[videoblogging] Re: Ad Placement

2007-08-23 Thread Steve Watkins
Well I think I read that blip now offer midroll overlay adverts, but I
havent seen it discussed here much.

Meanwhile a silly argument has broken out amoung some companies about
who was first with this concept, with videoegg even having a patent
(or patent pending) on such things:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/23/ok-ok-all-of-you-even-youtube-invented-video-overlay-ads-first/

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 speaking of the war film a plug for something we built for
 lionsgate the war remixer http://lionsgate.shuffl.es/war/,
found on
 the war site http://www.warthefilm.com/ and elsewhere :)
 yeah so i LIKE the ad, ha!
 
 i think in general, if ads are treated as if they are truly
appreciated and
 respected by the content producers and one form of this is being
able to
 intentionally introduce an ad during video production (which also
lets you
 do related ad placement elsewhere on the page etc)... then the effect is
 warmer for the audience.
 the thing about ads and the negative tone they seem to mostly
carry is
 that they are cold, blunt, loud, obnoxious, desperate.  it's not
necessarily
 that the content that an ad carries is bad, its the delivery.  and that
 delivery, i think, reflects bad on the brands.  irony?  countless
brands now
 have a deep seeded negative tone to me thanks to online ad delivery.
 if the
 entire process can be treated with higher regard to the brand effect and
 potential impact on the target audiences if it can be a more
 professional process even... then i think everyone wins. 
sophistication is
 now key.
 
 sull
 
 On 8/21/07, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
There's an interesting discussion going on @ mix.jetsetshow.com
  (http://tinyurl.com/33pbyb) about advertisements in video blogs.
 
  Basically, apparently, there's something called first position, as
  well as a few other positions where an ad might be placed in a video.
  In this case, the video was about 5 minutes long, and 15 seconds
  after the video started, there was a 15-second movie trailer which was
  played as a commercial spot. The viewers are told about it, and the
  trailer is actually introduced. Returning to the 'regularly scheduled
  programming', the trailer was treated as part of the show as opposed
  to an interruption of the show. A contest, which seems to be based on
  the sponsor's movie trailer was announced immediately following the
  trailer.
 
  Now, being a bunch of 'armchair quarterbacks' and 'back seat drivers',
  since just about none of us have advertising on our video blogs at all
  (not counting basic options that just about any hosting service will
  offer for revenue-sharing), I'd like to know if anyone has opinions on
  ad placement... assuming you would want ads in your videos at all.
 
  My take on the situation is that I'm actually a fan of 5-second
  advertisements in the beginning of a show, and even up to 15-second
  advertisements from the 50% mark to maybe the 75% mark. I don't think
  it would make sense to have a commercial at the very end, but before
  the credits... as opposed to post-roll ads which occur after
  EVERYTHING'S over, talking the chance that as soon as the viewer sees
  the credits, they're going to bail out and the commercial won't get
  watched.
 
  I don't know anything about first position or anything like that,
  but I would assume that the farther towards the front a video is
  placed, the more a sponsor would be willing to pay for it, becasue
  it's more likely that the ad's going to be seen.
 
  Like I said, this discussion's already going on @
  http://tinyurl.com/33pbyb , so I'm not trying to dilute that, but I'd
  like to see if anyone that isn't already a member of
  mix.jetsetshow.com has any thoughts about this.
 
  --
  billcammack
  http://realfans.tv
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Ad Placement

2007-08-23 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
A patent on that?!... you've got to be kidding.

On 8/23/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I think I read that blip now offer midroll overlay adverts, but I
  havent seen it discussed here much.

  Meanwhile a silly argument has broken out amoung some companies about
  who was first with this concept, with videoegg even having a patent
  (or patent pending) on such things:

  
 http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/23/ok-ok-all-of-you-even-youtube-invented-video-overlay-ads-first/

  Cheers

  Steve Elbows



-- 
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[videoblogging] Re: Ad Placement

2007-08-23 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd
 Meanwhile a silly argument
Na, not a argument it is:
Pigs at the trough.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I think I read that blip now offer midroll overlay adverts, but I
 havent seen it discussed here much.
 
