the postintall of the kmod-nvidia-KERNEL
RPM finishes.

I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this 
case I
had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically 
when

the installs were completed.


Right: more precisely as soon as dnf system-upgrade finishes.

As said earlier on this list:

   I made a proposal to prevent that:

 kmod failed to load after upgrade Fedora using dnf system-upgrade
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120

   still waiting for approval.


This morning 'dnf upgrade' on one of my boxes installed the 
470.239.06-2 versions of akmod and kmod, while the other box, having 
the -1 nersions, said there was 'nothing to do';  then packagekit 
found them and did a preliminary reboot before install.  Both boxes 
now have the -2 versions installed and running.  The process does 
take several minutes - and I did an "akmods --rebuild --force" just 
to make sure.


F40 with plasma-workspace-x11 does seem to be working well now for 
me, and can use vdpau.
How did you get Xorg working with Plasma as I can't see any group in 
dnf to install that?


The path to where I am now has been complicated, mainly because my 
nvidia hardware is 'legacy' and its 470xx driver has not claimed to 
support Wayland.  Under Wayland all cpus max out, and keyboard/mouse 
are almost unusable.  YMMV.


dnf info plasma-workspace-x11

It's in the Fedora 'updates' repo.
Thanks John. I hadn't thought about looking in the repo for that 
package, I was expecting it to be in the group package options. I'll 
install that even if for no other reason other reason than I have never 
liked Wayland. I use the 550 drivers so Wayland support is not an issue, 
I just don't like it.




The other thing I didn't like with the F40 upgrade was in F39 I had 
dnf configured to retain 5 kernels, but the F40 upgrade reset that 
back to 3.


My system has 450 MB /boot, space for only 2 kernels + rescue.
I have a 50GB /boot so I have plenty of space for 5 kernels + any rescue 
kernels that exist.


regards,
Steve


regards,
Steve



John P

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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-17 Thread Stephen Morris

On 18/5/24 09:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote:



On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 5:46 AM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


I used dnf to system-upgrade to F40, which downloaded all the
relevant
packages, and then I rebooted through dnf.
The restart updated all the packages and automatically rebooted
when it
was finished.
[...]
This was a lot of work to resolve, and is the worst experience
I've had
with any fedora system upgrade.


Next time, you should consider following 
<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/>. 
It has never failed me.
That was the instructions I followed, except for step 4 as I wasn't 
asked to verify the import keys.
Some of my issues were also relative to configurations and settings that 
I had in F39 were wiped with the F40 upgrade.
The one thing those instructions don't elaborate on is when things like 
Plasma won't start apparently because of UEFI issues when the UEFI keys 
that were registered with F39 were still registered after the upgrade.


regards,
Steve



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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-17 Thread Stephen Morris

On 17/5/24 22:43, John Pilkington wrote:

On 17/05/2024 13:08, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, 16 May 2024 23:04:21 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote:


Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install. For 
470xx the

module failed to compile. For newer cards, users sometimes end up with
unsigned drivers. This usually means they rebooted too quickly 
(during the

window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).


Or before the depmod done by the postintall of the kmod-nvidia-KERNEL
RPM finishes.


I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this case I
had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically when
the installs were completed.


Right: more precisely as soon as dnf system-upgrade finishes.

As said earlier on this list:

   I made a proposal to prevent that:

 kmod failed to load after upgrade Fedora using dnf system-upgrade
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120

   still waiting for approval.


This morning 'dnf upgrade' on one of my boxes installed the 
470.239.06-2 versions of akmod and kmod, while the other box, having 
the -1 nersions, said there was 'nothing to do';  then packagekit 
found them and did a preliminary reboot before install.  Both boxes 
now have the -2 versions installed and running.  The process does take 
several minutes - and I did an "akmods --rebuild --force" just to make 
sure.


F40 with plasma-workspace-x11 does seem to be working well now for me, 
and can use vdpau.
How did you get Xorg working with Plasma as I can't see any group in dnf 
to install that?


The other thing I didn't like with the F40 upgrade was in F39 I had dnf 
configured to retain 5 kernels, but the F40 upgrade reset that back to 3.


regards,
Steve



John P



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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-16 Thread Stephen Morris

On 16/5/24 22:13, John Pilkington wrote:

On 16/05/2024 12:33, George N. White III wrote:
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:46 AM Stephen Morris 
mailto:samor...@netspace.net.au>> wrote:


    I used dnf to system-upgrade to F40, which downloaded all the 
relevant

    packages, and then I rebooted through dnf.


Did you do all the steps in 
<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/ 
<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/>>? 



    The restart updated all the packages and automatically rebooted 
when it

    was finished.
    When the grub menu was displayed after the reboot it was obvious 
that

    the upgrade did not update the grub config as there was no entry to
    boot
    off the F40 installed kernel.
    I booted to the display manager which I think is still gdm, and the
    first thing I noticed there was the "plasma on xorg" selection 
had been
    removed but the "Gnome on xorg" and "Gnome Classic on xorg" were 
still

    there.
    I selected the "Plasma" entry and booted into Plasma.
    Having loaded Plasma I then went into the system entries menu and 
went

    through all the options again, and it was obvious from this that the
    display options I had configured with F39 had been wiped with F40. I
    configured the display settings again and set the new HDR option 
as I

    have a HDR monitor.
    After the configuration changes I rebuilt the grub menus using
    grub2-mkconfig to get a boot entry for the new kernel, and rebooted.
    With the reboot from the new kernel, and for that matter any of the
    older kernels, I got a message that the nvidia driver was not 
found and

    it was falling back to the nouveau driver, I don't know how as the
    nvidia driver was black listed in the grub menus.


Which nvidia driver was blacklisted (nouveau or nvidia-???)? There 
have been
problems with older Nvidia cards.  Were you using nouveau on F39 or 
nvidia, and
how did you install the nvidia driver (there are multiple sites with 
different installers).
My old iMac uses 470xx from rpmfusion, which was initially in 
no-maintainer status
and required a simple patch to run on current kernels.  Last I check 
the driver was in

testing.

  From the display manager I loaded Plasma as I did after the first
    upgrade boot, and Plasma displayed a black screen and never went any
    further, irrespective of how long I left it for, and the only way I
    could get out of that state was to use the physical reset button 
on the

    computer.
    On reboot, if I selected "Gnome" or "Gnome on Xorg", gnome would 
start
    up quite happily, but logging out and starting Plasma would still 
hang

    the computer.
    So rebooting again to the display manager login screen, I used
    ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to a terminal login process. Logging into the
    terminal the first thing I did was use mokutil to check the uefi 
status
    and it told me that uefi was disabled even though it was enabled 
in the

    bios.
    I checked whether the signing key was enrolled and it was, but the
    system wasn't using the nvidia driver even though it was 
installed, and

    a reinstall of kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia did nothing to alleviate
    the
    issue.


Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install.  For 470xx
the module failed to compile.  For newer cards, users sometimes end up
with unsigned drivers.  This usually means they rebooted too quickly 
(during

the window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).

    So I uninstalled the kmod-nvidia module, and did a force 
re-enroll of
    the uefi signed key (potentially with a new key), and then 
rebooted to
    go through the mokutil enrolment required at boot. This did not 
resolve

    the Plasm start issue, so I loaded Gnome.
    Once in Gnome I started Firefox Nightly to do some net searches 
to see
    if I could find a solution, and the one thing that did happen at 
this

    point was the boot did not display the "falling back to nouveau"
    message, but the start of firefox displayed a message that a gpu
    couldn't be found on pci. Looking for a resolution to this I 
found an

    entry about, as part of installed nvidia drivers, to ensure the gpu
    firmware was also installed.
    So I did a dnf install nvidia-gpu-firmware which was then 
installed as

    it hadn't been already.


If you had installed nvidia-??? from a 3rd party repo the Fedora 
firmware

package might not be required, but it is needed for nouveau.

    After installing the firmware I rebooted and started Plasma, which
    successfully started without issues, and when I checked the video
    driver
    it was finally using the nvidia driver.
    This was a lot of work to resolve, and is the worst experience 
I've had

    with any fedora system upgrade.


Blame Nvidia for forcing Fedora in

Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-16 Thread Stephen Morris


On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote:
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 6:46 AM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


I used dnf to system-upgrade to F40, which downloaded all the
relevant
packages, and then I rebooted through dnf.


Did you do all the steps in 
<https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/>?

I did, except step 4 as I wasn't asked to verify the imported key.


The restart updated all the packages and automatically rebooted
when it
was finished.
When the grub menu was displayed after the reboot it was obvious that
the upgrade did not update the grub config as there was no entry
to boot
off the F40 installed kernel.
I booted to the display manager which I think is still gdm, and the
first thing I noticed there was the "plasma on xorg" selection had
been
removed but the "Gnome on xorg" and "Gnome Classic on xorg" were
still
there.
I selected the "Plasma" entry and booted into Plasma.
Having loaded Plasma I then went into the system entries menu and
went
through all the options again, and it was obvious from this that the
display options I had configured with F39 had been wiped with F40. I
configured the display settings again and set the new HDR option as I
have a HDR monitor.
After the configuration changes I rebuilt the grub menus using
grub2-mkconfig to get a boot entry for the new kernel, and rebooted.
With the reboot from the new kernel, and for that matter any of the
older kernels, I got a message that the nvidia driver was not
found and
it was falling back to the nouveau driver, I don't know how as the
nvidia driver was black listed in the grub menus.


Which nvidia driver was blacklisted (nouveau or nvidia-???)?  There 
have been
problems with older Nvidia cards.  Were you using nouveau on F39 or 
nvidia, and
how did you install the nvidia driver (there are multiple sites with 
different installers).
My old iMac uses 470xx from rpmfusion, which was initially in 
no-maintainer status
and required a simple patch to run on current kernels. Last I check 
the driver was in

testing.
Sorry, I meant the nouveau driver was blacklisted. I have always used 
the nvidia driver from rpmfusion as I have needed the hardware 
acceleration the nvidia driver provides. I was using the nvidia driver 
in F39 both via kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia for backup.


 From the display manager I loaded Plasma as I did after the first
upgrade boot, and Plasma displayed a black screen and never went any
further, irrespective of how long I left it for, and the only way I
could get out of that state was to use the physical reset button
on the
computer.
On reboot, if I selected "Gnome" or "Gnome on Xorg", gnome would
start
up quite happily, but logging out and starting Plasma would still
hang
the computer.
So rebooting again to the display manager login screen, I used
ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to a terminal login process. Logging into the
terminal the first thing I did was use mokutil to check the uefi
status
and it told me that uefi was disabled even though it was enabled
in the
bios.
I checked whether the signing key was enrolled and it was, but the
system wasn't using the nvidia driver even though it was
installed, and
a reinstall of kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia did nothing to
alleviate the
issue.


Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install.  For 470xx
the module failed to compile.  For newer cards, users sometimes end up
with unsigned drivers.  This usually means they rebooted too quickly 
(during

the window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).
I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this case I 
had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically when 
the installs were completed. I'm using the 550 driver as that is one the 
system selected for my RTX 3080 graphics card.


So I uninstalled the kmod-nvidia module, and did a force re-enroll of
the uefi signed key (potentially with a new key), and then
rebooted to
go through the mokutil enrolment required at boot. This did not
resolve
the Plasm start issue, so I loaded Gnome.
Once in Gnome I started Firefox Nightly to do some net searches to
see
if I could find a solution, and the one thing that did happen at this
point was the boot did not display the "falling back to nouveau"
message, but the start of firefox displayed a message that a gpu
couldn't be found on pci. Looking for a resolution to this I found an
entry about, as part of installed nvidia drivers, to ensure the gpu
firmware was also installed.
So I did a dnf install nvidia-gpu-firmware which was then
installed as
it hadn't been already.


If you had installed nvidia

My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-16 Thread Stephen Morris
I used dnf to system-upgrade to F40, which downloaded all the relevant 
packages, and then I rebooted through dnf.
The restart updated all the packages and automatically rebooted when it 
was finished.
When the grub menu was displayed after the reboot it was obvious that 
the upgrade did not update the grub config as there was no entry to boot 
off the F40 installed kernel.
I booted to the display manager which I think is still gdm, and the 
first thing I noticed there was the "plasma on xorg" selection had been 
removed but the "Gnome on xorg" and "Gnome Classic on xorg" were still 
there.

I selected the "Plasma" entry and booted into Plasma.
Having loaded Plasma I then went into the system entries menu and went 
through all the options again, and it was obvious from this that the 
display options I had configured with F39 had been wiped with F40. I 
configured the display settings again and set the new HDR option as I 
have a HDR monitor.
After the configuration changes I rebuilt the grub menus using 
grub2-mkconfig to get a boot entry for the new kernel, and rebooted.
With the reboot from the new kernel, and for that matter any of the 
older kernels, I got a message that the nvidia driver was not found and 
it was falling back to the nouveau driver, I don't know how as the 
nvidia driver was black listed in the grub menus.
From the display manager I loaded Plasma as I did after the first 
upgrade boot, and Plasma displayed a black screen and never went any 
further, irrespective of how long I left it for, and the only way I 
could get out of that state was to use the physical reset button on the 
computer.
On reboot, if I selected "Gnome" or "Gnome on Xorg", gnome would start 
up quite happily, but logging out and starting Plasma would still hang 
the computer.
So rebooting again to the display manager login screen, I used 
ctrl+alt+F2 to switch to a terminal login process. Logging into the 
terminal the first thing I did was use mokutil to check the uefi status 
and it told me that uefi was disabled even though it was enabled in the 
bios.
I checked whether the signing key was enrolled and it was, but the 
system wasn't using the nvidia driver even though it was installed, and 
a reinstall of kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia did nothing to alleviate the 
issue.
So I uninstalled the kmod-nvidia module, and did a force re-enroll of 
the uefi signed key (potentially with a new key), and then rebooted to 
go through the mokutil enrolment required at boot. This did not resolve 
the Plasm start issue, so I loaded Gnome.
Once in Gnome I started Firefox Nightly to do some net searches to see 
if I could find a solution, and the one thing that did happen at this 
point was the boot did not display the "falling back to nouveau" 
message, but the start of firefox displayed a message that a gpu 
couldn't be found on pci. Looking for a resolution to this I found an 
entry about, as part of installed nvidia drivers, to ensure the gpu 
firmware was also installed.
So I did a dnf install nvidia-gpu-firmware which was then installed as 
it hadn't been already.
After installing the firmware I rebooted and started Plasma, which 
successfully started without issues, and when I checked the video driver 
it was finally using the nvidia driver.
This was a lot of work to resolve, and is the worst experience I've had 
with any fedora system upgrade.


regards,
Steve


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Re: If X11 login goes, what happens with x2go?

2024-04-07 Thread Stephen Morris

On 7/4/24 19:20, Barry Scott wrote:




On 3 Apr 2024, at 23:23, Stephen Morris  wrote:

Thanks Barry. I just tried Wayland on KDE plasma and it does set the 
resolution to 4K, but it has its scaling of the taskbar horribly 
wrong. Having scaled the display to 150% so that things can be read, 
in the system tray, before the twistie to show hidden icons, I have 6 
icons displayed (wifi, audio, bluetooth etc) which X11 shows as a 
single row of 6 and the taskbar sized accordingly. In Wayland those 6 
system tray icons are displayed as 2 rows of 3, with the taskbar 
scaled to double the height of what it is under X11, this then scales 
all the throbber and pinned application icons to double size as well 
as the system date and time and the desktop peek icons.


I am running with 125% scaling.

The height of the task bar (?) can be adjustabled to suit your needs.
Right click in the task bar and choose "Enter Edit Mode

I have it big enough to have 2 rows of task icons, which means I have 
3 rows of systray icons.
Thanks Barry, I can rescale it via Edit, I just wasn't expecting to have 
to. I would have expected the taskbar to be a standard height, with the 
user scaling it as you have done if they so desire. In my view this is a 
Wayland defect.


regards,
Steve



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Re: If X11 login goes, what happens with x2go?

2024-04-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 28/3/24 09:06, Barry wrote:



On 27 Mar 2024, at 21:57, Stephen Morris  wrote:

I have a BenQ EL2870U monitor on my F39 system. The last time I looked at 
Wayland in KDE or Gnome it refused to scale the monitor to 4K, whereas X11 
would do so quite happily. If X11 support is being dropped in F40, is the issue 
with Wayland not allowing 4K resolution on a 4K monitor being rectified before 
they do so, or has it been rectified already?

I have a Dell 4k monitor that works in 4k under kde plasma wayland on f39 and 
f40.

What gpu do you have? What drivers are you using?
If your monitor has bad EDID then linux will have provlems.
You may see errors in dmesg about this.
Thanks Barry. I just tried Wayland on KDE plasma and it does set the 
resolution to 4K, but it has its scaling of the taskbar horribly wrong. 
Having scaled the display to 150% so that things can be read, in the 
system tray, before the twistie to show hidden icons, I have 6 icons 
displayed (wifi, audio, bluetooth etc) which X11 shows as a single row 
of 6 and the taskbar sized accordingly. In Wayland those 6 system tray 
icons are displayed as 2 rows of 3, with the taskbar scaled to double 
the height of what it is under X11, this then scales all the throbber 
and pinned application icons to double size as well as the system date 
and time and the desktop peek icons.


regards,
Steve



Barry


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Re: Failed to find a suitable stage1 device

2024-04-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 4/4/24 00:50, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Tue, 2 Apr 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote:

The efi partition probably needs to be bigger than that, but it also 
has to be mounted at /boot/efi as indicated.


Ah!  With custom partitioning,
anaconda needs to be explicitly told
the EFI partition is the EFI partition.
Anaconda needs to have all the partitions you are going to install to 
mounted and to be told what the partition format is, hence you would 
need to tell anaconda to mount the efi partition as /boot/efi and its 
format is efi. Having done that don't specify to format that partition 
as with Windows installed, Windows is potentially also using that 
partition as its efi partition.


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Re: If X11 login goes, what happens with x2go?

2024-03-27 Thread Stephen Morris

On 28/3/24 03:34, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 09:59:04AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:

I totally depend on x2go for connection to my remote server.  With f40,
what happens?  Is login to X11 desktop supported?  I assume this is
required for x2go to work.

In f40, the kde desktop is no longer shipping a X11 session option.
So, if you are using kde, you may not be able to login to a x session
(unless you install the not maintained by the KDE sig session packages
again).

If you aren't using kde, everything should be the same for you.

In F41, workstation is considering dropping their x session, so again
there you may be affected in f41 if you use gnome/workstation.

Eventually, you may need to look at moving from x2go to something else,
but you probibly have more time until you must do so.
I have a BenQ EL2870U monitor on my F39 system. The last time I looked 
at Wayland in KDE or Gnome it refused to scale the monitor to 4K, 
whereas X11 would do so quite happily. If X11 support is being dropped 
in F40, is the issue with Wayland not allowing 4K resolution on a 4K 
monitor being rectified before they do so, or has it been rectified already?


regards,
Steve


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Re: How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 22/3/24 09:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/21/24 15:06, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 21/3/24 09:38, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/20/24 15:30, Stephen Morris wrote:
Given that you are indicating that you are booting off a raid 
environment and hence have Fedora installed on raid, I'm assuming 
you are using Fedora server, is that correct? I'm just curious 
because I played around with using Raid 10 a couple of years ago 
and ran into issues where Fedora workstation would not install on 
raid only Fedora server had support for doing that.


I don't know why there would be a difference.  The installer and 
drivers are the same in both cases.  I've never used the server 
install and I've been using software raid for a long time.
Sorry, I was referring to physical raid from a motherboard that 
provided built in Raid 10 support. At the time I was doing this it 
was documented that Fedora workstation did support installing on Raid 
but Fedora Server did. I was just playing around with the environment 
and one issue I had was you had to install drivers into the installer 
for it to see the raid partition, and the motherboard only built 
drivers for windows, so I finished up installing the boot partition 
for Fedora on a non-raid devices and the rest of the partitions on raid.


