Re: Open Office becoming impossible to use- bug ridden

[James Baker]

I'm not sure I did what you asked. I renamed the folder in which OpenOffice is 
located, the that is not the application file that starts the program. I don't 
know where to find that, it that's what I was supposed to rename. Anyway, this 
didn't work. It seemed to work for part of a day and then is started freezing 
again Now I can't even start it. I'll have to erase it and download a fresh 
copy.
Jim Baker
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From: Peter Kovacs 
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 10:53 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Re: Open Office becoming impossible to use- bug ridden


Am 04.06.23 um 22:26 schrieb James Baker:
> How do you do that? I have erased and replaced the program twice and it 
> worked briefly, then started freezing again.

the profile is not removed at uninstall, since it would affect updates, too.

rename folder %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 (windows)

If this solves the crashes, would you mind to zip and send me the profile?

I have a theory why this happens, but it would help to have confirmation.


> Jim Baker
> 
> From: Peter Kovacs 
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 9:54 AM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: Open Office becoming impossible to use- bug ridden
>
> Have you tried to reset the profile?
> Am 29.05.23 um 01:42 schrieb James Baker:
>> In the last 2-3 months, it has become increasingly difficult to use both 
>> spreadsheets and text documents. I add something minimal and the blue circle 
>> pops up and I get the message “Not Responding”. Sometimes that stops after 5 
>> minutes or so and I can continue and sometimes it continues for 30 minutes 
>> so I have to use Task Manager to “End Task” and start over. Have others 
>> experienced this? I don’t know if the has been an “improvement” made to 
>> OpenOffice that is causing this or it has been hacked and malware inserted 
>> or what. Perhaps I will erase my copy and import a new one to see if that 
>> helps anything.
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Re: Open Office becoming impossible to use- bug ridden

[James Baker]

How do you do that? I have erased and replaced the program twice and it worked 
briefly, then started freezing again.
Jim Baker

From: Peter Kovacs 
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2023 9:54 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Re: Open Office becoming impossible to use- bug ridden

Have you tried to reset the profile?
Am 29.05.23 um 01:42 schrieb James Baker:
> In the last 2-3 months, it has become increasingly difficult to use both 
> spreadsheets and text documents. I add something minimal and the blue circle 
> pops up and I get the message “Not Responding”. Sometimes that stops after 5 
> minutes or so and I can continue and sometimes it continues for 30 minutes so 
> I have to use Task Manager to “End Task” and start over. Have others 
> experienced this? I don’t know if the has been an “improvement” made to 
> OpenOffice that is causing this or it has been hacked and malware inserted or 
> what. Perhaps I will erase my copy and import a new one to see if that helps 
> anything.
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Open Office becoming impossible to use- bug ridden

[James Baker]

In the last 2-3 months, it has become increasingly difficult to use both 
spreadsheets and text documents. I add something minimal and the blue circle 
pops up and I get the message “Not Responding”. Sometimes that stops after 5 
minutes or so and I can continue and sometimes it continues for 30 minutes so I 
have to use Task Manager to “End Task” and start over. Have others experienced 
this? I don’t know if the has been an “improvement” made to OpenOffice that is 
causing this or it has been hacked and malware inserted or what. Perhaps I will 
erase my copy and import a new one to see if that helps anything.
Sent from Mail for Windows

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Win 10 ... Apache "Spreadsheet"

[James Jenkins]

I've been using this Spreadsheet file for a month now, suddenly in one 
cell,  a very bold bottom and right side line appears unable to get 
rid of it, (tried several, ways, no luck).

i have open office questions

[James Braude]

can i get them answered here? thank you

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Bug in openoffice\Calc (ISNA)

[james Hamilton]

In the attached spreadsheet Sheet 'Scoress' column AY rows 3:24, the function 
ISNA is not working properly (it works in all the other columns). If I store as 
XLS and reload the 1's disappear when I reload but then re-appear when I 
calculate.
This may be a fault with my computer (A Hp core i3 with SSD), but cannot 
imagine why.

Device name User-PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz   3.10 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)
Device ID 4773C111-D075-4545-91C5-46AFBF4E0DC6
Product ID 00326-1-0-AA082
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

Generaly, I am very pleased with your software.
Regards
James Hamilton
Kingston upon Thames, UK



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Difficulty with opening

[James Dunn]

Cannot use openoffice on my mac.  Getting a prompt that says it was not closed 
correctly at last usage. Can neither reopen or close. Only way to remove prompt 
from screen is to “Hide” it..
I had Apple trying to help me, but  they said it was something that you would 
be  able  to solve,

If any  further info is needed, I will forward.
Thank you for your help.
Sheila Dunn

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Windows10 blocking update

[James Shaw]

My laptop with Windows 10 won't allow my open office to update it. Any help
would be appreciated.
Jim

Email

[James]

When trying to send a document from openoffice to email client which is 
thunderbird it says save it locally and attach it in the email program. 
Why can't the email program open automatically when i click send as 
email from openoffice? I have checked and double checked the settings 
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read countless Help pages without success.  How hard is it to:

  1.  Insert page number
  2.  Start on number : __
I'm no computer hacker, but it can't be impossible since literally every other 
word processing program since the dawn of time has been able to accomplish this.

I love your products, I do.  This one thing confounds me.  Having to transfer 
my manuscript from my personal to my work computer just to fix page numbers is 
soul-crushing.  Help me.  Please, fix this feature.

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open office 419 not booting

[James / Hans Kunz]

hello
on my imac (2015 high sierra 10.12.6) open office 4.1.9 will not boot
version 4.1.3 is the last version that works fine, any newer version won’t boot
there is no mentioning that any older version has to be removed……..
below added is the 419 boot failure report
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Process:   soffice [838]
Path:  /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice
Identifier:org.openoffice.script
Version:   4.1.9 (???)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:??? [1]
Responsible:   soffice [838]
User ID:   502

Date/Time: 2021-02-08 10:38:04.375 +0800
OS Version:Mac OS X 10.12.6 (16G2136)
Report Version:12
Anonymous UUID:F70F3BDB-4496-F5DB-59F4-08BCFAB54B42


Time Awake Since Boot: 5600 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes:   KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x
Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal:Segmentation fault: 11
Termination Reason:Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
Terminating Process:   exc handler [0]

VM Regions Near 0:
--> 
   __TEXT 0001054cf000-0001054d [4K] r-x/rwx 
SM=COW  /Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/soffice

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   deployment.uno.dylib0x000113cc6db4 0x113c68000 + 388532
1   deployment.uno.dylib0x000113cc3402 0x113c68000 + 373762
2   deployment.uno.dylib0x000113c9858a 
dp_registry::backend::Package::processPackage_impl(bool, bool, 
com::sun::star::uno::Reference const&, 
com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 122
3   deployment.uno.dylib0x000113c98c3a non-virtual thunk to 
dp_registry::backend::Package::revokePackage(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, 
com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 26
4   deployment.uno.dylib0x000113c79152 
dp_manager::PackageManagerImpl::synchronizeRemovedExtensions(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, 
com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 2066
5   deployment.uno.dylib0x000113c7a89b 
dp_manager::PackageManagerImpl::synchronize(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, 
com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 155
6   deployment.uno.dylib0x000113c8d60a 
dp_manager::ExtensionManager::synchronize(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&, 
com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const&) + 442
7   libdeploymentmisc.dylib 0x000105a92fe3 
dp_misc::syncRepositories(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
 const&) + 451
8   libsofficeapp.dylib 0x0001056d55a3 
desktop::Desktop::SynchronizeExtensionRepositories() + 163
9   libsofficeapp.dylib 0x0001056c08f0 
desktop::Desktop::Main() + 1904
10  libvcl.dylib0x0001070ba52a ImplSVMain() + 74
11  libvcl.dylib0x000107079b90 
AquaSalInstance::handleAppDefinedEvent(NSEvent*) + 96
12  libvcl.dylib0x00010735d37d -[VCL_NSApplication 
sendEvent:] + 77
13  com.apple.AppKit0x7fffada553d7 -[NSApplication run] 
+ 1002
14  com.apple.AppKit0x7fffada1fdbe NSApplicationMain + 
1237
15  libvcl.dylib0x000107078867 
ImplSVMainHook(unsigned char*) + 183
16  libvcl.dylib0x0001070bb171 SVMain() + 17
17  libsofficeapp.dylib 0x0001056ea7d8 soffice_main + 136
18  org.openoffice.script   0x0001054cfeb0 main + 16
19  org.openoffice.script   0x0001054cfe94 start + 52

Thread 1:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fffc589fbf2 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fffc598b7fa _pthread_cond_wait + 
712
2   libuno_sal.dylib.3  0x000105505474 0x1054d2000 + 210036
3   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fffc598a93b _pthread_body + 180
4   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fffc598a887 _pthread_start + 286
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fffc598a08d thread_start + 13

Thread 2:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fffc598a070 start_wqthread + 0
1   ??? 0x7fffcaa7b9a8 vtable for 
TDataReference + 16

Thread 3:
0   libsyst

all files open as read-only

[James Pesout]

After installing Open Office version 4.1.8 every time I open a file it's
categorized as a read-only file.

To edit any of my files I have to open them as a copy, edit them, and then
save them with a new name.

The next time I open that file, it opens as a read only file.

I'm using a Windows 10 platform on a 64 bit system.

I've uninstalled 4.1.8 and reinstalled it but the problem persists.

Thanks for your advice.


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Open Office problem

[James Geddie]

Hi,
I've been using Open Office for a number of years and been very pleased with it 
until a couple of day's ago, now every time I try and open a document I get the 
message as per the attached asking if I want to recover the document. I've 
uninstalled version 4.1.5 and installed 4.1.7 but it makes no difference I 
still get the same message. Any help to sort this out please.
Kind regards
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Impress sound file format is not supported - Impress Klang Format wird nicht unterstützt

[James T. Kirk]

Liebe Community,

ich erhalte beim Versuch eine Klangdatei (.wav oder .mp3) in eine 
Präsentation einzufügen immer die Fehlermeldung "Das Format der 
ausgewählten Datei wird nicht unterstützt". Die Klangdatei läßt sich 
problemlos mit VLC öffnen und abspielen (OS ist "macOS Catalina Version 
10.15.4", OpenOffice Version 4.1.7). Hat hier wohl jemand noch einen Tip 
für mich?


Dear Community,

while i am trying to import sound files in OpenOffice Impress i always 
get the information that the file format (.waw, .mp3) is not supported. 
But the sound file can be easily opened and played the the VLC player. I 
am using macOS Catalina 10.15.4 and OpenOffice 4.1.7. Is anybody here 
who can help me?




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Re: Found an issue in left indent in OpenOffice Writer

[Binny James]

Hi Peter,

Thank you for your response.
Just wanted to note this case that's all. Around last 10 years I am 
using Open Office in office as well as for my personal use, so shall 
stick in Open Office itself.