 Meanwhile a silly argument has broken out amoung some companies about
 who was first with this concept, with videoegg even having a patent
 (or patent pending) on such things:
 

http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/23/ok-ok-all-of-you-even-youtube-invented-video-overlay-ads-first/
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull sulleleven@ wrote:
 
  speaking of the war film a plug for something we built for
  lionsgate the war remixer http://lionsgate.shuffl.es/war/,
 found on
  the war site http://www.warthefilm.com/ and elsewhere :)
  yeah so i LIKE the ad, ha!
  
  i think in general, if ads are treated as if they are truly
 appreciated and
  respected by the content producers and one form of this is being
 able to
  intentionally introduce an ad during video production (which also
 lets you
  do related ad placement elsewhere on the page etc)... then the
effect is
  warmer for the audience.
  the thing about ads and the negative tone they seem to mostly
 carry is
  that they are cold, blunt, loud, obnoxious, desperate.  it's not
 necessarily
  that the content that an ad carries is bad, its the delivery.  and
that
  delivery, i think, reflects bad on the brands.  irony?  countless
 brands now
  have a deep seeded negative tone to me thanks to online ad delivery.
  if the
  entire process can be treated with higher regard to the brand
effect and
  potential impact on the target audiences if it can be a more
  professional process even... then i think everyone wins. 
 sophistication is
  now key.
  
  sull
  
  On 8/21/07, Bill Cammack BillCammack@ wrote:
  
 There's an interesting discussion going on @ mix.jetsetshow.com
   (http://tinyurl.com/33pbyb) about advertisements in video blogs.
  
   Basically, apparently, there's something called first position, as
   well as a few other positions where an ad might be placed in a
video.
   In this case, the video was about 5 minutes long, and 15 seconds
   after the video started, there was a 15-second movie trailer
which was
   played as a commercial spot. The viewers are told about it, and the
   trailer is actually introduced. Returning to the 'regularly
scheduled
   programming', the trailer was treated as part of the show as opposed
   to an interruption of the show. A contest, which seems to be
based on
   the sponsor's movie trailer was announced immediately following the
   trailer.
  
   Now, being a bunch of 'armchair quarterbacks' and 'back seat
drivers',
   since just about none of us have advertising on our video blogs
at all
   (not counting basic options that just about any hosting service will
   offer for revenue-sharing), I'd like to know if anyone has
opinions on
   ad placement... assuming you would want ads in your videos at all.
  
   My take on the situation is that I'm actually a fan of 5-second
   advertisements in the beginning of a show, and even up to 15-second
   advertisements from the 50% mark to maybe the 75% mark. I don't
think
   it would make sense to have a commercial at the very end, but before
   the credits... as opposed to post-roll ads which occur after
   EVERYTHING'S over, talking the chance that as soon as the viewer
sees
   the credits, they're going to bail out and the commercial won't get
   watched.
  
   I don't know anything about first position or anything like that,
   but I would assume that the farther towards the front a video is
   placed, the more a sponsor would be willing to pay for it, becasue
   it's more likely that the ad's going to be seen.
  
   Like I said, this discussion's already going on @
   http://tinyurl.com/33pbyb , so I'm not trying to dilute that,
but I'd
   like to see if anyone that isn't already a member of
   mix.jetsetshow.com has any thoughts about this.
  
   --
   billcammack
   http://realfans.tv
  

  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] On the off chance someone has this USB Mic...

2007-08-23 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
I haven't used that one, but I do have a Blue Snowball USB mic and I 
love it.  Cheap, good, and rugged.

--
Rhett.
http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime

Jarod Dixon wrote:
 Looking to see if anyone has used the R0de podcaster usb Mic for
 voice overs and whatnot. Thinking of picking one up - I know the
 company is reputable but don't know anyone that's actually used the
 product.

 Thanks in advance!

 Jarod.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.8bit-me.com




  
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[videoblogging] Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake

2007-08-23 Thread greentvgirl
My name is Lori Lake, I am the creator of Green TV and request the
help of this very creative group of minds. I am debt-free and located
on a small waterfront estate at the head of the Chesapeake Bay. I
created Green TV over years ago because people around me kept getting
sick and dying from pollution. I am not an activist or extremist, I am
a business woman and considered a green expert by many because I
(with my own hands and mind) designed, built and personally financed
my own green facility on a killer waterfront that includes two
furnished guest suites.

I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and
the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since
going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people
from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green
photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local
politicians to government leaders, educators to media)

After much thought, I decided to forgo my original Green TV platform
and move towards allowing others to create their own Green TV
stations like GreenTV.com/India, GreenTV.com NewYork and so on.

The site I like for my Green TV stations to be modeled after is 
http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/  yet it does not accept videos yet,
however, it would provide a basic idea of what people coming to Green
TV want to report on; Green building projects, green people in their
community, green business/government/educator leaders again, all on a
local to them basis. Imagine thousands worldwide contributing to a
better planet while riding on the coat tails of Al Gore's 5-year green
campaign!

