Re: [VFB] My 2 cents Re: Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap
Don No hurry on my end. Your health is far more important. Get well. Regards Mel Hocken From: Neville Gosling Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 1:30 PM To: VFB Subject: [VFB] My 2 cents Re: Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap Sorry to learn of your continued medical problems. Don’t give up on the long term as I am sure that you will eventually get there. I am in absolutely no hurry; in fact, I don’t even need the swap flies. Your health is more important to me than that. When you announced this swap, I really thought that you were recovering ok from your stroke but it now seems you have dealt another blow. I’m sure you will get there Don, but it is going to take longer than you, I or the rest of the swappers figured. Take time to heal first. I want you to concentrate on getting better and don’t worry about the swap at all. That’s my 2 cents Neville (Nev) Gosling On May 19, 2019, at 1:04 PM, DonO wrote: To all pink squirrel swappers. So sorry to make you wait so long. My hand is finally coming around to where I can tie once more. Tried a few times – awful and slow results. 2 min fly takes an hour plus. Very slow recovery from a couple of nightmare nerve pain medications – side effect almost killed me. But I Can finally hold the bobbin again, with the sleeves. The long-term is still questionable except for pain. But I am still trying. Trying a new therapy- promising results. Alan has offered to finish the swap for me, but I’d like to finish it, as it will probably be my last swap. Pl ease let me know what you want me to do. Regards, DonO From: Tony Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:06 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra? Thanks you all, I feel humble. Tony On Sunday, January 27, 2019, 3:51:34 PM CST, Chuck Alexander wrote: Sounds good to me, Chuck From: 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:18 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra? Or just not get one of our own back. Rick -- From: DonO To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info- one extra? Hi Tony, nice to hear from you. I figured you were busy with health issues and silent because you didn’t need another swap to stress you out. So sorry about that. Thanks for the info and for being around for us. Sure hope you’ve gotten ahead of this new problem in time. Will keep you in my prayers. I can maybe send you a group of extra PSQN flies if that would work for you. I’ll bet the guys won’t have a problem tying one more for you. Eh Guys, 19 instead of 18? One for the Tiger? DonO From: 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:07 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info Been following this. Wish I was able to do it. Right now I am too tied up with doctors. Have therapists and nurses that are here every day of the week for therapy and to bandage wounds that have now appeared on my other foot. That is the same as started on my left foot that lead to amputation. Arkansas Tony On Saturday, January 26, 2019, 3:32:40 PM CST, Chuck Alexander wrote: Don: Look at bright side. As long as I’m in the swap, the worst you could do is second to last LOL. Seriously, hope to rope dub mine, Chuck From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of DonO Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:32 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info Welcome all to the fly swap and thank you. I will do my best on my batch and hopefully I can tie something worthy to toss at fish. Hope to create & post a fly plate photo when done. Cheers, Don From: DonO Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:00 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap-Swp info Mail flies to: 14505 N. Presidio Loop, Nampa ID 83651 SASE or equal. Add toe-tags. Don From: DonO Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 8:48 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Pink Squirrel Nymph Swap- Final Swapper List etc. Not too late Donna- you’re spot #18. ;o) See list below. Since VFB traffic is not an issue nowadays, do y’all want to keep swap correspondence on list, or take it off. All posts for the swap will have the subject line PSQN SWAP. So we have 18 flies due by Feb. 28th. Does that work? Can submit extras or design efforts for charitable donations. Rest of details to follow shortly. Don From: Donna Crowell Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 7:34 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Sign-up list UPDATE #6- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel N
Re: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph
It has been a long time since I posted anything on VFB. Anyway DonO you can add me to the Pink Squirrel Swap. Regards Mel Hocken From: J Balmer Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:15 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph I’ve never fished for a pink squirrel, or even a gray or red one, but I guess I’m in… J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of DonO Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 9:12 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Sign-up list-- 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph Tiers: 1. Rick Zieger 2. Allan Fish 3. Neville Gosling 4. Chuck Alexander 5. Don Ordes 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. I will type out final details once the swap is officially filled. Nice seeing all these names again. DonO From: DonO Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:14 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] 1st Swap, 2019 - Pink Squirrel Nymph Howdy All, I am still in stroke recovery, but able to do more all the time- just need to keep my energy up. I found an interesting fly on the internet that would be a good candidate for a swap. It’s called a Pink Squirrel Nymph. Many of you are aware of it and have probably fished it. If you have fished it, a story can be added. Even crawfish like this pattern! Ye Rooles: (for IOFFers) 1. Role call for who’s still here- swapping or not. 2. List of those interested in swapping this easy and much-liked pattern. 3. Lots of photos on a search of images 4. Broad range of quarry fish 5. Very east tie, easily adaptable to rope-dubbing if you choose 6. Size 16 – 8 all one size or varied, style hook can vary 7. Gray body (your choice of dubbing), pink collar (any material suited for a collar per the photo archives) 8. Gold or silver bead 9. Any customization in keeping with the basic pattern 10 Number of swappers to dictate size of swap 11. Standard swap rules apply: toe tags, return SASE (some sort of pkg.) or Cash for return of flies. Recipes not needed unless you did something special. (Story?) Any extra flies will be donated to good charity. Will post a photo of all designs. Google images should pick it up. All comments welcome. Easy tie, great fly (famous even), lots of variations with a common theme. Any VFB swappers left? Will give it a couple of weeks for distance lurkers to check in. Maybe we’ll have a good-ol’ days VFB Swap. Cheers, DonO -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VFB Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.
