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2014-08-11 Thread 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail
Reuven Segal
   So dear Tony..do you see a future for bamboo tenkara rods? Won't have to 
deal anymore with those pesky guides and wrappings :) R On 10/08/2014 1:23 PM, 
jerryp...@comcast.net wrote:  I've messed a  
To vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Aug 10 at 9:20 PM  
So dear Tony..do you see a future for bamboo tenkara rods?
Won't have to deal anymore with those pesky guides and wrappings :)

R

Reuven, I have not given it a thought, I don't think I would get to it though 
it might be interesting.
Tony

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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Allan Fish

On 8/11/14, 12:54 AM, Reuven Segal wrote:
And you still managed to catch fish? I didn't know they had braided 
line 'way back when'.


Actually, braided lines were all we had.   That was before monofilament 
was invented.


Heck, that was before TV was invented. And Oldsmobile was just coming 
out with it's Hydramatic Transmission - the first automatic 
transmission.. Golly - we said the car was just plain shiftless.  There 
have been many advances in science and manufacturing in the past 78 
years...not all of them for the better.


Truth be told, I was referring to split cane rods. How can one expect 
to catch fish on straight bamboo?


Quite readily.

The jobs for us kids were to dig the worm and then reach out the front 
and back car windows to hold the cane poles on top of the car while dad 
drove us to some farm pond.  That's the only time we were allowed to 
stick our arms out of the car windows, so we got a big kick out of it.


a.

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RE: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread J Balmer
When we used to fish the trophy area below Table Rock Dam, we'd see what we 
called fish slappers standing less than five feet apart on both sides of the 
outflows from the fishery. They'd have just about the length of the rod out  
just keep drifting a fly through the current, lift  slap it back up flow.

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Wes:
  That's the one.  It's a cheap way to try tenkara fishing. You can put a loop 
on the piece of fly line you want to and do a loop to eye connection.  Another 
way, as I found out by accident, the one I bought had a butt cap on it which 
came off and I could have popped the tip top off and threaded the fly line 
through the rod and seated it with some Goop or flexible cement.  Cabela's 
recommendation that the line shouldn't be longer than the rod is right on the 
money.  If you're planning on using a leader, you might want to make a bit 
shorter.
  I actually met Mark and his wife at a show many, many years ago.
- Original Message -
Hi Jerry,

Thanks for the info.  Is this the rod you were talking about?
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Telescopic-Panfish-Poles/738690.uts

Some notes on Tenkara.  Some of you remember VFB member Mark Romero, who sadly 
passed a couple of years ago. His spouse Misa Ishimura was co-author of one of 
the books on Tenkara fishing.

http://tinyurl.com/l9v3zae

More on Misa here:
https://sites.google.com/site/misakoishimura/


Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon






On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:23 PM, jerryp...@comcast.net wrote:

 I've messed around with it.  I first saw my first tenkara rod about 5 
 or 6 years ago when a customer walked in to the local fly shop I 
 frequent.  He was a frequent traveler and well versed in tenkara 
 fishing.  He'd brought a tenkara rod back from Japan which set the 
 owner back $300.  He showed us how to rig it and demonstrated a bit of 
 casting.  I had a chance to exam in the rod and it looked familiar 
 to me.  Reminded of the long cane poles we sometime used for crappie fishing 
 when I was in college in NW Tennessee.
  Went home and rummaged through my Cabela's catalog and came across 
 telescoping graphite crappie poles, ranged from 10 to 14 feet in 
 length.  I ordered a 10 footer and when I got it I took it to the shop 
 and we compared it with the Tenkara rod very little difference even 
 manufactured by the same company except the price which was $275 less 
 than the shop owner.  I used it a couple of times but it's tough to 
 use a 10 foot rod.  Still if folks are interested in getting into 
 tenkara fishing, it's an inexpensive way to get started.

 Jerry C

 - Original Message -
 I did some fishing with them in January and caught some large piranhas 
 with them.

 To me they are nice to use when I go to the local pond.