Regards
Binny

On 2/17/2020 4:45 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi Binny,


I thought I wrote an answer. Well never mind.

I have created a bug report for you:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128294

I linked the report to this thread for credits, but I guess you do not 
care.


Thank you for your report, anyhow. Sorry for the fuzz.


All the Best

Peter

Am 17.02.20 um 08:40 schrieb Binny James:

Hi all,

Thank you for your quick responses.

What I asked is about a scenario, but got colorful responses, hahaha. I
have Microsoft Word as well in one of my PCs, found they don't allow 
left
indent once it reach the home place of a line. But here it is 
different and
reported to your team, don't want you blunt. I am also working in 
customer

service in an IT company. I really don't respond like this in my
experience. Actually I asked about an issue before around 4 years back,
that time really your team responded very nice and asked me to go 
ahead to

a later version and I did. Now I don't want your application and I shall
choose Libre Office.

Regards
Binny

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:40 PM Martin Groenescheij 


wrote:


On 14/02/2020 08:21, Binny James wrote:

Hi,

Found an issue in left indent.
Steps:
1. Launch Open Office Writer

2. Read the manual
3. Learn to work with Styles


2. Type a text.

4. Type text

3. Click on 'Decrease indent' from toolbar button.

Why do you need to Decrease indent if you already at the left margin?

Result:
The typed text is indented left out of the editor.

You get what your asked for.

Expected Result:
Should not indent once the text is left most of the editor.

Wrong expectation

Version Details: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3

You should always use the most recent version

Sincerely
Binny


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Re: Found an issue in left indent in OpenOffice Writer

[Binny James]

Hi all,

Thank you for your quick responses.

What I asked is about a scenario, but got colorful responses, hahaha. I
have Microsoft Word as well in one of my PCs, found they don't allow left
indent once it reach the home place of a line. But here it is different and
reported to your team, don't want you blunt. I am also working in customer
service in an IT company. I really don't respond like this in my
experience. Actually I asked about an issue before around 4 years back,
that time really your team responded very nice and asked me to go ahead to
a later version and I did. Now I don't want your application and I shall
choose Libre Office.

Regards
Binny

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:40 PM Martin Groenescheij 
wrote:

> On 14/02/2020 08:21, Binny James wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Found an issue in left indent.
> > Steps:
> > 1. Launch Open Office Writer
>
> 2. Read the manual
> 3. Learn to work with Styles
>
> > 2. Type a text.
> 4. Type text
> > 3. Click on 'Decrease indent' from toolbar button.
> Why do you need to Decrease indent if you already at the left margin?
> > Result:
> > The typed text is indented left out of the editor.
> You get what your asked for.
> > Expected Result:
> > Should not indent once the text is left most of the editor.
> Wrong expectation
> >
> > Version Details: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3
> You should always use the most recent version
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Found an issue in left indent in OpenOffice Writer

[Binny James]

Hi,

Found an issue in left indent.
Steps:
1. Launch Open Office Writer
2. Type a text.
3. Click on 'Decrease indent' from toolbar button.
Result:
The typed text is indented left out of the editor.
Expected Result:
Should not indent once the text is left most of the editor.

Version Details: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3

Sincerely
Binny


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open office did not install properly on windows 10 computer, will not let me uninstall , how do I get it off my computer

[James REED]

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

corrupted.....Apache Open Office Spreadsheet.......(Text Import)

[James Jenkins]

I recently open my file in "Apache Openoffice Spreadsheet", I've had 
this file over a couple years, it worked perfectly, and now another 
files has red wavy lines as if there not spelled correctly:


_when I open I get "Text Import":_

        TEXT IMPORT ...unicode, default English USA

        FROM...Row 1

        SEPARATED BY...semicolon, space,  text delimiter

        OTHER OPTIONS...(nothing here)

        FIELDS...gray and a  # (1)

This started (I think) when I used the Tool-Bar (reverse input arrow), I 
used it 3-4 times


As I was emailing this to you, I tried to open my four other spreadsheet 
files that I use every day for over a couple years... now there not 
opening.  Need help One of these file goes to my doctor 
regarding my health condition, and the other is business related. The 
more I tried to open.now the Open Office "Start Bar" will not 
openprogressively getting worse the more I attempt to open the 
spreadsheet the worse it gets.


James L. Jenkins

[AOO-Templates]

[James Johnson]

I can't seem to logon to my account. Error message says "Unable to send e-mail. 
Contact the site administrator if the problem persists"

I would greatly appreciate a reply.

Thank You
James

Tabs

[James Wheeler]

Good evening. 
I have a document that I’m trying to set the tabs in ten specific locations. I 
set them with the mouse, then double click the ruler, paragraph, tabs, 
centered, then ok.  On the left side under position, it shows the ten tab 
placement measurements. When I go back to the document, the tabs appear, then 
when in a different location within the document, the generic tabs show back up 
again. The tabs come and go. How can I get the tabs to stay in place 
permanently in this document?  It’s extremely frustrating. 

Thanks,
Jim 
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Database Wizard

[James Wheeler]

I have recently purchased a new computer and installed OpenOffice. It’s asking 
me if I want to create a new database or use an existing?  I have a thumb drive 
full of documents that are in OpenOffice format and all that I want to do is 
plug in the thumb drive and continue working on the files that are already 
there. What is the simplest way to set this program up?

Thanks,
Jim   
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Discarded changes to document

[James Rocco]

I inadvertently hit the discard button when closing a document.
Therefore I lost all changes to. Document is there any way to retrieve it
in other words once I hit this card do I lose all those changes forever
there's got to be a way to recover that please help I lost five days of
typing

can I download open office onto a netbook using windows 10s

[james allen]

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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Open Office lists EVERY word as misspelled

[James M. Keane]

 I normally use the system with 'Correct as you type', but starting today Every 
Word in my documents has the red squiggles of misspellings.I downloaded the 
newest version 4.1.6 but it does not help.I had tried checking every word and 
adding it to the dictionary, but that can take weeks to accomplish.I would 
appreciate any help you can give me.Thank you.James M. 
keanejimkeane...@yahoo.com

Problem opening files on Macbook

[Robert James]

Hi,

My username is BobJames40

I used to be able to write and open files with OpenOffice software, although I 
don’t use it very much.  I cannot remember the last time I used it 
successfully, but it was probably before I upgraded the MacBook to High Sierra. 
I am now running version 10.13.5.  I have version 4.1.5 of OpenOffice.  My 
MacBook is a mid 2010 model.
I log on as the Administrator when using my MacBook.  When I try to open a file 
the OpenOffice icon appears in the Dock with the small dot flashing underneath, 
but after a few seconds it disappears and the file does not open. The same 
thing happens if I try to open from the OpenOffice icon in the Applications 
folder.
Having looked at some of the help on your forum I noticed a comment about 
logging on as a Guest user.  I set this up (not having done this before) and I 
find that I can use OpenOffice this way.
I do not understand why I cannot use OpenOffice when logged on as the 
Administrator.  Can you suggest how I can overcome this problem, please?

Bob James
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Re: OTS file not opening

[james mcauliffe]

Thanks Martin,

I had a number of emails with Brian. I meant ODS file, unfortunately my file is 
corrupted and I did not have automatic backup on in my settings so have lost 
the file.

Sent from my iPad

On 2 Apr 2018, at 8:02 pm, Martin Groenescheij 
<mar...@groenescheij.com<mailto:mar...@groenescheij.com>> wrote:



On 02/04/18 11:42 AM, james mcauliffe wrote:

Hello


our OTS files are not opening, each time they try and convert to an OTD file 
and open in document rather than spreadsheet.

OTS files are spreadsheet templates see the wiki page 
here<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openoffice.org%2Fwiki%2FDocumentation%2FOOoAuthors_User_Manual%2FGetting_Started%2FFile_formats=02%7C01%7C%7C7693beac84e74f767f4508d59880cd2e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636582601317871632=Ekr2ThpqRzvN7HjF5RShzl5aXhVI3inKMqn3YwOe%2Bvw%3D=0>
 and templates are never opened but rather used to created a new
document with the properties of the template. If the template itself was used 
you basically overwrite the template.


Any idea why this is happening?

The first thing come into my mind is that some user (maybe you) have given the 
file the wrong extension.



regards

James


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OTS file not opening

[james mcauliffe]

Hello


our OTS files are not opening, each time they try and convert to an OTD file 
and open in document rather than spreadsheet. Any idea why this is happening?


regards

James


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Re: open office reinstall - lost to computer repair

[James Knott]

Installing it on a Mac requires additional steps.  I don't have a Mac,
so I can't advise on that.  However, someone else here should be able to
help.

On 02/04/2018 12:59 PM, susan leelike wrote:
> OpenOffice” can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
> OpenOffice” is on the disk image
> “Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg”. Firefox
> downloaded this disk image today at 12:50 PM from sourceforge.net.
>
> THIS IS FROM THE LINK YOU JUST SENT
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:57 PM, susan leelike <sleeli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i have am going to try and install it with the new link you sent
>> thank you
>> you have to know that
>> you know what you are doing
>> and i do not
>> computers used to speak english (DOS)
>> it was simplier to use
>> thanks
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:47 PM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As I mentioned, just go to www.openoffice.org and download for free.  I
>>> have no idea where that fee suggestion came from, as I've never seen it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/04/2018 12:43 PM, susan leelike wrote:
>>>> the free open office was available for many years
>>>> about a year ago the free version renewal suggested a fee (i'd have to
>>> look
>>>> at what it was, something like $25)
>>>> and over the years the program did change (as everything else does).
>>>> when my computer was repaired they not provide all of the programs i
>>> had on
>>>> it - adobe reader and open office
>>>> being two that i use a lot.
>>>> and since the last time i updated open office there was a fee, i do not
>>>> want to pay another fee to reinstall it.
>>>> every improvement of the computer takes me further out of the picture.
>>> i
>>>> guess i am a true luddite and do not
>>>> find any robotic improvements to be beneficial to humans.
>>>>
>>>> SO HERE'S THE QUESTION
>>>> i just want to reinstall open office
>>>> where do i go
>>>> what do i do
>>>> i am a hater of apps, twitter and all of that
>>>> i am also 80
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> You don't have to pay for OpenOffice.  It's a free download from
>>>>> www.openoffice.org.  I don't know who you paid for OpenOffice, but
>>> there
>>>>> are many who charge for what is a free download.  Some load it with
>>>>> "crapware" or claim this user mail list is "support".  It's not.  We're
>>>>> users, just like you.  However, we do try to help others.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/04/2018 11:40 AM, susan leelike wrote:
>>>>>> users@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When my computer was repaired a new drive was installed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not only did I lose my old gmail account
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also lost my PAID FOR open office program
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I want to do is reinstall it so I can get back to work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is getting stupid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sleeli...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>


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Re: open office reinstall - lost to computer repair

[James Knott]

As I mentioned, just go to www.openoffice.org and download for free.  I
have no idea where that fee suggestion came from, as I've never seen it.