Thank you and I look forward to a mutual beneficial business
relationship with one or members of the incredibly helpful videoblogging.

Lori Lake

Direct contact:
Lori Lake http://www.greentv.com/contact.htm

Web site: Green TV.com



Re: [videoblogging] Re:online editing systems query

2007-08-23 Thread Kath O'Donnell
thanks Nerissa.

I found a few more since the orig email, in case they're useful for you
also:

http://www.jaycut.com/
a review here :
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/jaycut_online_video_editor.php
 the same guy reviewed a few online video apps :
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/video_editing_20_8_ways_to_remix_videos.phpwhere
he lists a few (the ones u've listed plus more)

motionbox (http://www.motionbox.com/)
http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/02/motionbox-best-online-video-sharing-so-far/has
a review with links to some others.

(from comments  googl  reviews)
Tubeloader
videoegg (http://www.videoegg.com/)
Bubbleply
grouper (www.grouper.com)


http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2124596,00.asp has a comparison
chart for Cuts, Eyespot, JumpCut, Motionbox, One True Media. page back for
fuller articles on each.

O'Reilly's site has a notice about Adobe's Photobucket coming soon (seems to
be for pro users)
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/02/photobucket_to.html


cheers

Kath






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Re: [videoblogging] Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake

2007-08-23 Thread J. Rhett Aultman
Hi!  I can't help you with website design, as I'm up to my elbows in my
own work, but I have been trying hard to foster better community and
solidarity among green video bloggers.  I'd like to link you from my
project, Greentime (http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime).  Perhaps if
you like the work we do, you'd do the same?  Cross-pollination is always a
good thing. :)

--
Rhett.
http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime

 My name is Lori Lake, I am the creator of Green TV and request the
 help of this very creative group of minds. I am debt-free and located
 on a small waterfront estate at the head of the Chesapeake Bay. I
 created Green TV over years ago because people around me kept getting
 sick and dying from pollution. I am not an activist or extremist, I am
 a business woman and considered a green expert by many because I
 (with my own hands and mind) designed, built and personally financed
 my own green facility on a killer waterfront that includes two
 furnished guest suites.

 I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and
 the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since
 going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people
 from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green
 photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local
 politicians to government leaders, educators to media)

 After much thought, I decided to forgo my original Green TV platform
 and move towards allowing others to create their own Green TV
 stations like GreenTV.com/India, GreenTV.com NewYork and so on.

 The site I like for my Green TV stations to be modeled after is
 http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/  yet it does not accept videos yet,
 however, it would provide a basic idea of what people coming to Green
 TV want to report on; Green building projects, green people in their
 community, green business/government/educator leaders again, all on a
 local to them basis. Imagine thousands worldwide contributing to a
 better planet while riding on the coat tails of Al Gore's 5-year green
 campaign!

 Thank you and I look forward to a mutual beneficial business
 relationship with one or members of the incredibly helpful videoblogging.

 Lori Lake

 Direct contact:
 Lori Lake http://www.greentv.com/contact.htm

 Web site: Green TV.com




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[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake

2007-08-23 Thread Steve Watkins
Greetings. Here are some purely personal thoughts about green video
and the internet, which may or may not be of any use, dont let me put
you off a worthy mission...

There are quite a number of dedicated people now making green-related
video shows for the web. They are often totally independent on their
own sites, or they are either loosley or strongly affiliated with one
of the new breed of video hosting sites or would-be new media networks.

I havent seen so much of the mass user-generated you-tube like sites
focussed on green stuff, although its quite possile that some exist
and Ive missed them. Certainly there are some social networking sites
that are dedicated to all things green and sustainable, and they are
perhaps more likely to get a critical mass of users to make the thing
work, if many of those users contribute stuff other than video.

For whilst there is no doubt that there has been an explosion in the
number of people posting videos on the web in the last few years, its
still something that can be offputting for a lot of people, for many
reasons, so it can be harder to get the quantity of user-umbitted
content that you might initially think possible when planning a site
like the one you'd like to do.

A lot may depend on how broad a site you are aiming for. There will
probably be no end of green sites in the future, as these issues are
only going to get more pressing as time goes on, so it could be an
idea to specialise somewhat. eg if green buildings are your main
field, maybe focus on that. If you are more into the pragmatic
business side of sustainability than the radical campaign side of
things, it may be wise to make the site stay roughly within the same
boundaries.

