[VFB] Re: Tony
Rene, my sentime Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:33:38 +0100 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tony From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de Hi Tony, I understand, but disagree. pls stay with the gang. There are times where we have more banter and chat on the line, and times where we talk more technical. And silent times, where we think that the list might die. I remember times, where I sorted my inbox by sender names, and deleted groups Anyway,, we have now trained Mark, so that he is sending his pics in a reasonable size, and we will get further things sorted out as well. Right now there are posts which I read always very carefully, this are all of your posts, from DonO, Buggs, iain, Mart, some of Mark's, and there are a lot of posts where I read the first line, and than delete it immediately. And to be honest, I found a lot of posts in the last days very interesting and enjoyable. Mark's flies, harvesting materials (starling), Joice' question about static on materials, behavior on shows. I'd rather delete clutter, than loosing valuable information. And to all members: is it really necessary to write posts to the list, which contains only LOL, Hurrra or I see? All the best to my friends on the list and special to Tony Rene -Original Message- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:31:18 +0100 Subject: [VFB] Re: Tony From: David Masson mass...@nb.sympatico.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Hi tony well we'll miss you for sure you take care of yourself and thanks for everything drop me a line when ever you think of it You take care you'll be miss for sure dave FROM: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] ON BEHALF OF Don Ordes SENT: November 18, 2009 3:15 PM TO: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com SUBJECT: [VFB] Tony As soon as I send in the Christmas swap photos, I am out of here. I have been with this list since day one but it is time to leave. Tony Tony, I will miss you on here, but I understand. I will always remember the IOFF, Spines vs Splines, Co-op swaps, and 700 VFBers from years ago. DonO _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Tony
My sentiments exactly. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:33:38 +0100 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tony From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de Hi Tony, I understand, but disagree. pls stay with the gang. There are times where we have more banter and chat on the line, and times where we talk more technical. And silent times, where we think that the list might die. I remember times, where I sorted my inbox by sender names, and deleted groups Anyway,, we have now trained Mark, so that he is sending his pics in a reasonable size, and we will get further things sorted out as well. Right now there are posts which I read always very carefully, this are all of your posts, from DonO, Buggs, iain, Mart, some of Mark's, and there are a lot of posts where I read the first line, and than delete it immediately. And to be honest, I found a lot of posts in the last days very interesting and enjoyable. Mark's flies, harvesting materials (starling), Joice' question about static on materials, behavior on shows. I'd rather delete clutter, than loosing valuable information. And to all members: is it really necessary to write posts to the list, which contains only LOL, Hurrra or I see? All the best to my friends on the list and special to Tony Rene -Original Message- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:31:18 +0100 Subject: [VFB] Re: Tony From: David Masson mass...@nb.sympatico.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Hi tony well we'll miss you for sure you take care of yourself and thanks for everything drop me a line when ever you think of it You take care you'll be miss for sure dave FROM: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] ON BEHALF OF Don Ordes SENT: November 18, 2009 3:15 PM TO: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com SUBJECT: [VFB] Tony As soon as I send in the Christmas swap photos, I am out of here. I have been with this list since day one but it is time to leave. Tony Tony, I will miss you on here, but I understand. I will always remember the IOFF, Spines vs Splines, Co-op swaps, and 700 VFBers from years ago. DonO _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Sowbug meeting/fly
Peggy, do you mean your planning to attend this year? If so, i'll email Richard Thomas and see if he sent you an invite or not. They just went out day before yesterday. We got ours the next day (yesterday), and i hand delivered it to Richard last night. It was the first two he got back, and he announced that at the meeting...lol. Anyway.just lemme know. You know you can stay here again if you like. The spare bedroom you used last time is taken already. But you can use either of the two footons in the living room or the fold out couch in the family room. Kevin Slater will also be staying here and so will maybe another girl. We're not sure yet, but there will be a house full. If we have two girls, ya'll can share the footons in the lving room, and Kevin will be on the couch. Lemme know. mark. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:17:14 -0500 Subject: [VFB] Re: Sowbug meeting/fly From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I took last year off and think I'm off the tyers list as I forgot to sent back the form in 2008, the last year I went, if I can get back in I'm planning to attend again. Peggy On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Always a good feelin' and the mark of really lookin' forward to the new year when the Sowbug invites show up in the mail.Today is a good day.for that reason, and because we have an NAFF meeting tonight. Joe, i'll get those pics taken asap, bet you got yours in the mail today as well. i gotta hit the shower and get outta here. p.s. i'm only gonna do My flies on Thur. Sat. at Sowbug.Fri. i'm doin' Trout flies so it makes it easier to pack up for the dinner, lmao. i hope this is the right pic.i won't know til i look in my sent box. if so, this was tyed on one of those old antique Mustad 3899 hooks. 4/0 i think it isi guess we'll see.. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Peggy Brenner _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: lemme know
Dang, i guess that croping didn't work. i'll have to get Misa to show me the resizing routing again. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:10:42 -0600 From: jklepo...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: lemme know This one is about twice the size of my Mozilla viewing window. The one you sent wrong, then right was OK for me. I have plenty of bandwidth, so that's not a problem for me. If the little corner of the fly I can see looks interesting, I then open it in another program that sizes to screen, but usually I don't. (I do have a 22 inch screen and they still don't fit.) Some people don't have the bandwidth, others may have to pay by their volume of mail or have limitations on file size. Your large pictures hurt both of them. Jack Austin Mark Romero wrote: Does this one fit? i cropted it. Hook: Alex jackson i painted bout 4/5 different colors Thread: most likely Danville 6/0 Primrose Tag: some kinna bright green braid.prolly Lagartun Tail: 4/5 dyed Green GP crest Butt: Blue Ostrich herl Body: rear half is a brightly colored bead which does not show up anywhere near as nice as it is in the pic. Front half is two different dubbing brushes.a Pink one which i think is an Enrico Puglisi and i know the front (Blue) one definately is an Enrico db. The bead is veiled with Peacock herl above and below Wing: is full feather dyed hot pink Guinea secondaries with a couple different brand of flash involved/mixed throughout inside collar is lime green Whiting Bird Fur. Outter collar is Blue Eared Pheasent. Head:purple Ostrich herl, the finished having been painted blue green. Eye: dyed green Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
guys, settle down.this is not ww 3. lol...with a little effort on everyone's part we can get the bugs worked out...i'll try to get the resizing thing together and ya'll work on your settings. From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:28:10 -0800 When I first bought and started using this PC - ALL my images, jpegs etc were to large. My daughter brought the computer geek from work and in five minutes; all images were in range and viewable. ALL I said was it worked for me BUT MAY not for others and implied that it could be thier settings. That is the first place I would have looked at (all parties). If Tony has a problem with what I said; let him respond to me and Mark. That is not your responsibility! In fact, it is time to drop the subject and go offline direct. I, for one, an getting tired of seeing 40 resposes from one person. It was so nice for a year or so. May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:07:36 -0600 You and Jim must have YOUR settings set to fit to screen on photos. FACT is, they are 2 megs and larger. Do ya'll think Tony's settings are messed up too??? Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large it HAS to be on their end Jim, or i'd have the same problem, as would you, and everyone else. Thing is, i Was resizeing til i found out it wasn't nessessaryand ANYTHING TO SAVE TIMEbut, i spose i could do it for those that have messed up systems. Aint no biggiei'll try to remember... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:56:35 -0800 Mark I have NO PROBLEM. I agree that their settings MAY be off. May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:37:43 -0700 actually i think my monitor is 17 or 19 inches...standard laptop...puter is a Dell Inspiron 1721 From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:22:48 -0600 You must have a 42 inch monitor LOL, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large dang, i didn't realize that was happeningthey don't make me do that when i go see my Sent email. i check every enail i send to make sure it's correct. pics are always cool. maybe it's on your end. Cause they come back into my sent box and return VFB inbox fine. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:59:04 -0600 Thing is though, you can downsize a pic in 30 seconds, and that way the ppl looking at the pic don't have to scroll back and forth, right and left to see the pic of the flies, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:49 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large yeah, i know.at least to some degree that's the problem..but hell, if i can get to where one GOOD pic is all i need, then that won't be a problem...not to mention down-sizing is just one more thing that takes time and makes the whole process just that much more time consumming and a pain in the ass. tye the fly.take the pic.etc., etc., etc., etc.,..by the time your getting some feedback..jesus h., you've got How much time investedlmao. i know, i know...bithc bitch bitch.lol. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:40:58 -0600 Mark: The emails are over weight cause you need to size down the pics LOL. Chuck Please see our
[VFB] Re: Sowbug meeting/fly
Jeff, here it is olgrf...@centurytel.net and yes, Richard Thomas is the new tying chair, hand picked by Dean. And a VERY nice guy. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:23:52 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Sowbug meeting/fly To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark, is Richard the tying coordinator now that Dean stepped down? If so, can you please get me an e-mail addy for him and/or a phone number. We are up to 4 of us tying as of last year out of the 30 or so that come down. I think we may have a few others that would like to do it now that they know it's not so scary. I'm working on something fun for this year. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 11:12:02 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Sowbug meeting/fly Peggy, do you mean your planning to attend this year? If so, i'll email Richard Thomas and see if he sent you an invite or not. They just went out day before yesterday. We got ours the next day (yesterday), and i hand delivered it to Richard last night. It was the first two he got back, and he announced that at the meeting...lol. Anyway.just lemme know. You know you can stay here again if you like. The spare bedroom you used last time is taken already. But you can use either of the two footons in the living room or the fold out couch in the family room. Kevin Slater will also be staying here and so will maybe another girl. We're not sure yet, but there will be a house full. If we have two girls, ya'll can share the footons in the lving room, and Kevin will be on the couch. Lemme know. mark. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:17:14 -0500 Subject: [VFB] Re: Sowbug meeting/fly From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I took last year off and think I'm off the tyers list as I forgot to sent back the form in 2008, the last year I went, if I can get back in I'm planning to attend again. Peggy On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Always a good feelin' and the mark of really lookin' forward to the new year when the Sowbug invites show up in the mail.Today is a good day.for that reason, and because we have an NAFF meeting tonight. Joe, i'll get those pics taken asap, bet you got yours in the mail today as well. i gotta hit the shower and get outta here. p.s. i'm only gonna do My flies on Thur. Sat. at Sowbug.Fri. i'm doin' Trout flies so it makes it easier to pack up for the dinner, lmao. i hope this is the right pic.i won't know til i look in my sent box. if so, this was tyed on one of those old antique Mustad 3899 hooks. 4/0 i think it isi guess we'll see.. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Peggy Brenner _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: how's the size
that didn't open for me Jimbo. just got that little red X in the square... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: how's the size Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:37:33 -0800 This is how they ALL have been coming in to me. May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] how's the size Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:27:49 -0700 is this one sized right? Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. /html _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Why Wyoming? (Fly-fishing related)
IainLMAO...Willie Nelson be one of the hippest cats out here. Even Miles was a fan. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Why Wyoming? (Fly-fishing related) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:20:27 + Now then, if Willie Nelson was singing Whiskey for my men and beer for my horses I might just come see ya. iain From: f...@tribcsp.com And you wonder why anyone would want to live in Wyoming: http://logan.geoconsulting.us/ Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: another try- photo re-sizing for emails
YO Don, first of all, i don't speak Greek.rotflmao.and i don't use photoshop...as far as i know.hell, i don't even know if i GOT photoshopwhen i did the croping.i used Paint. But basically speakin'..i likes keepin' it SIMPLE! Attache the pic, hit send..simple enough. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: another try- photo re-sizing for emails Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:25:03 -0700 Mark, Are you using Adobe Photoshop to crop? Are you using Windows Mail? There is more than one way to re-size a photo: (some less work than others) 1. In windows, use rich format and insert the photo- don't use attachment. This will give you the giant picture we see when you send it. Use the upper left corner grab point and drag it at 45 deg. towards the opposite corner and let go. The picture will shrink. Repeat until you have the size you want. With a little practice, you can make all your photos the with of the message without extensive photoshop work.This will leave the memory large- send one photo at a time. 2. Use photoshop. If you want your original photo for records, save the photo as that name (or the name you want for the fly) + 'A' letter, denoting a revision to the original. Use the 'resize' tool to resize the photo and save it. Now inset that one and check if you got the correct size.email size will be smaller 3. Reset your camera photo format in the menu function to take smaller photographs.email size will be smaller DonO - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:36 PM Subject: [VFB] another try still trying.lemme know Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.BR _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
J.B., i don't like to give half ass attention to anything. That's why i keep my puter upstairs. When i tye, that's IT! i use to watch T.V. and practice (guitar) at the same time for many years...but, something always suffered. Only thing that was really good for was keepin' my fingers loose. i played guitar for bout 10 yearsafter starting on fluteaphone, then going to clarinet, then to drums, then guitar and harmonica and percussion all throughout. Early on in there, i became an audio engineer and did that professionally for 30 years, all over the world. In a perfect world, all musicians would know audio, (EQ, Busing, Signal routing, Gain, Proximity effect, proper mic placement, microphones, effects, etc., etc.), and all engineers would paly an instrument...but it aint a perfect world. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:53 -0600 It is if you’re tying @ the same timeJ Or playing guitar… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:37 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large that was the problem Jeff...i was such a Sports junkie.i hadda DO somethin' about itso i cut it out in '98 and we aint had t.v. since...i'd sit and watch 5 football games back to back...no problem.but that aint productive Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:25:45 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com My quality of life would stink without TV. I have got to have my ball games. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 10:24:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large i'd slit my throat before i'd EVER go back to dial-up..we get our internet from the cable t.v. people.but we have no t.v..no cable t.v. feed i mean or satalite.got 4 t.v.'s but only for VHS or DVD's. Regular t.v. aint worth what it cost...and waste your time. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:21 -0600 Mark: You downsized that last pic right??? It was only 240 KB.. It opened on a full screen fine, and wouldn't shut somebody down who might be on dialup either. And yeah, it sucks that I finally had to shell out $500 for Hughes Net equipment (and now pay $80 a month) for something that is 'semi high speed. But get this. I'm moving eight miles farther into the sticks and where I'm moving has real high speed through the phone company, but where I'm at now (eight miles CLOSER to town) still only offers 56K (with an actual connection rate of 45.2Kbps through the SAME phone company. Go figger LOL, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Chuck, messed up may have been the wrong terminalogy.i just meant, that if it works fine for most.then it must be ok. i'm no puter wiz by a long shot. Misa on the other hand.she knows puters inside and out, backwards and forward, from the side, up over and above, and from down underneath. i'll have her hip me to resizing. i've done it a few times.so it won't be nothin' to get the hang of again. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:07:36 -0600 You and Jim must have YOUR settings set to fit to screen on photos. FACT is, they are 2 megs and larger. Do ya'll think Tony's settings are messed up too??? Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large it HAS to be on their end Jim, or i'd have the same problem, as would you, and everyone else. Thing is, i Was resizeing til i found out it wasn't nessessaryand ANYTHING TO SAVE TIMEbut, i spose i could do it for those that have messed up systems. Aint no biggiei'll try to remember... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:56:35 -0800 Mark I have
[VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Bluegill Fishing in Wintertime
M From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Bluegill Fishing in Wintertime Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:32:41 -0600 The Bohunks in Minnesota drink blackberry brandyJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:32 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Bluegill Fishing in Wintertime you funny Chuck.but you left out the part where you take a hit off the Cognac bottle. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Bluegill Fishing in Wintertime Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:14:35 -0600 Maybe I should have phrased this question as if your wintertime bluegill fishing secrets start out as crank auger, then drill hole through ice ROFL, then nevermind, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Bluegill Fishing in Wintertime For those of you who bluegill fish in the winter months, would you care to share any of your secrets with us??? Only secrets i have is to use a VERY SLOW presentation and fish them in a little deeper water than normal, but outside of that, I don't know a whole lot about it which is sad cause I'm trying to write a chapter in my book about fishing them in Winter. Thanks, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.71/2510 - Release Date: 11/17/09 19:26:00 _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: More DVD, payments received, notes, etc.