Re: [VFB] Spinning Deer Hair
Mike when it comes to working with deer hair or similar hair(elk moose etc) the most knowledgeable person I know in that area of fly tying is Jack Dennis. If you can find some of his books or videos you will learn a ton of info. At one time Jack used to tie commercially and his deer hair flys were top notch. Hope this helps. Mel - Original Message - From: Mike To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 8:09 PM Subject: [VFB] Spinning Deer Hair I'm getting ready to learn to spin deer hair and have a question. When spinning deer hair, do you use deer body hair or deer belly hair? Thanks in advance. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???
Chuck I used to dye a lot of materials, both fur, feathers as wellas natural and some synthetic yarns. The first step is to be sure the material to be dyed is clean and free of grease and oils. I used to use dish washing soap.Be sure to rinse the soap completely away. Temperature control is critical because if you get the dye solution to hot you can cook the hair right off the hide or ruin a nice cape. I tryed to keep my dye bath at at 125 degrees. I have used tintex, rit, dylon and veniard dye. They all had pluses and minuses. With all types black was the most difficult to dye. I found you needed to mix the black dye bath 2 to 4 times stronger than recomended. I always used vinegar to set the dye. With black and some of the other more difficult colors I would not add the vinegar until I had achieved, close to the color saturation I required. I recommend only dying a small amounts to start with. I have many friends who ruined a lot of materials because they went at it like a commercial opperation. Keep notes on anything you try. I do not dye many materials these days as it seems everything is available commercially, much easier to buy the finished material. Regards Mel Hocken - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:21 AM Subject: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ??? Folks: Can anybody give me the “secret” to dying feathers (and/or fabric) with Rit dye?? What happened is that my son had some dark purple demin material he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the three gallons or so of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde the salt but not the vinegar as it said to only use the vinegar with salt if the material is silk or wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a boil, then let it soak all day. Still just came out a darker purple and NIT jet black like the dye is. Now is my problem in that. He saved the water as I have a ton of grizzly feathers, but hardly any black, so I was just going to sye a grizzly neck in that same dye water mix after he finished. But I don’t want the grizzly to go from black and white, to purple ad white. Any tips?? Should I add vinegar?? Thanks, Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Are we too Old? SURVEY
Mel Hocken Still poking around Not as old as Nev Gosling - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: ray...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: [VFB] Are we too Old? SURVEY Ok, young and old farts, (VFB'ers). lets do one of My well known VFB surveys. OK?? Could be fun. Add your name. Could also liven things up a little and age below: JIMMY D Just fall in line, don't be embarrassed . :-! Jimmy D. 77 :-P Tony Spezio -- Denny Conrad-- Allan fish-- AND THE LIST GROWS AND GROWS. Allan Fish wrote: On 8/5/14, 9:16 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail wrote: Guess you are saying I am onew of the old guys, since I am on VFB. Rick No, Rick, -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Storage organization of materials
Nev You failed to mention you have enough fly tying materials, hooks and tools to open a fully stocked fly shop. Mel - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 6:00 PM Subject: [VFB] Storage organization of materials One of the pleasant problems of living in British Columbia is the diverse fishing opportunities that it offers the fly fisherman. I start my season in March April tying chironomid or buzzers as they are known in the UK. This is lake fishing for rainbow trout with usually starts late April for me. Hook sizes from 12 to 18 with 14 the most common. As the season progresses, the rivers which in the early season are high due to seasonal snowmelt drop and river fishing for rainbows and bull trout dolly varden come into season. This requires weighted flies such as stoneflies and prince nymphs for the rainbows and large heavily weighted attractor flies for the bull trout. Later as the rivers drop further, the opportunity for fishing the dry fly comes usually in sizes 12-16 while smaller lighter nymphs soft hackles are also useful. When August comes around, the opportunity for summer run steelhead occur in mid northern BC, and another lot of flies are required from surface skaters to wet flies, intruders and tube flies dependant upon conditions. Also, at this time of the year, there are runs of pink (every 2nd year) chinook salmon in the ocean which require different flies from very small to very large. October is coho salmon time in the rivers, and again the most suitable flies are usually a different size and style. Finally, in the winter, there are winter run steelhead which generally require large attractor flies fished deep. I do very little of this, because don't like taking a rock to stand on! As a result, in the past 40 odd years of fly tying, I have built up more tying materials than I have room for, but I never have exactly what I need to tie the particular fly that has caught my eye for a certain fish or application. How do you store your materials? How do you find the materials that you need right now? How do you keep them organized? I have tried various ways i.e. by material type - synthetics, foam, fur feathers etc. - By excel spreadsheet and numbered plastic shoe type boxes, sets of numbered plastic drawers - but it is still less than satisfactory. I try to organize my fly boxes by fly and fish type, with one large drawer of trout fly boxes with sub categories for chironomid, dries, nymphs etc and another drawer for steelhead and salmon flies. My fly tying tools also need more organization as I can never seem to find what I want without a search sometimes, not even then. I would appreciate any ideas that the list members have. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] Lost my beloved dog and fishing partner Peanut today after nearly 15 yrs.
