Re: [users] OpenOffice on our web pages

2011-02-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
Are you referring to the Open Office logo, to redistributing the
software, or to writing the webpage in Open Office? Please be more
specific, and you might want to familiarise yourself with the GPL
licence:
http://www.gnugpl.cz/


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Re: [users] OpenOffice on our web pages

2011-02-14 Thread Dan Lewis
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On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 21:08 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 Are you referring to the Open Office logo, to redistributing the
 software, or to writing the webpage in Open Office? Please be more
 specific, and you might want to familiarise yourself with the GPL
 licence:
 http://www.gnugpl.cz/
 
 
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Re: [users] OpenOffice on our web pages

2011-02-14 Thread Stan Goodman
On Monday 14 February 2011 11:13:21 Belatková Kristina wrote:
 Dears, I would like to ask for you approval to use OpenOffice on our
  web pages, please see below. Thank you very much for your answer and
  best regards, Kristina Belatková

Kristina...

You do not need permission from  anyone to use pages that you made using 
openOffice on your websites, for either personal or commercial pages.

openOffice is open software, which is why it is given away free (if you 
paid for it, you were robbed).

Good luck.

Greetings to Czech Republic from Israel. Praha is my favorite European 
city (or  at least was, before it became so touristic-commercialized 
almost like a Disney Land.

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Qiryat Tiv'on
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Re: [users] OpenOffice Base

2011-02-07 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 2/5/2011 5:22 PM, Faith White wrote:

I am trying to set up a data base for my clients. I can't figure out how to
use it. Are there any tutorials, instructions.

Thanks, Faith


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The Getting Started with Base document is probably the best place to start. Here are links for a PDF 
and for the wiki document:


http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0110GS-GettingStartedWithBase.pdf
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Getting_Started/Getting_Started_with_Base

For a deeper look, quite a few people have found this helpful:

http://documentation.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=778expandFolder=778folderID=778 




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Re: [users] openoffice ?

2011-01-31 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2011-01-31 15:59:08 skrev Robert Allen robertallen...@yahoo.com:

i simply wanted to see an example of a document - ANY DOCUMENT - in your  
program and after spending approximately 20 minutes of searching and  
finding nothing but explanations of how things work and how great things  
are could still NOT find a single example - is it necessary to have to  
go through the entire download  installation simply to see an example  
of a document in this not really that open of an open office doc?


Maybe because there's nothing to show? It can look just like anything, it  
depends on so many other things than OpenOffice.org itself, like which  
fonts you use and so on.



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Re: [users] openoffice ?

2011-01-31 Thread Paul
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Robert Allen robertallen...@yahoo.comwrote:

 i simply wanted to see an example of a document - ANY DOCUMENT - in your
 program and after spending approximately 20 minutes of searching and finding
 nothing but explanations of how things work and how great things are could
 still NOT find a single example - is it necessary to have to go through the
 entire download  installation simply to see an example of a document in
 this not really that open of an open office doc?




Its not really clear what your after. Do you want to see what a document
looks like within writer without installing the program? Have a look at the
screen shots below:
http://www.openoffice.org/screenshots/

You can have a look at the templates for various components of OOo here:
http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en

/paul


Re: [users] openoffice ?

2011-01-31 Thread Dan Lewis
On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 06:59 -0800, Robert Allen wrote: 
 i simply wanted to see an example of a document - ANY DOCUMENT - in your 
 program and after spending approximately 20 minutes of searching and finding 
 nothing but explanations of how things work and how great things are could 
 still NOT find a single example - is it necessary to have to go through the 
 entire download  installation simply to see an example of a document in this 
 not really that open of an open office doc?

 I have attached a PDF document: bridge.pdf. I created the text
document (bridge.odf) in Writer (OOo's word processing module) from
notes I took in a bridge class. It has two levels of heading formats and
a text format. I then used OOo to export the pdf document. I would have
attached the .odf file also, but you would need OOo or another word
processor that can read .odf files.

Dan



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Re: [users] openoffice ?

2011-01-31 Thread Dan Lewis
On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 06:59 -0800, Robert Allen wrote: 
 i simply wanted to see an example of a document - ANY DOCUMENT - in your 
 program and after spending approximately 20 minutes of searching and finding 
 nothing but explanations of how things work and how great things are could 
 still NOT find a single example - is it necessary to have to go through the 
 entire download  installation simply to see an example of a document in this 
 not really that open of an open office doc?

 I have attached a PDF document: bridge.pdf. I created the text
document (bridge.odf) in Writer (OOo's word processing module) from
notes I took in a bridge class. It has two levels of heading formats and
a text format. I then used OOo to export the pdf document. I would have
attached the .odf file also, but you would need OOo or another word
processor that can read .odf files.

Dan



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Re: [users] openoffice ?

2011-01-31 Thread Dan Lewis
On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 06:59 -0800, Robert Allen wrote:
 i simply wanted to see an example of a document - ANY DOCUMENT - in your 
 program and after spending approximately 20 minutes of searching and finding 
 nothing but explanations of how things work and how great things are could 
 still NOT find a single example - is it necessary to have to go through the 
 entire download  installation simply to see an example of a document in this 
 not really that open of an open office doc?
  
 I have attached a PDF document: bridge.pdf. I created the text
document (bridge.odf) in Writer (OOo's word processing module) from
notes I took in a bridge class. It has two levels of heading formats and
a text format. I then used OOo to export the pdf document. I would have
attached the .odf file also, but you would need OOo or another word
processor that can read .odf files.

Dan


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Re: [users] openoffice ?

2011-01-31 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/31/2011 8:59 AM, Robert Allen wrote:

i simply wanted to see an example of a document - ANY DOCUMENT - in your program 
and after spending approximately 20 minutes of searching and finding nothing but 
explanations of how things work and how great things are could still NOT find a 
single example - is it necessary to have to go through the entire download  
installation simply to see an example of a document in this not really that open of 
an open office doc?


What do you want to see? There are quite a few different formats under the ODF standard (odt, ods, 
odg, ...) that can be used quite well with a number of different programs -- even the newer versions 
of Office (2007 SP2 and later) make an attempt at them, though not interoperably really with anybody 
else's ODF implementations, by their choice. That's what makes ODF a very open standard. If what you 
want is an odt file (the word processor's default output format), we can easily send you any number 
of them (or their corresponding PDF files), but if you have specific questions about whether 
particular features are supported you'd be better off asking about those directly.


The documentation available in PDF format on the site is extensive, and those document were produced 
by Writer in odt format and then exported to PDF.


If this doesn't address your question, I'm afraid you'll have to be more specific about exactly what 
you want to see.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice does not open .ods and odt files.

2011-01-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 18:29, Bert Severijn gcsever...@zonnet.nl wrote:
 Suddenly it appeared that my files ending with .ods and .odt are not opened 
 anymore in Open Ofiice.
 I am using Home Vista.

 Can you help me to solve this error?


Something may have changed the default file associations. In your
Control Panel go to Programs - Default Programs


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Re: [users] OpenOffice does not open .ods and odt files.

2011-01-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 18:29, Bert Severijn gcsever...@zonnet.nl wrote:
 Suddenly it appeared that my files ending with .ods and .odt are not opened 
 anymore in Open Ofiice.
 I am using Home Vista.

 Can you help me to solve this error?


Something may have changed the default file associations. In your
Control Panel go to Programs - Default Programs - Set Your Default Programs


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Re: [users] OpenOffice does not open .ods and odt files.

2011-01-30 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 1/29/2011 10:29 AM, Bert Severijn wrote:

Suddenly it appeared that my files ending with .ods and .odt are not opened 
anymore in Open Ofiice.
I am using Home Vista.

Can you help me to solve this error?

Kind regards,

Bert Severijn


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Either installing a recent version of Office (2007 SP2 or later), or something else, has apparently 
taken over those file associations and you'll need to reset them for OOo. This can be done by 
right-clicking on a file and choosing Open With, browsing to soffice.exe, and choosing the option to 
always use this program. Or use Control Programs, Programs, Default Programs, Make a file type 
always open in a specific program. Select the file type, use the Change program... button, click OOo 
if it's shown in the list of recommended programs, or expand the Other Programs (plus sign) if OOo 
is not shown and browse to soffice.exe if OOo is still not shown, or click it if it is there.


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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.3 RC7

2010-12-08 Thread webmas...@krackedpress.com
On 12/08/10 04:35, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
 Hi,

 I have Openoffice Office Suite 3.3 RC 7 on Windows XP.

 We follow steps for Data Pilot.

 1. Select all.
 2. Data option Data Pilot and Start.
 3. In Row fields we take Mask and Cause.
 4. In Data Fields we take Cause (Count-Cause).
 5. Save it in .xlsx format .

 In open office this all takes 30 to 40 minutes. and in Microsoft XL it takes
 hardly 10 minutes.

 Minimum 65000 rows so we have to save it in xlsx format.

 Approx size of the file in csv format is 70 to 80 MB  and we save it in xlsx
 format.

 Please suggest/guide

 Thanks

 Kaushal


Microsoft XL? - Are you talking about a version of MS Office?  What version
of Excel did you use for the testing?  I thought that OOo Calc was
supporting
a million rows in version 3.3 and saving it with the default ODF file
format.

The one thing that you should realize is MSO and OOo do thing differently
across the board.  There are things that OOo seems to do faster than MSO
and there are things that seem to do faster with MSO.  MSO has thousands
and thousands of paid workers to make MSO the best product in their eyes
and their idea of what people want and need.  OOo does not have the
personnel or resources to compete in the programming aspect.  But OOo's
people who do program are doing their best with the resources at hand.
Many of the MSO options are looked at by OOo programmers and then
they need to figure out how to do it within OOo.  I bet when the options
you tested was developed by MSO, it took many years to get the coding
to be as fast as you think it is.  How long has OOo had those options?
How many man hours did MSO spend on getting it working, and how
many has OOo been able to dedicate to it. 

Remember, although there are some paid employees from Oracle [Sun before]
that are working on the code base for OOo, I would suspect that there are
10, 20, 50 times as many unpaid volunteers working on making it better.

I left MSO for OOo since MSO was becoming much slower than OOo at
that time.  Whatever versions are now out for MSO may be better at some
things, but I still say OOo is overall the better choice.  I do remember
reading
an article that states that if you are a high-end user of an office
suite, then
MSO might be a better choice.  Their high-end user seemed to be less than
1/2% of most business users and even less of personal users of an office
suite.
Otherwise, the article stated, OOo most likely be a better choice for
the user,
business or personal.  I believe that.  I have MSO 2003 but have used it
once
in the past 6 months.  Now that I have Ubuntu for all but one laptop, I use
OOo only unless I must use MSO for something that only MSO does.

Actually I cannot wait for 3.3 to get out of the RC stage.

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Re: [users] openoffice for macosx10.5.6

2010-12-02 Thread Daniel Lewis

HERZFELD UTE wrote:

Hi there,

which version of openoffice is the newest one that is compatible with MAC
OSX 10.5.6, and how can i donwload it?

Thanks, Ute


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Go to www.openoffice.org on your MAC. Click I want to download 
OpenOffice.org. A box opens below what you just clicked. Click anywhere 
in the box begin the downloading process. You will be taken to another 
page and then the download window opens. You will be downloading a .dmg 
file. Double click it to install it. A window opens with three folders 
and the OOo.app file. Drag this file to the Applications folder in this 
window to install the program. Icon also appear labeled OpenOffice.org 
on the desktop. When you are finished installing the program, drag the 
icon to the Trash to eject it.


Dan

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Re: [users] openoffice

2010-10-26 Thread Heikki Jussila
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 00:53, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:

 On 10/21/2010 4:33 PM, saskia shoshana cohen wrote:

 Shalom
 When I receive documents PdF or MHTLM doc
 It is impossible to open them to download them
 Thank you to help me quickly to resolve this problem


 {Saskia (saskiacohentan...@gmail.com) is not subscribed and probably will
 not see messages unless directly copied.]

