translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Are SpamAssassin descriptions available in other languages?


For example, the following would produce SpamAssassin output below - are 
localized versions of it available anywhere?

$ cat /tmp/new.eml | spamassassin -Lt
(...)

Content analysis details:   (-1.9 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- --
-1.9 RP_MATCHES_RCVDEnvelope sender domain matches handover relay domain
 0.0 T_FRT_CLICKBODY: ReplaceTags: Click
 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid



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Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Marcin Mirosław

W dniu 12.09.2011 13:18, Tomasz Chmielewski pisze:

Are SpamAssassin descriptions available in other languages?


For example, the following would produce SpamAssassin output below - are 
localized versions of it available anywhere?

$ cat /tmp/new.eml | spamassassin -Lt

[...]

Hello,
short answer: yes.

spamc -R q1R2977-3240678
[...]X-Szczegoly:(poczta.cibet.pl)(16.3 points)
 pts rule name  description
 -- -
 2.6 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Odebrane od systemu klasy RELAY w/g:
bl.spamcop.net
  [Blocked - see 
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?82.91.13.8]

 0.4 RCVD_IN_XBLRBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
[82.91.13.8 listed in zen.spamhaus.org]
 0.8 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB  RBL: SORBS: nadawca posiada nadu�ywany 
serwer WWW

[...]

Did you set locale to pl?
Regards


Re: SA on outgoing SMTP servers

2011-09-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

Am 09.09.2011 17:20, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:

due to many spam problems (outbreaks) in history, we check for
spamminess on outgoing mail servers.

However there are rules that should not apply on them.
- Dynamic/blacklist (except URIBL) checks
I can avoid these by defining local server to msa_networks

- ALL_TRUSTED
I'm sure I have to turn this off, does it also apply to dependencies?
What about !ALL_TRUSTED dependencies?

- SPF checks
While we should reject/quarantine e-mail that does not match SPF, it
should not apply to domains we are designed to send mail for .
(SPF records include us)


... any other ideas?


On 09.09.11 20:17, Robert Schetterer wrote:

try using clamav-milter with sanesecurity antispam signatures
this should avoid a lot of outgoing spam


Maybe, but this is not what I have asked for, and it won't help me a 
bit resolving my problem, sorry.

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Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 12.09.2011 13:25, Marcin Mirosław wrote:
 W dniu 12.09.2011 13:18, Tomasz Chmielewski pisze:
 Are SpamAssassin descriptions available in other languages?


 For example, the following would produce SpamAssassin output below - 
 are localized versions of it available anywhere?

 $ cat /tmp/new.eml | spamassassin -Lt
 [...]
 
 Hello,
 short answer: yes.

What's the long answer?


 Did you set locale to pl?

Set to pl_PL.UTF-8:

Szczeg��y analizy zawarto�ci: (-1.9 zaliczonych, 5.0 wymaganych)

pkt  nazwa regu�y   kr�tki opis
 -- ---
-1.9 RP_MATCHES_RCVDEnvelope sender domain matches handover relay domain
 0.0 T_FRT_CLICKBODY: ReplaceTags: Click
 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid


Set to pt_PT.UTF-8:

 pts regra  descri��o
 -- --
-1.9 RP_MATCHES_RCVDEnvelope sender domain matches handover relay domain
 0.0 T_FRT_CLICKBODY: ReplaceTags: Click
 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid


So, rule descriptions are not translated. Do I have to set anything else?


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Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Marcin Mirosław

W dniu 12.09.2011 13:59, Tomasz Chmielewski pisze:

On 12.09.2011 13:25, Marcin Mirosław wrote:

Hello,
short answer: yes.


What's the long answer?


I wanted to say as a user i know there are available translations, but 
i don't know informations about how many translations are available or 
if are them up to date.


[...]

So, rule descriptions are not translated. Do I have to set anything else?