Chuck Sorry about the passing of Peanut. I know how deeply a dog can dig its way into one's heart. They are the truest of friends, enriching our lives in so many ways. My sincerest condolence for the loss of Peanut. Regards Mel Hocken - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: Cheaper Living ; fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:22 PM Subject: [VFB] Lost my beloved dog and fishing partner Peanut today after nearly 15 yrs. Folks: It’s been a pretty rough day or two (more like week or two) for us well. I lost my beloved dog, and fishing partner Chihuahua “Peanut” today at about 2pm this afternoon. Any time we hitched up the boat, or started loading fishing gear into the car, she thought she HAD to go with us. She had a cancer that started in her hips/spine. then spread to her intestines,and her lymph nodes in her neck. And she was 15 yrs old, which is VERY old for just about any breed of dog, even those like Chihuahua's that tend to live long lives. You KNOW in your head they cannot live forever, but you hope in your heart that they will got get when she was 5 weeks old back on the about the 4th of July weekend. She had those tumors, but they said she basically just “died of old age”. That is the one think thing that makes us feel better is because she did lave a LONG, happy life, and was hardly ever sick a day in her life. She would have turned 15 this June 8th. All the Vets could do was to make her comfortable, as I didn’t want to have to put her to sleep unless she was in a lot of pain. They had her on pain meds and steroids, and that made her last days a LOT better, but it’s close like losing a kid to me and my wife as we had her longer than any dog in our lives. Attached is a pic of her and I out fishing near the “jetties” in Panama City Bch FL in the Fall of 1999 when she was just a little puppy. Chuck -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [VFB] RE:Weathet
Talked to my brother in Edson Alberta this morning. The temperature is -48 with the wind chill. Need a super hi density line to get through the ice. Mel Hocken - Original Message - From: wayneb22...@yahoo.com To: virtual flybox Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 3:07 PM Subject: [VFB] RE:Weathet Hi All; With the latest weather working across the US, how is everyone doing? Should be hitting my area (Washington DC area) with freezing rain then snow starting 3am tomorrow. Wayneb Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VFB Mail group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to vfb-mail+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[VFB] New email address
To all I have a new email address as I have changed internet providers. softhac...@telus.net Regards Mel Hocken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Missing things
Nev All those missing things are with your truck keys. Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: Vfb-Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37 AM Subject: [VFB] Missing things I just emptied my small canister wet/dry vac because I accidentally sucked up a large paper kitchen towel and thought that it might cause a blockage. Besides, I haven't emptied the vac since I purchased it two or three months ago. The paper filter was well clogged up with a mass of fur like substance. bits of fly tying materials etc., but as I looked in the bottom of the canister, there was my brassie for pushing hair when tying muddlers etc. This after loosing a favourite genuine Matarelli whip finisher, that probably fell off the desk where I tie my flies and landed in the waste paper basket below without my knowledge. One almost needs to take out a mortgage to buy a replacement Matarelli, so I settled on a Griffin copy. Now, if I could only find my curved Anvil scissors that disappeared last week I would have it made in the shade. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Cleaning dye pans
I use the glass Pyrex containers. They clean easily with soap and water. Can be placed on a heat source to keep the dye solution hot if necessary. If used properly will last a life time or two. I have gotten to a stage in my life where I try not to use anything disposable. This can be hard to accomplish sometimes because in North America we live in a disposable society. Just look at all the fast food containers that litter the landscape. Mel - Original Message - From: Joyce M Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Cleaning dye pans I use disposable, one use food type pans, like rubbermaid or even the cheapies that cost one dollar each at the dollar store. I use one for each color I'm dying, and when they crack or get decrepid, throw them out. Saves time in the long run. Joyce On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 8:29 AM, ashley strutt galeforce1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello is there anyone out there? Quick question, my dye pans a little negleted and not cleaned very well and I need to do some dying. What do others use to clean up their dye pans? Ashley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Chinese fur farms...
