Re: [vdr] Problem with two cards

2007-02-01 Thread Andre . Weidemann

Teemu Suikki wrote:


Perhaps there is some problem having tda10045 and tda10046 in same system?
After all, both are handled by the same tda1004x module..


The dmesg output does not look suspicious at all. It seems as if both 
cards have been registered successfully.
The only thing you can do, (that I can think of right now) was to write 
to the linux-dvb list and ask the developers there if they have ever 
tested this particular setup and if it could cause problems.


 André



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Re: [vdr] FF card AV sync problems, possible fix to VDR (fwd)

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa

Ville Rannikko kirjoitti:

  Hi!
  The newest firmware for FF cards did not completely fix the AV 
desync  problems

  for me.
Can you provide a sample recording where A/V sync fails with the current
firmware?


Oh, well. Turns out that I had somehow failed to install the new 
firmware properly. My test patch is possibly not needed at all.


I still have experienced AV sync problem with the new fw. The problem is 
that I can not reproduce the problem. Replaying the video again does not 
usually give the same result. The sync problem I've experienced with 
this new fw is just a slight out of sync, less than half a second, but 
it is noticeable. I can not really say yet how the problem occurs, what 
are the circumstances. I must check if pausing or jumping causes it or 
is it something changes in the video. Its nowadays so rare :) I was so 
used to have it :)


\\Kartsa

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Re: [vdr] Re: replay stuttering

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa

Kartsa kirjoitti:

I have been running vdr now for a couple days with

#define PLAYERBUFSIZE  MEGABYTE(64) in dvbplayer.c

and for now it seems like better as in no stuttering. But I am still 
testing it.


Okey, I've had this setting in action for a week or so now and it is 
definitely better. There is still sometimes some stuttering but it is so 
suttle that it is barely noticeable. With MEGABYTE(1) the video 
occasionally stopped for a second and then stuttered for about 5 seconds 
and then resumed normal operation (with lesser cpu it could be 
stuttering to the end of the recording).


Could the chosen file system be causing this? I use LVM creating one 
partition on two disks and then I create one xfs on that partition. The 
disks are sata as mentioned earlier.


\\Kartsa

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Re: [vdr] Re: replay stuttering

2007-02-01 Thread Carsten Koch
Kartsa wrote:
 Kartsa kirjoitti:
 I have been running vdr now for a couple days with

 #define PLAYERBUFSIZE  MEGABYTE(64) in dvbplayer.c

 and for now it seems like better as in no stuttering. But I am still
 testing it.

 Okey, I've had this setting in action for a week or so now and it is
 definitely better. There is still sometimes some stuttering but it is so
 suttle that it is barely noticeable. With MEGABYTE(1) the video
 occasionally stopped for a second and then stuttered for about 5 seconds
 and then resumed normal operation (with lesser cpu it could be
 stuttering to the end of the recording).

As mentioned earlier in this thread, I had also sometimes noticed a similar 
effect
video halts for a few seconds, then resumes and stutters for a few seconds.
After recommending it to you, I have also increased PLAYERBUFSIZE to 64MB
and I have not noticed the problem ever since.

So there is a high probability that increasing PLAYERBUFSIZE improves matters.

Maybe it should not be fixed, though, since a machine with very little RAM
may suffer from thrashing if the VDR footprint is increased that much.

I wonder if it should be configurable or if there would be an automatic
way of determining the right size (i.e. start with 1 MB, then double
it on every stutter and remember the value in the setup.conf file).



 Could the chosen file system be causing this? I use LVM creating one
 partition on two disks and then I create one xfs on that partition. The
 disks are sata as mentioned earlier.

I do not think so.
Maybe S.M.A.R.T., maybe hardware, but not the file system.
I am using XFS on individual (mostly PATA) disks over NFS.

Carsten.