 Jim Forshey
 Placerville, California


  Original message 
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 Date:08/09/2014  3:53 PM  (GMT-08:00)
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 Cc:
 Subject: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

 Has anyone else here gotten into Tenkara yet?  I'm now using it where 
 I used to go to my two weight.  5th year of drought, the rivers and 
 creeks are low, Tenkara means sight casting to small fish , for the most part.
 And you can get a deep rod bend out of a 5 inch sunfish.

 We are also having some luck in using Tenkara to get new fishermen 
 interested in the fly.  The rods are a little steep, but there's no 
 reel involved and lines go for $2 - $20.  Very light and easy to cast.  
 We (my local fly club) have a beginner's Tenkara outing scheduled for 
 next weekend and we have 30 people signed up.  We'll pair them up with 
 experienced fishermen and get them rolling.  Gonna have to put a few 
 on regular rods part-time 'cause we don't have access to that many T-rods.

 Jack
 Austin

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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Alan Di Somma
Back in the early 50's, my father actually made three bamboo surf rods from 
straight bamboo.
He tied the guides on and the Penn reel was held on with hose clamps. 
The handle was nothing more then black electrical tape rapped around the base.
I actually remember him catching eels in the Hudson River.
We took them down the Jersey Shore and used them in the surf.

When you are poor and don't have any  expendable cash, you find ways to make 
what you want.


phxflytyer
Phoenix,AZ


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 Truth be told, I was referring to split cane rods. How can one expect to 
 catch fish on straight bamboo?
 

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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Allan Fish

Alan (who needs another L in his name) said:
When you are poor and don't have any expendable cash, you find ways to 
make what you want.


But we didn't realize we were poor. Nobody else had any money either. 
You did with what you had or could get for next to nothing. I think 
bamboo 'poles' (actually just long bamboo stalks) were about 2 or 3 
bucks back then.


And did we catch fish? Yes. During WWII, that was 'free' food.

a.

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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Alan Di Somma
FREE FOOD but I wouldn't eat those eel's.

My dad used to go out on a party boat after work on Friday nights and come back 
just around dawn with Blue fish they caught.
I hated that also. Very oily and fishy tasting.


phxflytyer
Phoenix,AZ


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take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian.
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On Aug 11, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Alan (who needs another L in his name) said:
 When you are poor and don't have any expendable cash, you find ways to make 
 what you want.
 
 But we didn't realize we were poor. Nobody else had any money either. You did 
 with what you had or could get for next to nothing. I think bamboo 'poles' 
 (actually just long bamboo stalks) were about 2 or 3 bucks back then.
 
 And did we catch fish? Yes. During WWII, that was 'free' food.
 
 a.
 
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Re: 2:23 p.m. [VFB] MASTER] Summary of Are we tO Old Survey

2014-08-11 Thread Bruce Whittle




 Just fall in linend, type your name and age

Jimmy D. 77
Tony Spezio --85
Denny Conrad--79 3/4
Allan fish--78
Don Ordes - 63
Peggy Brenner - 65
Nev Gosling - 68
Wayne Blake-Hedges - 54
Jerry Caruso - 66
Dan harrington - 63
Reuven Segal - 38
Ron Boutin - 64
Alan Di somma - 71
Walter Shockley - 65
Gary Webb - 67
Jimi - Desert Eagle - 57
Joyce Wetphal -73
J Balmer - 61
Mel Hocken - agless ,
 Bob Hendry - 70
Rene 59 Jack 45,
Rick 64,
 Thomas 70,
 Brian 62,
Scott 37,
Gary 67
Michael 66
*Jeff 54*

   Bruce Whittle - 45


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RE: 2:23 p.m. [VFB] MASTER] Summary of Are we tO Old Survey

2014-08-11 Thread J Balmer
More younguns than I thoughtJ

 

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 Just fall in linend, type your name and age
 