So Don.does this mean we don't have to pay for shipping and handling now.if we go directly through you and NOT the fly shop? OK! i got the code. DORDES99 .you can send the email address to use Pay Pal with to me at markflie...@hotmail.com Domoarigato. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:22:28 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: More DVD, payments received, notes, etc. From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Don, I sent mine snail mail or was that seagull mail - whichever, it left on Monday. Mike On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: Guys/Gals, This is one huge learning experience. Purchases from me directly: (preferred for now- 1st 100 or until further notice) I signed up with Paypal, so you can use my Paypal account to buy the VFB discount DVD with the $5 SH fee. ($34.95) You will need my Paypal account, so email me for it OFF LIST. Takes up to two weeks to get a check from them. PayPal is good as I don't need to clear the checks and can send out DVD right away. Or... Mail me a check or money order, etc. Purchases from Fly Shop: (see the ad- kool) You can find my DVD at http://www.wyomingflyfishing.com/Rope-Dubbing-With-Don-Ordes-P2290C252.aspx Coupon code for $10 off for VFB members ONLY is: DORDES99 Discount will end at DVD #100. Email me to let me know your using the Fly Shop to order the DVD. His SH fee is $9, ( I can't change that- programmed in) , BUT... if you order anything else and get the price to $50, the shipping within the USA is FREE. ( i.e. $15 worth extra stuff= $10 outlay = good deal.) NOTES: I've got 7 payments so far, have the DVDs ready, and will be mailing them out this afternoon. Please send me an email OFF LIST to let me know if you are using the fly shop. I need to have your DVD with ser.# ready for mailing. Payments received via snail-mail so far: (if you sent yours and it's not here, send me an email.) Larry J Tony S Alan Di S Jimi G Henry O Gary W Chuck C. Had a little glitch with the DVDs, got it solved, so we're good to go. If you have any problems with viewing the DVD and the quality, try another player. If it's the DVD, send it back and I'll replace it free of charge. Seems the DVD manufacturers have backed off on DVD QC to save $$ in these tough times. Don't let the focus throw you. The Video Theater camera at the shows has the same problems, trying to macro and yet have different items to focus on within instants. We tried over and over, but the ties were just faster than the camera could re-focus, especially when my big paw got in the way. We did lots of multiple camera angles to help out with tthis. The end products are very visable. My daughter-in-law is a bank officer, so I talked with her about payments and funds. Seems if I get a check returned for insufficient funds, I lose the check amount plus a $3.50 fee, even though it wasn't my fault. So please, if you send me a check, make sure that it will clear. I know how tough times are- as I'm running on savings also. Moving on down the road... make that 'river'... DonO -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: More DVD, payments received, notes, etc.
ooppss, sorry.i c we still need to pay SH...oh well.lol. ok, send Pay Pal email..tkx. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] More DVD, payments received, notes, etc. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:23:44 -0700 Guys/Gals, This is one huge learning experience. Purchases from me directly: (preferred for now- 1st 100 or until further notice) I signed up with Paypal, so you can use my Paypal account to buy the VFB discount DVD with the $5 SH fee. ($34.95) You will need my Paypal account, so email me for it OFF LIST. Takes up to two weeks to get a check from them. PayPal is good as I don't need to clear the checks and can send out DVD right away. Or... Mail me a check or money order, etc. Purchases from Fly Shop: (see the ad- kool) You can find my DVD at http://www.wyomingflyfishing.com/Rope-Dubbing-With-Don-Ordes-P2290C252.aspx Coupon code for $10 off for VFB members ONLY is: DORDES99 Discount will end at DVD #100. Email me to let me know your using the Fly Shop to order the DVD. His SH fee is $9, ( I can't change that- programmed in) , BUT... if you order anything else and get the price to $50, the shipping within the USA is FREE. ( i.e. $15 worth extra stuff= $10 outlay = good deal.) NOTES: I've got 7 payments so far, have the DVDs ready, and will be mailing them out this afternoon. Please send me an email OFF LIST to let me know if you are using the fly shop. I need to have your DVD with ser.# ready for mailing. Payments received via snail-mail so far: (if you sent yours and it's not here, send me an email.) Larry J Tony S Alan Di S Jimi G Henry O Gary W Chuck C. Had a little glitch with the DVDs, got it solved, so we're good to go. If you have any problems with viewing the DVD and the quality, try another player. If it's the DVD, send it back and I'll replace it free of charge. Seems the DVD manufacturers have backed off on DVD QC to save $$ in these tough times. Don't let the focus throw you. The Video Theater camera at the shows has the same problems, trying to macro and yet have different items to focus on within instants. We tried over and over, but the ties were just faster than the camera could re-focus, especially when my big paw got in the way. We did lots of multiple camera angles to help out with tthis. The end products are very visable. My daughter-in-law is a bank officer, so I talked with her about payments and funds. Seems if I get a check returned for insufficient funds, I lose the check amount plus a $3.50 fee, even though it wasn't my fault. So please, if you send me a check, make sure that it will clear. I know how tough times are- as I'm running on savings also. Moving on down the road... make that 'river'... DonO _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: how's the size
no kiddin'.double click on the X and hit show pic.?.thass a new one on metried it, on the little red X in This mail..didn't work. oh well.np.they come back to me just fine anyway.thankx for all your effort Jimbo. Maybe you can help some others fix their puters. You seem to know a lot bout puters. From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: how's the size Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:55:36 -0800 It's your fly Usually Double click on the red x and hit show picture. Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: how's the size Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:44:21 -0700 that didn't open for me Jimbo. just got that little red X in the square... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: how's the size Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:37:33 -0800 This is how they ALL have been coming in to me. May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] how's the size Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:27:49 -0700 is this one sized right? Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. /html /html /html _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Patrick.....
sorry buddie, but i just can't find time to do the flies for your swap.just to much goin' on..i have bout half of them finished...but i can tell the material i'm usin' just isn't gonna last to get them all completed.so i'd have to start all over again.i'll send you some flies for yourself though. email your address again off listtkx., mark _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:14:31 -0600 Just because I multi-task doesn’t mean I’m giving half assed attention, all it means is I’m splitting it as neededJ I can also walk chew gum @ the same time… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:03 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large J.B., i don't like to give half ass attention to anything. That's why i keep my puter upstairs. When i tye, that's IT! i use to watch T.V. and practice (guitar) at the same time for many years...but, something always suffered. Only thing that was really good for was keepin' my fingers loose. i played guitar for bout 10 yearsafter starting on fluteaphone, then going to clarinet, then to drums, then guitar and harmonica and percussion all throughout. Early on in there, i became an audio engineer and did that professionally for 30 years, all over the world. In a perfect world, all musicians would know audio, (EQ, Busing, Signal routing, Gain, Proximity effect, proper mic placement, microphones, effects, etc., etc.), and all engineers would paly an instrument...but it aint a perfect world. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:53 -0600 It is if you’re tying @ the same timeJ Or playing guitar… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:37 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large that was the problem Jeff...i was such a Sports junkie.i hadda DO somethin' about itso i cut it out in '98 and we aint had t.v. since...i'd sit and watch 5 football games back to back...no problem.but that aint productive Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:25:45 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com My quality of life would stink without TV. I have got to have my ball games. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 10:24:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large i'd slit my throat before i'd EVER go back to dial-up..we get our internet from the cable t.v. people.but we have no t.v..no cable t.v. feed i mean or satalite.got 4 t.v.'s but only for VHS or DVD's. Regular t.v. aint worth what it cost...and waste your time. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:21 -0600 Mark: You downsized that last pic right??? It was only 240 KB.. It opened on a full screen fine, and wouldn't shut somebody down who might be on dialup either. And yeah, it sucks that I finally had to shell out $500 for Hughes Net equipment (and now pay $80 a month) for something that is 'semi high speed. But get this. I'm moving eight miles farther into the sticks and where I'm moving has real high speed through the phone company, but where I'm at now (eight miles CLOSER to town) still only offers 56K (with an actual connection rate of 45.2Kbps through the SAME phone company. Go figger LOL, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Chuck, messed up may have been the wrong terminalogy.i just meant, that if it works fine for most.then it must be ok. i'm no puter wiz by a long shot. Misa on the other hand.she knows puters inside and out, backwards and forward, from the side, up over and above, and from down underneath. i'll have her hip me to resizing. i've done it a few times.so it won't be nothin' to get the hang of again. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:07:36 -0600 You and Jim must have YOUR settings set to fit to screen on photos. FACT is, they are 2 megs and larger. Do ya'll think Tony's settings are messed up too??? Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: [VFB] Re
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
lol, J.B. that was not an insinuation.i was only refering to myselfsome people are great at splitting their attention.i can smoke a cigerrett and drive at the same time too...but when it comes to tying...i have to give it all my attention to get a half way decent job done. Thass all...no offense meant. p.s. i just got home from the post officethe Reinhold came in the mail today. and it's a Gold Lable.for some reason i was under the impression it was a Traditional.WOW! He also threw in a Partridge with the gut already on it. First guy to lemme know he wants it, get's it. If there's anyone interested in tryin' to tye on one, or needs it. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:14:31 -0600 Just because I multi-task doesn’t mean I’m giving half assed attention, all it means is I’m splitting it as neededJ I can also walk chew gum @ the same time… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:03 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large J.B., i don't like to give half ass attention to anything. That's why i keep my puter upstairs. When i tye, that's IT! i use to watch T.V. and practice (guitar) at the same time for many years...but, something always suffered. Only thing that was really good for was keepin' my fingers loose. i played guitar for bout 10 yearsafter starting on fluteaphone, then going to clarinet, then to drums, then guitar and harmonica and percussion all throughout. Early on in there, i became an audio engineer and did that professionally for 30 years, all over the world. In a perfect world, all musicians would know audio, (EQ, Busing, Signal routing, Gain, Proximity effect, proper mic placement, microphones, effects, etc., etc.), and all engineers would paly an instrument...but it aint a perfect world. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:33:53 -0600 It is if you’re tying @ the same timeJ Or playing guitar… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:37 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large that was the problem Jeff...i was such a Sports junkie.i hadda DO somethin' about itso i cut it out in '98 and we aint had t.v. since...i'd sit and watch 5 football games back to back...no problem.but that aint productive Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:25:45 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com My quality of life would stink without TV. I have got to have my ball games. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 10:24:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large i'd slit my throat before i'd EVER go back to dial-up..we get our internet from the cable t.v. people.but we have no t.v..no cable t.v. feed i mean or satalite.got 4 t.v.'s but only for VHS or DVD's. Regular t.v. aint worth what it cost...and waste your time. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:21 -0600 Mark: You downsized that last pic right??? It was only 240 KB.. It opened on a full screen fine, and wouldn't shut somebody down who might be on dialup either. And yeah, it sucks that I finally had to shell out $500 for Hughes Net equipment (and now pay $80 a month) for something that is 'semi high speed. But get this. I'm moving eight miles farther into the sticks and where I'm moving has real high speed through the phone company, but where I'm at now (eight miles CLOSER to town) still only offers 56K (with an actual connection rate of 45.2Kbps through the SAME phone company. Go figger LOL, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Chuck, messed up may have been the wrong terminalogy.i just meant, that if it works fine for most.then it must be ok. i'm no puter wiz by a long shot. Misa on the other hand.she knows puters inside and out, backwards and forward, from the side, up over and above, and from down underneath. i'll have her hip me to resizing
[VFB] Re: lol how's this
Thankx for lettin' me know Gary.seems most of the older pics i took were resized in the original storage process..and then i must of forgot a step or two in that process...sorry bout that. Misa will show me how again.i won't post any more pics til she does. Right now i gotta load the truck for an NAFF fishing outting tomorrow...we've never fished the Spring River before and are quite excited. We had three new members join the club and Misa is gonna help this lady who's only fished once before. We gotta bring extra gear and tackle for her. She has nothing. From: aflyt...@comcast.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: lol how's this Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:20:01 -0500 much better gary s - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 1:31 AM Subject: [VFB] lol how's this i think this is the one i meant to send, lol.tyed a year or more ago.it's called African Pig Skin. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Shrimp
a bit of a shrimp pattern, with the bead way up front. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Catskill Dry Swap Update
Peg, i expect a kiss for being the first one to get his flies in. The extra two in there are for you. And those hooks i put in there are special Japanese dry fly/emerger Umbrella, Elephant Proof hooks. The entire body, wing, etc. is tyed on that little straight area right behind the eye.the rest falls down into the film and (OOPPSS!! says the fish).you dig? They're very cool hooks, and you should see the flies tyed on them...i have some finished flies tyed on them, by some Japanese heavyweights. Come over and see 'em next time. i figgered you'd like a few to see what they're bout. They come in small (#20,#18,16) medium (#16,#14,#12) and large (#12,#10,#8).just three sizes to cover that range. Have fun. btw, it's Conover, not Condor Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:56:06 -0500 Subject: [VFB] Catskill Dry Swap Update From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com The first set of flies arrived over the weekend. And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous Catskill Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till December . And to keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small dries, 16 and under, all levels of tyers. 1 Peggy B Condor 2 Neville Gosling 3 George Vincent 4 Michael Bliss 5 Robert Laubengayer 6 Hans Weilenmann 7 Dan Gober 8 Alan Di Somma 9 Mark Romero-Condor - arrived! 10 Curtiss Watts 11 Martin Westbeek 12 Jim Hodson This is the final list, Flies due December 31: Mail to Peggy Brenner, 266 N River Rd, Milford, NH 03055 and include a return envelope and postage. Many thanks for taking part. -- Peggy Brenner _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: ebay
Mike, the auction ended bout an hour ago.it went for thr $61.80 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:26:56 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: ebay From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Can't find the hook Mark On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Peggy Brenner ladyflyt...@gmail.com wrote: Deb is a big collector of old hooks and ebay... On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: There's a Ron Reinhold 5/0 Emerald Isle Gold Lable on ebay right now and the bidding is at $61.80 I've never seen a 5/0 go that high before. Amazing. Really makes you wonder who's after it, lol. i have a couple Emerald Isles that are bigger.i got 2 years ago. i think i paid $40 each. So i'm gonna pass.but it's torture. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Peggy Brenner -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] FFF Washington
Don, folks, i've been asked to let any of you know, (actually the way it was worded is, who would be a benifit to the show), who might wanna tye at the FFF Washington State Council Conclave, (technically called, the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair) in Ellensburg, Washington April 30th and May 1st.that they are accepting reccommended tyers. So, if you want me to put your name in...just lemme know. And you'll recieve an invite. This year back in May was our first time to do it, and it was a terrific show. They treated us great. The had a dinner for us one night, and helped with loading in and out, and made sure we had water at all times, and they had a special rate at the hotel, and thanked us like crazy and were just super nice. And, a TERRIFIC river, (the Yakimaw) goes right through town. The Yak is LOADED with Bows, Cutts, Cuttbows and Brookies in the upper stretches. ALL fish are Wild.obviously the Brookies are not Native, but they are wild. The river is incredable, we floated it the day after the show and caught all Bows. The show will be in it's 4th year next year, and there are many good reason to go, not the least of all is this one guy who comes with alll kinna pheasent skins, etc., etc. for sale. It's not every day you can score like you can from this guyBlue Eared, Amgold, Silver, Trags, Revees, Chuckers, Quails, etc., etc., etc.and very fair prices. Anyway.think about it. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: AW: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
i had no idea Thomas.you guys shoulda told me sooner...i'll downsize 'em... From: royalcoach...@bluewin.ch To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:23:31 +0100 think about that:: to downsize pictures takes 20“ for one Person (the Sender) – to look at these Monster Poster sized Fly Pictures takes the time of all the recipients and makes them the pain in the ass. Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von chuckalexan...@hughes.net Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 22:59 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Thing is though, you can downsize a pic in 30 seconds, and that way the ppl looking at the pic don't have to scroll back and forth, right and left to see the pic of the flies, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:49 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large yeah, i know.at least to some degree that's the problem..but hell, if i can get to where one GOOD pic is all i need, then that won't be a problem...not to mention down-sizing is just one more thing that takes time and makes the whole process just that much more time consumming and a pain in the ass. tye the fly.take the pic.etc., etc., etc., etc.,..by the time your getting some feedback..jesus h., you've got How much time investedlmao. i know, i know...bithc bitch bitch.lol. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:40:58 -0600 Mark: The emails are over weight cause you need to size down the pics LOL. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: [VFB] RE: Google Groups: The message is too large i originally sent 4 different pics of the same fly in this email.then i got a message from google that the email was overweight, lol...so here it is again with just two pics..the other two will followonly reason i'm sending all four, is because none of 'em are that good, lmao. tried a few things with taken the pic(s) of this flynone of 'em worked that well.oh well. Hook: Red Ronn Lucas Sr. Noble D 6/0 Trailer is a Red Gamakatsu Octapus.size 2 maybe (?) Thread: most likely Danville 6/0 Primrose.(fly is a few months old) Tag: some kinna red tinsel/or braid Tail. dyed Red Goose, veiled with Blue Peacock neck feather barbs Butt: Blue Ostrich herl Rear Body: Red, White and Blue bead by Janet Thompson Center Body: Red SLF Forward Body: some Blue Dubbing of some sort Ribbing: some flashy Blue Braid Wing: Red, White and Blue PB Throat: Blue Peacock neck feathers Collar(s): dyed Red hen, actually Silver Laced Whyendott over White Rooster Head Eye: dyed Blue Red Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR /HTMLBR _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