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[vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa
I've noticed that earlier when I was using PIII 550 MHz and vdr 1.3.22 
(or something about) I made a test by recording nine channels 
simultaneously and watching a recording at the same time. I remember 
there seemed to be no trouble doing it. Now when I have vdr 1.4.4 after 
fourth recording starts vdr becomes sluggish and there starts to come 
errors on log:

dvb-ttpci: warning: timeout waiting in LoadBitmap
when pushing menu button. And ofcourse no menu appears or menu appears 
only partly.


Is this vdr related or firmware related. After all the error is fw error 
isn't it?


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Re: [vdr] Problem with two cards

2007-02-01 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Teemu Suikki may or may not have written...

 Hi,

 I have been using VDR for about two years now, without any big problems. :)

 Now I built a new system with two cards. One is my old hauppaude nova-t,
 other is technotrend nova-t with CI..
[snip]

What has this to do with the shutdown rewrite?

(Hint: new thread, not followup or reply.)

-- 
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| RISC OS, Linux | youmustbejoking,demon,co,uk | Northumberland | Army
| + Buy less and make it last longer. INDUSTRY CAUSES GLOBAL WARMING.

It is easier to suggest solutions when you know nothing about the problem.

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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Heikki Manninen
On to, 2007-02-01 at 19:29 +0200, Kartsa wrote:
 I've noticed that earlier when I was using PIII 550 MHz and vdr 1.3.22 
 (or something about) I made a test by recording nine channels 
 simultaneously and watching a recording at the same time. I remember 
 there seemed to be no trouble doing it. Now when I have vdr 1.4.4 after 
 fourth recording starts vdr becomes sluggish and there starts to come 
 errors on log:
 dvb-ttpci: warning: timeout waiting in LoadBitmap
 when pushing menu button. And ofcourse no menu appears or menu appears 
 only partly.

Exactly the same thing here and with the latest and the second latest
firmware. My FF 2.1 TT card starts to die after third simultaneous
recording. But then again, I think that budget cards are much better in
this area.


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Re: [vdr] Blocking the playback of recordings in plugins

2007-02-01 Thread Reinhard Nissl
Hi,

Marko Mäkelä wrote:

 I believe that the easy fix would be to have these methods return 0 only
 when playing a recording.  Can the plugin detect this somehow?

For live TV, VDR runs a transfer thread and the replaying device may use
cDevice::Transferring() to detect this (works at least for vdr-xine in
cXineDevice::SetPlayMode() for PlayMode being != pmNone).

Bye.
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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Reinhard Nissl
Hi,

Heikki Manninen wrote:

 I've noticed that earlier when I was using PIII 550 MHz and vdr 1.3.22 
 (or something about) I made a test by recording nine channels 
 simultaneously and watching a recording at the same time. I remember 
 there seemed to be no trouble doing it. Now when I have vdr 1.4.4 after 
 fourth recording starts vdr becomes sluggish and there starts to come 
 errors on log:
 dvb-ttpci: warning: timeout waiting in LoadBitmap
 when pushing menu button. And ofcourse no menu appears or menu appears 
 only partly.
 
 Exactly the same thing here and with the latest and the second latest
 firmware. My FF 2.1 TT card starts to die after third simultaneous
 recording. But then again, I think that budget cards are much better in
 this area.

Most likely, it's me who has to be blamed. Around 1.3.27, cVideoRepacker
was introduced which has an impact on CPU load. This could be a reason
why the menu is slow when running several recordings at the same time.

Bye.
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Re: [vdr] Re: replay stuttering

2007-02-01 Thread Boguslaw Juza


I have noticed smilar trouble:

When VDR playbacks a recording, and I pause playback and put play 
again, video starts playing, then stops for less than second after about 5 
seconds, then plays, after two seconds stops again for one second, and 
then plays smoothly.


I have noticed replay stuttering trouble sometimes, but increasing
PLAYERBUFSIZE to MEGABYTE(8) resolved the trouble.

Boguslaw Juza


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Re: [vdr] Blocking the playback of recordings in plugins

2007-02-01 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 07:57:20PM +0100, Reinhard Nissl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Marko Mäkelä wrote:
 
  I believe that the easy fix would be to have these methods return 0 only
  when playing a recording.  Can the plugin detect this somehow?
 