'build it and they will come' does not always apply on the net, so it
could be worth takings things a lot further with all the people you
already know,w ho have told you they want a place to post video,
photos etc. Need to see what they've actually got, and whether they
are likely to be repeat contributors or more likely one-offs. For
example I am passionate about green stuff, and specifically saving
energy, but for various reasons Ive only managed to make a few videos
that were not professional enough for my own tastes, and I literally
ran out of things I was able to show-and-tell quite quickly. 

I just wouldnt want you to find yourself stuck in a vacuum, with there
not being enough 'average user' material submitted, and everyone who
has more skill, time etc to put into video, already doing their own shows.

But like I said, dont let me put you off, its just a case of finding
the right formula, and net video in 2007 is a funny thing because
sometimes it feels like there are more video hosting sites than there
are people making their own videos. There is a real interest in green
stuff that will only grow with time, and I certainly want to see
stories from everyone who has been able to put a little green into
their life, however theyve done it. Its just Im not sure how many of
those people are also ready to make the videos themselves, whether the
lack of an appropriate site is whats holding them back, whether there
will always be a need for people doing shows to turn up and document
the story for others, just like a TV show might, how much this stuff
wil be saturated by TV programs doing this sort of thing in the
future, stuff like that.

And then there is the issues of how all the different, independent
people making green shows, could be connected in some way, what
benefits it would have, how strong the connection could be, whether
anybody actually wants that, whether there will be more networks or
other groups trying to do this than there are people making vids.

Oh Im sounding too negative again, sorry. I want this stuff to explode
and the more sites the better, I just not sure how best to do it. 

Cheers

Steve Elbows

My largely inactive except for one week, rather rushed and amateurish
green related blog: carbondown.com
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My name is Lori Lake, I am the creator of Green TV and request the
 help of this very creative group of minds. I am debt-free and located
 on a small waterfront estate at the head of the Chesapeake Bay. I
 created Green TV over years ago because people around me kept getting
 sick and dying from pollution. I am not an activist or extremist, I am
 a business woman and considered a green expert by many because I
 (with my own hands and mind) designed, built and personally financed
 my own green facility on a killer waterfront that includes two
 furnished guest suites.
 
 I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and
 the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since
 going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people
 from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green
 photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local
 politicians to 

Re: [videoblogging] Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake

2007-08-23 Thread Kath O'Donnell
Hi Lori, it might be worth using a Content Management System (CMS) for your
site so it's easy to update and for people to post articles/media/comments.
from the layout / sections on your current site, I think a CMS would be the
way to go.

I use one called drupal (http://www.drupal.org) which is great for community
sites and it's free to use (as in cost). there's a sister project called
CivicSpace also, which is based on drupal but some people find it easier to
setup (~ more of an out-of-the-box solution). (http://civicspacelabs.org)
there are many others available also. eg joomla (http://www.joomla.org/),
plone (http://plone.org/).

a CMS comparison site which may be handy for you if you want to see/compare
the features is at CMS Matrix (http://www.cmsmatrix.org/). I guess you'd
need to make a list of what features you want/need first/as u go. and think
about things such as where you want the media contributions hosted - on your
site or remotely  link them in / bandwidth / traffic considerations.

some community sites use wordpress / blogging systems also and these can
also be effective. the freevlog.org site has details  tutorials on how to
setup a videoblog site so that may be useful for you too.

if you just want to link to youtube/blip.tv videos then you could just add
the code directly to your site, though it's not really interactive so
probably not what you're after. ( I notice you already have this in the
howto video sections)

cheers
Kath




  I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and
  the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since
  going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people
  from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green
  photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local
  politicians to government leaders, educators to media)
 




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[videoblogging] do video blogger care about privacy?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard (Show) Hall
Disclosure: This post is part of my on-going attempt to relate my research,
which is a big part of what I do for a living, with my passion (which is, of
course is vlogging), so, if you answer this post, you will be influencing
on-going discussions about my student's thesis project.

Having said that, we're talking about this broad issue of privacy, and how,
as you know, there are a lot of people who are afraid to put like anything
on the web. And, of course, there are many frightening anecdotes going
around (true and not) about privacy issues and the web.

