Re: [vdr] xineliboutput sxfe / xxmc / via / EPIA ML6000 : great !

2008-11-24 Thread Torgeir Veimo

On 24 Nov 2008, at 19:37, Nicolas Huillard wrote:


 Blah, only one PCI slot. Where are proper low-power MB's with 2 or  
 more PCI
 slots for DVB-cards?  And how much does the server (NFS, DVB- 
 card(s)) use
 power?

 No use of PCI in the client.


Do you put the DVB cards in the server?

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Re: [vdr] Converting H264 vdr 1.7.0 recordings to xvid (or x264) inavi container

2008-11-24 Thread jori.hamalainen
 I've got the same error than getting it from streamdev in ts format 
 (with wget) and trying to read it with mplayer, the fps is not found but 
 not a problem at all

 Playing bbc.ts.
 TS file format detected.
 VIDEO H264(pid=256) NO AUDIO!  NO SUBS (yet)!  PROGRAM N. 1 
 FPS not specified in the header or invalid, use the -fps option.
 No stream found.

This has been addresses on another thread with playback to Popcorn Hour
'set-top box' device. Patches are already developed and tested.

For quick fix please see:
http://www.vdr-developer.org/mantisbt/view.php?id=496

and apply patch #5.

As TS stream gets more standardized and some other minor changes happened,
the stream is also more compatible with Mplayer. Now mplayer recognizes
the stream better.

Best regards,
Jori



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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput sxfe / xxmc / via / EPIA ML6000 : great !

2008-11-24 Thread Mika Laitio
 Blah, only one PCI slot. Where are proper low-power MB's with 2 or
 more PCI slots for DVB-cards?

 Asrock A780FullDisplay without DisplayPort card
 AMD Athlon X4 3850e
 2GB DDR2-800
 DVD/RW
 300W 80+ Green
 1x Momentus 7200.3 250GB 2,5
 3x WD Caviar Green 1TB 3,5
 Terratec Diversity (Dual Tuner) USB DVB-T
 2x extra Fans

 While recording two DVB-T channels ~ 60W (UPS tells it).
 The WD drives build up a RAID5.
 The A780 chipset is nice for low-power needs.

Yes, I have AMD 780G also in my vdr server and in clients I am currently 
using the vdr-xineliboutput.

What I have now tried to search for is a fast booting client for my old 
P700, that could boot automatically to X with dummy user and then launch 
the vdr-xineliboutput.

The ideal would be that once bios checks have been done, rest of the boot 
would for getting X and vdr client running would take less than 30 seconds 
from the bios checking,  but currently I am very far from that and I am 
not sure what would be the best option for the client.

1) local harddisk for booting and launching X and vdr-sxfe
2) nfs mount from server for booting and launching X and vdr-sxfe
3) local harddisk booting X and connecting to server with XDMCP.
(would video and audio work over XDMCP from server?)
4) lpts5 where some apps would be run from server, while multimedia like
vdr-sxfe would be run from client harddisk

What kind of solutions what boottimes you have for the clients?

Mika

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Re: [vdr] Windows remote client

2008-11-24 Thread jori.hamalainen
 If you want to play H264 and/or HD content, this is not a good solution 
 and you cannot consider use a light client to do that

There is a good solution but it needs work. Popcorn Hour (and compatible)
networked media tanks can replay SD/HD content, on there has been work 
ongoing to fix vdr-streamdev to provide proper TS-stream. 

PCH is light client, some people has measured 12W power on HDD spun up 
and playing stream. PCH is a Linux based settop-box where you can get 
access to shell level and even crosscompile programs with toolchains. 
Box is about 27x13x3cm. HDD is optional but you should install it for
best benefit.

(http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/index.php?pluginoption=catalogtask=
infoitem_id=6main_id=0)

What is needed is Vomp-like or VDRadmin-am-like user interface for streams
and files. It would make PCH as a top alternative of todays front-end for
VDR, and in general a front end to all media you have.

For GB-PVR there is already some work done.
http://gbpvr.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Hardware/NMT

With this device you can discard HTPC's at once unless you do web browsing
with your TV-set.