it HAS to be on their end Jim, or i'd have the same problem, as would you, and everyone else. Thing is, i Was resizeing til i found out it wasn't nessessaryand ANYTHING TO SAVE TIMEbut, i spose i could do it for those that have messed up systems. Aint no biggiei'll try to remember... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:56:35 -0800 Mark I have NO PROBLEM. I agree that their settings MAY be off. May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:37:43 -0700 actually i think my monitor is 17 or 19 inches...standard laptop...puter is a Dell Inspiron 1721 From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:22:48 -0600 You must have a 42 inch monitor LOL, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large dang, i didn't realize that was happeningthey don't make me do that when i go see my Sent email. i check every enail i send to make sure it's correct. pics are always cool. maybe it's on your end. Cause they come back into my sent box and return VFB inbox fine. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:59:04 -0600 Thing is though, you can downsize a pic in 30 seconds, and that way the ppl looking at the pic don't have to scroll back and forth, right and left to see the pic of the flies, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:49 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large yeah, i know.at least to some degree that's the problem..but hell, if i can get to where one GOOD pic is all i need, then that won't be a problem...not to mention down-sizing is just one more thing that takes time and makes the whole process just that much more time consumming and a pain in the ass. tye the fly.take the pic.etc., etc., etc., etc.,..by the time your getting some feedback..jesus h., you've got How much time investedlmao. i know, i know...bithc bitch bitch.lol. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:40:58 -0600 Mark: The emails are over weight cause you need to size down the pics LOL. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: [VFB] RE: Google Groups: The message is too large i originally sent 4 different pics of the same fly in this email.then i got a message from google that the email was overweight, lol...so here it is again with just two pics..the other two will followonly reason i'm sending all four, is because none of 'em are that good, lmao. tried a few things with taken the pic(s) of this flynone of 'em worked that well.oh well. Hook: Red Ronn Lucas Sr. Noble D 6/0 Trailer is a Red Gamakatsu Octapus.size 2 maybe (?) Thread: most likely Danville 6/0 Primrose.(fly is a few months old) Tag: some kinna red tinsel/or braid Tail. dyed Red Goose, veiled with Blue Peacock neck feather barbs Butt: Blue Ostrich herl Rear Body: Red, White and Blue bead by Janet Thompson Center Body: Red SLF Forward Body: some Blue Dubbing of some sort Ribbing: some flashy Blue Braid Wing: Red, White and Blue PB Throat: Blue Peacock neck feathers Collar(s): dyed Red hen, actually Silver Laced Whyendott over White Rooster Head Eye: dyed Blue Red Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR /HTMLBR /HTMLBR /html /html _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
DIAL-UP!? holy cow...this is the 21st cewntury...lol. ok, i'll try to remember we had dinner on the stove, but it was 5:38 p.m. and somehow we had mistakenly thought the meeting was at 6 p.m. so we get there and we're an hour early, lmao. we just now got home and ate the dinner we left on the stove.rotf. meeting went great thoughmeeting went great...program.now that's another story...LMAO! like nothin' i've ever seen at a fly fishin' club meetin'. a slide show all bout the different ways bait fisherman cheat/violate the regs. ...lmao. after i fell asleep 3/4 times, Misa says let's go home and have dinner. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:03:00 -0600 Well, thing is. Some ppl here are probably still on Dial up, and big pics sometimes shut them down completely, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Thomas Eckert To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large think about that:: to downsize pictures takes 20“ for one Person (the Sender) – to look at these Monster Poster sized Fly Pictures takes the time of all the recipients and makes them the pain in the ass. Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von chuckalexan...@hughes.net Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 22:59 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Thing is though, you can downsize a pic in 30 seconds, and that way the ppl looking at the pic don't have to scroll back and forth, right and left to see the pic of the flies, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:49 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large yeah, i know.at least to some degree that's the problem..but hell, if i can get to where one GOOD pic is all i need, then that won't be a problem...not to mention down-sizing is just one more thing that takes time and makes the whole process just that much more time consumming and a pain in the ass. tye the fly.take the pic.etc., etc., etc., etc.,..by the time your getting some feedback..jesus h., you've got How much time investedlmao. i know, i know...bithc bitch bitch.lol. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:40:58 -0600 Mark: The emails are over weight cause you need to size down the pics LOL. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: [VFB] RE: Google Groups: The message is too large i originally sent 4 different pics of the same fly in this email.then i got a message from google that the email was overweight, lol...so here it is again with just two pics..the other two will followonly reason i'm sending all four, is because none of 'em are that good, lmao. tried a few things with taken the pic(s) of this flynone of 'em worked that well.oh well. Hook: Red Ronn Lucas Sr. Noble D 6/0 Trailer is a Red Gamakatsu Octapus.size 2 maybe (?) Thread: most likely Danville 6/0 Primrose.(fly is a few months old) Tag: some kinna red tinsel/or braid Tail. dyed Red Goose, veiled with Blue Peacock neck feather barbs Butt: Blue Ostrich herl Rear Body: Red, White and Blue bead by Janet Thompson Center Body: Red SLF Forward Body: some Blue Dubbing of some sort Ribbing: some flashy Blue Braid Wing: Red, White and Blue PB Throat: Blue Peacock neck feathers Collar(s): dyed Red hen, actually Silver Laced Whyendott over White Rooster Head Eye: dyed Blue Red Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR /HTMLBR BR _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received
[VFB] Re: Christmas Fly Swap
Some really nice flies there Iaini tried to post a commenttalkin' bout what nice flies and how Joyces fly would prolly work real well during an Isonychia hatchbut you gotta be a photobucket member to post comments. Oh well. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Christmas Fly Swap Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:58:54 + Christmas Fly Swap 1. You only tie one fly and send me the digital photo of it. 2. Enclose tying instructions and Christmas message to the rest of VFB if you like. 3. I have put photos on both my photobucket and flickr photo sites in dedicated Christmas fly swap albums, the web addresses are below so everyone can see the flies. http://www.flickr.com/photos/82854...@n00/sets/72157622744142158/ http://s668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/bigyin1961/Christmas%20Fly%20Swap/ Any fly as long as you can photograph it but must contain Deer Hair or Big Horn Sheep. Christmas colours would be nice but not compulsory No money, No posting flies, Just tie one and Email the photo with tying instructions to me. There is no limit to the number of entrants to this swap as you only have to tie one fly and email the photo to me. 1. Rene Zillmann - ? ? ? Photo Posted 2. Jimmy Moore - Thor Photo Posted 3. Walter Shockley - 4. Jerry McKaughan - Tapps Bug Photo Posted 5. Joyce Westphal - Santa's Shaving Brush Photo Posted 6. Alan Fish - Everett Drake Minnow - 7. Ashley Strutt -? ? ?Photo Posted 8. Mark Romero - Denver Bronco Photo Posted 9. Bob Haering - 10. George Vincent - Steelhead Candy CanePhoto Posted 11. Kieth Passant - 12. Alan Fish 13. Iain Short - Keyser Findhorn Photo Posted 14. Chuck Alexander 15. 16. 17. 18. Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
that was the problem Jeff...i was such a Sports junkie.i hadda DO somethin' about itso i cut it out in '98 and we aint had t.v. since...i'd sit and watch 5 football games back to back...no problem.but that aint productive Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:25:45 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com My quality of life would stink without TV. I have got to have my ball games. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 10:24:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large i'd slit my throat before i'd EVER go back to dial-up..we get our internet from the cable t.v. people.but we have no t.v..no cable t.v. feed i mean or satalite.got 4 t.v.'s but only for VHS or DVD's. Regular t.v. aint worth what it cost...and waste your time. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:52:21 -0600 Mark: You downsized that last pic right??? It was only 240 KB.. It opened on a full screen fine, and wouldn't shut somebody down who might be on dialup either. And yeah, it sucks that I finally had to shell out $500 for Hughes Net equipment (and now pay $80 a month) for something that is 'semi high speed. But get this. I'm moving eight miles farther into the sticks and where I'm moving has real high speed through the phone company, but where I'm at now (eight miles CLOSER to town) still only offers 56K (with an actual connection rate of 45.2Kbps through the SAME phone company. Go figger LOL, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Chuck, messed up may have been the wrong terminalogy.i just meant, that if it works fine for most.then it must be ok. i'm no puter wiz by a long shot. Misa on the other hand.she knows puters inside and out, backwards and forward, from the side, up over and above, and from down underneath. i'll have her hip me to resizing. i've done it a few times.so it won't be nothin' to get the hang of again. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:07:36 -0600 You and Jim must have YOUR settings set to fit to screen on photos. FACT is, they are 2 megs and larger. Do ya'll think Tony's settings are messed up too??? Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large it HAS to be on their end Jim, or i'd have the same problem, as would you, and everyone else. Thing is, i Was resizeing til i found out it wasn't nessessaryand ANYTHING TO SAVE TIMEbut, i spose i could do it for those that have messed up systems. Aint no biggiei'll try to remember... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:56:35 -0800 Mark I have NO PROBLEM. I agree that their settings MAY be off. May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:37:43 -0700 actually i think my monitor is 17 or 19 inches...standard laptop...puter is a Dell Inspiron 1721 From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:22:48 -0600 You must have a 42 inch monitor LOL, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large dang, i didn't realize that was happeningthey don't make me do that when i go see my Sent email. i check every enail i send to make sure it's correct. pics are always cool. maybe it's on your end. Cause they come back into my sent box and return VFB inbox fine. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail
[VFB] Re: last night
Nothin' wrong with your eyes.plenty wrong with mine. i'm workin' on it. Don't know if i have photoshop or not.? Got paint. and Misa knows how to use it, lmao. check back in a year.i'll have it together. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: last night Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:25:11 -0700 Mark, either my eyes are shot or your camera skills need honing Fo-kus!!! Don't use macro. Use normal, back up, and zoom in a little. That will add depth to the field of view, then you can crop and resize in photoshop. = Same final picture, but in focus front to back. Do you have a photoshop program? Buggs - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:51 AM Subject: [VFB] last night Here's the one i did last night with the CDC over top of the Fin Racoon gaurd hairs, and the MoHair underneath both. Pics suck.i just couldn't get it right. That bead was given to me by a friend in Texas.wife of the president of the Red River Fly Fishers. We stay at eachothers houses during their show over there, the Texoma Tye-In and if we're to tired to make it all the way to the Fly Fish Texas gig without sleepin' somewhere, and vice-versa during Sowbug the the FFF S.C.C. It's nice to be able to save eachother hotel. Anyway, a funny thing happen tonight, which started last night. This fly here has only one hackle in the collar, and it's off a Saltwater cape, dark greenbut it was sposed to have two hackles, the one it has and another light green dyed Grizzley saddle feather in front of the dark green feather..but, ahi kinna ran outta room.h, don't tell nobody. So the feather that never got wraped is just layin' there tonight, and at one point, i decide to use it. I'll post that fly later. But what happened after i DID use it, on tonights fly, is Something Else. It led to something i had not planned and didn't expect and it was FUN! i'll fill you in more, when i post the flyagain, the head still needs at least another coat. These pics here are so horrible.but it's no biggie. Btw, i chopped a fly tonight.actually a fly that was maybe half finished and had been layin' around for 2 years. Never did like what was goin' on with it...and it was on a really good and big hook.so i finally cut everything off and now i can use that hook all over again. And maybe this time not screw everything all up. lol.. Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more.BR _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: eyes
Thank you very much Iain.can you PLEASE put that on my site. Right where the other bit you put is. THANKX! mark From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: eyes Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:22:25 + same as a furled leader, but simpler. put a nail in a bench and a cuphook in a battery drill tie end of thread onto cup hook wind thread around nail and cuphook about 5 foot apart as many turns as you require to give 50% of the finished diameter (it will eventually be doubled) tie off thread onto cuphook and adjust so all threads are even tension, keeping gentle tension wind clockwise till length reduces by 10%. (keep a note of the time it takes) get an assistant to help keep tension as you fold in half and transfer ends from nail onto cuphook as well. with assistant keeping tension wind anti clockwise for half the previous time you should now have 2.5 feet of stable eye braid. use a pair of hackle pliers to stop loose end unraveling as you cut pieces off. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] eyes Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:03:30 -0700 Iain.you know you could use al kinds of color combinations and get lots of different effects. It's a great ideaso you have a furling machine/unit? Or do you just twist it by hand? Tkx., mark. Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Show tying and sales
We're skippin it too Don.gotta be in Washington state in very late April for the FFF Washington Council Conclave, after we get done with the Idaho Falls show earlier in April after we get done with Toronto very early April. So two trips to the west coast in two months is just to much. We're goin' to B.C. Canada after Washinton State and then we gotta drive all the way back to Roscoe so Misa can get her flight to Poland...and then we go to Ireland.then come back and go to Montana. Just impossible to do them all.ware's you out and it cost to much. Plus i been through 5 trucks in 8 years, lmao. i get your point though.after a certain point in time.a freebie bag of materials is not quite the incentive you need anymore, LMAO! From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Show tying and sales Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:42:43 -0700 Mark et al, Got my invite again to tie at the Oregon Council FFF conclave. As in the past for this show, there's a specific, hilited note in the invite letter that tiers are forbidden to sell materials or fly-fishing related items at their tying tables. If you want to sell such items get in touch with so-and-so for information on booth space. No mention of ANY accomodations or assistance for travelling tiers- no block of rooms reserved (BTW, no expense to council- only motels), no free lunches or tier coffee-stand, no comp. banquet tickets, and shirts are $35. each. How do I say this...nah! I'm surprised that they aren't charging the tiers the door entry-fee. The do come around asking for free flies for show-plate auctions, tho. My motto now: If I have to pay, I go to play. If I'm going to drop a couple grand to head that way, I'm going fishing and will pop in at the show once or twice, pay the door fee, cruise the isles, and say hi to those I know. Guess I won't be making this show. Rather go fishing in Baja. DonO _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] check it out
try this sitei just found itsposed to have some cool step by step fly tyin' tutorialsor whatever. i haven't looked yet.you have to register your email and the like to gain access...i'm gonna check it out. http://www.nsfa-adventures.com/STEP_BY_STEP_FLIES.htm _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] YES!
your gonna like that site..TONS of info on SCADS of patterns...check out the lake Trout patterns. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: news
Rick, rough out here.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:37:27 -0500
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
From: afi...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [VFB] news
Rick,
That's gonna force me to drive 50 miles (round trip) to my local fly shop to
pick up a copy.
a.
Must be as I had a copy sent from Des Moines.
Rick
From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com
To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:07:59 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: news
Rick, fly fish america is a regional mag. They put out 4/5 different versions
for different parts of the country. i take it your refering to a midwest
version?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:13:14 -0800
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] news
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com;
flytyingandfish...@yahoo.com
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Computyer at home is on the frits. will need a guru to fix it.
Vitural memory is gone.
Have to brag. I have a pteren in the latest Fly Fish America.
Rick
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[VFB] Re: news
ooppss...sorry bout that Rick...lmao...that was for
Allanlmao.lmao.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:37:27 -0500
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
From: afi...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [VFB] news
Rick,
That's gonna force me to drive 50 miles (round trip) to my local fly shop to
pick up a copy.
a.
Must be as I had a copy sent from Des Moines.
Rick
From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com
To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:07:59 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: news
Rick, fly fish america is a regional mag. They put out 4/5 different versions
for different parts of the country. i take it your refering to a midwest
version?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:13:14 -0800
From: rdzieg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] news
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com;
flytyingandfish...@yahoo.com
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Computyer at home is on the frits. will need a guru to fix it.
Vitural memory is gone.
Have to brag. I have a pteren in the latest Fly Fish America.