 For live TV, VDR runs a transfer thread and the replaying device may use
 cDevice::Transferring() to detect this (works at least for vdr-xine in
 cXineDevice::SetPlayMode() for PlayMode being != pmNone).

Thanks, I knew there had to be some way.  Softdevice used to blank
the screen after a few seconds of missing video stream (tuned to an
audio channel).  A fix was introduced so that it wouldn't blank the
screen when a recording was paused.

Marko

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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:49:55PM +0200, Kartsa wrote:
 Most likely, it's me who has to be blamed. Around 1.3.27, cVideoRepacker
 was introduced which has an impact on CPU load. This could be a reason
 why the menu is slow when running several recordings at the same time.
 
 Bye.
   
 I do not think that it is the reason. I checked that the cpu load was 
 less than 10% on my 3000+ AMD and even with my 550MHz PIII less than 20% 
 when there were 5 simultaneuous recordings.

You should really learn to use OProfile.  With it, you can see which
functions (or even which source code lines or machine instructions)
are to blame.

Mrako

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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa

Reinhard Nissl kirjoitti:

Hi,

Heikki Manninen wrote:

  
I've noticed that earlier when I was using PIII 550 MHz and vdr 1.3.22 
(or something about) I made a test by recording nine channels 
simultaneously and watching a recording at the same time. I remember 
there seemed to be no trouble doing it. Now when I have vdr 1.4.4 after 
fourth recording starts vdr becomes sluggish and there starts to come 
errors on log:

dvb-ttpci: warning: timeout waiting in LoadBitmap
when pushing menu button. And ofcourse no menu appears or menu appears 
only partly.
  

Exactly the same thing here and with the latest and the second latest
firmware. My FF 2.1 TT card starts to die after third simultaneous
recording. But then again, I think that budget cards are much better in
this area.



Most likely, it's me who has to be blamed. Around 1.3.27, cVideoRepacker
was introduced which has an impact on CPU load. This could be a reason
why the menu is slow when running several recordings at the same time.

Bye.
  
I do not think that it is the reason. I checked that the cpu load was 
less than 10% on my 3000+ AMD and even with my 550MHz PIII less than 20% 
when there were 5 simultaneuous recordings.



\\Kartsa

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Re: [vdr] [RFC] Shutdown rewrite for 1.5.x

2007-02-01 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:27:14PM +0200, Marko Mäkelä wrote:
  Maybe not switching off display while doing playback? It doesn't make 
  much sense anyway to run playback invisible.
 
 It does.  The typical use case is that you pause live video or start
 a recording with a timer, then start watching it while it is still
 recording, so that you can skip commercial breaks.  Then you get
 interrupted while watching it.  It would be very handy to push the
 power button.
 
 If it was a short interruption, you'd push any button to resume playback.
 If the interruption was longer (such as your kid wakes up and you'll have
 to put him back to sleep for a few hours), vdr would do the right thing
 and shut down after finishing the recording.

According to Reinhard Nissl's reply in another thread, this can be fixed
in the cDevice plugin by not blocking input in cDevice::PlayVideo()
or cDevice::PlayAudio() when cDevice::Transferring() holds.  I'll update
my shutdown patch for softdevice soon.  No need to change anything in
your patch.

Marko

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Re: [vdr] [RFC] Shutdown rewrite for 1.5.x

2007-02-01 Thread Tony Houghton
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], you wrote:

 I wouldn't be so sure about the majority of VDRs using FF cards.  I
 haven't seen any ad for an FF card, but I have seen many ads for cheap
 USB DVB-T tuners.  The trend is likely to change, given that decoding
 MPEG-2 is no challenge to current PC hardware.

Also generic video cards are increasingly coming with video decoding
features, and HDTVs can be connected straight to a PC without the need
for a horrible scaler or special screen mode. Although not all the
decoding features are available to Linux, dedicated decoder/TV-out cards
are looking quite obsolete, and DVB card manufacturers are bound to
respond to that.