So, as we're discussing this fundamental issue, relating to the web, I'm
wondering why I've never worried about this. Of course I plaster my own face
all over my videos, and my wife's and even my children and grand children
are in some of my videos, and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get my home
address somewhere in my web sites etc ... so I'm wondering what's odd about
me (with regard to lack of privacy concerns - not all the other odd stuff
about me :)

And I note that the culture on this list seems to be very open - for
example, I often find cell phone numbers on some of the most active list
participants on their sites, or even in email signatures ... as a group, it
seems to me that we are very open in that way. I remember, in one video, Jay
Dedman showing his new apartment, and commenting that the extra room was for
anyone watching who needed an extra room when they were in New York

I don't remember any very lengthy/serious thread in more than two years on
the list where anyone discussed the issue of dangers associated with posting
videos of yourself on the web.

I had never given this much thought in the past, but as I think about it, I
guess, the main reasons *I* don't seem to care about privacy are:

1) Nothing bad has happened to me so far, for posting my stuff all over the
web, with the exception that there have been a few times that it was sort of
professionally awkward, when one of my academic colleagues finds videos of
me, with my fat belly hanging out, jumping into cold water.

... When my 83 year old mother first saw any of my videos, she was concerned
that people at the National Science Foundation, who often fund my research,
would see these videos and quit funding any of my work. My response to her
was that, if they quite giving money for projects that they think are worthy
of funding, because one of the investigators has video of themselves doing
silly things on the web, then I'm really worried about the National Science
Foundation, not me.

2) I feel a strong sense of openness within the vlog group and the web
culture in general, so that we take advantage of all the things this
openness can afford (like me bugging Michael Verdi with a mac question
because I can find his cell phone number on the web), or, more importantly,
I can get to know people by watching their own videos etc ...

... I'm wondering if the nature of video bloggers is that we are at the
farthest open end of this dimension, because we are people who wanted to put
videos of ourselves on the web, and then I wonder is this just a
characteristic of those hams, like me, who do put lots of video of ourselves
on the web, whereas I know a lot of my video blogging friends who actually,
rarely, show themselves on camera ...

... Anyway, I would love to hear any of your thoughts on this topic.

... Richard

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[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake

2007-08-23 Thread greentvgirl
Kath, my head is now spinning which actually is a good thing! Your
reply along with others is incredible! People helping people. What a
concept! Not joking as there are many small thinkers here on the
Chesapeake Bay. 
With much appreciation,

Lori
PS: Do you know anyone that could build a site like the one I
mentioned at http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi Lori, it might be worth using a Content Management System (CMS)
for your
 site so it's easy to update and for people to post
articles/media/comments.
 from the layout / sections on your current site, I think a CMS would
be the
 way to go.
 
 I use one called drupal (http://www.drupal.org) which is great for
community
 sites and it's free to use (as in cost). there's a sister project called
 CivicSpace also, which is based on drupal but some people find it
easier to
 setup (~ more of an out-of-the-box solution).
(http://civicspacelabs.org)
 there are many others available also. eg joomla
(http://www.joomla.org/),
 plone (http://plone.org/).
 
 a CMS comparison site which may be handy for you if you want to
see/compare
 the features is at CMS Matrix (http://www.cmsmatrix.org/). I guess you'd
 need to make a list of what features you want/need first/as u go.
and think
 about things such as where you want the media contributions hosted -
on your
 site or remotely  link them in / bandwidth / traffic considerations.
 
 some community sites use wordpress / blogging systems also and these can
 also be effective. the freevlog.org site has details  tutorials on
how to
 setup a videoblog site so that may be useful for you too.
 
 if you just want to link to youtube/blip.tv videos then you could
just add
 the code directly to your site, though it's not really interactive so
 probably not what you're after. ( I notice you already have this in the
 howto video sections)
 
 cheers
 Kath
 
 
 
 
   I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and
   the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since
   going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people
   from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green
   photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local
   politicians to government leaders, educators to media)
  
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 http://www.aliak.com
 
 
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[videoblogging] YouTube's new features

2007-08-23 Thread WWWhatsup

Since last night there are a couple of new features on YouTube.

1) comments - viewers can thumbs up/down comments, and set a filter to govern 
what they see
2) remixing - uploaders can remix their own videos using an online editing tool
http://www.youtube.com/ytremixer_about

There's a digg thread on the comments system at
http://digg.com/tech_news/YouTube_Implements_New_Comment_System
where I was I amused by one wags suggestion that it was missing 
a middle-finger option.

joly


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Re: [videoblogging] do video blogger care about privacy?