I've found polish translations in file /var/lib/[..]/30_text_pl.cf , you 
should have it. I've tested on my box what to do to have description not 
translated;) Enviroment variable LANGUAGE is responsible for version 
of description used in report:


$ LANGUAGE=de ;spamassassin -xtL  q1R35OW-38036633
 3.8 BAYES_99   BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach 
Bayes-Test: 99-100%


$ LANGUAGE=nl ;spamassassin -xtL  q1R35OW-38036633
 3.8 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesiaanse kans op spam is 99 tot 100%
[score: 1.]
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML opgenomen in het bericht
 0.0 HTML_FONT_SIZE_LARGE   BODY: HTML font size is large
 1.8 MIME_HEADER_CTYPE_ONLY 'Content-Type' gevonden zonder de benodigde
MIME headers
 0.2 KHOP_SC_TOP_CIDR8  Relay CIDR /8 leads SpamCop in worst /8s
 2.6 SINGLE_HEADER_1K   A single header contains 1K-2K characters

Regrads



Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 12.09.2011 14:42, Marcin Mirosław wrote:
 
 I've found polish translations in file /var/lib/[..]/30_text_pl.cf , you 
 should have it. I've tested on my box what to do to have description not 
 translated;) Enviroment variable LANGUAGE is responsible for version 
 of description used in report:
 
 $ LANGUAGE=de ;spamassassin -xtL  q1R35OW-38036633
 3.8 BAYES_99 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 99-100%

OK, I see only few descriptions are really translated, and the language I'm 
interested in mostly (Portuguese) barely has any translations:

# wc -l  /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text*
  401 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
  287 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
   35 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_it.cf
  278 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
  268 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
   69 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_pt_br.cf

And if the description is not available in a given language, it will be 
displayed in English.


I.e. for Polish, it would translate just HTML_MESSAGE:

Szczeg��y analizy zawarto�ci: (3.3 zaliczonych, 5.0 wymaganych)

$ LANGUAGE=pl ; spamassassin -xtL  /tmp/new.eml
(...)
pkt  nazwa regu�y   kr�tki opis
 -- ---
 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM  Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail 
provider
(e.thomps[at]aol.com)
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: Wiadomo�� zawiera kod HTML
 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid
 3.3 FREEMAIL_REPLYTO   Reply-To/From or Reply-To/body contain different
freemails
 0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL To: misformatted and free email service



For pt_br, it wouldn't translate anything:

$ LANGUAGE=pt_br ; spamassassin -xtL  /tmp/new.eml
(...)
 pts regra  descri��o
 -- --
 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM  Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail 
provider
(e.thomps[at]aol.com)
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid
 3.3 FREEMAIL_REPLYTO   Reply-To/From or Reply-To/body contain different
freemails
 0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL To: misformatted and free email service



Does anyone have any more translations? :)


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Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Axb

On 2011-09-12 14:58, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:

On 12.09.2011 14:42, Marcin Mirosław wrote:


I've found polish translations in file /var/lib/[..]/30_text_pl.cf
, you should have it. I've tested on my box what to do to have
description not translated;) Enviroment variable LANGUAGE is
responsible for version of description used in report:

$ LANGUAGE=de ;spamassassin -xtL  q1R35OW-38036633 3.8 BAYES_99
BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 99-100%


OK, I see only few descriptions are really translated, and the
language I'm interested in mostly (Portuguese) barely has any
translations:


language mantainers are welcome.





Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
On 12.09.2011 15:01, Axb wrote:
 On 2011-09-12 14:58, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
 On 12.09.2011 14:42, Marcin Mirosław wrote:

 I've found polish translations in file /var/lib/[..]/30_text_pl.cf
 , you should have it. I've tested on my box what to do to have
 description not translated;) Enviroment variable LANGUAGE is
 responsible for version of description used in report:

 $ LANGUAGE=de ;spamassassin -xtL q1R35OW-38036633 3.8 BAYES_99
 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 99-100%

 OK, I see only few descriptions are really translated, and the
 language I'm interested in mostly (Portuguese) barely has any
 translations:
 
 language mantainers are welcome.