Rick
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Greenwood, IN
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[VFB] Re: It's Summertime in Dixie LOL
From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: It's Summertime in Dixie LOL Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:52:23 -0600 Well, he's 18. But the thing was on it's way out anyway, so it really wasn't his fault. this time, LOL. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: It's Summertime in Dixie LOL does the word Grounded ring a bell...or is he to old for that.lmao.lol. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [VFB] It's Summertime in Dixie LOL Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:40:51 -0600 Folks: I guess it's still Summertime in Dixie LOL. It was sunny and 83 degrees today. Course it's just my luck that the clutch went out in my truck this morning when my son was hot rodding, er I mean driving it back from town this morning and my wife needed the van. So, I couldn't go fishing today and take advantage of this weather.. Oh well, maybe next time, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ /HTMLBR _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Show tying and sales
OF COURSE THEY DO Chuckjust like a politician realizes some people actually votelmao From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:09 -0600 Don: Don't those ppl realize that without tiers there would be NO show??? Geez, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] Show tying and sales Mark et al, Got my invite again to tie at the Oregon Council FFF conclave. As in the past for this show, there's a specific, hilited note in the invite letter that tiers are forbidden to sell materials or fly-fishing related items at their tying tables. If you want to sell such items get in touch with so-and-so for information on booth space. No mention of ANY accomodations or assistance for travelling tiers- no block of rooms reserved (BTW, no expense to council- only motels), no free lunches or tier coffee-stand, no comp. banquet tickets, and shirts are $35. each. How do I say this...nah! I'm surprised that they aren't charging the tiers the door entry-fee. The do come around asking for free flies for show-plate auctions, tho. My motto now: If I have to pay, I go to play. If I'm going to drop a couple grand to head that way, I'm going fishing and will pop in at the show once or twice, pay the door fee, cruise the isles, and say hi to those I know. Guess I won't be making this show. Rather go fishing in Baja. DonOBR _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Chuck
Chuck.what you need to realize is that every show is different.based on who runs it. You have to do them all to find out which ones your going to want to go back and do again and again. Some are MUCH better than others, based on how you get treated. Are you made to feel welcome and appreciated. Do they thank you for your time and effort. Do they feed you. Do they keep you hydrated during the day. Do they help you if you need it, with load in and load out, etc., etc., etc., etc..all these things play and part in your decision making when deciding wether or not you wanna go back. And then of course there's the expense involved. Bottom line is not all shows have the same standard as to how they treat their guest tyers..MOST are cool. Some got a LONG way to go. Sowbug is one the BEST! So i expect to see you here. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Carnival
Hook: Jens Pilgaard Thread: Danville 6/0 Primrose Tag: Krenick black flash tinsel, and X ribbed with super fine sliver pink Kennick tinsel Tail: four dyed black GP crest Butt: black Ostrich herl Body: UTC Peacock braid Rib: antique vintage orangish/redish/copperish fine oval tinsel Palmered Hackle: that feather from the other night that never got used on the other fly.dyed light bright green Grizzley saddle hackle, which after i had run it up along snug to the ribbing from the thrid turn on, (and there are 6 turns of ribbing), i wraped the rest to begin the collar.maybe 4 turns. Collar: 4 turns of the green saddle hackle and then 4 more feathers from my new Chinese Pond Heron Mount.one dark brown first, then one cream colored, then another dark brown and another cream colored. Head: dyed yellow and blue Eye: dyed blue, red, and green i couldn't find a bead small enough, with a whole big enough, to really work well with this hook, so i just went wiffout.Misa managed to get this pic.mine sucked. The tag and body really look good in hand.difficult to see the work in the pic.but the main thing is the Chinese Pond Heron feathers.i mean in terms of their beautywow, they are incredable..like all Heron feathers they are much stiffer than pheasent feathers and not as unmanageable.pheasent pheathers are fine when that's what you've got.but Heron feathers (jndividual fibers that is), are so much nicer to work with..they stay where you put them much easier. And these particular feathers are some of the smallest on the bird. There are much larger ones. Yes, there is a God. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Show tying and sales
Tony, if i remember right Jeff said you could have a conclave without tyersnot a show. But either one without tyers wouldn't be worth my time and trouble to attendhe's right, you could hold a conclave without tyers.but you'd never get anywhere near as many people to attend. And what's a conclave with out a show anyway.it's the show the drwas the people, and the tyers that make the show..for me anyway. i've been goin' to the shows since '92 and tyin' at them since '97.and i'd never go to a show that didn't have tyers. Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:34:24 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Chuck, At every show that I have been Tying Chairman including Conclaves, I have always made that same announcement, If it were not you tyers, we would not have a show. The Sowbug happens to be a Tying Show the Conclaves a Fund Raising show and the big shows mostly Vendors selling shows. The tying show is for tyers that want to demonstrate their tying methods, strictly voluntary, no one is paid to come. At the Sowbug we do give a free meal to the tyers and spouses. At the smaller tying shows, we have free refreshments. The Conclave is a Fund Raising tyer invited show and a vendor show. There is usually a paid known name celebrity that is paid to attend. This is a drawing card for non tying members. The tyers volunteer their time for the cause of the FFF. We feel that we want to help to have members attend to see us tie. We also try to show new ways of tying some flies. It is also educational, with the classes that are held. The Conclaves that I have attended have always given you at least one Welcoming Party meal The Commercial shows are for Selling We tyers are there for show. I have attended a lot of them and it always cost me more from my pocket than I cared to spend. I never got as much as a sandwich at a commercial show but paid as much as 5.00 for a hot dog. Tony --- On Mon, 11/16/09, chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 2:05 PM Don: Don't those ppl realize that without tiers there would be NO show??? Geez, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: [VFB] Show tying and sales Mark et al, Got my invite again to tie at the Oregon Council FFF conclave. As in the past for this show, there's a specific, hilited note in the invite letter that tiers are forbidden to sell materials or fly-fishing related items at their tying tables. If you want to sell such items get in touch with so-and-so for information on booth space. No mention of ANY accomodations or assistance for travelling tiers- no block of rooms reserved (BTW, no expense to council- only motels), no free lunches or tier coffee-stand, no comp. banquet tickets, and shirts are $35. each. How do I say this...nah! I'm surprised that they aren't charging the tiers the door entry-fee. The do come around asking for free flies for show-plate auctions, tho. My motto now: If I have to pay, I go to play. If I'm going to drop a couple grand to head that way, I'm going fishing and will pop in at the show once or twice, pay the door fee, cruise the isles, and say hi to those I know. Guess I won't be making this show. Rather go fishing in Baja. DonO _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Carnival
Btw, ya wanna know how those black GP feathers got decided...well, i already had the hook in the vise, but i was also choppin' that other fly i told you about..so when i cut those same feather off one hooki just decided, what the hell.save a little time, so i slapped 'em on the new hook i was usin' at the momentreal hard decision, lmao. then i did the butt, then as i was plannin' the body, THAT'S when i decided to use the feather that was just layin' there from a night or two before.and on down the line..that's improvising..ya can't plan this stuff, lol. it's no big deal but the point is.i would NEVER have planned out a color scheme that came out the way it didif things hadn't just went the way they went. And that's what makes it so funyou just roll with the punches as they come. Sometimes you rope a dope, sometimes you float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. Know-what-i-mean? From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Carnival Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:41:26 -0700 lol, forgot to attach the pic.here it is. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: PB wing
Pete, i use to have 2/3 sources.but all but one have dried up. The best one was in Alberta, Canada. http://www.rockymountainflies.com but i think he's outta business now. He had terrific stuff.nice size patches.winter hair which is the Whitest and dyes bestsuper long fibers up to 8 inches, and incredable dye jobs.and his prices were terrific at $5.95 a patch. But he's disappeared.fortunately i bought a lot and still have 2/3rds of it. There a fly shop in New Jersey that use to have it, but they were a totall rip-off, at bout $25 a patch. You prolly know the shop, it's on Rt. 46.somewhere. i never actually went there.i bought it from them once over the phone. But their dye jobs were not the best. And damn.if you gonna rob me, at least point a gun at me. Don't you love it when the theif acts like he's doin' you a favor...course, i coulda said no thanks. lmao...no way Jose'...lol. Frickin' materials junkie. Currently, i dunno what i'd do if a ran out. the next fly i'm gonna post has a PB wing. Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:44:06 -0500 Subject: [VFB] Re: PB wing From: pete.gr...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I'm asking off-list for obvious reasons... but (assuming PB stands for plateaus better than arctic runner), what is your source for PB? -Pete On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: This one has a PB wing.again it's a Lucas Sr. hook, Noble D XXL the tag is wool and it's ribbed with floss..the bead also came from Ronn Lucas..the butt and the LONG throat Spey Style is dyed redish/purpleish peacock herl (beautiful stuff)..i can't remember what the outter (shorter fibered collar is.prolly regular mallard?), but the longer inner one is Egyptian Goose...i've got a gorgeous complete skin of E.G. and the flank feathers are like Giant Wooduck flank feathers.look almost exactly the same only much bigger.PB is highly unruley.but i like the look of it as a wing.and it's done in this case, (for the most part) as a built wing, layered. The forward portion of the body (a bit hard to see in this pic), is just yellow, then orange dubbing, ribbed with something.i can't remember..this fly is now owned by a friend in DesMoines, Iowa. Ya'll know Kevin Slatter. He wanted it.i gave it to him. i don't know why i didn't put a tail on it.lol. Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- attachment: 347.png
[VFB] Re: Show tying and sales
From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:42:27 -0700 Chuck, this was the last year that the FFF Southeast Council will have their annual Conclave in Callaway Gardens, Georgia. It is being moved to a new site about an hour from Atlanta. But if they don't get it together, it wont be any better than it was in Callaway Gardens. We did the show at Callaway Gardens last year.and it was a disaster. Most councils (FFF) do a very good job of putting on a Conclave.some need to start all over from scratch and re-ThinK it through. We've done the Northeast Council Conclave, the Southern Council Conclave, the Southeast Council Conclave, the Gulf Coast Council Conclave, the Oregon Council Conclave, the Washington State Council Conclave, the Great Lakes Council Conclave and the FFF International Conclave. Bottom line is to support the FFF.nothin' goes perfect every time.people screw up.bitchin' for bitchin' sake dosen't help much. Most of the time it's a lack of communication and egos that throw a turd in the soup.what should be done is for survey sheets to be made up and have the councils ask the tyers what they liked and what they didn't. They need feedback to improve their act. But they need to ask for it.because most tyers are so nice and they do not wanna make waves, so they put up with things they shouldn't have to. And just don't bother to go to whomever and let it be know what can be done to improve the situation. Also, the council are ususally not going to incure any over and above expenses they do feel they really need to.air conditioning cost for example. They have a hard enough time finding a decent venue, and then the hotel fairgrounds or whoever it might be, wanna sock it to 'em on top of simply the space itself. So, everyone suffers because the idea is to make money.not spend it. So you end up with doors hanging wide open letting every fly on the planet in, instead of having temp control so everyone can be comfortable and relaxed. Reality is, common sense, aint common. That's peeps, and there aint a GOT DAMN thing you can do about that. if you don't like the way any one particular show is run or the way your treated. Stay home. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:20:49 -0600 Tony: I see. That's always been my feeling too. The Sowbug actually seems to appreciate the tiers who come and tie. I have never been to a single show of ANY kind. I still think that there would be no show without tiers, no matter what type show it is. Unless it was a strictly fly FISHING show. Thanks for the info. I'm gonna look it up and see if there are any shows in say, Birmingham or Atlanta that would be close enough for me to make it pretty easily just to see what I'm missing out on.. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales Chuck, At every show that I have been Tying Chairman including Conclaves, I have always made that same announcement, If it were not you tyers, we would not have a show. The Sowbug happens to be a Tying Show the Conclaves a Fund Raising show and the big shows mostly Vendors selling shows. The tying show is for tyers that want to demonstrate their tying methods, strictly voluntary, no one is paid to come. At the Sowbug we do give a free meal to the tyers and spouses. At the smaller tying shows, we have free refreshments. The Conclave is a Fund Raising tyer invited show and a vendor show. There is usually a paid known name celebrity that is paid to attend. This is a drawing card for non tying members. The tyers volunteer their time for the cause of the FFF. We feel that we want to help to have members attend to see us tie. We also try to show new ways of tying some flies. It is also educational, with the classes that are held. The Conclaves that I have attended have always given you at least one Welcoming Party meal The Commercial shows are for Selling We tyers are there for show. I have attended a lot of them and it always cost me more from my pocket than I cared to spend. I never got as much as a sandwich at a commercial show but paid as much as 5.00 for a hot dog. Tony --- On Mon, 11/16/09, chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 2:05 PM Don: Don't those ppl realize that without tiers there would be NO show??? Geez, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled
[VFB] Re: Show tying and sales, and 'bennies' -is it worth it?
i sent that last email before i had read this from Don.lol. Reason it came through twice is beyond me.other than the fact the first time i sent it.the last three sentences had gotten chopped off.so i tried to send just those three sentences again and the whole thing went through a second time.STILL sans the last three sentences. So here they are for the final time. To do shows is to be committed. What comes with the territory, is what comes with the territory. Case Closed. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales, and 'bennies' -is it worth it? Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:35:25 -0700 Tying shows, like Tony says, are different in how they handle tiers and vendors and selling. Here's my short history: I've been tying at Casper shows since the early 80's, so expenses were no big deal, and I could sell to my heart's content. The 1st out-of-state show I was invited to tie at was the Internat. Sportsman's Expo in Denver in 1995, by Pete Parker. One $$ 'bennie' at that show was a nice personalized ExOfficio Fishing shirt, and the ISE logo on it was a calling card at shows that one had 'arrived' at celebrity status. It was explained to me that tying in the video theater there was a status symbol in the front range arena, and wearing the shirt was your 'badge'. The second benny was my free private tying table, where I could sell anything I wanted (sold lots of flies and took orders). Led to another benny: Ed Rice, the owner, saw my flies at the table and invited me to tie at the San Mateo Show a month later- all expenses paid, plus a free booth (not table) for me to tie and sell, and Cheryl to assist me. I earned it with five 12-hour days on the job. Sold tons of Fantasy Flies and took a lot of orders and met a lot of folks. Pete told me that was the only time he had ever seen Ed pick up tier expenses for any show. Another neat benny for the Denver Show is that I've been featured twice in the Denver Post Sports section at ISE time. Great publicity for my Fantasy Flies. The next show I was invited to was the next year FFF conclave at the Outlaw Inn in Kalispel, MT. Assistance - block of cheaper rooms and lunch tickets. Sold lots of flies there too. And met a ton of real celebrities, one of whom was Lefty. After that, the Green River Fly Swap had me tie at their show for 7 years (after which they lost their city funding), paying an appearance fee ($$), mileage, and picking up the room. Also got a free double booth as the main co-attraction along with (different years) Jack Dennis, Mike Lawson, Gary Lafontaine. Got to sell boucou flies. Got free concession food and drinks, coffee, etc. Plus the red-carpet treatment. Have tied at the Denver ISE every year since. Get a new shirt each year and free entrance for me and Cheryl. Last year they gave Cheryl an honorary shirt just for being stuck with Buggs. So what's that- about 14 ISE shirts now? LOL Different shows come with different bennies. Chuck gave me me the front door booth for the first year, and then a double tying table each year after that. He usually gets good room deals, and Cheryl gets free entry. I like tying for Chuck as he realizes how important the tiers are to his show. He has a special low price for his show shirts. I have about twenty fly-show fishing shirts now, way too many to wear. The West Denver TU years ago (2001+/-) gave me the celebrity booth with Tom Whiting and paid expenses for me to tie until the locals got upset, and so I quit that show- too much politics. Made a lot of good friends there, tho. I've tied across the country from Florida to Cal. to New Orleans to New Jersey to Holland - dozens and dozens of shows of all kinds in between. It's all been good- no complaints really- just burned out. It's always a decision made freely to tie or not to tie. The show I'll never forget was Holland, and the hospitality and generosity and comradery and... If I accepted every show invitation and was fabulously wealthy like Mark R., I'd be doing a show every weekend too, and fishing my way in between. Wait... Cheryl just said No way, Hose' . So I've decided now to stay at home, tie, and drink beer with Buggs and Dr. D, and make DVDs. Burp! DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales I stand corrected on Shows and Conclaves. To me they are all shows., I have been tying at shows since 1989, Conclaves 1994. Doing demo tying since 1987. Have tied on and off from 1945 to 1988. Tony --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Show tying and sales To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 5:50 PM Tony, if i
[VFB] Re: Rabbit strip patterns needed
i was gonna mention Leeches too.but Don beat me to it. But basically Chuck, all you gotta do is strap it to a hook and go fishin'. Just size it rightthis aint rocket science. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Rabbit strip patterns needed Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:37:13 -0700 'Double Bunny' by Scott Sanchez Bunny leeches Matuka Bunny streamers Bunny strip sculpins Dalhberg Divers - Original Message - From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: [VFB] Rabbit strip patterns needed Folks: I have a BUNCH of rabbit strips. Can anybody give me any recipes/patterns for panfish (bluegill) made of these strips?? Thanks, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ BR _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] correction
sorry for three emails on one fly, but there's a mistake in the recipe..the tail veiling is not Peacock neck feathers.it's blue dyed Quinea. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: same fly Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:32:06 -0700 here's the other two pics Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large
yeah, i know.at least to some degree that's the problem..but hell, if i can get to where one GOOD pic is all i need, then that won't be a problem...not to mention down-sizing is just one more thing that takes time and makes the whole process just that much more time consumming and a pain in the ass. tye the fly.take the pic.etc., etc., etc., etc.,..by the time your getting some feedback..jesus h., you've got How much time investedlmao. i know, i know...bithc bitch bitch.lol. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Google Groups: The message is too large Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:40:58 -0600 Mark: The emails are over weight cause you need to size down the pics LOL. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: [VFB] RE: Google Groups: The message is too large i originally sent 4 different pics of the same fly in this email.then i got a message from google that the email was overweight, lol...so here it is again with just two pics..the other two will followonly reason i'm sending all four, is because none of 'em are that good, lmao. tried a few things with taken the pic(s) of this flynone of 'em worked that well.oh well. Hook: Red Ronn Lucas Sr. Noble D 6/0 Trailer is a Red Gamakatsu Octapus.size 2 maybe (?) Thread: most likely Danville 6/0 Primrose.(fly is a few months old) Tag: some kinna red tinsel/or braid Tail. dyed Red Goose, veiled with Blue Peacock neck feather barbs Butt: Blue Ostrich herl Rear Body: Red, White and Blue bead by Janet Thompson Center Body: Red SLF Forward Body: some Blue Dubbing of some sort Ribbing: some flashy Blue Braid Wing: Red, White and Blue PB Throat: Blue Peacock neck feathers Collar(s): dyed Red hen, actually Silver Laced Whyendott over White Rooster Head Eye: dyed Blue Red Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Carnival
Chuck.in the music.we strive to see with our ears and hear with our eyes. It's a processan understanding...an endeavor..a quest. The music is from the creator..to the artist..to the audiencewith split second timming. And, it only washes away the dust of everyday life. That's the same mission of the flies...to bring you joyand bring beauty into the world..nothin' elsesimple. Doesn't hurt that they are of great emotional, theraputic, value, to me. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Carnival Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:39:56 -0600 I see. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:15 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Carnival the flies are about the use of your imagination...i tye them so you can use your imagination to dream of whatever you like. they are out of my imagination, for your imagination fishing is the last thing i'm thinkin' about... fish gotta eat...you present damn near anything right.they'll eat it... back to the subject at hand.. From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Carnival Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:22:40 -0600 Mark: Are the pics of the flies that you post for fishing Atlantic salmon or something like that??? Or are they just as artistic ??? They are beautiful. I just wondered about what they would catch.. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:41 PM Subject: [VFB] Carnival lol, forgot to attach the pic.here it is. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR /HTMLBR _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: second shot is better
Tkx. Nev.and your absolutely right.i'm just tryin' different thingsi was a damn decent photographer at one time.took it in college...but digital is a whole other deal, and my eyesight is shot to nowdays.not to mention my hand aint that steady no more. i gotta start usin' the tripodi'll get it together. From: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] second shot is better Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:34:29 -0800 Mark: The second shot is much better. You don't want a busy background but a plain one to draw attention to the fly. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] oh yeah
De VinciDA! lmao _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: AW: [VFB] this one.....