Jimmy D. 77 
Tony Spezio --85 
Denny Conrad--79 3/4 
Allan fish--78 
Don Ordes - 63 
Peggy Brenner - 65 
Nev Gosling - 68 
Wayne Blake-Hedges - 54 
Jerry Caruso - 66 
Dan harrington - 63 
Reuven Segal - 38 
Ron Boutin - 64 
Alan Di somma - 71 
Walter Shockley - 65 
Gary Webb - 67 
Jimi - Desert Eagle - 57 
Joyce Wetphal -73 
J Balmer - 61 
Mel Hocken - agless ,
 Bob Hendry - 70 
Rene 59 Jack 45, 
Rick 64,
 Thomas 70,
 Brian 62,
Scott 37, 
Gary 67
Michael 66

Jeff 54

   Bruce Whittle - 45





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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail
Tip is much finer for one thing.
Also with the taper on the rod much easier to cast line that with a cane pole.
Rick 


On Monday, August 11, 2014 2:45 PM, Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  


Dem's Fightin' Words!!

Actually, just kinda sorta.  With Tenkara, you are actually using a 
cast-able fly line, either level or tapered, tippet and flies. Sorta 
like the difference between a bobber and an indicator.

The whole idea is minimalist.  carry very few flies, tippet, and a two 
ounce, telescoping rod.
Jack


On 8/11/2014 11:12 AM, Don Ordes wrote:
 Isn't Tenkara the same as cane-pole fishing, just with a leader and 
 fly rather than a worm and bobber?
 DonO

 -Original Message- From: Jack Lehman
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 4:53 PM
 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

 Has anyone else here gotten into Tenkara yet?  I'm now using it where I
 used to go to my two weight.  5th year of drought, the rivers and creeks
 are low, Tenkara means sight casting to small fish , for the most part.
 And you can get a deep rod bend out of a 5 inch sunfish.

 We are also having some luck in using Tenkara to get new fishermen
 interested in the fly.  The rods are a little steep, but there's no reel
 involved and lines go for $2 - $20.  Very light and easy to cast. We
 (my local fly club) have a beginner's Tenkara outing scheduled for next
 weekend and we have 30 people signed up.  We'll pair them up with
 experienced fishermen and get them rolling.  Gonna have to put a few on
 regular rods part-time 'cause we don't have access to that many T-rods.

 Jack
 Austin


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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Joyce M Westphal
I grew up with 10 foot long bamboo poles with very fine tips..about the
same  in size as the ones on my 5 wt fly rod. There was a line, tied to the
very tip and half hitched down about a foot for strength, that  we cast
out, and often didn't use a bobber as then the worm (Yikes..we were bait
fishers) would quickly sink to the bottom. Then we'd slowly slide the line
in toward shore.  Sounds like the same technique would work with the
tenkara rods.  My friend, Eddie Robinson, of the fly shop by the same name,
says he uses his regular fly rod just like this all the time in our rivers
with good results and, of course, using a fly. Joyce


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:06 PM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Tip is much finer for one thing.
 Also with the taper on the rod much easier to cast line that with a cane
 pole.
 Rick


   On Monday, August 11, 2014 2:45 PM, Jack Lehman jklepo...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:


 Dem's Fightin' Words!!

 Actually, just kinda sorta.  With Tenkara, you are actually using a
 cast-able fly line, either level or tapered, tippet and flies. Sorta
 like the difference between a bobber and an indicator.

 The whole idea is minimalist.  carry very few flies, tippet, and a two
 ounce, telescoping rod.
 Jack

 On 8/11/2014 11:12 AM, Don Ordes wrote:
  Isn't Tenkara the same as cane-pole fishing, just with a leader and
  fly rather than a worm and bobber?
  DonO
 
  -Original Message- From: Jack Lehman
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 4:53 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?
 
  Has anyone else here gotten into Tenkara yet?  I'm now using it where I
  used to go to my two weight.  5th year of drought, the rivers and creeks
  are low, Tenkara means sight casting to small fish , for the most part.
  And you can get a deep rod bend out of a 5 inch sunfish.
 
  We are also having some luck in using Tenkara to get new fishermen
  interested in the fly.  The rods are a little steep, but there's no reel
  involved and lines go for $2 - $20.  Very light and easy to cast. We
  (my local fly club) have a beginner's Tenkara outing scheduled for next
  weekend and we have 30 people signed up.  We'll pair them up with
  experienced fishermen and get them rolling.  Gonna have to put a few on
  regular rods part-time 'cause we don't have access to that many T-rods.
 