2007-08-23 Thread MMC
Hi Richard,

I currently assist in the production of an online show that just took off in 
the Vlogger community.  (GerryT.com)

Interviewing people and getting them to sign a consent form proposes the exact 
same issues of privacy which often come up with these people not wanting to see 
themselves or have others see them on camera.   Nevertheless, the show has 
attracted a cult audience with people wanting to see more of the director on 
screen.  
It's rather challenging to find a complete stranger to interview every week for 
this show. 

Please view the site and watch some of the episodes, your insights would be 
greatly appreciated.  Pay particular attention to Episodes:   Access Denied; 
Discreet Affair;
Sex, Love and Honesty; Just Got Played; and this week's episode of course.

Thanks for your viewing support!

~MMC

Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Disclosure: This post is part of my on-going attempt to relate my research,
 which is a big part of what I do for a living, with my passion (which is, of
 course is vlogging), so, if you answer this post, you will be influencing
 on-going discussions about my student's thesis project.
 
 Having said that, we're talking about this broad issue of privacy, and how,
 as you know, there are a lot of people who are afraid to put like anything
 on the web. And, of course, there are many frightening anecdotes going
 around (true and not) about privacy issues and the web.
 
 So, as we're discussing this fundamental issue, relating to the web, I'm
 wondering why I've never worried about this. Of course I plaster my own face
 all over my videos, and my wife's and even my children and grand children
 are in some of my videos, and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get my home
 address somewhere in my web sites etc ... so I'm wondering what's odd about
 me (with regard to lack of privacy concerns - not all the other odd stuff
 about me :)
 
 And I note that the culture on this list seems to be very open - for
 example, I often find cell phone numbers on some of the most active list
 participants on their sites, or even in email signatures ... as a group, it
 seems to me that we are very open in that way. I remember, in one video, Jay
 Dedman showing his new apartment, and commenting that the extra room was for
 anyone watching who needed an extra room when they were in New York
 
 I don't remember any very lengthy/serious thread in more than two years on
 the list where anyone discussed the issue of dangers associated with posting
 videos of yourself on the web.
 
 I had never given this much thought in the past, but as I think about it, I
 guess, the main reasons *I* don't seem to care about privacy are:
 
 1) Nothing bad has happened to me so far, for posting my stuff all over the
 web, with the exception that there have been a few times that it was sort of
 professionally awkward, when one of my academic colleagues finds videos of
 me, with my fat belly hanging out, jumping into cold water.
 
 ... When my 83 year old mother first saw any of my videos, she was concerned
 that people at the National Science Foundation, who often fund my research,
 would see these videos and quit funding any of my work. My response to her
 was that, if they quite giving money for projects that they think are worthy
 of funding, because one of the investigators has video of themselves doing
 silly things on the web, then I'm really worried about the National Science
 Foundation, not me.
 
 2) I feel a strong sense of openness within the vlog group and the web
 culture in general, so that we take advantage of all the things this
 openness can afford (like me bugging Michael Verdi with a mac question
 because I can find his cell phone number on the web), or, more importantly,
 I can get to know people by watching their own videos etc ...
 
 ... I'm wondering if the nature of video bloggers is that we are at the
 farthest open end of this dimension, because we are people who wanted to put
 videos of ourselves on the web, and then I wonder is this just a
 characteristic of those hams, like me, who do put lots of video of ourselves
 on the web, whereas I know a lot of my video blogging friends who actually,
 rarely, show themselves on camera ...
 
 ... Anyway, I would love to hear any of your thoughts on this topic.
 
 ... Richard
 
 -- 
 Richard
 http://richardhhall.org
 Shows
 http://richardshow.org
 http://inspiredhealing.tv
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake

2007-08-23 Thread Gena
There are a couple of things I was musing over as I read your post and
the others.

I think that first you have to have content no matter if the others
contribute or not. I don't think you have to abandon your original
ideas because I think that there are a lot of people jumping in on the
green bandwagon as in carpetbaggers selling the buzz of the week. 

I think a lot of good can come from continuing to show your actual
expertise in real people making health environmental changes. I think
it can be profitable if folks know about your skills and knowledge.

Second, I think you have to find out where the green folks,
sustainability people and the environmentally conscious hang their
shingle.  They might not want to produce regularly but they may have a
video or two that they want to share or contribute to GreenTV.

If you make it known to them that this is an option you could be
swimming in content. From BlogHer there are writers who are connected
to the green side of blogging. Stroll through and see who you can hook
up with.

http://blogher.org/blogher-topics/green-eco-conscious

So yeah, for me it is defining the content, finding the folks and then
building the network one person/video at a time. 