On 02/04/2018 12:43 PM, susan leelike wrote:
> the free open office was available for many years
> about a year ago the free version renewal suggested a fee (i'd have to look
> at what it was, something like $25)
> and over the years the program did change (as everything else does).
> when my computer was repaired they not provide all of the programs i had on
> it - adobe reader and open office
> being two that i use a lot.
> and since the last time i updated open office there was a fee, i do not
> want to pay another fee to reinstall it.
> every improvement of the computer takes me further out of the picture.  i
> guess i am a true luddite and do not
> find any robotic improvements to be beneficial to humans.
>
> SO HERE'S THE QUESTION
> i just want to reinstall open office
> where do i go
> what do i do
> i am a hater of apps, twitter and all of that
> i am also 80
>
> thanks
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> You don't have to pay for OpenOffice.  It's a free download from
>> www.openoffice.org.  I don't know who you paid for OpenOffice, but there
>> are many who charge for what is a free download.  Some load it with
>> "crapware" or claim this user mail list is "support".  It's not.  We're
>> users, just like you.  However, we do try to help others.
>>
>>
>> On 02/04/2018 11:40 AM, susan leelike wrote:
>>> users@openoffice.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When my computer was repaired a new drive was installed
>>>
>>> Not only did I lose my old gmail account
>>>
>>> I also lost my PAID FOR open office program
>>>
>>> All I want to do is reinstall it so I can get back to work
>>>
>>> This is getting stupid
>>>
>>>
>>> sleeli...@gmail.com
>>>
>>


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Re: open office reinstall - lost to computer repair

[James Knott]

You don't have to pay for OpenOffice.  It's a free download from
www.openoffice.org.  I don't know who you paid for OpenOffice, but there
are many who charge for what is a free download.  Some load it with
"crapware" or claim this user mail list is "support".  It's not.  We're
users, just like you.  However, we do try to help others.


On 02/04/2018 11:40 AM, susan leelike wrote:
> users@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
>
> When my computer was repaired a new drive was installed
>
> Not only did I lose my old gmail account
>
> I also lost my PAID FOR open office program
>
> All I want to do is reinstall it so I can get back to work
>
> This is getting stupid
>
>
> sleeli...@gmail.com
>


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Re: Question

[James Knott]

On 02/03/2018 02:19 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:
> That would delete the file off the system, not delete the file from
> the AOO recently used file list. I am not sure that is what the OP
> wants to do.
>

Items in the recent files will eventually be replaced by more recent
files.  No need to delete them.


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Re: Question

[James Knott]

One method is to use File > Open to find the file.  Then right click on
it and select delete.  That works for me, at least on Linux.


On 02/02/2018 10:30 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>
>
> On 03/02/18 12:05 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:
>> Kathleen,
>>
>> I am assuming you are concerned about the files listed in File ->
>> Recent Documents as your "...folder icon in Open Office". Unless
>> someone else here knows more, from my experience one cannot delete
>> one file from the file list in File -> Recent Documents. I believe
>> there are two ways to clear all files from this list, but both will
>> clear the entire list and one would have to start over to get a new
>> list without the file you no longer want. Here are the two methods I
>> can think of:
>>
>> 1. "clear" the user profile as described over and over again on this
>> list. But that would clear out everything you have configured AOO for.
>>
>> 2. Use File -> Recent Documents and at the bottom of the list, there
>> is the option "Clear List". Click on that and the entire file history
>> list should then be blank. Of course, you will have to then add the
>> files you do want by opening them.
>
> Easier to remove the Recent Documents from the File menu under Tools
> -> Customize
>
>>
>> Note also, that this file list is limited to N number of files, where
>> N is 10 in my AOO. As new files are accessed, the oldest files over N
>> are removed. Therefore, you could use this "feature" to remove the
>> file you don't want, by adding new different files until the unwanted
>> file is scrolled off the bottom.
>
> If you want to see more history with the ability to remove individual
> entries download the Oblivion extension
>
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> Girvin Herr
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/02/2018 04:41 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>
 On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:21 pm, Kathleen Q
  wrote:

 How can I delete a text document I do not want listed on my folder
 icon in Open Office?
>>> OpenOffice is an application to create and maintain office documents.
>>>
 Sometimes I write a text or letter whichever you want to call it
 and do not need to keep it anymore. I see no delete option.
>>> You have your Operating System to do the house cleaning.
>>>
 Please advise?Kathleen Quinlan
>>>
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Re: Possible Fraudulent Seller

[James Knott]

On 01/02/2018 02:39 PM, Robert Alvord wrote:
> Hello.  I'm a big fan of your Open Office software and have used it
> occasionally for personal work.  I just ran into a seller's site on Amazon
> who is making money off your work, but I wasn't sure if it was legit.  I
> thought I would bring it to your attention.
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/Markt-Technik/b/ref=bl_dp_s_web_15352299011?ie=UTF8=15352299011_brands_browse-bin=Markt%2BTechnik
>


It's not illegal to sell copies of OpenOffice.  In fact, selling it on a
CD is a useful service for those who cannot download it.  However, some
load it up with crapware.  Also, what is "Premium Edition"?  Another
issue is those who promise support and then send their customers here.

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Re: Userid and problem

[James Knott]

On 12/22/2017 09:01 AM, Larryloretta Sherlock wrote:
> Hi Tony, thanks for your response but soffice isn't my problem. Somehow 
> microsoft has attached their Word to my files which won't allow me to open my 
> files unless I sign up and buy Microsoft Office/Word.

Someone must have installed MS software, hijacking your app
preferences.  You can reset this, but the exact method depends on the
version of Windows you're running.  For example in Windows 10, you go
into PC Settings and select Apps > Default Apps and then click on the
file type, e.g. .doc, and then select the app to use.

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Printing

[Nancy James]

We cannot print in color. Even when the monitor shows color, it prints in black 
and white. My printer is an HP Office 4650. 
Please help!

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Re: Panic! Accidentally saved over a document

[James Knott]

On 12/02/2017 04:25 PM, John Hart wrote:
> On 12/1/2017 2:37 PM, Elias Skogqvist wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I was using another document as a template and was gonna press "save
>> as" to
>> save the new document alone. But I accidentally pressed save and now the
>> first document is gone! Im close to crying right now
>>
>> How can I get the first document back
>>
>> Please help!
> The original probably exists on the hard drive, but it's more
> difficult to retrieve than
> a file that was deleted. A file retrieval program such as Photorec
> might be able to do it,
> but don't save files on the computer until it's recovered or it could
> be overwritten.
> It's best when using any file as a template to save it with the new
> name before making
> any changes.
>

Or make it read only.  However, there is something called "Templates" in
OO.  If you save templates there, you don't have to worry about overwriting.

As for recovering the original, it may still be on the disk, but marked
as deleted.  There are disk utilities that can find deleted files that
have not actually been overwritten.  Avoid writing anything to that
disk, until a recovery has been attempted.


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Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

+1

On 11/17/2017 07:32 PM, Mike wrote:
> Exactly!  He can discuss OO without proselytising his religion.  I
> also find it offensive, intrusive and irritating.
>
> Mike Shearer
>
> On 18/11/2017 9:41 am, John Hart wrote:
>> On 11/17/2017 5:11 AM, James Knott wrote:
>>>> God bless you!
>>> I find that offensive.  Religion is delusion, which has no place in the
>>> real world.
>> Just because you have a defective concept of God, is no reason for
>> starting
>> a flame war on this list. He provided links that may or not be relevant,
>> comments about them are useful, discussions about religion have no
>> place in this list!
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

On 11/17/2017 06:41 PM, John Hart wrote:
> discussions about religion have no place in this list!

And that is why he shouldn't have included his comment in the first place!


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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

The proper response to that is not suitable for use in a public forum. 
However, we can start with absolute BS.  Please keep that BS to yourself.


On 11/17/2017 09:36 AM, zahra a wrote:
> the religions are for salvation and prosperity of mankind.
> the message of islam is mercy for entire creation.
>
> On 11/17/17, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com> wrote:
>> On 11/16/2017 07:28 PM, Chuck Davis wrote:
>>> I just installed yesterday on openSUSE Tumbleweed with no problems.
>> I'm on Leap 42.3.
>>
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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

On 11/16/2017 07:28 PM, Chuck Davis wrote:
> I just installed yesterday on openSUSE Tumbleweed with no problems.

I'm on Leap 42.3.


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Re: Problems with Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US

[James Knott]

On 11/17/2017 02:08 AM, zahra a wrote:
> hello.
> i did not think that linux like mac needs to install signed programs!
> i searched for you in google and found these two links about
> installing unsigned programs on linux.
> hear you are the links, hope that help, 
I'm running openSUSE, but I don't think the check is used in the same
way as a Mac, but rather just ensuring it came from where it claims to be.

> God bless you!
I find that offensive.  Religion is delusion, which has no place in the
real world.


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Re: Question!

[James Knott]

On 11/08/2017 05:07 PM, Ron wrote:
> I have Open Office on my desktop PC.  If I want to put in on my
>
> Laptop,  do I have to buy it again??
>

You never have to buy it.  It's always a free download from
www.openoffice.org.  And you can install it on as many computers as you
want and give it away to others too.

I hope you didn't pay for just a download.  Some people sell what you
can get for free and then point the purchasers here for support.


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Re: Hi OpenOffice.org - General Support question

[James Knott]

I believe the question was about Microsoft Works files, not Office.  I
don't know that OO can open Works files.


On 10/17/2017 08:03 AM, zahra a wrote:
> hello.
> yes. openoffice supports importing microsoft files, but if you need to
> export as newer format of microsoft office program like docx xlsx pptx
> etc, you need to install libreoffice.
> because openoffice only exports as microsoft office 2003 format, like
> doc, ppt or xls.
>
> hope that help, God bless you!
>
> On 10/17/17, Chris Lark  wrote:
>>
>> Hi OpenOffice.org,
>>
>> Just wanted to ask you this - will your software help me read work I had
>> previously madewith Microsoft Works word processor? Thanks for reading this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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....red wavy lines

[James Jenkins]

I have using Apache OpenOffice for 5 years.  Recently,_all _my words are 
under lines with red wavy lines.  When I cut-paste into Thunderbird, the 
red lines go away...I've tried to correct using the tutorialno luck. 
I  need a quick fix.