  Jack
  Austin
 

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Re: 2:23 p.m. [VFB] MASTER] Summary of Are we tO Old Survey

2014-08-11 Thread Bob
Jimmy D. 77 
Tony Spezio --85 
Denny Conrad--79 3/4 
Allan fish--78 
Don Ordes - 63 
Peggy Brenner - 65 
Nev Gosling - 68 
Wayne Blake-Hedges - 54 
Jerry Caruso - 66 
Dan harrington - 63 
Reuven Segal - 38 
Ron Boutin - 64 
Alan Di somma - 71 
Walter Shockley - 65 
Gary Webb - 67 
Jimi - Desert Eagle - 57 
Joyce Wetphal -73 
J Balmer - 61 
Mel Hocken - agless , 
Bob Hendry - 70 
Rene 59 Jack 45, 
Rick 64, 
Thomas 70, 
Brian 62, 
Scott 37, 
Gary 67 
Michael 66 



Jeff 54 



Bruce Whittle - 45 BobH 57 I do not know why I keep getting deleted 

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More younguns than I thought J 



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Just fall in linend, type your name and age 

Jimmy D. 77 
Tony Spezio --85 
Denny Conrad--79 3/4 
Allan fish--78 
Don Ordes - 63 
Peggy Brenner - 65 
Nev Gosling - 68 
Wayne Blake-Hedges - 54 
Jerry Caruso - 66 
Dan harrington - 63 
Reuven Segal - 38 
Ron Boutin - 64 
Alan Di somma - 71 
Walter Shockley - 65 
Gary Webb - 67 
Jimi - Desert Eagle - 57 
Joyce Wetphal -73 
J Balmer - 61 
Mel Hocken - agless , 
Bob Hendry - 70 
Rene 59 Jack 45, 
Rick 64, 
Thomas 70, 
Brian 62, 
Scott 37, 
Gary 67 
Michael 66 
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blockquote


Jeff 54 
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Bruce Whittle - 45 



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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Allan Fish
 Jack Lehman wrote:
 
 a two ounce, telescoping rod

And therein lies the major difference. Those bamboo shoots could get mighty 
heavy before the day was over. 
a. 

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Re: 2:23 p.m. [VFB] MASTER] Summary of Are we tO Old Survey

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Morger
Robert. 53
On Aug 10, 2014 2:26 PM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote:


   Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote:


   Sorry to be so late and messy

  Tore ligament in left wrist and hard to type.. If you don't show and
 know you're on the list, jusst add your name and age again. and send to
 me.  I'll try to do better.

 Ok, young and old farts, (VFB'ers). lets do one of My well known VFB
 surveys.  OK?? Could be fun. Add your name ans awns ro list  has
 already livned thins up.
 JIMMY D

  Just fall in linend, type your name and age

 Jimmy D. 77
 Tony Spezio --85
 Denny Conrad--79 3/4
 Allan fish--78
 Don Ordes - 63
 Peggy Brenner - 65
 Nev Gosling - 68
 Wayne Blake-Hedges - 54
 Jerry Caruso - 66
 Dan harrington - 63
 Reuven Segal - 38
 Ron Boutin - 64
 Alan Di somma - 71
 Walter Shockley - 65
 Gary Webb - 67
 Jimi - Desert Eagle - 57
 Joyce Wetphal -73
 J Balmer - 61
 Mel Hocken - agless ,
  Bob Hendry - 70
 Rene 59 Jack 45,
 Rick 64,
  Thomas 70,
  Brian 62,
 Scott 37,
 Gary 67
 Michael 66

 *Jeff 54*

 AND THE LIST GROWS AND GROWS.