 Saskia, OpenOffice.org is not really designed to open either of those
 formats. PDF files can be opened in the Draw application, I think, but
 basically as drawings; you need a reader (there are several free ones,
 including one from Adobe), or you can try one of the utilities that attempts
 to make them editable. Sorry, I can't recommend any as particularly good,
 though maybe somebody else here can help.


For editing PDF files I use Foxit PDF Editor (version 2.0 build 111). It can
open any PDF file and you can edit its content, even add graphics etc. You
can get it from Foxit Software (it is for Windows so if you are using MAC or
Linux then you need to find something else for PDF management.


 MHTLM appears to be some sort of message attachment format that is not
 generally supported. Your best bet is probably to have whoever is sending
 you these attachments use a different format instead. If you meant MHTML, a
 web page browser format that collects various external components together,
 again this is not a supported format for OOo: Internet Explorer should
 probably be able to handle it, though.


MHTLM is a Microsoft special format of HTML when saved form IE (it contains
all the information you see from a web-page in a single file, but you need
IE to get it functioning  properly, you may be able to see the text in other
browsers too, but that is not always the case.


 What OOo primarily deals with is text documents, spreadsheets,
 presentations, and drawings, all in a large number of formats.


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Re: [users] openoffice

2010-10-26 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-10-26 16:24:43 skrev Heikki Jussila  
heikkitapio.juss...@gmail.com:



On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 00:53, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:


On 10/21/2010 4:33 PM, saskia shoshana cohen wrote:


Shalom
When I receive documents PdF or MHTLM doc
It is impossible to open them to download them
Thank you to help me quickly to resolve this problem



{Saskia (saskiacohentan...@gmail.com) is not subscribed and probably  
will

not see messages unless directly copied.]

Saskia, OpenOffice.org is not really designed to open either of those
formats. PDF files can be opened in the Draw application, I think, but
basically as drawings; you need a reader (there are several free ones,
including one from Adobe), or you can try one of the utilities that  
attempts
to make them editable. Sorry, I can't recommend any as particularly  
good,

though maybe somebody else here can help.



For editing PDF files I use Foxit PDF Editor (version 2.0 build 111). It  
can
open any PDF file and you can edit its content, even add graphics etc.  
You
can get it from Foxit Software (it is for Windows so if you are using  
MAC or

Linux then you need to find something else for PDF management.


There is one called ”PDF Studio” which unfortunately is not free, but it's  
available for Linux, Windows and Mac.



Regards

Johnny Rosenberg







MHTLM appears to be some sort of message attachment format that is not
generally supported. Your best bet is probably to have whoever is  
sending
you these attachments use a different format instead. If you meant  
MHTML, a
web page browser format that collects various external components  
together,

again this is not a supported format for OOo: Internet Explorer should
probably be able to handle it, though.



MHTLM is a Microsoft special format of HTML when saved form IE (it  
contains
all the information you see from a web-page in a single file, but you  
need
IE to get it functioning  properly, you may be able to see the text in  
other

browsers too, but that is not always the case.



What OOo primarily deals with is text documents, spreadsheets,
presentations, and drawings, all in a large number of formats.



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Re: [users] openoffice

2010-10-25 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den 2010-10-21 23:33:34 skrev saskia shoshana cohen  
saskiacohentan...@gmail.com:



Shalom
When I receive documents PdF or MHTLM doc
It is impossible to open them to download them
Thank you to help me quickly to resolve this problem


PDF's are better opened with Document Viewer or Adobe Reader or similar.  
You don't need OpenOffice.org for that.


What is MHTML? Never heard of, sorry. I don't think I have seen one in my  
whole life, so I guess I should be embarrassed now…


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Re: [users] openoffice

2010-10-25 Thread Daniel Lewis

saskia shoshana cohen wrote:

Shalom
When I receive documents PdF or MHTLM doc
It is impossible to open them to download them
Thank you to help me quickly to resolve this problem
   

From another member of this mailing list:
*
PDF's are better opened with Document Viewer or Adobe Reader or similar. 
You don't need OpenOffice.org for that.

*
 Now, for my own comments.  MHTML is Microsoft's version of HTML. 
If you are using windows, you can use Internet Explorer to view the 
MHTML document.
 If you are receiving these documents as email attachments, you 
should be able to view anyone of them by double clicking the name of the 
file in the attachment list. If you are using Windows, it will open the 
files with the correct program.


Dan

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Re: [users] openoffice

2010-10-25 Thread Barbara Duprey

On 10/21/2010 4:33 PM, saskia shoshana cohen wrote:

Shalom
When I receive documents PdF or MHTLM doc
It is impossible to open them to download them
Thank you to help me quickly to resolve this problem


{Saskia (saskiacohentan...@gmail.com) is not subscribed and probably will not see messages unless 
directly copied.]


Saskia, OpenOffice.org is not really designed to open either of those formats. PDF files can be 
opened in the Draw application, I think, but basically as drawings; you need a reader (there are 
several free ones, including one from Adobe), or you can try one of the utilities that attempts to 
make them editable. Sorry, I can't recommend any as particularly good, though maybe somebody else 
here can help.


MHTLM appears to be some sort of message attachment format that is not generally supported. Your 
best bet is probably to have whoever is sending you these attachments use a different format 
instead. If you meant MHTML, a web page browser format that collects various external components 
together, again this is not a supported format for OOo: Internet Explorer should probably be able to 
handle it, though.


What OOo primarily deals with is text documents, spreadsheets, presentations, and drawings, all in a 
large number of formats.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-21 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 20 September 2010 13:13, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

 jonathon wrote:

 On 09/17/2010 11:15 AM, Avery, Stephen (Stephen) wrote:


 so it could be time to reconsider the platforms you support.


 OpenOffice.org is Free Libre Open Source So
 For a version of OOo that runs on Android, what is needed is a
 development team that will do the port, and recode around the various
 obstacles in that pat

 jonathon


 OpenOffice.org would be a bit much to run on Android.  With smartphones,
 the screen size is quite small, in comparison with desktop computers and
 there's simply no room for the tool bars etc.  Android apps tend to have a
 very simple user interface, because of the limitations of the device.  While
 a viewer might be doable, I'd hate to have do much while working with
 documents on it.



snip

See the DocumentsToGo web site at http://www.dataviz.com/index.html

In particular: 
http://www.dataviz.com/products/documentstogo/index.html?gclid=CNTc0qiymKQCFUsB4wod7SCJDwredirect=search_dxtg


For the HTC Desire (under Android) the blurb says

=== begin quote ===
Whether you’re an organization looking to mobilize your sales professionals
or an individual looking to increase personal productivity, leaving your
office or laptop behind **does not have to mean leaving your crucial files
and work behind.

Now you can get your work done no matter where you are by using Documents To
Go to view, edit and create **Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint files
as well as view Adobe PDF files on your Android-powered ** smartphone. **And
since** it is full featured yet easy to use, **Documents To Go is one mobile
 office suite that makes good business **sense
=== end quote ===

I have used DocumentsToGo on a Palm m515 (2 1/4 x 2 1/4 screen) since
about 2003, and I was by no means the first. Of course it's limited, not
only by the screen size but by the processor power. My only real point is
that it's doable and has been for nearly 10 years.

No, I am not paid in money or in kind by DataViz. Just a happy customer.

-- 
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London, England
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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-20 Thread James Knott

jonathon wrote:

On 09/17/2010 11:15 AM, Avery, Stephen (Stephen) wrote:
   

so it could be time to reconsider the platforms you support.
 

OpenOffice.org is Free Libre Open Source So
For a version of OOo that runs on Android, what is needed is a
development team that will do the port, and recode around the various
obstacles in that pat

jonathon
   
OpenOffice.org would be a bit much to run on Android.  With smartphones, 
the screen size is quite small, in comparison with desktop computers and 
there's simply no room for the tool bars etc.  Android apps tend to have 
a very simple user interface, because of the limitations of the device.  
While a viewer might be doable, I'd hate to have do much while working 
with documents on it.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-20 Thread jonathon
On 09/20/2010 12:13 PM, James Knott wrote:

 the screen size is quite small, in comparison with desktop computers and

Do not ignore keitai shousetsu. Cell phone novels primarily read and
authored by young Japanese women, on the subject of romantic fiction
such as relationships, lovers, rape, love triangles, and pregnancy.

They have migrated elsewhere, both geographically, and in subject matter.

 Android apps tend to have a very simple user interface, because of the 
 limitations of the device. 

a) Androffice and QuickOffice Connect are two office suites currently
available for Android;

b) A version of MSO is available for the WinMo 6.x operating system.
Granted, the file format it produces is incompatible with that produced
by every other version of MSO, but that is to be expected, since
Microsoft's expertise is in writing software that is incompatible with
itself, as well as with everything else out there;

c) Softoffice is available for WindowsCE, amongst other mobile device
platforms;

d) Mobi Systems OfficeSuite4 is an office suite available for the
Symbian platform;

I'd hate to have do much while working with documents on it.

That probably has more to do with why the document is being worked with,
and the type of document that is being worked with.

jonathon
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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-20 Thread James Knott

jonathon wrote:

the screen size is quite small, in comparison with desktop computers and
 

Do not ignore keitai shousetsu. Cell phone novels primarily read and
authored by young Japanese women, on the subject of romantic fiction
such as relationships, lovers, rape, love triangles, and pregnancy.
   
I have read ebooks, along with web sites, news etc., on my Nexus One.  
It can be done, but it's tedious.  I much prefer to read such things on 
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Re: [users] OpenOffice for Android

2010-09-19 Thread jonathon
On 09/17/2010 11:15 AM, Avery, Stephen (Stephen) wrote:
 so it could be time to reconsider the platforms you support.

OpenOffice.org is Free Libre Open Source So
For a version of OOo that runs on Android, what is needed is a
development team that will do the port, and recode around the various
obstacles in that pat

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Re: [users] OpenOffice and Android

2010-09-16 Thread Bernd Eilers

On 15.09.2010 21:46, RA Brown wrote:

Ayman Hotmail wrote:

Dears,

 


Good Day,

 


   Please, is there an OpenOffice.org version for Android system?

 


Many Thanks,

 


Ayman Qary


No there is not.  But that does not prevent you from getting the 
source code and building one for yourself.




Sure and after you´ve done that you can go on and install that truck 
motor into your kids tricycle like you always wanted to do ;-)


SCNR,
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Re: [users] OpenOffice and Android

2010-09-15 Thread RA Brown

Ayman Hotmail wrote:

Dears,

 


Good Day,

 


   Please, is there an OpenOffice.org version for Android system?

 


Many Thanks,

 


Ayman Qary


No there is not.  But that does not prevent you from getting the source 
code and building one for yourself.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice, Go-OO, ODBC, Offline Data Entry

2010-08-19 Thread Drew
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 21:03 -0400, Drew wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 10:08 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: 
  On 08/18/2010 09:29 AM, Lord_Devi wrote:

Hi,

Didn't get a chance to do anything more yesterday.

I was wondering however:

@Lord_Devi - are you reading along?

Thanks

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Re: [users] OpenOffice, Go-OO, ODBC, Offline Data Entry

2010-08-19 Thread Stacy Fry
unsubscribe please, once and for all

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Drew usersl...@paintedfrogceramics.comwrote:

 On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 10:08 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote:
  On 08/18/2010 09:29 AM, Lord_Devi wrote:
   Here is the catch. The SQL database itself exists at a 'home office',
   and these workers are wanting to be able to enter this data remotely;
   in an 'offline mode' as it were.
 
  Some kind of local cache is needed.  As you point out the difficulty is
  with updating the central database.
 
  The update could be
 
  + triggered manually, putting the onus on the user to remember to do so
  once connected.