MeddelandeAbsolutely horrific. Just goes to show that humans are the most evil animal on the planet. Mel - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Chinese fur farms... That's just sickening. - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 11:31 AM Subject: [VFB] Chinese fur farms... Stumbled upon a video today that made me curious about my own tying material. Watching something like that can make you wish that murder got legalized in certain places. http://features.peta.org/ChineseFurFarms/ (Varning though. If you think the text in the article makes your stomach twist, maybe you don't want to see the video.) /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: Bleaching Possum or other naturals
Wayne You need to use a solution of peroxide. The same chemical hair dressers use when bleaching women's hair. There are several books and magazine articles which contain directions for bleaching. A.K. Best has a good book on dying and bleaching materials. Mel - Original Message - From: Wayne Blake-Hedges To: virtual flybox Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: [VFB] RE: Bleaching Possum or other naturals Hi All; The recent thread got me wondering, how do you bleach a natural material white? Thanks in advance; Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Mele Kalikimaka
Merry Christmas from Canada Best wishes to all for the New Year Mel - Original Message - From: Michael Bliss To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 9:03 PM Subject: [VFB] Mele Kalikimaka Wishing one and all a wonderful Christmas and a prosperous New Year Mike -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comnorthernlights.jpg
Re: [VFB] Not for the queasy!
Larry I don't think we gave them away so much as they were taken away. Our parlementarians are to spinless to use common sense and seem to give in to anybody who lobbies against fire arms. Mel - Original Message - From: Larry Johnson johns...@uvu.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Not for the queasy! I was thinking more on the lines of Canada is for those who have given their gun rights away Sounds tough and strong to me... Larry J Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca 11/22/2010 1:45 PM Yes Larry, Canada is for the tough strong! Cheers Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] bears and guns
Every so often a thread goes about inquiring the type of protection the vfb list uses in bear country. Dono likes to carry a small cannon. Myself, I always bring a friend who cannot run as fast as I can. I looked up a few stats just for curiousities sake to try and put the risk into perspective. From 1900 to 1985 there were 20 recorded deaths by bears in Alaska. From 1975 to 1985 there were 19 recorded deaths caused by dogs. From 1991 to 2000, 889 people drowned while fishing in Canada. How many wear a PFD while angling? In 1998 in the United States 1501 deaths were caused by the accidental discharge of a fire arm. Probably more likely to shoot yourself or another angler than a bear According to the US weather network 73 Americans are killed by lightning each year. Graphite conducts electricity. Seems to me the least of our worries while fishing should be bears. Regards Mel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Fly Reels
Mike If I know Neville he has all of those reels. Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Michael Bliss To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly Reels Wow Neville you are good. I do not have one of those reels but I had a lionel train. Mike On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: There's more thatn one manufacturer: 1)Bache Brown Mastereel or Airex by the same company that made Lionel Model Trains, and 2) A. ABBEY IMBRIE. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LESTER BELL Sent: October 29, 2010 2:19 PM To: vfb Subject: [VFB] Fly Reels Does anyone recall the name of the reels made in an aircraft factory on Long Island, NY in the 70's? I have one of the big ones and am curious. Regards, Skip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Conversion US measurements to metric etc.
one inch equals 2.54 centimeters mel - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:57 AM Subject: [VFB] Conversion US measurements to metric etc. Hi gang, I have some things to double check: If someone writes 2', this is 2 feet 3 are 3 inches ok? 12 are 12 inches, but why is this not 1', 1 foot? What is the relationship between foot and inches? Everything in US units... Rene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Stonefly pattern
Nev How about the Anderson Stone nymph. Easy to tie, would look real nice with a rope dubbed body. Mel - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:02 AM Subject: [VFB] Stonefly pattern Fellow VFB'ers: I have to tie some stoneflies for a friend and I am looking for a nymph pattern for the large golden stonefly that is not too time consuming to tie. It should have a light yellow underbody. Does anyone have any suggestions. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Flies vs lures
I guess the main consideration is are we using an artificial fly or a fly casting lure? - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Flies vs lures Mel, So why do you say that? Is it Wacki-Pedia this time? Please expound. Curious minds want to know. How does one go about classifying qualifying fly-fishing and all of the cross-over styles? I know some game fish guys, and they say that fly-fishing only waters is a 'can of worms' and is open to interpretation and cross-over style arguments. Guys fish with a spinning outfit, a bubble, and an adams fly. Fly-fishing? ( No) Guys fly-rod fish with a weighted Mr. Twister plastic grub with a hackle wound around the grub body part. Lure-fishing? (Yes) Guy in Yellowstone 'flyfishing only' water uses 'foam fly' impregnated with velveta cheese. Illegal bait-fishing? (Yes) I can fish my hair mice with a spinning outfit or a fly rod. If I'm in Yellowstone on 'flyfishing only' water, I better be using a fly rod. 