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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Jerryphl9
When we used to out to Reelfoot lake when I was in college they had a couple 
rows of cane poles on the porch of the bait shop.  Being more sophisticated 
than the locals we use our spinning gear.  Still can't explain how those folks 
with the cane poles always ended up with a bunch of slabs, while we caught the 
8 to 12 inch crappie.
  Bluefish ain't bad, you just have to cook them right.  You cook them on a 
cedar plank over the grill, when they're done you throw away the bluefish and 
eat the cedar plank.   I like the snapper blues 10-18 inches long.  Filleted 
and pan fried the same day they're pretty tasty.

Jerry C

- Original Message -
FREE FOOD but I wouldn't eat those eel's.

My dad used to go out on a party boat after work on Friday nights and come back 
just around dawn with Blue fish they caught.
I hated that also. Very oily and fishy tasting.


phxflytyer
Phoenix,AZ


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take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian.
Henry Ford

On Aug 11, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Alan (who needs another L in his name) said:
 When you are poor and don't have any expendable cash, you find ways to make 
 what you want.
 
 But we didn't realize we were poor. Nobody else had any money either. You did 
 with what you had or could get for next to nothing. I think bamboo 'poles' 
 (actually just long bamboo stalks) were about 2 or 3 bucks back then.
 
 And did we catch fish? Yes. During WWII, that was 'free' food.
 
 a.
 
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Monday 8/14. [VFB] MASTER] Summary of Are we tO Old Survey

2014-08-11 Thread Jimmy D. Moore



Jimmy D. Moore wrote:



  Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net 
mailto:ray...@earthlink.net wrote:




 Sorry to be so late and messy 


Tore ligament in left wrist and hard to type.. If you don't show and
know you're on the list, jusst add your name and age again. and send 
to me.  I'll try to do better.


Ok, young and old farts, (VFB'ers). lets do one of My well known 
VFB surveys.  OK?? Could be fun. Add your name ans awns ro 
list  has already livned thins up.

JIMMY D

 Just fall in linend, type your name and age
 
Jimmy D. 77

Tony Spezio --85
Denny Conrad--79 3/4
Allan fish--78
Don Ordes - 63
Peggy Brenner - 65
Nev Gosling - 68
Wayne Blake-Hedges - 54
Jerry Caruso - 66
Dan harrington - 63
Reuven Segal - 38
Ron Boutin - 64
Alan Di somma - 71
Walter Shockley - 65
Gary Webb - 67
Jimi - Desert Eagle - 57
Joyce Wetphal -73
J Balmer - 61
Mel Hocken - agless ,
 Bob Hendry - 70
Rene 59 






 Jack 45,
 Rick 64,
 Thomas 70,
 Brian 62,
Scott 37,
Gary 67
Michael 66 


Bruce 45
Jeff 54
   Bob Haerig 57



AND THE LIST GROWS AND GROWS.







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Re: 2:23 p.m. [VFB] MASTER] Summary of Are we tO Old Survey

2014-08-11 Thread Dan
Hello old and not so old farts;

Who ever is in charge of this list, please change my last name from Harrington 
to Harriman.
It would surely be nice!  LOL!

Thank you,

Salty Dan Harriman
Orange Texas
If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving!


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 Date: Monday, August 11, 2014, 6:23 PM
 
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Re: 2:23 p.m. [VFB] MASTER] Summary of Are we tO Old Survey

2014-08-11 Thread Allan Fish
Heck fire, Salty. One of the moderators mighty be able to do that. Lemme 
see.?  Oh. That would be Jimmy D., me or Who's that third guy?  Now I 
remember. Some guy that calls himself Salty Dan.  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Dan kc5...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hello old and not so old farts;
 
 Who ever is in charge of this list, please change my last name from 
 Harrington to Harriman.
 It would surely be nice!  LOL!
 
 Thank you,
 
 Salty Dan Harriman
 Orange Texas
 If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving!
 
 
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 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 11, 2014, 6:23 PM
 
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Re: [VFB] Tenkara Anyone?

2014-08-11 Thread Allan Fish
jerryp...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Still can't explain how those folks with the cane poles always ended up with 
 a bunch of slabs, while we caught the 8 to 12 inch crappie. 

They used bigger miners closer to the stumps. 

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