 An example of this in Base would be:
 There would be 2 odb files.
 - One connects to the 'office server' database, call it office.obd.
 - One uses the embedded HSQLdb engine for the 'mobile desktop' and call
 this field.odb.
 Each has a table named 'Transactions', with a common structure.
 Updating manually then consists of:
 -opening both files on the desktop
 -drag the Transactions table from the field.odb window to the office.odb
 window.
 -drop the table object onto the Tables section.
 -in the export data dialog that opens select, append data
 -click finish
 (in practice you might use a view in the field.odb for the transfer, to
 make key handling easier)
 -Open the Transaction table in the field.odb database, select all
 records and delete them.
 OK - so that is a zero coding solution (well, not counting creating a
 view perhaps)

 
  + attempted regularly via cron
 
  + triggered via a script launched by the interfaces configuration once
  network connectivity is regained

 next email


 
   I don't know if maybe having a local SQL database running on each
   worker laptop which could somehow 'sync' the data would be a viable
   option or not... That is something I have never tried before.
 
 
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_SQLite_With_OpenOffice.org
 
   ... they may have to enter the data twice: Once on-site, and a 2nd
   time when they get back to the office. Essentially copying the
   offline data, into the 'live' forms essentially.
 
  Not a good choice.  That wastes more than work.  A central rule of time
  management is to touch each piece of paper only once -- ever.
 
  /Lars
 
 
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Re: [users] OpenOffice, Go-OO, ODBC, Offline Data Entry

2010-08-19 Thread RA Brown

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Re: [users] OpenOffice, Go-OO, ODBC, Offline Data Entry

2010-08-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/18/2010 09:29 AM, Lord_Devi wrote:
 Here is the catch. The SQL database itself exists at a 'home office',
 and these workers are wanting to be able to enter this data remotely;
 in an 'offline mode' as it were.

Some kind of local cache is needed.  As you point out the difficulty is
with updating the central database.

The update could be

+ triggered manually, putting the onus on the user to remember to do so
once connected.

+ attempted regularly via cron

+ triggered via a script launched by the interfaces configuration once
network connectivity is regained

 I don't know if maybe having a local SQL database running on each 
 worker laptop which could somehow 'sync' the data would be a viable 
 option or not... That is something I have never tried before.

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_SQLite_With_OpenOffice.org

 ... they may have to enter the data twice: Once on-site, and a 2nd 
 time when they get back to the office. Essentially copying the
 offline data, into the 'live' forms essentially.

Not a good choice.  That wastes more than work.  A central rule of time
management is to touch each piece of paper only once -- ever.

/Lars


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Re: [users] OpenOffice, Go-OO, ODBC, Offline Data Entry

2010-08-18 Thread Drew
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 10:08 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: 
 On 08/18/2010 09:29 AM, Lord_Devi wrote:
  Here is the catch. The SQL database itself exists at a 'home office',
  and these workers are wanting to be able to enter this data remotely;
  in an 'offline mode' as it were.
 
 Some kind of local cache is needed.  As you point out the difficulty is
 with updating the central database.
 
 The update could be
 
 + triggered manually, putting the onus on the user to remember to do so
 once connected.

An example of this in Base would be:
There would be 2 odb files.
- One connects to the 'office server' database, call it office.obd.
- One uses the embedded HSQLdb engine for the 'mobile desktop' and call
this field.odb.
Each has a table named 'Transactions', with a common structure.
Updating manually then consists of:
-opening both files on the desktop
-drag the Transactions table from the field.odb window to the office.odb
window.
-drop the table object onto the Tables section.
-in the export data dialog that opens select, append data
-click finish
(in practice you might use a view in the field.odb for the transfer, to
make key handling easier)
-Open the Transaction table in the field.odb database, select all
records and delete them.
OK - so that is a zero coding solution (well, not counting creating a
view perhaps)

 
 + attempted regularly via cron
 
 + triggered via a script launched by the interfaces configuration once
 network connectivity is regained

next email


 
  I don't know if maybe having a local SQL database running on each 
  worker laptop which could somehow 'sync' the data would be a viable 
  option or not... That is something I have never tried before.
 
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Using_SQLite_With_OpenOffice.org
 
  ... they may have to enter the data twice: Once on-site, and a 2nd 
  time when they get back to the office. Essentially copying the
  offline data, into the 'live' forms essentially.
 
 Not a good choice.  That wastes more than work.  A central rule of time
 management is to touch each piece of paper only once -- ever.
 
 /Lars
 
 
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Fwd: RE: [users] openoffice 3

2010-07-30 Thread JOE Conner



 Original Message 
Subject:RE: [users] openoffice 3
Date:   Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:59:19 +0200
From:   Rob de Jong rfcdej...@hotmail.com
To: joseph.con...@comcast.net



Hallo Joe,

I will try if it is possible in that  v3.2.1
I think that you did understand my problem, my Englisch is not really 
good but I try to write it.


Thanks
Rob de Jong




 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:12:14 -0700
 From: joeconner2...@gmail.com
 To: users@openoffice.org; rfcdej...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [users] openoffice 3

 On 7/28/2010 2:51 PM, Rob de Jong wrote:
  Hallo,
 
 
 
  If it is possible, can you tell me why my Excel file wil not werk 
in openoffice 3?

 
  There are about 156.000 record, in Excel 2007 is it werking ok but 
I try for 3 years to install OpenOffice but it is not werking

 
  Vriendelijke Groet
 
  Rob de Jong
 Do you count each record in your Excel file as a row?

 Older OpenOffice.org versions were first limited to 32K lines, then
 upgraded to 64K lines. The version of OpenOffice.org that you are using
 may not have enough rows. The latest Oxygen Office v3.2.1 will accept
 over a million lines.

 Could this be what your problem is?

 Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

Recieved off-list.  Forward to USERS list in case anyone else can help him.
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Re: [users] openoffice 3

2010-07-29 Thread RA Brown

Rob de Jong wrote:

Hallo,

 


If it is possible, can you tell me why my Excel file wil not werk in openoffice 
3?

There are about 156.000 record, in Excel 2007 is it werking ok but I try for 3 
years to install OpenOffice but it is not werking

Vriendelijke Groet
 
Rob de Jong




Only taking a wild guess, but are there micros?  If so they will have to 
be converted to a form that OpenOffice.org understands.


Andy
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Re: [users] openoffice 3

2010-07-29 Thread JOE Conner

 On 7/28/2010 2:51 PM, Rob de Jong wrote:

Hallo,



If it is possible, can you tell me why my Excel file wil not werk in openoffice 
3?

There are about 156.000 record, in Excel 2007 is it werking ok but I try for 3 
years to install OpenOffice but it is not werking

Vriendelijke Groet

Rob de Jong

Do you count each record in your Excel file as a row?

Older OpenOffice.org versions were first limited to 32K lines, then 
upgraded to 64K lines.  The version of OpenOffice.org that you are using 
may not have enough rows.  The latest Oxygen Office v3.2.1 will accept 
over a million lines.


Could this be what your problem is?

Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [users] OpenOffice Math: how to slash a symbol?

2010-06-24 Thread openoffice . mbourne
+openoffice+mbourne+9e9f28eef1.inbetweenercom-openoffice#yahoo.com...@spamgourmet.com 
wrote:

I'm somewhat familiar with Microsoft Equation Editor (inside MS Word).
Few days ago, I started using OpenOffice Math. I liked it
very much, but I can't do some things with it. For example, with MS EE,
if I'd like to say that (x,y) in R I did write xRy, which
may be done with OO Math alike. But MS EE allows me to say that not
(x,y) in R by writing xR/y, but with the slash *over* the R. By
the way, this effect of slashing can be done with almost any letter or
symbol in MS EE. I simply don't know how to get the same
effect with OO Math.

May anyone help me?

Thanks in advance.


Not having access to MS software to check your examples, I'm not 
entirely sure what you're after, but do any of these help?


(x,y) in setR
newline
newline
(x,y) notin setR
newline
newline
overline{(x,y)} in setR
newline
newline
(x,y) in bar setR

Mark.


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Re: [users] Openoffice not opening

2010-05-22 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
My answer may not be timely, but, I just recently had this problem. I 
worked around it by:


Open OOo and tell it to NOT recover the document.
OOo then hung after opening a blank window, so, I killed it.
If I started OOo, it hung, so, I started it by double clicking on an OOo 
document.


Seems a bit silly, but, it worked for me.




On 05/09/2010 04:28 AM, David  Pat Corballis wrote:

My Openoffice refuses to open.
It started with Calc. It needed to recover the document
Whenever I open a calc programme, the Document Recovery Window comes up.
I press Start Recovery, it gets to work and Successfully Recovered 
appears. The trouble begins when I press Next .

Then a window - Runtime Error1 - appears - abnormal program termination.
I have now got 5 programs waiting recovery. They all recover only to 
be terminated again.


I can't run any calc programmes on Windows, and I have a similar 
problem when I switch over to Ubuntu.
And now none of my Openoffice programmes will run, including writer. 
As I attempt to open them an increasing number of* .-lock.* icons appear.


Would un-installing and re-installing, or downloading Openoffice again 
help?


David Corballis





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Re: [users] openoffice

2010-04-12 Thread Guy Voets
2010/4/11 MANOUCH MEYMANDI mmmeyma...@gmail.com:
 Still I do not know did I get the software to use for my convergen?

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Your question is not very clear: convergen?
You can download the program for free from www.openoffice.org
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Re: [users] Openoffice Draw How to save to odp file format

2010-03-12 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-12 3:45 PM, Klark Ooi wrote:
 When i open any pdf file in openoffice, it will open with draw. But from
 draw, how could I save to other openoffice format like odp for impress?
 Thanks.

PDF is just a wrapper that can contain just about anything, including
objects that really aren't editable.

It's a terminal-stage format in any document's lifecycle and not for
editing.  Can you get the originals that the PDF was created from?

/Lars




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Re: [users] Openoffice Draw How to save to odp file format

2010-03-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-03-12 8:45 AM, Klark Ooi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When i open any pdf file in openoffice, it will open with draw. But from
 draw, how could I save to other openoffice format like odp for impress?

Maybe you are looking for the PDF import plugin? I haven't used it but
it appears to work for some people:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport

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Re: [users] Openoffice insert picture

2010-02-22 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

On 22/02/2010 06:31, Klark Ooi wrote:

Hi,

I hate this. Not sure it is due to my setting or bug. Whenever i insert
a picture in impress or writer, I saved the file. But once I remove the
picture files, the same apply to my document and my pictures are gone. I
thought once inserted, the picture will be saved with the file. THanks.


It's because you inserted a link to the picture file, rather than the 
file itself. In OO.o 3.2 look for the tick box at the bottom left of the 
Insert from File dialogue box. In earlier versions look for something 
similar.


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Re: [users] Openoffice insert picture

2010-02-22 Thread Marcello Romani

Peter Hillier-Brook ha scritto:

On 22/02/2010 06:31, Klark Ooi wrote:

Hi,

I hate this. Not sure it is due to my setting or bug. Whenever i insert
a picture in impress or writer, I saved the file. But once I remove the
picture files, the same apply to my document and my pictures are gone. I
thought once inserted, the picture will be saved with the file. THanks.


It's because you inserted a link to the picture file, rather than the 
file itself. In OO.o 3.2 look for the tick box at the bottom left of the 
Insert from File dialogue box. In earlier versions look for something 
similar.


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And let's not forget that to actually insert an image into the document, 
and not a link to it, one should use the menu command insert - image - 
from file.


If one drags the image from the file manager onto the document, then a 
link is inserted.


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Re: [users] Openoffice Calc

2010-02-02 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2010/2/2 Aaron Blair me_u...@hotmail.com:
 To Whom This Concerns,

 I am trying to figure out a way, if there is a way, to create a special graph 
 for budgeting. I'm trying to make a pie graph that shows me how much I'm 
 spending for each category that I make (i.e. entertainment, gas, grocery, 
 ect.). The only thing I've been able to do is make a pie graph that shows me 
 how much I've spent for each individual category. For instance, I would have 
 three different places on the graph for food, instead of having one big 
 slice of the graph for food. Just wondering if there was any way to do 
 this, if it's even possible with Openoffice Calc.

I don't do graphs very much, but I would try to calculate the sum of
each individual category, maybe on a separate sheet (doesn't matter,
it's more a matter of taste, kind of), maybe with some DSUM functions
or something like that. Then I'd try to make a graph from those sums.