That's why I mentioned that the drivers are the same in both cases.  I 
don't know why Workstation wouldn't be able to do it. But also, the OP 
specifically mentioned that he was using software raid anyway.

Sorry, I missed that bit.

regards,
Steve


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Re: Fedora 39 python3-pygame Module Issue

2024-03-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 22/3/24 09:07, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/21/24 14:45, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 22/3/24 00:18, Barry wrote:
On 20 Mar 2024, at 22:19, Stephen Morris  
wrote:


Just a couple of silly questions:
 AVX cpu's, both Intel and AMD, have been around since 2008, 
and this is 2024, why does Fedora not have support for the AVXx 
instruction sets?

Not all recent CPUs have AVX, only some CPUs I believe.
Therefore the preference for detect at runtime.
I can understand the runtime detection, but why is pygame, presumably 
with its support for vectors, not compiled to use AVX if available. 
The math module doesn't produce the message, even though AVX can be 
used with integer manipulations, does that mean it has been compiled 
with AVX support or is it not checking for support?
With, in this case, the pygame module having been installed from the 
Fedora repositories and producing this issue, does that mean I 
shouldn't install the modules from the Fedora repositories, I should 
use pip3 to install the modules as they may be compiled with AVX 
support?
The message I got indicated that my cpu supports AVX2, how do I 
determine if it supports AVX512?


The message is about AVX2, not AVX.  The computer I'm currently using 
is an Intel Xeon from 2019 or maybe a bit earlier.  It has AVX, but 
not any of the higher ones.


You can look in /proc/cpuinfo to see the flags, or install "cpuid" to 
get very detailed information.
Thanks Samuel. I don't actually need that level of support, I was just 
curious. Until I got the message I hadn't thought about anything related 
to AVX. The only reason I got the message was I'm following lessons in a 
Python book to refresh my python knowledge for future use at work, and 
the book was using pygame as an example of how to import modules. I'm 
running an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core which I installed 18 months or so ago.



regards,
Steve


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Re: How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 21/3/24 09:38, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/20/24 15:30, Stephen Morris wrote:
Given that you are indicating that you are booting off a raid 
environment and hence have Fedora installed on raid, I'm assuming you 
are using Fedora server, is that correct? I'm just curious because I 
played around with using Raid 10 a couple of years ago and ran into 
issues where Fedora workstation would not install on raid only Fedora 
server had support for doing that.


I don't know why there would be a difference.  The installer and 
drivers are the same in both cases.  I've never used the server 
install and I've been using software raid for a long time.
Sorry, I was referring to physical raid from a motherboard that provided 
built in Raid 10 support. At the time I was doing this it was documented 
that Fedora workstation did support installing on Raid but Fedora Server 
did. I was just playing around with the environment and one issue I had 
was you had to install drivers into the installer for it to see the raid 
partition, and the motherboard only built drivers for windows, so I 
finished up installing the boot partition for Fedora on a non-raid 
devices and the rest of the partitions on raid.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?

2024-03-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 22/3/24 08:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Dave Ihnat writes:

But with the talk of using HP AiOs, I had to pipe up. I have advised 
all my
clients to no longer buy HP printers of any type, including the AiOs, 
and
will personally never buy another HP printer until and unless they 
back off

their current policies and practices.


I believe that the policies and practices described here are for HP's 
inkjets.


Their reputation definitely precedes them.

HP's laser printers had a little bit bit rep. I've had much better 
luck, historically, with HP's laser printers than with other brands. 
The one I'm currently wrangling with is a laser.


I keep reading good things said about Brother scanners/all-in-ones. 
Reading into details, it's always one of two things. It also involves 
a driver download, like hplip's modus operandi, and it's not really an 
out of the box solution. Alternatively, the alleged printer model is 
nowhere to be found in xsane's hardware database. So, it's basically 
pot luck: buy it, and hope that it works.


Anyway, I think I managed to get this HP to work over Ethernet. With a 
direct USB connection xsane is still erroring out. But Ethernet seems 
to be working.



But now they have. Take a look at:

https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/


Yes, and looks like they're starting to push this onto the laser 
printers too, as I see from the packaging and the marketing material 
on this laser.
I have an Epson ET3700 All_in_one printer/scanner connected as a network 
device on my router via ethernet (it supports wifi but where it is 
situated it can see a wifi signal. I'm also using the 80211AX protocol 
on my router). Epson have a driver for the printer but I don't use it, I 
use the headerless driver from cups. I use simple document scanner for 
scanning and looking at the KDE Throbber I don't appear to have either 
Sane or Xsane installed on F39. The one issue I do have with Simple 
Scanner is on start up it doesn't see the scanner, I have to refresh its 
detection for it to see the device.


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Re: Fedora 39 python3-pygame Module Issue

2024-03-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 22/3/24 00:18, Barry wrote:

On 20 Mar 2024, at 22:19, Stephen Morris  wrote:

Just a couple of silly questions:
 AVX cpu's, both Intel and AMD, have been around since 2008, and this is 
2024, why does Fedora not have support for the AVXx instruction sets?

Not all recent CPUs have AVX, only some CPUs I believe.
Therefore the preference for detect at runtime.
I can understand the runtime detection, but why is pygame, presumably 
with its support for vectors, not compiled to use AVX if available. The 
math module doesn't produce the message, even though AVX can be used 
with integer manipulations, does that mean it has been compiled with AVX 
support or is it not checking for support?
With, in this case, the pygame module having been installed from the 
Fedora repositories and producing this issue, does that mean I shouldn't 
install the modules from the Fedora repositories, I should use pip3 to 
install the modules as they may be compiled with AVX support?
The message I got indicated that my cpu supports AVX2, how do I 
determine if it supports AVX512?


regards,
Steve



Barry

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Re: How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-20 Thread Stephen Morris

On 20/3/24 11:28, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Samuel Sieb writes:


On 3/19/24 16:50, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Samuel Sieb writes:


On 3/19/24 16:05, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

I noticed that there was a grub2 update.

 From prior experience I know that one needs to manually run 
grub2-install to actually update the bootloader. Additionally I 
run mdraid, so I need the bootloader on both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.


[root@jack ~]# grub2-install /dev/sda
Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
grub2-install: error: This utility should not be used for EFI 
platforms because it does not support UEFI Secure Boot. If you 
really wish to proceed, invoke the --force option.

Make sure Secure Boot is disabled before proceeding.


If you have an EFI system, you normally don't do anything.
Is the EFI partition part of the RAID?


Yes, /boot/efi is a RAID partition.

/dev/md123 on /boot/efi type vfat 
(rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=ascii,shortname=winnt,errors=remount-ro)


Which is /dev/sda4 and /dev/sdb4

Both the bootloader and /boot/efi is raided across two disks, so if 
one fails the other one can still be used to boot. This actually 
happened on another system with me, last year. I just popped out the 
failed HD, popped in another one, booted off the functional drive, 
and reassembled all the raid partitions.


Then there's nothing you need to do.  grub has been updated.

But what do you mean by the "bootloader" though?


Well, what actually loads grub and runs it. On my other, BIOS system, 
the one that I replaced a failed disk, recently – after I reassembled 
and resynced all RAID partitions, I ran grub2-install and I'm fairly 
certain there was a definitive change in grub's behavior, afterwards. 
Originally three periods were initially shown, for a few seconds, 
before the grub menu opened. I have a recollection that the number of 
periods is a diagnostic indications what went wrong if grub fails to 
start for some reason. This changed to a "Welcome to grub" banner.


So, it looks to me like years of regular grub updates, and countless 
Fedora releases, did not really end up updating …everything, on a BIOS 
system.
If I can ask a silly question, given that on UEFI systems grub2-install 
is redundant, and the initial messages you were getting were indicating 
you are booting in a UEFI environment, why are you running grub2-install 
at all?
Given that you are indicating that you are booting off a raid 
environment and hence have Fedora installed on raid, I'm assuming you 
are using Fedora server, is that correct? I'm just curious because I 
played around with using Raid 10 a couple of years ago and ran into 
issues where Fedora workstation would not install on raid only Fedora 
server had support for doing that.


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Re: Fedora 39 python3-pygame Module Issue

2024-03-20 Thread Stephen Morris

On 20/3/24 10:24, Jerry James wrote:

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 4:32 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

On 3/19/24 15:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

  I have installed python3-pygame V2.5.2.1 from the Fedora
repositories, and when I import it into python3 3.12 (installed from the
Fedora repositories) I get the following message:

:488: RuntimeWarning: Your system is avx2
capable but pygame was not built with support for it. The performance of
some of your blits could be adversely affected. Consider enabling
compile time detection with environment variables like
PYGAME_DETECT_AVX2=1 if you are compiling without cross compilation.
How do I fix this or is the message irrelevant?

It's not going to break anything, but I suggest filing a bug on the
package with that suggestion.

Compile-time detection of AVX2 is no good.  Fedora supports pre-AVX2
CPUs.  If upstream can be convinced to do runtime detection of AVX2,
that would be great.

Thankyou.
Just a couple of silly questions:
    AVX cpu's, both Intel and AMD, have been around since 2008, and 
this is 2024, why does Fedora not have support for the AVXx instruction 
sets?
    Given that the AVX instruction set is heavily into Integer Maths 
functionality why does the python import of the math module not produce 
the message that an import of the pygame module does (Is pygame 
producing because of the instruction set Vector interactions?).


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Fedora 39 python3-pygame Module Issue

2024-03-19 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    I have installed python3-pygame V2.5.2.1 from the Fedora 
repositories, and when I import it into python3 3.12 (installed from the 
Fedora repositories) I get the following message:


:488: RuntimeWarning: Your system is avx2 
capable but pygame was not built with support for it. The performance of 
some of your blits could be adversely affected. Consider enabling 
compile time detection with environment variables like 
PYGAME_DETECT_AVX2=1 if you are compiling without cross compilation.     
How do I fix this or is the message irrelevant?


regards,
Steve


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Re: f39:: dnfdragora broken

2023-12-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 13/12/23 05:38, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
Hi! For any kind of selection in installed packages dnfdragora breaks 
with

dnfdaemon AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'replace'

AFTER the list is returned in the windown ... is this known?
Is there where can i report this on the fedora side? (as the upstream 
can fary away in version and fixex

w.r.t the version packaged)
You might need to supply more information on what you are trying to do. 
I set dnfdragora to only display installed package and clicking on an 
entry did nothing. I had the double click on an entry the first time to 
display all the information on the package and there after single 
clicking on an entry showed all the information. I didn't get any 
failures as such.


regards,
Steve



Thanks a lot!
Adrian
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Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure [Resolved]

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris

On 1/12/23 23:09, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 1/12/23 22:54, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote:
I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in 
/etc/fstab:


192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs 
   nfs users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0


This results in the following definition in /etc/mtab:

192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2 /mnt/nfs nfs 
rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,vers=3,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,nconnect=2,timeo=600,retran
s=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.1.12,mountvers=3,mountport=57759,mountproto=udp,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.1.12 
0 0


I can read from the mount point but I can't write to it.
A    touch /mnt/nfs/filetest.txt fails with a read only volume error:

touch: cannot touch '/mnt/nfs/filetest.txt': Read-only file system

Can anyone guide me on what I am doing wrong, I am using F39, and I 
believe the fstab specification worked fine in F38 before I upgraded 
to F39.

This is an old nas device that only support nfsvers=3.
I have resetup the device via its web interface to specify that "All 
Accounts" have read/write on the cifs share the nfs share is on, but 
I still get the write failure.
I also have a cifs share define with myself and my wife having 
read/write access to the cifs share, and when I mount the share I 
user the username and password that has been defined on the server, 
which also happens to match my linux credentials, which mounts 
successfully, but it also it also gets "Access Denied" failures on write.


I'm at a loss to understand why the write access doesn't work under 
F39, as under F38 I uploaded 530 holiday photos from my digital 
camera to the nas device and also used Rawtherapee to write the 530 
file format converted photos to that nas device as well.


regards,
Steve
I stopped the nfs service on the nas and restarted it, and also 
rebooted the nas, and that resolved the nfs write issue and also 
resolved the cifs write issue as well (I hadn't considered this as a 
requirement as this is the first time I've ever had to do this since I 
bought the nas 4 or 5 years ago, although having said this occasional 
electricity blackouts may have alleviated the need for this).
What I need to work out now is why on the cifs mount from /etc/fstab the 
mount process is ignoring the "nosetuids" option.


regards,
Steve



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Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure [Resolved]

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris

On 1/12/23 22:54, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote:
I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in 
/etc/fstab:


192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs 
users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0


This results in the following definition in /etc/mtab:

192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2 /mnt/nfs nfs 
rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,vers=3,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,nconnect=2,timeo=600,retran
s=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.1.12,mountvers=3,mountport=57759,mountproto=udp,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.1.12 
0 0


I can read from the mount point but I can't write to it.
A    touch /mnt/nfs/filetest.txt fails with a read only volume error:

touch: cannot touch '/mnt/nfs/filetest.txt': Read-only file system

Can anyone guide me on what I am doing wrong, I am using F39, and I 
believe the fstab specification worked fine in F38 before I upgraded 
to F39.

This is an old nas device that only support nfsvers=3.
I have resetup the device via its web interface to specify that "All 
Accounts" have read/write on the cifs share the nfs share is on, but I 
still get the write failure.
I also have a cifs share define with myself and my wife having 
read/write access to the cifs share, and when I mount the share I user 
the username and password that has been defined on the server, which 
also happens to match my linux credentials, which mounts successfully, 
but it also it also gets "Access Denied" failures on write.


I'm at a loss to understand why the write access doesn't work under 
F39, as under F38 I uploaded 530 holiday photos from my digital camera 
to the nas device and also used Rawtherapee to write the 530 file 
format converted photos to that nas device as well.


regards,
Steve
I stopped the nfs service on the nas and restarted it, and also rebooted 
the nas, and that resolved the nfs write issue and also resolved the 
cifs write issue as well (I hadn't considered this as a requirement as 
this is the first time I've ever had to do this since I bought the nas 4 
or 5 years ago, although having said this occasional electricity 
blackouts may have alleviated the need for this).


regards,
Steve





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Re: NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-12-01 Thread Stephen Morris

On 30/11/23 22:42, Stephen Morris wrote:
I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in 
/etc/fstab:


192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs 
users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0


This results in the following definition in /etc/mtab:

192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2 /mnt/nfs nfs 
rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,vers=3,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,nconnect=2,timeo=600,retran
s=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.1.12,mountvers=3,mountport=57759,mountproto=udp,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.1.12 
0 0


I can read from the mount point but I can't write to it.
A    touch /mnt/nfs/filetest.txt fails with a read only volume error:

touch: cannot touch '/mnt/nfs/filetest.txt': Read-only file system

Can anyone guide me on what I am doing wrong, I am using F39, and I 
believe the fstab specification worked fine in F38 before I upgraded 
to F39.

This is an old nas device that only support nfsvers=3.
I have resetup the device via its web interface to specify that "All 
Accounts" have read/write on the cifs share the nfs share is on, but I 
still get the write failure.
I also have a cifs share define with myself and my wife having 
read/write access to the cifs share, and when I mount the share I user 
the username and password that has been defined on the server, which 
also happens to match my linux credentials, which mounts successfully, 
but it also it also gets "Access Denied" failures on write.


I'm at a loss to understand why the write access doesn't work under F39, 
as under F38 I uploaded 530 holiday photos from my digital camera to the 
nas device and also used Rawtherapee to write the 530 file format 
converted photos to that nas device as well.


regards,
Steve



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NFS Mount Point Write Failure

2023-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris

I have a network drive being mounted from the following entry in /etc/fstab:

192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2    /mnt/nfs    nfs 
users,nconnect=2,owner,rw,_netdev 0 0


This results in the following definition in /etc/mtab:

192.168.1.12:/mnt/HD/HD_a2 /mnt/nfs nfs 
rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,vers=3,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,nconnect=2,timeo=600,retran
s=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.1.12,mountvers=3,mountport=57759,mountproto=udp,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.1.12 
0 0


I can read from the mount point but I can't write to it.
A    touch /mnt/nfs/filetest.txt fails with a read only volume error:

touch: cannot touch '/mnt/nfs/filetest.txt': Read-only file system

Can anyone guide me on what I am doing wrong, I am using F39, and I 
believe the fstab specification worked fine in F38 before I upgraded to F39.


regards,
Steve


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Re: DNF Upgrade from F38 to F39 Issues

2023-11-30 Thread Stephen Morris

On 19/11/23 18:29, Tim via users wrote:

Jeffrey Walton wrote:

* SecureBoot should be turned off if using tainted kernel drivers. Or,
you can cutover to driver signing. I usually turn off SecureBoot
because I don't like messing around with driver signing. In my case,
it usually is due to VirtualBox, not NVIDIA.

Stephen Morris:

As my system is a tri-boot between Windows 11, Fedora 39 and Ubuntu
22.04, and Windows doesn't seem to work properly with UEFI disabled,
I've gone down the path of signing the nvidia drivers under Fedora and
Ubuntu, using separate passwords as I found using the same password
causes thing to not work properly.


UEFI is a hardware interface (simplifying that description quite a lot)
between the PC's hardware, firmware, and the OS before it boots, and
the control screens it gives you for you to configure things.  It's an
update on the similiar, but more primitive, thing done with the old
BIOS.

Secure boot is a *separate* thing (though probably only exists on
systems with UEFI).  It's to do with only booting up from signed
binaries (to verify that only authentic things can run, blocking any
fake things that have snuck in).

A problem with Secure Boot is that there are real and genuine things
you may want to use that are not signed (such as some graphics card
drivers).  One solution to that is to sign them yourself, with a
signature that you let things know that *you* trust.

("Signed" in these contexts is to do with cryptographic keys.)

Though again, it could be that Windows won't boot without secure boot
options set, not UEFI being disabled (not that I've seen a motherboard
where you could disable UEFI and go back to BIOS).
The current motherboard I have and the previous one both allow UEFI to 
be disabled and they also both provide a means to turn off secure boot 
as well.


regards,
Steve


  That and the TPM
hardware that's touted as being more fantastic than it really is.

As a home user you may feel that this security is kinda pointless, as
no-one else is going to touch your PC and sneak things in.  And
anything nasty that does get in is going to get in by your own
behaviour doing unwise things, for which you're going to ignore and
disable any warnings not to do it.  To that degree, that's true.  And
the same can be said about AntiVirus, SELinux, file permissions and
ownership.  But where such security features can help, is when you
start to do something unwise without realising it, it blocks you, and
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Re: DNF Upgrade from F38 to F39 Issues

2023-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris

On 18/11/23 14:28, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 10:08 PM Stephen Morris
 wrote:

Hi,
  I used dnf system-upgrade to upgrade from F38 to F39. After the
upgrade when I booted into gdm to login and start KDE, the machine hung
on KDE startup into X11.
  Thinking it might be an nvidia UEFI enrolment issue with the F39
nvidia drivers, I reset the machine and booted back into gdm.
  I then used ctrl+alt+F2 to start a terminal interface. In that
terminal I went through the UEFI enrolment process but that said the
drivers were already enrolled.
  I issued dmesg to see if there were any nvidia failure messages, of
which there none, but I did notice there were initialisation and what
looked like failure messages from Nouveau, but I don't understand why
there would be an Nouveau messages at all when Nouveau is blacklisted in
the kernel parameters in grub.
  I then uninstalled all the nvidia drivers that were present. I then
used ctrl+alt+delete to reboot from the terminal. That process hung for
1.5 minutes waiting for a job stop (I don't remember what it was waiting
on), and, when the 1.5 minute timer finished it then hung waiting for
XWayland to shut down. Why was it waiting for XWayland to shut down when
I don't use Wayland, I only use X11?
  On reboot, I started up KDE under Nouveau, which doesn't work
properly with my BENQ 4K monitor, it can't determine what the monitor
is, so doesn't run in the right resolutions, although it does honour the
display scaling specified when using the nvidia drivers (which do
recognise the monitor and set things up properly).
  I reinstalled the nvidia drivers and a subsequent reboot then
booted into KDE with any issues (which is where I'm sending this email
from). Why did this freezing of the nvidia drivers happen, is it because
the F39 nvidia drivers don't work properly with an update and have to be
installed from scratch to work properly?
  Also, after reinstalling the nvidia drivers, at the gdm login
screen the display manager selection options only showed "Gnome", "Gnome
Classic" and "Plasma/X11", where are the options for all of those to
swap them between Wayland and X11 if I want to, that were present in F38
before the upgrade to F39?