guess so Thomas.didn't happen on purpose...but for that one application...it's kinna cool...plus, Dave Whitlock and 100 other tyer clue half the stuff they do anyway..i sometimes have to put a little dab underneath beads to ekkp 'em just soclue is used a whole lot in fly tying as you well know.sides, it's the end result that matters. kinna the opposite of it's not what you do, but how you do it LMAO From: royalcoach...@bluewin.ch To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: AW: [VFB] this one. Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:54:35 +0100 you mean you are now Fly Gluing instead of Fly Tying the da Vinci way … (not perfect) Thomas Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Romero Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. November 2009 08:44 An: virtual fly box Betreff: [VFB] this one. This is the one that i sent the recipe for the other day.and said to look for basically, a Purple Fly. This is an Alex Hayes hook i painted Purple. Got the bead off ebay.the veilings for the bead, (above and below ) are dyed blue CDC from Marc Petijean, and i forgot to tye them in at the proper time.so later on, i had to clue them in with Zap-a-Gap, by just dipping the stem in a drop of it, amd inserting them into position, lol. But they held fine with no mess whatsoever. Once i had them inserted, i hadda hold them like that for bout a minute each til they set. i kninna like the method.it's a clean way to do it, with pin point accuracy, and may be a better way to do it, as the drop off right in front of the bead with a bead that big, is trememdouswhich is why i use a dubbing brush for the forward portion of the body.nice and FAT! i made the dubbing brush out of some Purple synthetic dubbing and Red Light Bright, and it's picked out. For the wing i hadda go with what i had.and it's VERY difficult to find pheasent tails that have perfect tips no matter where you get them or what type of pheasent it is.but perfection is not what i'm after anyway. It's a general or sometimes specific effect that i'm after.to make a statement.an artistic statement. Nature is not perfect, art is not perfect, human beings are not perfect. Da Vinci prolly tell you the Mona Lisa was not perfect...so who cares. It was a successful work. Perfect is overrated, lmao. Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying for a living
Tony, and Don.both you guys got to much personality to be commercial tyers. With very few exceptions, (A.K. being one), i've found that most all the commercial tyers i've met.just somewho ended up the fly tyin' assembly line..but it may have been in any factory where they ended up. They just got those kinna personalities, where they can do the same thing over and over and over and over...you get the picture. Frickin' BBBOOORRRIIINNNGGG!!! Some people can hack it..and seems most of them also know how to live on nothin'..cause that's what a commercial fly tyers makes, NOTHIN! i did a little bit of it, and at $9 a dozen, (which is pretty much the standard rate payed), you don't make SQUAT! Nothin' wrong with side incomebut you aint gonna do nothin' but spend it right back in the fly shop, LMAO! Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:45:53 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying for a living To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Don, You hit the nail on the head, I tied for shops and resorts for four years, It can be a hassle. You have to be a person willing to spend the time at the vise and be able to live with it. Personally I burned out to the point that I really don't do a lot of tying now. My best time was a dozen wollybuggers in 45 minuets if I had everything set up beforehand. Tony --- On Sat, 11/14/09, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying for a living To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 9:50 PM Jimmy, I tied commercially - in the lng ago past- for a short time. Very Major YUK! For a professional tier, tying time is only a portion of the time invested. It depends on how efficient you are, how well planned your set-up time is, your tying facilities, etc. If you can be efficient in all these things, the %age of overhead services will be smaller. There's accounting, book-keeping, account payable, accounts receeivable, bill collecting, sales, purchasing problems with supplies/suppliers, materials handling and control, shipping, etc. One thing commercial tiers had was a huge box of waste necks with unuseable feathers. Take all the hats any business owner wears and the professional tier has to wear them at some time. I estimated with all of the time invested besides tying, the actual realistic production time (tying) was about 50% getting started, and once the bugs got worked out, about 70%. If you don't pay attention to the support functions, it will fail. If you pay for the services, it comes right off the top. Competition from overseas tying has make commercial tying here either starvation wages or hobby only. So factor these things in with your calculations. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:00 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying Book came Wow, that's 36,000 flies a year! He tie them all himself? If so, at my tying average speed of 2 minutes per fly, that translates into 2 X 36,000 = 72,000 minutes % 60 minutes / hr = 1,200 hours at the bench. 1,200 % 24 (hours in a day) = 50 days, if I tied 24 hours a day. Now, considering that I run out of gas after about 4 hours at the bench, this would mean that it'd take me 1,200 hours % 4 hours = 300 days to tie the 36,000. DUH! Ain't gonna happen !! :-P :-( :-D JIMMY D chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks; i received my copy of Production Tying by AK Best today. Seems to be an awesome book. Can't wait to read it. The forward tells about how AK ties to sell over 3,000 DOZEN flies per YEAR. I can't even imagine that, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Gut eyes / Furled Silk Eyes
Not bad at all Iain...those came out pretty dang nice. Please do me a favorgo to my site, and join...you'll have to join to be able to post.then post that on the forum(s) page. Start a new discussion and post it there. Title it, Fureled Silk Eyes or whatever you like. There's plenty of members there, (got bout 140 now) that might like to learn about iti'd really appreciate it..whenever you have . http://www.pureartflytying.ning.com Thank you, mark. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Gut eyes / Furled Silk Eyes Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:45:42 + I furled the waxed silk thread to make the eye. I normally use cream silk but here using red white thread to show the construction The all cream eyes look fine to frame but I wouldn't fish them iain Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Mixed Wing
lmao.just so happens it has a MoHair body as well..same MoHair as the previous posted fly. And in case anyone wants to know.that hooks is an antique Mustad 3899VERY cool blind eye hooks with a Sproat bend. That's one is a 5/0. The 3899's and a few other old Mustad models were not tapered, so the shank is the same diameter front to back and the blind tip is squared off, and the front portion of the shank has little groves filed into it. That was to give the gut something to grip when it was being lashed down, and aid in a better hold. These hooks were used on long lines to bait fish with, off a boat, way back in the days. Salmon fly tyers use them a lot nowdays, as they have a very nice bend and barb/point. They are highly collectable nowdays..i've got a few hundred in sizes from 1/0 to 6/0.watch ebay for them, the come available fairly often. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Mixed Wing Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:56:12 -0700 Couple people said, keep 'em commin'..so. Here's another example of a mixed wing i did a year ago or more back. The bead is a real cheapo but i like it. Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Gut eyes / Furled Silk Eyes
Iain, is there any specific reason you used waxed (silk) thread over non-waxed? From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Gut eyes / Furled Silk Eyes Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:45:42 + I furled the waxed silk thread to make the eye. I normally use cream silk but here using red white thread to show the construction The all cream eyes look fine to frame but I wouldn't fish them iain Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it
Reuven, here's the answer to your question, put public, in the hopes that someone may learn something. Ron Reinhold would sell them whenever he had a certain number put aside. And he ALWAYS had a waiting line, big time. i got a couple of them one time and one time only. It was a tricky kinna deal.cause you had to call him, to make sure you were not gonna be forget.but as everybody who ever dealt with Ron knows.once you got him on the phone.you could not get him off the phone. He's one of those people who will keep talkin' til you hang up. LMAO.course he is always so interesting to talk toyou really don't mindbut three hours later you may have had something you hadda do, lmao. i only started buying/collecting/whatever, blind eye hooks about 6 years ago, and Ron sold out to Ronn (Lucas Sr.), but 4 years ago. So the Master Ron Reinhold was outta the picture not that long after i got into it. Ronn Lucas went and spent time with Ron Rienhold at his house in Michigan, (Lucas lives in Oregon) and learned from the Master himself. Ron taught Ronn everything he could over a few weeks i think it was.and Ronn bought everything Ronn had, EXCEPT his antique hook collection. For a while the antigue collection was up for sale in it's entirety for $10K.but inevitably it got sold off peace meal to a whole lotta different people. i got to see the entire thing when Ronn brought it with him to show us in Cleveland at the Atlantic Salmon Fly Tying/Steelhead Fly Fishing Symposium that was held there bout 4 times over the course of bout a 6 years period. They've never held it again since that year i went in 2004. It happend a couple years in a row and then a couple more times with time in between times.it was Cool. A half dozen or so, of the best in the world would come and teach and you took classes. And there was a dinner and an auctionhehehehehehe. It was at the Natural History Museum in Cleveland. As far as i know.all the so-called rejects are in the hands of tyers at this point in time.and i would think that they have all been dressed by now. Since they were inexpensive, i'm sure they've all been used up. Most serious (Atlantic) Salmon fly tyers go thru a process of chopping' their flies while they get to a certain level.in other words reusing hooks over and over again, to save money until they feel that they can consistantly dress a fly to the point where they no longer need to just simply practice. Or until they can afford hooks in numbers. And there are those very highly qualified Salmon fly tyes who never do really get into using the best hooks. Those are rare though, and i would believe that its just cause they're CHEAP! LMAO.. Personally i never chop a fly.i mean i havebut that was when it was just such a piece of crap when it was finished...blah blah blah...it's only happen less times than i could count on one hand. Not that MOST of my flies aren't horrible in my eyes...they are.but i just don't believe in choppin' flies OR being cheap, lol. A fly is a performancelive with itDEAL..get over it. .You dig? Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:34:48 +1100 From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au To: markflie...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] i souldn'ta done it Hi Mark: Just out of curiousity, you mentioned that some hooks were once sold off for $5 (rejects) for a couple of years. What happens with these hooks now? Is it possible to access these hooks through someone, or are they just labelled differently now? Reuven Mark Romero wrote: i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself.lol. i just sent $60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's bout an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is actually the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking $45 and i was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up the diff, lol. So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals because he considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between them and the Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he could see. The Exhibtions always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is why they are sometimes refered to as Gold Labels
[VFB] Re: Slamon fly hook profile names- website Was: i souldn'ta done it
You dig. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Slamon fly hook profile names- website Was: i souldn'ta done it Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:56:44 -0700 Neat site for salmon fly hook profiles and names: http://www.ronnlucassr.com/terminology.htm More curves than a fashion show. DonO - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it never spent that much for a single hook before.i gotta be frickin' nuts.but what the hell...it's not about the money when you tye on somethin' that beautiful...they actually DO inspire when you tye on them..not that i'm really worthy of thembut like i said, what the hell...somebody gotta do it, lmao. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
Man, i want some of whatever it is he's been smokin'...
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:52:18 -0600
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Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY
If we carry purism to a logical conclusion, to do it right {fishing} you'd
have to live naked in a cave, hit your trout on the head with rocks, and eat
them raw. But, so as not to violate another essential element of the
fly-fishing tradition, the rocks would have to be quarried in England and cost
$300 each.
John Gierach
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[VFB] Re: 3 more
From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: 3 more Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:03:07 -0700 Exotic cork-holder for your fly... - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:53 PM Subject: [VFB] 3 more Here's the other three i was gonna send altogether. i guess we'll see if the system can handle 3 pics at once. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: 3 more
btw, you notice the cock itselfStonefly Wines was at the FFF International Conclave in Loveland this year.and the guy who was mannin' their booth kept commin' over to my table over and over again..he was really into the flies. So finally i ask him what he does for a living and he tells me he has a booth at the show and he workds for Stonefly Wines, and he brought all the wine for the dinners, etc. So then he ask me if i need any corksARE YOU KIDDING?i ALWAYS need more corks. So he gives me a big bag of brand new, unused corksand they're great because they've never been squeezed into a bottle and they're FAT and sit perfectly straight. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: 3 more Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:03:07 -0700 Exotic cork-holder for your fly... - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:53 PM Subject: [VFB] 3 more Here's the other three i was gonna send altogether. i guess we'll see if the system can handle 3 pics at once. Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.BR _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: 3 more
thankx Pete.i thought i already put the recipe upi dunno..so many flies.so little time.i've got dozens of flies finished i've never even taken pics of yet.and more in the vises...i'm always either way behind or way ahead.depending on how you look at it. that fly is already put back downstairs.and my computer station is upstairs.lemme look at the pic again.. Hook: Reinhold 5/0 Low Water Dee XL Thread: was prolly Danville 6/0 Primrose Tag: like i said, the fly is downstairs now.but from the pick it looks just like regular antigue tinsel Tail: is some white water flow feather with some dyed malard fiber for a veiling Butt: is purple dyed Ostrich herl and then a bead i got in a local shop here Rib: is silver oval tinsel i believe, might be gold, but without the fly in my hand.looks silver.. Body: that's saltwater SLF picked out Wing: it's dyed Amhearst Pheasent tail fibers and undyed Argus Pheasent tail fibers done in the mixed wing style.you just build the wing in your fingers keeping the tips together after you have cut slips and seperated the fibers into single piles or maybe piles of two or three at most. So to blend them, you pick up lefts and rights one by one by one by one by one until you have them all gathered in your fingers with the tips pretty much evened, doing one at a time by color. It takes a while to do these wingsyou have to cut all your slips.seperate all the fibers and lay them out.by lefts and rights and color, and then put it all back together again into a wing that you can mount. And this particular wing i did skinny on purpose.normally it'd be bout twice that dense or moreit just depends on the hook your using and the style of the fly you want or the look you want. Collars: there's two, purple and grey Head/Eye: dyed purple and Fandango Pink or Fusia.i can't remember.that fly is months old i prolly shoulda wrote down all the recipes of the hundreds and hundreds of flies i've swaped, given away, donated, sold, have gone into plates, etc. but what the hell..i never repeat a fly anyway.so who the hell needs the recipe, lmao Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:14:34 -0500 Subject: [VFB] Re: 3 more From: pete.gr...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cool fly!! - may I ask what the ingredients are / what the recipe is? I'd single out those items I'm most curious of, but that would list every part of the fly Seriously, the wing really piqued my fancy... not a married feather-slip wing, but yet there's definite purple and pink- dyed fibers... At the risk of sounding like someone new to these flies (which I freely admit, I am!), I'll ask what the materials are and how you got them to arrange in that manner. Again, for being a perfectionist and banal realism junky, this is really a cool tie! Keep them coming, -Pete _ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying Book came
funny how production tyers always wanna boast bout how many flies they tye a year...wass up with that??? does anybody really care...? lmaothass like some guy on an assembly line talkin' bout how many tires he makes a year...lmao.or cookies..or stuffed animals.who gives a flyin' crap? lmao.. Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:29:28 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying Book came From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com The average work year for a person is 2080 hours. So he is a part time worker ;) Mike On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: Wow, that's 36,000 flies a year! He tie them all himself? If so, at my tying average speed of 2 minutes per fly, that translates into 2 X 36,000 = 72,000 minutes % 60 minutes / hr = 1,200 hours at the bench. 1,200 % 24 (hours in a day) = 50 days, if I tied 24 hours a day. Now, considering that I run out of gas after about 4 hours at the bench, this would mean that it'd take me 1,200 hours % 4 hours = 300 days to tie the 36,000. DUH! Ain't gonna happen !! :-P :-( :-D JIMMY D chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks; i received my copy of Production Tying by AK Best today. Seems to be an awesome book. Can't wait to read it. The forward tells about how AK ties to sell over 3,000 DOZEN flies per YEAR. I can't even imagine that, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying Book came
save me somma what you drinkin'. Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:09:14 +1100 From: reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying Book came Hoy Matk: Don't get jealous that he is an expert. Anyone who ties that many flies must be goodor extremely bored, or living in Nigeria. How about we get one of those Nigerians who tie 10,000 flies a year to writ a book...or to atleast offer to share with us a US$72 billion inheritance from his great- uncle if we just deposit US$2000 for the paperwork to go through. Mark Romero wrote: funny how production tyers always wanna boast bout how many flies they tye a year...wass up with that??? does anybody really care...? lmaothass like some guy on an assembly line talkin' bout how many tires he makes a year...lmao.or cookies..or stuffed animals.who gives a flyin' crap? lmao.. Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:29:28 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: Production Fly Tying Book came From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com The average work year for a person is 2080 hours. So he is a part time worker ;) Mike On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net mailto:ray...@earthlink.net wrote: Wow, that's 36,000 flies a year! He tie them all himself? If so, at my tying average speed of 2 minutes per fly, that translates into 2 X 36,000 = 72,000 minutes % 60 minutes / hr = 1,200 hours at the bench. 1,200 % 24 (hours in a day) = 50 days, if I tied 24 hours a day. Now, considering that I run out of gas after about 4 hours at the bench, this would mean that it'd take me 1,200 hours % 4 hours = 300 days to tie the 36,000. DUH! Ain't gonna happen !! :-P :-( :-D JIMMY D chuckalexan...@hughes.net mailto:chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Folks; i received my copy of Production Tying by AK Best today. Seems to be an awesome book. Can't wait to read it. The forward tells about how AK ties to sell over 3,000 DOZEN flies per YEAR. I can't even imagine that, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] FW: instructions
this was sent to Iain, and then back to.scroll down. From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: iainsh...@hotmail.com Subject: instructions Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:02:14 -0700 might as well do it now.here's the tyin' instructions..don't loose this, lol. always protect your good ($) hooks in the vise with some sort of protection against the inside of the jaws... start thread pretty much anywhere you like...i almost always do a complete smooth touching turns covering of the entire hook, (area that will be convered with materials), before doing anything else.but that's not nessessarily nessessary. i will always flatten my thread and make sure my tag area is very smooth before doing the tag. if it isn't smooth underneath.the tag will not look right. first turn or two of the tag are on bare hook shank.that gets a bit of a taper started. finish tag. attach tails feathers...trim butts and smooth over that area so the entire length of the area where the butt will go is the same height and level.prepare, tie in and wrap butt material(s). prepare the area for the beadattach bead and secureprepare and attach veilingsattach and wrap mid-body sectionpick out MoHair and strok to the rear..attach second bead. Affix eye and trim tags ends in a staggerd fashion so as to maintain a taper to the shank or to at least keep the shank from becomming to large (fat), at the eye end. build wing, layering the incrediants.this is done in the built wing fashion.material by material. Keep the rear ends of the wing tapered by staggering the trimming of them...you don't want things blunt cut or squared off.. trim and wrap the butts of the winging materials..again, do not make blunt cuts...taper the trimming, and keep the wrap overs smooth and even as possible.maintaining a uniform height alone the shank as much as possible. you need an even platform for your collars. a somewhat gentle slope down to the head area is ok. at this point on this fly i added a bit of body material in front of the wing, as i had to much room left over for the collars.(i could of just did MORE of a collar and would have but), actually not really.what it was, was the fact that my collars might have covered to much of the forward bead if i had started them that far back.so i wanted to push everything a bit more forward, hence the extra body material in front of the wing. perpare and afix each Jungle Cock nails in a drooping style prepare, afix and wrap each collar seperately, doing both with tight touching turns one directly in front of the other, both the tuns AND each collar. finish wraping head, whip finish, detach thread, dye both head and eye, and apply as many coats of whatever you like so as to get the finish your happy with, letting each coat fully dry before the next if you have the pataince, lmao. primp to your hearts desire. i usually dye my eyes right after affixing them...and i dye the thread area where the collar(s) will be wraped before wraping so as to be absolutly sure no white or primrose thread will ever show thru. Main reason old Salmon fly tyers used white thread as their working thread is because they didn't want anything to show thru once the fly got wetand colored threads/silk were hard, if not impossible to get. Today we do it because it's much easier to see when your thread is flattening when your doing that. Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. Learn more. Download Messenger onto your mobile for free. Learn more. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] gut