If I couldn't get that to work, I would probably try the data pilot
and make a graph from that.

Or maybe I totally misunderstood your problem.

Regards

Johnny Rosenberg



 Thanks for your time,

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Re: [users] OpenOffice (impress) How to export all slides to image file?

2010-01-29 Thread Christian Lippka

Hi Klark,

you can use the html export and later remove all the html files.
This can also be triggered by a basic macro where you can choose
your own pixel resolution.

Regards,
Christian

Klark Ooi wrote:
Hi, 


I was trying to convert my slides to image format. I used the export and
select image format (say jpeg), even i selected all slides, the export
result is only 1 slide. Any idea how to do it so that I can have all my
slides converted as 1 image file? thanks!

Warmest regards,
Klark




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Re: [users] OpenOffice (impress) How to export all slides to image file?

2010-01-29 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Click on the desired image, with the mouse right-click, and in the
menu appears an item with a name like save as.  Choose that and saved
picture.


Hope this is useful
Sylvia




2010/1/29 Klark Ooi :
 Hi,

 I was trying to convert my slides to image format. I used the export and
 select image format (say jpeg), even i selected all slides, the export
 result is only 1 slide. Any idea how to do it so that I can have all my
 slides converted as 1 image file? thanks!

 Warmest regards,
 Klark



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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.2 upgrade

2010-01-21 Thread Andis
Reinstalling is the only way, however you will not lost your profile 
information after reinstalling. I guess update function will also call 
for reinstalling. So, it's generally the same.


Andis


Klark Ooi wrote:

OO RC3 is out. Any idea how to upgrade from RC1? I tried the help 
check for updates...failed. Any idea and do not need to re-install?
thanks.

Warmest regards,
Klark

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From: Klark Ooi k...@redhat.com
Reply-to: users@openoffice.org
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.2
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:38:24 +0800


Any idea why this version takes so much memory? I have an instance
consuming 1GB memory with less than 3MB file opened.


Warmest regards,
Klark

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From: Klark Ooi k...@redhat.com
Reply-to: users@openoffice.org
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: [users] OpenOffice 3.2
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:45:43 +0800


Hi,

Just wish to share my experience so far on this version. Very stable,
hardly crash in Fedora 12. but the performance is not very good, quite
slow.

Warmest regards,
Klark






  


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Re: [users] OpenOffice Writer Guide as Master Document

2010-01-21 Thread RA Brown
sourcemaker wrote:
 Where can I download the complete OpenOffice Writer Guide 
 as master document with all it's including chapters?
 
 I can only find the single chapters on http://www.oooauthors.org
 

Have you tried http://documentation.openoffice.org/ .  This is the
English version but should work for you.

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.2

2010-01-19 Thread Klark Ooi
Any idea why this version takes so much memory? I have an instance
consuming 1GB memory with less than 3MB file opened.


Warmest regards,
Klark

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Reply-to: users@openoffice.org
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: [users] OpenOffice 3.2
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:45:43 +0800


Hi,

Just wish to share my experience so far on this version. Very stable,
hardly crash in Fedora 12. but the performance is not very good, quite
slow.

Warmest regards,
Klark





Re: [users] openoffice menu problem

2009-12-29 Thread Hagar de l'Est

Hi,

See that one: 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16t=10183

Don't forge to tell what is your OS (Ubuntu here I guess).

Hagar


Le 29/12/2009 04:48, drew einhorn a écrit :


All the menus are blanked out and unusable.
Looks like it might be some kind of system font problem.

Not sure I'm describing it properly, attached is a reasonable
sized screenshot (36K).




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Re: [users] openoffice menu problem

2009-12-28 Thread Programmer In Training
On 12/28/2009 9:48 PM, drew einhorn wrote:
 All the menus are blanked out and unusable.
 Looks like it might be some kind of system font problem.
 
 Not sure I'm describing it properly, attached is a reasonable
 sized screenshot (36K).

What screenshot?



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Re: [users] OpenOffice and Windows 7

2009-12-15 Thread Ian Davies

On 14/12/2009 21:04, ad...@web.de wrote:

Hallo,

I want to start working with the OpenOffice-Software.
Could someone tell me, if the current version
already runs on Windows 7??

Thank you in advance

Andreas Beck
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I have been using both Windows7 and OpenOffice3 and they work well 
together no problems


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Re: [users] Openoffice calc quick calculation

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Adams
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:51:37 +0800
Came this utterance formulated by Klark Ooi to my mailbox:

 Hi, 
 
 We have this small auto-calculation function at the bottom right when
 you select a range of values. Anyone knows how to switch to count
 instead of sum or average? thanks.

Use COUNT(range) instead of SUM(range) or AVERAGE(range).

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Re: [users] Openoffice calc quick calculation

2009-12-09 Thread TomW

Klark Ooi wrote:

Hi,

We have this small auto-calculation function at the bottom right when 
you select a range of values. Anyone knows how to switch to count 
instead of sum or average? thanks.






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Klark:

Right click on the 'Sum=' in the Status Bar and select 'Count' from the 
list.


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Re: [users] Openoffice does not work at all, it shows the splash and nothing further

2009-11-09 Thread legolas

Hi, 
Thank you for your helps. 

I removed the open office version, which I have installed manually, by
deleting its folder which was located in the /opt. Then I removed
/home/legolas/.openoffice.org directory.

The I issued 
sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo apt-get purge openoffice.org


Finally I installed openoffice using:

sudo apt-get install openoffice.org

The problem is still here :( and I can not do anything with office files. 

I attached the new strace log file, please let me know if you spotted
anything  in the log file which can help me fixing my computer.

Thank you.
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Re: [users] Openoffice does not work at all, it shows the splash and nothing further

2009-11-09 Thread legolas


Hi
I found the problem by running 

strace /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin

There was a culprit font in /home/legolas/.fonts which was causing a
segmentation fault in the system.the font name was aquabase_spanish

Thanks everyone who looked into my problem.
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Re: [users] Openoffice does not work at all, it shows the splash and nothing further

2009-11-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 07.11.2009 07:47, legolas a écrit :
 Hello everyone.

 I can not use openoffice in my ubuntu 9.10. I tried running oowriter in the
 console to see what kind of problems it faces which prevent it from opening
 but it just showd the splash screen and crashed without any error in the
 console.
   
Try to remove personal config directory .openoffice.org in your home
(hidden directory) and restart OpenOffice.org.

Regards
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Re: [users] Openoffice Security Issue

2009-10-30 Thread Harold Fuchs
2009/10/30 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com

 At 20:38 29/10/2009 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:

 Brian Barker wrote:

 [...]

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 *Please* don't do this.  I knew what I was doing: my reply did not address
 the initial questioner's query, but only that of the person I quoted, who
 *is* subscribed.


Yes, this was an error; I saw that your message was in the thread started by
the OP and that therefore the reply was aimed at the OP. I will try to pay
closer attention.


 If you wish, why not answer the original questioner yourself?


Because I didn't have a solution to the problem, because you have what
sounds like a correct and reasonable solution to the problem, because I
thought the OP should benefit from that solution, because I thought that if
I didn't forward your message the OP would go unanswered (in his eyes) and,
finally, because I think that leaving an OP unanswered when there is a
perfectly good answer is not polite.


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Re: [users] Openoffice Security Issue

2009-10-29 Thread Gallomimia
Upon investigating this attachment, I have found that the entire sheet
is protected, which is easily removed without any password. I cannot
find any way to protect only a given range of cells with OOoCalc.
There is no respect for the security added by MSO2k3 and no way to
protect only a given range of cells, which this document clearly
demonstrates an example of the use of such a feature.

This is not the first time I have heard of this issue. I do believe
there is an issue in the issue tracker open on this subject. Some have
said that the issue does not exist, but I can see that it does. I have
used OOo 3.1 RC2 for PPC-Mac, en-GB to do this testing.

I have also tested with OOo 320m2 for PPC-Mac en-US and the result is the same.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Ahamed Fasudeen ah.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Team,

 I'm newly use openoffice...I have some query realted for password security.

 Currently i'm using MSoffice2003. In that i have protect the sheet 
 workbook

 And i have protect the cell A2:C22(attached sheet) with password range,in
 msoffice2003 once i click
 the A2:C22(cell) it will pop-up password box once i give the password it
 will allow to enter
 the data. And in D2:D22 with out range password user will edit without
 password.

 When i use to open the msoffice speared  sheet to openoffice... entire
 restriction was removed by calc(openoffice)

 i don't why it was happenwith less security in open office.

 Could you please provide me the fix for this issue

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Re: [users] Openoffice Security Issue

2009-10-29 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:10 29/10/2009 -0700, Gallomimia Noname wrote:

I cannot find any way to protect only a given range of cells with OOoCalc.


o  Select relevant cell ranges and go to Format | Cells... | Cell 
Protection | Protection (or right-click | Format Cells... | Cell 
Protection | Protection) and tick Protected - or not - as required.
o  Now go to Tools | Protect Document  | Sheet... to protect the 
entire sheet.  Now some cell ranges are protected and others not.


I do believe there is an issue in the issue tracker open on this 
subject. Some have said that the issue does not exist, but I can see 
that it does.


If I understand you correctly, I fear they are right.

I trust this helps.

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Re: [users] Openoffice Security Issue

2009-10-29 Thread Harold Fuchs

Brian Barker wrote:

At 13:10 29/10/2009 -0700, Gallomimia Noname wrote:
I cannot find any way to protect only a given range of cells with 
OOoCalc.


o  Select relevant cell ranges and go to Format | Cells... | Cell 
Protection | Protection (or right-click | Format Cells... | Cell 
Protection | Protection) and tick Protected - or not - as required.
o  Now go to Tools | Protect Document  | Sheet... to protect the 
entire sheet.  Now some cell ranges are protected and others not.


I do believe there is an issue in the issue tracker open on this 
subject. Some have said that the issue does not exist, but I can see 
that it does.


If I understand you correctly, I fear they are right.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker




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Re: [users] Openoffice Security Issue

2009-10-29 Thread Gallomimia
Thanks for the information Brian. I have tried the procedure you
outlined using the document provided by Ahamed. Prior to being able to
change any options such as cell protection, the entire sheet must be
Unprotected. This requires no password at first. I'm still not sure if
it should, as the document Ahamed provided is .xls and may or may not
have a password.

After removing the sheet protection, individual cells or ranges of
cells may be protected or not. In the document provided by Ahamed it
appears that all cells are marked protected. After following the
procedure (two attempts were required to succeed) and reapplying the
sheet protection, the desired operation is achieved; The first three
columns are protected as if they were static data, and the remaining
columns can be modified as if they were a working document.

So the only question which remains for me, is if the program should
ask for a password prior to unprotecting the sheet. As has been
suggested by others addressing concerns such as this, it may be an
issue with MSO2k3 not protecting the document properly in the first
place. Is there any fix for this? It seems like a heavy concern for
users of the software.

Can someone who has access to MSO2k3 and other versions please test
whether the password is stripped after the proprietary document format
is opened and modified by OOo?

This discussion should be moved to a pertinent issue.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:
 At 13:10 29/10/2009 -0700, Gallomimia Noname wrote:

 I cannot find any way to protect only a given range of cells with OOoCalc.

 o  Select relevant cell ranges and go to Format | Cells... | Cell Protection
 | Protection (or right-click | Format Cells... | Cell Protection |
 Protection) and tick Protected - or not - as required.
 o  Now go to Tools | Protect Document  | Sheet... to protect the entire
 sheet.  Now some cell ranges are protected and others not.

 I do believe there is an issue in the issue tracker open on this subject.
 Some have said that the issue does not exist, but I can see that it does.

 If I understand you correctly, I fear they are right.

 I trust this helps.