A couple of thoughts in no particular order. I don't know how you
should move forward with your issues.

* The KDE spin uses Wayland, not X11.

* The KDE spin uses SDDM, not GDM.
I originally installed F36 from a live DVD which installs a Gnome spin 
with gdm. I then installed KDE by doing a dnf group install of Plasma 
which still leaves GDM as the default Display Manager. I then upgraded 
to F38 via dnf system-upgrade and then to F39 via dnf system-upgrade, 
all of which leave gdm as the display manager. I can then boot into 
Gnome (which I do infrequently) and KDE both in X11 by selecting the 
appropriate menu option in a GDM, as indicated by Patrick in a 
subsequent thread.

* SecureBoot should be turned off if using tainted kernel drivers. Or,
you can cutover to driver signing. I usually turn off SecureBoot
because I don't like messing around with driver signing. In my case,
it usually is due to VirtualBox, not NVIDIA.
As my system is a tri-boot between Windows 11, Fedora 39 and Ubuntu 
22.04, and Windows doesn't seem to work properly with UEFI disabled, 
I've gone down the path of signing the nvidia drivers under Fedora and 
Ubuntu, using separate passwords as I found using the same password 
causes thing to not work properly.


regards,
Steve



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Re: DNF Upgrade from F38 to F39 Issues

2023-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris

On 18/11/23 20:05, John Pilkington wrote:

On 18/11/2023 05:11, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 11/17/23 19:08, Stephen Morris wrote:
 I reinstalled the nvidia drivers and a subsequent reboot then 
booted into KDE with any issues (which is where I'm sending this 
email from). Why did this freezing of the nvidia drivers happen, is 
it because the F39 nvidia drivers don't work properly with an update 
and have to be installed from scratch to work properly?


I think there was another thread about this.  The akmods didn't run 
properly during the update process.



https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120
Thanks Samuel and John. I wasn't expecting this as I have both the 
kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia packages installed so that I can use the 
akmod packages as a backup if the binary packages haven't been updated 
for new kernels when installed, so I was expected the kmod-nvidia driver 
to just work.
As of the boot I've just done now the issue with the missing selections 
in GDM has rectified itself.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Tip: default printer

2023-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris

On 16/11/23 02:20, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 5:58 PM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


[...]

Hi George,
    I was pointing this out because I don't use the IPP Anywhere
interface, and cups has never supplied drivers for my printer,
I've had to always the Epson supplied driver to enable printing in
Linux. This was just an observation with, when adding a printer,
cups shows me two entries under the "Discovered Network Printer"
section, one for IPP Anywhere and one for the "Driverless" option,
where the IPP Anywhere shows two separate driver definitions for
cups drivers and the driverless option, whereas the "Driverless"
selection displays all drivers in the one list with the driverless
driver listed first and all the cups drivers then listed in
alphabetical order.


I wonder if we are in a transitional phase where legacy CUPS is mixing 
with IPP.   Some manufacturers may provide legacy support in their 
printers when they add IPP,
but (until Apple changes AirPrint), most manufacturers' networked 
printers will provide IPP because they want Apple AirPrint to work for 
customers using IOS.


I have never used IPP Anywhere with this printer, IPP Anywhere seems to 
be a relatively recent innovation in cups. It used to be just IPP among 
other options, which seem to have disappeared now, but I was never able 
to get IPP to work with my Epson printer.


regards,
Steve


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DNF Upgrade from F38 to F39 Issues

2023-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    I used dnf system-upgrade to upgrade from F38 to F39. After the 
upgrade when I booted into gdm to login and start KDE, the machine hung 
on KDE startup into X11.
    Thinking it might be an nvidia UEFI enrolment issue with the F39 
nvidia drivers, I reset the machine and booted back into gdm.
    I then used ctrl+alt+F2 to start a terminal interface. In that 
terminal I went through the UEFI enrolment process but that said the 
drivers were already enrolled.
    I issued dmesg to see if there were any nvidia failure messages, of 
which there none, but I did notice there were initialisation and what 
looked like failure messages from Nouveau, but I don't understand why 
there would be an Nouveau messages at all when Nouveau is blacklisted in 
the kernel parameters in grub.
    I then uninstalled all the nvidia drivers that were present. I then 
used ctrl+alt+delete to reboot from the terminal. That process hung for 
1.5 minutes waiting for a job stop (I don't remember what it was waiting 
on), and, when the 1.5 minute timer finished it then hung waiting for 
XWayland to shut down. Why was it waiting for XWayland to shut down when 
I don't use Wayland, I only use X11?
    On reboot, I started up KDE under Nouveau, which doesn't work 
properly with my BENQ 4K monitor, it can't determine what the monitor 
is, so doesn't run in the right resolutions, although it does honour the 
display scaling specified when using the nvidia drivers (which do 
recognise the monitor and set things up properly).
    I reinstalled the nvidia drivers and a subsequent reboot then 
booted into KDE with any issues (which is where I'm sending this email 
from). Why did this freezing of the nvidia drivers happen, is it because 
the F39 nvidia drivers don't work properly with an update and have to be 
installed from scratch to work properly?
    Also, after reinstalling the nvidia drivers, at the gdm login 
screen the display manager selection options only showed "Gnome", "Gnome 
Classic" and "Plasma/X11", where are the options for all of those to 
swap them between Wayland and X11 if I want to, that were present in F38 
before the upgrade to F39?


regards,
Steve



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Re: Desktop scaling not working on F39 + X1 Carbon 3rd gen

2023-11-17 Thread Stephen Morris

On 16/11/23 15:35, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 15/11/2023 09:55, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 15/11/2023 04:42, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 14/11/23 19:34, Frederic Muller wrote:


Hi!

Upgraded from F38 and trying to get 150% scaling as 100% is too 
small and 200% too big. Both


|gsettings reset org.gnome.mutter experimental-features or 
gsettings set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features 
"['scale-monitor-framebuffer']" and logging out do nothing. It used 
to work a few years ago. Any idea how to fix this?|
|I'm still on F38, so not sure how F39 works, but if it is the same 
as F38, in the gnome system settings for setting up the scaling 
there is a fractional scaling option, which if set allows you to set 
scaling 150%.
I don't use Gnome though, I use KDE, where you can set the 150% 
scaling without having to activate any other option.


regards,
Steve
|

|Thank you. Fred |

Actually it was under F38. I thought the upgrade was completed but I 
was wrong. Now that the update is completed I am having the same issue.


And I followed your tips but couldn' t find any area in GNOME 
settings with any related option. I'm probably going to burn a USB 
stick with the live ISO and see if that works out of the box. As I 
mentioned previously this feature has worked on this machine for many 
years.


Thank you for the heads up, at least I feel no so lonely anymore ;-)

Fred


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Tried from the 'live CD' and it worked. So I guess I got something 
broken under F38, not fixed by upgrading and therefore I'll do a fresh 
install.


Thank you.

Fred


Hi Fred,
    A fresh install may not make any difference. With my 4K monitor a 
fresh install of F38 did not activate 150% scaling in the display 
settings, I had to use the slider to turn on fractional scaling to be 
able select 150% scaling from the scaling drop down. Without using the 
slider 150% scaling did not appear in the scaling dropdown.


regards,
Steve



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Re: Tip: default printer

2023-11-14 Thread Stephen Morris

On 8/11/23 09:02, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 5:54 PM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


One thing that is interesting, if I use KDE's system settings to
add a
printer, and I select the Epson ET3700 Series network printer entry
which uses IPP Anywhere, when I'm prompted for the driver I get
offered
two Epson categories (Epson and EPSON), the second category has the
driverless driver and the first category has all the cups supplied
drivers, of which there isn't one for the printer I have. I've had
the
printer for several years, but I guess it is still too new for
cups to
support.


https://openprinting.github.io/cups/ Says:

OpenPrinting CUPS

The current standards-based, open source printing system developed by 
OpenPrinting for Linux® and other Unix®-like operating systems. CUPS 
uses IPP Everywhere™ to support printing to local and network printers.


I doubt anyone will be working on legacy CUPS drivers for printers 
that support IPP/AirPrint/.

Hi George,
    I was pointing this out because I don't use the IPP Anywhere 
interface, and cups has never supplied drivers for my printer, I've had 
to always the Epson supplied driver to enable printing in Linux. This 
was just an observation with, when adding a printer, cups shows me two 
entries under the "Discovered Network Printer" section, one for IPP 
Anywhere and one for the "Driverless" option, where the IPP Anywhere 
shows two separate driver definitions for cups drivers and the 
driverless option, whereas the "Driverless" selection displays all 
drivers in the one list with the driverless driver listed first and all 
the cups drivers then listed in alphabetical order.


regards,
Steve



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Re: Desktop scaling not working on F39 + X1 Carbon 3rd gen

2023-11-14 Thread Stephen Morris

On 14/11/23 19:34, Frederic Muller wrote:


Hi!

Upgraded from F38 and trying to get 150% scaling as 100% is too small 
and 200% too big. Both


|gsettings reset org.gnome.mutter experimental-features or gsettings 
set org.gnome.mutter experimental-features 
"['scale-monitor-framebuffer']" and logging out do nothing. It used to 
work a few years ago. Any idea how to fix this?|
|I'm still on F38, so not sure how F39 works, but if it is the same as 
F38, in the gnome system settings for setting up the scaling there is a 
fractional scaling option, which if set allows you to set scaling 150%.
I don't use Gnome though, I use KDE, where you can set the 150% scaling 
without having to activate any other option.


regards,
Steve
|

|Thank you. Fred |

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Re: [Off List] Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-14 Thread Stephen Morris

On 15/11/23 06:36, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/14/2023 12:26 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:

What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you
out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs
another key to come back in.


You might want to consider nano; the most common commands are listed 
at the bottom of the window, including the one needed to get to the 
rest of them.
The one issue I've found with nano, which might be my lack of 
understanding of it, is you can't paste anything in that has been copied 
outside of nano, the paste listed at the bottom of the window does 
nothing in this scenario.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Tip: default printer

2023-11-07 Thread Stephen Morris

On 7/11/23 11:14, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/6/23 14:59, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 6/11/23 19:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

This is my keeper file on the default printer.

Hope this helps someone else.

-T

Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve?
Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with
no printer specified?    !!


On my system I didn't have any printers defined, so to test things I 
added my network printer which is an Epson ET3700.
Before I started, ~/.cups/lpoptions didn't exist and 
/etc/cups/lpoptions was empty.
To add my printer I went into the cups interface, as I always do, in 
firefox and under Administration I selected "Add Printer". That 
displayed all the print devices cups could see, which included "Epson 
ET3700 Series" and "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless" under "Network 
Printers". I selected "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless, and then in 
the Model selection on the next screen, I selected the "Driverless 
Driver" rather than the "IPP Everywhere Driver", then clicked on "Add 
Printer".
After defining the printer I checked ~/.cups/lpoptions and it still 
did not exist, and /etc/cups/lpoptions was still empty. Lpstat -p 
showed my printer only and lpstat -d said there was no system default.
Going into KDE's system settings Printer interface shows the printer 
I added in Cups with "Default Printer" not checked, and when I click 
on "Configure" and look at the printer properties it shows me the 
settings I set in cups as the default properties.
If I start Libreoffice Writer and look at file->Printer Properties it 
shows two entries for my printer, one with "Double Sided Printing" 
active, which I set in the default options in Cups, and one entry 
with "Double Sided Printing" turned off, and unfortunately both 
printer entries have the same name.
The double entry that Libreoffice Writer shows is similar to the 
issue I get under Windows. Under windows when I install the Epson 
printer driver and install my printer, the printer installation 
creates two printer definitions, an Epson ET3700 "Local" and an Epson 
ET3700 Network, where the "Local" entry has "Double Sided" printing 
active and the "Network" entry has "Double Sided" printing turned off 
and Administrator Disabled so that it can't be changed. Even though 
the printer is set up this way the "Local" definition still outputs 
to the network printer anyway.


regards,
Steve


Hi Steve,

This is exactly what I was seeing.

 I did not realize that
    ~/.cups/lpoptions, and
    /etc/cups/lpoptions

had to be set outside the WebUI (https://127.0.0.1:631).
Confused the heck (not my "actual" word) out of me.

The WebUI's default is server only.  For what use, I can not
fathom.

To see what the Server's default is, check /etc/cups/printers.conf
as root.

su root -c "less /etc/cups/printers.conf | grep -i DefaultPrinter"



I did a sudo cat /etc/cups/printers.conf and that has an entry for my 
printer only (no cups-pdf) and it does not have a DefaultPrinter entry, 
and my assumption is, as I only have one printer definition, by default 
that is the default printer.
One other thing I noticed is if you go into cups in your browser via 
localhost:631 and go into the printer definition, in the 
"Administration" dropdown there is an entry to set the default printer 
but the entry says "Set the Server Default", so cups is actually telling 
you that the default printer set in cups is the server default.
I suspect that when printing is done via cups, it is the cups server 
that is using the driver for the server defined printer on the server to 
do all the printer specific translations, rather than that being done on 
the client side (It has always been my interpretation that when using 
cups for printing that you are interfacing to a server and it is the 
server that is doing all the printing work, whereas if printing is being 
done via lpr then the environment where lpr is being invoked from is 
doing all the printing work). It has also always been my experience that 
if you set your printer up to use cups drivers, and cups is down for 
whatever reason, you can't do any printing.
One thing that is interesting, if I use KDE's system settings to add a 
printer, and I select the Epson ET3700 Series network printer entry 
which uses IPP Anywhere, when I'm prompted for the driver I get offered 
two Epson categories (Epson and EPSON), the second category has the 
driverless driver and the first category has all the cups supplied 
drivers, of which there isn't one for the printer I have. I've had the 
printer for several years, but I guess it is still too new for cups to 
support.


regards,
Steve




I reported the problem over on CUPS:
   CUPS UI (

Re: Tip: default printer

2023-11-06 Thread Stephen Morris

On 6/11/23 19:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

This is my keeper file on the default printer.

Hope this helps someone else.

-T

Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve?
Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with
no printer specified?    !!
On my system I didn't have any printers defined, so to test things I 
added my network printer which is an Epson ET3700.
Before I started, ~/.cups/lpoptions didn't exist and /etc/cups/lpoptions 
was empty.
To add my printer I went into the cups interface, as I always do, in 
firefox and under Administration I selected "Add Printer". That 
displayed all the print devices cups could see, which included "Epson 
ET3700 Series" and "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless" under "Network 
Printers". I selected "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless, and then in the 
Model selection on the next screen, I selected the "Driverless Driver" 
rather than the "IPP Everywhere Driver", then clicked on "Add Printer".
After defining the printer I checked ~/.cups/lpoptions and it still did 
not exist, and /etc/cups/lpoptions was still empty. Lpstat -p showed my 
printer only and lpstat -d said there was no system default.
Going into KDE's system settings Printer interface shows the printer I 
added in Cups with "Default Printer" not checked, and when I click on 
"Configure" and look at the printer properties it shows me the settings 
I set in cups as the default properties.
If I start Libreoffice Writer and look at file->Printer Properties it 
shows two entries for my printer, one with "Double Sided Printing" 
active, which I set in the default options in Cups, and one entry with 
"Double Sided Printing" turned off, and unfortunately both printer 
entries have the same name.
The double entry that Libreoffice Writer shows is similar to the issue I 
get under Windows. Under windows when I install the Epson printer driver 
and install my printer, the printer installation creates two printer 
definitions, an Epson ET3700 "Local" and an Epson ET3700 Network, where 
the "Local" entry has "Double Sided" printing active and the "Network" 
entry has "Double Sided" printing turned off and Administrator Disabled 
so that it can't be changed. Even though the printer is set up this way 
the "Local" definition still outputs to the network printer anyway.


regards,
Steve





CUPS: manually correct the default printer

Reference(s):
   https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Print_Settings_with_CUPS
   https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/818

CUPS Web UI (https://127.0.0.1:631) fails to update /etc/cups/lpoptions
to a new default printer.   Note that this is on purpose,  The Web UI's
default printer is the server's default.  Not the local (client)
computer's default.


The local computer's defaults are found in:
   user:
   ~/.cups/lpoptions

   global (if not user default):
   /etc/cups/lpoptions


Fix action:

First, list installed printers:
    $ lpstat -p
    printer Cups-PDF is idle.  ...
    printer HLL2300D ...
    printer HLL2300D_ManualTray ...

To set the system defualt:
    # vi /etc/cups/lpoptions
    Default Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above
    # systemctl restart cups

To set the user's default:
    $ lpoptions -d Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above

To double check:
    $ lpstat -d
    system default destination: Cups-PDF

Note: this is the local user default, not the system default.
reported under:
    lpstat gives incorrect wording for the default printer
    https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/819

Example files involved:
    System:
    # cat /etc/cups/lpoptions
    Default HLL2300D

    User:
    $ cat ~/.cups/lpoptions
    Default Cups-PDF
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Re: Web page doesn't display (Trouble with javascript?)

2023-11-06 Thread Stephen Morris

On 7/11/23 08:27, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Can anyone display this page:
https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2024Apr08Tgoogle.html
The text claims the page contains a map of the April 2024 eclipse, but 
no such thing appears on the screen.


System Info:
Firefox 119.0 (64-bit)
Operating System: Fedora Linux 38
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.110.0
Qt Version: 5.15.10
Kernel Version: 6.5.9-200.fc38.x86_64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4600
Manufacturer: ASUS

I'm using Firefox nightly V121 and when I access that page it tells me 
to use google maps I have to have Javascript turned on, but I can't see 
anything in the firefox configuration that obviously turns javascript on 
or off. I also at the moment don't have any extensions installed in 
firefox either, and the only two plugins I have are the H264 and 
widevine plugins.
I did a search on the net for javascript in firefox and found 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1253413. I checked 
about:config in my browser and javascript is enabled, so some of the 
settings suggested in the link might be causing an issue. For me I don't 
think the site data or cookies would be causing a problem as I have 
those cleared on exit from firefox, so loading the page you referenced 
should be starting with a clean slate.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Google Chrome Update Question

2023-11-01 Thread Stephen Morris

On 23/10/23 02:25, Tim Evans wrote:

On 10/21/23 20:12, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 11/10/23 21:59, Neal Becker wrote:



On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 7:46 PM Tim Evans  wrote:

    On 10/10/23 18:38, Tim Evans wrote:
    > Usually, dnf updates take care of updating Google Chrome.     
Lately, for
    > the past week or so, however, there's a big pink button in 
Chrome's

    > status bar labeled "Update," but dnf insists I have the latest
    version
    > (google-chrome-stable-115.0.5790.110-1.x86_64).
    >
    > If you click this button, it tells you it's unable to update
    Chrome and
    > asks if you want to re-install.
    >
    > Is this just a new idiot light that means nothing, or is there
    some sort
    > of conflict with update versions?

    OK, for whatever unknown reason,
    /etc/yum.repos.d/google-chrome.repo had
    the 'enabled' flag set to 0.  Setting it to 1 allowed dnf to update
    Chrome to version 118.0.5993.70--and the pink button is gone.

    I see the same thing on another similarly behaving system, with
    the mod
    date on the file as July 26. There is an 'rpmnew' version of that
    file
    (dated 2/3/2022) with the same flag set to 0, but with another
    line that
    says "skip_if_unavailable=True" This line is not present in the
    currently used file.