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Re: [vdr] Converting H264 vdr 1.7.0 recordings to xvid (or x264) inavi container

2008-11-24 Thread dplu
Hi

I have just applied patch #5, some reject so I have to enter manually lines

No major change on mplayer, still have to enter the -fps to let play it but
on popcorn it is night and day, now I can stream to popcorn all my HD channels
and all is working nice, some desentrelacing problem on SD channels but was not
the first goal

Very good job by the way for the author ;o)

have a nice day

Selon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I've got the same error than getting it from streamdev in ts format
  (with wget) and trying to read it with mplayer, the fps is not found but
  not a problem at all

  Playing bbc.ts.
  TS file format detected.
  VIDEO H264(pid=256) NO AUDIO!  NO SUBS (yet)!  PROGRAM N. 1
  FPS not specified in the header or invalid, use the -fps option.
  No stream found.

 This has been addresses on another thread with playback to Popcorn Hour
 'set-top box' device. Patches are already developed and tested.

 For quick fix please see:
 http://www.vdr-developer.org/mantisbt/view.php?id=496

 and apply patch #5.

 As TS stream gets more standardized and some other minor changes happened,
 the stream is also more compatible with Mplayer. Now mplayer recognizes
 the stream better.

 Best regards,
 Jori





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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput crashes when closing the xineliboutput/videomenu

2008-11-24 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Nicolas Huillard may or may not have written...

[snip]
 vdr 1.6.0
 xineliboutput 1.0.3
 xine 1.1.2

Maybe you should upgrade to 1.1.15. :-)

 all Debian etch + e-tobi repository
[snip]
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| + Lobby friends, family, business, government.WE'RE KILLING THE PLANET.

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput sxfe / xxmc / via / EPIA ML6000 : great !

2008-11-24 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Torgeir Veimo a écrit :
 On 24 Nov 2008, at 19:37, Nicolas Huillard wrote:
 
 Blah, only one PCI slot. Where are proper low-power MB's with 2 or  
 more PCI
 slots for DVB-cards?  And how much does the server (NFS, DVB- 
 card(s)) use
 power?
 No use of PCI in the client.
 
 Do you put the DVB cards in the server?

The temporary current setup is weird :
* server only handles NFS root FS and NFS /video share
* 1 client have a PCI DVB-S card, and an USB DVB-T card, with 
streamdev-server
* another client have a PCI DVB-T card, with streamdev-server
* the most recent client have no DVB device

Every DVB device will move to the server, requiring a bit of antennae 
rewiring.

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput sxfe / xxmc / via / EPIA ML6000 : great !

2008-11-24 Thread Tony Houghton
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:58:22 +0100
Holger Rusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The A780 chipset is nice for low-power needs.

That's not what I found. I tried to install an Asus MA738EMH last week
and had to give up in the end and replace it with a similar board with
NVidia 8200 graphics (that choice based on the VDPAU announcement),
MN738VM.

Xorg's radeonhd driver (I used their latest release version, which is in
debian experimental) didn't enable even basic Xv acceleration for the
3200 graphics, so the Athlon X2 4850e CPU I used could barely manage
720p.  Fglrx was OK with MPlayer but Xv didn't work at all with xine and
with OpenGL it caused unrecoverable screen garbling when switching from
full-screen to windowed mode. The whole system would regularly crash
when not doing anything too, and I think that even happened once or
twice with the radeonhd driver.

The new board has worked flawlessly from day one and I expect VDPAU will
be nice and stable and well supported by the time I really need it (for
1080p), whereas it's hard to imagine the ATI ever getting usable
acceleration even for H.264.

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput sxfe / xxmc / via / EPIA ML6000 : great !

2008-11-24 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Mika Laitio a écrit :
 What I have now tried to search for is a fast booting client for my old 
 P700, that could boot automatically to X with dummy user and then launch 
 the vdr-xineliboutput.
 
 The ideal would be that once bios checks have been done, rest of the boot 
 would for getting X and vdr client running would take less than 30 seconds 
 from the bios checking,  but currently I am very far from that and I am 
 not sure what would be the best option for the client.
 
 1) local harddisk for booting and launching X and vdr-sxfe
 2) nfs mount from server for booting and launching X and vdr-sxfe
 3) local harddisk booting X and connecting to server with XDMCP.
 (would video and audio work over XDMCP from server?)
 4) lpts5 where some apps would be run from server, while multimedia like
 vdr-sxfe would be run from client harddisk
 
 What kind of solutions what boottimes you have for the clients?

 From kernel first log line in the syslog server (I guess timestamps are 
when rcS.d/ scripts start to run, ie. does not include kernel load time 
+ initrd), to LIRC accepting the VDR client (including a 5s sleep I had 
to add):
* 31s on the ML6000
* 16s on a Athlon 2200+
* 18s on the M10k

That's with a single NFS root filesystem and network boot (no local 
storage). It does not include kernel + initrd load time over the 
network, BIOS time, etc. It also does not include specific imrpovement, 
except not install unneeded things.