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Re: [users] Openoffice Security Issue

2009-10-29 Thread Brian Barker

At 20:38 29/10/2009 +, Harold Fuchs wrote:

Brian Barker wrote:

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Re: [users] Openoffice Security Issue

2009-10-29 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:26 29/10/2009 -0700, Gallomimia wrote:
I have tried the procedure you outlined using the document provided 
by Ahamed. Prior to being able to change any options such as cell 
protection, the entire sheet must be Unprotected. This requires no 
password at first. I'm still not sure if it should, as the document 
Ahamed provided is .xls and may or may not have a password.


I'm guessing that any such protection would be under the control of a 
password.  And yes: in order for the protection to remain controlled 
by the password, it would be necessary for this protection removal to 
require the password.


So the only question which remains for me, is if the program should 
ask for a password prior to unprotecting the sheet. As has been 
suggested by others addressing concerns such as this, it may be an 
issue with MSO2k3 not protecting the document properly in the first place.


No: I've opened it in Excel 2003, and the relevant cells are 
password-protected as you would expect.  And the password is required 
in order to remove the protection.


Is there any fix for this? It seems like a heavy concern for users 
of the software.


If you want to use this password protection, I think you need to 
stick with one product and its native format: either Excel and .xls 
or Calc and .ods.


Can someone who has access to MSO2k3 and other versions please test 
whether the password is stripped after the proprietary document 
format is opened and modified by OOo?


I've reset the password protection in Calc as you describe, resaved 
as .xls, and then opened the resulting file in Excel 2003.  The 
result is the same as in the other direction: the protection is still 
in place, but it can be removed without providing any password.


There are some details about this in the help text at Microsoft 
Office;importing password protected files.


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RE: [users] Openoffice issues

2009-10-14 Thread zhu xiaodong
Hello all;
 
Thanks the feedback. Actually the permission has been set. But it doesn't
work.
I found that this problem also happened in MacOS. Pls see
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=89933
So I think the issue is related to Openoffice itself. The issue reported
above is similar with my issue.
Maybe we think of the two together to find a solution.
 
Regards
Zhu xiaodong
 

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From: Harold Fuchs [mailto:hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:10 AM
To: users@openoffice.org; xiaodong@scsemicon.com
Subject: Re: [users] Openoffice issues


Sylvia Sánchez wrote: 

Change the file permissions, to put it as everybody is allowed for

Read/Write operations.  That's the way:  Right click in file  Properties 

Permissions

Maybe the names are not exactly that (I'm spanish user) but is pretty like

that.



Regards

Sylvia





2009/10/13 zhu xiaodong



  

Hello all;



I am a user of openoffice. Now we encounter some issues which need to be

fix

soon. Could some of you give me some hints for them? Thanks in advance.

The issues are :

1 if I open a file from a network share, it opens in read only mode only if

I am not the owner.

If I copy the file to my desktop and then copy and replace the file on the

server, I can now open it without the Ready-Only happening.

But that file cannot be opened by someone else without the Read-Only

happening.

This does not happen with any other program, Word, Adobe products, etc, and

files on our server, only Openoffice.

I can even take the same file that opens as read-only in OpenOffice and

open

it in Word or TextEdit and it is fine.



2 if I login unix with the language setting is English(canada) which can

input Chinese words, the openoffice is always crashed. Or could not be run.

If I use the system default setting for the language setting(English -

United States ISO8859-1), there is no problem.



Did you enounter these problem? How do you deal with them? Any suggestion

are high appreciated.

Hope can get you feedback, thanks a lot.



PS: our OS is Solaris 10, and the openoffice version is 3.1.0 , and the

file

server is netapp.



Regards

Zhu xiaodong













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Re: [users] Openoffice issues

2009-10-13 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Change the file permissions, to put it as everybody is allowed for
Read/Write operations.  That's the way:  Right click in file  Properties 
Permissions
Maybe the names are not exactly that (I'm spanish user) but is pretty like
that.

Regards
Sylvia


2009/10/13 zhu xiaodong

 Hello all;

 I am a user of openoffice. Now we encounter some issues which need to be
 fix
 soon. Could some of you give me some hints for them? Thanks in advance.
 The issues are :
 1 if I open a file from a network share, it opens in read only mode only if
 I am not the owner.
 If I copy the file to my desktop and then copy and replace the file on the
 server, I can now open it without the Ready-Only happening.
 But that file cannot be opened by someone else without the Read-Only
 happening.
 This does not happen with any other program, Word, Adobe products, etc, and
 files on our server, only Openoffice.
 I can even take the same file that opens as read-only in OpenOffice and
 open
 it in Word or TextEdit and it is fine.

 2 if I login unix with the language setting is English(canada) which can
 input Chinese words, the openoffice is always crashed. Or could not be run.
 If I use the system default setting for the language setting(English -
 United States ISO8859-1), there is no problem.

 Did you enounter these problem? How do you deal with them? Any suggestion
 are high appreciated.
 Hope can get you feedback, thanks a lot.

 PS: our OS is Solaris 10, and the openoffice version is 3.1.0 , and the
 file
 server is netapp.

 Regards
 Zhu xiaodong






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Re: [users] Openoffice issues

2009-10-13 Thread Harold Fuchs

Sylvia Sánchez wrote:

Change the file permissions, to put it as everybody is allowed for
Read/Write operations.  That's the way:  Right click in file  Properties 
Permissions
Maybe the names are not exactly that (I'm spanish user) but is pretty like
that.

Regards
Sylvia


2009/10/13 zhu xiaodong

  

Hello all;

I am a user of openoffice. Now we encounter some issues which need to be
fix
soon. Could some of you give me some hints for them? Thanks in advance.
The issues are :
1 if I open a file from a network share, it opens in read only mode only if
I am not the owner.
If I copy the file to my desktop and then copy and replace the file on the
server, I can now open it without the Ready-Only happening.
But that file cannot be opened by someone else without the Read-Only
happening.
This does not happen with any other program, Word, Adobe products, etc, and
files on our server, only Openoffice.
I can even take the same file that opens as read-only in OpenOffice and
open
it in Word or TextEdit and it is fine.

2 if I login unix with the language setting is English(canada) which can
input Chinese words, the openoffice is always crashed. Or could not be run.
If I use the system default setting for the language setting(English -
United States ISO8859-1), there is no problem.

Did you enounter these problem? How do you deal with them? Any suggestion
are high appreciated.
Hope can get you feedback, thanks a lot.

PS: our OS is Solaris 10, and the openoffice version is 3.1.0 , and the
file
server is netapp.

Regards
Zhu xiaodong






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Re: [users] openoffice send mail

2009-09-21 Thread jomali
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:34 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:

 snip

 Lars, given that I have a so-called «broadband» connexion, rather than a
 dial-up, I can't see any advantages for me in using an email client rather
 than directly loading my webmail provider. If you know any way of
 configuring OOo to directly send a document as an attachment in (in my
 case)
 Gmail, rather than taking a detour via Swiftdove/Thunderbird, I'd be most
 grateful to hear it !...

 Henri

Henri,

What you're asking for is an e-mail client to be incorporated into OOo. As I
recall, this has been asked for many times before, but the developers don't
seem to want to use their time developing something that is already
available in already mature open source applications like Thunderbird and
Seamonkey. Thus, whether you like it or not, to send an e-mail message from
OOo, you will have to use one of the open source e-mail clients, configured
to use Gmail as its default account. It's very easy to do, and has no
downside except having to download and install the desired client.

John


Re: [users] openoffice send mail

2009-09-21 Thread Lars Nooden
jomali wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:34 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 snip

 Lars, given that I have a so-called «broadband» connexion, rather than a
 dial-up, I can't see any advantages for me in using an email client rather
 than directly loading my webmail provider. If you know any way of
 configuring OOo to directly send a document as an attachment in (in my
 case)
 Gmail, rather than taking a detour via Swiftdove/Thunderbird, I'd be most
 grateful to hear it !...

Henri, I can appreciate wishing to stick with the mail client of your
choice, especially since that choice enhances, not infringes, upon the
ability of others to also decide.

As mentioned, you can launch FF directly into composing a message,
   /usr/bin/firefox 'https://mail.google.com/mail/h/?v=bpv=tlcs=b'

That saves a step, but someone else will have to figure out the final
step(s) in getting the attachment there automatically.

Here is the thread I started for that on the GMail Help Forum:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=5f6bb4d9a668392ahl=en


A work-around might be for thunderbird or alpine to shoot the attachment
laden message into the drafts folder and then launch firefox.

 Henri

 Henri,
 
 What you're asking for is an e-mail client to be incorporated into OOo. As I
 recall, this has been asked for many times before, but the ...

lol
but the askers don't really understand that an e-mail client is just a
front end to flat-file databases.  Where the UI and the register site
are independent.  Really that used to be learned in school when
'comptuers' were taught.  Anyway, the many times it was asked before got
two answers[1]: 1. OOo supports just about any E-Mail client, it's the
user's choice, 2. a solution would be to bundle Thunderbird [2]
At least for OS X, Linux, Solaris or BSD users, it's a non-issue.
/

Keep in mind, a well designed system (including a desktop) is modular
and components can and should be interchangeable.  These days only one
brand is not well designed, to make use of understatement.

Also, sending or receiving attachments seem to be a symptom of missing
infrastructure components.  Not too long ago, nearly 100% of pc-using
businesses had at least one pool of interconnected file servers.

/Lars

[1] Actually three, here's the third answer:
'Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail'

[2]
OpenOffice bundles Mozilla, And Firefox-style extensions added.
Techworld, 22 Sept 2006.  Math Broersma
http://news.techworld.com/applications/6944/openoffice-bundles-mozilla/

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RE: [users] openoffice send mail

2009-09-20 Thread John Meyer
They also provide POP interfaces as well.

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From: Lars Nooden [mailto:lars.cura...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:24 AM
To: users@openoffice.org; mr.mcmil...@gmail.com
Subject: [users] openoffice send mail

NoOp wrote:
 Above also works with Thunderbird. Again, I don't/won't use gmail, so
 you'll need to sort that bit out on your own... sorry.

Mail provides mail service with the standard, IMAP:
 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=75725

IMAP clients like Thunderbird will thus work with GMail.



The first step to launch a web browser instead of a regular mail client,
is something like this:
 /usr/bin/firefox https://mail.google.com/

To launch firefox into gmail and directly into the compose function:
 /usr/bin/firefox 'https://mail.google.com/mail/h/?v=bpv=tlcs=b'

Be sure to note the single quotes there.  Figuring out how to add the
attachment automatically requires something additional.  Don't know what
just now.

Regards,
-Lars
PS.

If people are sending attachments, then there is some failure in the
work flow.  Attachments are not an appropriate substitute for a proper
networked filesystem.

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Re: [users] openoffice send mail

2009-09-20 Thread M Henri Day
2009/9/18 Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com

 NoOp wrote:
  Above also works with Thunderbird. Again, I don't/won't use gmail, so
  you'll need to sort that bit out on your own... sorry.

 Mail provides mail service with the standard, IMAP:
  http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=75725

 IMAP clients like Thunderbird will thus work with GMail.



 The first step to launch a web browser instead of a regular mail client,
 is something like this:
  /usr/bin/firefox https://mail.google.com/

 To launch firefox into gmail and directly into the compose function:
  /usr/bin/firefox 'https://mail.google.com/mail/h/?v=bpv=tlcs=b'

 Be sure to note the single quotes there.  Figuring out how to add the
 attachment automatically requires something additional.  Don't know what
 just now.

 Regards,
 -Lars
 PS.

 If people are sending attachments, then there is some failure in the
 work flow.  Attachments are not an appropriate substitute for a proper
 networked filesystem.


Lars, given that I have a so-called «broadband» connexion, rather than a
dial-up, I can't see any advantages for me in using an email client rather
than directly loading my webmail provider. If you know any way of
configuring OOo to directly send a document as an attachment in (in my case)
Gmail, rather than taking a detour via Swiftdove/Thunderbird, I'd be most
grateful to hear it !...

Henri


Re: [users] OpenOffice Basic - Converting Spreadsheet formulas into string

2009-09-18 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2009/9/18 Darren Forster darrenforste...@gmail.com:
 Is there anyway to convert the Cell.Formula value into a Cell.String value
 in OpenOffice Basic?  I've thought maybe Cell.Formula.String would work but
 it doesn't.