my newest stash of gut just came in to the post office this morning.the tennis racquet stuff. it's the heaviest gauge gut i've ever seen and definately will only be able to be used as a single strand, untwisted. Should work out as an untwisted eye though. Might look cool that way.i guess we'll see. Main reason i put this here is so anyone (and i know there are a couple of you), thinking of ordering some.BE WARNED.this still will NOT work with ordianry size hooks. You've gotta be tyin' on MONSTER hooks to have any use for this stuff. . _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Fly Swap Open
i'll get the pic taken and to you by tonight Iain..flies been finished for days. From: iainsh...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Fly Swap Open Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:06:01 + Christmas Fly Swap 1. You only tie one fly and send me the digital photo of it. 2. Enclose tying instructions and Christmas message to the rest of VFB if you like. 3. I have put photos on both my photobucket and flickr photo sites in dedicated Christmas fly swap albums, the web addresses are below so everyone can see the flies. http://www.flickr.com/photos/82854...@n00/sets/72157622744142158/ http://s668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/bigyin1961/Christmas%20Fly%20Swap/ Any fly as long as you can photograph it but must contain Deer Hair or Big Horn Sheep. Christmas colours would be nice but not compulsory No money, No posting flies, Just tie one and Email the photo with tying instructions to me. There is no limit to the number of entrants to this swap as you only have to tie one fly and email the photo to me. 1. Rene Zillmann - 2. Jimmy Moore-Thor Photo Received Posted on Photobucket 3. Walter Shockley - 4. Jerry McKaughan-Tapps Bug Photo Received Posted 5. Joyce Westphal-Santa's Shaving Brush Photo Received Posted 6. Alan Fish - Everett Drake Minnow - 7. Ashley Strutt - 8. Mark Romero - Denver Bronco 9. Bob Haering - 10. George Vincent - 11. Kieth Passant - 12. Alan Fish 13. Iain Short - Keyser Findhorn Photo Received 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Don
i heard from Kevin..i had contacted him bout the DVD before you spoke to him. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly
i agree with what you say Jimmy.Don is in a class all by himself. What i mean is, he's a one of a kind, and definately deserves a place in an upcomming volume of the FTW series. Just so there's no confusioni'm sure what Don means is that Bob Mead is the one who invited him to participate in a volume of Fly Tyers of the World.because the books are actually by, (compiled, photos and editing) Steve Thornton. My volume 3. is in the mail. The first two are superb. i speak with Bob regularly and he is in Danbury, Conn. for the show there this weekend as we speak. Don, what you really outta consider doing, is going over to England and tying at Steve's show comming up in March. We just got our invitations to go for next year.but we're gonna have to pass for 2010 so we can do other events. If you'd like Steve's emails (i just spoke with him yesterday) or an introduction, lemme know. You'll have the time of your life. It's a GREAT show. One ticket price gets the public in to both Steve's show and a HUGE gun and wing shooting show. There were over 10K people a day there. You will Constantly have 25 people in front of your table. Big fun. Oh, and materials...to be had. Your so humble you refer to a chapter as an article.lol. Guys, there's bout 20 tyers featured in each volume. And the article would be pages long. Please do it Don.more people need to see your work. And Steve's photography is REDICKALUS! From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:30:06 -0700 Jimmy, DonO is blushing red. You should see him. Buggs Just a note. I have never advertised my Fantasy Flies on the VFB out of respect for Byard, who doesn't allow for information for sales that compete with his flyshop and the dollars available from the VFB. Once this Special Edition of my DVD's is over, Byard will have rights to sell the DVDs from his site, if he wants to get active on it again. I emailed Jimmy about my feelings above and thanked him for the plug. -And for the great compliments. I'm not a 'lime-light' grabber and I'd much rather focus attention on my flies than on me. Sometimes I find myself in the limelight, but I try to focus on the flies even then (they're cuter, too). There's a new book Flytiers of the World and I've been invited to be in it from the very beginning (by Bob Mead). Problem is, the article has to focus on the tier much more on the work. I'm so uncomfortable with that aspect that I get 'writer's block' when I try. I'd much rather do the article about the flies. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: [VFB] Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly For those of you who wondered about the Longhorn Stone Fly that DonO tied for me, I am pleased to give you a look at it. Notice how realistic it is. When DonO first gave it to me, I thought it was real. Folks, it takes real talent and artistic ability to tie such a fly. I have it mounted in a shadow box sitting on the top of my roll top desk. I know of only one other fly tyer that's in the same class with DonO and that's Vlad Markov of Urkutsk, Russia. I don't know if you're aware, but DonO ties HUGE flies, like a size 19 or so and mounts them on driftwood or whatever else he wants to use. To see some of DonO's creations, click on the link below. In my opinion, Don Ordes is one of the most creative fly tyers in the world. His flies are truly works of art. http://www.fantasyflies.com/catalog.shtml JIMMY D º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly
went to the site.where do you click to see the Longhorn Stonefly??? Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:37:04 -0600 From: ray...@earthlink.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly For those of you who wondered about the Longhorn Stone Fly that DonO tied for me, I am pleased to give you a look at it. Notice how realistic it is. When DonO first gave it to me, I thought it was real. Folks, it takes real talent and artistic ability to tie such a fly. I have it mounted in a shadow box sitting on the top of my roll top desk. I know of only one other fly tyer that's in the same class with DonO and that's Vlad Markov of Urkutsk, Russia. I don't know if you're aware, but DonO ties HUGE flies, like a size 19 or so and mounts them on driftwood or whatever else he wants to use. To see some of DonO's creations, click on the link below. In my opinion, Don Ordes is one of the most creative fly tyers in the world. His flies are truly works of art. http://www.fantasyflies.com/catalog.shtml JIMMY D º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: AW: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - our occupations, hobbies, etc.
Thankx for the really cool slide show Nick.saw Splinta, saw Rene, Peggy, and a couple others i've met before, i think. Sure looks like it was a fantastic time. And there's nothin' better than fresh Striper to eat. Tkx., again. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:43:39 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: AW: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - our occupations, hobbies, etc. Mark, Splinta is doing the Striperhead once or twice a year. I had the peasure to attend some 2 years ago with my son. Was a great trip, and Splinta is a great, friendly and helpfull guy. It was really a pleasure to meet him and the other striper crazies. Here is an experimental side with pics: http://mitglied.lycos.de/rzillmann free, therfore some ads. sorry Rene Mark Romero wrote: THERE'S a name i haven heard in quite a while. Splinta Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:33 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: AW: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - our occupations, hobbies, etc. *Occupation* - Industry Consultant for Manufacturing Industries* Hobbies* - Water: Fishing, Sailing, Aquarium, Wine* First fish* - A smal bream on dough* Who taught you to fish ?* my Dad somehow, even if he already passed away when I started fishing. I found hisfishing book, read it and started fishing.* Favorite writer* - Anna, my daughter* Favorite fishing writer* - Don't care* Favorite fly rod* - First rod I build. But it has a rival now* Favorite fly reel* - 5wt Danielsson* Favorite species* - Brown Trout *Largest fish on fly rod *- Must be a blue or striper during last Striperhead meeting. Thanks to Splinta. *Open wish: *A salmon on the fly _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene, i think it's MacKenzie.next time i go downstairs...blah blah blah...lmao. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:49:41 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Joe, I cannot find it on Amazon. Is the Author correct spelled. I tried diff. variations, but no avail. Rene Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: *Rene - / /I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com mailto:jfusc...@gmail.com* On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com mailto:markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly
ohlmao From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:10:00 -0700 Mark, the longhorn stone is on JimmyD's site. The Fantasy Flies are on mine. DonO - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly went to the site.where do you click to see the Longhorn Stonefly??? Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:37:04 -0600 From: ray...@earthlink.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Jimmy's Longhorn Stone Fly For those of you who wondered about the Longhorn Stone Fly that DonO tied for me, I am pleased to give you a look at it. Notice how realistic it is. When DonO first gave it to me, I thought it was real. Folks, it takes real talent and artistic ability to tie such a fly. I have it mounted in a shadow box sitting on the top of my roll top desk. I know of only one other fly tyer that's in the same class with DonO and that's Vlad Markov of Urkutsk, Russia. I don't know if you're aware, but DonO ties HUGE flies, like a size 19 or so and mounts them on driftwood or whatever else he wants to use. To see some of DonO's creations, click on the link below. In my opinion, Don Ordes is one of the most creative fly tyers in the world. His flies are truly works of art. http://www.fantasyflies.com/catalog.shtml JIMMY D º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now.BR _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene, you'll love that book. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:05:23 -0600 From: jklepo...@sbcglobal.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Here is a copy available on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Fly-Tying-Hair-Hackle-Tying-Techniques-GREAT-NEW_W0QQitemZ200322262426QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Nonfiction_Book?hash=item2ea423259a Rene Zillmann wrote: Joe, I cannot find it on Amazon. Is the Author correct spelled. I tried diff. variations, but no avail. Rene Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: *Rene - / /I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com mailto:jfusc...@gmail.com* On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com mailto:markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
saw the stonefly Don..VERY cool. i have some Geroge Grant flies somewhere..can't find 'em.i think i left 'em up at the Roscoe house.jeeze. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:17:48 -0700 George Grant was a true innovator and artist. Another one was Franz Pott. http://flytying.infonet.ee/crabby/woven.html He designed neat woven bodies. I have many flies using his belly-weave. DonO - Original Message - From: Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel George Grant's flies are really something to see. http://web.mac.com/robertdotson/iWeb/Fly%20Collection/George%20Grant.html Wes Wada _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Thankx a LOT Wes.i bookmarked itso many wonderful tyers and flies..i have a framed self potrait of Polly Roseborough with 6 of his flies in it. And reading the last part of the talk Ernie Schweibert gave at the AMFF really took me back to the 3/4 times i got to hear him speak in front of groups. His endings were alwasy KILLER. And so true as to why we stay invloved with all of thisone of the ONLY things i know of, where you can partially remain the kid you once were. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:03:46 -0800 Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle From: w...@wadaworks.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel George Grant's flies are really something to see. http://web.mac.com/robertdotson/iWeb/Fly%20Collection/George%20Grant.html Wes Wada _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] i souldn'ta done it
i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself.lol. i just sent $60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's bout an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is actually the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking $45 and i was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up the diff, lol. So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals because he considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between them and the Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he could see. The Exhibtions always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is why they are sometimes refered to as Gold Labels. He also used to sell (for a number of years), what were known as rejects for $5.oo each. And even those were beautiful. Seems bout every year the prices for the Traditionals goes to where the Gold Lables (Exhibitions) was, and the Exhibitions just go up. You'd think the dang things were made of Gold. One of the ones on ebay right now is an Emerald Islethey are really sexy...gorgeous hook. And there's also a Phillps Jones, VERY nice as well. This stuff is sick, lmao. Who'da ever thunk it. But the dang things are just so beautiful.it's what Doc Schwiebert was talkin' bout..Beauty. . _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it
old saying my Pal Rick Richardson (Walid, after he got religion, lmao) a door-man at the Keystone Korner in S.F. WAY back in the days.(70's) use to say. It be COLD when the Jones come down on ya. rotflmao... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:58 -0800 Mark, Yep! You have the Hook Monkey and your Jones is BAD! May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] i souldn'ta done it Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:22:49 -0700 i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself.lol. i just sent $60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's bout an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is actually the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking $45 and i was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up the diff, lol. So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals because he considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between them and the Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he could see. The Exhibtions always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is why they are sometimes refered to as Gold Labels. He also used to sell (for a number of years), what were known as rejects for $5.oo each. And even those were beautiful. Seems bout every year the prices for the Traditionals goes to where the Gold Lables (Exhibitions) was, and the Exhibitions just go up. You'd think the dang things were made of Gold. One of the ones on ebay right now is an Emerald Islethey are really sexy...gorgeous hook. And there's also a Phillps Jones, VERY nice as well. This stuff is sick, lmao. Who'da ever thunk it. But the dang things are just so beautiful.it's what Doc Schwiebert was talkin' bout..Beauty. . Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn more. /html _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] pic
Iain.you've got (pic) email. Not the greatest pic of all time.but sufficiant i guess. Even Misa takes a lousey pic on occassionbut it was a rush job, and we couldn't get it done til after daylight. guess that's enough excuses, lmao. awaiting your answer bout recipe _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it
never spent that much for a single hook before.i gotta be frickin' nuts.but what the hell...it's not about the money when you tye on somethin' that beautiful...they actually DO inspire when you tye on them..not that i'm really worthy of thembut like i said, what the hell...somebody gotta do it, lmao. Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:16:23 + From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it omg i cant believe that you just did that wow lol but like you said if you snooze you loose lol ha ha ha wow cant wait to see what you tie on that lol hope all is well - Original Message - From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:08:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it old saying my Pal Rick Richardson (Walid, after he got religion, lmao) a door-man at the Keystone Korner in S.F. WAY back in the days.(70's) use to say. It be COLD when the Jones come down on ya. rotflmao... From: desert-tr...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: i souldn'ta done it Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:58 -0800 Mark, Yep! You have the Hook Monkey and your Jones is BAD! May your GOD be your fishing partner. i'mEMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] i souldn'ta done it Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:22:49 -0700 i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...i shouldn'ta done it...lmao. But i just couldn't help myself. lol. i just sent $60 to Montana and my guy with the Reinholds, for one Noble P #1. That's bout an 8/0.with a fairly long shank. i got a William Harrison Bartleet (also a Reinhold) 10/0 from him back on May 1st in Ellensburg at the Washington State Fly Fishing Fair, (which is actually the FFF Washington State Council Conclave), for $40. He was asking $45 and i was sposed to buy him a burger (which never happened) to make up the diff, lol. So i figure i got the Noble P for $55 and he finally got his $5 lmao. That 10/0 i got back on May 1st.could bring $65 to $70 now. It's a Gold Lable. i can't believe how these puppies just keep goin' up and up. He's got 4 more on ebay right now if anyone's lookin'..they're all Traditionals, not Exhibitions or Gold Labes. Ron sold his Traditionals as traditionals because he considered them not Perfect. The only differenca between them and the Exhibitions were very tiny minute flaws that only he could see. The Exhibtions always came wraped in a Gold Lable paper, which is why they are sometimes refered to as Gold Labels. He also used to sell (for a number of years), what were known as rejects for $5.oo each. And even those were beautiful. Seems bout every year the prices for the Traditionals goes to where the Gold Lables (Exhibitions) was, and the Exhibitions just go up. You'd think the dang things were made of Gold. One of the ones on ebay right now is an Emerald Islethey are really sexy...gorgeous hook. And there's also a Phillps Jones, VERY nice as well. This stuff is sick, lmao. Who'da ever thunk it. But the dang things are just so beautiful.it's what Doc Schwiebert was talkin' bout..Beauty. . Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn more. /html _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
how do you mean invited? do you mean to tye? i have no call there..but you don't need to be invited to attend and hang out and watch and learn..you pay your $5 and your good to go. sure hope you can make it. remember, Thurs./Fri./Sat. March 18th, 19th, 20th. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:47:18 -0600 Never been invited didn’t think I could swing that long a trip this time of year. When is it again? Maybe I could adjust my schedule… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:42 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY J.B., are you commin' down for the Sowbug? i sure hope so. even if you aint a Yankees fan, lmao From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:51:30 -0600 I remembered another bird, it was a swallow on a dry fly. Ok, I caught the following, but not on a fly, they were on light spinning gear; Freshwater clam. Caught on a spoon fishing for stripers on Lake Pepin, the Wisconsin side. I have a picture somewhere... Seagull, on a tandem spinner. Snapping turtle on a red devil. A friend of mine caught his own ear w/ a worm on a hook. It was hilarious taking him to the hospital on the bus, hook, worm bobber dangling from his ear when we were in h.s. I told him he had to leave the bobber attached to avoid damaging his ear:) -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Lehman Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:25 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY 1: 4 foot alligator in Naples Florida. Fishing for bluegill with a popper. I knew gators were there but didn't see him until he took the popper from beneath. Billfish rules apply. If you can get your hand on the leader its called a catch and you can break him off. 2: Seagull that took an EP streamer on the backcast turnover while fishing for red snapper in the Gulf. Hooked him in the foot. He just sat down on the water and glared at us until we pulled him to the boat, wrapped him in a towel and released him. 3: A dragonfly took a small nymph at the end of a puddle cast while fishing Austin Lady Bird lake for sunfish. He ended up spinning the tippet around himself so bad I couldn't save him. I won the best liar category in the Austin Fly Fishers Perchmaster's Classic tournament. Jack Austin Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a /neat idea/ for a new thread. What *non-fish* (or very /non-standard/ fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO - Original Message - *From:* Jimmy D. Moore mailto:ray...@earthlink.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:17 AM *Subject:* [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P J Balmer wrote: Or how long would fly tying as a business lastJ *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy D. Moore *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45 AM *To:* Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers *Subject:* [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our stream fishing last? Art Flick Streamside Guide [1947] º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River
[VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod?