Is there a way to get ALL rule names used by a given spamassassin installation, 
together with their descriptions?

Say, this non-existing switch to spamassassin would print all possible rules:

$ LANGUAGE=de ; spamassassin --show-rules
(...)
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: Nachricht enth�lt HTML
 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid


This way, it would be easy to see what's translated for a given language (and, 
add the translations / contribute them back).

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Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread John Wilcock

Le 12/09/2011 15:20, Tomasz Chmielewski a écrit :

Is there a way to get ALL rule names used by a given spamassassin
installation, together with their descriptions?


grep -R describe /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003002/

would probably be a good place to start

John.

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Re: critsend (/gridsend?)... what's the(ir) trick?

2011-09-12 Thread Michael Scheidell

On 9/12/11 1:14 AM, Yanek wrote:

Well, I don't use spamc. SA is called by amavisd-new, but I don't think
that makes any difference, does it?
The message posted here (http://pastebin.com/dpnYY16K) is 30k big.

since this is amavisd-new, I would suggest starting over again in the 
amavisd-new users group.

(please don't crosspost, people replying might get bounces)

looking at these headers, I only see this

Received: from localhost (vscan1 [10.10.10.15])
by smtp.abetternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742831A8351
forya...@abetternet.net; Thu,  8 Sep 2011 01:34:23 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: antivirus scanner at abetternet.net


this seems to bean that 10.10.10.15 is running amavisd-new, right?
and that in your amavisd.conf file you have something like this:

$X_HEADER_LINE = $myproduct_name $myversion_id at $myhostname;

or, you have '$myproduct_name = 'antivirus scanner';
myhostname='abetternet.net'?

but I don't see any other amavisd-new headers.

also, you make MOST of your SA settings in the amavisd.conf file, NOT 
../local.cf


set $sa_tag_level_deflt  = -999;  (default is 2.0), set it in 
amavisd.conf and then restart amavisd-new.


if that didn't help by adding more status lines, then ask in amavisd-new 
group.


again, this is most likely an amavisd.conf issue, so start your question 
in the amavisd-new users group.  don't assume they read spamassassin group.

some do, some don't.


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Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Axb

On 2011-09-12 15:36, John Wilcock wrote:

Le 12/09/2011 15:20, Tomasz Chmielewski a écrit :

Is there a way to get ALL rule names used by a given spamassassin
installation, together with their descriptions?


grep -R describe /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003002/

would probably be a good place to start

John.



take in account that rules which are autopromoted from sandboxes and 
which may only be active for a short period, may never see a translation.
Rules which are deprecated will probably keep an orphaned descritpion 
from the lang files.


best will probably be to skip translations for rules in 72_scores.cf.
Those are the ones which come and go...



Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:

Is there a way to get ALL rule names used by a given spamassassin 
installation, together with their descriptions?


Say, this non-existing switch to spamassassin would print all possible rules:

$ LANGUAGE=de ; spamassassin --show-rules
(...)
0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: Nachricht enth???lt HTML
0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid


This way, it would be easy to see what's translated for a given language (and, 
add the translations / contribute them back).


Not presently, no, but that strikes me as a useful tool and fairly easy to 
implement. It's also be a good way to check what rules are locally 
disabled.


You might want to submit a feature request so that it can be 
tracked formally.


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Re: How to get rid of spam with From spoofed to my own domain

2011-09-12 Thread Jack L. Stone
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:02:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to get rid of spam with From spoofed to my own domain

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, René Berber wrote:

 On 9/11/2011 3:47 PM, rutra80 wrote:
 
  Hello, lately I receive spam which looks like coming from my domain,
  sometimes it is spoofed like coming from accounts that don't exist, and
  sometimes from the ones that really do. The only SA rule that it
triggers is
  Bayesian one, with nearly 100% probability - it assigns 3.5 points, but my
  rejection limit is set to 4.5 and I'm not eager to lower it. What would be
  the most elegant and technically correct way to get rid of the problem?
 