If you have Xray installed, you can see what options you have with an object.
Don't set variables directly if there are methods for it. In this case
there are methods like setBlahblahblah and getBlahblahblah(), so use
them.

To examine an object with Xray, try something like this:

Option Explicit
Sub Test
Dim Sheet As Object, Cell As Object
Sheet=ThisComponent.getSheets().getByName(Sheet1)
Cell=Sheet.getCellByPosition(0,0)

Xray Cell
End Sub

A dialogue opens and you can select what kind of information you want.
Select Methods and click the Sort A-Z button. Now look for stuff that
begins with get and set.

Well, that was not an answer to your question, but I'm not sure I understand it…

Let's say we have a cell and we want the formuia:

Option Explicit
Sub Test
Dim Sheet As Object, Cell As Object
Sheet=ThisComponent.getSheets().getByName(Sheet1)
Cell=Sheet.getCellByPosition(0,0)

Dim TheFormula As String
TheFormula=Cell.getFormula()
End Sub

TheFormula now contains the cell formula of A1 which is a string.
Let's say that A1 contains =B1+B2, and let's assume that B1=40 and
B2=50. Are you saying that you now would like Cell.String to be 90
or perhaps B1+B2?

I did some experimenting, and if you want the same effect as Paste
Special → Text+Numbers, this should work:

Option Explicit

Sub Test
Dim Sheet As Object, Cell As Object
Sheet=ThisComponent.getSheets().getByName(Sheet1)
Cell=Sheet.getCellByPosition(0,0)

Cell.setFormula(Cell.getString())
End Sub

Or maybe this is more what you are looking for:

Sub Test
Dim Sheet As Object, Cell As Object
Sheet=ThisComponent.getSheets().getByName(Sheet1)
Cell=Sheet.getCellByPosition(0,0)

Cell.setString(Cell.getString())
End Sub


In the example above, A1 will now contain '90. The ' is not displayed,
but 90 will be aligned to the left.

Johnny Rosenberg



 Also the same for converting from Formula to Value it would be really handy
 if there was.


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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.0 Writer Index problem

2009-09-15 Thread Arun Shrimali
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:
 Arun Shrimali wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:


 Arun Shrimali wrote:


 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Andy a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:



 Arun Shrimali wrote:



 Dear All,

 I am using Openoffice 3.0.1 over Ubuntu 9.04

 I have created a long document with outlined numbering (bullets and
 numbering), means the heading has numbered 1 and subheading has 1.1
 and so one (these numbers are auto generated by OO's Bullets and
 numbering tools). The complete text / document is under numbering.

 Now I want to have the Index which has the numbering list upto level
 3.

 I have tried a lot could not get the bullets list in Index.

 Can anybody help me.




 Try looking at the 0212WG3 users guide.  The user guides for Writer can
 be
 found at
 http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published
 .

 The guides are in .odt and .pdf format so you have a choice in how to
 view
 them.  You can also download the full set of guides near the bottom of
 the
 web page in a .zip package.

 Hope this helps.

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 Dear Andy,

 Really thanks for your support. But the documents helps to create
 index in numbering, but does not help to create index if content is
 already in numbering and bullets.

 regards

 Arun


 It's not clear (at least to me) exactly what you're trying to accomplish
 here. Could you give us an example of what content you have and what kind
 of
 index you'd like to generate? ODF attachments generally make it into the
 list, or you could save something on the web or maybe just show us in an
 e-mail.

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 Dear Barbara,

 I am enclosing herewith a part of the document, of which I would like
 to have the Table of content upto level three.


 Arun

 Thanks for the example, Arun, now it's a lot clearer. The way Writer
 determines what goes in the TOC is generally dictated by the definitions and
 use of paragraph styles, and by default that means Heading 1, Heading 2, and
 so on, for the kind of TOC you want. Tools  Outline numbering would then be
 used to associate the headings at the various levels with the numbering
 style and separator characters you want. You've set up the numbering without
 using the heading levels, and apparently with all your headings in Default
 paragraph style, so there was no association for the TOC to use -- it needs
 paragraph styles, though they don't necessarily have to be the usual ones.
 So I think you'll need to remove the current numbering, and apply the
 heading styles and outline numbering. Hope this helps!

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Thanks Barbara,

I am trying to use heading style and outline numbering ..

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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.0 Writer Index problem

2009-09-11 Thread Barbara Duprey

Arun Shrimali wrote:

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:
  

Arun Shrimali wrote:


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Andy a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:

  

Arun Shrimali wrote:



Dear All,

I am using Openoffice 3.0.1 over Ubuntu 9.04

I have created a long document with outlined numbering (bullets and
numbering), means the heading has numbered 1 and subheading has 1.1
and so one (these numbers are auto generated by OO's Bullets and
numbering tools). The complete text / document is under numbering.

Now I want to have the Index which has the numbering list upto level 3.

I have tried a lot could not get the bullets list in Index.

Can anybody help me.


  

Try looking at the 0212WG3 users guide.  The user guides for Writer can
be
found at
http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published
.

The guides are in .odt and .pdf format so you have a choice in how to
view
them.  You can also download the full set of guides near the bottom of
the
web page in a .zip package.

Hope this helps.

--
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Dear Andy,

Really thanks for your support. But the documents helps to create
index in numbering, but does not help to create index if content is
already in numbering and bullets.

regards

Arun
  

It's not clear (at least to me) exactly what you're trying to accomplish
here. Could you give us an example of what content you have and what kind of
index you'd like to generate? ODF attachments generally make it into the
list, or you could save something on the web or maybe just show us in an
e-mail.

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Dear Barbara,

I am enclosing herewith a part of the document, of which I would like
to have the Table of content upto level three.


Arun


Thanks for the example, Arun, now it's a lot clearer. The way Writer 
determines what goes in the TOC is generally dictated by the definitions 
and use of paragraph styles, and by default that means Heading 1, 
Heading 2, and so on, for the kind of TOC you want. Tools  Outline 
numbering would then be used to associate the headings at the various 
levels with the numbering style and separator characters you want. 
You've set up the numbering without using the heading levels, and 
apparently with all your headings in Default paragraph style, so there 
was no association for the TOC to use -- it needs paragraph styles, 
though they don't necessarily have to be the usual ones. So I think 
you'll need to remove the current numbering, and apply the heading 
styles and outline numbering. Hope this helps!


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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.0 Writer Index problem

2009-09-10 Thread Barbara Duprey

Arun Shrimali wrote:

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Andy a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:
  

Arun Shrimali wrote:


Dear All,

I am using Openoffice 3.0.1 over Ubuntu 9.04

I have created a long document with outlined numbering (bullets and
numbering), means the heading has numbered 1 and subheading has 1.1
and so one (these numbers are auto generated by OO's Bullets and
numbering tools). The complete text / document is under numbering.

Now I want to have the Index which has the numbering list upto level 3.

I have tried a lot could not get the bullets list in Index.

Can anybody help me.

  

Try looking at the 0212WG3 users guide.  The user guides for Writer can be
found at http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published
.

The guides are in .odt and .pdf format so you have a choice in how to view
them.  You can also download the full set of guides near the bottom of the
web page in a .zip package.

Hope this helps.

--
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La Mesa, CA  91942
www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html
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Dear Andy,

Really thanks for your support. But the documents helps to create
index in numbering, but does not help to create index if content is
already in numbering and bullets.

regards

Arun


It's not clear (at least to me) exactly what you're trying to accomplish 
here. Could you give us an example of what content you have and what 
kind of index you'd like to generate? ODF attachments generally make it 
into the list, or you could save something on the web or maybe just show 
us in an e-mail.


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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.0 Writer Index problem

2009-09-10 Thread Arun Shrimali
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:
 Arun Shrimali wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Andy a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:


 Arun Shrimali wrote:


 Dear All,

 I am using Openoffice 3.0.1 over Ubuntu 9.04

 I have created a long document with outlined numbering (bullets and
 numbering), means the heading has numbered 1 and subheading has 1.1
 and so one (these numbers are auto generated by OO's Bullets and
 numbering tools). The complete text / document is under numbering.

 Now I want to have the Index which has the numbering list upto level 3.

 I have tried a lot could not get the bullets list in Index.

 Can anybody help me.



 Try looking at the 0212WG3 users guide.  The user guides for Writer can
 be
 found at
 http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published
 .

 The guides are in .odt and .pdf format so you have a choice in how to
 view
 them.  You can also download the full set of guides near the bottom of
 the
 web page in a .zip package.

 Hope this helps.

 --
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 La Mesa, CA  91942
 www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html
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 Dear Andy,

 Really thanks for your support. But the documents helps to create
 index in numbering, but does not help to create index if content is
 already in numbering and bullets.

 regards

 Arun

 It's not clear (at least to me) exactly what you're trying to accomplish
 here. Could you give us an example of what content you have and what kind of
 index you'd like to generate? ODF attachments generally make it into the
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Dear Barbara,

I am enclosing herewith a part of the document, of which I would like
to have the Table of content upto level three.


Arun


ITQS Manual sample.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.0 Writer Index problem

2009-09-09 Thread Andy

Arun Shrimali wrote:

Dear All,

I am using Openoffice 3.0.1 over Ubuntu 9.04

I have created a long document with outlined numbering (bullets and
numbering), means the heading has numbered 1 and subheading has 1.1
and so one (these numbers are auto generated by OO's Bullets and
numbering tools). The complete text / document is under numbering.

Now I want to have the Index which has the numbering list upto level 3.

I have tried a lot could not get the bullets list in Index.

Can anybody help me.



Try looking at the 0212WG3 users guide.  The user guides for Writer can 
be found at 
http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published .


The guides are in .odt and .pdf format so you have a choice in how to 
view them.  You can also download the full set of guides near the bottom 
of the web page in a .zip package.


Hope this helps.

--
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La Mesa, CA  91942
www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html
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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.0 Writer Index problem

2009-09-09 Thread Arun Shrimali
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Andy a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote:
 Arun Shrimali wrote:

 Dear All,

 I am using Openoffice 3.0.1 over Ubuntu 9.04

 I have created a long document with outlined numbering (bullets and
 numbering), means the heading has numbered 1 and subheading has 1.1
 and so one (these numbers are auto generated by OO's Bullets and
 numbering tools). The complete text / document is under numbering.

 Now I want to have the Index which has the numbering list upto level 3.

 I have tried a lot could not get the bullets list in Index.

 Can anybody help me.


 Try looking at the 0212WG3 users guide.  The user guides for Writer can be
 found at http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published
 .

 The guides are in .odt and .pdf format so you have a choice in how to view
 them.  You can also download the full set of guides near the bottom of the
 web page in a .zip package.

 Hope this helps.

 --
 Andy Brown
 La Mesa, CA  91942
 www.the-martin-byrd.net/openoffice.org.html
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Dear Andy,

Really thanks for your support. But the documents helps to create
index in numbering, but does not help to create index if content is
already in numbering and bullets.

regards

Arun

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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.1 on Mac 10.5

2009-08-27 Thread Guy Voets
2009/8/26 James bjloc...@lockie.ca:
 On 08/26/09 14:15, Srikanth Konjarla wrote:

 All,

 I am running OpenOffice 3.1 on Mac OS X 10.5. I connect the MacBook Pro to
 the external monitor and the OpenOffice application font goes small and
 becomes almost not viewable. However, with local dispaly (LCD) the font
 looks just fine. Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks

 Srikanth

 Does the font size actually change or does it just look smaller because it's
 on a bigger monitor?

Hello,

What happens  if you change the zoom factor in View  Zoom in and out?

-- 
Guy
using dutch OOo Aqua 3.1.1 on a iMac Intel DualCore Leopard
and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.1.1 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
-- please reply only to users@openoffice.org --
Dodoes can't afford to have headaches

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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.1 on Mac 10.5

2009-08-27 Thread Andrew Fisk
decrease the resolution on the external monitor -- Apple -- System  
Preferences -- displays.  Try to come up with something that is close  
to the resolution of your laptop display.