J.B., you gonna run outta fingers and toes.. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:51:54 -0600 I’ve also caught a boat a pier , if those countJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:00 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Fw: [VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? Weird fly-catches so far... Cottonmouth- JimmyD Owl- JimmyD (bear don't count unless you hooked him) bat- DonO, Mark R. Herring Gull- Iain Canada Goose- TonyS Freshwater Eel- JeffF Turkey, as in self-hooked -JayB, MikeB Alligator- DonO, Jack L, Companion- hopefully CR- Rene Seagull- Jack L, Dragonfly- Jack L Pelican- MikeB This would make for a neat article on Byard's website, if he'd ever upgrade it. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: [VFB] Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? OK, I'll start the thread. Besides trout, I've fished for all kinds of panfish, largemouth, smallmouth, guadalupe, and spotted bass, salt water blues and speckled trout Yeah, and I've hooked a few tires, rods and reels, trotlines, etc. Caught one cottonmouth and gave my boat to him, while I walked on water to get to the bank. and lest I forget, there was that Owl I hooked on the Rayado, and the young black bear who stole my tippet, fly and my big brown. :-D JIMMY D Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a neat idea for a new thread. What non-fish (or very non-standard fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO -- BRBR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.60/2496 - Release Date: 11/11/09 19:41:00 _ Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/pc-scout/laptop-set-criteria.aspx?cbid=wlfilt=200,2400,10,19,1,3,1,7,50,650,2,12,0,1000cat=1,2,3,4,5,6brands=5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16addf=4,5,9ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
Cool Bro. Be safe either way. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:27:27 -0600 Didn’t mean invited to tie, I’m not that good yetJ If I don’t go to Chicago for Marcie’s mom that weekend, I’ll try swing it. If I come, I’ll bring my 5wt a guitar for Tony. From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY how do you mean invited? do you mean to tye? i have no call there..but you don't need to be invited to attend and hang out and watch and learn..you pay your $5 and your good to go. sure hope you can make it. remember, Thurs./Fri./Sat. March 18th, 19th, 20th. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:47:18 -0600 Never been invited didn’t think I could swing that long a trip this time of year. When is it again? Maybe I could adjust my schedule… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:42 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY J.B., are you commin' down for the Sowbug? i sure hope so. even if you aint a Yankees fan, lmao From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:51:30 -0600 I remembered another bird, it was a swallow on a dry fly. Ok, I caught the following, but not on a fly, they were on light spinning gear; Freshwater clam. Caught on a spoon fishing for stripers on Lake Pepin, the Wisconsin side. I have a picture somewhere... Seagull, on a tandem spinner. Snapping turtle on a red devil. A friend of mine caught his own ear w/ a worm on a hook. It was hilarious taking him to the hospital on the bus, hook, worm bobber dangling from his ear when we were in h.s. I told him he had to leave the bobber attached to avoid damaging his ear:) -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Lehman Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:25 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY 1: 4 foot alligator in Naples Florida. Fishing for bluegill with a popper. I knew gators were there but didn't see him until he took the popper from beneath. Billfish rules apply. If you can get your hand on the leader its called a catch and you can break him off. 2: Seagull that took an EP streamer on the backcast turnover while fishing for red snapper in the Gulf. Hooked him in the foot. He just sat down on the water and glared at us until we pulled him to the boat, wrapped him in a towel and released him. 3: A dragonfly took a small nymph at the end of a puddle cast while fishing Austin Lady Bird lake for sunfish. He ended up spinning the tippet around himself so bad I couldn't save him. I won the best liar category in the Austin Fly Fishers Perchmaster's Classic tournament. Jack Austin Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a /neat idea/ for a new thread. What *non-fish* (or very /non-standard/ fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO - Original Message - *From:* Jimmy D. Moore mailto:ray...@earthlink.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:17 AM *Subject:* [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P J Balmer wrote: Or how long would fly tying as a business lastJ *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy D. Moore *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45
RE: AW: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - our occupations, hobbies, etc.
THERE'S a name i haven heard in quite a while. Splinta Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:51:33 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: AW: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - our occupations, hobbies, etc. *Occupation* - Industry Consultant for Manufacturing Industries* Hobbies* - Water: Fishing, Sailing, Aquarium, Wine* First fish* - A smal bream on dough* Who taught you to fish ?* my Dad somehow, even if he already passed away when I started fishing. I found hisfishing book, read it and started fishing.* Favorite writer* - Anna, my daughter* Favorite fishing writer* - Don't care* Favorite fly rod* - First rod I build. But it has a rival now* Favorite fly reel* - 5wt Danielsson* Favorite species* - Brown Trout *Largest fish on fly rod *- Must be a blue or striper during last Striperhead meeting. Thanks to Splinta. *Open wish: *A salmon on the fly _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: DVD Arriving Starting Monday
Don, you can tell them that number 13 will be calling with credit card info tomorrow. And they know there's no shipping charge???Tkx., mark. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] DVD Arriving Starting Monday Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:39:41 -0700 OK. At long last. Sorry for the delay, guys. Just got word from the copy production dept. The 1st set of 15 DVDs will be here on Monday and the next set soon after. So I would say it's OK to send checks now- #'s 2 through 30 only. I was reminded that on my previous email I said that the 1st 100 would be special edition, so I will honor that. Make personal check, money order, or cashier's check for $34.95 ($29.95 + $5 SH), to Don Ordes Mail to: Don Ordes Fantasy Fly Co. 1321 N. Buck Creek Rd. Casper WY 82604 Please show clearly your return mailing address If you are paying by credit card or PayPal, send me an email and I will get your DVD (SN#) over the the Platte Rver Fly Shop, http://www.wyomingflyfishing.com/ , and one of the people there will take your order and ship the DVD. (I do have to pay them a commission for this.) Once I have the Euro format, I'll probably also ship them through the PRFS to handle overseas payment and shipping. The list of the 1st 30 reserved DVDs: 02 Tony Spezio 03 Alan Di Somma 04 Larry Johnson 05 Jimi Eagle 06 Larry Carli 07 Mike Bliss 08 Bob Haering 09 Reuven Segal 10 Allan Fish 11 Rick Zieger 12 J Balmer 13 Mark Romero 14 Nick Runarsson 15 Peggy Brenner 16 Neville Gosling 17 Joe Fusco, Sr. (Tom Eckert needs Euro format (waiting) 19 Jeff Frye 20 Ashley Strutt 21 Henry Olhava 22 George Brett 23 Jim Dean 24 Dale Graham 25 Chuck Alexander 26 Ed Roden 27 JimForshey 28 Don Weeks 29 Peter Gramp 30 Bruce Whittle DonO _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
well there you go Rene.thankx Joe.you just saved me some time. Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:29:21 -0600 Subject: [VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle From: jfusc...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Rene - I have a new copy of Gordon's book that I would be willing to sell. Amazon is asking $22.95 (US) for it new and $19.95 (US) for a used copy. If you are interested, I would be willing to sell my copy for $15.00 (US) plus mailing costs. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com wrote: Rene, you need to get the Gordon McKenzie book. It's ALL about that. i have to go pick up Misa from a Damsely Girls meeting later, but before i sleep again.i'll post the publisher info, etc. Date: Thu, 12 you need to get the Gordon McKenzie bookNov 2009 21:37:18 +0100 From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now. _ Windows 7: Unclutter your desktop. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9690331ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: DVD Arriving Starting Monday
already saw the email.i was just goin' what you said before.maybe i got it wrong, but i thought you said no shipping charge. No biggie.it's only moneythey'll print more. Last thing i wanna do is drop dead with a fat bank account. yeah yeah yeah.i know..all bout a fool and his moneyblah blah blah blah blah..rotflmao. HEY! an armored car, don't follow a hearst. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: DVD Arriving Starting Monday Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:39:12 -0700 OK, Mark, but there will have to be a shipping charge ($5), or they will back-charge me. (see email below) I'll have roped fly samples in your box to make up for it. Don - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: DVD Arriving Starting Monday Don, you can tell them that number 13 will be calling with credit card info tomorrow. And they know there's no shipping charge???Tkx., mark. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] DVD Arriving Starting Monday Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:39:41 -0700 OK. At long last. Sorry for the delay, guys. Just got word from the copy production dept. The 1st set of 15 DVDs will be here on Monday and the next set soon after. So I would say it's OK to send checks now- #'s 2 through 30 only. I was reminded that on my previous email I said that the 1st 100 would be special edition, so I will honor that. Make personal check, money order, or cashier's check for $34.95 ($29.95 + $5 SH), to Don Ordes Mail to: Don Ordes Fantasy Fly Co. 1321 N. Buck Creek Rd. Casper WY 82604 Please show clearly your return mailing address If you are paying by credit card or PayPal, send me an email and I will get your DVD (SN#) over the the Platte Rver Fly Shop, http://www.wyomingflyfishing.com/ , and one of the people there will take your order and ship the DVD. (I do have to pay them a commission for this.) Once I have the Euro format, I'll probably also ship them through the PRFS to handle overseas payment and shipping. The list of the 1st 30 reserved DVDs: 02 Tony Spezio 03 Alan Di Somma 04 Larry Johnson 05 Jimi Eagle 06 Larry Carli 07 Mike Bliss 08 Bob Haering 09 Reuven Segal 10 Allan Fish 11 Rick Zieger 12 J Balmer 13 Mark Romero 14 Nick Runarsson 15 Peggy Brenner 16 Neville Gosling 17 Joe Fusco, Sr. (Tom Eckert needs Euro format (waiting) 19 Jeff Frye 20 Ashley Strutt 21 Henry Olhava 22 George Brett 23 Jim Dean 24 Dale Graham 25 Chuck Alexander 26 Ed Roden 27 JimForshey 28 Don Weeks 29 Peter Gramp 30 Bruce Whittle DonO http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now.BR _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: DVD Arriving Starting Monday
Don, if you could sign a personal or business card (on the FRONT), and put it in with the flies.i'd really apprciate that. TKX! And don't stick anything in the card.i have a very specific way i display flies whenever possible. You'll see when you come over. Tkx. again. mark. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: DVD Arriving Starting Monday Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:39:12 -0700 OK, Mark, but there will have to be a shipping charge ($5), or they will back-charge me. (see email below) I'll have roped fly samples in your box to make up for it. Don - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: DVD Arriving Starting Monday Don, you can tell them that number 13 will be calling with credit card info tomorrow. And they know there's no shipping charge???Tkx., mark. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] DVD Arriving Starting Monday Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:39:41 -0700 OK. At long last. Sorry for the delay, guys. Just got word from the copy production dept. The 1st set of 15 DVDs will be here on Monday and the next set soon after. So I would say it's OK to send checks now- #'s 2 through 30 only. I was reminded that on my previous email I said that the 1st 100 would be special edition, so I will honor that. Make personal check, money order, or cashier's check for $34.95 ($29.95 + $5 SH), to Don Ordes Mail to: Don Ordes Fantasy Fly Co. 1321 N. Buck Creek Rd. Casper WY 82604 Please show clearly your return mailing address If you are paying by credit card or PayPal, send me an email and I will get your DVD (SN#) over the the Platte Rver Fly Shop, http://www.wyomingflyfishing.com/ , and one of the people there will take your order and ship the DVD. (I do have to pay them a commission for this.) Once I have the Euro format, I'll probably also ship them through the PRFS to handle overseas payment and shipping. The list of the 1st 30 reserved DVDs: 02 Tony Spezio 03 Alan Di Somma 04 Larry Johnson 05 Jimi Eagle 06 Larry Carli 07 Mike Bliss 08 Bob Haering 09 Reuven Segal 10 Allan Fish 11 Rick Zieger 12 J Balmer 13 Mark Romero 14 Nick Runarsson 15 Peggy Brenner 16 Neville Gosling 17 Joe Fusco, Sr. (Tom Eckert needs Euro format (waiting) 19 Jeff Frye 20 Ashley Strutt 21 Henry Olhava 22 George Brett 23 Jim Dean 24 Dale Graham 25 Chuck Alexander 26 Ed Roden 27 JimForshey 28 Don Weeks 29 Peter Gramp 30 Bruce Whittle DonO http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ' target='_new'Sign up now.BR _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
J.B., if fishing were outlawed.that'd just gimme more time to tye. From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:08:16 -0600 Or how long would fly tying as a business lastJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45 AM To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our stream fishing last? Art Flick Streamside Guide [1947] º *JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT-FREE Classic Antique Golf Club EvaluationAuthor - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret.Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/11/09 07:40:00 _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Jeff
Your welcome Jeff. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:32:42 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Thanks for that information, Paul. I am going to pick up that Mandel and Johnson book for about $20. Photos should be terrific, as I see Jim Schollmeyer was the shooter. I am curious what folks use for plastic tubes, metal tubes and for junction tubing. I am not going to save much money buying a lot of specialized tubes from Eumer. It would be cheaper in a lot of cases to just buy hooks. I have a good supply for tungsten coneheads at a great price and a big stash of tungsten beads. Also does anybody have suggestions on Mustad hooks? Are circle hooks a good idea for these? I knew I was going to hit the gold mine of information here as usual. And I was able to get Paul Marriner off the bench! Thanks again - Original Message From: Paul pm...@tallships.ca To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:24:58 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) Jeff While a little dated, Mandel Johnson's Tube Flies will give you plenty to chew on for a whole lot less money than the Sawada book. Here's part of an article I wrote on plastic tube flies. There is also a vast variety of metal tubes. One advantage not mentioned below---may not apply to you---is that if you fish both barbed and barbless hooks, either through choice or regulation, one only needs half as many flies because the fly is separated from the hook. Advantage Tubes • Cost: Plastic tubes are dirt cheap; the ones I use cost less than one cent each. One needs only a few hooks for thousands of flies. Moreover, an array of hook styles can be replaced by several styles is a few sizes. • Weight (1): Plastic tubes are light, making them easier to cast than flies on large hooks and avoiding those nasty raps in the back of the head when a gust knocks down a backcast. • Weight (2): Very cold water may dampen the taking enthusiasm of some species, making it essential to get the fly down with sinking or sink- tip lines. Then, heavy hooks may catch the bottom; plastic tubes ride higher. With tubes I have noticed a considerable reduction in the number of my flies contributed to the bottom’s decor. • Hooking (1): I believe long-shank hooks can lever themselves loose during an extended battle. Tubes use short-shank hooks and the tube rides up the leader after hooking-up. In my experience they retain an excellent hold. • Hooking (2): I admit to reaching somewhat here, but it seems to me that using tubes has reduced the number of lightly-hooked fish.. • Versatility: Tubes are incredibly versatile. One can make a half- inch fly by cutting a tube or a ten-inch fly by stringing several tubes together; no need to mess with tandems. Some folks are under the impression that tube patterns must be tied in the round; this is false.. Standard patterns are easily tied and, with the hook and wing providing stability, orient themselves properly. • Tying ease: Although not a big deal, some patterns are easier to tie on tubes due to the increased space at the rear of the tube. • Storage: Forget expensive fly-boxes (unless you want to buy a special tube box from the UK), a simple plastic box with divided compartments is all one needs. Oh yes, and say goodbye to barbless hooks falling out of a fly-patch. Just throw the wet fly in the box and open the lid at the end of the day—nothing to rust. Liabilities • Although someone will surely argue with me, I consider tubes to be useful only for the equivalent of a standard size 10 or larger hook. I’m speaking here of shank length. Some of my smallest tubes are mated to size 14 hooks. • Inexpensive plastic tubes have a larger diameter than most hook wires; thus you will use more of any wrapped material for each fly. Regardless, smaller diameter plastic tubing is available, just not as cheaply or easily. Paul Marriner Outdoor Writing Photography. Owner: Gale's End Press. Member: OWAA OWC. Author of: (NEW) Atlantic Salmon: A Fly Fishing Reference, A Compendium of Canadian Fly Patterns (co-author), Stillwater Fly Fishing: Tools Tactics, How to Choose Use Fly-tying Thread, Modern Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi River Journal, Ausable River Journal, and Atlantic Salmon. On Nov 10, 6:20 pm, Jeff Frye bighawk...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: 1. list me what they see to be the
[VFB] Re: Jeff
There's a couple pages bout Tube flies in the very back of the Fly Tying Bible. Heck if you can find a fly shop that has a copy, you could just hang out and read it in the store. You shoulda got to Roscoe before Poul Jorgensen passed away.he was always tyin' Tubesi coulda took you over to his house. Well.mostly i use saddle hackle.i mean more than anything else. But i'll use anything that has long enough fibers. Different pheasent feathers (all the different pheasents), waterfowl feathers, anything.log as the feather's fibers will fit whatever i'm tryin to do based on hooks size. That's all that really matters and of course good materials. Whiting produces the BEST hackle on the planet..chicken hacklewether that be rooster necks, and saddles, or hen backs, saddles, anything off a chicken rooster OR hen. You got Whiting, and then there's everybody else. i use a lotta their dyed Grizzley saddles. And plain white saddle hackle that's been dyed all the colors, also Whiting. And i use a lotta Guinea..all kinna differnet Guinea, different species and most of it dyed. But i use it natural too. ooppss, i c u used the word bargin.well, Whiting is expensive, by comparison.but you get what you pay for.i hear Denny will be back for Sowbug again this year so..try Conranch. Contact him ahead of time and see if he can bring what you need. Save shipping. Two of my favorite words in the English language.specially when put side by side, lmao.save shipping. Denny has good stuff at good prices. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:00:29 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Jeff To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark, it is out of print and sold out on their web site. Thanks for passing that along. I think the Tube Flies book is well suited to what I want. I'm mostly looking for a primer on how this stuff works so I can adapt bass flies to tubes. I would be interested in knowing what you hackle with to get those long flowing hackles and colors. Anything that's a bargain would be cool. As always, thanks for your help. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:56:17 AM Subject: [VFB] Jeff Jeff, here's what you need. Tube Waddington Fly Dressing Dressed, Photographed Instructed by Kenichiro Sawada Publihed by Tulchan Books, a division of Sawada's Inc. 3-13-4 Minamicho, Kokubunji, Tokyo 185 Japan i can mail you a Tulchan Books catalog if you like.send address Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod?