James L. Jenkins



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Re: ....red wavy lines

[James Jenkins]

Forgot to mention...using Win 7 Ultimate, Apache OpenOffice ver 4.1.3

James L. Jenkins


On 10/11/2017 11:54 AM, James Jenkins wrote:


I have using Apache OpenOffice for 5 years.  Recently,_all _my words 
are under lines with red wavy lines.  When I cut-paste into 
Thunderbird, the red lines go away...I've tried to correct using the 
tutorialno luck. I  need a quick fix.


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Re: lost documents

[James Knott]

On 10/04/2017 06:11 PM, Rusty wrote:
> To the readerhelp!!
> I really am on my last effort and do not know who else I can ask. My laptop 
> was stolen a couple of weeks ago. I have been using Open Office for quite a 
> few years now and thought that if you got a new computer that once you 
> downloaded OO your saved documents from the old device  would eventually show 
> up on the new one.  My question is how can I locate those documents??? They 
> are very valuable to me...please help
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Ummm... Unless you saved those documents on a network or some other
device, how are they supposed to appear on the new computer?

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Re: Question

[James Knott]

On 09/22/2017 10:04 PM, Heidi S wrote:
> Hello, I recently installed OpenOffice on my computer and was wondering how 
> to set this as the default by which documents open from the internet on my 
> computer. As of now, when I open a file from online, the file attempts to 
> open in Microsoft Office instead of OpenOffice. Thank  you  for the help, I 
> appreciate it,
> Heidi
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>

You can set the default application for various file types.  The details
depend on your operating system.

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Re: Subscription

[James Knott]

On 09/22/2017 07:16 PM, Diane Posell wrote:
> HP signed me up and said that it is free forever.  I want to know if that is 
> correct and if there is a charge how much is it?  I have also started using 
> it and find it a little difficult to navigate.  The screen said that I have a 
> 14 day trial version.I need to figure out how to highlight a print area that 
> isn't an entire sheet and to get my worksheet back to "normal" from a little 
> tiny schedule in the upper left hand corner.  I don't know what made it 
> change but the format changed to small type and a very large sheet and my 
> section is tiny.  I'm sure that it is as easy to navigate as Excel, once I 
> understand all of the commands.  I tried to find help, but nothing sounded 
> like what I needed.  Do I have to pay for a technician to help me through it? 
>  Will the Help Agent be of assistance ?  I was signed up on September 21, 
> 2017.Jean posell526-984-3728dianepos...@yahoo.com

I'm not sure what they gave you or what the trial version is, but
OpenOffice is a free office suite that you can install and use on as
many computers as you wish, at absolutely no charge.  You can download
it for free from www.openoffice.org.


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Re: Value

[James Knott]

On 09/19/2017 09:51 PM, jonathon wrote:
> On 09/18/2017 12:51 PM, James Knott wrote:
>> On 09/18/2017 06:18 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>>> It runs on all versions of Windows.
>> 3.1?  ;-)
> That depends upon which version of which DOS clone one uses.
>
> I don't know if it was ever publicly released, but Novel did beta test a
> version of DrDOS that, when run with either WFWG or Win 3.0, gave the
> setup the functional equivalent to Windows 95.
>
>

I don't recall that.  Way back then, I was at IBM Canada, supporting
OS/2, Windows 95 and NT, with some DOS stuff thrown in too.  With 16 bit
Windows, which includes everything up to Windows moron edition, but not
NT, 2000 etc., DOS was actually used for very little.  Most of the
functionality of Windows came from Windows.  I do recall that DR-DOS was
superior to MS-DOS in many ways and that Gary Kildall proved in court
that MS-DOS contained some "borrowed" CP/M code.


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Re: Value

[James Knott]

On 09/18/2017 06:18 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> It runs on all versions of Windows.

3.1?  ;-)


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Re: Value

[James Knott]

On 09/18/2017 05:35 AM, smit...@tpg.com.au wrote:
> Hello
>
> Is the Apache Open Office really free?
>
> If things look to good to be true, they most likely are.
>
> Will it work on Windows 10, ryzen 5 1400, 8 gig memory?
>
>

Yes it is free to use on as many computers as you wish.  You can use it
for personal or business purposes.  Yes, it runs on Windows 10.

Just make sure you download it from www.openoffice.org, as there are
some sites where they'll charge you for it or load it with crapware.


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Re: transfers

[James Knott]

On 09/07/2017 03:02 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 03:55:50 +
> Don Greenwell  wrote:
>
>> I got a new computer, but my open office has many treasured documents, 
>> how do I transfer the open office on my current computer desk top to my 
>> new computer desktop???
>> Sincerely, Don Greenwell, PT
>>
> On the new computer download and make a fresh install of OpenOffice; move 
> existing data files from one computer to the other using a USB key (or 
> network) being careful to observe USB removal protocols.  If in doubt seek 
> informed local help/supervision.
>

Actually, the normal process is to copy everything from your home
directory to the new system.  This should copy over all your data,
settings etc., for all apps.  The details will vary with the operating
system you're using.  Applications, such as OO, should be installed
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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

[James Knott]

On 08/23/2017 03:30 PM, PG wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. Maybe I did not make myself clear, I know there is no 
> e-mail app etc,  I have two e-mail programs either one of which I would like 
> to use to send an OpenOffice document. What I need is the instruction on how 
> to make that happen. The OpenOffice site offers no help. Thanks PG

Install the app, such as Thunderbird.  Then, ensure it's the default app
in Windows.  It should then be automatically selected when you try to
email a document.

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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

[James Knott]

On 08/23/2017 03:48 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 15:41 23/08/2017 -0400, James Knott wrote:
>> What operating system are you running?
>
> I wonder if the enquirer's "Sent from Mail for Windows 10" gives a clue?
>
> ;^)
>

I've never used Mail.  On my W10 virtual machine, I have Thunderbird and
when I email a document from OO, Thunderbird automagically opens a
compose window.


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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

[James Knott]

On 08/23/2017 03:30 PM, PG wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. Maybe I did not make myself clear, I know there is no 
> e-mail app etc,  I have two e-mail programs either one of which I would like 
> to use to send an OpenOffice document. What I need is the instruction on how 
> to make that happen. The OpenOffice site offers no help. Thanks PG
>

What operating system are you running?


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Re: apply e-mail program to OpenOffice documents

[James Knott]

On 08/23/2017 02:50 PM, PG wrote:
> I have looked at pretty much all your site for information on HOW to install 
> on e-mail program into OpenOffice. When I follow the limited instructions I 
> found all I get is “no e-mail program installed” None of your forums appear 
> to give any importance to this issue. All I want to do is e-mail a created 
> document to an e-mail contact. Please advise. PG
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>

There is no email app for OpenOffice.  You use whatever email app is
installed on your computer.  Many people use Thunderbird.

When you have an email app installed, you can use it to send documents.


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Re: some questions about openoffice writer:

[James Knott]

On 08/18/2017 04:34 AM, zahra a wrote:
> hello every one.
> i have some questions about using openoffice writer and wish that
> someone can help me.
> first, i dont have any pdf reader.
> because they are not accessible for blind users and also they dont
> support persian language very well.
> how should i open my pdf books using openoffice?
>

I think you have a misunderstanding of what OpenOffice does.  While it
can create PDF files, it's not intended to be used as a PDF reader.

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Spreadsheet single cell (word) replacement

[James Jenkins]

I have made my spread sheet (I've made many, new problem).  I need to 
replace a single word in cells, the wood "side" with "time".no 
matter what cell I go into...every time, it will not replace.  I've 
tried every thingno luck.


James Jenkins


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Re: CANCELLATION

[James Knott]

On 06/30/2017 11:54 AM, TN Patriot wrote:
> It's sad and disheartening. Years ago when it was Microslop 2000 and older
>   OS's on most systems, I was the person in my town who made housecalls to fix
>   peoples' computers. I can honestly say that in the 3 years I did that, I 
> swear
>   by all the gods, that at *least* 75% of the people that I called 'customers'
>   should not have owned a computer at all, ever. I had over 300 'customers', 
> so
>   do the math.

I've run into similar.  I have a friend who insists she knows how to use
a computer properly, but she's clearly clueless about much of it.   I
also used to do support at IBM Canada and had a "fun" users.  One woman
insisted it was OK to just kill the power to the computer when she left
for the day, but couldn't understand why her computer stopped working. 
The disk was filled with all sorts of improperly saved files.

What's worse is people who should no better, but don't.  I come across
this in the company I work for.  We do networks, VoIP, etc.  It's
unbelievable the nonsense one of the owners comes up with.  A recent one
was he claimed turning off the DHCP server in a modem/router was enough
to put it into bridge mode.  He also seems to think that an Ethernet
card can tell what type of cable (CAT5, 6 etc) is connected to it.  He
seems to think that's what determines what speed the NIC works at,
oblivious to the fact the NICs negotiate best speed & mode.  He also
seems to think some Ethernet switches don't handle VoIP properly.  Well,
switches don't know anything about VoIP or even IP.  They simply pass
Ethernet frames, without regard to content (the exception being VLANs,
on managed switches, with CoS set).  But this guy's one of the owners...

Still though, it wouldn't hurt to include that link in the sigs, so that
when someone complains about OO, we can tell them to read the article.

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Re: CANCELLATION

[James Knott]

On 06/30/2017 03:10 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> See http://s.apache.org/genuine-openoffice since it likely applies to
> your case.

Perhaps that link, along with a brief message, should be included in the
list sig.


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Re: Transferring documents

[James Knott]

There are a couple of ways.  The easiest is to use a USB drive.  Copy
the files from the Documents folder on the old computer to the drive and
to the Documents folder on the new computer.  If you have a network, you
can use file sharing to do the same in one step.


On 06/27/2017 09:24 PM, Lynette Hazelwood wrote:
> I purchased a new laptop. How do I get my documents from my old laptop to my 
> new one
>
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Re: Open Office for MacBook

[James Plante]

Jill,
Go to http://www.openoffice.org; click the second choice (“I want to download 
Apache OpenOffice”)
The next page of the website will detect the type of browser you’re using, and 
offer the correct download.
Since I’m using an iMac with the latest MacOS, it offers me OS X (version >= 
10.7) (DMG), in English (US), and version 4.1.3
Select the button marked “Download full version”
Walk away. Don’t click anything else. your file will download to your 
“Downloads” folder as a .dmg file unless you’ve done something to alter the 
destination of downloaded files. 

After the download is complete (it’ll take a while), open the Downloads folder 
and double-click the .dmg file. The program will be extracted, the web page 
will take you to a different place, again offering a download button: LEAVE 
THIS PAGE ALONE. DON’T CLICK ANYTHING. Wait until a window appears showing 
“OpenOffice” in the title bar. The top line of icons shows OpenOffice.app and 
an alias to your Applications folder. Drag the OpenOffice.app icon to the 
Applications folder. 