Also, don't forget that you have to restart chrome after updating or 
you'll continue to see the notification.
There is this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170839 
documenting a defect with the google-chrome F38 repositories, but the 
last entry in the bug specifies that the issue has been fixed, so the 
update issues reported here may have just been a temporary glitch.


Thanks.  After posting my last reply, this dawned on me:  If the 
chrome-specific repo was disabled (as I had discovered), and I was 
only a couple of releases behind, then I must've been getting recent 
releases via the main Fedora repo(s) up until shortly before my 
original post.
Sorry for the late response, I wasn't aware that google-chrome was in 
the fedora repositories, as the only way I've been able to get chrome 
was to installed the chrome specific repo. From the bug track above, 
there is an indication that the repo was disabled at a particular point 
in time, so you may have been getting updates from the chrome repo until 
the disabling happened.


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Steve



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Re: Google Chrome Update Question

2023-10-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 11/10/23 21:59, Neal Becker wrote:



On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 7:46 PM Tim Evans  wrote:

On 10/10/23 18:38, Tim Evans wrote:
> Usually, dnf updates take care of updating Google Chrome. 
Lately, for
> the past week or so, however, there's a big pink button in Chrome's
> status bar labeled "Update," but dnf insists I have the latest
version
> (google-chrome-stable-115.0.5790.110-1.x86_64).
>
> If you click this button, it tells you it's unable to update
Chrome and
> asks if you want to re-install.
>
> Is this just a new idiot light that means nothing, or is there
some sort
> of conflict with update versions?

OK, for whatever unknown reason,
/etc/yum.repos.d/google-chrome.repo had
the 'enabled' flag set to 0.  Setting it to 1 allowed dnf to update
Chrome to version 118.0.5993.70--and the pink button is gone.

I see the same thing on another similarly behaving system, with
the mod
date on the file as July 26. There is an 'rpmnew' version of that
file
(dated 2/3/2022) with the same flag set to 0, but with another
line that
says "skip_if_unavailable=True" This line is not present in the
currently used file.


Also, don't forget that you have to restart chrome after updating or 
you'll continue to see the notification.
There is this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170839 
documenting a defect with the google-chrome F38 repositories, but the 
last entry in the bug specifies that the issue has been fixed, so the 
update issues reported here may have just been a temporary glitch.


regards,
Steve



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Re: how to remove rhgb quiet from grub & make it permanent

2023-10-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 13/10/23 02:02, olivares33561 via users wrote:




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On Thursday, October 12th, 2023 at 9:44 AM, stan via users 
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 14:08:23 +
olivares33561 via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:


I will like to remove rhgb quiet from grub. I have checked out some


I don't know if this is the official way to do it, but, as root or
sudo, edit the file
/etc/default/grub
and remove the rhgb quiet from the kernel command line. On my system
it looks like this.
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
Once you have done that, do a
cd /boot/grub2
and run
grub2-mkconfig -o grub.cfg
Your system should now boot with rhgb and quiet turned off.
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Dear Sir,

Thank you.  This did the job.  Now will it be persistant across new kernel 
installations/upgrades?
There was one line in journal something like
/user-1000.journal corrupted and will be deleted and regenerated because of 
some failure?  that did not succeed before when grub line had rhgb quiet.
If you run the grub2-mkconfig process as outlined by Stan every time you 
get a kernel upgrade, it will turn that option off on all installed 
kernels. You may also want to turn off BLSCFG in /etc/default/grub as I 
found that option being on set up the grub menus in a form I didn't like.


regards,
Steve

   



Best Regards,


Antonio
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Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well

2023-10-21 Thread Stephen Morris

On 14/10/23 03:00, Michael Hennebry wrote:

Since my second to most recent post, I tried gnome with X11.
Got a useful error message: no H.264 decoder.
Now, with X11, videos can play videos.
Firefox can play videos with either wayland or X11.

I am using the Nightly upstream version of Firefox on X11 with KDE (I 
tend not to use Wayland) and I can play videos from youtube and Netflix 
without any issues. I did have issues playing both youtube and Netflix 
videos a while ago that were being indicated as firefox not being able 
to play protected content, which was resolved by installing the Widevine 
addon, the H264 addon is being indicated as being installed by default. 
I also have the play DRM protected content in Firefox's general settings 
turned on as well.
At the time I was having the issues playing videos in Firefox I was 
finding that Google Chrome was able to play them without any issues.
I am also using the nvidia proprietary drivers from rpmfusion as I have 
an nvidia geforce rtx 3080 graphics card. I have never had any opengl 
errors from playing videos in firefox (I've always used the nightly 
version though), although I have also always used the nvidia rpmfusion 
drivers (I've also played around with using the Fedora specific nvidia 
drivers from Negativo) as I have always used nvidia graphics cards.


regards,
Steve


I did a
sudo dnf install 'mesa-*'
It went through, but without apparent effect.

I also did a
sudo dnf install'*nvidia*', but got a whole lot of conflicting requests:
Error:
 Problem 1: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with 
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia

 provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from
 rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
  - conflicting requests
 Problem 2: package nvidia-settings-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts with nvidia-settings
 provided by nvidia-settings-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64 from
 rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
  - conflicting requests
 Problem 3: package 
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-cuda-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64

 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts
 with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda
 provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
  - conflicting requests
Problem 4: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts
 with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
 provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
  - package akmod-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-3.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
 requires nvidia-470xx-kmod-common >= 3:470.199.02,
 but none of the providers can be installed
  - package akmod-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
 requires nvidia-kmod-common >= 3:535.113.01,
 but none of the providers can be installed
  - conflicting requests
Problem 5: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts
 with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
 provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
  - package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-power-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
 requires xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx(x86-64) = 3:470.199.02,
 but none of the providers can be installed
  - package nvidia-xconfig-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
 requires xorg-x11-drv-nvidia >= 3:535.113.01,
 but none of the providers can be installed
  - conflicting requests
Problem 6: package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver conflicts
 with xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
 provided by xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
  - package akmod-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-3.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
 requires nvidia-470xx-kmod-common >= 3:470.199.02,
 but none of the providers can be installed
  - package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power-3:535.113.01-1.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
 requires xorg-x11-drv-nvidia(x86-64) = 3:535.113.01,
 but none of the providers can be installed
  - package kmod-nvidia-470xx-3:470.199.02-3.fc38.x86_64
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
 requires akmod-nvidia-470xx = 3:470.199.02-3.fc38,
 but none of the providers can be installed
  - conflicting requests

I added some line breaks for legibility.

On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote:


mesa is what provides opengl.

Best guess is:
mesa-dri-drivers, mesa-vdpau-drivers and mesa-va-drivers-freeworld
that have video drivers, but also some other mesa pieces that provide
opengl may need to be install (or installing the above 

Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-06 Thread Stephen Morris

On 6/10/23 08:27, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Fri, 2023-10-06 at 08:20 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 6/10/23 07:04, Roger Heflin wrote:

You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this:
mesa-va-drivers-freeworld

one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what
yours
looked like.

And replacing with freeworld it now looks much better and has a lot
more accelerators.

Hi Roger, just a silly question for my benefit, what information in
the
mediainfo output that Alex supplied, confirms that the video actually
is 4K?

Presumably these lines:

Width: 3 840 pixels
Height   : 1 608 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Thanks Patrick, I didn't see those lines when I looked, and I looked 
multiple times.


regards,
Steve



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Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk

2023-10-06 Thread Stephen Morris


On 6/10/23 13:12, Michael Hennebry wrote:

I burned the F38 workstation installer onto a DVD.
On booting it can find my home directory on the only hard disk.
When I tell the installer to install,
it claims it cannot find a hard drive.  Grrr.

The first time I got the message, I just rebooted.
On the second boot, I looked for my home directory and found it.
I even looked at some images, so I know it was atually reading files.
When I told it to install, no go.


To do the install you have to point the installer at a partition you 
have specified as the root (/) mount point for it to install to. As part 
of you can also point it at your /home partition and tell it that is the 
/home mount point. You may also have to create a 100MB partition for the 
uefi partition if you are installing on a uefi system.



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Re: 4k video playback on some videos makes entire system sluggish

2023-10-05 Thread Stephen Morris

On 6/10/23 07:04, Roger Heflin wrote:

You might try uninstalling mesa-va-drivers and replacing with this:
mesa-va-drivers-freeworld

one of my 2 machines was ok and a 2nd one looked closer to what yours
looked like.

And replacing with freeworld it now looks much better and has a lot
more accelerators.
Hi Roger, just a silly question for my benefit, what information in the 
mediainfo output that Alex supplied, confirms that the video actually is 4K?


regards,
Steve



On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 2:40 PM Alex  wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 3:38 PM Alex  wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 2:59 PM Roger Heflin  wrote:

what does vainfo show?  You may need to install it.   You are looking
for something like below, I believe the main10 is what is needed for
your video.

  VAProfileHEVCMain   : VAEntrypointVLD
  VAProfileHEVCMain10 : VAEntrypointVLD

You may need to then confirm that your given video card supports those decoders.


Thanks so much for your help. This all worked properly before I upgraded to 
fc38 some time ago.

$ vainfo The.Equalizer.mkv
Trying display: wayland
Trying display: x11
libva info: VA-API version 1.18.0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_18
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
vainfo: VA-API version: 1.18 (libva 2.18.2)
vainfo: Driver version: Mesa Gallium driver 23.1.8 for AMD Radeon RX 570 Series 
(polaris10, LLVM 16.0.6, DRM 3.54, 6.5.5-200.fc38.x86_64)
vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints
   VAProfileMPEG2Simple: VAEntrypointVLD
   VAProfileMPEG2Main  : VAEntrypointVLD
   VAProfileJPEGBaseline   : VAEntrypointVLD
   VAProfileNone   : VAEntrypointVideoProc


Perhaps I should have also included these details.

$ ls -l /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
-rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 13260600 Sep 19 20:00 
/usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so

$ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
mesa-va-drivers-23.1.8-1.fc38.x86_64

Thanks,
Alex

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Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 4/10/23 09:05, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/3/23 15:00, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 4/10/23 03:33, Lester Petrie wrote:

On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote:
In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of entries 
is Indexing.


The second entry is Message Store Type for new accounts: which is 
File per folder(mbox)


This can be set to File per message (maildir)


In Edit->Account Settings there is a configuration page for "Local 
Folders" where under "Message Storage" you can set the "Message Store 
Type" to either "Mbox" or "Maildir", which a different specification 
to the same thing under "Server Settings" which as I understand it 
applies to the Inbox.
As far as I am aware both of these configurations are available 
irrespective of whether you are using POP3 or IMAP.
Also from memory I think you can change the "Local Folders" 
specification and Thunderbird will reformat the Local Folders on the 
fly. I have swapped backwards and forwards between these two 
specifications particularly when Thunderbird had the issue of Cross 
Linking emails.


The "Local Folders" setting is for folders outside of any network 
account, but it also can't be changed unless you change that setting I 
gave.
Just further to my previous email, I have checked my Thunderbird 
configuration and the setting you mentioned is active without me having 
touched it, so it looks like in the upstream Daily version of 
Thunderbird it is active by default.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 4/10/23 09:05, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/3/23 15:00, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 4/10/23 03:33, Lester Petrie wrote:

On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote:
In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of entries 
is Indexing.


The second entry is Message Store Type for new accounts: which is 
File per folder(mbox)


This can be set to File per message (maildir)


In Edit->Account Settings there is a configuration page for "Local 
Folders" where under "Message Storage" you can set the "Message Store 
Type" to either "Mbox" or "Maildir", which a different specification 
to the same thing under "Server Settings" which as I understand it 
applies to the Inbox.
As far as I am aware both of these configurations are available 
irrespective of whether you are using POP3 or IMAP.
Also from memory I think you can change the "Local Folders" 
specification and Thunderbird will reformat the Local Folders on the 
fly. I have swapped backwards and forwards between these two 
specifications particularly when Thunderbird had the issue of Cross 
Linking emails.


The "Local Folders" setting is for folders outside of any network 
account, but it also can't be changed unless you change that setting I 
gave.
That's interesting, I thought I had changed the configuration and had 
Thunderbird reformat the folders without touching that setting that you 
gave because I didn't know that setting existed until now.
I'm also using the upstream version of Thunderbird, and always have 
done, so maybe that setting is on by default in the upstream version?



regards,
Steve


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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 4/10/23 09:07, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 28/9/23 20:32, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2023-09-28 at 13:14 +0930, Tim via users wrote:

Hi,

Full-quoted reply, for once, but for a special reason...  It was
still
mangled this time, I've left the whole thing below so you can see
what
I saw between this reply and my signature.  It starts off with an
error
message, and the message has character encoding (and/or decoding)
problems (I see a few =20 sequences in my reader).

Same here. Also using Evolution.
In Thunderbird V120, I see the same thing a Tim does from Adam's 
emails except that Thunderbird doesn't throw and error.
Just further to this, when viewing the mail Thunderbird V120 displays a 
message above the mail window that says "Only a subset of this message 
was digitally signed using OpenPGP. If you click the verify button, the 
unprotected parts will be hidden, and the status of the digital 
signature will be shown".
Having clicked "verify" it displays the message "Reminder: The message 
shown below is only a subset of the original message", but as far as I 
can see nothing has changed and it still has the two attachments. When I 
click on the "OpenPGP Show Message Security" button it displays two 
messages:

*Invalid Digital Signature
*This message contains a digital signature, but a technical error was 
detected. Either the message has been corrupted, or the message has been 
modified by someone else.

*Message is not Encrypted
*This message was not encrypted before it was sent. Information sent 
over the internet without encryption can be seen by other people while 
in transit.



regards,
Steve



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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 28/9/23 20:32, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2023-09-28 at 13:14 +0930, Tim via users wrote:

Hi,

Full-quoted reply, for once, but for a special reason...  It was
still
mangled this time, I've left the whole thing below so you can see
what
I saw between this reply and my signature.  It starts off with an
error
message, and the message has character encoding (and/or decoding)
problems (I see a few =20 sequences in my reader).

Same here. Also using Evolution.
In Thunderbird V120, I see the same thing a Tim does from Adam's emails 
except that Thunderbird doesn't throw and error.


regards,
Steve



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Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 4/10/23 03:33, Lester Petrie wrote:

On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote:
In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of entries is 
Indexing.


The second entry is Message Store Type for new accounts: which is 
File per folder(mbox)


This can be set to File per message (maildir)


In Edit->Account Settings there is a configuration page for "Local 
Folders" where under "Message Storage" you can set the "Message Store 
Type" to either "Mbox" or "Maildir", which a different specification to 
the same thing under "Server Settings" which as I understand it applies 
to the Inbox.
As far as I am aware both of these configurations are available 
irrespective of whether you are using POP3 or IMAP.
Also from memory I think you can change the "Local Folders" 
specification and Thunderbird will reformat the Local Folders on the 
fly. I have swapped backwards and forwards between these two 
specifications particularly when Thunderbird had the issue of Cross 
Linking emails.


regards,
Steve



Oh, nice!  I didn't realize how far down that preferences page went.
Too bad it requires redoing the account, but it might be worth it.


After a bunch of searching, I discovered that you don't have to redo 
the account.  There's a secret setting that lets you migrate the data:

mail.store_conversion_enabled
If you set that to true, it will let you change the message store 
type in the server settings.

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Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains

2023-10-03 Thread Stephen Morris

On 30/9/23 14:12, Robert McBroom via users wrote:


In the past I would just enter "users" in the "To " space and would 
get the list entry users@lists.fedoraproject.org. Somehow that now 
gets attached to send to a person instead of the list. Have to 
explicitly type in the list address. Is there a fix?


Thunderbird keeps continually telling me it wants to compact the mails 
storage for what is a trivial amount of space, Is there a way to make 
it use a reasonable size to do the prompt?


In Edit->Settings->General->Disk Space there is a check box to specify 
that you want folders compacted and the amount of space to be saved 
before compacting will happen. As a sub-entry to this there is a 
checkbox for specifying that you want to be prompted each time.


I set the font size to small but it always reverts to medium, where 
would a permanent setting be located?


Also in Edit->Settings->General->Fonts & Colours is a setting to specify 
the default font and the font size. I would assume this is what is used 
for plain text mails and is used for html mails if the html doesn't 
specify the font and size to use, or the font the html specifies doesn't 
exist on your system.
Also in Edit->Settings->Composition->HTML Style is a specification for 
the font and font size for composing html mails. In my configuration it 
is set to "Variable Width" and "Medium". Based on this if someone sends 
a mail in html format with this setting then I assume that is how it 
will display regardless of what you have set in "Fonts & Colours". There 
is also a checkbox to specify that you want to use Paragraph format 
instead of Body Text by default when composing a mail, I don't have this 
checked as I don't like "Paragraph Format" inserting a blank line when I 
hit "Enter" when writing an email.


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Re: Current Stable Fedora Version?

2023-09-27 Thread Stephen Morris

On 25/9/23 20:29, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 7:55 PM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


Hi,
 I am currently on F38, but the other day when I was searching
for
how to do something (which I've forgotten what it was) I found
instructions for F39 and F40. So I'm now curious as to what is the
current stable version of Fedora?


38.  For 39, see: 
<https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-39/f-39-all-tasks.html> which

has:

Current Final Target date
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/lifecycle/#_release_dates
Tue 2023-10-17  Tue 2023-10-17  



Thanks George.

regards,
Steve





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Re: Current Stable Fedora Version?

2023-09-27 Thread Stephen Morris

On 25/9/23 09:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/24/23 15:54, Stephen Morris wrote:
 I am currently on F38, but the other day when I was searching 
for how to do something (which I've forgotten what it was) I found 
instructions for F39 and F40. So I'm now curious as to what is the 
current stable version of Fedora?


rpmfusion maybe?
38 is stable, 39 is currently beta, and 40 is rawhide.

Thanks Samuel.

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Current Stable Fedora Version?

2023-09-24 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    I am currently on F38, but the other day when I was searching for 
how to do something (which I've forgotten what it was) I found 
instructions for F39 and F40. So I'm now curious as to what is the 
current stable version of Fedora?


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Re: Change Next DNF Mirror

2023-09-15 Thread Stephen Morris

On 13/9/23 04:51, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/12/23 01:14, Stephen Morris wrote:
 How do I change the mirror that DNF is going to try to use for a 
particular repository so I can avoid the following messages, which 
have been occurring for the last two days?


Errors during downloading metadata for repository 'updates':
  - Curl error (23): Failed writing received data to disk/application 
for 
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/38/Everything/x86_64/repodata/8e2eff8c9230bbe3551e671c8a009bd452f2259d6bd1474043e8

a553bc17-primary.xml.zck [Failure writing output to destination]
  - Curl error (23): Failed writing received data to disk/application 
for 
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/38/Everything/x86_64/repodata/c7fc54d9b041ff20659eca58092c50cde2f4a589eaca20112b838095


Do other mirrors work?  That looks like a local error on your system.  
I don't see how that would be anything to do with the mirror.  Is your 
disk full?
I don't know if other mirrors work as dnf terminates when it gets those 
errors.

My disk isn't full, I have over 2TB of free space on my root disk.
Due to pc issues I've had to reinstall all my OS's, so this issue has 
gone away atm, but I now have other issues.


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Steve


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Change Next DNF Mirror

2023-09-12 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    How do I change the mirror that DNF is going to try to use for a 
particular repository so I can avoid the following messages, which have 
been occurring for the last two days?