From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:31:04 -0700 Iain, those things are so gullable. lol OK, we have so far: Cottonmouth- JimmyD Owl- JimmyD (bear don't count unless you hooked him) bat- DonO Herring Gull- Iain This would make for a neat article on Byard's website, if he'd ever upgrade it. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: [VFB] Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? OK, I'll start the thread. Besides trout, I've fished for all kinds of panfish, largemouth, smallmouth, guadalupe, and spotted bass, salt water blues and speckled trout Yeah, and I've hooked a few tires, rods and reels, trotlines, etc. Caught one cottonmouth and gave my boat to him, while I walked on water to get to the bank. and lest I forget, there was that Owl I hooked on the Rayado, and the young black bear who stole my tippet, fly and my big brown. :-D JIMMY D Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a neat idea for a new thread. What non-fish (or very non-standard fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO -- _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod?
Don.don't hold your breath..lmao... From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:15:38 -0700 OK, we have so far: Cottonmouth Owl (bear don't count unless you hooked him) bat This would make for a neat article on Byard's website, if he'd ever upgrade it. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: [VFB] Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? OK, I'll start the thread. Besides trout, I've fished for all kinds of panfish, largemouth, smallmouth, guadalupe, and spotted bass, salt water blues and speckled trout Yeah, and I've hooked a few tires, rods and reels, trotlines, etc. Caught one cottonmouth and gave my boat to him, while I walked on water to get to the bank. and lest I forget, there was that Owl I hooked on the Rayado, and the young black bear who stole my tippet, fly and my big brown. :-D JIMMY D Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a neat idea for a new thread. What non-fish (or very non-standard fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P J Balmer wrote: Or how long would fly tying as a business lastJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45 AM To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our stream fishing last? Art Flick Streamside Guide [1947] º *JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT-FREE Classic Antique Golf Club EvaluationAuthor - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret.Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/11/09 07:40:00 -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º BR _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
i caught a Bat once...also at dusk.i had my back to the water, because i was gonna make one last cast, but just in case i did hook up, i wanted to be sure where my camera was, and i had left it on a rock behind me. So i turn to pin point where the camera is, and then i turn to make the cast and lift the line, and something is on there. And it's actin' very weird.like it wants to get off the waterand it DOES get off the water..so i finally get it to where i can tell what it is...and it was weird. So i reeled in just enough to leave bout three feet of leaded outside the tip top and i hold the line against the rod and just start makin' swirls in a circle until the thing finally pops off. i did NOT wanna get close enough to cut the leaded. i'll never know if i foul hooked it or if it actually took the fly...?...This all happened just above Wullf Run.slightly upstream of the CFFCM, right by where Elm Hollow Brook comes in, on the Willow. Willowemoc Creek...my all-time favorite medium sized Freestoner.. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:39:07 -0700 If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a neat idea for a new thread. What non-fish (or very non-standard fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P J Balmer wrote: Or how long would fly tying as a business lastJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45 AM To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our stream fishing last? Art Flick Streamside Guide [1947] º *JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT-FREE Classic Antique Golf Club EvaluationAuthor - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret.Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/11/09 07:40:00 -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º BR _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod?
J.B.e funny. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:55:36 -0700 Jay Balmer. LOL Did you put up a good fight? Jeff, gotta tell us how you caught it. DonO OK, we have so far: Cottonmouth- JimmyD Owl- JimmyD (bear don't count unless you hooked him) bat- DonO, Mark R. Herring Gull- Iain Canada Goose- TonyS Freshwater Eel- JeffF Turkey, as in self-hooked -JayB This would make for a neat article on Byard's website, if he'd ever upgrade it. DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: [VFB] Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? OK, I'll start the thread. Besides trout, I've fished for all kinds of panfish, largemouth, smallmouth, guadalupe, and spotted bass, salt water blues and speckled trout Yeah, and I've hooked a few tires, rods and reels, trotlines, etc. Caught one cottonmouth and gave my boat to him, while I walked on water to get to the bank. and lest I forget, there was that Owl I hooked on the Rayado, and the young black bear who stole my tippet, fly and my big brown. :-D JIMMY D Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a neat idea for a new thread. What non-fish (or very non-standard fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO -- BR _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod?
New nickname for DonO, Gunga Din.j/k.both cool stories Don. From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:14:24 -0700 I'll add another Fishing with Jerry Goldsmith in Banana River mangroves for juvie tarpon. Juvie 3' alligator swims out to check out the surface-fly commotion. So I cast across his nose and sure enough he grabs the fly and gets hooked. Not much of a fight, but I 'landed' him, and he broke off as I was trying to haul him up un shore. DonO _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Lastest DVD SN list
Don.is that THE, George Brett? i bet Kevin Slater woud also like to have the DVD.i'll sound him. He'll be stayin' with us durin' Sowbug. You know yet when they'll be at the fly shop for ordering/shippment? From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Lastest DVD SN list Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:33:09 -0700 The DVD list so far, please make sure you are on the list if you ordered one. 01 Cheryl Ordes 02 Tony Spezio 03 Alan Di Somma 04 Larry Johnson 05 Byard Miller 06 Larry Carli 07 Mike Bliss 08 Bob Haering 09 Reuven Segal 10 Allan Fish 11 Rick Zieger 12 J Balmer 13 Mark Romero 14 Nick Runarsson 15 Peggy Brenner 16 Neville Gosling 17 Joe Fusco, Sr. 18 Thomas Eckert 19 Jeff Frye 20 Ashley Strutt 21 Henry Olhava 22 George Brett 23 Jim Dean 24 Dale Graham 25 Chuck Alexander 26 Ed Roden 27 Jim Forshey 28 Jimi Desert Eagle 29 Deb Duran 30 - _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Lastest DVD SN list
Sounds like a bit more than a hobby...smart investment. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:19:48 -0800 From: bighawk...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Lastest DVD SN list To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Mark, I own over 3000 George Brett baseball cards. My hobby before fly fishing. From: Mark Romero markflie...@hotmail.com To: virtual fly box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:51:22 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Lastest DVD SN list Don.is that THE, George Brett? i bet Kevin Slater woud also like to have the DVD.i'll sound him. He'll be stayin' with us durin' Sowbug. You know yet when they'll be at the fly shop for ordering/shippment? From: f...@tribcsp.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Lastest DVD SN list Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:33:09 -0700 The DVD list so far, please make sure you are on the list if you ordered one. 01 Cheryl Ordes 02 Tony Spezio 03 Alan Di Somma 04 Larry Johnson 05 Byard Miller 06 Larry Carli 07 Mike Bliss 08 Bob Haering 09 Reuven Segal 10 Allan Fish 11 Rick Zieger 12 J Balmer 13 Mark Romero 14 Nick Runarsson 15 Peggy Brenner 16 Neville Gosling 17 Joe Fusco, Sr. 18 Thomas Eckert 19 Jeff Frye 20 Ashley Strutt 21 Henry Olhava 22 George Brett 23 Jim Dean 24 Dale Graham 25 Chuck Alexander 26 Ed Roden 27 Jim Forshey 28 Jimi Desert Eagle 29 Deb Duran 30 - _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod?
at least not in the park.rotflmao.always knew you were a smart thinker Mikespecially in terms of, Choices. lmao.no pain, no gainlol Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:29:58 -1000 Subject: [VFB] Re: Was: QUOTE FOR THE DAY, Now - what other non-fish and other species do you fish for w/flyrod? From: flyfish...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To all: I was fishing the green drake hatch on the Yellowstone and caught a beautiful big cutthroat. As I was playing him a pelican landed and came swimming down the river. I decided to stop playing the fish and let the pelican pass as I had a bad feeling. The fish went calm and all was well until the pelican got close to the fish. The fish panicked and darted. I would never have imagined a pelican could move so fast. Now I had a pelican on my line. He took off. Now I panicked as all the line I had was rapidly leaving the reel. As it hit the backing I dropped the rod grabbed the line and held on hoping that the break would occur at the tippet and not some more critical place - and I did not want the pelican - at least not in the park. (I wonder how pelican feathers are to tie with?) The line did break at the tippet and I was able to get my line back. A couple across the river were laughing so hard tears were flowing. The only other thing weird I hooked was me. Actually, a brownie somehow got me back as I released him. It buried the hook past the barb in my hand. As luck would have it, this was one hook I had forgotten to flatten the barb. The hook was in my right hand and I am right handed. I sat there wondering do I try and push it through, go to the hospital or yank it out. I was just getting started and the fishing was really good so forget the hospital. Now push it through or yank. I was not comfortable with the possibilities of trying to push it through with my left hand and I had nothing to cut off the barb if I did. So I attached the forceps to the hook and holding them with the left hand I pulled my right hand away. It was quite bloody but the cold water helped and I was able to continue fishing all the while bleeding on my grip. I promised myself not to forget to pinch the barbs anymore. Mike On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: Don, I can offer: tie a cat. Bait was an eel. We caught the eel with a worm (Well, in those dark days, trillions of years ago.,.), and when we tried to unhook the eel, a cat took the eel and run away. We played the eel for 2 or 3 minutes, but finally broke off. Never got eel, worm or hook back. My brother: Hooked him on a windy day with a lure. We were not able to remove the hook from the backside of his head. The first doctor was not able to help us, we went to the hospital, and they called all doctors and nurses to the room, to see those crazies. Finally they helped us to remove the hook and inoculate my bro. Pickled fish: Ok, that was not me, but a neighbor took my nod, and knotted the can to the line. I remember being out for a fresh can of beer. Rene Don Ordes wrote: OK, we have so far: Cottonmouth Owl (bear don't count unless you hooked him) bat This would make for a neat article on Byard's website, if he'd ever upgrade it. DonO -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
J.B., are you commin' down for the Sowbug? i sure hope so. even if you aint a Yankees fan, lmao From: jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:51:30 -0600 I remembered another bird, it was a swallow on a dry fly. Ok, I caught the following, but not on a fly, they were on light spinning gear; Freshwater clam. Caught on a spoon fishing for stripers on Lake Pepin, the Wisconsin side. I have a picture somewhere... Seagull, on a tandem spinner. Snapping turtle on a red devil. A friend of mine caught his own ear w/ a worm on a hook. It was hilarious taking him to the hospital on the bus, hook, worm bobber dangling from his ear when we were in h.s. I told him he had to leave the bobber attached to avoid damaging his ear:) -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Lehman Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:25 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY 1: 4 foot alligator in Naples Florida. Fishing for bluegill with a popper. I knew gators were there but didn't see him until he took the popper from beneath. Billfish rules apply. If you can get your hand on the leader its called a catch and you can break him off. 2: Seagull that took an EP streamer on the backcast turnover while fishing for red snapper in the Gulf. Hooked him in the foot. He just sat down on the water and glared at us until we pulled him to the boat, wrapped him in a towel and released him. 3: A dragonfly took a small nymph at the end of a puddle cast while fishing Austin Lady Bird lake for sunfish. He ended up spinning the tippet around himself so bad I couldn't save him. I won the best liar category in the Austin Fly Fishers Perchmaster's Classic tournament. Jack Austin Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a /neat idea/ for a new thread. What *non-fish* (or very /non-standard/ fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO - Original Message - *From:* Jimmy D. Moore mailto:ray...@earthlink.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:17 AM *Subject:* [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P J Balmer wrote: Or how long would fly tying as a business lastJ *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy D. Moore *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45 AM *To:* Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers *Subject:* [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY When you are next complaining about the selectivity of trout, bear the thought in mind: were it not for this fortunate trait, how long would our stream fishing last? Art Flick Streamside Guide [1947] º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/11/09 07:40:00 -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout
[VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
i got hung up in a tree once.(very near where i caught that Bat that time, right at the mouth of Elm Hollow Brook on the Willow), and game outta the tree with two flies. i hadda climb up (sorta halfway to get a limb down), to get them both. Also caught my biggest Brookie ever, (4 lbs. 7 oz.), twice on two consecutive cast.lost him right at the net the first time and then caught him again on the very next cast...real small pool on the Connetquot River on Long Island, beat 10 i think it was. Friend i was with had a scale in his priest. This Trout was a searun fresh back from the Atlantic. Misa got a Searun Bow (Steelie) that day as well.hers was double the size of mine...unreal fish.but the Connetquot is a magical place. Oldest hatchery in New York is right in the middle of the river.at beat 15. It's all a state park now and has been for some time.but originally it was a private preserve for ONLY the Mega Rick Cats who worked in Manhattan and partied on Long Island. Somehow the state took it over or inhareited it. We fished there up to 4 times a year from 1992 til 2006.or '07, i forget. Always caught 50/60 fish a day there.no problem. My biggest Brown ever, 26 inches, came outta there as well. Some beats you can get a fish on almost every cast. From: niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:01:56 +0100 None-fish: * A 4 frog (or toad) taking one of the left-over flies from my first swap. Slimiest catch of mine. * A dragonfly. The failed underhand cast made the fly hit the bushes right next to me, where he sat. None-animal: * Going deep for grayling I got stuck. After moving so I could pull from another angle, I managed to save the fly... which had become a tandem fly. It had caught up in a 'NoName' streamer (or something) from the bottom. And since I didn't lose any of my own that time, it's now saved as a memory of the day when I left the water with MORE flies than I had when I came. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Jack Lehman Skickat: den 11 november 2009 21:25 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Wierd Catches was QUOTE FOR THE DAY 1: 4 foot alligator in Naples Florida. Fishing for bluegill with a popper. I knew gators were there but didn't see him until he took the popper from beneath. Billfish rules apply. If you can get your hand on the leader its called a catch and you can break him off. 2: Seagull that took an EP streamer on the backcast turnover while fishing for red snapper in the Gulf. Hooked him in the foot. He just sat down on the water and glared at us until we pulled him to the boat, wrapped him in a towel and released him. 3: A dragonfly took a small nymph at the end of a puddle cast while fishing Austin Lady Bird lake for sunfish. He ended up spinning the tippet around himself so bad I couldn't save him. I won the best liar category in the Austin Fly Fishers Perchmaster's Classic tournament. Jack Austin Don Ordes wrote: If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P JimmyD Jimmy, this is a /neat idea/ for a new thread. What *non-fish* (or very /non-standard/ fish target) have you caught on a fly, and what's the story? People who complain there's no neat threads about fly-fishing, here's your chance. If you don't have a personal account, look up internet stories on strange creature fly-fishing encounters and post those. It doesn't have to be an intensional catch, even accidental counts. I can think of at least a half-dozen weird things I've caught on flies. 1. A bat. About 20 yrs ago, fishing at dusk, I hung a fly up in a tree branch, with the fly dangling over the river. I was going to try to flick the fly off the branch when a bat swooped down and hit the fly. He foul-hooked in his shoulder- mayby at the last second sensing the leader. Little guy was REALLY mad when I 'landed' him. Safe CR, though. DonO - Original Message - *From:* Jimmy D. Moore mailto:ray...@earthlink.net *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:17 AM *Subject:* [VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY If all the trout in the world suddenly disappeared, I know a bunch of folks who'd go right on with their fly tying as though nothing happened. :-P J Balmer wrote: Or how long would fly tying as a business lastJ *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy D. Moore *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:45 AM *To:* Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers *Subject:* [VFB]