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Re: [vdr] FF card AV sync problems, possible fix to VDR (fwd)

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa

Ville Rannikko kirjoitti:

  Hi!
  The newest firmware for FF cards did not completely fix the AV 
desync  problems

  for me.
Can you provide a sample recording where A/V sync fails with the current
firmware?


I was just watching an Idols Extra recorded today and there were 
multiple out of sync situations that were allways fixed by a 10s 
backwards jump. I could not see anything in the picture (like periods of 
black etc.) that would cause this. To make the best of this I should 
make the whole recording available somewhere because I would not know 
what to take out of it. And that is not very convenient because of the 
size of the file.


This is what was in the log if this is at all relevant.

Feb  1 21:20:48 vdr: [2635] replay 
/srv/vdr/Idols_Extra/2007-02-01.20.59.50.99.rec

Feb  1 21:20:59 vdr: [3955] 3 cRepacker messages suppressed
Feb  1 21:20:59 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 134 bytes to 
sync on next audio frame

Feb  1 21:22:09 vdr: [3955] 2 cRepacker messages suppressed
Feb  1 21:22:09 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 68 bytes while 
syncing on next audio frame

Feb  1 21:25:37 vdr: [3955] 1 cRepacker messages suppressed
Feb  1 21:25:37 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 84 bytes to 
sync on next audio frame
Feb  1 21:26:14 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 68 bytes to 
sync on next audio frame
Feb  1 21:26:45 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 476 bytes 
while syncing on next audio frame

Feb  1 21:32:45 vdr: [3955] 1 cRepacker messages suppressed
Feb  1 21:32:45 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 502 bytes 
while syncing on next audio frame

Feb  1 21:34:52 vdr: [3955] 1 cRepacker messages suppressed
Feb  1 21:34:52 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 232 bytes 
while syncing on next audio frame

Feb  1 21:36:55 vdr: [3955] 3 cRepacker messages suppressed
Feb  1 21:36:55 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 54 bytes to 
sync on next audio frame

Feb  1 21:38:06 vdr: [3955] 2 cRepacker messages suppressed
Feb  1 21:38:06 vdr: [3955] cAudioRepacker(0xC0): skipped 468 bytes 
while syncing on next audio frame

Feb  1 21:40:00 vdr: [2635] timer 22 (5 2059-2140 'Idols Extra') stop

As you can see the recording was on the way as I was watching it.

I've removed two channel events and one ntp event from the log output.

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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa

Marko Mäkelä kirjoitti:

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:49:55PM +0200, Kartsa wrote:
  

Most likely, it's me who has to be blamed. Around 1.3.27, cVideoRepacker
was introduced which has an impact on CPU load. This could be a reason
why the menu is slow when running several recordings at the same time.

Bye.
 
  
I do not think that it is the reason. I checked that the cpu load was 
less than 10% on my 3000+ AMD and even with my 550MHz PIII less than 20% 
when there were 5 simultaneuous recordings.



You should really learn to use OProfile.  With it, you can see which
functions (or even which source code lines or machine instructions)
are to blame
Would it really matter in this case when cpu load was that small? I was 
just trying to say that even though there were almost no cpu load vdr 
was working sluggish.


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Re: [vdr] [RFC] Shutdown rewrite for 1.5.x

2007-02-01 Thread Patrick Mackin

I wouldn't be so sure about the majority of VDRs using FF cards.  I
haven't seen any ad for an FF card, but I have seen many ads for cheap
USB DVB-T tuners.  The trend is likely to change, given that decoding
MPEG-2 is no challenge to current PC hardware.


Also generic video cards are increasingly coming with video decoding
features, and HDTVs can be connected straight to a PC without the need
for a horrible scaler or special screen mode. Although not all the
decoding features are available to Linux, dedicated decoder/TV-out cards
are looking quite obsolete, and DVB card manufacturers are bound to
respond to that.