Fedora 38 - x86_64 - Updates 
5.1 kB/s | 4.9 kB 00:00
Fedora 38 - x86_64 - Updates 
1.1 MB/s | 2.2 MB 00:02

Errors during downloading metadata for repository 'updates':
 - Curl error (23): Failed writing received data to disk/application 
for 
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/38/Everything/x86_64/repodata/8e2eff8c9230bbe3551e671c8a009bd452f2259d6bd1474043e8

a553bc17-primary.xml.zck [Failure writing output to destination]
 - Curl error (23): Failed writing received data to disk/application 
for 
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/38/Everything/x86_64/repodata/c7fc54d9b041ff20659eca58092c50cde2f4a589eaca20112b838095

7a205f2e-filelists.xml.zck [Failure writing output to destination]
Error: Failed to download metadata for repo 'updates': Yum repo 
downloading error: Downloading error(s): 
repodata/8e2eff8c9230bbe3551e671c8a009bd452f2259d6bd1474043e8a553bc17-primary.xml.zck 
- Download fai
led: Curl error (23): Failed writing received data to disk/application 
for 
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/38/Everything/x86_64/repodata/8e2eff8c9230bbe3551e671c8a009bd452f2259d6bd1474043e
8a553bc17-primary.xml.zck [Failure writing output to destination]; 
repodata/c7fc54d9b041ff20659eca58092c50cde2f4a589eaca20112b8380957a205f2e-filelists.xml.zck 
- Download failed: Curl error (23): Failed writing
received data to disk/application for 
http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/38/Everything/x86_64/repodata/c7fc54d9b041ff20659eca58092c50cde2f4a589eaca20112b8380957a205f2e-filelists.xml.zck 
[Failure

writing output to destination]

regards,
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Re: TPM Error on Warm Boot From F38

2023-08-30 Thread Stephen Morris

On 30/8/23 23:12, stan via users wrote:

On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:32:22 +1000
Stephen Morris  wrote:
  

The bios is set to boot off my ssd drive, which is the first drive
plugged into the motherboard, which is the device that Fedora sees as
hd2.

I did a system update yesterday, which upgraded the kernel to 6.4.12
and also updated grub, and then updated the grub menus via
grub2-mkconfig as I always do, and that has not made any difference
to the issue. I have grub configured to build sub-menus for all the
kernel entries as well as showing the latest kernel in the main menu,
so that I have all the Fedora kernels and Ubuntu kernels in
sub-menus. What I have now found is that if I open up a sub-menu,
that is when the tpm error occurs, and since the grub update it is
now producing an extra error telling me to load a kernel first (what
I don't understand is that message seems to be coming from an I386
sub-folder but my environment is 64 bit, or does that mean that
somehow or other grub has reverted to 32 bit?).
I've also mentioned in another thread, that if when I get the tpm
errors I edit the grub menu entry and change all occurrences of hd2
to hd0, even though it continues to display the tpm errors it
successfully boots into F38. It seems as though at the moment it
boots normally if I select a main menu entry to boot from, but only
if the tpm error hasn't already occurred. If the tpm error has
occurred none of the menu entries will boot, which includes the
Chainloader entry for Windows.

Having started my machine from a cold start, when the grub menu's
were displayed, I went to the grub command line and issued the LS
command to list all devices, that showed my boot device as hd0
(hd0,gpt1 - hd0,gpt9), and then when I exited from the command line,
and selected the menu entry for the latest Fedora kernel, which
specified to boot from hd2,gpt7 (this is the fedora UEFI partition),
it successfully booted into Fedora.
How is this possible when the grub command line is indicating that
grub is seeing the devices differently? What I might add to this is
that the way the grub command line is showing the devices is the way
I would expect them to be shown given the way the devices are
physically connected to the motherboard.

I understand what you are asking, and it is certainly a conundrum, but
I have no insight to offer.  Maybe open a bugzilla against grub2.  I
don't think it is the problem, but the people who maintain grub2
probably have a good understanding of this part of the boot process, and
might be able to point to the real culprit.

Thanks Stan, I'll do that.

regards,
Steve


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Re: How do I install the rescue kernel for fc38?

2023-08-30 Thread Stephen Morris

On 30/8/23 09:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 8/29/23 10:41, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:
I've found that removing the rescue files from /boot and then doing a 
dnf reinstall kernel-core will do

it.

Did just run it to make sure, paste has wrapping, but hopefully one 
can follow.


# cd /boot
# ls -l*rescue*
-rw---. 1 root root 118033857 Jun  5 01:53
initramfs-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e.img
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14332776 Jun  5 01:51
vmlinuz-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e

# rm*rescue*
rm: remove regular file 
'initramfs-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e.img'? y
rm: remove regular file 
'vmlinuz-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e'? y


# dnf reinstall kernel-core
Last metadata expiration check: 0:27:24 ago on Wed 30 Aug 2023 
03:05:33 AM ChST.

Dependencies resolved.
===

  Package  Architecture 
Version   Repository    Size

===

Reinstalling:
  kernel-core  x86_64 
6.4.12-100.fc37   updates   15 M


Transaction Summary
===


Total download size: 15 M
Installed size: 65 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64.rpm 3.4 MB/s |  15 MB 00:04
--- 


Total 2.7 MB/s |  15 MB 00:05
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
   Preparing : 1/1
   Reinstalling : kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64 1/2
   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64 1/2
   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64 2/2
   Cleanup  : kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64 2/2
   Running scriptlet: kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64 2/2
   Verifying    : kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64 1/2
   Verifying    : kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64 2/2

Reinstalled:
   kernel-core-6.4.12-100.fc37.x86_64

Complete!

Takes some time to run, but afterwards.
# ls -l*rescue*
-rw---. 1 root root 123671666 Aug 30 03:35
initramfs-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e.img
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  14384360 Aug 30 03:34
vmlinuz-0-rescue-189711f94e78436d9618b891a8fce70e



Hi Michael,

Worked perfectly.  Excellent directions!

https://imgur.com/lgwFazr.png
If you install the following statement into /etc/default/grub, and 
remake the grub menus either with grubby (maybe) or definitely with 
grub2-mkconfig, the menu build process it add a rescue entry into the 
grub menus for all kernels you have installed.


GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="false"

regards,
Steve



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Re: TPM Error on Warm Boot From F38

2023-08-29 Thread Stephen Morris

On 30/8/23 01:54, stan via users wrote:

On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:08:59 +1000
Stephen Morris  wrote:


Having done a warm boot and gotten the tpm error, I opened the grub
console and issued the ls subcommand which showed that what the
system sees as hd2 on a normal boot, when the tpm error occurs
"grub/system" is seeing that same drive as hd0.
Hence it sees (hd0,gpt1) through (hd0,gp9) and for hd1 through hd4 it
only sees gpt1, which matches the ssd drive and the four hard disks
which only 1 partition each.
What I don't understand is when the error occurs, why grub is seeing

 ^ not?

the physical drives in the order that I would expect them go be given
the way they are physically plugged into the motherboard. And more
importantly, what component update is causing this issue?

Was grub updated?

The one thing I haven't tried yet is for a normal boot, booting off
an older kernel to see if it gets the issue, and if not, the issue is
potentially the current kernel?

Yes that would be a good test.  There have been a lot of changes to the
fedora kernel SPEC file to clean it up, and streamline it.  It isn't
impossible that you are seeing a corner case side effect of that,
though unlikely.


regards,
Steve


To answer Stan's question from earlier, I've had lots of warm start
reboots since updating the bios and adding in the keys for the
nvidia drivers.
Trying to identify which package may be causing the issue might be
problematic, as I was on holidays for 6 weeks and did an update
when I got back, which updated around 350 packages.
I'll check the grub console when I reboot my system.
One other thing I forgot to mention, there is also an entry in the
menu to boot into a UEFI shell, and when I try to boot into that it
also gets the tpm errors.

Just as an off-topic question, hd2 is my solid state drive
containing windows drive C, the UEFI partitions for Windows, F38
and Ubuntu, and the F38 and Ubuntu /boot partitions. That drive is
plugged into the first physical port on the motherboard, so why
does F38 not see it as hd0? The two drives it sees as hd0 and hd1
are plugged into ports 3 - 6 (I've got 4 3 TB hard drives).

I don't have an answer, but I wonder if there is an obscure setting in
the bios that is responsible.  What is the boot order set to?
The bios is set to boot off my ssd drive, which is the first drive 
plugged into the motherboard, which is the device that Fedora sees as hd2.


I did a system update yesterday, which upgraded the kernel to 6.4.12 and 
also updated grub, and then updated the grub menus via grub2-mkconfig as 
I always do, and that has not made any difference to the issue.
I have grub configured to build sub-menus for all the kernel entries as 
well as showing the latest kernel in the main menu, so that I have all 
the Fedora kernels and Ubuntu kernels in sub-menus. What I have now 
found is that if I open up a sub-menu, that is when the tpm error 
occurs, and since the grub update it is now producing an extra error 
telling me to load a kernel first (what I don't understand is that 
message seems to be coming from an I386 sub-folder but my environment is 
64 bit, or does that mean that somehow or other grub has reverted to 32 
bit?).
I've also mentioned in another thread, that if when I get the tpm errors 
I edit the grub menu entry and change all occurrences of hd2 to hd0, 
even though it continues to display the tpm errors it successfully boots 
into F38. It seems as though at the moment it boots normally if I select 
a main menu entry to boot from, but only if the tpm error hasn't already 
occurred. If the tpm error has occurred none of the menu entries will 
boot, which includes the Chainloader entry for Windows.


Having started my machine from a cold start, when the grub menu's were 
displayed, I went to the grub command line and issued the LS command to 
list all devices, that showed my boot device as hd0 (hd0,gpt1 - 
hd0,gpt9), and then when I exited from the command line, and selected 
the menu entry for the latest Fedora kernel, which specified to boot 
from hd2,gpt7 (this is the fedora UEFI partition), it successfully 
booted into Fedora.
How is this possible when the grub command line is indicating that grub 
is seeing the devices differently? What I might add to this is that the 
way the grub command line is showing the devices is the way I would 
expect them to be shown given the way the devices are physically 
connected to the motherboard.


regards,
Steve


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Re: TPM Error on Warm Boot From F38

2023-08-29 Thread Stephen Morris

On 29/8/23 08:43, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 28/8/23 10:55, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 8/26/23 17:53, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
 Since the last system update I have been getting TPM errors on 
every entry in my grub menu when I do a warm restart from F38, and 
this includes the menu entry for the kernel I used to boot into F38.

 I am getting multiple occurrences of the following message:
         error: ../../grub-core/commands/efi/tpm.c:150:unknown 
TPM error.


 I am also getting the message:
         error: ../../grub-core/net/net.c:1552:disk 'hd2,gpt7' 
not found.


 The second message doesn't make sense as that is the device 
that contains F38 that I had booted into before doing the restart, 
and the device I've booted into to send this email.


Those errors do suggest an issue with the UEFI BIOS.

If you open the grub console instead of trying to boot an entry, what 
happens when you try to look at the drive.  Can you see it? What 
partitions does it show?
If when the tpm error occurs, I edit the grub menu entry and change all 
occurrences of hd2 to hd0, even though the tpm error still occur, I can 
boot into any one of the kernel entries, but a subsequent warm boot 
still gets the tpm errors.
Hence the issue appears to not be kernel related, but may be a grub 
issue. I'll try rebuilding the grub menus to see if that makes any 
difference.


regards,
Steve

To answer Stan's question from earlier, I've had lots of warm start 
reboots since updating the bios and adding in the keys for the nvidia 
drivers.
Trying to identify which package may be causing the issue might be 
problematic, as I was on holidays for 6 weeks and did an update when I 
got back, which updated around 350 packages.

I'll check the grub console when I reboot my system.
One other thing I forgot to mention, there is also an entry in the 
menu to boot into a UEFI shell, and when I try to boot into that it 
also gets the tpm errors.


Just as an off-topic question, hd2 is my solid state drive containing 
windows drive C, the UEFI partitions for Windows, F38 and Ubuntu, and 
the F38 and Ubuntu /boot partitions. That drive is plugged into the 
first physical port on the motherboard, so why does F38 not see it as 
hd0? The two drives it sees as hd0 and hd1 are plugged into ports 3 - 
6 (I've got 4 3 TB hard drives).


regards,
Steve


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Re: TPM Error on Warm Boot From F38

2023-08-29 Thread Stephen Morris

On 29/8/23 08:43, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 28/8/23 10:55, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 8/26/23 17:53, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
 Since the last system update I have been getting TPM errors on 
every entry in my grub menu when I do a warm restart from F38, and 
this includes the menu entry for the kernel I used to boot into F38.

 I am getting multiple occurrences of the following message:
         error: ../../grub-core/commands/efi/tpm.c:150:unknown 
TPM error.


 I am also getting the message:
         error: ../../grub-core/net/net.c:1552:disk 'hd2,gpt7' 
not found.


 The second message doesn't make sense as that is the device 
that contains F38 that I had booted into before doing the restart, 
and the device I've booted into to send this email.


Those errors do suggest an issue with the UEFI BIOS.

If you open the grub console instead of trying to boot an entry, what 
happens when you try to look at the drive.  Can you see it? What 
partitions does it show?
Having done a warm boot and gotten the tpm error, I opened the grub 
console and issued the ls subcommand which showed that what the system 
sees as hd2 on a normal boot, when the tpm error occurs "grub/system" is 
seeing that same drive as hd0.
Hence it sees (hd0,gpt1) through (hd0,gp9) and for hd1 through hd4 it 
only sees gpt1, which matches the ssd drive and the four hard disks 
which only 1 partition each.
What I don't understand is when the error occurs, why grub is seeing the 
physical drives in the order that I would expect them go be given the 
way they are physically plugged into the motherboard. And more 
importantly, what component update is causing this issue?
The one thing I haven't tried yet is for a normal boot, booting off an 
older kernel to see if it gets the issue, and if not, the issue is 
potentially the current kernel?


regards,
Steve

To answer Stan's question from earlier, I've had lots of warm start 
reboots since updating the bios and adding in the keys for the nvidia 
drivers.
Trying to identify which package may be causing the issue might be 
problematic, as I was on holidays for 6 weeks and did an update when I 
got back, which updated around 350 packages.

I'll check the grub console when I reboot my system.
One other thing I forgot to mention, there is also an entry in the 
menu to boot into a UEFI shell, and when I try to boot into that it 
also gets the tpm errors.


Just as an off-topic question, hd2 is my solid state drive containing 
windows drive C, the UEFI partitions for Windows, F38 and Ubuntu, and 
the F38 and Ubuntu /boot partitions. That drive is plugged into the 
first physical port on the motherboard, so why does F38 not see it as 
hd0? The two drives it sees as hd0 and hd1 are plugged into ports 3 - 
6 (I've got 4 3 TB hard drives).


regards,
Steve


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Re: Too many Kernels at boot

2023-08-28 Thread Stephen Morris

On 29/8/23 01:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:16 AM Roger Heflin  wrote:

Possible ways, are if the /boot was not mounted when a prior kernel
removal was done, or if something else was mounted over boot when that
kernel removal was done.

Not removing the last kernel during dnf-sysytem-upgrade is by design.

You have to manually remove the old kernel(s) from previous versions of Fedora.
My experience with this is you don't have to, new kernel installs 
subsequent to the dnf-system-upgrade remove the oldest kernel relative 
to the install limit irrespective of whether that kernel is the for the 
current OS or the previous OS. For example, I have an install limit of 
5, and I used dnf-system-upgrade to upgrade from F37 to F38, and 
currently I don't have any F37 kernels in /boot because the dnf installs 
of the F38 kernels auto-removed the F37 kernels each time.


regards,
Steve



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Re: TPM Error on Warm Boot From F38

2023-08-28 Thread Stephen Morris

On 28/8/23 10:55, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 8/26/23 17:53, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
 Since the last system update I have been getting TPM errors on 
every entry in my grub menu when I do a warm restart from F38, and 
this includes the menu entry for the kernel I used to boot into F38.

 I am getting multiple occurrences of the following message:
         error: ../../grub-core/commands/efi/tpm.c:150:unknown 
TPM error.


 I am also getting the message:
         error: ../../grub-core/net/net.c:1552:disk 'hd2,gpt7' 
not found.


 The second message doesn't make sense as that is the device that 
contains F38 that I had booted into before doing the restart, and the 
device I've booted into to send this email.


Those errors do suggest an issue with the UEFI BIOS.

If you open the grub console instead of trying to boot an entry, what 
happens when you try to look at the drive.  Can you see it? What 
partitions does it show?
To answer Stan's question from earlier, I've had lots of warm start 
reboots since updating the bios and adding in the keys for the nvidia 
drivers.
Trying to identify which package may be causing the issue might be 
problematic, as I was on holidays for 6 weeks and did an update when I 
got back, which updated around 350 packages.

I'll check the grub console when I reboot my system.
One other thing I forgot to mention, there is also an entry in the menu 
to boot into a UEFI shell, and when I try to boot into that it also gets 
the tpm errors.


Just as an off-topic question, hd2 is my solid state drive containing 
windows drive C, the UEFI partitions for Windows, F38 and Ubuntu, and 
the F38 and Ubuntu /boot partitions. That drive is plugged into the 
first physical port on the motherboard, so why does F38 not see it as 
hd0? The two drives it sees as hd0 and hd1 are plugged into ports 3 - 6 
(I've got 4 3 TB hard drives).


regards,
Steve


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TPM Error on Warm Boot From F38

2023-08-26 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    Since the last system update I have been getting TPM errors on 
every entry in my grub menu when I do a warm restart from F38, and this 
includes the menu entry for the kernel I used to boot into F38.

    I am getting multiple occurrences of the following message:
            error: ../../grub-core/commands/efi/tpm.c:150:unknown TPM 
error.


    I am also getting the message:
            error: ../../grub-core/net/net.c:1552:disk 'hd2,gpt7' not 
found.


    The second message doesn't make sense as that is the device that 
contains F38 that I had booted into before doing the restart, and the 
device I've booted into to send this email.


    I did do a bios firmware update about 6 weeks ago and had to update 
the efi keys so that I could boot into the nvidia drivers in F38, but I 
would have thought that if that was causing a problem it would have 
surfaced before now.


    When I get these errors, if I do a hard reset, by pressing the 
reset button on the front of the PC, then I can boot into any entry in 
the grub menu without issue. These errors prevent me from booting back 
into F38, Ubuntu and Windows.


    Can anyone suggest what I need to look at to try to determine why 
this error is occurring?


regards,
Steve



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Re: Nvidia Driver Turned Off?

2023-06-30 Thread Stephen Morris



On 28/6/23 20:33, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:45:51 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote:


On 26/6/23 20:17, Barry wrote:

Maybe there is user mode code that was upgraded that caused the issue?

Thanks Barry, that could have been the case but I'm not aware of any
component like that, but that doesn't mean there isn't.

As I said, in 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/6C74V5VVPE4EX5MESHTJCIPPYX5V43J4/

   During the upgrade, the Xorg nvidia drivers may have been updated. Example:

   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
   /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglxserver_nvidia.so

This is user mode code yes.
Does this mean that these drivers are replaced and accessed on the fly 
but the associated kernel modules do not become active until after a reboot?
If that is the case, and that mismatch is causing the browser html 5 
game to think hardware acceleration is not available, how does anything 
that requires hardware acceleration to function properly ever work after 
an update?


regards,
Steve







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Re: Nvidia Driver Turned Off?

2023-06-28 Thread Stephen Morris

On 26/6/23 20:17, Barry wrote:



On 26 Jun 2023, at 09:08, Stephen Morris  wrote:

I was just expecting the kmod/akmod nvidia drivers the system was using when I 
did the upgrade would still be being used until I rebooted, but that seemed to 
not be the case.

The upgrade does not do anything to the already loaded kernel modules.
You must reboot to be able to use the new drivers.
Until then the system uses the old, already loaded, drivers.

Maybe there is user mode code that was upgraded that caused the issue?

Barry

Thanks Barry, that could have been the case but I'm not aware of any 
component like that, but that doesn't mean there isn't.


regards,
Steve



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Re: Nvidia Driver Turned Off?

2023-06-26 Thread Stephen Morris

On 26/6/23 03:47, Barry Scott wrote:


On 25/06/2023 13:20, George N. White III wrote:
You should check the version of the nvidea drivers you are currently 
using.
If you don't want to wait 5 minutes there are ways to determine that 
the installation

has finished, e.g, using journalctl.


The way I use to figure out its safe to reboot is to check for an 
running jobs using:


    systemctl list-jobs

That will show the akmods service running after you do the dnf update.