I do agree that a management system has to be in place otherwise you'd
never be able to leave the house. You don't want it totally automatic
because there will be video trolls and spammers that will need to be
stopped at the gate.

Oh an that not an activist statement. Yes, you are. Per Webster's

A doctrine or practice that emphasizes direct vigorous action
especially in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial
issue.

If you didn't believe this you couldn't take this next big step. You
might not be like other activists but that is ok. There is enough
work to go around.

Keep the faith,

Gena
http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My name is Lori Lake, I am the creator of Green TV and request the
 help of this very creative group of minds. I am debt-free and located
 on a small waterfront estate at the head of the Chesapeake Bay. I
 created Green TV over years ago because people around me kept getting
 sick and dying from pollution. I am not an activist or extremist, I am
 a business woman and considered a green expert by many because I
 (with my own hands and mind) designed, built and personally financed
 my own green facility on a killer waterfront that includes two
 furnished guest suites.
 
 I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive site and
 the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since
 going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people
 from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their green
 photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local
 politicians to government leaders, educators to media)
 
 After much thought, I decided to forgo my original Green TV platform
 and move towards allowing others to create their own Green TV
 stations like GreenTV.com/India, GreenTV.com NewYork and so on.
 
 The site I like for my Green TV stations to be modeled after is 
 http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/  yet it does not accept videos yet,
 however, it would provide a basic idea of what people coming to Green
 TV want to report on; Green building projects, green people in their
 community, green business/government/educator leaders again, all on a
 local to them basis. Imagine thousands worldwide contributing to a
 better planet while riding on the coat tails of Al Gore's 5-year green
 campaign!
 
 Thank you and I look forward to a mutual beneficial business
 relationship with one or members of the incredibly helpful
videoblogging.
 
 Lori Lake
 
 Direct contact:
 Lori Lake http://www.greentv.com/contact.htm
 
 Web site: Green TV.com





[videoblogging] Re: Please help me with Green TV, Lori Lake

2007-08-23 Thread bordercollieaustralianshepherd

  Hi Lori, it might be worth using a Content Management System (CMS)
 for your
  site so it's easy to update and for people to post
 articles/media/comments.
Gena is right on as always. Joomla was the only one I messed with and
knew where to get more freelance help.

  if you just want to link to youtube/blip.tv videos then you could
 just add
  the code directly to your site, though it's not really interactive so

I just thought of two other video channel options.

http://operator11.com/

and ...

Somewhere in this list's messeges (I think) is the name of another
company (for the life of me I cannot remember the name of this start
up). They are have a video player that allows people to add comments
and links to a timeline bar at the bottom third of the video player
frame. 

What is the name of that start up gang?



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, greentvgirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kath, my head is now spinning which actually is a good thing! Your
 reply along with others is incredible! People helping people. What a
 concept! Not joking as there are many small thinkers here on the
 Chesapeake Bay. 
 With much appreciation,
 
 Lori
 PS: Do you know anyone that could build a site like the one I
 mentioned at http://cu.naturalhomemagazine.com/
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Kath O'Donnell aliak77@
 wrote:
 
  Hi Lori, it might be worth using a Content Management System (CMS)
 for your
  site so it's easy to update and for people to post
 articles/media/comments.
  from the layout / sections on your current site, I think a CMS would
 be the
  way to go.
  
  I use one called drupal (http://www.drupal.org) which is great for
 community
  sites and it's free to use (as in cost). there's a sister project
called
  CivicSpace also, which is based on drupal but some people find it
 easier to
  setup (~ more of an out-of-the-box solution).
 (http://civicspacelabs.org)
  there are many others available also. eg joomla
 (http://www.joomla.org/),
  plone (http://plone.org/).
  
  a CMS comparison site which may be handy for you if you want to
 see/compare
  the features is at CMS Matrix (http://www.cmsmatrix.org/). I guess
you'd
  need to make a list of what features you want/need first/as u go.
 and think
  about things such as where you want the media contributions hosted -
 on your
  site or remotely  link them in / bandwidth / traffic considerations.
  
  some community sites use wordpress / blogging systems also and
these can
  also be effective. the freevlog.org site has details  tutorials on
 how to
  setup a videoblog site so that may be useful for you too.
  
  if you just want to link to youtube/blip.tv videos then you could
 just add
  the code directly to your site, though it's not really interactive so
  probably not what you're after. ( I notice you already have this
in the
  howto video sections)
  
  cheers
  Kath
  
  
  
  
I write to find how Green TV could make a great interactive
site and
the reason is not my existing Green TV web site or content. Since
going live on the internet less than 1-year ago, I have had people
from all over the globe asking how they could contribute their
green
photos and/or videos (ranging from amateurs to architects, local
politicians to government leaders, educators to media)
   
  
  
  
  
  -- 
  http://www.aliak.com
  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: do video blogger care about privacy?