Thanks

Andy
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On Aug 27, 2009, at Thursday, August 27, 200911:09 AM, Srikanth  
Konjarla wrote:


That would make changes to the size in the document. However, the  
size of fonts of the application (such as font name, font size and  
bottom status bar etc.) remain tiny.


Srikanth

Guy Voets wrote:

2009/8/26 James bjloc...@lockie.ca:

On 08/26/09 14:15, Srikanth Konjarla wrote:

All,

I am running OpenOffice 3.1 on Mac OS X 10.5. I connect the  
MacBook Pro to
the external monitor and the OpenOffice application font goes  
small and
becomes almost not viewable. However, with local dispaly (LCD)  
the font

looks just fine. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Srikanth
Does the font size actually change or does it just look smaller  
because it's

on a bigger monitor?

Hello,
What happens  if you change the zoom factor in View  Zoom in and  
out?


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Re: [users] Openoffice 3.1 on Mac 10.5

2009-08-26 Thread James

On 08/26/09 14:15, Srikanth Konjarla wrote:

All,

I am running OpenOffice 3.1 on Mac OS X 10.5. I connect the MacBook 
Pro to the external monitor and the OpenOffice application font goes 
small and becomes almost not viewable. However, with local dispaly 
(LCD) the font looks just fine. Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks

Srikanth
Does the font size actually change or does it just look smaller because 
it's on a bigger monitor?



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Re: [users] openoffice gridlines

2009-08-24 Thread John Gregson
Glen.

I had the same experience; this is what I found; the hard way!

Go to Tools/Options/Appearance.
Scroll down to TEXT DOCUMENT
Then to GRID.
Change from Automatic to Black.

Scroll down to SPREADSHEET
Repeat as above

Scroll down to DRAWING / PRESENTATION
Repeat as above
==

John.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Glen Stanley-Turner
  To: users@openoffice.org
  Sent: 24 Aug, 2009 8:48 AM
  Subject: [users] openoffice gridlines


  When I open some spreadsheets the page is blank ie no gridlines 
except maybe
  formatted underlines etc. I want to see the gridlines on screen and 
when
  printing how do I turn it on?





Re: [users] openoffice gridlines

2009-08-24 Thread Gene Young

Glen Stanley-Turner wrote:

When I open some spreadsheets the page is blank ie no gridlines except maybe
formatted underlines etc. I want to see the gridlines on screen and when
printing how do I turn it on?

 





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In Calc:
To display the table boundaries, go to Tools  Options  
OpenOffice.org Calc  View and check Grid lines.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice Oddities

2009-08-17 Thread Barbara Duprey

Mark Howe wrote:
  Below are some examples of  punctuation that has popped up during editing of text from OCR software.  They are accompanied by greyed out spaces.  
« town » This should have been   


 Susie This showed up as '   '   after the first change but showed up   
  here.

 girl »   In this case one changed and the other didn't.



Another situation is where a short series of dashes converts to a horizontal line and then replicates itself every time I hit enter.  
I assume these are AutoCorrect problems but I do not know what they are.  


I have only seen these things happen when I am editing text.



Mark W. Howe


Mark, in Tools  AutoCorrect, Custom Quotes tab, you can select the 
characters to use for starting and ending single and double quotes; by 
default, they are the straight quote and double-quote characters. Are 
those as expected? A related option is under the Options tab, Replace 
standardquotes with custom quotes. Also under the Options tab, if 
you deselect the Apply border option you should eliminate the automatic 
lines -- they're actually created as the bottom border of the preceding 
paragraph. There's more about all this in the built-in Help information, 
you might find more things in there that you'd like to change.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 Registration

2009-07-13 Thread Guy Voets
2009/7/9 John hopeinangu...@frontiernet.net:
 To Whom It May Concern,

 Not to start out on the wrong foot, but the help/support feature for
 OpenOffice is a bit exasperating to use. Who has time to wade through tons
 of stuff when they only want a simple answer?

 Ever since the recent update to OpenOffice 3.1 every time I start up my
 computer I am asked if I want to register OpenOffice. I have already
 registered it. This is not a big deal since I simply click on the do not
 register option. It's just annoying. Is there any way to stop being prompted
 to register?

 Again, I don't have time to search through your help/support forums. I have
 tried and I have not found anything that addresses this issue; at least,
 nothing that helps. I tried the one thing that I found - something about
 disabling the registration wizard - and it did not work.

 Sincerely,
 John


Hello John,

Isn't there a 'Never Register' option instead of 'Not Register (now)'?
I download a new version about once a month, and only register again
every year or so...

-- 
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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 Registration

2009-07-13 Thread Malcolm Moore
Have you tried looking here

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Deactivating_Registration_Wizard

regards

M

Oh, Bother, said the Borg. We've assimilated Pooh.
  _  

From: Guy Voets [mailto:nimant...@gmail.com]
To: users@openoffice.org
Cc: John [mailto:hopeinangu...@frontiernet.net]
Sent: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:40:32 +0100
Subject: Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 Registration

2009/7/9 John hopeinangu...@frontiernet.net:
   To Whom It May Concern,
  
   Not to start out on the wrong foot, but the help/support feature for
   OpenOffice is a bit exasperating to use. Who has time to wade through tons
   of stuff when they only want a simple answer?
  
   Ever since the recent update to OpenOffice 3.1 every time I start up my
   computer I am asked if I want to register OpenOffice. I have already
   registered it. This is not a big deal since I simply click on the do not
   register option. It's just annoying. Is there any way to stop being prompted
   to register?
  
   Again, I don't have time to search through your help/support forums. I have
   tried and I have not found anything that addresses this issue; at least,
   nothing that helps. I tried the one thing that I found - something about
   disabling the registration wizard - and it did not work.
  
   Sincerely,
   John
  
  
  Hello John,
  
  Isn't there a 'Never Register' option instead of 'Not Register (now)'?
  I download a new version about once a month, and only register again
  every year or so...
  
  -- 
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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1.0 doesn't work without registration!!!

2009-06-29 Thread James Knott
Spiderman wrote:
 Hi,
 I don't like open office any more. Since last week open office 3.1.0 is
 pop-ing up a registration request by each program start. Do I have to
 registrate to use open office in future? Is the registration so
 important? Do they get money for it? How to get rid of this pop-up
 without registering? I'm using open office since many years but that is
 too much now. Thanks in advance.


   

Assuming you got it from www.openoffice.org, you don't have to register
it.  When you get that pop-up, one option should be to say you've
already registered and it'll leave you alone.

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1.0 doesn't work without registration!!!

2009-06-29 Thread Drew Jensen

James Knott wrote:

Spiderman wrote:
  

Hi,
I don't like open office any more. Since last week open office 3.1.0 is
pop-ing up a registration request by each program start. Do I have to
registrate to use open office in future? Is the registration so
important? Do they get money for it? How to get rid of this pop-up
without registering? I'm using open office since many years but that is
too much now. Thanks in advance.


  



Assuming you got it from www.openoffice.org, you don't have to register
it.  When you get that pop-up, one option should be to say you've
already registered and it'll leave you alone.

  


I believe there was a bug round about the 3.1 release cycle -where the 
app kept asking if the user wanted to register  (it was a user 
configuration munging that happens IIRC)- as I believe it was possible 
to fix it by editing one of the configuration files...don't recall which 
off hand (ah, I am getting old) but will take a look for that 
information and post back if I can find it...unless someone else puts it 
here first.


Drew

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1.0 doesn't work without registration!!!

2009-06-29 Thread Drew Jensen

Drew Jensen wrote:

James Knott wrote:

Spiderman wrote:
 

Hi,
I don't like open office any more. Since last week open office 3.1.0 is
pop-ing up a registration request by each program start. Do I have to
registrate to use open office in future? Is the registration so
important? Do they get money for it? How to get rid of this pop-up
without registering? I'm using open office since many years but that is
too much now. Thanks in advance.


  




Well - seems my memory is suspect here...but I did find this in the 
Issues database from the 3.0 release cycle:



Sorry folks,

I found out why now.

I am using CCleaner to erase my track on the computer.

I used CCleaner to delete the C:\Documents and Settings\James Hon\Application
Data\OpenOffice.org3\user\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\Common.xcu so I
can clear the Recent Documents. It worked in OO2.4. It also worked in OO3, but
this time, it also clears my registration track, so the next time I open OO, I
am prompted to register again.


Not sure that gives you any help...let us know.

Drew

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Re: [users] OpenOffice can run when as administer, not as guest

2009-06-26 Thread Web Kracked

JOE Conner wrote:

Kenneth So wrote:

Dear Users

Recently I download  OpenOffice 3.1.0 Chinese Traditional and install it
using administer account.  I choose allows all users to use the 
OpenOffice..


The OpenOffice run properly as I log in as adminster accoun.

However, but when I log in using guest account (no rights to save 
anything
to c dirve; other applications such as wordpad, notepad and Spread32 
still

work properly).the OpenOffice cannot start (with this message: OpenOffice
cannot be started.  A unknown error is happened)

OS: Windows XP
Version of OpenOffice: OOo_3.1.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_zh-tw
.
Kenneth
  
When OpenOffice.org is first installed it queries whether or not to be 
made available to all users, or only the user  doing the install.


I suggest reinstalling OpenOffice.org and select to make it available to 
all profiles.


Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA




I personally would not allow a Guest user on any of my
computers.  Get rid of the Guest Account and create one
that can have more control.  Everyone I talk to turns off
Guest accounts for security reasons.


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Re: [users] OpenOffice can run when as administer, not as guest

2009-06-25 Thread JOE Conner

Kenneth So wrote:

Dear Users

Recently I download  OpenOffice 3.1.0 Chinese Traditional and install it
using administer account.  I choose allows all users to use the OpenOffice..

The OpenOffice run properly as I log in as adminster accoun.

However, but when I log in using guest account (no rights to save anything
to c dirve; other applications such as wordpad, notepad and Spread32 still
work properly).the OpenOffice cannot start (with this message: OpenOffice
cannot be started.  A unknown error is happened)

OS: Windows XP
Version of OpenOffice: OOo_3.1.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_zh-tw
.
Kenneth
  
When OpenOffice.org is first installed it queries whether or not to be 
made available to all users, or only the user  doing the install.


I suggest reinstalling OpenOffice.org and select to make it available to 
all profiles.


Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-08 Thread Mathias Bauer
Web Kracked wrote:

 I just ran - Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor Beta
 
 
 It stated that OpenOffice.org 3.1 was not compatible
 with Windows 7.  Of course the publisher's website
 that the software link listed Nero's website for OOo web site.
 
 
 Also some articles seems to think Windows 7 will cost at least
 25% of the total cost of a new PC.  It also appears that the same
 web sites are hosting articles saying MS is already working on
 the pre-Alpha version of Windows 8.
 
 
 Well, if anyone out there have tried the Beta or RC of Windows 7,
 I would like to know how well OOo 3.1 works with it.  OR did MS
 make some hidden coding that makes sure Non-MS office software
 does not work with Windows 7.

Whatever problems might exist between OOo 3.1 and Windows 7, OOo 3.2
(that will be released short after Windows 7) surely will be improved in
that regard.

Ciao,
Mathias

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-08 Thread Web Kracked

Mathias Bauer wrote:

Web Kracked wrote:


I just ran - Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor Beta


It stated that OpenOffice.org 3.1 was not compatible
with Windows 7.  Of course the publisher's website
that the software link listed Nero's website for OOo web site.


Also some articles seems to think Windows 7 will cost at least
25% of the total cost of a new PC.  It also appears that the same
web sites are hosting articles saying MS is already working on
the pre-Alpha version of Windows 8.


Well, if anyone out there have tried the Beta or RC of Windows 7,
I would like to know how well OOo 3.1 works with it.  OR did MS
make some hidden coding that makes sure Non-MS office software
does not work with Windows 7.


Whatever problems might exist between OOo 3.1 and Windows 7, OOo 3.2
(that will be released short after Windows 7) surely will be improved in
that regard.