 1. Require authentication.
 
 2. SPF.

 3. If your domain's mail will only ever originate from your MTA, then set
up your MTA to reject any  mail having a From address in your domain
unless it comes from your trusted network(s).
 John Hardin
-- 

My MTA is Sendmail and I use Milter-Regex which can compare against the
server's proper IP address and reject any that You are not me. Not sure
if this fits your issue, but sounds like it. If not using Sendmail, then
something like milter-regex perhaps.

Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
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System Admin
Sage-american


Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Jose Borges Ferreira
Hi!
If you are intrested in Portuguese translations check this (
http://old.nabble.com/Questions-about-translating-rules-descriptions-td30642308.html).
I'm not sure if the bug was actually open, but ,at least, you can have
the translated file.

José Borges Ferreira

PS: It's pt_BR and not pt_PT.

2011/9/12 Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org

 On 12.09.2011 14:42, Marcin Mirosław wrote:

  I've found polish translations in file /var/lib/[..]/30_text_pl.cf , you
  should have it. I've tested on my box what to do to have description not
  translated;) Enviroment variable LANGUAGE is responsible for version
  of description used in report:
 
  $ LANGUAGE=de ;spamassassin -xtL  q1R35OW-38036633
  3.8 BAYES_99 BODY: Spamwahrscheinlichkeit nach Bayes-Test: 99-100%

 OK, I see only few descriptions are really translated, and the language I'm
 interested in mostly (Portuguese) barely has any translations:

 # wc -l  /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text*
  401 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_de.cf
  287 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_fr.cf
   35 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_it.cf
  278 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_nl.cf
  268 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_pl.cf
   69 /usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_pt_br.cf

 And if the description is not available in a given language, it will be
 displayed in English.


 I.e. for Polish, it would translate just HTML_MESSAGE:

 Szczeg��y analizy zawarto�ci: (3.3 zaliczonych, 5.0 wymaganych)

 $ LANGUAGE=pl ; spamassassin -xtL  /tmp/new.eml
 (...)
 pkt  nazwa regu�y   kr�tki opis
  -- ---
  0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM  Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail
 provider
(e.thomps[at]aol.com)
  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: Wiadomo�� zawiera kod HTML
  0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid
  3.3 FREEMAIL_REPLYTO   Reply-To/From or Reply-To/body contain
 different
freemails
  0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL To: misformatted and free email service



 For pt_br, it wouldn't translate anything:

 $ LANGUAGE=pt_br ; spamassassin -xtL  /tmp/new.eml
 (...)
  pts regra  descri��o
  --
 --
  0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM  Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail
 provider
(e.thomps[at]aol.com)
  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
  0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid
  3.3 FREEMAIL_REPLYTO   Reply-To/From or Reply-To/body contain
 different
freemails
  0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL To: misformatted and free email service



 Does anyone have any more translations? :)


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 http://wpkg.org



Some SpamAssassin Score Translations Please ?

2011-09-12 Thread Thomas Grossmann
Came across these in one of my SpamAssassin reports...  Can someone please
help me with what they mean exactly so that I can try to pinpoint what is
triggering this.

Thanks!

 5.0 CT_MAILBOX_QUOTA Fake Mailbox Quota Phish

 8.0 CT_QUOTA_PHISH Quota Phishing

Kind Regards,

Tom


Re: Some SpamAssassin Score Translations Please ?

2011-09-12 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 9/12/2011 12:36 PM, Thomas Grossmann wrote:
 Came across these in one of my SpamAssassin reports...  Can someone
 please help me with what they mean exactly so that I can try to
 pinpoint what is triggering this.

 Thanks!

 5.0 CT_MAILBOX_QUOTA Fake Mailbox Quota Phish

 8.0 CT_QUOTA_PHISH Quota Phishing



Those do not appear to be standard rules.  Search your local rules
directory for the rule name.  If you find it, post the rule definition
and we can tell you what it does.