Once list-jobs is empty you can reboot.

I have that scripted into into code I use to update and reboot my 
fedora machines.


Barry
Thankyou for the responses everyone. I'm using the kmod and akmod nvidia 
drivers from the rpmfusion repositories and I didn't do a reboot after 
the upgrade, I accessed an email containing a link into one of the games 
I play through firefox, but it would not run because it could believed 
hardware acceleration was disabled, and I know hardware acceleration for 
this game doesn't work with the nouveau drivers.
I was just expecting the kmod/akmod nvidia drivers the system was using 
when I did the upgrade would still be being used until I rebooted, but 
that seemed to not be the case.


regards,
Steve



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Nvidia Driver Turned Off?

2023-06-25 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    When we issue the command "sudo dnf upgrade" and it updates the 
nvidia drivers, does the update of those drivers remove them from memory 
and load the nouveau drivers?
    I'm trying to understand why after doing the update a html 5 game 
that requires hardware acceleration to run complained that hardware 
acceleration was needed even though the browser was configured to use 
hardware acceleration if available, but after a reboot the game then ran 
fine in the browser.


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Re: [Partially Solved] Re: GRUB Issue? Console Fonts and messages?

2023-06-19 Thread Stephen Morris



On 19/6/23 10:10, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 12:56:54PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:


I made some changes to /etc/default/grub, and here is what my current
version looks like:
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet"


This last line seems to be more or less switching off boot
messages. You sure you want that? See

https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-lpic1-101-2/

" ... erase the words 'quiet', then 'rhgb'. This will stop the Red Hat
Graphical Boot screen that fedora normally display during boot and
also stop suppressing many of the messages that are normally
generated."


GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="gfxterm"


gfxterm: does that result in small fonts boot messages?
Upstream disabled gfxterm when resolving a security issue in grub. The 
resolvers of the security issue said they were disabling it, and if the 
grub maintainers wanted it enabled they could do it themselves. I 
haven't checked recently if it has been enabled again.


regards,
Steve



GRUB_FONT="/boot/grub2/fonts/RedHatMono-Medium32.pf2"


I'd remove the line above alltogether in the boot command line and see
what happens .. more on that later ..




Please note the last two lines; one specifies the path to the font;
the other is changed from
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"


As you remember the value in the last line above is what I have in my
grub file, and not 'gfxterm'.

I suspect with your current setup you're making things more
complicated than necessary. You already wrote that you have now
readable fonts on the console on a running system - so maybe turning
on verbose boot messages by removing "rghb quiet" plus disabling
graphical boot by ordering "GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"" will help
giving you decent readable boot messages. And I suspect that without
setting up specific fonts in grub might trigger it to read
'/etc/vconsole.conf' ...

The IBM page above seems to instruct how to change boot parameters
for the current boot only:

"When you see the GRUB2 menu, you can edit the entry that you want to
modify by selecting it and then pressing e."

and thus - I think - not change your standard boot setup for the
following bootups ... So this approach seems to give a nice
environment to test boot parameters before writing them down
permanently into grub files ...

Good luck!

Wolfgang
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Re: GRUB Issue? Console Fonts and messages?

2023-06-16 Thread Stephen Morris

On 17/6/23 09:56, Max Pyziur wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

[deleteded for the sake of brevity]


If not: It's not clear to me: Are the console fonts still too small
after your change in /etc/vconsole.conf - assuming you rebooted your
computer - or do you see no boot messages at all, when the system
starts?

Just in case they're still to small, here's my
/etc/default/grub


GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.luks.uuid=luks-6ec3f3ab-c5d1-4e4a-b263-c375daf64c11 
radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1"

GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true


Please note the line
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"

I'd guess with these settings together with the previously mentioned
vconsole.conf the first lines of the boot messages are still small,
but after a second or two after booting the system the fonts on the
lines following are becoming larger.

Also
info -f grub2 -n 'Simple configuration'
for the
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
line.

Plus:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Updating_the_GRUB_configuration_file 



Good luck!
Wolfgang


Thank you for your advice.

I tried modifying /etc/default/grub.

I changed the line reading:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rhgb quiet"

to
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=ter-m32n LANG=en_US.UTF-8"

I also tried several variants including:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun32 LANG=en_US.UTF-8"


In each instance afterwords, I ran:
grub2-mkconfig -o /etc/grub2.cfg


Hi Max,
    I was under the impression that for UEFI boots Fedora loaded 
/boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg which loads /boot/grub2/grub.cfg, so when 
you run grub2-mkconfig you need to specify grub2-mkconfig -o 
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg, as I do, to get you font changes into the grub 
boot menus.


regards,
Steve


and then rebooted.

In no instance were the appearance of the fonts changed in the bootup 
menu (the one where there is a selection of kernels from which to boot).


They continued to be teeny and illegible (at least, to me).

Thoughts?

Much thanks,


Max

p.s. the machine is a Dell XPS 13 9380 2019 vintage.
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Re: grub2-mkconfig Strange Message

2023-06-15 Thread Stephen Morris



On 12/6/23 05:24, George N. White III wrote:
On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 9:54 PM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


Hi,
    I have just used dnf to put on the currently available
maintenance in F38, having not put any on for a week or so, after
upgrading from F37 via dnf system-upgrade a couple of weeks ago.
    After putting on the maintenance I used grub2-mkconfig to
build the grub.cfg file and got the message below after it
notified of finding the linux kernels, does anyone know what this
means and why they are being produced from the released version of
grub2-mkconfig, the process I ran after the maintenance I put on a
week or so ago did not produce these messages?

fgrep: warning: fgrep is obsolescent; using grep -F


 /usr/sbin/grub2-mkconfig --help
[...]
Report bugs to .

I haven't seen this warning since before COVID. There are lots of 
grub2-X scripts, it would be useful to identify the culprit.

Maybe replace the current fgrep script with one that prints more details.
The last update I did was the first time I have ever seen this message. 
Why are the grub maintainers not updating their scripts to avoid this?


regards,
Steve



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Re: grub2-mkconfig Strange Message

2023-06-15 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/6/23 11:11, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 10:53:58 +1000
Stephen Morris wrote:


fgrep: warning: fgrep is obsolescent; using grep -F

It means OCD linux geeks have decided they ought to remove an option used
for decades in uncounted thousands of shell scripts because they don't
like it. They've done the same with egrep and uname.

Here's my "big hammer" fix including the scripts I use to put back
the old behavior:

https://tomhorsley.com/game/Mjolnir.html

Thanks Tom, I'll have a look at that and see what I can do.

regards,
Steve

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grub2-mkconfig Strange Message

2023-06-09 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    I have just used dnf to put on the currently available maintenance 
in F38, having not put any on for a week or so, after upgrading from F37 
via dnf system-upgrade a couple of weeks ago.
    After putting on the maintenance I used grub2-mkconfig to build the 
grub.cfg file and got the message below after it notified of finding the 
linux kernels, does anyone know what this means and why they are being 
produced from the released version of grub2-mkconfig, the process I ran 
after the maintenance I put on a week or so ago did not produce these 
messages?


fgrep: warning: fgrep is obsolescent; using grep -F

regards,
Steve



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Re: grub2-mkconfig

2023-06-04 Thread Stephen Morris

On 4/6/23 04:33, Patrick Dupre wrote:

  vgs
   VG#PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize   VFree
   VolSys_1b   1   3   0 wz--n- <40.00g  <4.00g
   VolSys_21   3   0 wz--n-  84.50g  0
   VolSys_2b   1   2   0 wz--n- <40.00g <14.00g
# lvs
   LVVGAttr   LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move Log 
Cpy%Sync Convert
   iso-image VolSys_1b -wi-ao  10.00g
   tmp   VolSys_1b -wi-a-   1.00g
   usr-src   VolSys_1b -wi-ao  25.00g
   root  VolSys_2  -wi-a-  74.53g
   tmp   VolSys_2  -wi-a- 992.00m
   usr_local VolSys_2  -wi-a-   9.00g
   tmp   VolSys_2b -wi-a-   1.00g
   usr-src   VolSys_2b -wi-a-  25.00g
# pvs
   PV VGFmt  Attr PSize   PFree
   /dev/sda7  VolSys_2  lvm2 a--   84.50g  0
   /dev/sdb5  VolSys_1b lvm2 a--  <40.00g  <4.00g
   /dev/sdb6  VolSys_2b lvm2 a--  <40.00g <14.00g


===
  Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com
===



Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2023 at 8:11 PM
From: "Roger Heflin" 
To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
Cc: "stan" 
Subject: Re: grub2-mkconfig

try typing vgs/lvs/pvs and see if that also gets the warning.
Some prior centos version did also have this error for a while, I
never noticed any real issue with the programs reporting this.

For the most part this is just some attempt at reporting a "leaked"
file descriptor.I am not sure how one leaks a file descriptor as
all file descriptors owned by a process disappear when the process
goes away.  They may simply be reporting file descriptors that are
still "open" when the program exits (not properly closed), which so
long as it is not a file you are writing to(and have an unsynced
buffer in program ram still), then it is not an actual problem (it is
likely somewhat poor coding practices).   It likely means someone
forgot to turn off some debugging options and also forgot to close
some file that not closing it has no real impact on the program
function.

On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 9:09 AM stan via users
 wrote:

On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 13:18:47 +0200
Patrick Dupre  wrote:


Hello,

On a machine with a triple boot (an 3 HD, all fedora), I get a
bunches of

File descriptor 3 (pipe:[240388]) leaked on vgs invocation. Parent
PID 75317: grub2-probe

when I run grub2-mkconfig
I have /boot/efi (UEFI) on /dev/sda3 (in fat16)
and
grub2 core.img on /dev/sda1

Can I fix this?

In addition,
What are your recommendations for running (which systems)
grub2-mkconfig
and
grub2-install /dev/sda
Hi Patrick, just on this front, I use grub2-mkconfig on my UEFI F38 
system as grubby, which is used by default in Fedora, sometimes does not 
configure grub to load the initramfs at boot time. If your boot system 
is UEFI, then you don't need grub2-install /dev/sda, as that is only 
required for legacy bios boots, but even in the legacy boot mode you can 
still use grub2-mkconfig to build your grub.cfg file.


regards,
Steve


I never see that error when I run grub2-mkconfig, in both uefi and
legacy.  So, I suspect there is something about the way your system is
set up causing the issue.

A search turned up this link that describes the cause and a workaround.
https://superuser.com/questions/1437911/file-descriptor-3-leaked-on-vgcfgbackup-invocation-parent-pid-bash
Other links explained that this is happening in the lvm utilities, and
is harmless, basically a warning.  You must have lvm enabled, and the
grub2-mkconfig is probing them, and triggering lvm to issue this error.
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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 14/2/23 15:21, Tim via users wrote:

supplemental:

I should point out that I don't *use* Thunderbird.  I have it installed
(the one from Fedora's preinstallation, not a different "daily" one),
and can experiment with it, but I use Evolution.  Out of all the email
clients I've tried on Linux, it's the least-worst.  Not the best
recommendation, but that's how things evolved (pun intended)

Hunting around, I managed to find an email with a misidentified PDF
file attachment (as application/octet-stream).  Though I couldn't find
one with a blank space in the name.

Evolution will open it when clicked on, just the same as a correctly
identified one (as application/pdf), in my PDF reader.  Or, perhaps I
should say that my system (Mate spin of F36) does, Evolution has no
obvious mimetype configuration options.
I think Thunderbird is the same, I'm using KDE's application/pdf 
settings to specify Acrobat as the default. Every entry in Thunderbird's 
"Files & Attachments" table is set to "Always Prompt" (I don't remember 
whether this was a Thunderbird default or whether I changed them to that).
Also, when clicking on an application/octet-stream pdf attachment, if I 
select other in the prompt, Acrobat does not appear in the list of 
applications that can be used to open the pdf. Interestingly, for both 
mimetypes, Chrome and Chromium both appear in the application list, 
Firefox doesn't because with the way it is installed I would have to add 
it manually if I wanted to.


Thunderbird will open it when clicked on, within itself.  Likewise for
correctly identified ones.  I only get open, save-as, detach, delete
options, no open-with options, on the message reader.
With the pdf options in Thunderbird set to "Always Prompt" I get a 
dialogue the shows "Open With",  "Save File" and a check box "Do this 
automatically for files like this from now on.".
The open with entry is a drop down list that contains "Adobe Reader 9 
(default)", "Okular" and "Other".  If I click on "Other" it displays a 
list of "Recommended Applications" which is all the application entries 
in the application/pdf mimetype list except for the snap installed 
Acrobat DC entry (it does this for both mimetypes even though  the 
application/octet-stream list is empty in system settings, incidentally 
it has only done this for the application/octet-stream since installing 
the linux version of Acrobat Reader 9.5.5), and a button for "View All 
Applications" and a button for "Find New Applications".
Interestingly, if having clicked on "Other" I then select "Cancel" it 
changes the displayed name in the drop down to "Okular" instead of 
"Adobe Reader 9 (default)" which was shown when the dialogue opened.


regards,
Steve



If I go into the Thunderbird settings, and change PDF handling to an
external reader, it works (correctly and incorrectly identified
mimetyped files are opened externally).


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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 14/2/23 14:55, Tim via users wrote:

Just following up on an older thread...


Tim:

You can try setting it to pass the file to xdg-open, and then
xdg-open will try opening the file in the right application for
what the file is.  See if that changes anything.

Stephen Morris:

To use xdg-open do I need to save the attachment first, or if not,
when I am clicking on the attachment in the attachment bar at the
bottom of the mail, to browse the attachment, how do I pass that into
xdg-open?

xdg-open is a file handler program.  Hand it a file, and it'll decide
what to do with it based on its own rules (determining the type of
file, and the appropriate/preferred application to read it), making it
a useful default to handle unknown (application/octet-stream) files
from the mail.  In your mailer, you'd set it (xdg-open) as the default
program for such files, and/or any other files you'd like to palm off
to it.  So, instead of setting acrobat in the attachment preferences,
you'd set xdg-open.

Elsewhere, in xdg's settings, you'd tell it what your preferences are
for handling PDF files.  This stage of configuration, I don't remember
the process.  Your desktop "preferred applications" configurator may
set them for you, or it might just set its own preferred applications.

If your mail program "opens" the file, it'll send it to the application
configured in your mail program.  If you "save" a file, it just gets
directly saved to your drive.

The advantage of using xdg-open for application/octet-stream
attachments is that if you receive a PDF sent that way, xdg-open should
(could) use the right reader to view a PDF; if you get sent a JPEG as
application/octet-stream, xdg-open should use an image viewer to view
the JPEG.  Likewise for any other file mis-sent as that generic binary
description, it'd analyse the file and open it appropriately.

The alternative is that people try setting a PDF reader as the
application for application/octet-stream attachments, then things foul
up when they receive something other that PDF sent that way.  And they
will receive various things misidentified that way.

Ideally, you should never receive any of the common types of files
misidentifed as that generic unknown binary mimetype, they've been
known about for decades.

I tend to save attached files and open the saved file, I'm not fond of
directly opening attachments.  I often find that doesn't work as
straight-forwardly as you might wish.

The attachments are being saved to a sub-folder of /tmp where the
sub-folder name looks like it may have been named to reflect the pid
of Thunderbird.

I would expect any of your applications ought to be able to open any
file saved in your name.  There could be SELinux implications.

Did it save the file with a .pdf suffix, too?
It did save the file with a pdf extension, but I think the issue may be 
that snap has installed the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, 
which runs through Wine, as there is no linux version of Acrobat DC, as 
Adobe stopped supporting Linux quite some time ago.





A wild thought:  Is it a filename with blank spaces in it?

The attachment that is mimetype application/binary-octet does have
embedded blanks in the attachment name, the attachment that is
mimetype application/pdf doesn't have embedded blanks in the
attachment name.

That can foul things up.  It's 2023, but some applications still have
grief dealing with filenames with spaces in it.  And there are so many
people using computers who never learnt that it can be a problem.


Interestingly, I registered Acrobat as the default application for
mimetype application/pdf, so when I clicked on the application/pdf
mimetype attachment the prompt asked me if I wanted to open it the
default of Acrobat, but to check to location of the file I selected
Okular instead.
When I then opened the email that had the mimetype
application/binary-octet attachment, when I clicked on the attachment
the prompt asked me if I wanted to open the file in Okular even
though it had Acrobat as the default.

"What" has Acrobat set as the default?  Thunderbird's setting for
handling application/pdf or application/octet-stream?  Your desktop's
settings?
Sorry, I had application/pdf set to Acrobat in KDE's system settings for 
application mimetypes. Interestingly with this, even though via the 
System Settings I only have application/pdf set to Acrobat as the 
default viewer, the system prompt still shows Acrobat as the default 
application even though it is not specified in the mimetype settings in 
KDE for the octet-stream. The fact that the prompt shows the "preferred" 
application as Okular after opening a pdf from Thunderbird in that 
application may be a feature of Thunderbird, but I'm not sure.
In the Thunderbird settings for "Files & Attachments" I have "Portable 
Document Format (PDF)"  set to "Always Prompt".





Mimetyping works thus:

W

Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily [Resolved]

2023-02-11 Thread Stephen Morris

On 5/2/23 11:26, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
    I have Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installed in F37 via Snap. When I 
click on a pdf attachment in Thunderbird Daily I get a prompt asking 
if I want to view it in the Ocular default or save the attachment. If 
I click "OK" to display it in Ocular it displays fine.
    When I click on the Drop Down in the prompt and select "Other" to 
display the pdf in something other than Ocular I am not shown Acrobat 
in the list, but if I look at "KDE System Settings->Applications->File 
Associations->application->pdf" Adobe Acrobat is shown as the third 
entry in the list of applications. If I move Adobe Acrobat to the top 
then the prompt from Thunderbird shows Adobe Acrobat as the default as 
expected.
    With the prompt now asking if I want to view the pdf in Acrobat, 
if I click on "OK" Acrobat is launched but produced the error "There 
was an error opening this document. This file cannot be found".  If I 
edit the pdf association entry for Acrobat and add "%U" into the empty 
Arguments text box, in the same way it is specified for the Ocular 
entry, Acrobat still produces the error message that it can't find the 
file.
    Has the snap process not installed Acrobat correctly, or is the 
file argument for Acrobat not "%U", or is there something else at play 
here?


regards,
Steve
It seems as though the reason the attachment does not appear to be 
passed into Acrobat is the version that snap installs is the Windows 
version of Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.
I found on the net a methodology to install a 32-bit linux version of 
Acrobat Reader 9.5.5 into Fedora 33/34 which works for installing that 
version into F37. Even though with this install  the mimetype 
association doesn't specify any arguments for the filename like the one 
for Okular does, both of the two mimetype attachments get passed into 
Acrobat for viewing quite happily.
So now I can use the Acrobat Reader 9 association for accessing pdf 
attachments in emails and the Acrobat Reader DC app for saved pdf's if I 
need the extra functionality that it provides.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/2/23 01:38, Tim via users wrote:

On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 21:05 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

I've checked two mails with attachments, one mail has the pdf attachment
as content type application/binary-octet and the other has the content
type of application/pdf on the attachment and the issue occurs with both
of them.

On that note, it's not a good idea to try and get your program to open
PDFs sent as application/binary-octet, because it'll try to do the same
thing with any other non-PDF file.  Fun and chaos will ensue.
I had no idea that mime type was being used for the mail attachment 
until I viewed the mail source and searched through the source for the 
attachment that I found what mimetype the attachment had been added with.


You can try setting it to pass the file to xdg-open, and then xdg-open
will try opening the file in the right application for what the file
is.  See if that changes anything.
To use xdg-open do I need to save the attachment first, or if not, when 
I am clicking on the attachment in the attachment bar at the bottom of 
the mail, to browse the attachment, how do I pass that into xdg-open?


If you allow Thunderbird to directly open the PDF in Okular, can you
view properties of the PDF file in Okular, and see where the temporary
file is being loaded from?
The attachments are being saved to a sub-folder of /tmp where the 
sub-folder name looks like it may have been named to reflect the pid of 
Thunderbird.