'Can of Worms?' You bet. Game Fish enforcement quandry. You bet. Would be interested in your views for a 'writing the fishing rules' perspective. DonO - Original Message - From: mel hocken To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Flies vs lures Who ever wrote this doesn't know their head from a hole in the ground Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Country Fly Fishers Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:56 AM Subject: [VFB] Flies vs lures Over the years we've had several discussions on what makes a fly a fly and a lure a lure. It's pretty well summed up below in a piece from Wikipedia. If it takes a fly rod and fly line to cast it, it's a fly. If it takes the weight of the lure to cast it, its a lure. Therefore fly rods cast flies and spinning / casting rods cast lures. In fly fishing, fish are caught by using artificial flies that are cast with a fly rod and a fly line. The fly line (today, almost always coated with plastic) is heavy enough in order to send the fly to the target. This is one of the main differences between spinning and bait rods, which use the weight of the lure to cast lures, and a weight on the line to cast bait, etc Artificial flies can vary dramatically in all morphological characteristics (size, weight, colour, etc.). Artificial flies are created by tying hair, fur, feathers, or other materials, both natural and synthetic, onto a hook with thread. The first flies were tied with natural materials, but synthetic materials are now very popular and prevalent. The flies are tied in sizes, colours and patterns to match local terrestrial and aquatic insects, baitfish, or other prey attractive to the target fish species. Casting - Flies vs Lures Unlike other casting methods, fly fishing can be thought of as a method of casting line rather than lure. Non-flyfishing methods rely on a lure's weight to pull line from the reel during the forward motion of a cast. By design, a fly is too light to be cast, and thus simply follows the unfurling of a properly cast fly line, which is heavier and tapered and therefore more castable than lines used in other types of fishing. to read the entire Wikipedia piece, click on the link below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_fishing º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group
Re: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads)
Tom Shooting heads are used to cast long distance with minimal false casting. Here in the Pacific North West we use them for steelhead and salmon fishing although a lot of anglers are going to double handed rods these days. The big advantage is the distance you can cast. The big disadvantage is lack of line control on moving water. Over the years many fishermen have experimented with various lengths and densities of shooting heads; myself included. We even used chunks of lead core trolling line to make shooting heads. Using this stuff really taught you how to chuck and duck. Many of the commercially available steelhead lines of today are patterned after these experiments. Some of us became quite skilled at splicing fly lines. There used to be a special line splicing kit sold commercially in fly shops. I still have mine stored away some where. You can by shooting heads at most fly shops. They mostly come in 30 ft lengths. I used to customize my heads so they were 10, 15 and 20 foot lengths. I would splice a loop in one end and attach them to a weight forward floating line. The weight forward portion of the floater was also cut back about so it was around 15 to 20 feet long. then I spliced a loop in it so I could do a loop to loop connection and quickly change heads to meet the varying water conditions. Cutting back the floater helped eliminate the problem of hinging in the fly line. Originally I used a commercially available floating running line but it was difficult to mend any line with this stuff so I started using the weight forward floaters. If you want to see how well shooting heads work for distance casting go watch someone like Steve Rajeff. He set a single handed rod world record of 243 feet last year. Hope this answers some of your questions. Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: [VFB] Not a Dumb Question #1 (Shooting Heads) OK, Jimmy has challenged us to admit that there is stuff that we don't know and ask about it, so here I go: I have never fished with a shooting head, although I have read about them. Do we have any shooting head experts out there who use them regularly? How do you cast and load them? What are the main advantages/disadvantages? Where do you get them, and are some brands better than others? Are they primarily made to use as a sinking line, or can they be used dry as well? Can you switch heads for different purposes? How far should a good caster be able to cast one? Thanks in advance, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Polar Bear
Finding some rare tying material gets a fly tyer all excited. I have read most of the posts regarding the polar bear. Many are interested in purchasing some of it. I am not trying to insinuate that Harmon did not win the tying material lottery but I have not seen any posts asking about the condition of the hair. There used to be a furrier in Vancouver and I purchased a lot of polar bear from them over the years and one thing you must look for are split ends on the hair. Secondly if the hide is quite old the hair may be very brittle unless it was well cared for . Finding a polar bear hide is not common but the quality of the hair may not make it suitable for resale. Just food for thought Mel - Original Message - From: Harmen Boshuis To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Polar Bear I should have said selling (except to US) as I am aware of the regulations. Harmen -- No infection found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System Shield® http://www.iolo.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Gary Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition. I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society? Regards Mel - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I don't know if Jimmy D. got an answer to his questions about first editions from one of the other sites he is on. First let me start by saying I have been a book collector of fly fishing books for close to 30 years and have acquired over 1300 different titles. which are insured for $35,000. first jimmy's books then some pointers of collecting. Just Fishing 1st edition is 1932 by Penn Publishing. Knopf bought the rights to the book and list it as their first edition. the true first ed is 1932 Trout Magic 1st ed 1974 if in very good condition with dust jacket without any major tears. $40-$50 Fishless Days Angling Nights 1971 again the DJ is always important. $40-$50 Fly rod Trouting $20-$30 Art Flicks master Fly-tying guide HB with DJ $50-$60 Soft cover books very very rarely go up in value. Dust jackets are an important part of the book, sometimes giving clues as to which printing. Before the numbering system that you now find, it may be the only clue as to a first or second printing. Exlib books have very little value. Even limited editions lose value because of the stamps and gluing of covers adding the decimal system numbers to the spine etc. Signed books have more value than none signed and inscribed to someone even more. Age has little to do with value. I have books form the late 1800s that can be gotten today for $20.00. My book with the highest value was published in1992 it is one of 150 copies. Buying books as an investment is a very bad idea. Buy the writers you like to read and collect their works. Gary S fight crime...shoot back - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I have a first edition (with full number line) 1987 edition of Fly-Tying Methods by Darrel Martin that somebody can steal from me for only $25 shipping INCLUDED... You can check the price range of this book on any site on the net. It's in Like New condition with no writing, missing, loose, or torn pages. hard cover with the binding tight and intact etc... Email me OFFlist at chuckalexcan...