-- 
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Re: translations of SpamAssassin descriptions?

2011-09-12 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski

On 12.09.2011 18:26, Jose Borges Ferreira wrote:

Hi!
If you are intrested in Portuguese translations check this (
http://old.nabble.com/Questions-about-translating-rules-descriptions-td30642308.html
). I'm not sure if the bug was actually open, but ,at least, you can
have the translated file.


Thanks much!


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http://wpkg.org




Re: How to get rid of spam with From spoofed to my own domain

2011-09-12 Thread Paul Russell

On 9/11/2011 20:02, John Hardin wrote:

On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, René Berber wrote:


On 9/11/2011 3:47 PM, rutra80 wrote:


Hello, lately I receive spam which looks like coming from my domain,
sometimes it is spoofed like coming from accounts that don't exist, and
sometimes from the ones that really do. The only SA rule that it triggers is
Bayesian one, with nearly 100% probability - it assigns 3.5 points, but my
rejection limit is set to 4.5 and I'm not eager to lower it. What would be
the most elegant and technically correct way to get rid of the problem?

1. Require authentication.

2. SPF.


3. If your domain's mail will only ever originate from your MTA, then set 
up your MTA to reject any mail having a From address in your domain unless 
it comes from your trusted network(s).




4. If #3 is not feasible, validate apparently-local sender addresses and reject messages 
with invalid sender addresses. This will reduce the number of messages that require more 
costly processing.


--
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OIT Messaging Services Team
University of Notre Dame



Re: Some SpamAssassin Score Translations Please ?

2011-09-12 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Thomas Grossmann wrote:


Came across these in one of my SpamAssassin reports...  Can someone please
help me with what they mean exactly so that I can try to pinpoint what is
triggering this.


Please do not reply to an existing thread and then completely change the 
topic like that. It breaks threading and may keep people from reading your 
question if they've decided the existing thread isn't interesting.


Start a new thread with a subject that accurately describes the topic.

Thanks.

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Re: Some SpamAssassin Score Translations Please ?

2011-09-12 Thread John Hardin

yOn Mon, 12 Sep 2011, John Hardin wrote:


On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Thomas Grossmann wrote:


 Came across these in one of my SpamAssassin reports...  Can someone please
 help me with what they mean exactly so that I can try to pinpoint what is
 triggering this.


Please do not reply to an existing thread and then completely change the 
topic like that. It breaks threading and may keep people from reading your 
question if they've decided the existing thread isn't interesting.


...dammit. Never mind, that subject was too close to the subject from the 
preceding message, rant withdrawn. Sorry.


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commercial ESP for forwarded SMTP?

2011-09-12 Thread Quinn Comendant
We'll be deploying a mail server on a Rackspace cloud server, and they 
suggested that because their offering is 'utility computing' the IP addresses 
included are dirty (in a blacklist kind of way) and we should use a commercial 
ESP such as SendGrid, PostMark, CritSend, CloudSMTP, or the like.

Has anybody done research in this field? Any favorites?

We'll just be forwarding our outgoing SMTP traffic to their service for its 
quality of deliverability. I doubt we'll use any of reporting features, or even 
SPF/DKIM.

Quinn

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Re: commercial ESP for forwarded SMTP?

2011-09-12 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld

Hi, Quinn,

On 9/13/11 2:39 AM, Quinn Comendant wrote:

We'll be deploying a mail server on a Rackspace cloud server, and they 
suggested that because their offering is 'utility computing' the IP addresses 
included are dirty (in a blacklist kind of way) and we should use a commercial 
ESP such as SendGrid, PostMark, CritSend, CloudSMTP, or the like.

Has anybody done research in this field? Any favorites?

We'll just be forwarding our outgoing SMTP traffic to their service for its 
quality of deliverability. I doubt we'll use any of reporting features, or even 
SPF/DKIM.


my company is offering such a service, contact me off-list if you're 
interested.


Regards,
/rolf