Not to get too off-topic, but I disagree. In north america, from surveying 
posts on several bulletin boards, vdr usage seems to be 90%+ with FF cards 
(typically the Nexus-S).  There's actually the perception with many in NA 
that vdr doesn't work with budget cards!  And while more PCs are adding the 
built-in functions a FF card provides (Digital audio out, Coax or S-video 
out, adequate processing power for decoding) everything seems to be moving 
to mpeg-4.  I know from working regularly with Xvid / mpeg4 files that they 
require a lot more processing power, and many pcs are older machines 
dedicated to running vdr, not top of the line full fledged 4 ghz systems. 
I've never regretted owning my FF card, and would look for a FF mpeg4 card 
if I was in the market.  Plus, they always seem the simplest to configure 
and use with most software, not to mention not requiring a computer monitor 
to run vdr on FF :) 



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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:18:03PM +0200, Kartsa wrote:
 Marko Mäkelä kirjoitti:
 I do not think that it is the reason. I checked that the cpu load was 
 less than 10% on my 3000+ AMD and even with my 550MHz PIII less than 20% 
 when there were 5 simultaneuous recordings.
 
 
 You should really learn to use OProfile.  With it, you can see which
 functions (or even which source code lines or machine instructions)
 are to blame
 Would it really matter in this case when cpu load was that small? I was 
 just trying to say that even though there were almost no cpu load vdr 
 was working sluggish.

Without trying it, it is hard to say.  You may be right, the load is so
small that the sluggishness can result from some mutex waits or
something else that wouldn't stand out in a profiler that measures CPU
resources.

In any case, you could profile the old and new version of vdr and see if
there is any obvious difference.

Marko

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Re: [vdr] Vdr or driver performance dropout

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa

Marko Mäkelä kirjoitti:

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:18:03PM +0200, Kartsa wrote:
  
Would it really matter in this case when cpu load was that small? I was 
just trying to say that even though there were almost no cpu load vdr 
was working sluggish.



Without trying it, it is hard to say.  You may be right, the load is so
small that the sluggishness can result from some mutex waits or
something else that wouldn't stand out in a profiler that measures CPU
resources.

In any case, you could profile the old and new version of vdr and see if
there is any obvious difference.
  
I'll have to take that into consideration. I'll have to download the old 
version and all that :)


\\Kartsa

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Re: [vdr] FF card AV sync problems, possible fix to VDR (fwd)

2007-02-01 Thread Kartsa

Reinhard Nissl kirjoitti:

If you can reproduce this behaviour, would you please activate the
following line in remux.c:

   dsyslog(TS continuity error (%d), ccCounter);
  
I will try with the recording if the problem reappears and then activate 
that line.

The cRepacker messages might be a result of lost TS packets, which
should be reported by the above line.

Another issue might be, that the audio frames do not contain any length
information. Please modify the line

*FrameSize = 0;

in cAudioRepacker::IsValidAudioHeader to

{ *FrameSize = 0; dsyslog(cAudioRepacker: FrameSize == 0); }

for getting this situation reported.
  

Should I do both these changes at the same time or separately?

\\Kartsa

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Re: [vdr] vdr diseqc equivalence of szap diseqc n ?

2007-02-01 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello,

here VDR's log with your patch :
nice -n -19 ./vdr -u root -c /etc/vdr -l 3 -w 90 -s /usr/local/bin/vdrshutdown 
-P'xine -r -q'
t: 1170367257.885, c: 0, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170367257.885, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170367257.921, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367257.921, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_18)
t: 1170367257.941, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367258.129, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367258.297, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367258.449, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170367258.485, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_ON)
t: 1170367258.485, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170367258.507, c: 0, r: 0, a: ==

Then I start xine, no change at all.