When you click on the newly-installed OpenOffice.app, you’ll run headlong into 
Gatekeeper. Gatekeeper keeps you safe from malware and other bad stuff. But 
it’s a digital hemorrhoid. It’ll tell you AOo is an app it doesn’t recognize, 
and it won’t allow it to open. Just Command-click on the OpenOffice.app icon 
and tell it to open anyway.

Hope this helps,

Jim Plante
> On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Jill Melanie Wirth  wrote:
> 
> Hello ~ I have used Open Office 3.4.1 on my Mac OS X version 10.6.8
> I just bought a new Mac OS Sierra, version 10.12.5
> I would like to download Open Office on this computer.
> Please tell me what version to choose.
> Thank you very much for your help.
> All the Best,
> Jill Wirth


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Re: New NeoOffice issue

[James Knott]

Sorry, I don't.  I have never used NeoOffice.  However, there is an Mac
version of OpenOffice.


On 06/17/2017 11:40 AM, mark wrote:
> I cannot find a contact link at their website.  Do you know one?
>
>
>> On Jun 17, 2017, at 8:37 AM, James Knott <james.kn...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is the OpenOffice mail list, not NeoOffice.  While NeoOffice is
>> based on OpenOffice, perhaps you should be contacting them.  Also, you
>> didn't have to pay for anything.  OpenOffice is available for free from
>> www.openoffice.org.
>>
>>
>> On 06/17/2017 11:19 AM, mark wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For years, my friend has been using NeoOffice on his iMac.  I just replaced 
>>> his iMac with new (Sierra).  We purchased the new version from Apple Store. 
>>>  He immediately found a problem with the ‘Open Document’ feature:  He can 
>>> click on the ‘Open Document” and it will open his path choice once.  After 
>>> he has either cancelled or selected a file, subsequent clicking on the 
>>> ‘Open Document’ feature does nothing.  He must quit NeoOffice then re-open. 
>>>  Out of frustration, I purchased and downloaded the classic version and 
>>> obtained the same result.  
>>>
>>> What could cause this issue?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> M Mayhew
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Re: New NeoOffice issue

[James Knott]

This is the OpenOffice mail list, not NeoOffice.  While NeoOffice is
based on OpenOffice, perhaps you should be contacting them.  Also, you
didn't have to pay for anything.  OpenOffice is available for free from
www.openoffice.org.


On 06/17/2017 11:19 AM, mark wrote:
> Hello,
>
> For years, my friend has been using NeoOffice on his iMac.  I just replaced 
> his iMac with new (Sierra).  We purchased the new version from Apple Store.  
> He immediately found a problem with the ‘Open Document’ feature:  He can 
> click on the ‘Open Document” and it will open his path choice once.  After he 
> has either cancelled or selected a file, subsequent clicking on the ‘Open 
> Document’ feature does nothing.  He must quit NeoOffice then re-open.  Out of 
> frustration, I purchased and downloaded the classic version and obtained the 
> same result.  
>
> What could cause this issue?
>
> Thank you,
>
> M Mayhew
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Re: Urgent need to save doc...

[James Plante]

Celeste, please see comments within your message below:
> On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Celeste Cantor-Stephens 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi support team,
> 
> I'm in need of some quite urgent help...
> 
> OpenOffice has just crashed on my laptop. I'm using a mac air, and see the
> turning, coloured circle when I go to Open Office.
Yes, AOO has crashed. Now which version are you using? 4.1.3?

> The OpenOffice word
(OpenOffice Writer. Word is a Microsoft program)

> document I have been working on - previously saved to my computer (mac air)
> and external hard-drive - had a notification about lack of space.
Can you be more specific? A “notification about lack of space” where? Lack of 
memory (RAM)? or lack of hard disk space?

> Because I
> opened extra OpenOffice docs (from the dock) I can't see it any more.
Since AOO is locked up, you can’t do anything with them anyway. 

> I've
> deleted files and closed everything but OpenOffice. The document I am
> working on - which contains my master's thesis - due to be submitted in
> under a month!! - has disappeared from folders on my computer. As soon as
> it crashed I tried to move copies on my hard-drive, which was probably a
> mistake because that particular file seems to have gone from there too. I
> don't want to force OpenOffice to close because I absolutely can't loose
> this work!
You might as well force quit it. It’s hung up and you can’t operate it anyhow. 

> Please advise... I hope that all makes sense…
Here’s what I advise: Force quit AOO. Search through your files using the 
Finder and/or Spotlight. If you locate them, copy them to a thumb drive. If you 
*don’t* locate the files, and IF you’ve activated Time Machine, your problem is 
probably already solved. Just retrieve yesterday’s version, and you won’t have 
so much to re-do. If it were *my* master’s thesis, I’d copy all relevant data 
to iCloud and DropBox; make a thumb drive copy; and have AOO set to do 
automatic backups every 30 minutes. Do the off-site and thumb drive backup once 
per day. 

If you don’t locate those files, and haven’t activated Time Machine, then get 
to work: You still have a month. 

> 
> Huge thanks in advance,
> 
> Celeste


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Re: Insert Special Character Function:

[James Knott]

On 04/19/2017 04:39 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:48:07 -0700
> Martin Rosenfeld  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does Apache Open Office have a function to allow insertion into text of 
>> a special character, even from another font? For example, what if I want 
>> an em dash or a euro symbol, characters for which there is no keyboard 
>> method of selecting?
>>
>> I am using AOO in OS/2, but the question should still be valid.
> /Insert /Special character should do what you want.
>
> For euro symbol, try AltGr $ to get €
>

I have my computers configured to use the English International layout. 
It has many "special" characters.  With it, the € is AltGr 5.  AltGr $
produces the ¤ symbol.


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Re: Transferring Data from Other Sheet

[James Plante]

Select sheet 1. Select cell C5. Type “=“ (no quotes). Now, select sheet 2. 
Select C8. Hit return to accept. You should be back in sheet 1, and cell C5 
should be showing the value or text that is in sheet2:C8. 

Jim Plante

> On Apr 8, 2017, at 2:41 PM, VinceB.  wrote:
> 
> Using Calc:AOO413m1(Build:9783)  -  Rev. 1761381 2016-09-29 02:39:19 on 
> desktop Win10 PC.
> 
> I am trying  To Reference a Cell in the Same Document, but from two separate 
> sheets.
> 
> That is, I want to duplicate the value contained in cell C8 of my sheet 2 
> into cell C5 of my sheet 1.
> 
> Getting err:501  or err:509.
> 
> 
> Please advise how this should be done. I suspect that I am missing quotation 
> marks or something.
> 
> VinceB.
> 
> 
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Printing multiple sheets on one page

[Ray James]

Can I print multiple sheets on one page? The sheets I have take up only 
the upper quadrant of a page. I would like to fit four sheets on one 
page. Can this be done?


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Re: CRASH

[James Plante]

If it were mine, I’d try to go around it. Open your problem chart. Then open a 
new blank spreadsheet. Select your chart, and choose Select all (Ctrl-A). Copy. 
Then select the new spreadsheet document and paste. Try modifying the 
newly-created document.

Hope that works for you.

Jim

> On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Ray Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sirs, I have been using Open Office for several years now with no 
> problems…until now… I updated a chart that I had saved and when I went to 
> click on save as everything locked up and I could do nothing except manually 
> shut my computer down. This happened four times. I cannot save the updated 
> chart.
> When I restarted my computer manually and tried to update the same chart I 
> get a crash notice and info was supposedly sent to someone at Open Office. 
> This also happened four times so I have finally given up on updating that 
> chart.. I have been able to update that chart in the past every time with no 
> problems until now.
> Any explanations as to why this is happening? Thanka, Ray
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 


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Re: Malicious Posters

[James Plante]

+1


> On Apr 6, 2017, at 6:20 PM, John Hart  wrote:
> 
> Why do moderators of this list allow malicious posters to ruin it's 
> effectiveness? On 4/6/2017 3:31 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: Get an actual 
> computer and operating system instead of an Apple product. --- On 3/9/2017 
> 5:20 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: You really are a  dumb fuck. --- On 2/26/2017 
> 12:16PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: And yet you've responded twice to my post, 
> which you could have ignored. You apparently do think I care, and lack the 
> self restraint to control yourself. I own you. --- On 2/26/2017 10:38AM, Jim 
> McLaughlin wrote: Imagine how much I care what you think. --- 2017-02-26 
> 18:01 GMT+01:00 Jim McLaughlin Why would Microsoft alter Windows Defender in 
> Win 10 to make use of open source garbage like OO 4.1.3 easier?  You 
> are at best naive. --- On 2/6/2017 1:42 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: I give you 
> a litany of the defects that have plagued OO since at least ver 2.0, 
> unrepaired, and yourr response is personal perjorative insults. --- On 
> 2/6/2017 1:09 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: OO is a bad joke. yaers and years 
> with the same defects, --- On 2/2/2017 10:30 AM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: So you 
> are a dumb shit incapable of receiving advice in th omly manner in which it 
> is offered. --- On 1/29/2017 12:29 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: Yet another 
> instane of a long festering defect in the OO "organization" --- On 1/5/2017 
> 7:19 PM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: SElf proclaimed Apple fanatics like Goeyass 
> are incapable of actually learning. Etc
> 
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Re: Possible Corporate installation

[James Knott]

OO is open source software, which means it's available for anyone to
use, business or not.  This has long been the practice & right for open
source software.

On 03/30/2017 10:32 AM, James Plante wrote:
> I cannot speak for AOO, and I am not an attorney anywhere. What I would do if 
> I were in your position is to print out the AOO license for the version that 
> you’re using; write a statement of your circumstances and what you’ve been 
> asked to do; then take it to a California lawyer, and ask for a letter of 
> opinion. 
>
> Having that letter in your file will give you some ammunition against 
> lawsuits or other enforcement action. That’s the best you can do, since AFAIK 
> there is NO management of AOO that can speak with executive authority with 
> respect to the software. 
>
>
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Russ Hayes <r...@sp-ega.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>>
>> I'm writing to confirm how we can move forward with Open Office for a 
>> project we are working on for the State of California.  We are a 
>> subcontractor to Xerox and are configuring/loading both mobile and fixed 
>> computers for deployment across the state.  They've asked us to install 
>> OpenOffice on each machine prior to delivery to the state throughout the 
>> rest of the year.
>>
>>
>> As an Open Source program, is there any open source agreement we need to 
>> have signed before we move forward with this?  Or, does the download of the 
>> software form the agreement to adhere to Open Source requirements?  Again, 
>> this is a State of CA implementationwe're being extra careful to make 
>> sure we don't run into a problem later on and just wanted to confirm how we 
>> move forward.
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>>
>> Russell A. Hayes
>>
>> Shade and Putnam
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Re: Possible Corporate installation

[James Plante]

I cannot speak for AOO, and I am not an attorney anywhere. What I would do if I 
were in your position is to print out the AOO license for the version that 
you’re using; write a statement of your circumstances and what you’ve been 
asked to do; then take it to a California lawyer, and ask for a letter of 
opinion. 