@hughes.net Chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Country Fly Fishers Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I've never given any thought to collecting First Editions of Fly Fishing books. but after reading Jerry's post, I decided to go over my books this afternoon. I was surprised to find that I have 17 first editions, all from distinguished fly fishing authors/fishermen.I still have 50 or so books to check, but this'll do for now. While I'm not interested in selling any of them at the present, I'd like to have a 'ball park figure of what you think they might be worth. Would I be able to use an informal $ appraisal for insurance purposes? I have my guns and Classic Golf Clubs insured, so why not my books. You can do this on List for I'm sure there are others who would like to know also. Thanks, JIMMY D My First Editions Trout Madness - Robert Traver, 1992, Northmont Publishing Fishing W/ Ray Bergman 1970, Alfred Knopf Fly Rod Trouting - Ed Shenk, 1989 Stackpole Books Flick's New Streamside guide, 1969 Crown Publishing Art Flick's Master Fly Tying Guide, 1972 Crown Publishing Fishless Days, Angling Nights - Alfred Miller, (Sparse Grey Hackle) Crown 1971 Royal Coachman - Paul Schullery, 1999 Prospecting for Trout - Tim Rosenbauer 1993 Trout Magic- Robert Traver, 1974 Crown Trout Hunting - Frank Woolner 1977 Winchester Press Misadventures of a Fisherman - Jack hemingway, 1986 Taylor Publishing ( autographed copy) Tying Dry Flies - Lefty kreh, 1998 Crown Publishing Tricks that Take Fish - Howard Blaisdell
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Gary The fellows you mention are some of my favorites. I'm saddened to hear about Tapply he was a real down to earth writer. M.R. Montgomery is another writer I enjoy very much. Mel - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew from a book. Some of my favorite living writers are Nick Lyons, James Babb, Jerry Dennis, John Gierach and William Tapply whom just passed on not long ago. GaryS fight crime...shoot back -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] blending dubbing
DonO I used to blend dubbing in a friut jar. Along with the water and dubbing to be blended I used to add a pinch of fabric softener. This would allow the fibers of the dubbing to slid a bit more freely allowing the dubbing to blend thoroughly. Just close the lid and shack the heck out of it. Rinse well and let dry. Happy New Year Mel - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [VFB] blending dubbing I just tried something that worked well. Has anyone else done this? Beats getting dubbing in my espresso via my coffee grinder. I found one hit on the internnet so it is not novel, but I also don't think it is as common as the coffee grinder method. I needed to blend some rabbit-dubbing with some ice-dub, flash dub, quick descent. I needed a good blend and no lumps in the blend. So I filled up a tupperware dish about the size of a coffee-cup with hot tap-water. I added the rabbit dubbing and then chopped up the other 3 dubbings over the container. I stirred until everything broke up and was a well blended soup, than I drained almost all of the water out, leaving the dubbing. I stirred it one more time to make sure the quick-descent was mixed in, then I poured it all out through a paper towel to strain it and then used the paper towel to soak up all of the extra water. The result was a damp glob of well-blended hilited part-natural dubbing. Working with it damp gave me a very tight well-defined segment. But I'm letting the rest dry so I can fluff it a bit and tie some fuzzy hares ears that have cool colors mixed in with the rabbit. These colors will accentuate the segments more and give the fly some flash in place of the gold rib, which always get bitten loose. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] re: help with spider type flies
Joyce In BC we tye a spider type fly for steelhead. One thing I use for hackle is water fowl flank. The trick is to dip the feathers in house hold bleach to burn off some the fibre that causes the feather to marry. This allows the hackle to flow evenly around the body and provides a somewhat transclucent veil over the fly. The other tip is to dye your material after the bleaching process. Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: [VFB] re: help with spider type flies I've been requested to tie some Spider flies..I need to know where the body starts..should it be over the barb or the point. If you tie these flies, or know how it should be done, kindly inform. Inquiring minds want to know and tie them correctly. Any tying hints are also welcome. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed- big fish journal- light reading
. (My exercise- hedge-clipping and pruning with a 20# weight attached to the pruners halfway out, hanging from a rope.) REELS: Direct drive or indirect drive. I have an direct drive Able 14 wt and an indirect drive Billy Pate 12wt. Neither is best- each has it's advantage. The direct drive has better fish control, and the indirect drive won't bust up your knuckles. Take your pick. I like my Billy Pate because the drag is on the same side as the handle and I can just play the fish with the drag. With the Able, I can palm the reel on a low drag setting for some extra drag control, then tighten up when I can pump him in. With the Able I can hang on to the last second to try to break that next run. But the Able will then bust up my knuckles before I can get them out of the way with all that pressure on the reel. Landing the big fish. When he is ready to give a big heave-ho to get him in, gaffed, or tailed, back off on the drag and grab the flyline with your hand and a loop over one finger- quick release. That way, if he breaks free, he won't break your rod with the close angles and quarters, or snap the tippet. He'll