A wild thought:  Is it a filename with blank spaces in it?
The attachment that is mimetype application/binary-octet does have 
embedded blanks in the attachment name, the attachment that is mimetype 
application/pdf doesn't have embedded blanks in the attachment name.


Interestingly, I registered Acrobat as the default application for 
mimetype application/pdf, so when I clicked on the application/pdf 
mimetype attachment the prompt asked me if I wanted to open it the 
default of Acrobat, but to check to location of the file I selected 
Okular instead.
When I then opened the email that had the mimetype 
application/binary-octet attachment, when I clicked on the attachment 
the prompt asked me if I wanted to open the file in Okular even though 
it had Acrobat as the default.
What I don't know from this functionality is whether what I'm seeing is 
standard Linux, or a feature of the version of Thunderbird I am using, 
as I expected the prompt to ask whether I wanted the file to be opened 
in whatever was the default application for the associated mimetype.


regards,
Steve

  

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 9/2/23 21:05, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 9/2/23 20:56, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 9/2/23 12:11, Tim via users wrote:

On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily 
configured
to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf 
attachment
in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save 
it. In

the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was
Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does 
not

appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the
app list in the pdf application association.

Is this for some, or all, PDFs?

A common problem with dealing with attachments is when they're sent
using the wrong mime-type.  Files are supposed to be sent with a
description of what type of file they are, and the recipient is
supposed to act upon that information.  It's not supposed to guess from
the filename, nor snoop into the file to work it out.

PDFs ought to be sent as:  application/pdf

However some senders may be set up badly, and just use the generic
"application/binary-octet" that means some unknown binary file.
It could be that situation, I hadn't checked that. I'll see if I can 
figure out what it is using.


I've checked two mails with attachments, one mail has the pdf 
attachment as content type application/binary-octet and the other has 
the content type of application/pdf on the attachment and the issue 
occurs with both of them.


regards,
Steve


regards,
Steve

I've just verified that the snap implementation of Acrordrdc is the 
windows version of Acrobat.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 9/2/23 20:56, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 9/2/23 12:11, Tim via users wrote:

On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured
to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf 
attachment

in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In
the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was
Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not
appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the
app list in the pdf application association.

Is this for some, or all, PDFs?

A common problem with dealing with attachments is when they're sent
using the wrong mime-type.  Files are supposed to be sent with a
description of what type of file they are, and the recipient is
supposed to act upon that information.  It's not supposed to guess from
the filename, nor snoop into the file to work it out.

PDFs ought to be sent as:  application/pdf

However some senders may be set up badly, and just use the generic
"application/binary-octet" that means some unknown binary file.
It could be that situation, I hadn't checked that. I'll see if I can 
figure out what it is using.


I've checked two mails with attachments, one mail has the pdf attachment 
as content type application/binary-octet and the other has the content 
type of application/pdf on the attachment and the issue occurs with both 
of them.


regards,
Steve


regards,
Steve

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 9/2/23 12:11, Tim via users wrote:

On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured
to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf attachment
in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In
the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was
Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not
appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the
app list in the pdf application association.

Is this for some, or all, PDFs?

A common problem with dealing with attachments is when they're sent
using the wrong mime-type.  Files are supposed to be sent with a
description of what type of file they are, and the recipient is
supposed to act upon that information.  It's not supposed to guess from
the filename, nor snoop into the file to work it out.

PDFs ought to be sent as:  application/pdf

However some senders may be set up badly, and just use the generic
"application/binary-octet" that means some unknown binary file.
It could be that situation, I hadn't checked that. I'll see if I can 
figure out what it is using.


regards,
Steve

  

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 9/2/23 09:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2023-02-09 at 08:52 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

I use Okular [sic] all the time.

I could use Ocular as well,

Once again, it's Okular, not Ocular (in case someone does a search for
the term in the future.)

Sorry, I thought it was Ocular.

regards,
Steve


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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-08 Thread Stephen Morris

On 8/2/23 22:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2023-02-07 at 22:59 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2/7/23 00:02, Stephen Morris wrote:

Ocular reads the pdf's as well, but I'm used to using Acrobat under
Windows and previous versions of Fedora where I did not have the
same
issues I am now, and we also use Acrobat at work.

regards,
Steve

I never cared for Ocular.

I use Okular [sic] all the time.
I could use Ocular as well, but in the past I have found the odd 
situation where Ocular doesn't display the pdf contents properly and 
Acrobat does, so I have tended to use Acrobat, and until now I have 
never had any issues with the Linux implementation. Having said this 
though, I think up until F36 Acrobat was installed via an installed 
repository designed for Fedora, it wasn't until F36 that the recommended 
method for installing Acrobat was Snap, but I also had no situation 
under F36 where I had a need to open a pdf mail attachment, hence don't 
know whether the issue I have now has always been there with the snap 
implementation or has only become an issue with F37.
As I mentioned in my reply to Todd, the Ocular association definition 
specifies a %U parameter to pass in the name and location of the file to 
display, but that specification doesn't work with Acrobat, so at the 
moment I don't know whether Acrobat requires a different parameter and 
if so whether that parameter is supported under Fedora.
The other thing I found strange is, I have Thunderbird Daily configured 
to prompt for download locations, and when I click on the pdf attachment 
in the mail I get prompted to open it in the default app or save it. In 
the default app drop down in that dialogue, when the default app was 
Ocular, if I select "Other" to select a different app, Acrobat does not 
appear in the list of selectable apps even though it is specified the 
app list in the pdf application association. So I'm not even sure at the 
moment if the snap implementation has been done properly or whether 
there is some other package that I'm missing.


regards,
Steve



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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-08 Thread Stephen Morris

On 8/2/23 19:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2/7/23 22:59, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Have you tried running Acrobat or Acrobat Reader
under Wine?


Acrobat's sub installe for WIodws is a disaster.

You can download the real insaller from:

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/AcrobatDC/2001320064/AcroRdrDC2001320064_en_US.exe 

I haven't tried yet as until now I have always been able to use a native 
linux version without any issues. I also haven't tested yet whether the 
association issue is global or only with the daily version of Thunderbird.
I've checked the association definition for Ocular and it has %U 
specified as a parameter, which works for passing the name and location 
of the attachment into Ocular for the attachment contents to be 
displayed. Adding this parameter into the Acrobat association definition 
doesn't work, so I'm now wondering if there is an equivalent parameter 
for Acrobat that is supported by Fedora, and does the same thing as %U?


regards,
Steve


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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-07 Thread Stephen Morris

On 7/2/23 12:33, Richard England wrote:

On 2/6/23 17:16, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote:
I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging 
information nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I 
would have thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux 
would have produced a pop-up for the exception with instructions on 
how to resolve it, like it did for the snap processes when snap was 
initially installed.
Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for 
extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular 
would also fail.
One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to 
give it the location of the extracted file may not be the correct 
parameter for Acrobat.


I think, by default, Thunderbird puts temp files in /tmp.  Would a 
program running in a snap even be able to access that?



Thunderbird lets you define where the downloads go.

See Edit > Settings > General and scroll down looking for "Save files 
to". Check it and select/browse to the location you want to save to.
I have it set to prompt for the location which is happening in my 
situation where it is asking whether I want to open it in the default 
app, which at the moment I have set to Acrobat, or save the file. If I 
select "Save" it prompts for where I want to save it.
My issue is when I specify to open the email attachment in the default 
app, being Acrobat, Acrobat errors saying it can't find the file. If I 
set the default to Ocular, the attachment open successfully in Ocular.


regards,
Steve



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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-07 Thread Stephen Morris

On 7/2/23 12:16, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote:
I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging information 
nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I would have 
thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux would have 
produced a pop-up for the exception with instructions on how to 
resolve it, like it did for the snap processes when snap was 
initially installed.
Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for 
extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular 
would also fail.
One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to give 
it the location of the extracted file may not be the correct 
parameter for Acrobat.


I think, by default, Thunderbird puts temp files in /tmp.  Would a 
program running in a snap even be able to access that?
Snapd runs as a socket, so I thought it should be able to access /tmp. I 
also thought anything in Fedora can access /tmp?


regards,
Steve


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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-07 Thread Stephen Morris

On 7/2/23 08:45, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2/6/23 13:21, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi Steve,

Not what you asked, BUT WHEN DOES THAT STOP ME!!!


I have used Master PDF Editor for years and
am very pleased with it.

https://code-industry.net/

The free versions (similar to Acrobat Reader)
works well for simple uses.  I pay for it every
years as it is used so much in my business and
I need the extra feature enabled.

Libre Office will now read PDF's too, but it is a
weird mess.

Ocular reads the pdf's as well, but I'm used to using Acrobat under 
Windows and previous versions of Fedora where I did not have the same 
issues I am now, and we also use Acrobat at work.


regards,
Steve


-T



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Re: Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-06 Thread Stephen Morris

On 6/2/23 03:03, stan via users wrote:

On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 11:26:03 +1100
Stephen Morris  wrote:


Hi,
      I have Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installed in F37 via Snap. When I
click on a pdf attachment in Thunderbird Daily I get a prompt asking
if I want to view it in the Ocular default or save the attachment. If
I click "OK" to display it in Ocular it displays fine.
      When I click on the Drop Down in the prompt and select "Other"
to display the pdf in something other than Ocular I am not shown
Acrobat in the list, but if I look at "KDE System
Settings->Applications->File Associations->application->pdf" Adobe
Acrobat is shown as the third entry in the list of applications. If I
move Adobe Acrobat to the top then the prompt from Thunderbird shows
Adobe Acrobat as the default as expected.
      With the prompt now asking if I want to view the pdf in Acrobat,
if I click on "OK" Acrobat is launched but produced the error "There
was an error opening this document. This file cannot be found".  If I
edit the pdf association entry for Acrobat and add "%U" into the
empty Arguments text box, in the same way it is specified for the
Ocular entry, Acrobat still produces the error message that it can't
find the file. Has the snap process not installed Acrobat correctly,
or is the file argument for Acrobat not "%U", or is there something
else at play here?

This seems like it is more a question that should be asked of snap or
adobe.  Unless someone else has this snap installed, and it is working
for them, or snap in general is failing on fedora.  I don't use snap
so I don't know.  Is there any way to get more debugging information?
Like, what is the filename it is looking for?  Is it looking in the
wrong place? Maybe it is nelinux context missing. Have you tried
running with selinux in permissive mode?
I seem to remember that the method for installing acrobat in Fedora used 
to be a 3rd party repository I think was provided by Adobe, but I 
believe Adobe stopped supporting Acrobat in Linux some time ago.
The reason I'm using snap is all the hits I found from Google on 
installing Acrobat in Fedora all said to use snap to do it and provided 
the relevant snap commands. I also don't know at the moment who supports 
snap and how.
I have no idea if there is any way to get extra debugging information 
nor do I know how to put Selinux in passive mode, but I would have 
thought that if it was an Selinux issue that Selinux would have produced 
a pop-up for the exception with instructions on how to resolve it, like 
it did for the snap processes when snap was initially installed.
Also if it was an Selinux issue I would have thought the process for 
extracting the attachment from the mail and passing it to Ocular would 
also fail.
One issue might be that the %U parameter specified for Ocular to give it 
the location of the extracted file may not be the correct parameter for 
Acrobat.


regards,
Steve

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Adobe Acrobat Can't Find the pdf File When Trying to Display an Email Attachment in Thunderbird Daily

2023-02-04 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    I have Adobe Acrobat Reader DC installed in F37 via Snap. When I 
click on a pdf attachment in Thunderbird Daily I get a prompt asking if 
I want to view it in the Ocular default or save the attachment. If I 
click "OK" to display it in Ocular it displays fine.
    When I click on the Drop Down in the prompt and select "Other" to 
display the pdf in something other than Ocular I am not shown Acrobat in 
the list, but if I look at "KDE System Settings->Applications->File 
Associations->application->pdf" Adobe Acrobat is shown as the third 
entry in the list of applications. If I move Adobe Acrobat to the top 
then the prompt from Thunderbird shows Adobe Acrobat as the default as 
expected.
    With the prompt now asking if I want to view the pdf in Acrobat, if 
I click on "OK" Acrobat is launched but produced the error "There was an 
error opening this document. This file cannot be found".  If I edit the 
pdf association entry for Acrobat and add "%U" into the empty Arguments 
text box, in the same way it is specified for the Ocular entry, Acrobat 
still produces the error message that it can't find the file.
    Has the snap process not installed Acrobat correctly, or is the 
file argument for Acrobat not "%U", or is there something else at play here?


regards,
Steve
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Re: power profiles

2023-02-04 Thread Stephen Morris

On 26/1/23 00:58, Neal Becker wrote:



On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:14 AM Frederic Muller  wrote:

On 25/01/2023 17:34, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 25/1/23 21:25, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 25/01/2023 17:01, Barry Scott wrote:


On 25/01/2023 06:30, Frederic Muller wrote:

Hi!

It seems i can only stay in Power Saver mode, balanced seems
to be clickable but quickly reverts to Power Saver and
Performance is not even clickable.

Any idea if there is any way to do that 'manually' as my
laptop is really slow now.

[...]



Where do I find the logs?

Where are you finding the power settings. I'm not using a laptop
but in KDE in the system settings under Power Management I don't
seem to have the options you are referring to.


In kde look for "battery and brightness".  I found it under "show 
hidden icons" on the bottom right, I believe that's called the system 
tray?
In my kde desktop in F37, in the "Hidden Icons" drop down in the system 
tray I don't have that option, I have "Power Management" with is the 
same option as in system settings. Also in the Energy Saving option in 
Power Management I don't have a screen brightness entry at all. Am I 
missing a package that should be installed?


regards,
Steve



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Re: Nvidia in F37

2023-01-25 Thread Stephen Morris

On 25/1/23 21:32, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:

On 25/01/2023 11:19, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 25/1/23 20:59, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:

Hi,

I just update from F35 to F37 and everything is fine except I 
noticed that

 instead of the Nvidia from RPMFusion it is using nouveau. In fact the
nvidia module is missing and wasn't built by akmod.

I think the problem is that it started with kernel 6.1.7 which is very
recent but it seems it's missing the kernel-headers -the most recent 
in the

 repositories is 6.1.5- and akmod needs that.

There is something strange going on or I just should wait for the 
headers

to appear? Or maybe install 6.1.5 and use that?
I've just checked on my system and the kernel-headers for 6.1.7 are 
indeed missing, but the nvidia driver on my system appears to be 
being used via
akmod potentially because I have the kernel-devel packages installed 
which

does exist for 6.1.7.

regards, Steve



I have kernel-devel installed but it doesn't seem to help.
Maybe your driver was built previuosly with kernel 6.1.5 and still 
works, as I just updated to F37 I never had that.
Do you have the kmod-nvidia packages installed? I may be using those for 
kernel compatibility with the akmod modules for backup in case they 
aren't in sync with the kernels which sometimes happens. With those 
kmod-nvidia packages I have them installed for kernels 6.0.17, 6.0.18, 
6.1.5, 6.1.6 and 6.1.7. I am also using the 525 version of the nvidia 
drivers.


regards,
Steve


G
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Re: power profiles

2023-01-25 Thread Stephen Morris

On 25/1/23 21:25, Frederic Muller wrote:

On 25/01/2023 17:01, Barry Scott wrote:


On 25/01/2023 06:30, Frederic Muller wrote:

Hi!

It seems i can only stay in Power Saver mode, balanced seems to be 
clickable but quickly reverts to Power Saver and Performance is not 
even clickable.


Any idea if there is any way to do that 'manually' as my laptop is 
really slow now.


I don't know the answer but have you looked for logs in the journal 
related to power?


I wonder if there are clues there as to what is happening.

Barry


I didn't. I however tried to run that auto-updater script I found on 
the topic and it doesn't work:


#!/bin/bash

dbus-monitor --system 
"type='signal',path='/org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0',member='PropertiesChanged'" 
| while read LINE; do

    echo ${LINE} | grep battery_BAT0 | grep -q PropertiesChanged
    if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
    BATT_STAT=$(dbus-send --print-reply=literal --system 
--dest=org.freedesktop.UPower 
/org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0 
org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get 
string:org.freedesktop.UPower.Device string:State | awk '{ print $3; }')

    if [ $BATT_STAT -eq 1 ] || [ $BATT_STAT -eq 4 ]; then
    LEVEL=$(powerprofilesctl list | grep -q performance && 
echo "performance" || echo "balanced")

    elif [ $BATT_STAT -eq 5 ]; then
    LEVEL="balanced"
    else
    LEVEL="power-saver"
    fi
    echo "Changing power level to ${LEVEL}"
    gdbus call --system --dest net.hadess.PowerProfiles --object-path 
/net/hadess/PowerProfiles --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set 
'net.hadess.PowerProfiles' 'ActiveProfile' "<'${LEVEL}'>" > /dev/null

    [[ $? -ne 0 ]] && echo "Could not change power level to ${LEVEL}!"
    fi
done


Where do I find the logs?
Where are you finding the power settings. I'm not using a laptop but in 
KDE in the system settings under Power Management I don't seem to have 
the options you are referring to.


regards,
Steve



Thank you.

Fred
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Re: Nvidia in F37

2023-01-25 Thread Stephen Morris

On 25/1/23 20:59, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:

Hi,

I just update from F35 to F37 and everything is fine except I noticed 
that instead of the Nvidia from RPMFusion it is using nouveau.

In fact the nvidia module is missing and wasn't built by akmod.

I think the problem is that it started with kernel 6.1.7 which is very 
recent but it seems it's missing the kernel-headers -the most recent 
in the repositories is 6.1.5- and akmod needs that.


There is something strange going on or I just should wait for the 
headers to appear? Or maybe install 6.1.5 and use that?
I've just checked on my system and the kernel-headers for 6.1.7 are 
indeed missing, but the nvidia driver on my system appears to be being 
used via akmod potentially because I have the kernel-devel packages 
installed which does exist for 6.1.7.


regards,
Steve



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Re: cifs problem? was Re: Black screens with rpmfusion nvidia 470xx and 6.0.16.fc36

2023-01-10 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/1/23 13:05, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 1/9/23 20:10, Stephen Morris wrote:
I'm not sure if it is significant, but I am using gdm as my display 
manager even though I am booting into KDE.


This is a (very nasty) kernel bug. It's been discussed quite a bit on 
this list, so you can have a look at the archives. It seems to have 
been fixed in 6.0.17, out now, or you can roll back to 6.0.15.

I had already tried it on 6.0.17, and yes it is rectified.
What is not rectified is 6.0.18 does not resolve the issue found in 
6.0.17 (it may be in earlier kernels as well but I haven't tested those) 
of the system shutdown being hung for a minute and a half by the cifs 
unmount process if the device disappears underneath the running system.


regards,
Steve



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Re: Help Needed With Netflix Video Playing Failure

2023-01-10 Thread Stephen Morris

On 11/1/23 11:50, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 1/10/23 16:18, Stephen Morris wrote:
I'm trying to update /var/lib/snapd/snap/netflix-web to link to the 
widevine library but it appears from /etc/mtab that 
/var/lib/snapd/snap/netflix-web/1 (this is the current netflix-web 
folder) is mounted on /dev/loop8  as read-only (all attempted updates 
to this folder fail because it is a read-only filesystem).

How do I resolve this?