Ciao,
Mathias


I thought I had ended this thread;
when there was a good reply from someone who was running Win7
and OOo3.1.  Since it worked well, maybe even better than Vista,
the advisor for Win7 upgrade was wrong.

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Re: [users] Openoffice files

2009-06-04 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:08 04/06/2009 +0530, Inbaraj Sammanasunathan wrote:
I recently got openoffice installed in my machine I cannot open 
Microsoft Office files directly by double clicking. When I double 
click, I get the Save As window. Instead, I must right click and 
use the open with option and select the appropriate Open Office 
app. Why is this?


Possibly because you installed the freeware Microsoft viewers for 
Microsoft Office document files (maybe even at my suggestion!).  The 
Save As window you are seeing is from the viewer, I think, not from 
OpenOffice, and the viewer is offering to do some conversion to the 
document for you.  When I installed the Powerpoint viewer, for 
example, (or possibly when I applied some update to it?), the .ppt 
extension became associated with Microsoft Open XML Converter instead 
of with Microsoft Office PowerPoint Viewer.


If you have these viewers, you must be using Windows, I think.  If 
so, right-click a sample file (of each relevant type) and select Open 
With  | Choose Program... .  Tick the Always use the selected 
program to open this kind of file box, and then choose the 
appropriate viewer (as I would) or the appropriate OpenOffice 
component (if you prefer).  (These details are for Windows XP; other 
versions will be similar but perhaps different.)


This proves especially annoying when trying to open email 
attachments. They must first be saved and then right clicked to be 
opened adding several more steps to what was a simple process.


If you wanted to edit the file, you certainly would want to save the 
file somewhere safe first, so you must be talking here about wanting 
just to display and perhaps print a document; this is why I suggest 
associating the extension with the viewer, not with OpenOffice.  But 
that is your choice, if course.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Openoffice files

2009-06-04 Thread James Knott
Inbaraj Sammanasunathan wrote:
 Hi

 I recently got openoffice installed in my machine I cannot open Microsoft
 Office files directly by double clicking. When I double click, I get the
 Save As window. Instead, I must right click and use the open with option
 and select the appropriate Open Office app. Why is this?

  This proves espcially annoying when trying to open email attachments. They
 must first be saved and then right clicked to be opened adding several more
 steps to what was a simple process.

   

It sounds like the file associations are not set correctly.  Try this to
seee if it helps:

Changing file associations

Right click on file icon
Select Open With  Choose Program...
Check Always use the selected program to open this kind of file and
choose the desired application.
If that method is not available, follow the directions listed here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-03 Thread Post User
JessicaD http://www.blogger.com/profile/04326864251632183111 has left a
new comment on your post Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with
Win...http://post.jangool.com/2009/06/re-users-openoffice-31-not-compatible_8128.html:


Tim Deaton,

You may also want to check out the Windows 7 forums directly supported by
Microsoft to see if there are any known issues with Open Office 3.1. Also
another great resource would be Mircosoft Springboard.

http://tinyurl.com/832nco

Jessica
Microsoft TechNet / Springboard
v-jed...@microsoft.com

2009/6/1 Drew Jensen userli...@paintedfrogceramics.com

 Tim Deaton wrote:

 Thank you, Drew, for answering the original question.  I may be using Win7
 very soon, and as I waded thru this thread, I was beginning to wonder if
 anyone had actually tested it on Win7.
 -- Tim

 Tim,

 Well remember that I have not tested it in depth - just a little here and
 there so far. To think that there are NO issues lurking would be naive, but
 none so far.

 You might consider doing what I did - I setup VirtualBox and installed
 Windows 7 as a Guest OS under both XP and Ubuntu, that way I get to 'dip my
 toes in the water before I commit to a plunge'.


 Best Wishes,


 Drew

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RE: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-02 Thread McLauchlan, Kevin
 To ALL: Why bother even getting Win 7, if Win 8 is following right
 behind? NOT only that but some one is working on a Open Source version
 of Windows which will be totally FREE! Please access the SeaMonkey
 support site and ask about that program, you may be pleasantly
 surprised! :-)

Um, why bother getting the next three versions of Ubuntu or SuSE, since
the version-after-that will be coming along just six months after
(insert number of any previous version?

Same argument.

Windows is big. It's commercial. It needs to be developed, tested, and
integrated with a lot of stuff that's:

a) out there in the world

b) coming (around the time of the new release, such as new hardware and
drivers that are in other major companies' planning stages right now and
will need instant, out-of-the-box compatibility.

So it's completely unsurprising that multiple multi-year projects would
be in various stages of conception, development, testing, release, and
ongoing maintenance.

My own employer... in fact my own small division of my employer... does
exactly that for our various products. The release of a product/project
is still in QA testing (before final release) while the next two
releases are in the pipeline, and earlier releases are in maintenance or
being readied for end-of-sales or end-of-life. 

I would be surprised to encounter a major company with a widely-used
product line that did NOT do that kind of planning and scheduling.

You were saying?

 - Kevin
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RE: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-02 Thread McLauchlan, Kevin
 
 
 Either MS wanted confusion, or they just bugged the software
 to not know what is what when determining if the software
 would work.  Hey, if MS does not certify the software, then
 it may not or will not run according to MS.  If you do not
 pay me, we will not say it works.

Windows Logo (or more lately Works-With-Windows) or the predecessor
program WHQL were all efforts to ensure that a given hardware (and its
drivers), and more recently a given software had been verified to work
with a given version of Windows.

No big deal.

It's a selling point.  It's like insurance. You probably don't really
need it (Mr. Corporate Purchaser), but a relentless marketing campaign
has ensured that you'll be given grief if something _does_ go wrong and
it turns out you didn't buy the insurance.  What?!?  Our gimmelfripps
servers are down and you _didn't_ buy certified software?? You're
fired!  :-)

Our company often pursues Windows Logo (as we did with the previous
WHQL), because some big corporate and institutional customers demanded
it. (By the way, Windows users are only a portion of our customer base.)

However, the testing and the cost (not just money, but the time of
engineers and others) ensures that we don't bother to seek the
certification for every release.  We just tell our Windows-using
customers Installing this release of Product-X will result in a warning
message 'blah-blah-blah' from Windows. That is not a fault. Just click
[Continue] to complete the installation. If your organization requires
that you install only Windows Logo certified hardware and software, then
you should remain with version yyy of Product-X until our next
Windows-Logo-Certified release.

Because we are a security-and-crypto products company (my division makes
HSMs) we have the same arrangement with respect to FIPS 140-2 validation
and with Common Criteria EAL, both of which require time and expense
(FIPS, most of a year, and CC-EAL more than a year-and-a-half) just to
work through the bureaucratic and testing hoops. So we often let two or
three minor releases of a product go past before we submit a newer
version for validation/certification.

This means that many customers are using versions that we designed 4
years ago, developed 3+ years ago, released two-and-a-half years ago,
and received validation certificate(s) a year ago.  In that case,
choosing to use only validated products means those customers are always
living in the past.   :-) 

One place where this can be a problem, in the security world, is if the
industry discovers a vulnerability in a widely used component and that
component must be updated or eliminated from products. The customers who
_don't_ demand FIPS or CC-EAL validated products are able to update
immediately and feel secure again, while those who are tied to the most
recent validated version are stuck until the next time one of our
releases emerges from the lengthy validation process.

The same occasionally happens with WHQL or Windows Logo'd stuff. You
can have the version with the vulnerability fixed, today, or you can
wait several months while we jump through hoops to have the updated
version certified.

That's life.

Hell, some people deliberately look for computers that say Intel
Inside.  Go figure. 

The answer, I think, is for open source / free software like OOo to
anticipate the problem and have the installer explain to the customer
that they are about to see a marketing-related message from Windows, and
they can safely ignore it. In their place, I'd even write up a big
explanatory web page and include a link within the installer so that
customers can read some reassurance if they feel the need.

 - Kevin

Cheers,

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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-02 Thread James R. Liebert
I don't buy this argument for a second.  Uncountable collaborations are
proceeding toward completion.  All life is a collaboration.  You are
suggesting that the Australian rudder for the Boeing 777 proceeded
independently to final design and manufacture while the American tail
assembly was designed and manufactured. 

The difference between the 777 and your next Windows OS is that
777.0.0.0 had to land. 

What did you say was the name of your employer?

James Liebert
Akron, Ohio

McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:
 To ALL: Why bother even getting Win 7, if Win 8 is following right
 behind? NOT only that but some one is working on a Open Source version
 of Windows which will be totally FREE! Please access the SeaMonkey
 support site and ask about that program, you may be pleasantly
 surprised! :-)
 

 Um, why bother getting the next three versions of Ubuntu or SuSE, since
 the version-after-that will be coming along just six months after
 (insert number of any previous version?

 Same argument.

 Windows is big. It's commercial. It needs to be developed, tested, and
 integrated with a lot of stuff that's:

 a) out there in the world

 b) coming (around the time of the new release, such as new hardware and
 drivers that are in other major companies' planning stages right now and
 will need instant, out-of-the-box compatibility.

 So it's completely unsurprising that multiple multi-year projects would
 be in various stages of conception, development, testing, release, and
 ongoing maintenance.

 My own employer... in fact my own small division of my employer... does
 exactly that for our various products. The release of a product/project
 is still in QA testing (before final release) while the next two
 releases are in the pipeline, and earlier releases are in maintenance or
 being readied for end-of-sales or end-of-life. 

 I would be surprised to encounter a major company with a widely-used
 product line that did NOT do that kind of planning and scheduling.

 You were saying?

  - Kevin
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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Detwiler

James R. Liebert wrote:

I don't buy this argument for a second.  Uncountable collaborations are
proceeding toward completion.  All life is a collaboration.  You are
suggesting that the Australian rudder for the Boeing 777 proceeded
independently to final design and manufacture while the American tail
assembly was designed and manufactured. 
  


Pardon the language, but WTF is this about??? And how does it relate to OOo?


The difference between the 777 and your next Windows OS is that
777.0.0.0 had to land. 


What did you say was the name of your employer?

James Liebert
Akron, Ohio

McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:
  

To ALL: Why bother even getting Win 7, if Win 8 is following right
behind? NOT only that but some one is working on a Open Source version
of Windows which will be totally FREE! Please access the SeaMonkey
support site and ask about that program, you may be pleasantly
surprised! :-)

  

Um, why bother getting the next three versions of Ubuntu or SuSE, since
the version-after-that will be coming along just six months after
(insert number of any previous version?

Same argument.

Windows is big. It's commercial. It needs to be developed, tested, and
integrated with a lot of stuff that's:

a) out there in the world

b) coming (around the time of the new release, such as new hardware and
drivers that are in other major companies' planning stages right now and
will need instant, out-of-the-box compatibility.

So it's completely unsurprising that multiple multi-year projects would
be in various stages of conception, development, testing, release, and
ongoing maintenance.

My own employer... in fact my own small division of my employer... does
exactly that for our various products. The release of a product/project
is still in QA testing (before final release) while the next two
releases are in the pipeline, and earlier releases are in maintenance or
being readied for end-of-sales or end-of-life. 


I would be surprised to encounter a major company with a widely-used
product line that did NOT do that kind of planning and scheduling.

You were saying?

 - Kevin
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Re: [users] OpenOffice 3.1 not compatible with Windows 7?

2009-06-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 15:36 -0400, Richard Detwiler wrote:
 James R. Liebert wrote:
  I don't buy this argument for a second.  Uncountable collaborations are
  proceeding toward completion.  All life is a collaboration.  You are
  suggesting that the Australian rudder for the Boeing 777 proceeded
  independently to final design and manufacture while the American tail
  assembly was designed and manufactured. 
 Pardon the language, but WTF is this about??? And how does it relate to OOo?

It doesn't, and hasn't, and shouldn't be expected too.  This thread is
just playing its small part in maintaining the very low signal to noise
ratio of this list.  Many people here would be happier over in the
linux-advocacy news group.



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