just run out a little, and then start the landing all over. Man, I miss the salt! Gotta get back out there. DonO - Original Message - From: mel hocken To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Fellow Anglers Do what feels the best for you. Reel left, reel right, doesn't make any difference. If you have to think about how to reel when you have a fish on you are missing the reasons for angling. Just go and enjoy the great outdoors; the land, trees, air , sky, water and the fish. Then share your experiences with your angling fellowship. Some baseball players bat left some bat right; if you are hitting the ball the only good advise you get is what time the game starts. The trouble with fly anglers is they try to make everything to damned complicated. Regards Mel Hocken - Original Message - From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Been a while since I was called a “youngster”J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Eckert Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:45 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I do not think we should make a rule who has to reel left or right – we older (experienced?) reel with our dominant hand and the youngsters do it (logical) the logic way … Thomas alaska info Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 -- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von George E Vincent Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2009 18:22 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent -- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
Fellow Anglers Do what feels the best for you. Reel left, reel right, doesn't make any difference. If you have to think about how to reel when you have a fish on you are missing the reasons for angling. Just go and enjoy the great outdoors; the land, trees, air , sky, water and the fish. Then share your experiences with your angling fellowship. Some baseball players bat left some bat right; if you are hitting the ball the only good advise you get is what time the game starts. The trouble with fly anglers is they try to make everything to damned complicated. Regards Mel Hocken - Original Message - From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Been a while since I was called a “youngster”J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Eckert Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:45 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: AW: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I do not think we should make a rule who has to reel left or right – we older (experienced?) reel with our dominant hand and the youngsters do it (logical) the logic way … Thomas alaska info Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 -- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von George E Vincent Gesendet: Freitag, 20. November 2009 18:22 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed Jimmy, I know we have had this discussion on this list before. I do it the same as you, that is cast with my right arm and switch to my left when I catch a fish to reel it in. This is the way that I was taught and the way that fly rods and reels were set up to be used by right-handed people at least back in the 50s when I learned to fly fish. BTW this is also the way that Lefty Kreh says that it should be done, because you are using your dominant hand to do the work. I don't know when they started teaching right-handed people to cast with the right and reel with the left, but as far as I am concerned they are wrong. George Vincent -- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:09 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] Reeling left-handed I'm right-handed and I've always reeled right handed after changing the rod from right hand to left I know that in the time it takes to change the rod from right hand to left hand has cost me a fish or two, but try as I may, I just can't get the hang of reeling left-handed. I've had this trouble with my bait casting reel but it doesn't seem to affect how quick I strike at a bass. I've sat at my tying bench with a reel attached to a reel seat held the handle in my right hand and reeled left-handed until I'm blue in the face. After about 5 minutes, reeling left-handed seems natural, BUT . . . . when I get on the stream and a fish takes, I fall back into the switching rod from right to left hand and then reeling with my right hand. I'll try doubly hard to reel left-handed on the next fish, but even if I don't make the switch, my reeling is an uncoordinated jerky motion. Maybe I've just got a mental block. Any suggestions will be appreciated. JIMMY D BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Deer Hair Hackle
Rene Check George Grants bookm on woven hair hackles Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: [VFB] Deer Hair Hackle Gang, Is anybody using dear hair in a split thread for hackling? Any tips? I'm playing around for Iain swap with this - he asks for flies with deer hair G, and my hackle aren't as dense as they should be. Hints? Rene BTW: I looked in the ff bible, but this book has no infos on it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Artistic Fly Swap Clarification
Interesting posts. If you think your flies are artistic take them to an art dealer or art gallery and see how the population views your work.I believe there is a fine line between art and top quality craftmanship. Regards Mel - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:05 AM Subject: [VFB] Artistic Fly Swap Clarification Confused... For the list... followed by an angry man-to-man message to Jimmy. Why do you want the list to know that you're coming down on him... support? /Nick -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of jim phillips Sent: 07 June 2009 05:37 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: FW: [VFB] Re: Artistic Fly Swap Clarification For Mark From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: Artistic Fly Swap Clarification Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:08:40 -0600 for the list... Jimmy, NEVER, EVER speak for me..you have no idea what your doing. And obviously you do not keep track of current emails. I have recently told Don that i absolutely DO consider his work ART. Guess you missed that. You obviously also missed where i have VERY recently clarified Jim Phillips mistakes in my original clarification, (he had inserted some words of his own, including that bit bout using exotic materials, fancy beads, and silk thread.HIS words, NOT mine), so keep up to date if your gonna challange, or cause controversey. Bottom line, ART is something you Know when you see it. Just ask Stevie Wonder. mark. Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:10:32 -0500 From: ray...@earthlink.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Artistic Fly Swap Clarification Who's to say what's art/artistic and what's not. Even though Mark doesn't feel that way, Dono's monster/Super sized flies are definitely ART in my book. I don't feel that using exotic materials, fancy beads and silk thread make a fly a work of art. What is art ? what qualifies as art. To muddy the ART water somewhat, I offer the following that I gleaned from Google. The definition of art is controversial in contemporary philosophy. Whether art can be defined has also been a matter of controversy. The philosophical usefulness of a definition of art has also been debated. Contemporary definitions are of two main sorts. One distinctively modern, conventionalist, sort of definition focuses on art's institutional features, emphasizing the way art changes over time, modern works that appear to break radically with all traditional art, and the relational properties of artworks that depend on works' relations to art history, art genres, etc. The less conventionalist sort of contemporary definition makes use of a broader, more traditional concept of aesthetic properties that includes more than art-relational ones, and focuses on art's pan-cultural and trans-historical characteristics. From the Standard Encyclopedia of Philosophy. “It is not at all clear that these words – ‘What is art?’ – express anything like a single question, to which competing answers are given, or whether philosophers proposing answers are even engaged in the same debate…. The sheer variety of proposed definitions should give us pause. One cannot help wondering whether there is any sense in which they are attempts to … clarify the same cultural practices, or address the same issue.” From the Standard Encyclopedia of Philosophy. In other words, what I classify as art, when compared to what you classify as art can be totally different, while both can still be classified as ART ! We had a thread about this some years back with several VFB members joining the discussion. Is fly tying an art or simply a craft. Below are some of the comments. Re: [VFB] new super realistic fly 2002/04/07 I would urge all fly tyers to take a look at what can be achieved. Vlad has demonstrated that fly tying (as shown on his mosquito web page) can transcend craft and achieve the status of fine art. Thank you Vlad for sharing your art with us. Ed At 01:50 PM 4/6/02, you wrote: Hi -- Ed Engelman/Sue Atkinson RE: [VFB] new super realistic fly 2002/04/07 Dear Listers I want to say thanks for your kind words and interest to this my fly. Super realistic flies have no the practical purpose like almost all kinds of fine art, they only can give few minutes of pleasure looking at them (or many week while tying them) and I very proud that you like -- Vlad Markov Have A Good Day. JIMMY D Jim Phillips wrote: --
[VFB] Re: A Fly Design Question
Wes try your standard paint brush fiber. Just hold them against a sanding disk to sand a taper in the end. You can do a small brush all at once then pick the fibers free as you need them Mel - Original Message - From: Wes Wada wada@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:32 PM Subject: [VFB] A Fly Design Question Hi VFB, It's spring here (finally). This winter seemed r-e-a-l-l-y long. I have a fly design question / challenge / problem. I have been using microfibetts to make antennae for terrestrials. But one fiber is really too thin. If I glue three together, I get a good diameter, but it's a lot of trouble. The taper to the end of the fiber is important. Standard paint brush fiber width is good, but normal bristles on those brushes don't taper. Artist's paintbrushes would work, if I could find ones with bristles at least 1-1/2 long. And boy would that brush be expensive. Can anyone think of a durable product I can use? I could use something like bear hair, but a synthetic in clear or white would be preferable. Any ideas of where to look? Thanks, Wes Wada Bend, Oregon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Wet Fly Pattern Suggestions
Try a wing of grey mallard, a tail and hackle of white saddle fibers,a tag of blue floss and claret dubbed body Mel - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:54 PM Subject: [VFB] Wet Fly Pattern Suggestions Here are the rules, I 'm looking for some suggestions for a wet fly pattern, no larger than a size 8 and colors must be Royal Blue, claret/maroon, white and gray. I've come up with a collared wet; collar being white and gray hackle, with a claret seal dubbed body and a royal blue parrot quill tail, any better suggestions? -- Peggy Brenner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Feather I.D. Request
Wes Not exactly sure of the shape but the white feather from the neck of a ringneck pheasant may be what you are looking for. Mel - Original Message - From: Wes Wada To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: [VFB] Feather I.D. Request Hi VFB, Feather i.d. request for the wizards out there. I am in need of a relatively durable feather, at least a durable stem. The shape needs to be like a Corn Nut, and not longer than 1/2 from base to tip, smaller is also good. Does anyone know what feather, from what cape, would be close to that description? Color is secondary. If it is necessary to simply trim a feather to get this shape, some suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Feather I.D. Request
Wes It is the white feather which forms the ring on the neck of the pheasant. I have not seen these feathers sold in packages you may have to get a whole skin. Mel - Original Message - From: Wes Wada To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Feather I.D. Request Sure is funny all the pictures you can get on the web. Googled ringneck pheasant feather and got a bunch. I see what you mean about the white neck feathers. I am really not familiar with that feather. I tend to buy packages of pheasant feathers, particularly dyed. Is that feather all white? Wes On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Wes Wada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the feather with a white band on the end, right? Am away from the flytying room, so cannot check. Pheasant feathers are really durable. Definitely a prime candidate, Mel. Thanks. Wes On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:00 PM, mel hocken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wes Not exactly sure of the shape but the white feather from the neck of a ringneck pheasant may be what you are looking for. Mel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