2007-08-23 Thread Heath
That's an interesting question Richard.  One I struggled with to be 
honest.

At first I really didn't want people to know a lot about me.  Part of 
the reason I adopted the persona of The Batman Geek was for that 
reason.  Now to be honest part of the reason for the Batman Geek 
was one, I really do like Batman and two, I was trying to create 
a hook for my batman geek show.  I had this silly notion that I 
could create a show and talk about geeky toy things and become a huge 
star. (no, I do not take drugs, although I can understand why some 
may think I do.)

But a funny thing happened, I really started enjoying the very 
personal nature of videoblogging.  And I started to get to know 
people and I became less worried about people finding out who I 
really am.  Yes there are risks, and to be honest there is still a 
ton people DON'T know about me.  As I am sure is the case with most.  
Maybe not on this list but I venture to guess that outside the list 
it is very true.

What are the risks? employeers seeing me run in the street with 
scissors or talk about my depression and go. No, thanks  Some 
stranger showing up at my house and cleaning me out.  And so on and 
so on.

But the other side is that I get to meet some really cool people and 
make real world connections that I otherwise would never have.  I 
mean if I had met Jay, or Michael or Ryann or a few others on the 
street randomlyI would have been like no way  but through 
vlogging I got to know the people and the people are pretty cool.  
Don't always have to like or agree, but hey I love my wife and we 
fight so

Honestly now I wish I was not the batman geek I wish I was just 
Heath, because to be honest sometime I think people see batman geek 
and go, who the $%* is this guy?  But I can't control that so, I 
just try to be myself and let the chips fall where they may.

So do I care about privacy, sure I do, there are some things I keep 
to myself, like the thing with my family, although I did share a bit 
about my Dad, I took down the post a week later because well.it 
was personal and private and should stay that way for now.  some 
conversations and dialogue are best suited face to face or with close 
friends, not everyone.

But do I care you know I live in Cincinnati, that I like Batman, that 
I love to have conversation, that I believe in God, that I love my 
wife and kids and that I have some of the most amazing friends on the 
planet and that my world has been turned upside down the minute I 
fould freevlog on the web?  Not at all...

Heath
http://batmangeek.com

This post probably was all over and lord knows I am sure I misspled a 
lot of stuff but just speaking from my heart, so..  ;)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard (Show) Hall 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Disclosure: This post is part of my on-going attempt to relate my 
research,
 which is a big part of what I do for a living, with my passion 
(which is, of
 course is vlogging), so, if you answer this post, you will be 
influencing
 on-going discussions about my student's thesis project.
 
 Having said that, we're talking about this broad issue of privacy, 
and how,
 as you know, there are a lot of people who are afraid to put like 
anything
 on the web. And, of course, there are many frightening anecdotes 
going
 around (true and not) about privacy issues and the web.
 
 So, as we're discussing this fundamental issue, relating to the 
web, I'm
 wondering why I've never worried about this. Of course I plaster my 
own face
 all over my videos, and my wife's and even my children and grand 
children
 are in some of my videos, and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to get 
my home
 address somewhere in my web sites etc ... so I'm wondering what's 
odd about
 me (with regard to lack of privacy concerns - not all the other odd 
stuff
 about me :)
 
 And I note that the culture on this list seems to be very open - 
for
 example, I often find cell phone numbers on some of the most active 
list
 participants on their sites, or even in email signatures ... as a 
group, it
 seems to me that we are very open in that way. I remember, in one 
video, Jay
 Dedman showing his new apartment, and commenting that the extra 
room was for
 anyone watching who needed an extra room when they were in New York
 
 I don't remember any very lengthy/serious thread in more than two 
years on
 the list where anyone discussed the issue of dangers associated 
with posting
 videos of yourself on the web.
 
 I had never given this much thought in the past, but as I think 
about it, I
 guess, the main reasons *I* don't seem to care about privacy are:
 
 1) Nothing bad has happened to me so far, for posting my stuff all 
over the
 web, with the exception that there have been a few times that it 
was sort of
 professionally awkward, when one of my academic colleagues finds 
videos of
 me, with my fat belly hanging out, jumping into cold water.
 
 ... When my 83 year old mother first saw any of my 

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