Having that letter in your file will give you some ammunition against lawsuits 
or other enforcement action. That’s the best you can do, since AFAIK there is 
NO management of AOO that can speak with executive authority with respect to 
the software. 


> On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Russ Hayes  wrote:
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> 
> I'm writing to confirm how we can move forward with Open Office for a project 
> we are working on for the State of California.  We are a subcontractor to 
> Xerox and are configuring/loading both mobile and fixed computers for 
> deployment across the state.  They've asked us to install OpenOffice on each 
> machine prior to delivery to the state throughout the rest of the year.
> 
> 
> As an Open Source program, is there any open source agreement we need to have 
> signed before we move forward with this?  Or, does the download of the 
> software form the agreement to adhere to Open Source requirements?  Again, 
> this is a State of CA implementationwe're being extra careful to make 
> sure we don't run into a problem later on and just wanted to confirm how we 
> move forward.
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> 
> 
> Russell A. Hayes
> 
> Shade and Putnam


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Re: Cannot open a file.

[James Plante]

Won’t cost a damn thing to try, will it?

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Brian Barker <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> At 10:52 26/03/2017 -0500, James Plante wrote:
>> Rory is usually right about things like this, ...
> 
> Perhaps more often than you think.
> 
>> ... but there's one trick you might try. Find that ODT file in Windows 
>> Explorer (or the Finder if on a Mac). Change the file extension from .odt to 
>> .zip, and unzip the file. Open the one named "content". It will have all the 
>> text in it, but none of the formatting.
> 
> Hold on: it has the text but also the formatting - as an XML file. You'd need 
> appropriate software (or a lot of effort) to strip out just the text.
> 
> In any case, when - as here - the user sees nothing but hash marks, the 
> operating system is delivering an empty sector or sectors in place of the 
> document. This will not be a valid zip file and cannot be unzipped.
> 
> Brian Barker 
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Re: Cannot open a file.

[James Plante]

Kevin, 
Rory is usually right about things like this, but there’s one trick you might 
try. Find that ODT file in Windows Explorer (or the Finder if on a Mac). Change 
the file extension from .odt to .zip, and unzip the file. Open the one named 
“content”. It will have all the text in it, but none of the formatting. Copy 
and paste this to a new document and save it under a filename that’s different 
from your original file’s name. Reformat it at your leisure.

Jim Plante

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 2:05 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:30:25 -0700
> Kevin Brown  wrote:
> 
>> I have been using Open Office for a few years and I really enjoy this 
>> program. I have a problem with a certain file I can no longer open, when I 
>> attempt to do so it comes up with all my text being # hashtags and can’t fix 
>> the problem. When the file is clicked it brings up a bar that says ASCII 
>> Filter Options then gives you some options such as Character Set, Default 
>> fonts, language and something at the bottom that says paragraph break which 
>> you can click that says CR & LF, or Cr or LF by itself. I have tried to 
>> operate these options but nothing is working. I just want to get my file 
>> back to working, please let me know something as soon as possible, it will 
>> be greatly appreciated. 
>>  
>>~Kevin Brown
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
> 
> The display of ### and the ASCII filter message indicates that OpenOffice 
> does not now understand the structure of the file.  Unfortunately, this 
> indicates your file is damaged, most probably beyond repair.  If you have a 
> backup, you should revert to this.  
> 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=84056
> 
> This damage may have happened because of a system or program crash, or 
> because of over-hasty powering off of the computer before the internal 
> house-keeping had completed and the hardware/software write buffers had 
> flushed to disk.
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell 
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Re: contact me to help me with apache open office

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 1:30 AM, Martin Groenescheij  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/03/17 3:48 PM, Gene Riddell wrote:
>> my open office is no longer working properly. i cannot force/quit it. i can 
>> be reached after 5pm friday eastern standard time. 7277299749.
> 
> 5 pm in Australia is probably mid night somewhere else, so it would be wise 
> to tell us what Time Zone you are in.
Errr, he did: eastern standard time. That, and the 10-digit phone number, puts 
him on the east coast of the US. Just FYI, the US has four time zones on the 
continent: Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific. I’m sure Australia must 
have at least that many. 

> And if I call 7277299749 in Australia (where I live) I probably get someone 
> on the phone that doesn't know what I'm talking about.
If you get anybody at all, he probably won’t. Does Australia have ten-digit 
phone numbers? 

@Gene Riddell
What type of computer and what operating system are you using? Which version of 
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Re: Determine Five Best Scores

[James Plante]

@Brian: Thank you! I had not seen that function in use before.

@Vince: Take a look in the Help file for another explanation of the LARGE() and 
SMALL() functions. Since you’re keeping track of bowling scores, you might also 
want to take a look at the RANK() function. From your posts, I’m thinking it 
may come in handy later on.

Jim Plante

> On Mar 8, 2017, at 3:30 AM, Brian Barker  wrote:
> 
> At 21:39 07/03/2017 -0500, Vince Bonly wrote:
>> Can someone offer assistance to me to solve a problem, using AOO 4.1.3-CALC 
>> ? I have typically 8 or 9 players in a bowling group ...
> 
> You'll forgive my giggling, but it always amuses me when people write an 
> essay on their life (but which may still not exactly specify the problem) 
> instead of paring their problem down to what they really need!
> 
>> I need to determine the five highest scores from the group of 8 players 
>> after each player finished 3 games of bowling. Is there a function that 
>> would allow determination and display of the five highest scores when 
>> considering 8x3=24 scores ?
> 
> So you need five results from twenty-four values - not the nine you have 
> shown in your example (or fifteen if we extend the idea)?
> 
> Are your values in C3 to E10?
> 
> For your five results, use
> =LARGE(C3:E10;1)
> =LARGE(C3:E10;2)
> =LARGE(C3:E10;3)
> =LARGE(C3:E10;4)
> =LARGE(C3:E10;5)
> 
> Even simpler (and more reliably), if you want these values in a column, start 
> with
> =LARGE(C$3:E$10;ROW()-n)
> - where "n" is a suitable value (depending on the row you choose for this top 
> value result) so that ROW()-n gives the result 1. Then fill this formula down 
> the five cells.
> 
> Note that this technique copes with duplicate values, so if there are two 
> equal third highest scores, say, both will appear in your list. I'm guessing 
> that this is what you will want.
> 
> I trust this helps.
> 
> Brian Barker
> 
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Re: Is there a MAC version available. If so please fwd. me a link to it. THANKS.

[James Plante]

There’s a mac version called NeoOffice available on the App store. It uses the 
AOO code base. However, this one costs about $30 last time I looked. I use it 
all the time for 200-page reports that are heavy in graphics and 
cross-referenced. 

Jim

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 6:29 AM, chuck ef  wrote:
> 
> There is a macOS version- you will see it at the Apache OO download page. I 
> use it all the time. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> 
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Re: windows 8 version of open office

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On 02/25/2017 05:27 PM, basireid wrote:
> Hello
> I am trying to download the open office for usage on a Windows 8 PC.. with no 
> internet
> I use my android samsung phone to download most software and then transfer
> Yet.. the site detects my phone and cannot direct me to the windows 8 version 
> or comparable one
> If i can get a link with maybe a zip file? Or similar... 
> thanks for the time and 
> Have a great dayBrian
>
>

Perhaps you can tether your computer to your phone for Internet access. 
Regardless, the Windows version should work.  I have used it on both
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Re: Libre Office

[James Plante]

Apparently not, Jonathon. Going to NeoWiki.neooffice.org 
<http://neowiki.neooffice.org/>, I find this at the bottom of the page:

If you purchased and installed NeoOffice 2015 
<http://neowiki.neooffice.org/index.php/El_Capitan_and_Sierra_Upgrade_Issues#Problems_after_upgrading_to_El_Capitan_or_Sierra.3F>
 and you find a bug, send us an e-mail 
<mailto:elcapitansierrab...@neooffice.org>. Please include any screen snapshots 
<https://support.apple.com/HT201361> that might help us see what you see on 
your computer.

The page was last updated 1/22/2017, and NeoOffice is still being maintained on 
the App Store.

Now, I have no idea what Patrick Luby has been up to. A few years back, I 
foolishly installed a new update to Neo while I was in the middle of a 
sixty-page report that had numerous photos imbedded. When I took a certain 
action (I don’t remember what it was) all the photos squished onto the last 
page and had to be redistributed through the text. I sent Patrick a bug report 
and the document. Ninety minutes later, he had a trial fix for me that worked. 
That’s pretty good tech support. 

Moving forward in time, he started charging $100/year for tech support, and I 
quit going to the trinity forum more than a couple of times a year. You 
couldn’t post or comment unless you were paid up. Now I see that help is in a 
Wiki, and bug fixes are available through that e-mail link above, but no charge 
for bug fixes appears in the pages; maybe he’s back to doing it for free, and 
is relying on the App Store version to produce enough income to support this. I 
just don’t know. 

How-to’s and other user support? We’re it, along with the OOo forum. Which is, 
I suppose, as it should be. 

Jim Plante

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:29 AM, toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 02/06/2017 09:56 PM, James Plante wrote:
>> Overall, I like Neo better  because its solo developer tends to business as 
>> quick as possible. 
> 
> I was under the impression that the developor had pretty much closed up
> shop. The last time I went poking around that site, I didn't see any
> indicators of paid support being available.
> 
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Re: Libre Office

[James Plante]

@Girvin,
The important thing is to get the work done; the tool is secondary. I agree 
with your decision, and you are correct: I once used NeoOffice to construct an 
entire six-page form (FNMA1004) for real estate appraisals that has a couple of 
hundred blanks to fill and boxes to check, one page with an imbedded 
spreadsheet. It worked fine, blood loss was manageable and the scars are almost 
invisible now :-)

@Julian,
I thought about using that iWork suite, and I have it. About all the activity 
it gets is regular updates in the background. The problem is that I write 
appraisal reports that run 100-200 pages long. They’re heavily 
cross-referenced, which can be done with ease in AOO and LO, but not easily if 
at all in Pages. The rest would work OK, but Pages lacks user fields, so when I 
type something that appears at several places in the report (e.g., report 
date), I type that one time and it propagates to the other fields in the 
report. Clients aren’t ever satisfied, and always want this or that included or 
left out, necessitating a change in report date. In Neo, I just enter the new 
date and I *know* it’s changed properly in all the places it is used. 

The user field issue might be worked around by dropping in single cells from a 
spreadsheet, but like Girvin, I have a work flow that I’m happy with and would 
be loath to change. 