The best timing would be from power-on to live-TV on the display.
BIOS + PXE (network boot) are ugly in this regard... Initrd is also 
time-consuming.

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput crashes when closing the xineliboutput/videomenu

2008-11-24 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Darren Salt a écrit :
 I demand that Nicolas Huillard may or may not have written...
 
 [snip]
 vdr 1.6.0
 xineliboutput 1.0.3
 xine 1.1.2
 
 Maybe you should upgrade to 1.1.15. :-)
 
 all Debian etch + e-tobi repository

Well... I think I'll have a step at 1.1.14, when e-tobi.net is ready for 
lenny, then ;-)
Maybe xserver-xorg-video-openchrome will also solve issues left in 
xserver-xorg-video-via too...

Do you (Darren) still maintain an up-to-date repository with Xorg and 
VDR, Xine, etc? I remember using it when playing with CLE266 hardware 
acceleration, a long time ago.

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Re: [vdr] vdr-1.7.1 video stream format

2008-11-24 Thread Frank Schmirler
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:41:44 +0100, Stefan Lucke wrote
 - dumping the data I got via PlayVideo() to a file neither ffplay nor
   mplayer can identify stream info from dumped data.

Unless I've overlooked some section repacker somewhere, there's a bug in
cPatPmtGenerator. I've already sent the attached patch to Klaus, but he didn't
have time to look at it yet.

Frank
--- remux.c.orig	2008-11-13 13:39:48.0 +0100
+++ remux.c	2008-11-13 16:32:57.0 +0100
@@ -2298,6 +2298,7 @@
   p[i++] = 0x40; // flags (3), pid hi (5)
   p[i++] = 0x00; // pid lo
   p[i++] = 0x10; // flags (4), continuity counter (4)
+  p[i++] = 0x00; // pointer field (payload unit start indicator is set)
   int PayloadStart = i;
   p[i++] = 0x00; // table id
   p[i++] = 0xB0; // section syntax indicator (1), dummy (3), section length hi (4)
@@ -2367,13 +2368,18 @@
  MakeCRC(buf + i, buf, i);
  // split the PMT section into several TS packets:
  uchar *q = buf;
+ bool pusi = true;
  while (i  0) {
uchar *p = pmt[numPmtPackets++];
int j = 0;
p[j++] = 0x47; // TS indicator
-   p[j++] = 0x40 | (P_PNR  8); // flags (3), pid hi (5)
+   p[j++] = (pusi ? 0x40 : 0) | (P_PNR  8); // flags (3), pid hi (5)
p[j++] = P_PNR  0xFF; // pid lo
p[j++] = 0x10; // flags (4), continuity counter (4)
+   if (pusi) {
+  p[j++] = 0x00; // pointer field (payload unit start indicator is set)
+  pusi = false;
+  }
int l = TS_SIZE - j;
memcpy(p + j, q, l);
q += l;
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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Nicolas Huillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems that things are really moving, and VDR-HD may finally work with
 cheap hardware by the time HD material is commonplace.

You must live under a rock if HD content isn't already common where
you live/from your provider!  Here is NA there's tons of HD channels,
with many more coming soon.

Also, building a HD-capable pc is already cheap.  You don't need some
expensive cpu with GB's of ram and so on.  My test box (which uses the
on-board gpu) does HD and was only cpu-$40 + ram-$25 + mainboard-$65.
cpu is amd x2 4400, corsair 2x1GB stick ram kit, mainboard is msi
k9n6sgm-v.  $130 USD and I had a new dvb test box that does HDTV.

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Re: [vdr] vdr-1.7.1 video stream format

2008-11-24 Thread Stefan Lucke
On Monday 24 November 2008, Frank Schmirler wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:41:44 +0100, Stefan Lucke wrote
  - dumping the data I got via PlayVideo() to a file neither ffplay nor
mplayer can identify stream info from dumped data.
 
 Unless I've overlooked some section repacker somewhere, there's a bug in
 cPatPmtGenerator. I've already sent the attached patch to Klaus, but he didn't
 have time to look at it yet.

Thanks,

but things went worse with that on my system:
audio disappeared and nothing more to dump in PlayVideo() :-( .


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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread VDR User
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Niels Wagenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Only, in the US most of the HDTV transports don't use H264. At least, I
 heard from several people that it's HDTV through MPEG2. Over here (Europe)
 it's mostly HDTV through H264 (only a very small number of MPEG2 HDTV
 channels over here).