I don't really know much about snaps, but I expect it's not something 
you could write to.
I'm not really sure either, but the mount processes for all the snaps 
processes are issued at boot time, but I don't know whether its before 
or after the starting of the snapd service and socket at boot.
What I have found out is the mount point folder is permanent (which is 
normal) and if I try to unmount /var/lib/snapd/snap/netflix-web/1 the 
unmount fails saying it can't find the mount, presumably because it is 
not in /etc/fstab, but an unmount of /dev/loop8 proceeds in which case 
the mount point folder is empty (potentially which is also normal).
Linking to the chrome widevinecrm.so file and parent folder in every 
place under ~/snap/netflix-web doesn't resolve the issue, so I guess now 
the only solution is to ignore the app and use one of the installed 
browsers where I know it does work.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Help Needed With Netflix Video Playing Failure

2023-01-10 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/1/23 13:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 1/9/23 15:52, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 10/1/23 04:18, Mike Wright wrote:

On 1/9/23 01:19, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
 I have installed the netflix app via snap. When I run the app 
the highlight video shown at the top of the video list plays 
correctly and the thumb nail videos of all the videos also plays 
correctly, but if I attempt to actually stream any of the videos 
they fail with the message "Please visit 
chrome://settings/content/protectedContent and make sure 'Sites can 
play protected content' is selected" and also shows "Error code 
M7701-1003". I have checked the specified settings in Chrome and 
Firefox (which is my default browser) and the Play Protected 
content settings are active in both.
 If I go to www.netflix.com.au in my browsers and login all the 
videos stream fine without any issues. I did find a suggestion on 
the net to set the video settings in my netflix profile to medium 
but doing that makes no difference to the issue.
 Does anyone have any ideas on what the issue with the snap 
netflix app could be and how I fix the issue?



I don't remember for certain but I think I had to install a browser 
plugin to handle DRM.


Look for "get widevine for firefox or chrome" on your preferred 
search engine.
I have widevine already installed for Chrome, firefox and chromium, 
and can stream videos from the netflix web site in the browsers but I 
can't from the app.


The app is isolated from all of those, so it doesn't matter that you 
have installed it outside the snap.  The app inside the snap needs it.
I'm trying to update /var/lib/snapd/snap/netflix-web to link to the 
widevine library but it appears from /etc/mtab that 
/var/lib/snapd/snap/netflix-web/1 (this is the current netflix-web 
folder) is mounted on /dev/loop8  as read-only (all attempted updates to 
this folder fail because it is a read-only filesystem).

How do I resolve this?

regards,
Steve


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Re: cifs problem? was Re: Black screens with rpmfusion nvidia 470xx and 6.0.16.fc36

2023-01-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/1/23 11:29, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 10/1/23 11:20, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 9/1/23 21:26, John Pilkington wrote:




Maybe this is 
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216895, referred to 
in this current thread:


Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

I have two cifs mounting lines in /etc/fstab; only one has the 
hardware connected.




I have cifs... vers=3.0,

//192.168.1.XX/Public /mnt/nas1a cifs 
credentials=,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,vers=3.0,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 
0 0


Here is a 'journalctl' output from, first, 6.0.16 (which hung) and 
then 6.0.15, which completed.  Maybe it will help.  Or perhaps just 
wait for 6.0.18...



nas1a is on the network, nas2a is not.  The main difference here 
appears to be that with 6.0.16 sddm is not being called.


{{{


[john@HPFed ~]$ sudo journalctl --since 2023-01-07 | grep  -A 20 nas2a
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: Mounting mnt-nas2a.mount - 
/mnt/nas2a...
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting rpc-statd-notify.service 
- Notify NFS peers of a restart...
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: iscsi.service: Unit cannot be 
reloaded because it is inactive.

Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed sm-notify[1304]: Version 2.6.2 starting
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed systemd[1]: Started rpc-statd-notify.service - 
Notify NFS peers of a restart.
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel 
msg='unit=rpc-statd-notify comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
res=success'

Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed kernel: FS-Cache: Loaded
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed kernel: Key type dns_resolver registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: Key type cifs.spnego registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: Key type cifs.idmap registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount 
\\192.168.1.209\Public
Jan 07 10:04:51 HPFed chronyd[1041]: Selected source 83.151.207.133 
(2.fedora.pool.ntp.org)
Jan 07 10:04:51 HPFed chronyd[1041]: System clock TAI offset set to 
37 seconds
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed mount[1305]: mount error(113): could not 
connect to 192.168.1.209Unable to find suitable address.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: VFS: Error connecting to socket. 
Aborting operation.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return 
code = -113
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount 
\\192.168.1.67\Public
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: mnt-nas2a.mount: Mount process 
exited, code=exited, status=32/n/a
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: mnt-nas2a.mount: Failed with 
result 'exit-code'.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Failed to mount mnt-nas2a.mount - 
/mnt/nas2a.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
remote-fs.target - Remote File Systems.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: remote-fs.target: Job 
remote-fs.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting 
systemd-user-sessions.service - Permit User Sessions...
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished 
systemd-user-sessions.service - Permit User Sessions.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel 
msg='unit=systemd-user-sessions comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=atd 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Started atd.service - Deferred 
execution scheduler.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Started crond.service - Command 
Scheduler.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=crond 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting 
plymouth-quit-wait.service - Hold until boot process finishes up...
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting plymouth-quit.service - 
Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen...

Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Mounted mnt-nas1a.mount - /mnt/nas1a.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Received SIGRTMIN+21 from PID 346 
(plymouthd).
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Received SIGRTMIN+21 from PID 346 
(plymouthd).
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished 
plymouth-quit-wait.service - Hold until boot process finishes up.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel 
msg='unit=plymouth-quit-wait comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished plymouth-quit.service - 
Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=plymouth-quit 
comm=

Re: cifs problem? was Re: Black screens with rpmfusion nvidia 470xx and 6.0.16.fc36

2023-01-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/1/23 11:20, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 9/1/23 21:26, John Pilkington wrote:




Maybe this is https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216895, 
referred to in this current thread:


Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

I have two cifs mounting lines in /etc/fstab; only one has the 
hardware connected.




I have cifs... vers=3.0,

//192.168.1.XX/Public /mnt/nas1a cifs 
credentials=,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,vers=3.0,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 
0 0


Here is a 'journalctl' output from, first, 6.0.16 (which hung) and 
then 6.0.15, which completed.  Maybe it will help.  Or perhaps just 
wait for 6.0.18...



nas1a is on the network, nas2a is not.  The main difference here 
appears to be that with 6.0.16 sddm is not being called.


{{{


[john@HPFed ~]$ sudo journalctl --since 2023-01-07 | grep  -A 20 nas2a
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: Mounting mnt-nas2a.mount - 
/mnt/nas2a...
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting rpc-statd-notify.service - 
Notify NFS peers of a restart...
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: iscsi.service: Unit cannot be 
reloaded because it is inactive.

Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed sm-notify[1304]: Version 2.6.2 starting
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed systemd[1]: Started rpc-statd-notify.service - 
Notify NFS peers of a restart.
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=rpc-statd-notify 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'

Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed kernel: FS-Cache: Loaded
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed kernel: Key type dns_resolver registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: Key type cifs.spnego registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: Key type cifs.idmap registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount 
\\192.168.1.209\Public
Jan 07 10:04:51 HPFed chronyd[1041]: Selected source 83.151.207.133 
(2.fedora.pool.ntp.org)
Jan 07 10:04:51 HPFed chronyd[1041]: System clock TAI offset set to 
37 seconds
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed mount[1305]: mount error(113): could not 
connect to 192.168.1.209Unable to find suitable address.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: VFS: Error connecting to socket. 
Aborting operation.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return 
code = -113
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount 
\\192.168.1.67\Public
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: mnt-nas2a.mount: Mount process 
exited, code=exited, status=32/n/a
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: mnt-nas2a.mount: Failed with result 
'exit-code'.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Failed to mount mnt-nas2a.mount - 
/mnt/nas2a.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
remote-fs.target - Remote File Systems.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: remote-fs.target: Job 
remote-fs.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting 
systemd-user-sessions.service - Permit User Sessions...
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished 
systemd-user-sessions.service - Permit User Sessions.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel 
msg='unit=systemd-user-sessions comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=atd 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Started atd.service - Deferred 
execution scheduler.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Started crond.service - Command 
Scheduler.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=crond 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting plymouth-quit-wait.service 
- Hold until boot process finishes up...
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting plymouth-quit.service - 
Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen...

Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Mounted mnt-nas1a.mount - /mnt/nas1a.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Received SIGRTMIN+21 from PID 346 
(plymouthd).
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Received SIGRTMIN+21 from PID 346 
(plymouthd).
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished plymouth-quit-wait.service 
- Hold until boot process finishes up.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel 
msg='unit=plymouth-quit-wait comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished plymouth-quit.service - 
Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=plymouth-quit 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/sy

Re: cifs problem? was Re: Black screens with rpmfusion nvidia 470xx and 6.0.16.fc36

2023-01-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 9/1/23 21:26, John Pilkington wrote:




Maybe this is https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216895, 
referred to in this current thread:


Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

I have two cifs mounting lines in /etc/fstab; only one has the 
hardware connected.




I have cifs... vers=3.0,

//192.168.1.XX/Public /mnt/nas1a cifs 
credentials=,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,vers=3.0,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 
0 0


Here is a 'journalctl' output from, first, 6.0.16 (which hung) and 
then 6.0.15, which completed.  Maybe it will help.  Or perhaps just 
wait for 6.0.18...



nas1a is on the network, nas2a is not.  The main difference here 
appears to be that with 6.0.16 sddm is not being called.


{{{


[john@HPFed ~]$ sudo journalctl --since 2023-01-07 | grep  -A 20 nas2a
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: Mounting mnt-nas2a.mount - 
/mnt/nas2a...
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting rpc-statd-notify.service - 
Notify NFS peers of a restart...
Jan 07 10:04:44 HPFed systemd[1]: iscsi.service: Unit cannot be 
reloaded because it is inactive.

Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed sm-notify[1304]: Version 2.6.2 starting
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed systemd[1]: Started rpc-statd-notify.service - 
Notify NFS peers of a restart.
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=rpc-statd-notify 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'

Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed kernel: FS-Cache: Loaded
Jan 07 10:04:45 HPFed kernel: Key type dns_resolver registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: Key type cifs.spnego registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: Key type cifs.idmap registered
Jan 07 10:04:46 HPFed kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount 
\\192.168.1.209\Public
Jan 07 10:04:51 HPFed chronyd[1041]: Selected source 83.151.207.133 
(2.fedora.pool.ntp.org)
Jan 07 10:04:51 HPFed chronyd[1041]: System clock TAI offset set to 37 
seconds
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed mount[1305]: mount error(113): could not connect 
to 192.168.1.209Unable to find suitable address.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: VFS: Error connecting to socket. 
Aborting operation.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return 
code = -113
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed kernel: CIFS: Attempting to mount 
\\192.168.1.67\Public
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: mnt-nas2a.mount: Mount process 
exited, code=exited, status=32/n/a
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: mnt-nas2a.mount: Failed with result 
'exit-code'.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Failed to mount mnt-nas2a.mount - 
/mnt/nas2a.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Dependency failed for 
remote-fs.target - Remote File Systems.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: remote-fs.target: Job 
remote-fs.target/start failed with result 'dependency'.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting 
systemd-user-sessions.service - Permit User Sessions...
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished 
systemd-user-sessions.service - Permit User Sessions.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel 
msg='unit=systemd-user-sessions comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=atd 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Started atd.service - Deferred 
execution scheduler.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Started crond.service - Command 
Scheduler.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=crond 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting plymouth-quit-wait.service 
- Hold until boot process finishes up...
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Starting plymouth-quit.service - 
Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen...

Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Mounted mnt-nas1a.mount - /mnt/nas1a.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Received SIGRTMIN+21 from PID 346 
(plymouthd).
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Received SIGRTMIN+21 from PID 346 
(plymouthd).
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished plymouth-quit-wait.service 
- Hold until boot process finishes up.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel 
msg='unit=plymouth-quit-wait comm="systemd" 
exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed systemd[1]: Finished plymouth-quit.service - 
Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen.
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed audit[1]: SERVICE_START pid=1 uid=0 
auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=kernel msg='unit=plymouth-quit 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? 
terminal=? res=success'

Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed crond[1357]: (CRON) STARTUP (1.5.7)
Jan 07 10:04:52 HPFed crond[1357]: (CRON) INFO 

Re: Help Needed With Netflix Video Playing Failure

2023-01-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 10/1/23 04:18, Mike Wright wrote:

On 1/9/23 01:19, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,
 I have installed the netflix app via snap. When I run the app 
the highlight video shown at the top of the video list plays 
correctly and the thumb nail videos of all the videos also plays 
correctly, but if I attempt to actually stream any of the videos they 
fail with the message "Please visit 
chrome://settings/content/protectedContent and make sure 'Sites can 
play protected content' is selected" and also shows "Error code 
M7701-1003". I have checked the specified settings in Chrome and 
Firefox (which is my default browser) and the Play Protected content 
settings are active in both.
 If I go to www.netflix.com.au in my browsers and login all the 
videos stream fine without any issues. I did find a suggestion on the 
net to set the video settings in my netflix profile to medium but 
doing that makes no difference to the issue.
 Does anyone have any ideas on what the issue with the snap 
netflix app could be and how I fix the issue?



I don't remember for certain but I think I had to install a browser 
plugin to handle DRM.


Look for "get widevine for firefox or chrome" on your preferred search 
engine.
I have widevine already installed for Chrome, firefox and chromium, and 
can stream videos from the netflix web site in the browsers but I can't 
from the app.


regards,
Steve


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Help Needed With Netflix Video Playing Failure

2023-01-09 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    I have installed the netflix app via snap. When I run the app the 
highlight video shown at the top of the video list plays correctly and 
the thumb nail videos of all the videos also plays correctly, but if I 
attempt to actually stream any of the videos they fail with the message 
"Please visit chrome://settings/content/protectedContent and make sure 
'Sites can play protected content' is selected" and also shows "Error 
code M7701-1003". I have checked the specified settings in Chrome and 
Firefox (which is my default browser) and the Play Protected content 
settings are active in both.
    If I go to www.netflix.com.au in my browsers and login all the 
videos stream fine without any issues. I did find a suggestion on the 
net to set the video settings in my netflix profile to medium but doing 
that makes no difference to the issue.
    Does anyone have any ideas on what the issue with the snap netflix 
app could be and how I fix the issue?


regards,
Steve
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Re: Installed Fedora 37 on older Dell with Windows 10, but doen't show windows as boot option??

2023-01-09 Thread Stephen Morris

On 9/1/23 16:16, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:

On 8 Jan 2023 at 22:09, Go Canes wrote:

From:   Go Canes 
Date sent:  Sun, 8 Jan 2023 22:09:24 -0500
Subject:Re: Installed Fedora 37 on older Dell with
Windows 10, but doen't
show windows as boot option??
To: mi...@guam.net,
Community support for Fedora users



On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 9:37 PM Michael D. Setzer II via users
 wrote:

At present, if I tried to boot legacy, it came up with not
bootable with the boot flag on UEFI partition (sda3), set
boot flag to (sda2) windows partitions, and can not boot
and use F12 to select legacy boot, and it will load
windows 10, and regular boot goes to UEFI but only has
Fedora..

Are you saying that UEFI boots Fedora, and legacy boots Windows 10?
If yes, you probably can't boot both vai grub (I'm sure someone with
more expertise will chime in).


Just use it for some testing of windows stuff, but it isn't
supported to windows 11, since it has an I3 with 4th gen
cpu, and looks like 11 requies an I3 with 8th gen.

If your CPU supports it, why not convert Windows 10 to a VM?  If not,
and you have the Fedora=UEFI/Windows=legacy config, then to get
Windows visible in GRUB you probably have to convert the Windows 10
install to UEFI.

(FWIW I converted my Windows installs to VirtualBox years ago, and
then more recently converted them to KVM.  And after converting to KVM
I converted them from BIOS to UEFI.)

Well have to look into it. Was expecting the installation
of Fedora to handle the adding of Fedora to the current
boot setup. Don't recall it prompting for changing boot to
UEFI from the existing Legacy that the Windows 10 on
the Dell machine had. Bought the dell machine on ebay
for about $150 with 8G ram and 1T drive just to have a
windows machine around. Other 6 machines all Fedora.
So, don't have any windows installation media. So, at
precent the default boot on machine comes up with
Fedora, and no offer of windows in UEFI manager. Have
to use the F12 key, which then default to show the
Legacy boot from drive that brings up the Windows 10
just fine. On my notebook, the grub menu has the
Window 7 as a boot option from sda2. The Dell also is
loading the windows from sda2 since sda1 is recovery
partition. Has sda3 as a FAT16 partition that was created
by install, since before disk only had sda1 and sda2.

Just thought it would handle it, or at least give a
message that install was converting system to UEFI boot,
and old OS would not be a boot option under the UEFI..

Learn something new.. So, will have to see of others
have other options..

Thanks for quick reply.
If the Windows install is legacy then presumably windows was installed 
on the laptop by disabling UEFI in the bios (it seems as though it was 
active from what you are saying about the fedora install). What happens 
if you turn UEFI off in the bios, re-initialise the fedora partition and 
re-install fedora?
Have you tried running grub2-mkconfig after booting into fedora for the 
first time to see if that sees the Windows partition?


regards,
Steve



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Re: cifs problem? was Re: Black screens with rpmfusion nvidia 470xx and 6.0.16.fc36

2023-01-08 Thread Stephen Morris

On 9/1/23 01:53, John Pilkington wrote:

On 08/01/2023 13:58, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 8/1/23 21:26, John Pilkington wrote:

On 08/01/2023 02:10, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 8/1/23 12:59, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 1/7/23 17:24, Stephen Morris wrote:
I've attached ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log (my Xorg doesn't 
write its log to /var/log) as the end of my log file is 
completely different to what you are showing. I also don't have 
an xorg.conf file as I can get the 4K resolution I run with 
without the need for any specific specifications. The only 
configuration file in xorg.conf.d is the one for the keyboard.


By default, Xorg doesn't run as root any more, so it can only 
write logs to the user directory.
I only included that specification for where my Xorg.0.log file is 
located because John was indicating that his Xorg.0.log is being 
written to /var/log.


regards,
Steve



Maybe this is https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216895, 
referred to in this current thread:


Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

I have two cifs mounting lines in /etc/fstab; only one has the 
hardware connected.
I have a cifs mount and nfs mount in my /etc/fstab to the same 
network device that is not always accessible because of the power 
saving function in the device. In earlier versions of Fedora if the 
device was not accessible the boot process used to hang and I would 
have to boot into Windows (where I also had it mounted on a drive 
mapping) to get explorer to activate the device and then boot into 
Fedora to get a successful boot. So far I haven't had this issue 
occur, but this may be because I mount the nfs interface first, or 
because in the cifs definition I use the _netdev parameter which as I 
understand it is supposed to ignore the mount if the network device 
is unavailable. What I also haven't done yet is isolate the invalid 
parameter when I change the definition to use smb3 instead of cifs 
(smb3 supercedes cifs).


regards,
Steve



I have cifs... vers=3.0,

//192.168.1.XX/Public /mnt/nas1a cifs 
credentials=,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,vers=3.0,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 
0 0
I have cifs... vers=1.0 because the nas device I am using it too old to 
support cifs version 3, as I understand it smb3 is version 3.0 or 3.1, 
but does support the vers=3.1.1 specification for Windows 10 or Windows 11.


//192.168.1.12/Volume_1 /mnt/dlink  cifs 
   rw,_netdev,nofail,noatime,vers=1.0,credentials=/etc/dlinkcreds 0 0


I'm also interested in what environment the person in the bug report is 
using as in his cifs definition he had the USER parameter specified, as 
Fedora doesn't support that parameter for cifs mounts, and if you 
specify it the mount fails with the message "User mounts are not 
supported by cifs".
I also have the _netdev parameter specified as that indicates the device 
is a network device and hence delays the mount until the network is 
available. The nofail parameter specifies to not produce errors if the 
device is unavailable, which may stop the hang if the device is not there.
I also have mount entries for Windows 11 devices and for those I'm using 
the ntfs-3g driver rather than cifs or smb3.


UUID=52F237FCF237E2C1   /mnt/wine   ntfs-3g 
   user,auto,noatime,nodiratime,exec,rw 0 0


regards,
Steve



Thanks,

John P

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