Jim Plante

> On Feb 6, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Girvin Herr <ghe...@fastmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/06/2017 01:56 PM, James Plante wrote:
>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Girvin Herr <ghe...@fastmail.com 
>> <mailto:ghe...@fastmail.com>> wrote
>>> 
>>> 2. AOO does not include a database report generator, which is crucial
>>>  to my work.  You can create the database, but there is no way in AOO
>>>  to print it out nicely.  LO does include a report generator and it
>>>  works fine.
>> Are you sure it needs a report generator? Can you not open your database as 
>> a data source in Writer to produce reports? A report is really just a big, 
>> complex form letter.
> Jim,
> Umm.  I guess I will have to amend my "no way" to "no easy way". The report 
> generator does use either Writer or Calc to do the formatting/printing.  
> However, I have spent a good amount of time formatting my reports the way I 
> want them.  To throw that out and start over is not acceptable.  It is much 
> easier to use LO when I need to print a report.  I think I tried manually 
> using writer for a report once and the results were not pretty.  I admit I am 
> not experienced in this process but it seems it would take a lot of recurring 
> work to format the data in Writer for each table, of which I have many, and 
> each update, which are ongoing.  The Report Generator just makes it so much 
> easier.  It is like a wizard for the data. Would you like to use writer to 
> create and maintain your forms?  You can, but that doesn't mean you should, 
> unless you are into pain.
>>> 
>>> 3. LO does not restore a session properly, where AOO does.
>>>  I like to keep several oft-used files open all the time.  I do not
>>>  close these files before I shut down.  I expect these files to be
>>>  reopened at startup the next time I use the system, so I don't have
>>>  to manually open them all.  AOO does this properly. LO, from version
>>>  4.x on, does not.
>> Thank you, Girvin. You just gave me a useful idea.
>> 
>> Jim Plante
> You're welcome.
> Girvin
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Re: Libre Office

[James Plante]

I have both LO and AO, as well as NeoOffice for the Mac. Overall, I like Neo 
better  because its solo developer tends to business as quick as possible. And 
it’s a dandy program. Defects? Sure! But as I said, critical flaws are dealt 
with promptly. (And not that Neo is not free; Costs $30 or so on the App 
store.) Most of the stuff I can do in Neo can also be done in AO and LO, but I 
like Neo because of its Aqua (native) interface to the Mac. Fonts look better, 
as to icons and other things. But they appear to be functionally the same. 

Thought I’d add to your comments a little:
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Girvin Herr  wrote:
> 
> 1. AOO may not be as feature-rich (some would call it feature bloat) as
>   LO, but what features are there seem to be a bit more stable than
>   LO.  This is more of a feeling than a hard fact and I cannot point
>   to any specific feature that supports it.
> 
> 2. AOO does not include a database report generator, which is crucial
>   to my work.  You can create the database, but there is no way in AOO
>   to print it out nicely.  LO does include a report generator and it
>   works fine.
Are you sure it needs a report generator? Can you not open your database as a 
data source in Writer to produce reports? A report is really just a big, 
complex form letter. 
> 
> 3. LO does not restore a session properly, where AOO does.
>   I like to keep several oft-used files open all the time.  I do not
>   close these files before I shut down.  I expect these files to be
>   reopened at startup the next time I use the system, so I don't have
>   to manually open them all.  AOO does this properly. LO, from version
>   4.x on, does not.
Thank you, Girvin. You just gave me a useful idea. 

Jim Plante

What should be a simple Question

[James Flikkema]

Dear Sir or Madam:

 

I am getting tired of MS Office, and OO appears to be a possible
alternative, However.  I have years of documents (Word, Excel, Outlook,
PowerPoint) that I need.

 

This should be a simple question, Will OO read Office 2010 files?  If not,
there is no way I can dump thousands of documents to .txt files so they can
be read.

 

I hope the answer is yes, .

 

James Flikkema

porta...@twc.com

Re: AOO-Templates

[James Plante]

Has it occurred to anybody else here that envelopes are just a “page style?” 
In fact, it’s already a built-in choice in AOO 4.1.3. 
So load one up in a new document. Fill in return address, and the primary 
address. Add an “ATTN:” line if it suits you. Put XXXs in the first line and 
last available line on the “envelope”, and print it on a blank sheet of A4 or 
Letter size paper. Do things fit? OK, try an real envelope. Did it work? Great! 
Do File -> Templates…::Save. Now you’ve got a rudimentary envelope template. 

But play around with it. For business matters, you may like to include fields 
for the addressee, address, address2, City, State, Zip/Postal Code. These can 
be either User Defined fields, or they can be fields that you’ve dragged and 
dropped from your contacts database. This latter one is cool, because you 
simply View Data Sources, select your contacts data, and drag the column 
headers into the proper places on the envelope template. Then when you select, 
say Henrik Schultz, his info is propagated to all data fields in the template. 
(And you spell his name correctly, instead of Heinrich like you usually do.) 
Got those fields placed? Good. File -> Templates…::Save. Overwrite the 
rudimentary one. Now you’ve got a working template. 

You can probably figure the rest out from here, but what you have so far will 
work. Remember that in AOO, styles are everything. 

Jim
 
> On Nov 25, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Julian Thomas  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2016, at 15:24, Brian Barker  wrote:
>> 
>> Google's cache of a similar address to the one you give leads to
>> http://templates.openoffice.org/template/download/39885 , which is probably 
>> what you need. But note that this appears to be a template for printing on a 
>> Letter-size sheet of plain paper, which you can then fold and glue into a C6 
>> envelope with some parts already printed - which may not be what you need. 
>> If you need a template for printing a recipient's address and perhaps your 
>> return address on an existing C6 envelope, you can probably create one 
>> yourself from scratch very easily.
> 
> This may well work for envelopes depending on how your printer feeds them.  
> My envelope templates are for letter size paper - landscape - with margins 
> set to the envelope area.  Mine feeds in the center but an earlier printer 
> fed the envelope on the left. 
> 
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> jt - j...@jt-mj.net
> 
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> 
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Re: My entire novel was replaced with hash[marks]

[James Knott]

On 11/25/2016 01:17 AM, John Hart wrote:
> On 11/23/2016 4:36 PM, Doug wrote:
>> Take "extraordinary"--and the line I quoted says this is a PROBLEM
>> known for some time; therefore presumably there is a way to solve it
>> but nobody
>> has bothered.  And yes, I am careful, but nobody's perfect. OTOH, I
>> don't know why anyone would shut off their computer while in the
>> middle of using a
>> word processor. And anyone who is using a computer for serious
>> business has an UPS--uninteruptable power supply.
>>
>> --doug 
> I use an editor written twenty years ago for technical work.
> It automatically saves what you're working on every five minutes
> in a scratch file so if something goes wrong, you won't loose
> your changes. Another feature it has, when a file is changed, it
> automatically creates a backup, so even if the scratch file
> gets corrupted, the original isn't wiped out. These are simple
> things to implement, and with millions of OO users, would save a
> lot of people a lot of grief. A feature to protect user files
> could be added in less time than has been spent chastising
> users for not learning how to do backups.

AOO supports both backup copies and autorecovery.


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Re: please remove openoffice from my imac computer thanks

[James Knott]

On 11/24/2016 03:46 PM, Andrea wrote:
> Am 24.11.2016 um 20:13 schrieb mel moore:
>>
>>
> ROTFL - that's the strangest thing i read here
>

A bit short on detail though.  ;-)


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Re: Re-Install Open Office Suite in new Windows 10 computer

[James Knott]

On 11/21/2016 01:21 PM, un...@att.net wrote:
> I recently purchased a new Windows 10 computer and would like to know how to 
> install the Open Office suite The new machine rejects the installation. I 
> received a message telling me that I should contact the provider to get the 
> version for Windows 10.  I had been using it in my pervious machine. 
>
> Thank you!
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>

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Re: help with rand() function

[James Plante]

Felix, 
You would do better asking this on the Developer’s list rather than here on the 
user’s list. Most of us here wouldn’t know a Mersenne Twister from Boston baked 
beans. Another possibility: Download the source code and look for it yourself.

Jim Plante

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Felix R.  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I would like know about the period of the rand() function, I have
> searched  in the forum but I have not found anything in the matter.
> 
> I suspect that there can be an implementation of the  Mersenne Twister
> generator, but i'm not sure.
> 
> I hope you may help me, regards.
> 
> Felix Ramirez


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Re: administrator authorisation

[James Plante]

John Jones,
I don’t use Windows, so my capacity to help is going to be limited. However, 
here are some thoughts:
In order for your to change the admin password, you have to know the current 
admin password. 
It is possible that the installer did not change the admin password from the 
default, if there is one. 
It is also possible that he used the prior password.
If you don’t know the current admin password, you’re really shooting blind. You 
can try some of the more common “default” passwords. 
If not, then try “PASSWORD”; “password”; “ADMIN”; “admin”; or permutations of 
those concatenated with the year, e.g., “admin2016”. 

Just don’t try more than about five per hour; Windows should warn you when the 
number of password attempts is approaching its limit. Not being a Windows user, 
I don’t know much more than that. 

Good luck,

Jim



> On Nov 7, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Martin Groenescheij  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/11/16 2:06 PM, John Jones wrote:
>> John F. Jones
>> Auckland
>> New Zealand
>> 
>> Apache Open Office was installed on my laptop by the computer professional 
>> who installed Windows 10. He is now in Australia and I have lost contact 
>> with him so cannot ask him what the administrator password is so I can’t 
>> update my Open Office. What is the procedure for changing the password so I 
>> can be authorized to update Open Office on my laptop?
> 
> This is a Windows Administrator problem and hos nothing do do with OpenOffice.
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> John F. Jones.
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
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Re: From Howard Goldfarb

[James Plante]

Howard,
With a spreadsheet open, select View -> Toolbars, then select the Drawing 
toolbar.
You’ll have yet another toolbar to look at. From the Drawing toolbar, select 
the Block Arrow choice, then click and drag in the spreadsheet. The block arrow 
will appear. It has handles, and you can drag it to where it is needed. 

Note that while the arrow is selected, the choices in the top toolbar change. 
You can change the color of the arrow, among other things. As soon as you click 
in a spreadsheet cell, though, it goes away.  

Jim



> On Nov 3, 2016, at 4:17 AM, howard  wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir/Madam;
> 
> I have been trying, without success, to find on the many, many toolbars
> solid pointed arrows to incorporate into a spreadsheet. Please assist as I
> have become totally frustrated; thank-you.
> 
> Yours truly,
> 
> Howard Goldfarb
> 
> 
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Re: Writing Templates

[James Plante]

Jonathon,
Of course it depends on what the template does. But at some point, it stops 
being a template and becomes a specialized program. Project management is a 
good example, too. Just as some people try to keep all the books of a small (or 
even a medium) business in Excel when they should be using a dedicated database 
and a good double-entry bookkeeping system like e.g. GnuCash, I’m sure some 
will try to manage a project with inappropriate software too. 