I zap :
t: 1170367407.322, c: 0, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170367407.322, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170367407.357, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367407.358, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_13)
t: 1170367407.377, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367407.565, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367407.733, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367407.885, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170367407.921, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367407.922, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170367407.944, c: 0, r: 0, a: ==

I start to record Musique classique (FTA radio, 13.0E) :
t: 1170367493.771, c: 1, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170367493.771, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170367493.889, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367493.891, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_13)
t: 1170367493.909, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367494.165, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367494.401, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367494.637, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170367494.757, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367494.759, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170367494.811, c: 1, r: 0, a: ==

I zap to Euronews (19.2E):
t: 1170367530.794, c: 0, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170367530.794, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_A)
t: 1170367530.830, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367530.830, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_13)
t: 1170367530.850, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367531.038, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367531.206, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367531.358, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_A)
t: 1170367531.394, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_ON)
t: 1170367531.394, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170367531.416, c: 0, r: 0, a: ==

??? I didn't remenber being able to do so with a vanilla vdr ???

I tune to FTA channel on 28.2E :
t: 1170367594.434, c: 0, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170367594.434, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_A)
t: 1170367594.470, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367594.471, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_13)
t: 1170367594.490, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367594.678, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367594.846, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170367594.998, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_A)
t: 1170367595.034, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170367595.034, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170367595.057, c: 0, r: 0, a: ==

I start to record it 

Re: [vdr] [RFC] Shutdown rewrite for 1.5.x

2007-02-01 Thread Tony Houghton
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrick Mackin wrote:

 Also generic video cards are increasingly coming with video decoding
 features, and HDTVs can be connected straight to a PC without the need
 for a horrible scaler or special screen mode. Although not all the
 decoding features are available to Linux, dedicated decoder/TV-out cards
 are looking quite obsolete, and DVB card manufacturers are bound to
 respond to that.
 
 Not to get too off-topic, but I disagree. In north america, from surveying 
 posts on several bulletin boards, vdr usage seems to be 90%+ with FF cards 
 (typically the Nexus-S).

Is that HD-capable? HDTV seems quite common in NA, but currently in the
UK there are very few HD channels, only available through overpriced
subscriptions. It looks unlikely that there'll be any FTA/FTV HD until
at least after the analogue terrestrial switch-off in 2012.

 There's actually the perception with many in NA 
 that vdr doesn't work with budget cards!  And while more PCs are adding the 
 built-in functions a FF card provides (Digital audio out, Coax or S-video 
 out, adequate processing power for decoding) everything seems to be moving 
 to mpeg-4.

If the Nexus-S requires replacement for HD/MPEG4 I wouldn't be surprised
if its successor doesn't feature a decoder. The latest graphics cards
support MPEG4 too, including H.264. Someone posted about a new DVB card
which does have an MPEG4 decoder recently, but pointed out that it's
only a reference design, not a production model. And it's PCI-E, so it
doesn't look like the manufacturers are very keen to support old PCs.

 I know from working regularly with Xvid / mpeg4 files that they 
 require a lot more processing power, and many pcs are older machines 
 dedicated to running vdr, not top of the line full fledged 4 ghz systems. 

I haven't noticed a big difference, although I've only encountered MPEG4
part 2 (DivX etc), usually at lower resolutions than DVB/DVD, as opposed
to HD H.264.

 I've never regretted owning my FF card, and would look for a FF mpeg4 card 
 if I was in the market.  Plus, they always seem the simplest to configure 
 and use with most software, not to mention not requiring a computer monitor 
 to run vdr on FF :) 

Well that was one of my points too. Connecting a typical HDTV to a PC is
pretty much the same as connecting a monitor, not like all the headaches
involved in getting a decent PAL or NTSC signal from a standard graphics
card.

-- 
TH * http://www.realh.co.uk

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Re: [vdr] vdr diseqc equivalence of szap diseqc n ?