You've been given bad information.  There are _some_ HDTV channels
broadcast in mpeg2 but most are h264.

 Currently I need to use a Core 2 Quad (Q6600 @ 2.40GHz) to get decent and
 stutter-free H264 decoding using software (FFMpeg SVN, Xine-lib 1.2,
 Xine-UI and vdr-xine plugin). With my Core 2 Duo (E7300 @ 2.53Ghz) I
 didn't had enough juice (stuttering, framedrops, etc).

You absolutely do not need a quad-core CPU and your Core 2 Duo should
easily handle h264 decoding.  I'd say something was misconfigured or
so.

Btw, I use CoreAVC here and the cpu usage doesn't go above about 87%
on that x2 4400.  The h264 implimentation in ffmpeg was very unstable
when I tried it although I heard it's gotten much better.

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Re: [vdr] New Video Decode and Presentation API from NVidia

2008-11-24 Thread Artem Makhutov
Hi,

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:43:14AM -0800, VDR User wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Niels Wagenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Only, in the US most of the HDTV transports don't use H264. At least, I
  heard from several people that it's HDTV through MPEG2. Over here (Europe)
  it's mostly HDTV through H264 (only a very small number of MPEG2 HDTV
  channels over here).
 
 You've been given bad information.  There are _some_ HDTV channels
 broadcast in mpeg2 but most are h264.
 
  Currently I need to use a Core 2 Quad (Q6600 @ 2.40GHz) to get decent and
  stutter-free H264 decoding using software (FFMpeg SVN, Xine-lib 1.2,
  Xine-UI and vdr-xine plugin). With my Core 2 Duo (E7300 @ 2.53Ghz) I
  didn't had enough juice (stuttering, framedrops, etc).
 
 You absolutely do not need a quad-core CPU and your Core 2 Duo should
 easily handle h264 decoding.  I'd say something was misconfigured or
 so.
 
 Btw, I use CoreAVC here and the cpu usage doesn't go above about 87%
 on that x2 4400.  The h264 implimentation in ffmpeg was very unstable
 when I tried it although I heard it's gotten much better.

And what resolution?

720p ?

I have no problems in decoding 720p, but 1080i is a bit more difficult to 
decode.
I have also tried out CoreAVC, but ffmpeg worked better for me.

Regards, Artem

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Re: [vdr] Where is the H.264 patch?

2008-11-24 Thread Tony Houghton
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:49:23 +0100
jlacvdr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 to vdr-1.7.0, in attach file of this message :
 http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-April/016513.html

Is there a patch that will work with 1.6.0? It'll make things rather
easier if I can just patch the debian packages instead of completely
replacing them.

If I do have to use 1.7.x does this patch still work with 1.7.1 ie it's
safe to ignore the failed hunk in transfer.c which has apparently
changed radically?

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Re: [vdr] xineliboutput sxfe / xxmc / via / EPIA ML6000 : great !

2008-11-24 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Alex Betis a écrit :
 On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Nicolas Huillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 From kernel first log line in the syslog server (I guess timestamps are
 when rcS.d/ scripts start to run, ie. does not include kernel load time
 + initrd), to LIRC accepting the VDR client (including a 5s sleep I had
 to add):
 * 31s on the ML6000
 * 16s on a Athlon 2200+
 * 18s on the M10k
 
 Guys,
 How about putting the system in suspend mode instead of powering it off and
 on again? Should take few seconds.
 Some of you were talking about UPS, so its even safer than I can have...
 VDR can resume from suspend to record programs.

I'll try that ;-)
Suspend to RAM as always been a pain in my various trials, but this is a 
much simpler goal than a complete laptop.
Virtually no device to take down/bring up on a pure streamdev client. 
NFS handles must just survive the long delay, but it should be OK.

This also works around an annoying bug in the (non-upgraded) EPIA BIOS: 
the PXE LAN boot does not always initialize the network interface after 
a shutdown. One have to unplug power to boot correctly next time...

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Re: [vdr] Where is the H.264 patch?

2008-11-24 Thread Petri Helin
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Tony Houghton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:49:23 +0100
 jlacvdr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 to vdr-1.7.0, in attach file of this message :
 http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-April/016513.html

 Is there a patch that will work with 1.6.0? It'll make things rather
 easier if I can just patch the debian packages instead of completely
 replacing them.


http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-March/016227.html

-Petri

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