And I understand and appreciate your reference to high-priced templates. I’ve 
constructed a template to duplicate a two-page government form that 
self-calculates and shows/hides conditional text. It was tedious to construct, 
and required a bunch of sanding and polishing before it was ready to use. Then 
the government changed the !$@^&*&! form to a six-pager.  I revised it with a 
modest amount of Anglo-Saxon expressions that I learned from early exposure to 
Chaucer. Most users of AOO can’t do that (or perhaps, "are smart enough *not* 
to do that” would be a better way to put it.)

My reply referred to those quickie tasks, like a personal or business letter; 
an invoice; an article for the local paper; or maybe a personal essay. A 
template helps you get started quickly before your lose that spark of 
inspiration. It should also provide enough final polish that it can be 
submitted for publication and subsequently saved in the archive of rejected 
articles….errr…personal essays. For these, “make your own” is the way I’d go. I 
would also advise saving the .ott that you create into AOO’s template system 
(File -> Templates -> Save…), and then save a copy in a separate folder (Save 
as… [ODF Text Document Template (.ott)]) so you can tinker with it and not mess 
up your primary template. 

Jim


> On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:09 AM, toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 02/11/2016 18:58, James Plante wrote:
> 
>> My advice is to make your own. 
> 
> That really depends upon what the template does.
> 
> The typical MSO Template with an MSRP in the US$400 price range, whilst
> creatable by power users, is usually both awkward and tedious to
> construct. Those in the US$10,000 price range are usually beyond the
> territory occupied by power users. Between those two price points,
> things are iffy, but tend towards requiring specialists to construct,
> and power users to utilize.
> 
> On the flipside, it is much easier to download templates for Project
> Management, than it is to construct them from scratch.
> 
> jonathon
> 
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Re: Writing Templates

[James Plante]

Tracey,
My advice is to make your own. Find a resumé that looks good to you, and 
duplicate it. Save it as Resume.ott. 
Articles’ formats are going to depend on the guidelines of whoever publishes 
them. Obtain a format example, and duplicate it. 
Poetry? Pretty much open; you can get away with just about anything in the name 
of artistic license. So make a template that is pleasing to you. 
I didn’t know there was any specific format for a biography. Did you mean 
“bibliography” by chance?
If so, those are pretty much governed by whatever publisher is going to handle 
the main article. Some want Chicago Manual of Style, others Turabian, and it 
can vary all over the spectrum. Again, create your own .ott’s for the ones you 
may frequently use. 

Jim

> On Nov 2, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Tracey Salgado  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I was wondering, what are the  best templates for general writing, 
> such as resumes, biographies, articles, poetry and things of that nature? I 
> really appreciate your help on this!
> Best,
> Dorianne
> 
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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[James Plante]

Andrea,
The release note refers to an article in the Apple Knowledge Base that was 
written for systems up to and including El Capitain (MacOS 10.11). In Sierra 
(MacOS 10.12) the procedure is as I described and as chuck ef expanded on, 
i.e., how to kill Gatekeeper permanently (not recommended). 

What I posted is current, and was taken point-by-point as I installed AOO on my 
iMac and Sierra. 

You may copy and edit my post and use it to amend the release notes if you like.

Regards,
Jim

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> James Plante wrote:
>>> The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from
>>> running software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about,
>>> hence they’re judged to be untrustworthy.
>>> So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security
>>> & Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the
>>> window “Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App
>>> Store” and “App Store and identified developers.”
>>> Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that
>>> Gatekeeper blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled
>>> “Open Anyway.”
>>> But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and
>>> click the little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password.
>>> You can now make changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway”
>>> button. AOO will launch.
>> 
>> Is this better or more current than what we have now in the OpenOffice
>> 4.1.3 Release Notes? Our instructions have been the same for a few
>> years, and if the new Mac OS X Sierra adopted another approach they
>> might need some updates.
> 
> To be clear, I refer to the first bullet point here:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.3ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues
>  
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.3ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues>
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[James Plante]

> On Oct 15, 2016, at 11:27 AM, chuck ef  wrote:
> 
> My word, 4.1.3 opens quickly now. 4.1.2 was such a slug for some reason.

You’re right! I downloaded yesterday, and just now started 4.1.3 to check Jim 
Driscoll’s problem. After quitting, that program reloads in a flash on this 
iMac. 

Thanks for the tip,

Jim

Re: New Open Office Apache program

[James Plante]

The problem you encountered was with Gatekeeper. It prevents you from running 
software obtained from sources that Apple doesn’t know about, hence they’re 
judged to be untrustworthy. 

So to get AOO to launch, open System Preferences, and select Security & 
Privacy. Under the General tab, you’ll see in the bottom half of the window 
“Allow apps downloaded from:” with the choices being “App Store” and “App Store 
and identified developers.” 

Underneath that choice, you should see a notice to the effect that Gatekeeper 
blocked AOO from opening, and gives you a button labeled “Open Anyway.”

But before you can click that button, go to the lower left corner and click the 
little lock icon, then enter your administrator’s password. You can now make 
changes to the system. Click the “Open Anyway” button. AOO will launch. 

You can sell all your Mac stuff if you want, but you’ll be shooting yourself in 
the foot if you do. Most problems have solutions. Many solutions require a 
limited amount of work and/or study. If you go with Windows stuff, you’ll have 
a lot of problems, but there are lots of people who’ll give you solutions. You 
will come to know them well. If you go with Linux, you’ll have to do a lot more 
studying, and learn some new cuss words. But it works, and it’s not Apple.

Good luck to you.  BTW, what are you asking for the new Mac Pro?

Jim

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Jim Driscoll  wrote:
> 
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I have a new Apple Mac Pro computer. I previously had to get special 
> permission from Apple to open your old Open Office program. I made a 
> permanent change to my Apple computer to access other down loaded programs.
> 
> Now Apple in their updates has changed my computer back to no new programs 
> unless approved by Apple. 
> 
> I downloaded your new Open Office Apache updated program and you made it seem 
> so simple, like Apple would give me no problems. Apple again shut your 
> program down. Now I have no access to my documents. 
> 
> I need help. This time Apple will not help. 
> 
> Any recommendations on computers because I am selling all my Apple iPhones, 
> my 2 MacPros and various other Apple devices. Apple dumped 236 of my CD 
> downloaded songs in a transfer from iPhone 5 to iPhone 6s. They did this 
> transfer at the store with no backup. So it was Apples software that dumped 
> the songs. Apple can now be described as Sub Rosa Crooks.
> 
> Jim Driscoll
> jimdriscol...@gmail.com
> 971-678-1905
> 
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Re: Email set up

[James Knott]

On 10/14/2016 11:08 AM, Wade Smart wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 9:19 AM, vbrophy  wrote:
>> Hi.  Just downloaded apache office 4.1.3.  Need to email documents, and it 
>> said email is not set up.  Sorry, but don’t know what I am doing!  Would 
>> appreciate help.  And if u can, please walk me thru it very slowly.  Kids 
>> just hooked up new desktop for me too.  THANK U!!!  Ginny Brophy
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
> Uh.. Office does not have a email client.
> In the same email client you emailed this group from,
> you can attach documents there with the paperclip
> icon.
>
> Here is a walk thru how to do that:
>
> http://www.dummies.com/computers/operating-systems/windows-10/how-to-send-mail-attachments-in-windows-10/
>
>

First off, she might be using a browser, instead of an email client. 
However, if she is using a client, it has to be set as default, using
the method I described in another message.

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Re: Email set up

[James Knott]

On 10/14/2016 10:19 AM, vbrophy wrote:
> Hi.  Just downloaded apache office 4.1.3.  Need to email documents, and it 
> said email is not set up.  Sorry, but don’t know what I am doing!  Would 
> appreciate help.  And if u can, please walk me thru it very slowly.  Kids 
> just hooked up new desktop for me too.  THANK U!!!Ginny Brophy
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>


First off, you need an email program.  Many people use Thunderbird. 
Then you have to set it as the default email app.  You do this by
clicking on Start button > Control Panel > Default Programs > Set your
default programs and then Thunderbird.  Click on Set this program as
default.  Thunderbird should now be available for sending documents.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

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Re: Problem with Sort in Calc

[James Plante]

No, it is not true.

Let’s assume for this example that your spreadsheet has six columns: Name, 
Address, City, State, Zip, Phone

We want to sort this list by City, so do this:

Select the top left cell in your table. In our example, it is cell A1. 
Next, select Data->Sort…
This should select all cells within the table. A dialog box will appear. At the 
top of the dialog, you are given two tabs: Sort criteria, and Options. Select 
options.
Select the options you want, but [**important**] make sure to check “Range 
contains column labels”. When you’ve finished selecting, clic on Sort criteria 
again. 
This time you should see “Sort by: Name” on the first line. Click on the 
disclosure triangle at the end of the “Sort by” field.
Select City instead.
Click OK.

The list is now sorted.

A warning: If you simply select the City column and sort it, only that column 
will be sorted, and your data will be mixed up. If that happens by accident, 
you should immediately select Edit->Undo. The whole table must be selected in 
order to sort all the rows of all the columns. 

Jim

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Vince%Gmail  wrote:
> 
> Windows 10, desktop,
> 
> AOO412m3(Build:9782)  -  Rev. 1709696
> 2015-10-21 09:53:29 (Mi, 21 Okt 2015)
> 
> 
> When sorting data in AOO Calc, must the "key" text  data be located in the 
> leftmost column? It seems that it is so.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> VinceB.
> 
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Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

[James Knott]

You sent this to a mail list for users of Apache Open Office.  We have
nothing to do with the web site.


On 09/23/2016 11:24 PM, Formsbirds wrote:
> Dear Webmaster,
>
> I'm writing to ask for adding "Nofollow" tag to the links that pointed to my 
> site - formsbirds.com or remove them completely. 
> We found thousands of links pointed to our site from 
> templates.openoffice.org. The links are under an account named 
> susie...@yandex.com.
> This was caused by a SEO team we hired. We want to get our templates shared 
> to more users via your site and hired a SEO team to upload our templates to 
> your site. But they are too aggressive and put too many links inside.
> Now we found thousands of backlinks from your site, which are actually bad to 
> our site. 
> We have contacted the SEO team to remove the links under the user account 
> susie...@yandex.com, while they told us the account had been blocked and they 
> couldn't log in to delete the links.
> We ask for the removal of all the links, or just add "nofollow" tag to those 
> links pointed to our website from your side. You can still keep the documents 
> that have uploaded at your website if those templates ate useful to users, 
> but please delete the links pointed to our site.
> Katie Williams
> Formsbirds.com
>
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>
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