2007-02-01 Thread Gregoire Favre
Hello,

just after a dvb modules reload :

nice -n -19 ./vdr -u root -c /etc/vdr -l 3 -w 90 -s /usr/local/bin/vdrshutdown 
-P'xine -r -q'
t: 1170368152.594, c: 0, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170368152.598, c: 1, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170368152.594, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368152.628, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368152.629, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_18)
t: 1170368152.598, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368152.648, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368152.716, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368152.718, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_13)
t: 1170368152.736, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368152.836, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368153.004, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368152.992, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368153.156, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368153.192, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_ON)
t: 1170368153.193, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170368153.215, c: 0, r: 0, a: ==
t: 1170368153.228, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368153.464, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368153.584, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368153.586, c: 1, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170368153.638, c: 1, r: 0, a: ==
t: 1170368156.614, c: 2, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170368156.614, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_A)
t: 1170368156.732, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368156.734, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_13)
t: 1170368156.752, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368157.008, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368157.244, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368157.480, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_A)
t: 1170368157.600, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368157.602, c: 2, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170368157.710, c: 2, r: 0, a: ==

Start xine, tune to Musique classique :

Nothing in the log : I record it... I remove the timer, reload the modules and :
nice -n -19 ./vdr -u root -c /etc/vdr -l 3 -w 90 -s /usr/local/bin/vdrshutdown 
-P'xine -r -q'
t: 1170368358.155, c: 0, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170368358.155, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368358.205, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368358.206, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_13)
t: 1170368358.225, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368358.413, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368358.581, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368358.733, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368358.769, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368358.770, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170368358.792, c: 0, r: 0, a: ==

I tune to Euronews and start to reccord it :
t: 1170368387.590, c: 0, r: 0, a: --
t: 1170368387.590, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368387.626, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_OFF)
t: 1170368387.626, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_VOLTAGE, 
SEC_VOLTAGE_18)
t: 1170368387.646, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368387.834, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368388.002, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_MASTER_CMD, 
cmd)
t: 1170368388.154, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST, 
SEC_MINI_B)
t: 1170368388.190, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_TONE, SEC_TONE_ON)
t: 1170368388.190, c: 0, r: 0, a: ioctl(fd_frontend, FE_SET_FRONTEND, Frontend)
t: 1170368388.212, c: 0, r: 0, a: 

Re: [vdr] vdr diseqc equivalence of szap diseqc n ?

2007-02-01 Thread Reinhard Nissl
Hi,

Reinhard Nissl wrote:

 I'll now add the same output to szap.

See attachment.

While comparing the output of VDR and szap I've discovered a bug in
szap. It didn't set FE_DISEQC_SEND_BURST correctly.

Bye.
-- 
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[vdr] to record or not

2007-02-01 Thread abbe normal

hello all

wondering if there is a way from the timers menu to only select to
record or not record a program. what im wanting to do is set a timer
to watch a program but not have vdr record it... not sure but just
thinking it would be nice to have a option in the menu to not record
but still go to the program...

thanks

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Re: [vdr] to record or not

2007-02-01 Thread Patrick Mackin
I too would like this feature, but if you are using yaepg as many are, it 
seems like that is a feature the plugin should provide, not vdr.



wondering if there is a way from the timers menu to only select to
record or not record a program. what im wanting to do is set a timer
to watch a program but not have vdr record it... not sure but just
thinking it would be nice to have a option in the menu to not record
but still go to the program...



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AW: [vdr] to record or not

2007-02-01 Thread martin
You should have a look at the BigPatch. It has some switch timer included.

Martin

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Betreff: [vdr] to record or not

hello all

wondering if there is a way from the timers menu to only select to
record or not record a program. what im wanting to do is set a timer
to watch a program but not have vdr record it... not sure but just
thinking it would be nice to have a option in the menu to not record
but still go to the program...

thanks

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Re: [vdr] to record or not

2007-02-01 Thread VDR User

On 2/1/07, abbe normal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hello all

wondering if there is a way from the timers menu to only select to
record or not record a program. what im wanting to do is set a timer
to watch a program but not have vdr record it... not sure but just
thinking it would be nice to have a option in the menu to not record
but still go to the program...

thanks



I suggested this feature to Klaus a long time ago and his reply was that
it's on the TODO list, but unfortunately at the bottom.  I wouldn't think
it's a hard thing to do, just add a Record? (y/n) flag to the timer data.
If the record flag is set, it records, if not it only changes the channel.


At any rate, it is something that Klaus has considered.
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